haha definitely... i remember reading an interview with Rivers. He mentioned that it took him a while to realize that he didn't have to sound like some kind of tough ass to sing in a rock band. Something along the lines of "I didn't know I could just sing with my regular voice, like I used to in the high school choir."
If my Weezer history serves correctly, this is from Weezer's third demo, often referred to as "The Real Demo". It was recorded at a converted garage in Hollywood "borrowed" by the band. At the time (Nov '92) this was considered the best-yet representation of the band despite the snares sound like what Karl describes as a tennis ball hitting a racket. I can't remember for the life of me what it was exactly recorded onto though.
I read somewhere that hearing a demo of this song is what convinced matt sharpe to move back down to LA and commit himself to playing in a band with Rivers. Do you think this was the version that he had heard? Or was this probably the version that they sent to Ric Ocasek (producer of the Blue album)?
@@pedromaiz88 This isn't the recording that convinced matt sharp to move to L.A. That move happened in March 1992. This track IS the third demo of this song; recorded in november of the same year (as said above) and was the version that they considered the best and sent around to labels. There was a second version recorded that is on the kitchen tapes that was recorded in the bands rehersal space (a garage) in august 1992
This sounds more edgy. Mustve been a tight call deciding between this and the version that made it onto the album. Amazing what a tempo change can do to the mood of a song
At the beginning, you can hear a little Korean spoken. This is another example of Rivers’ amp picking up Korean talk shows like it did in Falling for You
There's an ambiguity at the heart of this song.Teen angst, or something more? Why did the girl, whoever he's singing about, disappear? The line "wallet photograph" can easily be heard as "wanted photograph" suggesting a darker context. The contrast between the plucked acoustic and thrashed electric guitar emphasizes the duality. This is why the early Weezer was great.
Think of this song as a continuation of the story in "No one else" the previous song on the album. Because he was paranoid and jealous that someone would take his girl, he became controlling and this song is the aftermath of the breakup
Quite interesting. This is the third version of this song I listen to. The another one is from "opposite sides of the good old fence" which I think is highly epic cuz it sounds sadder and not so grungy... Then I hear this which is also fantastic, that solo adds a lot of power. I don't understand what Rivers was thinking when he applied all those changes till the final version, but I must admit I love them all.
@BurnedZero There’s also THIS demo version, from 1991. I think this is the first recording of the song ever made: ruclips.net/video/zMBmGymg6gw/видео.htmlsi=aRMuxXUvIAAM1ZQw
far too metal. I think No one else also used to have more intense shredding compared to the blue album version.The decision may have been an attempt to just not include gnarly solos on their album. Although Rivers originally wrote technical and well-played solos, they are pretty cheesy, to be frank. Like, 80s hair metal status. Although Rivers was a big metalhead before he started weezer, he was really trying to get away from that. By the time they recorded Blue, metal was deader than dead. It was a joke.
AHHH those kitchen tapes… Remember back when =w= was my favorite band. Don't know where from, but I dld loads of rarities, rehearsals and demos. Some songs that haven been seen in records. Love this cover btw, they all look like they're 12, except for Pat, he looks 14-ish LOL
Yeah...can really hear that different tone in "Thief, You've Taken All that was me" and that Sew your Pants together song....I like it..he has an arsenal of vocals behind him
In it's defense, Raditude has 'Put Me Back Together', which although not up there with any of the classics, is still a lovely little number. Albeit one that could easily be covered by Katy Perry.
did you see them around 10 years ago?? pure awesomness. Dont get me wrong, that band is gone now, but originally they were great. One of the best bands of the last 90s.
Rivers does something strange with his voice on these demos and other early Weezer recordings that I've not heard him do since, that Cobain-like push rendering the tone a bit gravely. I wonder if Ric Ocasek encouraged him to avoid doing this with his voice.
They did the solo, quite similar on the album, it's just a different set of chords behind the solo on this demo. On the album the riff behind the solo is the same as the rest of the song.
The world has turned and left me here Just where I was before you appeared And in your place an empty space Has filled the void behind my face I just made love with your sweet memory One thousand times in my head You said you loved it more than ever You said You remain turned away Turning further every day The world has turned and left me here Just where I was before you appeared And in your place an empty space Has filled the void behind my face I talked for hours to your wallet photograph And you just listened You laughed enchanted by my intellect Or maybe you didn't You remain turned away Turning further every day The world has turned and left me here Just where I was before you appeared And in your place an empty space Has filled the void behind my face You remain, turned away Turning further every day The world has turned and left me here Just where I was before you appeared And in your place, an empty space Has filled the void behind my face Do you believe what I sing now? Do you believe what I sing now? Do you believe? Do you believe what I sing now? Do you believe what I sing now? Do you believe?
