they should make it so if you use the anti material rifle it zooms out further than the maximum zoom out you can usually have. Since its a long range sniper rifle and all. It also really needs armor piercing...
As a plus, it should go trough at least 1 window, loosing some damage of course but that way its risk reward and you can perform some actual sniper assasinations.
even if you are a nerd you could not imagine how useful this is to to people who are not able to consistently get traitor or don’t want to spend their precious tc on a gun they don’t know how works
I would love to see a cheap ammo bundle that's an absolute mess, bullets that are unmarked, mis matching sizes/different terminology, mags with some bullets that have armor piercing or either effects mixed in (some that cause jams, needs to be ejected), and real form of lottery, some real good RP vibes from it, real gritty imperfections, but, maybe have some real heavy duty bullets in the mix, uranium rounds, dragons breath, crazy sci-fi bullets, a 1 in 5000 chance of a 'golden bullet' that just insta gibs, pure chaos.
@@GoGoRobotoWhat he means is, that the main admins and contributors have a stick up their ass, and hardly ever allow for anything that's too fun, creative or innovative (such as this idea), because it doesn't fit their super serious, linear, strict personal vision of how the game should be (they love claiming they care about the community and value feedback, but time and time again they've proven they don't give a damn and just want to rule with an iron fist). See for example the comment of another person in this comment section saying how they tried to give the Hristov AP rounds, but they kept removing it because it doesn't fit their plans and vision. It's either their way, or nothing. And the community has very little say in things, as they just force in or out whatever they like or don't like based on their own personal taste and vision (see for example the whole grid inventory debuckle), rather than the community's.
@@FunnyStripes a somewhat grounded experience for the main game seems fine, people are allowed to make their own servers. I and many others not be playing as much if every other wacky PR went through
We did mime ops once at the cost of 20tc before the owner admin restarted the server *we got cobras. Disk. North of gloves stars. And nearly done doing nukies/had the nuke going* this was form Goon station
Multiple people, including me, have tried to give the hristov ammo AP, but every time it’s denied because… we don’t have attachments yet Pretty cringe, AP is probably all the hristov needs to be good right now
Even with AP it'd still be considerably worse than the Python. The Hristov would technically out value it due to the ammo being cheaper, but for actual pvp its not even close.
@@Liltenheadthat kind of risky gameplay would probably still be enjoyed by some people (myself included) so it still feels like a good change in my eyes.
I learned that the cobra is best at taking out shuttle pilots as they wont notice you shooting them untill they are crit. It also works against seated people well as they have to unbuckle first
My ideas for the Hristov, and for snipers in general. Fristly, the damage of the base ammo is upped to 75, which seems right for an Anti Material rifle, it also ignores 50% of the target's resistance on hit. It is semi-automatic, with an increase fire rate, but is extremely inccaurate from the hip, requring you to steady the weapon before firing or looking down it's new high-powered scope, able to see a huge 30 tiles away. Note, you can't move while steadying the weapon, so you're probably going to want a sidearm incase things go sideways. It has to be retracted in order to properly stow it in most containers, which is a short action. It accepts 5 round extrenal magazines. Mags can be purchased for 1 TC, and specialty ammo can be bought. AP (1TC): It removes the structural damage it can deal, for the ability to pentrate some walls, people, and armor. HE (2 TC): A Microbomb in a bullet, detonates on contact. SMRT (2TC): Less damage, but now can home in on perspective targets, usefull if you want to hipfire this cannon. It does come in it's own special case, which is a valid item, with two normal mags and one AP mag loaded, the bundle will set you back 15 TC though, so ammo is going to be something of note. Then we have the Vesper. This 30 caliber caseless rifle packs an intergral supressor. It replaces the Histrov in the Sniper bundle, coming with two magazines of AP ammuniton. It's most notable thing is that it's ammo does 25 damage, meaning you can four tap someone into crit. Given it's fast fire rate, this seems reasonable. It is far more accurate from the hip, and takes sigficiantly less time to steady. Magazines are available, costing 1 TC, but only has armor pericing.
since all these firearm and lethal and combat stuff is coming out. It would be good to make a general combat guide that includes melee and ranged weapons and best tactics to use
Really helpful video! The low chance of getting antag roles and various TC prices of weaponry in the uplink makes it difficult to get a good grasp of how each weapon handles. I think i'm going to be more likely to try some of these weapons out now!
yea compared to the ss13 anti-material rifle it's a peashooter but im kinda glad it's not the same as the ss13 one cuz it can staight up tear of limbs and stun you for long enugh for the person with the sniper to shoot again and fighting against that is not fun
Also tip with cobra you can buy storage and two ammo with cobra and should have about 7 or 8 tc left so if need be can buy more ammo and you can stealth with it if people hear it they most prob ignore it since it’s not that loud hitting someone if ya get close to a head you can mag dumb and dead in full mag if you can get a command Id very easy best bet would be cmo their suit has like no deafening capability so one mag dead have fun testing and thanks for this video liltenhead you gave me funny idea
So, thinking, but if the kardishev was SLIGHTLY better it would be op for its cost. Like 1.5 aps and 15 bullets, and a working bayonet. Viper aint gonna assasinate a qm in skaf armor and eplorer mask tho.
hristov is the least viable weapon, I've only ever used it from a surplus crate once, I've got it 3 times but had to leave it due to its huge size. never seen anyone use it in game, apart from a video when it first came out. needs a re-tweak.
