Please make sure you go and tell Marta what an excellent job she made of the closing credits theme tune. Huge nod to the work done by archive.org/ and www.webdesignmuseum.org/, without which videos like this just wouldn't be possible.
Skim-reading, I thought this was a comment from a viewer directing Nostalgia Nerd to go and tell Marta she'd done a good job, and was going to chime in with agreement.
In 1995, a few years prior to the release of the movie, the website was already in development and a server purchased and setup for the website. Back then each website was on a single computer, and the internet being new they put the computer in the backrooms at Tribune media office towers. There it remained powered on for 20 years, people being able to update it but never actually able to locate the machine. So the website stayed online until WB got taken over and new servers put in place. The old website was copied over and the website changed to the new server... but the old server... it's still up and running, in the backrooms. somewhere, no one knows where but its out there... spooky.
There’s a couple of those out there especially on the old servers made with huge 1-3 layer micro boards and thick walled capacitors - just better made stuff ensures it will run FORVER. It’s like the Tandy 1000 TL/2 I still have since I was 9 and it works perfectly and ever had to do a damn thing to repair it - ever
@@leap123_ you would think so but address/IP registers weren’t accurate, have been changed, system changed, IP’s handlers shifted to completely different areas etc. that couldn’t happen now so of course like you said you can just track the IP but back then if one was still running on the same server it could happen
BEWARE: Established Titles is a novelty only! And that's according to their own web site in the FAQs. You are not actually legally granted a title and you do not actually own land. It's called a souvenir plot and the Scottish land registry does not keep records of people who have bought souvenir plots, because it's not yours! Even if you owned the land you still do not get a title as that tradition was overruled with a law back in the 1970's.
They seriously need to fix up the script they give ppl to read. It doesn't communicate this effectively at all. Same picture of the plot of land they give everyone too.
In 1996 I was the primary coder of my university's website. I was a computer lab assistant. My boss started the page and brought me in to continue it. It was truly the wild west of websites. I used Notepad as my primary tool, later moving to an app I've forgotten the name of that was basically Notepad with html tags added as macros. We couldn't afford Hot Dog. Not only did I use tables to organize the site, but I used nested tables! We could do some amazing tricks with that!
@@anon_y_mousse Notepad++ did not exist in the 1990s. However great it is, it wasn't created till well into the 2000s. Still one of the very best coding tools there is, though
Oh 90s webdesign. Full of tables, frames, and tiled backgrounds. I graduated in '95 and started making websites a couple years later, using *shudder* Frontpage for basic layout and then editing the html by hand to tweak it. It was such a fun time.
I've always loved the simplicity of 90s web sites, often out of necessity due to most users being on dial-up. I even thought of "upgrading" my old site from that era at one point in time, but decided to keep the 90s look and ease of navigation.
@Andy Merrett Props to all the late 90s browsers that managed to render HTML written in text editors and lacking at least a few proper element closing tags in the layout table.
@@nickwallette6201 As opposed to the websites now that I write in text editors, but using php to generate that html in multiple files thousands of lines long? I feel like the pure html I learned as a teen was far simpler and cleaner.
Whow! I did the same thing! In 1998, I was a junior in high school and I was teaching myself HTML and Macromedia Flash. I built a website for my entire high school, the first one it ever had. With the help of one of my teachers, I wrote a letter to the school board and asked them to buy us a small server to act as a web server. I set it up in the office of the library. I got Apache running and registered the domain. I built the whole website from scratch in notepad using HTML and Java. I got an A, though. I was also given an award at the end of the year from that teacher that helped me. It was the inaugural "Webmaster Award" and they still give it out every year to a student that does good things with computers. I think they changed the name of it, though. I also got a Bright Futures scholarship because of the recommendation letter that the teacher wrote for me. I have a photo of me that the local newspaper used of me sitting at the server working on the website. That's crazy she only got a B. It was unheard of back then to have a website for a school. She totally got robbed. Watching this video brought back so many memories of working on HTML2. The cgi-bin directory was really confusing to me at first. It took a while to figure out cgi scripts. Frames, tables, and manual formatting was all a pain. You would get the spacing all perfect in IE and then open the site in Netscape and everything would be screwed by tens of pixels and completely ruin it.
I never got a cool job like working for a movie studio, though. I ended up using the scholarship to go to the extremely overpriced and unaccredited ITT Technical Institute. That was a colossal mistake. Also, three weeks after graduating high school, I started at America Online doing tech supoort.
