I think his art would be better if its in black and white ,but his Batman Gargoyle of Gotham variant cover looks really good, and its one of the latest Miller work so what im saying he knows what hes doing.
Digital Coloring doesn't help, FM is more graphic with his shapes and I really think that also distracts from his work. Of course he's a lot older now, he's been through a lot and i'm hope he's doing well. But for me it's just age sadly, things are still there but it's graphic and geometric in shapes.
@@ComicsWithJose I do agree with you, his recent works aren't my cup of tea .Maybe he doesn't care anymore and just phoning it in. But the guy is 66-67, so I hope he's OK and just get the $$$. Normally I wouldn't say this any artist, but this is FM and I still have my memories and books of when I adored his work. Plus thanks for highlighting that Wolverine cover with the ninjas, that was an awesome cover.
I'm not a big comics fan so don't really have the same appreciation of the history, but I kinda like the newer ones. I think the big chunky square hands and fingers and bizarre proportions are meant to be a weird stylised theme, I think it'd look a lot better if the linework was thicker in places though and maybe add a bit of depth to it.
I think part of his devolution, and maybe why the quality varies so much, is the switch from traditional mediums to digital/tablet art and the struggle to adjust. That being said it certainly doesn’t excuse the fact that this stuff is getting put out there as variant covers, especially his current Wolverine drawings, honestly nothing can explain how he went from making one of the best most iconic Wolverine covers of all time to whatever the hell that is
The style broke his brain? Hahah😅. Maybe he’s not an artist himself and can’t convey exactly what is distasteful in terms of draftsmanship? Or even aesthetically?😂😂😂
I'm not really one to say cuz I feel my art has de-volved in some ways, though to me, some of these do look samey (like a character lunging forward, front view square fists), they remind me of Super Hero Squad. That Wolverine one is just not it, the pose is awkward and the silhouette gets quite lost with the claws in that front view, if they were out to the sides it would've helped with it
He is clearly trying to channel kirby's energy on his work. His absolute batman cover it is kinda ugly but once you look at it you can tell the movement coming straight at you and the weird anatomy as a lot of kirby's work based on captain america.
Actually, his newer art looks extremely boring, it looks like a cover for a very boring comic, also, all of them are a character in the middle of the page looking at us, which is also repetitive and boring.
@@Frustratedartist2 I don't disagree with that, but... seems like most think it's the worst and are still talking about it. I recently checked out the black and white version of that terrible DK2 book and it works way better than it does in color. Still just a shadow of his Sin City work though.
It’s hard for me to say. Could be a number of reasons why his style has evolved to the current look. #1 I feel no one understands what he is going for and the colorists and inkers are doing it no favor #2 Age #3 Health like a stroke? Drug use? #4 Artist self indulgence and resting on him laurels? All 4? I just buy what I like, but I can’t imagine his variants flying off the shelves as most look uninspired.
I agree that it’s definitely much weaker than his earlier work but I do think there’s a nugget of greatness hidden in there that he’s searching for. The recent hulk, thing, and Loki I think are really fantastic and show the potential of this style. But I gotta agree that wolverine cover is just terrible.
I think he may also be putting better work into things he like and the other ones seems like hell they keep asking me to do covers let's see how long I can keep doing crappy covers till they stop
I think hes channeling Ralph Steadman. Gonzo art. Look it up if you're not familiar. And also maybe dabbling with digital format to draw? Which is not flattering to his style at all. Take a drink every time he says "cartoony".
Ronin II has his new style and that would definitely help if he drew more. But when you do only covers it really doesn't allow ppl to acclimate to the new style because this new ultra cartoony style is really different.
I think it’s a man who wants to try new things. He’s 67 for crying out loud! Let him try out a new art style if he wants! If he’s having fun then what’s the problem?!
There's no problem. As I mentioned, art is subjective. I didn't say you had to hate it. But it's not my cup of tea. His new style doesn't move my needle. Glad you like it.
@ oh no I wasn’t complaining about you and what you said in the video! Sorry if it came across as that. It was more towards people online and in the comments criticizing his current style 😅
It's not "more cartoonish", it's just bad... the guy is a legend, but he clearly can't draw anymore... I don't know what happened, but obviously something happened, probably age.
Its dog$hit. sorry. love frank millers work (mostly) otherwise, including much of his art. but he has to stop. never any denying his legacy and he'll always deserve credit and respect, but he has to stop.
I think his art would be better if its in black and white ,but his Batman Gargoyle of Gotham variant cover looks really good, and its one of the latest Miller work so what im saying he knows what hes doing.
his new work looks like the knock off hero merch at the dollar store
Digital Coloring doesn't help, FM is more graphic with his shapes and I really think that also distracts from his work. Of course he's a lot older now, he's been through a lot and i'm hope he's doing well. But for me it's just age sadly, things are still there but it's graphic and geometric in shapes.
I think you hit the nail on the head. His new style just lacks that finesse with shapes and blacks. It relies too much on cartooning.
@@ComicsWithJose I do agree with you, his recent works aren't my cup of tea .Maybe he doesn't care anymore and just phoning it in. But the guy is 66-67, so I hope he's OK and just get the $$$. Normally I wouldn't say this any artist, but this is FM and I still have my memories and books of when I adored his work. Plus thanks for highlighting that Wolverine cover with the ninjas, that was an awesome cover.
Someone stop giving him money. His stuff has become a parody of itself at this point.
His books are getting reprinted everyday, he gonna get the money even if he stops doing cover lol.
