1:02:17 "But long story short, she panics at the disco and [Jason] decides "let’s kill tonight" and he does. He strangles her. I guess it’s a sin and a tragedy." Never change, your sense of humor is what makes your Horror History superior to other film recaps/ timelines
@@Fascinatingstreet even long story short can be a reference to their song titles as the earlier works (I write sins, not tragedies) kind of also imply. That whole bit was a super-entendre for a Panic! At The Disco fan lol
@@MasterMemo I’m gonna have another watch to see but there probably was way more due to the fact these two mention each other several times throughout the years of each others channels
To add to the humor : Zac mentions that jason kills a lot of people named Jim (which could be short for James), because he probably hates people whose name begins with a J ... and Dead Meat's host is called James ... 😹
Jason is smart in the sense that he has low Intelligence, high Wisdom. He couldn’t tell you what 7x4 is, but he could absolutely tell you how to use every single sharp tool on planet earth as a weapon. He probably can’t read a book, but he can read the room to know the best spot to hide and ambush someone. He gets easily distracted, but knows that it’s just another target for him to get.
@@thejongshow8821 Dead meat is a Yt channel similar to this one but instead of focusing on the killers and their story it focus on the kills and how they did them
As a kid actually born with hydrocephalus and still suffering from its aftereffects decades later, I can absolutely see that for Jason. Thankfully, my case isn't as dramatically severe, but my right eye and ear are definitely lower than my left and I have some killer pressure headaches. I'd be dead if I hadn't had a shunt put in as a child and then had it lengthened as a teen.
I have hydrocephalus but not as severe as some people I’ve seen, so I’m very fortunate with my last revision in 2021-2022. Once I realized that’s what Jason’s look was based off of I stopped watching the franchise as I feel like it’s making fun of us… everyone is different and I don’t get offended easily by any means but this to me is disrespectful and making fun of a potentially life threatening brain injury
@Nicole-xm4mb I am not commenting to make light of what you are saying. I am glad you are able to have a quallity of life with your condition. That being said...the lore behind Jason and his affliction is actually a lesson . Don't make fun of people with these types of issues and be more aware and caring or there are consequences. The whole point in a twisted way is empowerment of the underdog. Irresponsible humans who mistreated or neglected him pay the ultimate price. This is just a perspective of the filmakers and the story that one can keep in mind so as to realize that they are not poking fun at the condition but...quite the opposite. The ones who take their " normal" existence for granted will, if not careful, suffer doom. Please take care, I wish you well.
CZ is literally one of like 5 people I can listen to breakdown long form content without being irritated. He’s so fair, well researched and entertaining. Nuff respect ✊🏾
23:59 the very first movie even foretold Jason's obsession with defenestration, when the Friday The 13th logo zooms in towards us until it smashes through a pane of glass we didn't know was there
My headcanon is that Pamela found Jason after he drowned, but he was brain dead, like his soul left his body. The spell book summoned his soul back from the dead, but it inhabited Pamela until she died. Afterwards it returned to Jason’s body, which did continue to grow all that time since he was technically still alive. The Jason at the end of Part 1 was the spirit of the lake that also tried to drown Renny
17:40 the reason for friday the 13th itself being unluck was because during a religious crusade, the crusaders had heavily lost which caused a lot of casualties and so it just became widespread that its unlucky.
there is also the account that the Knights Templars were betrayed and declared heretics by the French King Philip on Friday the 13th of October in 1307 and put to death which lead to the wiping out of the Order.
I've always believed that Jason didn't drown. Pamela was so grief-stricken that she used the book to try and bring him back, not knowing he wasn't dead and the dormant magic in him was activated when his body was struck by lightning.
This 👆💯✅️ I never understood why people thought Jason had actually died in the lake despite the fact that up until part 4 he was still relatively human.
It may sound marvelesque, but if Jason was born in 1946, and we don't know much about his father... What if his dad, in 1945 worked on the Manhattan Project and had radioactive sickness and passed some of on through his sperm after the war.
I was just coming to comment this. I think Jason was able to wash ashore before drowning to death and simply ran away into the forest. He couldn’t find his mom afterwards because the camp closed. Years later he finally sees her at the camp again the night she’s killing everyone, and he watches her get killed. And I think The Kid Jason scene at the end of the 1st movie is simply a hallucination. Jason is human until he’s killed in Part 4 and then is accidentally revived by Tommy Jarvis in Part VI. After part VI he’s obviously a zombie man
according to Betsy, the backstory she came up with, based on her wearing a highschool class ring in the movie, was that [elias] was just her highschool sweetheart and they were teenagers and she had Jason out of wedlock and her parents threw her out and [elias] didnt wanna be tied down with a kid.. once Savini made him special needs, that even more supports that backstory as its very likely in that time, a teenage boy, especially a "bad boy" who may or may not of had an interest in the occult (I base this on the grungy look they were gonna give him in 6 and the necronomicon being in the house)
I always reckoned Jason can never die, but the waters of Crystal Lake have some power over him. He is subdued for a time when he goes under, but he wakes up. His mother is killed, he wakes up. He gets an electric shock, he wakes up and so forth.
It’s wild how these people keep going back to this same lake. I heard TWO Somer Sanchez videos about killer scare actors, and I texted my 18 year old to NEVER work at a haunt. People really didn’t care about their kids back then.