And in 1998, I got a 10 day suspension for installing (hacking lol... all I did was find a way to the command prompt) a bunch of games in a menu system that allowed you to play it directly from the server, or download a copy and play that way. Doom, Duke Nukem, Micro Machines, I think even Dune II (or C&C I can;t remember now). Basically, once word got out, the network slowed to a crawl. I got caught because my log-killing script (it would just brazenly delete them wholesale) had a small typo in it, and as I furiously edited it, then executed it, the network admin and the IT dept head were able to witness what I did. 10 days for " behaviour injurious to the moral tone of the school." My mom was pissed, and also confused. I explained to her what I did, and she got my vacation trimmed to 6 days. Good thing too, I barely passed that semester. She just didn't want me at home that whole time (I ended up just working at my local computer store full time for a week) but in the end, I'm glad she spoke up. Also, my VP had a hate-boner for me. Two other friends got suspended as well, 1 day and 3 days, for being accomplices. I mean, I got a 5 day suspension for "fighting" (some lame ass short kid was hitting my friend's gf for not giving him a smoke, so I punched him in the face real hard - I recall it hurt my hand a good bit) so I'm not sure how putting a bunch of games on a server qualifies for 10 but whatever. And I've been working in IT for 26 years now. :D
@@the_kombinator Wow. You're going to think I'm making this up now. But the only reason that teacher I mentioned took notice of me is because her husband is the one that caught me doing similar stuff to the computers in the computer lab. We had this computer lab elective you could take where they had things like CAD, a full flight sim with a complete HOTAS with pedals, yoke, and everything. They had an injection molding station that used a computer to control it. There was an audio/video workstation where the kids on the school newspaper did the morning video announcements like in the newest Spider Man movies. There were a couple computers set up to learn programming, networking, ect. It was a really complete computer lab and all anyone ever did there was play The Incredible Machine and goof off. The teacher that ran it didn't give a crap about teaching. He was one of the football coaches. I took that elective my sophomore year in 97. I got bored fast because they weren't teaching us anything. I started tinkering with the computers. I kept getting in trouble with the teacher because he'd come around the corner and see me playing Doom or download or snooping through files. Then, I remember sitting in the dean's office talking to him and he was asking me what was on this 3.5" floppy they found in my locker that just had a pentagram drawn in the label. He didn't want to put it in any of the computers because he was afraid it would make them "blow up." I don't know if he thought it would literally blow up or if it was a figure of speech. Anyway, I got a week at DOC and wasn't allowed to use any school computers the rest of that year. The next year, the football coach/teacher that caught me, his wife is the one that ran the library and she kind of took me under her wing. Instead of punishing it, she encouraged my computer tinkering. What a freaking weird coincidence. I thought this was all unique to me but now here's a woman that made a website like I did and someone else that got in trouble like I did. That's so weird to me for some reason. It was so fun back then, wasn't it? Teachers didn't know _anything_ about computers. We got away with so much stuff before they finally caught on. Thanks for sharing your story. It was fun to read. It brought back a lot of memories and it felt like I was sort of reading about myself.
@@xliquidflames There's no reason for me not to believe that. The 90s were a wild time for any x86 computing platform, let alone IPX/SPX. I was told by my (dumbass) VP that they would have to fly in an exec from MICROSOFT to fix all the damage I did (on a Novell network) and this would cost THOUSANDS of dollars. I quickly pointed out that the network was, in fact, Novell. There would be no need to fly anyone in, as, worst case, Microsoft has well and truly (bel et bien, not sure that translates that well) reps here, and also, I gave you my code, which I would be willing to correct to repeal the damage done to the network. I could fix it in an afternoon, there's no need to suspend me for that length of time. In the end, they reduced my suspension to 6 days, I was not allowed to access the infrastructure for that semester (oh no, keep me away from those DX2/50s!) In the end, at 15, I was already a junior tech at Brampton Computes, making hand-over-fist what any other grade 10 student was making. And I did just that- I went to work FT for that week, made bank, and returned to school where Ms. Spazenovic was relieved of teaching duties for myself. I made it to College and graduated with honours, which then propelled me to University, where I still am obtaining a Masters. So really, who won here? It sure AF wasn't Mr Dolan and his threats. All that happened was, in the VPs eyes, a threat was removed. Really all that did was entice me to pursue electronics, programming, and computer engineering, A lesser student would have been crushed. All I know is at the end of that one week of suspension, I garnished enough money to buy a 233MMX. All that for finding a command prompt and making myself at home. Good riddance, STA, hope you've matured since then :P
I don't know why, but I get this sense of calm whenever I start one of your videos. I think it reminds me of better times, I started watching you're stuff when I had my own apartment and less responsibilities. I have Nostalgia Nerd Nostalgia lol.
Truly could relate to this. Everytime i started one of Nostalgia Nerd's videos, I feel like i'm watching something that i had miss out in the 80s and 90s, and along the way, re-visiting those era a bit. It gives me the feeling like i'm watching the TV program ”Beyond 2000" again as a kid back in the day.
I built a website in 1996 on Geocities and I have kept it up mostly unchanged since then as I met my wife because of it. Obviously not hosted on Geocities anymore, I moved it to its own domain when Geocities closed.
I miss websites like these. I especially miss flash websites _(seeing this know, I'm pretty sure you don't lol, but THEY WERE COOL!!!!!!!)_ I'm really hoping web design circles back to this era of wacky and cool websites because we need it after all the weird website redesigns that just put words on a blank box haha. Cool video!
As soon as I saw this title I new it had to be this website - thank you for covering this. I have a lot of good memories about this film and this website.
Nostalgia overload thinking about all the geocities and tripod websites I created in junior high. Honestly, I was good at HTML. Kind of wish I had stuck with web development as I got older.
I love hearing about early internet history. From the mid 1980's to the early 1990's, my mom worked for a demographic data company in our city. She got to see some cutting edge computer technology of the time at her work. It was probably sometime in 1989, while using our Tandy 1000XL Hard Drive computer, that my mom explained to me that in the near future, a computer would be able to call another computer over the phone lines and communicate information with it. I remember laughing and thinking how ridiculous that entire thought was. Computers talking to each other over the phone. Still kinda makes me laugh today when I think about it, but look at internet connectivity today! Mom was right!
In '89 (really, starting - for me - in '86) my computers were doing just that. I was a pretty active BBS user, starting when my roommate came into some money and bought all his friends "expensive gifts", which in my case a was a 286 machine. Our other roommate was a software engineer, so we already had computers in various forms and states of disrepair strewn about the apartment, but this was the first one that was "mine" to do with as I pleased. Actually, by '89 I was already on the internet, being a very early customer of Bob Rieger's Netcom ISP. Still dial-up, and pre-web of course, but there was still a lot that could be done. A year or so later I started working in the software field formally (rather than being "that guy who knows computers" at a machine shop) and used internet tools to help out at my job, in particular USENET was often helpful in terms of crowdsourcing the answer to a technical problem. At least at work we had much higher speeds than my old modem at home... 😋
@9:45 Shockingly (and only realized this recently geeking out on MDN) image maps are still current HTML5 and not-deprecated. Considering I'm not sure I've seen one this millennium, it surprised me (web developer here who started in 97)
1996 was hands down my favourite year in my life so far. Especially pre-September, as I was able to keep a 386 from my middle school for fixing 30-40 PCs for them. What a time to be alive :D
I can't find it at the moment, but I am pretty sure the 1994 Stargate site actually was more graphical than that. This might be an Internet Archive issue. Some of the people who worked on that website ended up creating a company which I joined in 1999 and they inherited the Stargate franchise and we did the television show website. There was an old vault in the office space that we were in, and it was just filled with VHS tapes of Stargate!