I was about to say I've never even seen a Cobra or a Hristov used, but realized probably for 2 different reasons... The cobra because it's silent, and the hristov because it's garbage lol
While this wasn't directly mentioned in the video, if I remember correctly you can actually reload the Viper for free using magazines stolen from Security - because the MK58 that secoffs spawn with also uses .35 Auto. Of course, that requires you to both kill a secoff and have time to loot the corpse before more arrive, but it's worth considering. Also, buying an EMAG gets you access to TC-free ammo printing for anything except (if I remember correctly) the Hristov and Cobra so long as you have an autolathe and materials to feed it. and finally, if you're specifically either a botanist or Salv, you can get effectively infinite Pythons for a major discount by finding/buying and then planting gatfruit seeds. anyways this chain of little edits to my comment has gone on long enough, so I want to end it by saying that it would take about 4 traitors' worth of TC to arm an entire LRP server with Mosins.
they should make it so if you use the anti material rifle it zooms out further than the maximum zoom out you can usually have. Since its a long range sniper rifle and all. It also really needs armor piercing...
That would be a great mechanic, make the zoom level go out when you've got it equip.
As a plus, it should go trough at least 1 window, loosing some damage of course but that way its risk reward and you can perform some actual sniper assasinations.
Code it yourself, and everyone shall thank you
maybe it could pan your camera around like in hotline miami?
We have that! Just make it apply the shuttle controller effect on you when you, wield it, for example
Yes, I'm a nerd.
Bookworm i'm studious
Make tutorial how make cheese and taco shells =)
even if you are a nerd you could not imagine how useful this is to to people who are not able to consistently get traitor or don’t want to spend their precious tc on a gun they don’t know how works
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That's an odd way of spelling based
I would love to see a cheap ammo bundle that's an absolute mess, bullets that are unmarked, mis matching sizes/different terminology, mags with some bullets that have armor piercing or either effects mixed in (some that cause jams, needs to be ejected), and real form of lottery, some real good RP vibes from it, real gritty imperfections, but, maybe have some real heavy duty bullets in the mix, uranium rounds, dragons breath, crazy sci-fi bullets, a 1 in 5000 chance of a 'golden bullet' that just insta gibs, pure chaos.
Won't ever happen, no fun allowed in SS14
@@tadpolegaming4510?
I'd buy it everytime cause I like gambling
@@GoGoRobotoWhat he means is, that the main admins and contributors have a stick up their ass, and hardly ever allow for anything that's too fun, creative or innovative (such as this idea), because it doesn't fit their super serious, linear, strict personal vision of how the game should be (they love claiming they care about the community and value feedback, but time and time again they've proven they don't give a damn and just want to rule with an iron fist).
See for example the comment of another person in this comment section saying how they tried to give the Hristov AP rounds, but they kept removing it because it doesn't fit their plans and vision. It's either their way, or nothing. And the community has very little say in things, as they just force in or out whatever they like or don't like based on their own personal taste and vision (see for example the whole grid inventory debuckle), rather than the community's.
@@FunnyStripes a somewhat grounded experience for the main game seems fine, people are allowed to make their own servers. I and many others not be playing as much if every other wacky PR went through
nukies with python makes friendly fire a huge issue... so they rarely use it.
Yup
Bring back the revolver's 60 damage a round
when are we getting the full chef recipe guide
i want an instrument tier list
The full list its at ss14 website, kinda outdated but it works
@@4dmost991the yml is the best thing for it, website and wiki are missing a bunch
If you dig in the game's files, you can find .inis with all the exact recipes in the game for most things (cooking, chemical, drinks, etc.).
We did mime ops once at the cost of 20tc before the owner admin restarted the server *we got cobras. Disk. North of gloves stars. And nearly done doing nukies/had the nuke going* this was form Goon station
We need a Hristov buff.
Multiple people, including me, have tried to give the hristov ammo AP, but every time it’s denied because… we don’t have attachments yet
Pretty cringe, AP is probably all the hristov needs to be good right now
Even with AP it'd still be considerably worse than the Python. The Hristov would technically out value it due to the ammo being cheaper, but for actual pvp its not even close.
@@Liltenheadthat kind of risky gameplay would probably still be enjoyed by some people (myself included) so it still feels like a good change in my eyes.
And on the sixth day god bestowed upon spessman the bulldog, and sawthat it was good
I learned that the cobra is best at taking out shuttle pilots as they wont notice you shooting them untill they are crit.
It also works against seated people well as they have to unbuckle first
My ideas for the Hristov, and for snipers in general.