This was from 2 years ago but I thought it was cool that you said "how do you even know rivers hates people with an opinion?" very valid question,sorry for being 2 years late
Ive heard people say pinkerton is the best one without really hearing it or without hearing all the other albums. Its hard to argue with pinkerton being one of their best records but it seems like alot of people have heard its cooler to like pinkerton over the others. Personally I dont think any of their albums are bad,well except raditude but thats just one out of 9 or 10,but to me they all have a classic sound which has been consistent
The first two albums are the best. That goes with a lot of bands. You're totally coming at his opinion from the wrong angle. Actually, you saying that everything after the first two albums is better, is extemely hypocritical with the whole point you're trying to make. I'm just happy the records exist, enjoy the music!!!
@flareagaman couldn't agree with you more. While the Blue album was more accessible, Pinkerton was just more raw rock. I knew I was going to like it right away from the intro "Tired of Sex" with the drawn out guitar notes and simple drumming...apparently the new album is supposed to be a lot more 'rock,' but only time will tell
Weezer has no ''worst'' album. They are all good, just in different orders of preference. I personally have Green as last in my list, and Raditude in 5th. But all of the albums are great in their own way.
I thought Red was okay. It would be better if some songs (Heart Songs, Everybody Get Dangerous, Cold Dark World, and Thought I Knew) were replaced with the bonus tracks from Red. If that had happened, Red would easily be my favorite after Blue and Pinkerton.
Pinkerton is now one of the most misunderstood albums of all time, and my favorite Weezer album. Seriously, I think it's more catching and less generic than the Blue album. Though the generic-ness of the Blue ablum is what makes it great.
Rivers Cobain
*cuobain
@@User-jk8wq lol
Yeah Nirvana was a heavy influence, and I dig that. Rivers has his own unique voice though.
haha definitely... i remember reading an interview with Rivers. He mentioned that it took him a while to realize that he didn't have to sound like some kind of tough ass to sing in a rock band. Something along the lines of "I didn't know I could just sing with my regular voice, like I used to in the high school choir."
that snare sounds like a gatorade bottle
I hear a cutting board
Wyatt Freels we all cant afford equpiment so we do the best we can with what we have.
sounds still better than the cooking pot on the album st. anger by 'tallica....
squash ball
it was the 90s
haha when he was still rocking the cobain obsessed edge to his voice
& Frank Black
If my Weezer history serves correctly, this is from Weezer's third demo, often referred to as "The Real Demo". It was recorded at a converted garage in Hollywood "borrowed" by the band. At the time (Nov '92) this was considered the best-yet representation of the band despite the snares sound like what Karl describes as a tennis ball hitting a racket. I can't remember for the life of me what it was exactly recorded onto though.
I read somewhere that hearing a demo of this song is what convinced matt sharpe to move back down to LA and commit himself to playing in a band with Rivers. Do you think this was the version that he had heard? Or was this probably the version that they sent to Ric Ocasek (producer of the Blue album)?
@@pedromaiz88 This isn't the recording that convinced matt sharp to move to L.A. That move happened in March 1992. This track IS the third demo of this song; recorded in november of the same year (as said above) and was the version that they considered the best and sent around to labels. There was a second version recorded that is on the kitchen tapes that was recorded in the bands rehersal space (a garage) in august 1992
@@jamezz41 cool! thanks for clearing that up!
I think that the snare drum sounds good
I genuinely love the snare sound on these demos, that's interesting btw about where the demos were recorded. So cool
This sounds more edgy. Mustve been a tight call deciding between this and the version that made it onto the album. Amazing what a tempo change can do to the mood of a song
I honestly prefer this to the final version. Being slower and slightly flat just does something for me
Holy crap..this demo rules!
21 years away and it's 2017. I'm still finding solace with this tune
Hope you're doing ok bro
At the beginning, you can hear a little Korean spoken. This is another example of Rivers’ amp picking up Korean talk shows like it did in Falling for You
Thats so sick, man
어는 회사작품이지요
what is it saying?
There's an ambiguity at the heart of this song.Teen angst, or something more? Why did the girl, whoever he's singing about, disappear? The line "wallet photograph" can easily be heard as "wanted photograph" suggesting a darker context. The contrast between the plucked acoustic and thrashed electric guitar emphasizes the duality. This is why the early Weezer was great.
Think of this song as a continuation of the story in "No one else" the previous song on the album. Because he was paranoid and jealous that someone would take his girl, he became controlling and this song is the aftermath of the breakup
You da man. 🙏
Quite interesting. This is the third version of this song I listen to. The another one is from "opposite sides of the good old fence" which I think is highly epic cuz it sounds sadder and not so grungy... Then I hear this which is also fantastic, that solo adds a lot of power. I don't understand what Rivers was thinking when he applied all those changes till the final version, but I must admit I love them all.
