If the Total War Series is on the next Xbox and all the games are available with the Steam app on the next Xbox playing beautifully, I'm definitely going to buy it day one. It would be cool to play my total war games on the next Xbox from the comfort of my couch.😊
Brilliant move by Xbox!! By having other PC companies make their own version of Xbox consoles it allows them to purchase other gaming studios without the major push back it received with the ABK deal. Because Xbox is sharing their games with other companies unlike PlayStation timed exclusives 😅
If no one buys an Xbox now because their sales are very bad, why would a company say hey, let's make something that already doesn't sell. That doesn't make sense
MS is not porting all their games over. They never said thag. They said games will go on a case by case basis. Jez is engagement farming like all other insiders.
You’re going to be surprised when everything does indeed get ported over. Idk how you can believe otherwise at this point. I’m all for Xbox still having core exclusives but I don’t think that’s going to be the case anymore.
@Arthur0ne YOUR OPINION. Has MS ever came out and said everything is going over? If you look at the games they ported why should those games stay exclusive besides maybe hifi and rush and grounded?
@ I’m not trying to argue what should and shouldn’t be exclusive, my whole point is that there is zero reason to believe anything will still exclusive. I really hope you’re right and we continue to have Xbox only console exclusives. I’ll be the first the one to admit I was wrong.
@Arthur0ne Its NOT console exclusives you mean ecosystem exclusives yes. This is what satya was saying when changing the way how ppl see xbox is what he was talking about.
The Xbox series x|s could be the base models or minimum specs then the oems could make an equivalent or high end model using different chips like intel nvidia etc. Then on the pc side you’ll have a bootable Xbox os strictly for gaming with all your launchers then windows 11 for productivity or traditional pc gaming.
Pc/console hybrid, the next evolution in consoles. Sony WILL follow, will HAVE too follow. I'm looking forward to it if I'm honest. Hopefully no more mid gens just constant next gens
The whole idea of playing steam games and sony games as part of it on an xbox is very cool. However there are so many caveats to make it work: 1. They cant optimize to just 2 xboxes…what happens with countless xbox-pc hybrids? Some games are very unoprimized on PC - like jedi survivor. 2. Price point. Samsung and Asus have to charge mark-up as they wont subsidize the consoles like MS. Average pre-built PC is at least 1K USD. I think the cheapest base xbox/pc hybrid will be around that. 3. How it differs from booting any PC and luanching xbox OS/overlay when its ready? It will be part of windows. 4. Without console market = no control. PS and big N can charge you more for putting games on their platforms. MS wont have a leverage of console share at all. 5. The paid online situation? Steam is free for example. Sounds like GP cores subs are zeroed out and GP revenues goes down as people downgrade from GPU to PC game pass. Prob more changes to GP model that we wont like as consumers. Overall GP number will drop while still not offset by cloud or PC. People still use steam and avoid GP on PC more often. Dont want to be doom+gloom guy but sounds like a way to lose platform and identy at all. Your business will just go to steam.
With tariffs a real possibility, the lead up to console distribution and manufacturing allowing 3rd party to manufacture different console configurations has the strongest model to alleviate this. Companies on a lead up of something like a console will have to buy the parts ahead of launch to prepare, it has been stipulated that Nintendo delayed Switch 2 because of this. MS and Sony do not want a situation similar to what has happened during the draught of availability.
Trumps tariff talk is no different than his border wall talk before his first inauguration. Once he steps into the Whitehouse all that tariff talk will go away. It's 2025, not 1955, so tariffs are a net zero gain strategy in this economic globalized world.