My goat! 🔥 Jason really has been through a LOT over the years, hasn't he? 🤔 From Manhattan, to hell, to space... hard to believe he started off an innocent boy. 💀
You finally uploaded Jason Voorhees's horror history. I should recommend you to do Hannibal Lecter's horror history. If you can research everything you can.
Jason is a dang unit, bro had the government try and kill him, had a glorified freezer designed for him, and now he gets to murder in AN ENTIERLY DIFFERENT PLANET
I've always heard different theories on why Jason is a grown man and has invincibility, but I have my own ideas. I personally think he did survive the drowning when he was a child and snuck off into the woods (possibly to avoid the bullying of the other kids after that incident) and then years later when Pamela was killed, discovered her and that's what set him off on his killing spree. I do find this a bit more plausible since up until Jason Lives, he wasn't undead (at least, not from my perspective since he didn't look like a walking corpse in Part II, Part III and the Final Chapter. Just a disfigured man). I think after Jason Lives is when he REALLY became invincible because of the lightning strike at the beginning, and of course undead haha. I also remember reading that there was a different backstory to his drowning in which instead of being pushed in by bullies, Jason snuck out in the middle of the night to prove he could swim. I wouldn't think that'd work since the camp counselors were likely asleep (which would invalidate that they were doing it when they were supposed to be watching him). These are all just my own perspectives and theories, and I'm open to hearing others!
This was shown to be true in the Friday the 13th Reboot where at the start of the film Jason finds his mother dead in the 80’s and keeps her head until 2009 when the film takes place he’s also a defensive outdoorsman in this movie he’s shown to only kill people who were disturbing his property
Some fans think that he survived and was kidnapped by a deranged pedophile hermit and held captive for years hence the old shack from part 2 and that the torment he endured turned him into a monster.
I was wondering the same, plus pamela only said they were too busy, no one really mentioned if part of his original "Deformities" had any affect on his ability to be verbal and understood, After that much trauma even if his energy/essence kept getting transfered he wouldn't have developed the learned motor skills involved in talking as much of his other gross motor related functions that were useful to him in say using a machete or a chain saw against an opponent
@@mistytwilight5638 it still makes since that his lung would be full of water seeing how he basically lives underwater and the lungs are required to speak
I can't believe you discussed Jason teleporting a few times and then didn't bring it up during JTM where he does it the most. That stair scene is crazy lol
in my opinion I think it makes more sense that Jason didn't actually drown he just washed up on the other side of the lake and lived in the woods, this could also explain why Jason looks like an adult it could be the muscle from living in the woods and building his own shack, this is most likely copium as i think that Jason being a deadite kinda takes away form the character in my opinion
I suspect that the demon Jason's mother made a deal with was her second helper, and per contract animated her son's body with the his soul to claim the final kill. Deal concluded, it returned the soul and possessed a better human vessel
@@Kurze1988 it is just funnt how CZ went on about how the opinion of the director of Jason Lives doesn't matter but the opinion of the director of the worst Jason movie is suddenly cannon
As a hardcore F13 lore nerd, this is probably the best and most accurate continuity breakdown I've seen. Only a few corrections. F13 8 most likely takes place in either 1994 or 1996. JGTH is anywhere between 1999 and 2001. FvsJ is 2003. Over on the NOES side, Freddy's Dead is 1999, ten years after pt 5 and four before FvJ. Your method for narrowing down the years makes sense but for JTM you can say it's not on a Friday the 13th while JGTH and FvsJ can be narrowed down with the NOES timeline.
Honestly Jason is a victim killer and in some capacity we could sympathize with him but he’s also a killer icon and is something we should always understand him as what I call “The Broken Slasher” a character who was given misfortune or mistreatment by others and has either snapped or has broken down in some emotion or another.
One of Horror’s Iconic Villains got a History Spotlight Hopefully for the others like Leatherface, Victor Crowley, or Pinhead to have their History in the future
@@HivelordTempura hey thanks buddy things have been getting better I actually aquired enough to rent a bedroom in New Jersey and I was able to go search for work will keep everyone updated ❤️🩹 thank you for being here in these rough times I appreciate it truly
A phenomenal video as always! Made this year's Halloween even better. Although I'm more of a supporter of the official explanation of Jason's story - that he didn't in fact drown and was a human from Parts 2 through 4 and then returned as 'Zombie Jason' from Part 6 onwards, your research and theories were excellent!!!
14:17 Jason never actually drowned, after escaping the water he fled into the woods waiting for Pamela to find him, living off bugs and plants for like 22 years. Part 2, 3, and 4 is a human Jason and part 6 and onwards he's a zombie
@enenra6417 Freddy vs Jason could exist in a universe where 6-9 never happened and Jason is in hell after being killed by Tommy or after part 8 where he could have been killed by the toxic waste.
Just something to add, I'm only in the beginning of the video but I'm pretty sure that Jason didn't actually drown when he was little, but he escaped into the woods, finally dying in part 4 after he got the machete in his head. He was then revived in part 6 making him invincible. To be fair I'm going off of the remake for this one though.
With the whole Evil Dead thing, just because Kandarian magic plays a part in Jason's origin doesn't necessarily mean that he's a Deadite. I think he's a different kind of entity, but he's clearly not just a Deadite.