Fristly, the damage of the base ammo is upped to 75, which seems right for an Anti Material rifle, it also ignores 50% of the target's resistance on hit. It is semi-automatic, with an increase fire rate, but is extremely inccaurate from the hip, requring you to steady the weapon before firing or looking down it's new high-powered scope, able to see a huge 30 tiles away. Note, you can't move while steadying the weapon, so you're probably going to want a sidearm incase things go sideways.
It has to be retracted in order to properly stow it in most containers, which is a short action. It accepts 5 round extrenal magazines. Mags can be purchased for 1 TC, and specialty ammo can be bought.
AP (1TC): It removes the structural damage it can deal, for the ability to pentrate some walls, people, and armor.
HE (2 TC): A Microbomb in a bullet, detonates on contact.
SMRT (2TC): Less damage, but now can home in on perspective targets, usefull if you want to hipfire this cannon.
It does come in it's own special case, which is a valid item, with two normal mags and one AP mag loaded, the bundle will set you back 15 TC though, so ammo is going to be something of note.
Then we have the Vesper. This 30 caliber caseless rifle packs an intergral supressor. It replaces the Histrov in the Sniper bundle, coming with two magazines of AP ammuniton. It's most notable thing is that it's ammo does 25 damage, meaning you can four tap someone into crit. Given it's fast fire rate, this seems reasonable. It is far more accurate from the hip, and takes sigficiantly less time to steady. Magazines are available, costing 1 TC, but only has armor pericing.
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Uncle Dane watcher behavior
@@juke9674 LMAO you motherfucker how did you KNOW
@@juke9674 how did you KNOW
since all these firearm and lethal and combat stuff is coming out. It would be good to make a general combat guide that includes melee and ranged weapons and best tactics to use
I hope the amr gets a buff I remember it used to be really good for single target assassination
Really helpful video! The low chance of getting antag roles and various TC prices of weaponry in the uplink makes it difficult to get a good grasp of how each weapon handles. I think i'm going to be more likely to try some of these weapons out now!
Install a self-build local server on your computer to be able to analyze updates immediately, as well as experiment
I honestly find the automatic magazine ejection of the C20 to be more annoying than helpful, I always save my magazines because they can be reloaded
You usually don't have that privilege as a nukie/syndie though?
its a surplus rifle for a reason! it's for a surplus amount of people!
:)
Embarrassing how bad the sniper is, I can’t believe it’s damage has been reduced so much
yea compared to the ss13 anti-material rifle it's a peashooter but im kinda glad it's not the same as the ss13 one cuz it can staight up tear of limbs and stun you for long enugh for the person with the sniper to shoot again and fighting against that is not fun
I Solo’d an HoS with just the viper and like three backup mags
Also tip with cobra you can buy storage and two ammo with cobra and should have about 7 or 8 tc left so if need be can buy more ammo and you can stealth with it if people hear it they most prob ignore it since it’s not that loud hitting someone if ya get close to a head you can mag dumb and dead in full mag if you can get a command Id very easy best bet would be cmo their suit has like no deafening capability so one mag dead have fun testing and thanks for this video liltenhead you gave me funny idea
As now, the mosin is better than the hristov, if you are going to buy trash at least buy cheap trash.
Accurate
How hard would it be to make it so you can use the hristrov scope to zoom into targets off screen
So, thinking, but if the kardishev was SLIGHTLY better it would be op for its cost.
Like 1.5 aps and 15 bullets, and a working bayonet.
Viper aint gonna assasinate a qm in skaf armor and eplorer mask tho.
Who would win: a Deathsquad or a 20 man British fuckin’ firing line
hristov is the least viable weapon, I've only ever used it from a surplus crate once, I've got it 3 times but had to leave it due to its huge size. never seen anyone use it in game, apart from a video when it first came out. needs a re-tweak.
Will you ever review the tesla gun?
Technically magnum is the best gun to snowball with
1:40 Of course they did. lol
I was about to say I've never even seen a Cobra or a Hristov used, but realized probably for 2 different reasons... The cobra because it's silent, and the hristov because it's garbage lol
is that actually how you pronounce “niche” correctly? i honestly don’t know anymore 😭
neesh
Why is there no real assault rifle. the Sirius assault rifle from goon-station would be great.
please do antag stuff chems video
running out of ideas...
I don't think he's running out of ideas.
There's a pretty sizeable chunk of the game he hasn't covered, so this is just what he wants to talk about.
While this wasn't directly mentioned in the video, if I remember correctly you can actually reload the Viper for free using magazines stolen from Security - because the MK58 that secoffs spawn with also uses .35 Auto. Of course, that requires you to both kill a secoff and have time to loot the corpse before more arrive, but it's worth considering.
Also, buying an EMAG gets you access to TC-free ammo printing for anything except (if I remember correctly) the Hristov and Cobra so long as you have an autolathe and materials to feed it.
and finally, if you're specifically either a botanist or Salv, you can get effectively infinite Pythons for a major discount by finding/buying and then planting gatfruit seeds.
anyways this chain of little edits to my comment has gone on long enough, so I want to end it by saying that it would take about 4 traitors' worth of TC to arm an entire LRP server with Mosins.
You know, they really should make it so the sniper can wallbang... and it needs armor piercing