Wow, that screenshot of the old Star Trek website really brings back memories! I spent many an evening in chatrooms there -- first on the site via a very primitive JavaScript interface, and later over IRC. And I gained some basic HTML experience of my own on GeoCities a few years later. My site wasn't as fancy as Space Jam's, but I did figure out how to make columns with invisible tables. Much thanks NN for this trip down memory lane! And to the WB folks who kept that old site up -- in one form or another. 😎 EDIT: and lol at the AMA -- "Those WERE the web standards" -- all too true! 😀
Same. I used to hang out in the Holodeck/roleplay room. Had some semirandom roleplayer take me over to the Vulcan room to propose meatspace marriage to me, which was very awkward.
Be nice for these unchanging time capsules to never die. It harks back to a purer time on the internet before invasive pop up ads, countless trackers, and autoplay videos. In 1995, i was in primary school, learning how to use a computer on an Acorn running RiscOS
Reading the title I thought it would be some semi-obscure, slightly dodgy website a la Bert is evil, but I was not expecting this turn. Excellent stuff. Also, excellent job by Marta.
Holy computer gods! This was a blast from the past that I never thought I would ever see again. Nostalgia Nerd, you're the best. I love your channel. You got a direct 1/4th jack directly into my 32 year old brain with your content. Keep it up and never stop!
oh, the fun of cobbling together something "cool" using frames, rudimentary javascript, shockwave/flash -- wouldn't want to miss those times, but am also happy they're way in the past 😅
I cannot emphasize this enough: Anyone who is getting nostalgic for the late-90s Internet *needs* to play "Hypnospace Outlaw." It is your childhood/teenhood in a bottle, and a surprisingly good investigation game on top of that. Also, as a Redditor: 17:30 Fuck yeah.
We've gotten so accustomed to the Web and it's so central to our lives nowadays that it feels kinda weird to think that it's barely 30 years old at this point. Disney's The Little Mermaid is older than it by a bit!
This story reminds me of the Amanda Please website, which was promoted heavily by Amanda Bynes' character Penelope Taynt on Nickelodeon's The Amanda Show. After the show ended in 2002, the website still remained on the internet until 2017. I can recall searching it up again in 2013 to see if it was still online, and it was, even though it hadn't been updated since May 2002. If you try looking it up now, you'll get redirected to the official Nickelodeon website as it had gotten removed in 2017.
@@KabukeeJo I know right? It was good enough for RUclips and all the Flash movies to load instantly! I was accustomed to waiting 20-60 minutes before (and usually playing another cached Flash game during the loads). Of course, websites are so much more bloated now - 20-500MB just for an article, when that’s enough data for plenty of videos. Trackers and Javascript really abuse the modern data capacity.
Back when I first got internet I would search for url's to visit and Spacejam was one of the first sites I visited. I felt like I was entering a secret code!
I don’t know why, but me, a 15 year old teen, absolutely love tech history. Thanks for bringing me into such an interesting piece of tech history still in tact
The Heaven's Gate website is still up and running too. They are the cult that committed mass suicide in 1997 (39 people). I remember hearing about it back then on Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell. Their website hasn't been updated since they self-deleted.
@@Just.A.T-Rex "Not true." Yes, it is. "You can still email the webmaster who didn’t off himself purposefully to keep it running." What does that have to do with anything? I said that the Heaven's Gate website is still up and running, which is true. I also said that it hasn't been updated since they committed suicide, which is also true.
@@dogshake "it has been updated." Not in any significant way. "They literally left behind a member for that EXACT reason." They left a member behind to keep the website running and to respond to emails and requests for tapes/literature. Making an extremely minor update once in a blue moon (such as changing the price of their book) is an insignificant part of the "job." The fundamental design/layout and information hasn't changed at all. LOL at "EXACT," in all caps no less. "Are you slow or something?" Comical Irony Alert
@ the significance of the update doesn’t matter, the admin of the site does in fact maintain and update it. You’re just wrong. Also, RUclips is doing the thing where it doesn’t tag the person I’m replying to, so that’s why the “@“ is empty.
Currently, november 2022, if you go to the new film website, a small link on the top-right with the original logo appears to redirect to the original site in all it's glory :)
Loving the Bernie Clifton trousers in the ad. I miss the early days of the internet, dial up, making crappy websites with starfield backgrounds for your IRC channel, it was all so exciting and new.
I mean it's pretty cool that they've preserved the original website at least with it's own link on the new page.. they didn't have to do that. So many large corporations are too out of touch to do something like that these days, I'm honestly surprised.. as surprised that my Doom fan page from '98 is still up and running
Me and a mate used to make websites on HTML as a hobby back then. Everything about the old internet style is so nostalgic. I do miss it for sure, it was a feeling of wonder and adventure!
OMG that reminds me of teaching myself HTML to create local "websites" on my Amiga and PC . That whole "feel" of websites, tiles, backgrounds, GIFs and tables and ..... i need a flux capacitor.
Unfortunately the website doesn't display properly in Netsurf, but that's because it uses frames which were so hated that they have been removed from the HTML standards.
That ‘Stargate’ reminded me of ye olde internet. Back in the 1990’s early websites looked like books and you’d be grateful to get coloured backgrounds or fonts.