This is hilariously coincidental I just finished the Michael Meyers deep dive you uploaded yesterday and was planning on requesting this exact character to learn about next, low and behold here it is! Sweet, good job, and keep em coming!
Except Deadites aren't undead individuals they're usually evil spirits posessing the dead, Jason wouldn't have his personality or memories that way, and yet he does.
Well, Jason goes to hell isn't canon to the Friday the 13th movies, pay attention to the timeframe and Jason already being an adult in the first film makes sense, he saw the beheading from the woods and the following year goes after everyone
"A canon movie isnt canon because I dont want it to be and so regardless of what the directors say they are wrong about their own movies and I am right"
@@TheShadowOfHumanity because it's ridiculous for one single director of a BAD MOVIE to decide to add mythos from a completely different franchise and expect everyone to accept that shitty explanation
You did get at least one thing wrong. Pamela Voorhees wasn't channeling Jason's spirit as he never did actually drown. The reasoning for this is that Part 2 takes place at most a year later, and by then, Jason is fully grown. She DID use it, thinking Jason was dead, but the spell of resurrection didn't work because he wasn't actually dead. The first official death of Jason was in Part 4. That's why he was able to come back in Part 6, Jason Lives, because the spell only works on those who have died, and Jason was dead by then.
@GuilynSlothbear the reason why we are pointing this is out is because Jason would still be a child (or a teenager at most) by the time the second movie takes place. Few months or a years isn't gonna magically turn Jason from an underaged kid to a hulking grown man
I love the research you do behind each movie!! Like the dates behind everything....I am so excited that you finally did Jason ....I have never been able to sit down and watch all the Friday the 13th movies...I just love the way you break things down!! ❤❤❤ So I have a thought, topic thought..... Have you ever thought of breaking down Supernatural....a season at a time?? Or any horror show like that?? But Supernatural would be awesome ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤😮😮😮😮😮😮😂😂😂😂😂😊😊😊😊😊
"Jason was the original slasher to get basement burinated, 30 years before Michael Myers" A New Blood came out in 1988. Freddy was set on fire in a basement 4 years prior.
46:31 It's like how Kane Hodder says Jason wouldn't kick a dog even though he killed and ate animals to survive when he lived in the woods for 20 years.
I'd say he would kill animals if needed to survive or needed to not be detected like killing a dog that is barking and gives up his position. But if we're talking in the sense of just kicking them in an abusive sense to project his anger, then I kind of agree that it isn't in his character considering he has become what he currently is due to the abuse of others. So I'd say, he would probably try to be better though he isn't any better because he kills innocent people. But he's out for revenge and has his mind set on certain targets, he didn't mess around with anybody that didn't stand in his way, so I also guess whatever stands in his way gets taken out too.
Well anyone would kill and eat animals to survive but I feel like if anyone had undying love at any point other than his mother, it'd be a pet. So I can see him not holding the same hatred he does towards humans
I love your videos! Maybe do Smile next? You’re always so thorough and informative. I love it because horror is my favorite genre. You give me a whole new outlook/knowledge on my favorite characters and movies. Thank you 😊🧡
The window breaking montage was hilarious 😂 He's also not fond of doors. Jason is my favorite character. I loved him as a kid, his hockey mask is just so iconic. And as mother later, his story just resonates with me. There's just something so simple and core to the human experience of loss, suffering, and love that binds what is otherwise a straight forward horror series. I think that's why it's so beloved.
NEVER been a huge Jason fan or Friday the 13th but this was an awesome video and ive watched it multiple times .. its one of my favorite character analysis videos on this channel next to Dr. Loomis, Michael Myers, and of course my all-time favorite FREDDY KRUEGER!! Thanks for replying to my email Zac!!
8:20 in my head cannon, the appearance of the Necronomicon is just an attempt to get fans clamoring for a F13/ED crossover. Why else would it have taken 13 years to put it in…
This was awesome!!! I enjoy all of the CZ videos, but I can tell this one has a special place in his heart! CZ and Dead Meat...making the world better one kill at a time lol.
I have thought about the topic at 3:03 for YEARS; how the scenes where Jason drowned were different. You pretty much explained it in common sense; I never thought about the story being told second-hand in Part 8. Nice job, good sir.
The deadite theory is kinda lame. I just figured he nearly drowned but got swept to a different area of the lake and found by someone in a shack and he just learned to live off the area. Lending credence to the idea of his drip in the first few films. It also explains his keen tracking and hunting ability, along with his great sense of direction. I also assume the near drowning led to maybe a long term memory loss, explaining why he never connected with his mother again until after her end.
So, did that "person" he met also treat his Hydrocephalus? Because even if he did not drown, his Hydrocephalus would have taken his life if left untreated. So, either he found a way to treat it(which is highly unlikely)or something supernatural was keeping him alive...
Jason’s a tank, favorite killer! I became a huge fan of this Franchise and Evil dead separately growing up, so the Easter egg in Jason goes to hell was very cool to kinda make sense of it all! The theories about being a deadite or how he seemingly aged so quick is always at the back of my mind! Thanks for the video🎃
This vid has shown me that I was right about a lot of things and way off on some others. The connection to the Evil Dead via the Necronomicon is genius! Makes way more sense. Great vid. Well done.