@@Cakebatteredhe will do it just like the wall, taking money from military to , he is an idiot, but musk has bought him, so he'll do whatever he is told
@@will1223141Mexico president responded immediately with tariffs same with Canada, President of Mexico has been stopping people from going through her country, why border crossings low right now, do the research
What I see is a lot of speculation and fear mongering from those who play the podcast game on both sides. Some are quelling those fears w/ some good logic using hints from previous statements from Xbox leadership. But that said, I have no fear of what xbox is doing and where they are going in the near future. Xbox is playing a long game to keep their brand around for another decade or 3. The next xbox will still be dedicated hardware w/ options to use other dedicated or cloud platforms. Tflops only matter for the amount of calculations that can happen at any given time. So in theory it means more actions can happen in front and behind the scenes. But, it's still up to the sdk and devs proficiency. I'm hoping the next xbox from Xbox is a flagship like the surface line w/ near top tier hardware and premium quality/design. I'd pay $700-800 for something that matches an rtx 5080 and a 14th/15th gen cpu. I'd pay for real hardware performance, not some p'ssr shit.
Im not sure that if they let other manufacturers build them that they will have the freedom to change components and power. They will license out a design to builders and for console games to continue compatibility on these machines they may be stuck with AMD designed GPUs at minimum. You cant write a console SDK that supports multiple manufacturers and architectures of GPU.
Oh so Valve is releasing a console, but with Microsoft as a partner ? I didn't know that. I thought it was just Valve, by themselves, releasing their own console with Steam Os. So this is all happening really soon then ? I'm ok with that.
I think you might be leaving out a very big and potential con. Having many sku's for the Xbox greatly limits developer's ability to optimize there games. You really can't skip over this. Gaming on a medium built PC is a very sub par experience than an optimized console imo. You can't really sell this Utopia of 10 different manufacturers of Xbox without considering game development, tuning, and optimization.
Which is EXACTLY the issue with PC. It’s like having all the cons of PC gaming with a fraction of the pros. If they make the machine upgradable, you may as well skip it and get a PC.
It sounds good on paper!!!! But how does Microsoft make sure each OEM device gets fully supported by devs if they are allowed to choose their own spec sheet. As id guess they would be allowed to create their own app store. Which if exclusive to each OEM device creates a headache for Microsoft. Look at Android as an example. How easy is it to port & optimize to this new eco system. As devs seem to have forgotten how to make games. They moaned at the Series S & on PC moan that large amount of users use older tech. But my main concern is can Microsoft pull it off. They have great visions but never seem to make it past the finish line. Plus they will need tp market it & support its OEMs. Which again they don't have a great track record for on other consumer products in the past.
Xbox is going multiplat as well as playstation. All of their game is on pc anyway. I am playing all. But if future Xbox put steam on xbox than I going to buy that.
Err.. All xboxes are already pcs in a box... They derived from... Direct-X box....now while I'm taking the piss, I know what you mean.. But cmon now...
All chaos does it lie this has been a thing for 15 years and nothing‘s happened they’ve been talking about this for 15 years if the 360 was going to be a PC Xbox hybrid and it did not happen so stop lying
Why tho ? I mean I've seen no argument From anyone on eggs that's has a law degree because let's face it.The closest thing we got right now is emulation.From Nintendo games, Nintendo games Nintendo tried to Sue emulation and lost.Because technically it's not stealing when you buy a copy of it, the game so you can't keep it off PC.So basically.That's as close as you're gonna get now.Say this say that the PlayStation game runs exclusively on the Windows 11 on the Xbox.Well , it's the same thing technically , so it could try to sue them , but that's what microsoft Argue, that is basically the PC side running it and Sony. Put the game on PC. Sony will probably try to argue something like well. Technically, it's using the Xbox controller. They could win there, but then basically the Xbox. Could just allow the PS5 controller without all the benefits and get again. I think people on PC can use an Xbox controller. So it's gonna be very hard in court to argue this because it just seems like it's super simpler to the emulation lawsuit that Nintendo tried. You see where they've actually won is when they pirit they game. And get those websites shut down.When they make money off it , they haven't gone after all the emulation , but in the past they
Sony can't block it. That's the other beauty of it. They would have to block every brands PC. The days of Sony moneyhatting are over unless they restrict them to just their console. And then if they don't sell enough games the studio goes bust. So Devs will follow Square Enix and say no to Sony.