I was on Reddit 12 years ago, but I genuinely don't know if I saw that original thread or one of the many, many reposts that soon followed lol. I feel if you go to /r/TodayILearned on any given day people are still posting about the Space Jam website being up.
When humanity finally annihilates itself and sentient beings from other worlds find the Voyager probes and track it's path back here the Space Jam website will be all that will be left of us to show what our world and culture was once like. Those poor Aliens are going to be supremely confused, and probably horrified too. Also best summation of Reddit ever!
I remember the first full length music video I downloaded was spice girls - wannabe 320x240 quicktime. I was using AOL to connect online with my IBM mwave modem/soundcard 28.8bps and later software upgrade to 33.6 bps
Galbi3000 already mentioned this, but the sponsor spot needs clarification: it does not provide one with a title or owned land. For full details, please see the recent video by Dr. Edward Hutton (The Jolly Heretic) on the subject. As for the video, well, my N64 site is older. :D But I never used anything more elaborate than tables and image maps, to maximise browser compatibility and speed (back then there were dozens of different browsers, I once counted 76 variants from the web logs).
I got my first ever student job doing 90s-style HTML websites for a local recruitment agency... did it all in Notepad and created icons using JASC Paintshop Pro! I even did a bit of Flash later on, glory days...
Enjoyed the video but concerned about the choice of sponsor. Before anyone buys their "Scottish land" please do consider that such "souvenir plots" confer no more ownership or rights to land here in Scotland than "buying a star" does to a bit of outer space. The T&C's explicitly state that legal transfer of ownership is not triggered by the purchase in the legal sense. Your "ownership" cannot be registered with Scotland's official Land Registry. Nor can you proclaim yourself actual nobility, be granted a coat of arms or register with the Court of the Lord Lyon (daft and archaic name, yes - but most things involving aristocracy are daft and archaic). A bit of fun? Maybe. A modest investment in environmental works? Perhaps - though there are better ways to do that and don't expect to guide any projects on "your" land the way you would if you bought shares in a company. Look, if folk want a novelty certificate, that's fine plus please do read the contracts carefully and in detail and consider the cultural sensitivities as well. Imagine an ad offering "a square foot of land on a Native American reservation and a certificate proclaiming you "Tribal Chief of X" or something similar.
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Please make sure you go and tell Marta what an excellent job she made of the closing credits theme tune.
Huge nod to the work done by archive.org/ and www.webdesignmuseum.org/, without which videos like this just wouldn't be possible.
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Skim-reading, I thought this was a comment from a viewer directing Nostalgia Nerd to go and tell Marta she'd done a good job, and was going to chime in with agreement.
So yes, dear Nostalgia Nerd, please go and tell Marta what an excellent job she made of the closing credits theme tune, if you would be so good.
In 1995, a few years prior to the release of the movie, the website was already in development and a server purchased and setup for the website. Back then each website was on a single computer, and the internet being new they put the computer in the backrooms at Tribune media office towers. There it remained powered on for 20 years, people being able to update it but never actually able to locate the machine. So the website stayed online until WB got taken over and new servers put in place. The old website was copied over and the website changed to the new server... but the old server... it's still up and running, in the backrooms. somewhere, no one knows where but its out there... spooky.
There’s a couple of those out there especially on the old servers made with huge 1-3 layer micro boards and thick walled capacitors - just better made stuff ensures it will run FORVER. It’s like the Tandy 1000 TL/2 I still have since I was 9 and it works perfectly and ever had to do a damn thing to repair it - ever
They say that an admin left vim open in an ssh session all those years ago and never could close it down.
The domain route got moved to the new server but we probably can still access the old server if we even still have the IP of it
A few years? the movie was released in 1996, a few months maybe, not years.
@@leap123_ you would think so but address/IP registers weren’t accurate, have been changed, system changed, IP’s handlers shifted to completely different areas etc. that couldn’t happen now so of course like you said you can just track the IP but back then if one was still running on the same server it could happen
I'm watching this in late December 2022 and when that Established Titles spot started I legit said, "Oh _NO."_ 😂
BEWARE: Established Titles is a novelty only! And that's according to their own web site in the FAQs. You are not actually legally granted a title and you do not actually own land. It's called a souvenir plot and the Scottish land registry does not keep records of people who have bought souvenir plots, because it's not yours! Even if you owned the land you still do not get a title as that tradition was overruled with a law back in the 1970's.
Always seemed like a scheme!
Also you can't actually go to your "plot of land" or see your tree that was planted there.
It was a scam let's keep it 💯
They seriously need to fix up the script they give ppl to read. It doesn't communicate this effectively at all. Same picture of the plot of land they give everyone too.
you can still buy a title, you just have to buy the whole estate
In 1996 I was the primary coder of my university's website. I was a computer lab assistant. My boss started the page and brought me in to continue it. It was truly the wild west of websites. I used Notepad as my primary tool, later moving to an app I've forgotten the name of that was basically Notepad with html tags added as macros. We couldn't afford Hot Dog.
Not only did I use tables to organize the site, but I used nested tables! We could do some amazing tricks with that!
Was it Hotmetal Pro? It taught me how HTML tags actually worked
@@shehzad_ali no the name was something similar to WordPad, but obviously that's not it. And it was free, definitely not "Pro" anything lol
Webedit? But that may has been as late as 98
@@JohnKelly2 UltraEdit, Crimson Editor, Notepad++? How about writing it all in vim?
@@anon_y_mousse Notepad++ did not exist in the 1990s. However great it is, it wasn't created till well into the 2000s. Still one of the very best coding tools there is, though
Man, Warner Brothers really missed the mark with new movie's website. Imagine if they had made it in the style of the original website.
I had the exact same thought. Could have modernised it, added new games, even a new screensaver. Shame.
Oh 90s webdesign. Full of tables, frames, and tiled backgrounds. I graduated in '95 and started making websites a couple years later, using *shudder* Frontpage for basic layout and then editing the html by hand to tweak it. It was such a fun time.