Tina: collapses an entire house on top of Jason Can't rip Jason in half? I'm sure wood and concrete are much harder to break than human flesh and bone. Yeah I'm that guy lol yes I know they have to keep the possibility of sequels afloat. But i can't ignore everyone's stupidity in horror when they don't go for total dismemberment of the villain once they've been downed. Also, I'm quite surprised you missed the Beowulf reference with the ship in Jason X being called "Grendel"
Awesome that you finally did a Jason Voorhees Horror History agree with some of the other comments here that Leatherface and Hannibal Lector would be awesome to see.Keep up the Awesome work CZ.
1:02:17 "But long story short, she panics at the disco and [Jason] decides "let’s kill tonight" and he does. He strangles her. I guess it’s a sin and a tragedy." Never change, your sense of humor is what makes your Horror History superior to other film recaps/ timelines
That’s one of my top 5 Panic songs, too. Made me so happy 😭🙌🏼
@@Fascinatingstreet even long story short can be a reference to their song titles as the earlier works (I write sins, not tragedies) kind of also imply.
That whole bit was a super-entendre for a Panic! At The Disco fan lol
Such a cool statement to those who enjoy their music
The Dead Meat stuff kept catching me off guard and was hilarious
I got the Dead Meat, real dead meat intro. The to the numbers bit. And the end credits music. Any others?
@@MasterMemo I’m gonna have another watch to see but there probably was way more due to the fact these two mention each other several times throughout the years of each others channels
I promise I did the same thing 😂😂😂😂
The way I cackled at 'the numbers' bit!!! I swear my neighbours must think a witch lives next door all of a sudden!! 😂😂😂
To add to the humor : Zac mentions that jason kills a lot of people named Jim (which could be short for James), because he probably hates people whose name begins with a J ... and Dead Meat's host is called James ... 😹
Jason is smart in the sense that he has low Intelligence, high Wisdom. He couldn’t tell you what 7x4 is, but he could absolutely tell you how to use every single sharp tool on planet earth as a weapon. He probably can’t read a book, but he can read the room to know the best spot to hide and ambush someone. He gets easily distracted, but knows that it’s just another target for him to get.
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What are you doing here you do Arkham videos not horror
I pretty sure it's natural hunting and or survival skill. I highly doubt it's a wisdom.
Wisdom or instinct?
Well said
- Wrong channel line was good. You two are my go to horror channels.
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I don’t get the joke
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@thejongshow8821 Check out Dead Meat - "The Kill Count"
@@thejongshow8821 Dead meat is a Yt channel similar to this one but instead of focusing on the killers and their story it focus on the kills and how they did them
As a kid actually born with hydrocephalus and still suffering from its aftereffects decades later, I can absolutely see that for Jason. Thankfully, my case isn't as dramatically severe, but my right eye and ear are definitely lower than my left and I have some killer pressure headaches. I'd be dead if I hadn't had a shunt put in as a child and then had it lengthened as a teen.
I'm 45 and was as well. In all I've had a total of 7 surgeries.
I have hydrocephalus but not as severe as some people I’ve seen, so I’m very fortunate with my last revision in 2021-2022. Once I realized that’s what Jason’s look was based off of I stopped watching the franchise as I feel like it’s making fun of us… everyone is different and I don’t get offended easily by any means but this to me is disrespectful and making fun of a potentially life threatening brain injury
Glad you were able to get the help you need.
I’m legit wondering how u look?
@Nicole-xm4mb
I am not commenting to make light of what you are saying. I am glad you are able to have a quallity of life with your condition.
That being said...the lore behind Jason and his affliction is actually a lesson .
Don't make fun of people with these types of issues and be more aware and caring or there are consequences.
The whole point in a twisted way is empowerment of the underdog.
Irresponsible humans who mistreated or neglected him pay the ultimate price.
This is just a perspective of the filmakers and the story that one can keep in mind so as to realize that they are not poking fun at the condition but...quite the opposite.
The ones who take their " normal" existence for granted will, if not careful, suffer doom.
Please take care, I wish you well.
CZ is literally one of like 5 people I can listen to breakdown long form content without being irritated. He’s so fair, well researched and entertaining. Nuff respect ✊🏾
Feel the same way ❤
Frfr for me it has to do with the topic and the fact that it's really well put together while being comedic and informative
Agreed most YTers make me fall asleep if it's longer than 20 minutes 😂
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So you don't get annoyed at "contAnue" or "begANning"?
Kid 1: "What do you think?"
Kid 2: "I think we're CZsWorld"
Real CZsWorld
Together we are CZsWorld
Dead meat reference
YOU’RE CZSWORLD!!!
Go ahead and laugh you guys. But if I find the guy who did this… They’re CZSWorld.
" Jason...my special, special boy. " Thanks for the Horror History lesson CZsworld!
That profile picture is cool. love earthbound
23:59 the very first movie even foretold Jason's obsession with defenestration, when the Friday The 13th logo zooms in towards us until it smashes through a pane of glass we didn't know was there
Zac, all the Dead Meat references and the "Numbers" bit...? EPIC!!! Such a class act! 🖤
Bro finally did a Friday The 13th video😭
At a reasonable time it seems so too yes.
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Well I thought bro dipped his self 😅
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@@Conor-sd4vc-900 well I ain't hateing just bored of seeing the same content over and over again!