Sebastian Avila Alot of people think that this sounds a bit too much like a 90s cliche.
@BurnedZero There’s also THIS demo version, from 1991. I think this is the first recording of the song ever made: ruclips.net/video/zMBmGymg6gw/видео.htmlsi=aRMuxXUvIAAM1ZQw
This is by far my favorite song on the Blue Album.
And I LOVE this version.
So glad it is here, eh?
This song still lyrically uppercuts me. Forever beautiful.
Pinkerton and Blue were absolutely amazing, but let's not forget the mythical lost masterpiece that is Songs From the Black Hole.
Why didn't they keep that epic solo?
It's hell of a shame
far too metal. I think No one else also used to have more intense shredding compared to the blue album version.The decision may have been an attempt to just not include gnarly solos on their album. Although Rivers originally wrote technical and well-played solos, they are pretty cheesy, to be frank. Like, 80s hair metal status. Although Rivers was a big metalhead before he started weezer, he was really trying to get away from that. By the time they recorded Blue, metal was deader than dead. It was a joke.
AHHH those kitchen tapes… Remember back when =w= was my favorite band. Don't know where from, but I dld loads of rarities, rehearsals and demos. Some songs that haven been seen in records. Love this cover btw, they all look like they're 12, except for Pat, he looks 14-ish LOL
+Alejandro González López Love this cover? It's the demo version
+Trilogyfall cover...as in the album cover
+Trilogyfall "Love this cover btw, they all look like they're 12, except for Pat, he looks 14-ish"
@vladd121 This isn't a cover, this is Weezer back in 1993.
that solo is perfect
out of all the songs on the third demo, the "tennis racket" snare fits this best.
Yeah...can really hear that different tone in "Thief, You've Taken All that was me" and that Sew your Pants together song....I like it..he has an arsenal of vocals behind him
I'm a college burn-out that listens to Weezer. That is all...
In it's defense, Raditude has 'Put Me Back Together', which although not up there with any of the classics, is still a lovely little number. Albeit one that could easily be covered by Katy Perry.
kinda like helmet.
or similar heavy comtemporaries, even before the Blue album itself...
i love that snare sound
did you see them around 10 years ago?? pure awesomness. Dont get me wrong, that band is gone now, but originally they were great. One of the best bands of the last 90s.
The solo and drumming way better than the studio version
Yes rock Weezer kick ass!!
Rivers does something strange with his voice on these demos and other early Weezer recordings that I've not heard him do since, that Cobain-like push rendering the tone a bit gravely. I wonder if Ric Ocasek encouraged him to avoid doing this with his voice.
They did the solo, quite similar on the album, it's just a different set of chords behind the solo on this demo. On the album the riff behind the solo is the same as the rest of the song.
This song aged well.
couldnt believe my ears when i first heard this song. i have been telling myself this for years prior
The world has turned and left me here
Just where I was before you appeared
And in your place an empty space
Has filled the void behind my face
I just made love with your sweet memory
One thousand times in my head
You said you loved it more than ever
You said
You remain turned away
Turning further every day
The world has turned and left me here
Just where I was before you appeared
And in your place an empty space
Has filled the void behind my face
I talked for hours to your wallet photograph
And you just listened
You laughed enchanted by my intellect
Or maybe you didn't
You remain turned away
Turning further every day
The world has turned and left me here
Just where I was before you appeared
And in your place an empty space
Has filled the void behind my face
You remain, turned away
Turning further every day
The world has turned and left me here
Just where I was before you appeared
And in your place, an empty space
Has filled the void behind my face
Do you believe what I sing now?
Do you believe what I sing now?
Do you believe?
Do you believe what I sing now?
Do you believe what I sing now?
Do you believe?
is this car seat headrest
he didn't say anything about shoulders or beaches so no
I've always loved the solo on this demo... the vocal styling, not so much.
I think I just realized I have that dude's same shirt. The basist's shirt. Badass!
This was from 2 years ago but I thought it was cool that you said "how do you even know rivers hates people with an opinion?" very valid question,sorry for being 2 years late
gig-ee-an-tic!
annalisa shut up about it being a rip off when it is not.
Colin Clayton that's a bit aggressive ... i never said it was a rip-off, i was just remarking on the similarity! :) have a nice day
Can't find any similarity
@Auom 120 Swnasiqubulotosife they arent exactly the same they just have similar root notes
Ive heard people say pinkerton is the best one without really hearing it or without hearing all the other albums. Its hard to argue with pinkerton being one of their best records but it seems like alot of people have heard its cooler to like pinkerton over the others. Personally I dont think any of their albums are bad,well except raditude but thats just one out of 9 or 10,but to me they all have a classic sound which has been consistent
Beautiful
8. Raditude 7. Make Believe 6. Red 5. Hurley 4. Maladroit 3. Green 2. Blue 1. Pinkerton
absolutly amazing
st anger type-snare but this is still amazing
why is it so slow? am I high on freon or what main?