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Microsoft to Sony: Checkmate
Are you kidding? With the power of the PS5 Pro........wait nvm.....
Facts. Final nail to the coffin next gen.
@@SheepAmongG.O.A.Twhat power?
You smokin sumn?
It's called sarcasm @@theintellectualtrader
lol
Ive been waiting for this evolution!
If the Total War Series is on the next Xbox and all the games are available with the Steam app on the next Xbox playing beautifully, I'm definitely going to buy it day one.
It would be cool to play my total war games on the next Xbox from the comfort of my couch.😊
If this is all true I will be buying this
Will the next Xbox allow mods 🤔
This gen already allows all the mods on arma reforger that PC has?
Brilliant move by Xbox!! By having other PC companies make their own version of Xbox consoles it allows them to purchase other gaming studios without the major push back it received with the ABK deal. Because Xbox is sharing their games with other companies unlike PlayStation timed exclusives 😅
If no one buys an Xbox now because their sales are very bad, why would a company say hey, let's make something that already doesn't sell. That doesn't make sense
If they are implementing a pc console will the xbox series x and s get some stuff maybe like steam software etc?
I think it's only for the upcoming hardware
MS is not porting all their games over. They never said thag. They said games will go on a case by case basis. Jez is engagement farming like all other insiders.
You’re going to be surprised when everything does indeed get ported over. Idk how you can believe otherwise at this point. I’m all for Xbox still having core exclusives but I don’t think that’s going to be the case anymore.
@Arthur0ne YOUR OPINION. Has MS ever came out and said everything is going over? If you look at the games they ported why should those games stay exclusive besides maybe hifi and rush and grounded?
@ I’m not trying to argue what should and shouldn’t be exclusive, my whole point is that there is zero reason to believe anything will still exclusive. I really hope you’re right and we continue to have Xbox only console exclusives. I’ll be the first the one to admit I was wrong.
@Arthur0ne Its NOT console exclusives you mean ecosystem exclusives yes. This is what satya was saying when changing the way how ppl see xbox is what he was talking about.
@@ipityplaystationpeasants2305 yeah, we’ll see what happens.
Mid gen upgrade...no problem heres your new gpu 👍
My thing is for the next generation Xbox Do you get the ultimate game pass or do you get PC gamepads if it's going to be considered a PC
I really want that hybrid console! I’m just glad they finally picked a lane and sticking to it
The Xbox series x|s could be the base models or minimum specs then the oems could make an equivalent or high end model using different chips like intel nvidia etc. Then on the pc side you’ll have a bootable Xbox os strictly for gaming with all your launchers then windows 11 for productivity or traditional pc gaming.
Pc/console hybrid, the next evolution in consoles. Sony WILL follow, will HAVE too follow. I'm looking forward to it if I'm honest. Hopefully no more mid gens just constant next gens
If sony does I am thinking they ll try and ruin things by making their own pc store and then making things exclusive to that
You already know Sony gonna follow,that's all they do,just like they done this generation.
@@De1usionsofGrandeurCan’t really make a PC store exclusive
@@aggressiveoatmealmemes6881 they can its pretty much the same reason most pc gamers hate the epic store
@@De1usionsofGrandeur At that point it feels like cutting off your nose to spite your face. It’s a lot of effort to deny a revenue stream
I would love a dash that has launcher logos like: XBOX, XBOX 360, SERIES X|S, etc.
Tflops aren't the be all end all but they obviously mean something if they're still included in GPU specs. Its still a measurement of performance.
The whole idea of playing steam games and sony games as part of it on an xbox is very cool.
However there are so many caveats to make it work:
1. They cant optimize to just 2 xboxes…what happens with countless xbox-pc hybrids? Some games are very unoprimized on PC - like jedi survivor.