Jason hates windows because they're reflective like the water he drowns in and also he doesn't like to look at himself
That's actually kinda sad
Uhh when he first got his mask he looked in the mirror to check it. He was lookin spiffy
@@enenra6417 his whole story is sad bru 😂😂🙏🏽
Wrong lol because he actually looks into a lot of them especially while checking his mask out
@@SIasherStudios Probably to see his new face, doesn't mean he liked to see his own face or masked form.
Jason Voorhees is iconic and Happy Halloween!
My headcanon is that Pamela found Jason after he drowned, but he was brain dead, like his soul left his body. The spell book summoned his soul back from the dead, but it inhabited Pamela until she died. Afterwards it returned to Jason’s body, which did continue to grow all that time since he was technically still alive. The Jason at the end of Part 1 was the spirit of the lake that also tried to drown Renny
I love this
17:40 the reason for friday the 13th itself being unluck was because during a religious crusade, the crusaders had heavily lost which caused a lot of casualties and so it just became widespread that its unlucky.
there is also the account that the Knights Templars were betrayed and declared heretics by the French King Philip on Friday the 13th of October in 1307 and put to death which lead to the wiping out of the Order.
@mercurioslevin1877 Didn't know about that one thank you!
I've always believed that Jason didn't drown. Pamela was so grief-stricken that she used the book to try and bring him back, not knowing he wasn't dead and the dormant magic in him was activated when his body was struck by lightning.
This 👆💯✅️ I never understood why people thought Jason had actually died in the lake despite the fact that up until part 4 he was still relatively human.
Yep
It may sound marvelesque, but if Jason was born in 1946, and we don't know much about his father... What if his dad, in 1945 worked on the Manhattan Project and had radioactive sickness and passed some of on through his sperm after the war.
I was just coming to comment this. I think Jason was able to wash ashore before drowning to death and simply ran away into the forest. He couldn’t find his mom afterwards because the camp closed. Years later he finally sees her at the camp again the night she’s killing everyone, and he watches her get killed. And I think The Kid Jason scene at the end of the 1st movie is simply a hallucination. Jason is human until he’s killed in Part 4 and then is accidentally revived by Tommy Jarvis in Part VI. After part VI he’s obviously a zombie man
Or it’s just bad writing
according to Betsy, the backstory she came up with, based on her wearing a highschool class ring in the movie, was that [elias] was just her highschool sweetheart and they were teenagers and she had Jason out of wedlock and her parents threw her out and [elias] didnt wanna be tied down with a kid.. once Savini made him special needs, that even more supports that backstory as its very likely in that time, a teenage boy, especially a "bad boy" who may or may not of had an interest in the occult (I base this on the grungy look they were gonna give him in 6 and the necronomicon being in the house)
Let's add a wrinkle to Betsy's backstory. The kid who knocked up Mama Voorhees had a summer job as a window installer ... 🤣
Jason goes to hell is not Canon to the Friday movies, strictly added by someone who wanted to connect the franchise to evil dead
@@ryanwest9546and yet it is canon lol
Even if you like it or not it remains canon to the og Friday the 13th timeline
@notBrocker it's a fact that it's not canon
I always reckoned Jason can never die, but the waters of Crystal Lake have some power over him. He is subdued for a time when he goes under, but he wakes up. His mother is killed, he wakes up. He gets an electric shock, he wakes up and so forth.
It’s wild how these people keep going back to this same lake. I heard TWO Somer Sanchez videos about killer scare actors, and I texted my 18 year old to NEVER work at a haunt. People really didn’t care about their kids back then.
47:06 Deadmeat x CzWorld crossover 👀👀👀
My goat! 🔥
Jason really has been through a LOT over the years, hasn't he? 🤔
From Manhattan, to hell, to space... hard to believe he started off an innocent boy. 💀
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A Texas chainsaw massacre breakdown next would be amazing!!! Love the slasher breakdowns
You finally uploaded Jason Voorhees's horror history.
I should recommend you to do Hannibal Lecter's horror history. If you can research everything you can.
1:17:22 just don’t
SO TRUE LOLLL😂😂
Jason is a dang unit, bro had the government try and kill him, had a glorified freezer designed for him, and now he gets to murder in AN ENTIERLY DIFFERENT PLANET
window: exists
Jason: "and i took that personally"
I've always heard different theories on why Jason is a grown man and has invincibility, but I have my own ideas. I personally think he did survive the drowning when he was a child and snuck off into the woods (possibly to avoid the bullying of the other kids after that incident) and then years later when Pamela was killed, discovered her and that's what set him off on his killing spree. I do find this a bit more plausible since up until Jason Lives, he wasn't undead (at least, not from my perspective since he didn't look like a walking corpse in Part II, Part III and the Final Chapter. Just a disfigured man). I think after Jason Lives is when he REALLY became invincible because of the lightning strike at the beginning, and of course undead haha. I also remember reading that there was a different backstory to his drowning in which instead of being pushed in by bullies, Jason snuck out in the middle of the night to prove he could swim. I wouldn't think that'd work since the camp counselors were likely asleep (which would invalidate that they were doing it when they were supposed to be watching him). These are all just my own perspectives and theories, and I'm open to hearing others!