Both
Nice snare sound :) is that John Stanier on drums?
sounds kinda like jamie
yes, similar plodding time signature.
Yeah, the same chords are used
Ahh... Jamie my absolute favorite song. This one comes in close so it must be the similarity.
they changed just enough so they could keep it on youtube without the record company claiming copyright infringement
i think people are get billy (Smashing pumkins) mixed up with Kurt Cobain (nirvana)
Now why didn't they incorporate the Solo into the album version?
he did,i heard they asked brian if he could sing before they hired him since the other guy had done backing vocals also
The first two albums are the best. That goes with a lot of bands. You're totally coming at his opinion from the wrong angle. Actually, you saying that everything after the first two albums is better, is extemely hypocritical with the whole point you're trying to make. I'm just happy the records exist, enjoy the music!!!
Wow, I didn’t know it was the day before summer vacation at my medium 2002 suburban highschool
@flareagaman it's not generic, its honest
this is prime! Are there any tracks/albums that have the same vibe as this song?
Maladroit is a far more underrated album.
Maladroit is not good
@@mikebyj2310 Maladroit is awesome.
Thw album version is better but it miases the awesome guitar solo
@flareagaman couldn't agree with you more. While the Blue album was more accessible, Pinkerton was just more raw rock. I knew I was going to like it right away from the intro "Tired of Sex" with the drawn out guitar notes and simple drumming...apparently the new album is supposed to be a lot more 'rock,' but only time will tell
that's a heavy beat...
@TheSenileFeline Maladroit is a good album and its another Weezer album thats underrated. Don't get so butt hurt.
Weezer has no ''worst'' album. They are all good, just in different orders of preference. I personally have Green as last in my list, and Raditude in 5th. But all of the albums are great in their own way.
this statement aged like milk
oh my god
what is the sample in the beginning? "eat this, keep living"
The thing is though, underrated implies that it's good.
Make Believe...well, I'm sure you know. :P
this sounds like they recorded it in standard but slowed it down to be in in Eb
not sure, but somewhere i read that they would add extra distortion by doing something to the tape itself, not sure if it applies to this
i reeally like the solo here
@SuperMegabar
It's most likely Jason Cropper, the old guitarist.
It do be hittin'
Is this Nirvana?
Nope it's Weezer
no, this is patrick
@patrickvideos11 the quality of an album isn't defined by how much money it makes, that's why.
"but god damn someone punch rivers in the face" LMAO. don't we all wish that could happen.
No. No we don't.
@vladd121 This is just a demo.... It's their song
try speed 1.25 it sounds like the normal one
OK ? what rolling stone issue did you plagerize that from ?
@44racerangels182 I always thought of the red as a half decent album and far better than ratitude
the old weezer are more best than the new weezer. Blue Album and Pinkerton their best albums.
15 years too late, this should have been the official version
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Is this Cropper doing the background vocals??
Yes.
@ToxicKlay care to back up this statement now that it's been released?
? theres 3 demos to this song
I thought Red was okay. It would be better if some songs (Heart Songs, Everybody Get Dangerous, Cold Dark World, and Thought I Knew) were replaced with the bonus tracks from Red. If that had happened, Red would easily be my favorite after Blue and Pinkerton.
@flareagaman did you know that was named the worst album of 96'... i fliped cause it's a great album.
Love it mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Pinkerton is now one of the most misunderstood albums of all time, and my favorite Weezer album.
Seriously, I think it's more catching and less generic than the Blue album. Though the generic-ness of the Blue ablum is what makes it great.
@flareagaman I wish I could thumb that up a hundred times.
do you belive what I sing now?
kitchen tapes ftw
@TheSenileFeline
dope nose is a good song
Fuck yeah party
@TNTIV well Rolling Stone's Magazine named it the worst.
love that snare
and where the fuck did u get that demo?
Armed Coders They released a special edition of Blue with these tracks from the original demo
This isn't from Pinkerton...
hurraytheist No shit.
@@socialreject7962the comment was presumably responding to another comment since back then you couldn’t directly reply to another user
holy fuck listen to that SOLO!
@afriedman174 beautiful post
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Everyone calm the shit down, Raditude is gonna kick ass
so true
How is that? Really? How is that possible? Mad.
Jason Cropper rocks that solo
I'm pretty sure it's still Rivers playing the solo
Nope that's cropper
DarkFreedom hey man rivers is the lead guitarist
Sounds a lil like the Smashing Pumpkins doesnt it.
@TheSenileFeline Maladroit?