I've always loved the simplicity of 90s web sites, often out of necessity due to most users being on dial-up. I even thought of "upgrading" my old site from that era at one point in time, but decided to keep the 90s look and ease of navigation.
@Andy Merrett Props to all the late 90s browsers that managed to render HTML written in text editors and lacking at least a few proper element closing tags in the layout table.
@@nickwallette6201 As opposed to the websites now that I write in text editors, but using php to generate that html in multiple files thousands of lines long?
I feel like the pure html I learned as a teen was far simpler and cleaner.
Whow! I did the same thing! In 1998, I was a junior in high school and I was teaching myself HTML and Macromedia Flash. I built a website for my entire high school, the first one it ever had. With the help of one of my teachers, I wrote a letter to the school board and asked them to buy us a small server to act as a web server. I set it up in the office of the library. I got Apache running and registered the domain. I built the whole website from scratch in notepad using HTML and Java.
I got an A, though. I was also given an award at the end of the year from that teacher that helped me. It was the inaugural "Webmaster Award" and they still give it out every year to a student that does good things with computers. I think they changed the name of it, though. I also got a Bright Futures scholarship because of the recommendation letter that the teacher wrote for me. I have a photo of me that the local newspaper used of me sitting at the server working on the website.
That's crazy she only got a B. It was unheard of back then to have a website for a school. She totally got robbed.
Watching this video brought back so many memories of working on HTML2. The cgi-bin directory was really confusing to me at first. It took a while to figure out cgi scripts. Frames, tables, and manual formatting was all a pain. You would get the spacing all perfect in IE and then open the site in Netscape and everything would be screwed by tens of pixels and completely ruin it.
I never got a cool job like working for a movie studio, though. I ended up using the scholarship to go to the extremely overpriced and unaccredited ITT Technical Institute. That was a colossal mistake. Also, three weeks after graduating high school, I started at America Online doing tech supoort.
And in 1998, I got a 10 day suspension for installing (hacking lol... all I did was find a way to the command prompt) a bunch of games in a menu system that allowed you to play it directly from the server, or download a copy and play that way. Doom, Duke Nukem, Micro Machines, I think even Dune II (or C&C I can;t remember now). Basically, once word got out, the network slowed to a crawl.
I got caught because my log-killing script (it would just brazenly delete them wholesale) had a small typo in it, and as I furiously edited it, then executed it, the network admin and the IT dept head were able to witness what I did.
10 days for " behaviour injurious to the moral tone of the school." My mom was pissed, and also confused. I explained to her what I did, and she got my vacation trimmed to 6 days. Good thing too, I barely passed that semester. She just didn't want me at home that whole time (I ended up just working at my local computer store full time for a week) but in the end, I'm glad she spoke up. Also, my VP had a hate-boner for me. Two other friends got suspended as well, 1 day and 3 days, for being accomplices. I mean, I got a 5 day suspension for "fighting" (some lame ass short kid was hitting my friend's gf for not giving him a smoke, so I punched him in the face real hard - I recall it hurt my hand a good bit) so I'm not sure how putting a bunch of games on a server qualifies for 10 but whatever.
And I've been working in IT for 26 years now. :D
@@the_kombinator Wow. You're going to think I'm making this up now. But the only reason that teacher I mentioned took notice of me is because her husband is the one that caught me doing similar stuff to the computers in the computer lab. We had this computer lab elective you could take where they had things like CAD, a full flight sim with a complete HOTAS with pedals, yoke, and everything. They had an injection molding station that used a computer to control it. There was an audio/video workstation where the kids on the school newspaper did the morning video announcements like in the newest Spider Man movies. There were a couple computers set up to learn programming, networking, ect. It was a really complete computer lab and all anyone ever did there was play The Incredible Machine and goof off. The teacher that ran it didn't give a crap about teaching. He was one of the football coaches.
I took that elective my sophomore year in 97. I got bored fast because they weren't teaching us anything. I started tinkering with the computers. I kept getting in trouble with the teacher because he'd come around the corner and see me playing Doom or download or snooping through files. Then, I remember sitting in the dean's office talking to him and he was asking me what was on this 3.5" floppy they found in my locker that just had a pentagram drawn in the label. He didn't want to put it in any of the computers because he was afraid it would make them "blow up." I don't know if he thought it would literally blow up or if it was a figure of speech. Anyway, I got a week at DOC and wasn't allowed to use any school computers the rest of that year. The next year, the football coach/teacher that caught me, his wife is the one that ran the library and she kind of took me under her wing. Instead of punishing it, she encouraged my computer tinkering.
What a freaking weird coincidence. I thought this was all unique to me but now here's a woman that made a website like I did and someone else that got in trouble like I did. That's so weird to me for some reason.
It was so fun back then, wasn't it? Teachers didn't know _anything_ about computers. We got away with so much stuff before they finally caught on.
Thanks for sharing your story. It was fun to read. It brought back a lot of memories and it felt like I was sort of reading about myself.
@@xliquidflames There's no reason for me not to believe that. The 90s were a wild time for any x86 computing platform, let alone IPX/SPX. I was told by my (dumbass) VP that they would have to fly in an exec from MICROSOFT to fix all the damage I did (on a Novell network) and this would cost THOUSANDS of dollars.
I quickly pointed out that the network was, in fact, Novell. There would be no need to fly anyone in, as, worst case, Microsoft has well and truly (bel et bien, not sure that translates that well) reps here, and also, I gave you my code, which I would be willing to correct to repeal the damage done to the network. I could fix it in an afternoon, there's no need to suspend me for that length of time.
In the end, they reduced my suspension to 6 days, I was not allowed to access the infrastructure for that semester (oh no, keep me away from those DX2/50s!)