Absolutely agree with you!!0
This was shown to be true in the Friday the 13th Reboot where at the start of the film Jason finds his mother dead in the 80’s and keeps her head until 2009 when the film takes place
he’s also a defensive outdoorsman in this movie he’s shown to only kill people who were disturbing his property
This is what I’ve always kind of though also helps it was backed up by the Reboot in 2009
Some fans think that he survived and was kidnapped by a deranged pedophile hermit and held captive for years hence the old shack from part 2 and that the torment he endured turned him into a monster.
@ Oh damn. That would be an interesting concept and it would give a new layer to Jason’s character. Hurt people hurt people.
No way he just did a To the Numbers bit 😂, be proud James!
I got a theory of my own, jason cant speak due to his lungs being full of water in all of his movies
I was wondering the same, plus pamela only said they were too busy, no one really mentioned if part of his original "Deformities" had any affect on his ability to be verbal and understood, After that much trauma even if his energy/essence kept getting transfered he wouldn't have developed the learned motor skills involved in talking as much of his other gross motor related functions that were useful to him in say using a machete or a chain saw against an opponent
@@mistytwilight5638 it still makes since that his lung would be full of water seeing how he basically lives underwater and the lungs are required to speak
I can't believe you discussed Jason teleporting a few times and then didn't bring it up during JTM where he does it the most. That stair scene is crazy lol
I just saw that you and Jon solo know each other and my world of enjoying his stories and my world of you deep diving into every horror history merged
Who is Jon solo
@@tashekiaedwards8702 Jon shot first.. the fairytale messed up origin guy
God... That necronomicon thing is a story worth a video all its own. Because that its a REALLY long amd complicated story... Its a fun story though.
in my opinion I think it makes more sense that Jason didn't actually drown he just washed up on the other side of the lake and lived in the woods, this could also explain why Jason looks like an adult it could be the muscle from living in the woods and building his own shack, this is most likely copium as i think that Jason being a deadite kinda takes away form the character in my opinion
on the Friday the 13th forum there is a page titled "Jason is not a deadite" which gives a lot of evidence as to why Jason isn't a deadite
Your opinion is the ACTUAL story of what happened. No matter what the director of the worst Jason movie says
I suspect that the demon Jason's mother made a deal with was her second helper, and per contract animated her son's body with the his soul to claim the final kill.
Deal concluded, it returned the soul and possessed a better human vessel
@asudevil316 that guy said he wanted to do evil dead not Friday so yeah his opinion kinda holds little water
@@Kurze1988 it is just funnt how CZ went on about how the opinion of the director of Jason Lives doesn't matter but the opinion of the director of the worst Jason movie is suddenly cannon
As a hardcore F13 lore nerd, this is probably the best and most accurate continuity breakdown I've seen. Only a few corrections. F13 8 most likely takes place in either 1994 or 1996. JGTH is anywhere between 1999 and 2001. FvsJ is 2003. Over on the NOES side, Freddy's Dead is 1999, ten years after pt 5 and four before FvJ. Your method for narrowing down the years makes sense but for JTM you can say it's not on a Friday the 13th while JGTH and FvsJ can be narrowed down with the NOES timeline.
Honestly Jason is a victim killer and in some capacity we could sympathize with him but he’s also a killer icon and is something we should always understand him as what I call “The Broken Slasher” a character who was given misfortune or mistreatment by others and has either snapped or has broken down in some emotion or another.
Thank you, this is MY BOY!! I have been waiting for this video since I found you. Asked for it a couple times. And now it's finally here!!!
One of Horror’s Iconic Villains got a History Spotlight
Hopefully for the others like Leatherface, Victor Crowley, or Pinhead to have their History in the future
That Hellraiser timeline is gonna have to be many videos unless its strictly the movies, once you add the Hellraiser comics it adds a lot more
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I'm homeless too, good luck out there man
Good luck to you fellas. Hope kindness comes when you needed the most
@@michaelscottoriginal thank you! ❤️
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A phenomenal video as always! Made this year's Halloween even better. Although I'm more of a supporter of the official explanation of Jason's story - that he didn't in fact drown and was a human from Parts 2 through 4 and then returned as 'Zombie Jason' from Part 6 onwards, your research and theories were excellent!!!
This is my favorite video on your channel! And I loved the dead meat "crossover"! 🤣🤣🤣
14:17 Jason never actually drowned, after escaping the water he fled into the woods waiting for Pamela to find him, living off bugs and plants for like 22 years. Part 2, 3, and 4 is a human Jason and part 6 and onwards he's a zombie
Blame the stupid deadite retcon in Jason goes to hell for the confusion
@Rottenishere, that movie is non canon, in my opinion, at least.
@@MegaHeafyea in ur opinion bc that holds so much weight💀
@MegaHeaf I mean jason goes to hell is kind of the only way to explain freddy vs jason
@enenra6417 Freddy vs Jason could exist in a universe where 6-9 never happened and Jason is in hell after being killed by Tommy or after part 8 where he could have been killed by the toxic waste.
Yes! I'm so happy you've finally covered everyone's favorite camper killer!!
Just something to add, I'm only in the beginning of the video but I'm pretty sure that Jason didn't actually drown when he was little, but he escaped into the woods, finally dying in part 4 after he got the machete in his head. He was then revived in part 6 making him invincible. To be fair I'm going off of the remake for this one though.