2. Price point. Samsung and Asus have to charge mark-up as they wont subsidize the consoles like MS. Average pre-built PC is at least 1K USD. I think the cheapest base xbox/pc hybrid will be around that.
3. How it differs from booting any PC and luanching xbox OS/overlay when its ready? It will be part of windows.
4. Without console market = no control. PS and big N can charge you more for putting games on their platforms. MS wont have a leverage of console share at all.
5. The paid online situation? Steam is free for example. Sounds like GP cores subs are zeroed out and GP revenues goes down as people downgrade from GPU to PC game pass. Prob more changes to GP model that we wont like as consumers. Overall GP number will drop while still not offset by cloud or PC. People still use steam and avoid GP on PC more often.
Dont want to be doom+gloom guy but sounds like a way to lose platform and identy at all. Your business will just go to steam.
New xbox series x has really brought anything new from the previous generation imo
With tariffs a real possibility, the lead up to console distribution and manufacturing allowing 3rd party to manufacture different console configurations has the strongest model to alleviate this.
Companies on a lead up of something like a console will have to buy the parts ahead of launch to prepare, it has been stipulated that Nintendo delayed Switch 2 because of this.
MS and Sony do not want a situation similar to what has happened during the draught of availability.
Trumps tariff talk is no different than his border wall talk before his first inauguration. Once he steps into the Whitehouse all that tariff talk will go away. It's 2025, not 1955, so tariffs are a net zero gain strategy in this economic globalized world.
@@Cakebatteredthen why did Canada and Mexico pledge to help trump after tarif threats when it comes to illegal immigrants?
@@Cakebatteredhe will do it just like the wall, taking money from military to , he is an idiot, but musk has bought him, so he'll do whatever he is told
@@will1223141Mexico president responded immediately with tariffs same with Canada, President of Mexico has been stopping people from going through her country, why border crossings low right now, do the research
This is just the start in my opinion, wait till World of Warcraft hits the xbox. Better hold on😊
Who is standing behind Master Chief in the Thumbnail? Is it the legendary John Xbox?
So it will just be a PC with a console emulator installed? We already have that.
The actual plan is all games streaming only for every platform. Gaming will boil down to apps on your TV and Phone including Steam.
What I see is a lot of speculation and fear mongering from those who play the podcast game on both sides. Some are quelling those fears w/ some good logic using hints from previous statements from Xbox leadership. But that said, I have no fear of what xbox is doing and where they are going in the near future.
Xbox is playing a long game to keep their brand around for another decade or 3. The next xbox will still be dedicated hardware w/ options to use other dedicated or cloud platforms.
Tflops only matter for the amount of calculations that can happen at any given time. So in theory it means more actions can happen in front and behind the scenes. But, it's still up to the sdk and devs proficiency.
I'm hoping the next xbox from Xbox is a flagship like the surface line w/ near top tier hardware and premium quality/design. I'd pay $700-800 for something that matches an rtx 5080 and a 14th/15th gen cpu. I'd pay for real hardware performance, not some p'ssr shit.
Im not sure that if they let other manufacturers build them that they will have the freedom to change components and power. They will license out a design to builders and for console games to continue compatibility on these machines they may be stuck with AMD designed GPUs at minimum. You cant write a console SDK that supports multiple manufacturers and architectures of GPU.
If you have Steam on an Xbox will PlayStation keep putting games on Steam?
They can't anger their shareholders so yes they'll still put games on PC. The only people angry will be exclusive lovers.
Oh so Valve is releasing a console, but with Microsoft as a partner ? I didn't know that. I thought it was just Valve, by themselves, releasing their own console with Steam Os. So this is all happening really soon then ? I'm ok with that.
What you are saying sounds way to complicated. Devs are already losing their min with the series s.
I think you might be leaving out a very big and potential con. Having many sku's for the Xbox greatly limits developer's ability to optimize there games.
You really can't skip over this. Gaming on a medium built PC is a very sub par experience than an optimized console imo.