In the end, at 15, I was already a junior tech at Brampton Computes, making hand-over-fist what any other grade 10 student was making. And I did just that- I went to work FT for that week, made bank, and returned to school where Ms. Spazenovic was relieved of teaching duties for myself. I made it to College and graduated with honours, which then propelled me to University, where I still am obtaining a Masters.
So really, who won here? It sure AF wasn't Mr Dolan and his threats. All that happened was, in the VPs eyes, a threat was removed. Really all that did was entice me to pursue electronics, programming, and computer engineering, A lesser student would have been crushed. All I know is at the end of that one week of suspension, I garnished enough money to buy a 233MMX.
All that for finding a command prompt and making myself at home.
Good riddance, STA, hope you've matured since then :P
You mentioned Bright Futures, were you from Florida?
I don't know why, but I get this sense of calm whenever I start one of your videos. I think it reminds me of better times, I started watching you're stuff when I had my own apartment and less responsibilities. I have Nostalgia Nerd Nostalgia lol.
And the voice. The voice.
@@szilardfineascovasa6144 Oh yes. The voice.
Truly could relate to this. Everytime i started one of Nostalgia Nerd's videos, I feel like i'm watching something that i had miss out in the 80s and 90s, and along the way, re-visiting those era a bit. It gives me the feeling like i'm watching the TV program ”Beyond 2000" again as a kid back in the day.
I built a website in 1996 on Geocities and I have kept it up mostly unchanged since then as I met my wife because of it.
Obviously not hosted on Geocities anymore, I moved it to its own domain when Geocities closed.
I'd love to see it! Understandable if it's too personal though.
I miss websites like these. I especially miss flash websites _(seeing this know, I'm pretty sure you don't lol, but THEY WERE COOL!!!!!!!)_
I'm really hoping web design circles back to this era of wacky and cool websites because we need it after all the weird website redesigns that just put words on a blank box haha. Cool video!
The awesome face is the icing on the cake
Albino black sheep 😁
Older Web design might be arguably uglier but it had personality. Modern Web design feels so bland and uninteresting, imho.
i still have have a backup of pown.it's flash files, gigs and gigs of swf files
I still remember playing an early version of online chess on the old shockwave website. You had to email each other when you made a move. Slow af lol
As soon as I saw this title I new it had to be this website - thank you for covering this. I have a lot of good memories about this film and this website.
Nostalgia overload thinking about all the geocities and tripod websites I created in junior high. Honestly, I was good at HTML. Kind of wish I had stuck with web development as I got older.
I love hearing about early internet history. From the mid 1980's to the early 1990's, my mom worked for a demographic data company in our city. She got to see some cutting edge computer technology of the time at her work. It was probably sometime in 1989, while using our Tandy 1000XL Hard Drive computer, that my mom explained to me that in the near future, a computer would be able to call another computer over the phone lines and communicate information with it. I remember laughing and thinking how ridiculous that entire thought was. Computers talking to each other over the phone. Still kinda makes me laugh today when I think about it, but look at internet connectivity today! Mom was right!
In '89 (really, starting - for me - in '86) my computers were doing just that. I was a pretty active BBS user, starting when my roommate came into some money and bought all his friends "expensive gifts", which in my case a was a 286 machine. Our other roommate was a software engineer, so we already had computers in various forms and states of disrepair strewn about the apartment, but this was the first one that was "mine" to do with as I pleased.
Actually, by '89 I was already on the internet, being a very early customer of Bob Rieger's Netcom ISP. Still dial-up, and pre-web of course, but there was still a lot that could be done. A year or so later I started working in the software field formally (rather than being "that guy who knows computers" at a machine shop) and used internet tools to help out at my job, in particular USENET was often helpful in terms of crowdsourcing the answer to a technical problem. At least at work we had much higher speeds than my old modem at home... 😋
@9:45 Shockingly (and only realized this recently geeking out on MDN) image maps are still current HTML5 and not-deprecated. Considering I'm not sure I've seen one this millennium, it surprised me (web developer here who started in 97)
1996 was hands down my favourite year in my life so far. Especially pre-September, as I was able to keep a 386 from my middle school for fixing 30-40 PCs for them. What a time to be alive :D
aaah 90s internet layouts, its just missing the classic "Please Sign my scrapbook "
Around 2009/2010 I remember someone in my school computer lab sharing this website and we all went to it, thinking "wooow what an old website" 😆
Great Video, Peter, really enjoyed it. Fascinating insight into something that just screams nostalgia.
I can't find it at the moment, but I am pretty sure the 1994 Stargate site actually was more graphical than that. This might be an Internet Archive issue. Some of the people who worked on that website ended up creating a company which I joined in 1999 and they inherited the Stargate franchise and we did the television show website. There was an old vault in the office space that we were in, and it was just filled with VHS tapes of Stargate!
Yeah seems like it's missing css or some style equivalent
That is a truly incredible amount of nostalgia for any child of the '90s! I will absolutely be visiting it when I get home tonight!
The Space Jam landing screen is the modern day equivalent to the Greek model of the solar system.
what a curious history, I also keep wondering why OG Space Jam website still online, now I know why.
Wow, that screenshot of the old Star Trek website really brings back memories! I spent many an evening in chatrooms there -- first on the site via a very primitive JavaScript interface, and later over IRC.
And I gained some basic HTML experience of my own on GeoCities a few years later. My site wasn't as fancy as Space Jam's, but I did figure out how to make columns with invisible tables.
Much thanks NN for this trip down memory lane! And to the WB folks who kept that old site up -- in one form or another. 😎
EDIT: and lol at the AMA -- "Those WERE the web standards" -- all too true! 😀
Same. I used to hang out in the Holodeck/roleplay room. Had some semirandom roleplayer take me over to the Vulcan room to propose meatspace marriage to me, which was very awkward.