I don't think the remake was cannon 💀
@@Mr.Savini_Official Just something I thought I would add
With the whole Evil Dead thing, just because Kandarian magic plays a part in Jason's origin doesn't necessarily mean that he's a Deadite. I think he's a different kind of entity, but he's clearly not just a Deadite.
Exactly. There are A LOT of pages in that book other than the ones read in the Evil Dead movies and he behaves in totally different ways.
Amazing video man, I don’t think I’ve ever watched something this long and been so focused and not looked at the time even once❤
Damn. CZ looking extra dapper in this one.
You’re a special boy CZ, a special special boy. Amazing content as always.
This is hilariously coincidental I just finished the Michael Meyers deep dive you uploaded yesterday and was planning on requesting this exact character to learn about next, low and behold here it is! Sweet, good job, and keep em coming!
awesome video as always... loved the Panic! at the disco reference!
lol 😂 the dead meat bit at the end got me I was like wait a min did the vids switch up on me
Love you and Dead Meat’s breakdowns!
Never considered the Deadite angle to explain Jason being alive in Part 2. Now a lot of the series suddenly makes sense
Except Deadites aren't undead individuals they're usually evil spirits posessing the dead, Jason wouldn't have his personality or memories that way, and yet he does.
Well, Jason goes to hell isn't canon to the Friday the 13th movies, pay attention to the timeframe and Jason already being an adult in the first film makes sense, he saw the beheading from the woods and the following year goes after everyone
"A canon movie isnt canon because I dont want it to be and so regardless of what the directors say they are wrong about their own movies and I am right"
@@TheShadowOfHumanity because it's ridiculous for one single director of a BAD MOVIE to decide to add mythos from a completely different franchise and expect everyone to accept that shitty explanation
@@kennethsatria6607 Jason's soul is occupying his body. So he'll have his personality and memories intact.
You did get at least one thing wrong. Pamela Voorhees wasn't channeling Jason's spirit as he never did actually drown. The reasoning for this is that Part 2 takes place at most a year later, and by then, Jason is fully grown. She DID use it, thinking Jason was dead, but the spell of resurrection didn't work because he wasn't actually dead. The first official death of Jason was in Part 4. That's why he was able to come back in Part 6, Jason Lives, because the spell only works on those who have died, and Jason was dead by then.
part 2 takes place 2 months later
It wasn’t years later when part 2 happened, it was maybe a few months since the events of the first movie.
@@randomserbianguy5677 That's why I said "AT MOST".
@GuilynSlothbear the reason why we are pointing this is out is because Jason would still be a child (or a teenager at most) by the time the second movie takes place. Few months or a years isn't gonna magically turn Jason from an underaged kid to a hulking grown man
@@randomserbianguy5677 And I know that. So why are you pointing out the obvious? Did you get confused somewhere with what I said?
I love the research you do behind each movie!! Like the dates behind everything....I am so excited that you finally did Jason ....I have never been able to sit down and watch all the Friday the 13th movies...I just love the way you break things down!! ❤❤❤
So I have a thought, topic thought..... Have you ever thought of breaking down Supernatural....a season at a time?? Or any horror show like that?? But Supernatural would be awesome ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤😮😮😮😮😮😮😂😂😂😂😂😊😊😊😊😊
Loving this channel. So many MCR references. 51:44 caught me so off guard.
"Jason was the original slasher to get basement burinated, 30 years before Michael Myers" A New Blood came out in 1988. Freddy was set on fire in a basement 4 years prior.
At work rn but when I go on my break I’m watching some of this & the rest when I get home 🔥🔥🔥
46:31 It's like how Kane Hodder says Jason wouldn't kick a dog even though he killed and ate animals to survive when he lived in the woods for 20 years.
I'd say he would kill animals if needed to survive or needed to not be detected like killing a dog that is barking and gives up his position. But if we're talking in the sense of just kicking them in an abusive sense to project his anger, then I kind of agree that it isn't in his character considering he has become what he currently is due to the abuse of others. So I'd say, he would probably try to be better though he isn't any better because he kills innocent people. But he's out for revenge and has his mind set on certain targets, he didn't mess around with anybody that didn't stand in his way, so I also guess whatever stands in his way gets taken out too.
Well anyone would kill and eat animals to survive but I feel like if anyone had undying love at any point other than his mother, it'd be a pet. So I can see him not holding the same hatred he does towards humans
@@wehavethemeats4004 He kills Muffin and Gordon
This was an insanely well done video. I clicked to just have a background video playing and ended up really getting into it. Subscribed for sure
My favorite slasher! Thank you so much for the video.
I love your videos! Maybe do Smile next? You’re always so thorough and informative. I love it because horror is my favorite genre. You give me a whole new outlook/knowledge on my favorite characters and movies. Thank you 😊🧡
I went to school as Jason in kindergarten, back in 95
How did it go?
You have no idea how old you just made me feel with this post
@@KB-qk1ic I am probably older. Born 78.
How did the teachers like that? lol
@@harryparsons2750 ^
Well it’s about F***ING time you do Jason Vorhees! I’m literally binge listening to your videos at work RN. Loving it!
Finally ! Have been waiting for a Friday the 13th vid for so long 😅
The window breaking montage was hilarious 😂 He's also not fond of doors. Jason is my favorite character. I loved him as a kid, his hockey mask is just so iconic. And as mother later, his story just resonates with me. There's just something so simple and core to the human experience of loss, suffering, and love that binds what is otherwise a straight forward horror series. I think that's why it's so beloved.