Found the woke
I was shocked by many of the things you showed me here. Art is subjective, but some of this is just easy money for the guy 😂
I'm not a big comics fan so don't really have the same appreciation of the history, but I kinda like the newer ones.
I think the big chunky square hands and fingers and bizarre proportions are meant to be a weird stylised theme, I think it'd look a lot better if the linework was thicker in places though and maybe add a bit of depth to it.
I think part of his devolution, and maybe why the quality varies so much, is the switch from traditional mediums to digital/tablet art and the struggle to adjust. That being said it certainly doesn’t excuse the fact that this stuff is getting put out there as variant covers, especially his current Wolverine drawings, honestly nothing can explain how he went from making one of the best most iconic Wolverine covers of all time to whatever the hell that is
Say cartoony 1. More. Time.
Don't worry. He will, he's gotta stretch this 3 minute topic to 16 for that sick ad rev.
"its ummmmm.... i mean he's always been cartoony.... maybe its just more cartoony?"
The style broke his brain? Hahah😅. Maybe he’s not an artist himself and can’t convey exactly what is distasteful in terms of draftsmanship? Or even aesthetically?😂😂😂
I'm not really one to say cuz I feel my art has de-volved in some ways, though to me, some of these do look samey (like a character lunging forward, front view square fists), they remind me of Super Hero Squad.
That Wolverine one is just not it, the pose is awkward and the silhouette gets quite lost with the claws in that front view, if they were out to the sides it would've helped with it
He is clearly trying to channel kirby's energy on his work. His absolute batman cover it is kinda ugly but once you look at it you can tell the movement coming straight at you and the weird anatomy as a lot of kirby's work based on captain america.
Yeah the thing cover reminded me of kirby and vince colletta, but taken too far.
I miss the old miller
The Deadpool Wolverine seriously looks like a 9gag/4chan thing
I would of found this bad ass in 6th grade
You never touch his inkers tho
Be the best or the worst. Just don't be boring. If people are still talking about this then something is working.
Actually, his newer art looks extremely boring, it looks like a cover for a very boring comic, also, all of them are a character in the middle of the page looking at us, which is also repetitive and boring.
@@Frustratedartist2 I don't disagree with that, but... seems like most think it's the worst and are still talking about it. I recently checked out the black and white version of that terrible DK2 book and it works way better than it does in color. Still just a shadow of his Sin City work though.
I don't think it is the cartoonishness its that his line work had decrease in quality
Less detail less effort. His writing is 0 effort 2😅😅😅
@ lol yeah
It’s hard for me to say. Could be a number of reasons why his style has evolved to the current look.
#1 I feel no one understands what he is going for and the colorists and inkers are doing it no favor
#2 Age
#3 Health like a stroke? Drug use?
#4 Artist self indulgence and resting on him laurels?
All 4?
I just buy what I like, but I can’t imagine his variants flying off the shelves as most look uninspired.
It's his slow decent into madness. Someone convince him to get back on his meds.
I agree that it’s definitely much weaker than his earlier work but I do think there’s a nugget of greatness hidden in there that he’s searching for. The recent hulk, thing, and Loki I think are really fantastic and show the potential of this style. But I gotta agree that wolverine cover is just terrible.
I think he may also be putting better work into things he like and the other ones seems like hell they keep asking me to do covers let's see how long I can keep doing crappy covers till they stop
Oh god I thought it couldn’t get worse
Looks like he just give a damn any more
I don’t think some of them aren’t that bad but except for the Deadpool and Wolverine one, plus the colours is not flattering at all.
I think hes channeling Ralph Steadman. Gonzo art. Look it up if you're not familiar. And also maybe dabbling with digital format to draw? Which is not flattering to his style at all. Take a drink every time he says "cartoony".
I like hes new stuff but it was better if he used it on his original characters/storys
Ronin II has his new style and that would definitely help if he drew more. But when you do only covers it really doesn't allow ppl to acclimate to the new style because this new ultra cartoony style is really different.
How old is Frank?
2 old. He was grown up in theb80s. Gott be 60s😅
Going full blocky is a good choice in my opinion. Going less blacks and ignoring anatomy is what makes his current art stink, at least sometimes
Is it for children?
I think it’s a man who wants to try new things. He’s 67 for crying out loud! Let him try out a new art style if he wants! If he’s having fun then what’s the problem?!
There's no problem. As I mentioned, art is subjective. I didn't say you had to hate it. But it's not my cup of tea. His new style doesn't move my needle. Glad you like it.
@ oh no I wasn’t complaining about you and what you said in the video! Sorry if it came across as that. It was more towards people online and in the comments criticizing his current style 😅
I love Frank MIller! Millie'Millah is one of my top dawgz but I love this topic, cuz why not point it out. Pscyched for your vids, man, Joes -gracias
I love him too. Miller is on my top 5 for sure.
It's not "more cartoonish", it's just bad... the guy is a legend, but he clearly can't draw anymore... I don't know what happened, but obviously something happened, probably age.
Hes brilliant, but his art is weak now. It's defo not the same..
HORRIBLE!
Its dog$hit. sorry. love frank millers work (mostly) otherwise, including much of his art. but he has to stop. never any denying his legacy and he'll always deserve credit and respect, but he has to stop.
I love Miller’s art evolution
"Evolution" you're missing a "De" at the beginning.
De-volution😅😅😅😅
I dislike most modern comics covers anyway but I'd still take Frank Miller today over artists like Romita Jr or Cory Walker.