Be nice for these unchanging time capsules to never die. It harks back to a purer time on the internet before invasive pop up ads, countless trackers, and autoplay videos. In 1995, i was in primary school, learning how to use a computer on an Acorn running RiscOS
Reading the title I thought it would be some semi-obscure, slightly dodgy website a la Bert is evil, but I was not expecting this turn. Excellent stuff.
Also, excellent job by Marta.
I'm in Space Jam. In the scene where Michael Jordan is playing baseball in Alabama. I'm in the crowd. I've paused and picked myself out a few times.
Holy computer gods! This was a blast from the past that I never thought I would ever see again.
Nostalgia Nerd, you're the best. I love your channel. You got a direct 1/4th jack directly into my 32 year old brain with your content.
Keep it up and never stop!
I set my customers home pages to it lol 😅
7nd ;)
Peter, thank you for keeping the quality RUclips content torch alight. This was great.
oh, the fun of cobbling together something "cool" using frames, rudimentary javascript, shockwave/flash -- wouldn't want to miss those times, but am also happy they're way in the past 😅
it's beautiful that this website is still here as one of the best capsules of preserved 1990s.
Legends never die. But my geocities page sure did.
😢
should've used tripod it's somehow still around.
Have you ever checked if Oocities had it saved?
Might be in one of the Geocities archives.
Try making a Neocities.
I cannot emphasize this enough: Anyone who is getting nostalgic for the late-90s Internet *needs* to play "Hypnospace Outlaw." It is your childhood/teenhood in a bottle, and a surprisingly good investigation game on top of that.
Also, as a Redditor: 17:30 Fuck yeah.
We've gotten so accustomed to the Web and it's so central to our lives nowadays that it feels kinda weird to think that it's barely 30 years old at this point. Disney's The Little Mermaid is older than it by a bit!
This story reminds me of the Amanda Please website, which was promoted heavily by Amanda Bynes' character Penelope Taynt on Nickelodeon's The Amanda Show. After the show ended in 2002, the website still remained on the internet until 2017. I can recall searching it up again in 2013 to see if it was still online, and it was, even though it hadn't been updated since May 2002. If you try looking it up now, you'll get redirected to the official Nickelodeon website as it had gotten removed in 2017.
1996 was a great time to be alive! An era where 1.5mb Internet was amazingly fast!
I was stuck on 56k until 2006, then got a whopping 128k ADSL before finally getting ~1M in 2008 😅
@@kaitlyn__L To think that these days, 1.5mb is considered the modern day equivalent of dial-up speeds.
@@KabukeeJo I know right? It was good enough for RUclips and all the Flash movies to load instantly! I was accustomed to waiting 20-60 minutes before (and usually playing another cached Flash game during the loads).
Of course, websites are so much more bloated now - 20-500MB just for an article, when that’s enough data for plenty of videos. Trackers and Javascript really abuse the modern data capacity.
Back when I first got internet I would search for url's to visit and Spacejam was one of the first sites I visited. I felt like I was entering a secret code!
I don’t know why, but me, a 15 year old teen, absolutely love tech history. Thanks for bringing me into such an interesting piece of tech history still in tact
(try out the wayback machine - I found my old computer store (also from 1996)'s website on there :D )
Same
same but 14 haha
You should try talking to people and not being weird
@@3rd.Eye.Saw.Destruction shut up
The Heaven's Gate website is still up and running too. They are the cult that committed mass suicide in 1997 (39 people). I remember hearing about it back then on Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell. Their website hasn't been updated since they self-deleted.
Not true. You can still email the webmaster who didn’t off himself purposefully to keep it running.
@@Just.A.T-Rex "Not true."
Yes, it is.
"You can still email the webmaster who didn’t off himself purposefully to keep it running."
What does that have to do with anything? I said that the Heaven's Gate website is still up and running, which is true. I also said that it hasn't been updated since they committed suicide, which is also true.
@@MaximRecoil But you are wrong…it has been updated. They literally left behind a member for that EXACT reason. Are you slow or something?
@@dogshake "it has been updated."
Not in any significant way.
"They literally left behind a member for that EXACT reason."
They left a member behind to keep the website running and to respond to emails and requests for tapes/literature. Making an extremely minor update once in a blue moon (such as changing the price of their book) is an insignificant part of the "job." The fundamental design/layout and information hasn't changed at all. LOL at "EXACT," in all caps no less.
"Are you slow or something?"
Comical Irony Alert
@ the significance of the update doesn’t matter, the admin of the site does in fact maintain and update it. You’re just wrong.
Also, RUclips is doing the thing where it doesn’t tag the person I’m replying to, so that’s why the “@“ is empty.
ASP was not released until 2002, so that's pretty impressive that at 3:44 Dara was teaching herself it in the mid 90s
Reminds me that somehow the Gran Turismo 2 website was still up until like the release of Gran Turismo Sport. Probably 17 years still up.
This is, by far, my favorite video that you've done. Thank you sir! o7
Currently, november 2022, if you go to the new film website, a small link on the top-right with the original logo appears to redirect to the original site in all it's glory :)
Was that DJ Slope i heard? Eeeeeeeeee, that makes me so happy!
Excellent video, amazing deep dive into this website.
The first movie website I remember going to was for the 1997 film Contact.
Same team.
You forgot one more thing that's constant.
The WinRAR trial.
Loving the Bernie Clifton trousers in the ad. I miss the early days of the internet, dial up, making crappy websites with starfield backgrounds for your IRC channel, it was all so exciting and new.
I mean it's pretty cool that they've preserved the original website at least with it's own link on the new page.. they didn't have to do that. So many large corporations are too out of touch to do something like that these days, I'm honestly surprised.. as surprised that my Doom fan page from '98 is still up and running
This is just making me realize how much I need a copy of Space Jam on VHS. And a working VCR.
Nothing says quality like red Times New Roman font on a tiled outer space background. **chef's kiss**
Just because one can does not mean that one should.