We been waiting for this for a long time finally you made it.
It's not over months that Jason died, it's years. The OG murders happened in the 60's. It skips to real time after opening and says dates
1958*
Your wrong it was the 50's not 60's
@Ilovesharks444 1959 I remember now but I'm out by a year unlike what was said in the video
Has anyone ever noticed that CZ and James are never in the same room at the same time together??? Conspiracy?!?!
NEVER been a huge Jason fan or Friday the 13th but this was an awesome video and ive watched it multiple times .. its one of my favorite character analysis videos on this channel next to Dr. Loomis, Michael Myers, and of course my all-time favorite FREDDY KRUEGER!!
Thanks for replying to my email Zac!!
Well done on this video man, the amount of work you put into this ois outstanding... I really enjoyed watching this.
Well done mate 👏
I thought you'd never touch this franchise thank you zack happy Halloween everyone
8:20 in my head cannon, the appearance of the Necronomicon is just an attempt to get fans clamoring for a F13/ED crossover. Why else would it have taken 13 years to put it in…
The "mom is a cook at camp so the kid can go to it" plot also happens in Camp Rock 😂😂
47:05 - Thank you for making the Dead Meat reference. I love both of you guys
thank you so much for making this video! it's really interesting and well done
You released this on my birthday, Jason is my favorite slasher, thank you for the birthday gift CZ, keep putting content out 💯💯🖤🖤
Happy birthday 🎉🎈🎂🎊🎁
Mine to 😊Happy birthday 🎁 🎂🎁🎁🎁🎂🎂
@@jessicashannon4178 Thank you!!
@@rosemarymcgrory-eb2gd Hell yeah birthday twin, happy birthday as well!!
@ Your welcome
2:38 I feel bad for Jason fr
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Yessss! It’s about time we got one for my boy Jason
Great work on the channel mate! Big fan!
This was awesome!!! I enjoy all of the CZ videos, but I can tell this one has a special place in his heart! CZ and Dead Meat...making the world better one kill at a time lol.
The sleeping bag slam to tree is in most lists the #1 Jason kill shot
Maybe Jason breaks windows because he hates his own reflection
CZ finally dropped the jason video i've been waiting for years
Amazing video, These horror history videos are so enjoyable
I have thought about the topic at 3:03 for YEARS; how the scenes where Jason drowned were different. You pretty much explained it in common sense; I never thought about the story being told second-hand in Part 8. Nice job, good sir.
Jason Voorhees was my favorite character from friday the 13th franchise
We need a cz world ,dead meat and found flix colab or maybe a dead meat horror history
Now that I can agree with cuz all three of those people I can listen to over and over and over and not get bored great storytellers
@@Finessessari_81 fr I listen to all three of their channels at work during my 10 hour shift and I never get bored even if it’s my 5th time watching
I”’ve waited a long time for this” -Darth Sidious
1:01:08 Dead meat boutta start quivering, James’ knees be knocking 😂
I like how many different theory’s you bring up in this video that never came across my mind which makes so much sense.
You killed October 🔪 🪓 🏒
Rest in peace October 😔
The deadite theory is kinda lame. I just figured he nearly drowned but got swept to a different area of the lake and found by someone in a shack and he just learned to live off the area. Lending credence to the idea of his drip in the first few films. It also explains his keen tracking and hunting ability, along with his great sense of direction. I also assume the near drowning led to maybe a long term memory loss, explaining why he never connected with his mother again until after her end.
So, did that "person" he met also treat his Hydrocephalus? Because even if he did not drown, his Hydrocephalus would have taken his life if left untreated. So, either he found a way to treat it(which is highly unlikely)or something supernatural was keeping him alive...
Jason’s a tank, favorite killer!
I became a huge fan of this Franchise and Evil dead separately growing up, so the Easter egg in Jason goes to hell was very cool to kinda make sense of it all!
The theories about being a deadite or how he seemingly aged so quick is always at the back of my mind! Thanks for the video🎃
Nice Stu Macher reference too by the way! Very excited for the news on Scream 7 coming 2026
Finally!!! Thank you for the video I was waiting after you made the documentary on Freddy
This vid has shown me that I was right about a lot of things and way off on some others. The connection to the Evil Dead via the Necronomicon is genius! Makes way more sense. Great vid. Well done.
Bro did the most legendary. Horror character this late
Crazy
I love him, but he is not the most legendary Michael is.
Well seeing how confusing Jason history is, I can’t blame him. I barely understood his detailed explanation which is crazy
Jason really does hate windows.
To be fair, they can be kind of a pane.
Tina: collapses an entire house on top of Jason
Can't rip Jason in half? I'm sure wood and concrete are much harder to break than human flesh and bone. Yeah I'm that guy lol yes I know they have to keep the possibility of sequels afloat. But i can't ignore everyone's stupidity in horror when they don't go for total dismemberment of the villain once they've been downed. Also, I'm quite surprised you missed the Beowulf reference with the ship in Jason X being called "Grendel"
Awesome that you finally did a Jason Voorhees Horror History agree with some of the other comments here that Leatherface and Hannibal Lector would be awesome to see.Keep up the Awesome work CZ.
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