You can't really sell this Utopia of 10 different manufacturers of Xbox without considering game development, tuning, and optimization.
Which is EXACTLY the issue with PC. It’s like having all the cons of PC gaming with a fraction of the pros.
If they make the machine upgradable, you may as well skip it and get a PC.
@@marquisbutler8924
You are missing the point of the minimum specifications any branded device has to meet.
It sounds good on paper!!!!
But how does Microsoft make sure each OEM device gets fully supported by devs if they are allowed to choose their own spec sheet. As id guess they would be allowed to create their own app store. Which if exclusive to each OEM device creates a headache for Microsoft. Look at Android as an example.
How easy is it to port & optimize to this new eco system. As devs seem to have forgotten how to make games. They moaned at the Series S & on PC moan that large amount of users use older tech.
But my main concern is can Microsoft pull it off. They have great visions but never seem to make it past the finish line. Plus they will need tp market it & support its OEMs. Which again they don't have a great track record for on other consumer products in the past.
If they go pc like, with gpu expansion... then the risk of turning into the next sega is close. But of course microsoft want cloud gaming
We don’t care no more,we are only getting PS6 next gen
Dell xbox xps 1000 💀👽
This old man is in tears inside….
Even PlayStation games will go to Xbox as well.
Xbox is going multiplat as well as playstation. All of their game is on pc anyway. I am playing all. But if future Xbox put steam on xbox than I going to buy that.
I love it
Please be so if it has steam id buy 100 present
Xbox 💪💪💪💪💪💪 💯 💚
🎮
Eco system
And what casual is going to care about this when all they care about is call of duty and FIFA or fortnite. I think they just going to buy PlayStation
Err.. All xboxes are already pcs in a box... They derived from... Direct-X box....now while I'm taking the piss, I know what you mean.. But cmon now...
Can you run linux on them
No it ain't lol
All chaos does it lie this has been a thing for 15 years and nothing‘s happened they’ve been talking about this for 15 years if the 360 was going to be a PC Xbox hybrid and it did not happen so stop lying
He’s not lying,it’s a opinion
They have already accomplished the Xbox is a PC for 2 generations now. So stop calling people liars.
@ he is a liar Xbox is not a PC. this dude is a loser.😂😂
@ if you don’t agree with him, he will block you that is What a loser does.😂😂😂🤦♂️🤦♂️
it's cute you guys think MS can use Steam to play PS5 games on Xbox with no legal consequences. Just you wait. that fantasy will never happen.
Why tho ? I mean I've seen no argument From anyone on eggs that's has a law degree because let's face it.The closest thing we got right now is emulation.From Nintendo games, Nintendo games Nintendo tried to Sue emulation and lost.Because technically it's not stealing when you buy a copy of it, the game so you can't keep it off PC.So basically.That's as close as you're gonna get now.Say this say that the PlayStation game runs exclusively on the Windows 11 on the Xbox.Well , it's the same thing technically , so it could try to sue them , but that's what microsoft Argue, that is basically the PC side running it and Sony. Put the game on PC. Sony will probably try to argue something like well. Technically, it's using the Xbox controller. They could win there, but then basically the Xbox. Could just allow the PS5 controller without all the benefits and get again. I think people on PC can use an Xbox controller. So it's gonna be very hard in court to argue this because it just seems like it's super simpler to the emulation lawsuit that Nintendo tried. You see where they've actually won is when they pirit they game. And get those websites shut down.When they make money off it , they haven't gone after all the emulation , but in the past they
It's really just a PC running Steam though.
Sony can't block it. That's the other beauty of it. They would have to block every brands PC. The days of Sony moneyhatting are over unless they restrict them to just their console. And then if they don't sell enough games the studio goes bust. So Devs will follow Square Enix and say no to Sony.
Legal consequences? Please elaborate 😂
Sony can easily request that Valve whitelist Xbox OS devices, and Valve would do it.
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