Keep it Up Brotha!
Great Content for Years!
Me and a mate used to make websites on HTML as a hobby back then. Everything about the old internet style is so nostalgic. I do miss it for sure, it was a feeling of wonder and adventure!
"Site Map"!!!!! :D Forgot about that one!
She made their whole website, (which given that its a school, they are probably still using), and her jerk teacher gave her a B?!?
OMG that reminds me of teaching myself HTML to create local "websites" on my Amiga and PC . That whole "feel" of websites, tiles, backgrounds, GIFs and tables and ..... i need a flux capacitor.
old internet was so much better. it actually had character.
I may have plot of land in Egypt since I have Egyptian deity means Royalty
Ahh established titles… that aged well
nice work. mostly accurate!
Those spinning heads make me dizzy.
23:48 the epitome of "save the best for last..."
Also, I'm glad that Jen told that kid what's what during her AMA.... Kids these days... An I right?
Unfortunately the website doesn't display properly in Netsurf, but that's because it uses frames which were so hated that they have been removed from the HTML standards.
Nostalgia I love your channel I honestly wish you posted like daily (although that’s obv not feasible) I watch your stuff every evening to relax to
That ‘Stargate’ reminded me of ye olde internet. Back in the 1990’s early websites looked like books and you’d be grateful to get coloured backgrounds or fonts.
I was on Reddit 12 years ago, but I genuinely don't know if I saw that original thread or one of the many, many reposts that soon followed lol. I feel if you go to /r/TodayILearned on any given day people are still posting about the Space Jam website being up.
Thank god for the websites like this that still exist. Most of the internet is purgatory now.
I had something about this on my GeoCities page, sadly it's still under constuction but you can find it somewhere under the dancing baby gifs..
What browser and what resolution was your page optimized for?
Netscape navigator 800*600
@@Logicon1138 classic!
AAhhh MAN you did a Established Titles.....the power of money!
I am glad it still around, It's more interesting then what you see on social media.
Amazing documentary!
Thanks bunches 💜.
6:05 "Thats a nice plot of land there, be a shame if I stacked it to the brim with CRTs!" 😂
Literally me with all my CRTs XD
“That’s a nice plot of land. It’d be a shame if someone were to stack it to the brim with CRTs.”
My domestic status in a nutshell.
That ending theme is amazing!! Haha awesome video once again
Marta, you did a good job on ending tune!
The funny thing is, that the website now looks like the old one from 1996, i think its a hommage. 🤣
When humanity finally annihilates itself and sentient beings from other worlds find the Voyager probes and track it's path back here the Space Jam website will be all that will be left of us to show what our world and culture was once like. Those poor Aliens are going to be supremely confused, and probably horrified too.
Also best summation of Reddit ever!
Was so happily suprised to hear Slopes Game Room on here 😅
I remember the first full length music video I downloaded was spice girls - wannabe 320x240 quicktime. I was using AOL to connect online with my IBM mwave modem/soundcard 28.8bps and later software upgrade to 33.6 bps
This is the 5th channel just in the last couple of hours that I've seen pushing that titles ad ;)
I've theorized that they forgot they had the server, set the payments to automatic, and there is just a server machine somewhere defying age.
Galbi3000 already mentioned this, but the sponsor spot needs clarification: it does not provide one with a title or owned land. For full details, please see the recent video by Dr. Edward Hutton (The Jolly Heretic) on the subject.
As for the video, well, my N64 site is older. :D But I never used anything more elaborate than tables and image maps, to maximise browser compatibility and speed (back then there were dozens of different browsers, I once counted 76 variants from the web logs).
This was back before all websites were just generic templates.
I got my first ever student job doing 90s-style HTML websites for a local recruitment agency... did it all in Notepad and created icons using JASC Paintshop Pro! I even did a bit of Flash later on, glory days...
Had completely forgotten Joes Apartment was a thing! Talk about a blast from the past!
Just frickin awesome thank you NN
The Asobitech website still uses HTML3 Tables and the like, and is created with a text editor.
True story.
Ahhh.. The good old days of the internet.. before it became the dumpster fire of today! 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Another solid episode. Thanks Lord Nostalgia Nerd.
I'm surpised that the old site is still up and running!
I guess space jam website is like a museum exhibit on the Internet.
I remember making image maps... and frames, and opening framed links in the main frame. good times.
I didn't think the movie did the site justice tbh
Gotta love a new nostalgia nerd video.
0:50 well I didn't expect my home team to be used as the example of "basketball".
Hooray for the Stargate acknowledgement!!
Enjoyed the video but concerned about the choice of sponsor. Before anyone buys their "Scottish land" please do consider that such "souvenir plots" confer no more ownership or rights to land here in Scotland than "buying a star" does to a bit of outer space. The T&C's explicitly state that legal transfer of ownership is not triggered by the purchase in the legal sense. Your "ownership" cannot be registered with Scotland's official Land Registry. Nor can you proclaim yourself actual nobility, be granted a coat of arms or register with the Court of the Lord Lyon (daft and archaic name, yes - but most things involving aristocracy are daft and archaic).
A bit of fun? Maybe. A modest investment in environmental works? Perhaps - though there are better ways to do that and don't expect to guide any projects on "your" land the way you would if you bought shares in a company.
Look, if folk want a novelty certificate, that's fine plus please do read the contracts carefully and in detail and consider the cultural sensitivities as well. Imagine an ad offering "a square foot of land on a Native American reservation and a certificate proclaiming you "Tribal Chief of X" or something similar.
I wonder if the Space Jam sequel would exist if not for the new traffic to the old site?
Considering how the second movie was memed into existance, I'd say it's at least partially responsible. That and the DJ Quad City remix memes.
I started this video expecting to be bored in 3 minutes. I ended up watching the entire thing.
Damn, the credits 10/10. Just like I remembered the tune!