I just wanted to say that I truly appreciate that your guests recorded their webcams and that you took the time to edit them into your original interview recording. Wish more creators would take the time to make their video podcasts look just as professional as yours.
Brian! That was AWESOME. I'm a bit speechless that you were able to wrangle these 2 guys for such an in-depth interview. This gave me a much MUCH larger appreciation for Apple tech (not that I didn't already) and for where things are headed. The features integrated with AirPods Pro are unmatched in quality in our industry and only getting better. Can't wait to see more interviews like this. On another note, I have the latest APPro2 (lightning) and it doesn't seem like there's any reason to upgrade to the USBC version. It would be great if they could adopt the better BT5 in with other existing products like the iPhone and MacBooks... and give a reason to upgrade. Also, I did try the conversational awareness but it was a bit off-putting to me... so I turned it off. Maybe I just need to get used to it? I dunno... part of me feels like the video/music I'm watching/listening to should pause instead of having the audio duck down. It didn't seem natural what was going on for me. It also seemed too slow for me when it ducked down and I wanted the volume to come back quicker--perhaps that is something I'd like to see changed.
Yeah I agree. I just tried it and think it should definitely pause media like Apple Maps does when playing podcasts. Otherwise I find myself rewinding what I missed
Great interview! Love the nuggets and background of the product and research. The attention to detail and all of the things thought about are appreciated, Apple! Also must say -- Apple could've held back this software for a v3, but didn't. Really great value for an already-fantastic product!
This is exactly what we needed, really interesting, really nerdy and I like all this details on how actually our daily products work and operate to improve our life, really great conversation here. Thumb up, and I hope you’ll do more with these guys for the future products coming 👍🏼
I love my AirPod pros 2 with usbc but listening to this podcast with them on just made me realize how bad the audio still is compared to wired headphones. When Apple fixes that these things will be perfect with a few more software updates( which I do appreciate that they roll out pretty often)
I would like to see a bubble mode. This would be when you are traveling with someone on a plane, for instance, and your travel partner are able to communicate via your IPods and have noise cancelation enabled.
Good to know why lossless audio works only with the USB-C version. Apparently they don’t use bluetooth since that doesn’t run 5GHz. Unfortunate they didn’t put a 5GHz radio in the Lightning version.
@@everythingsharpcheck your audio quality settings in Apple Music. I have mine working after changing cell streaming to lossless audio and it’s working for some songs but not all
Awesome interview! It is good to get an insight into their thoughts. Did you happen to ask why Apple didn’t do a AirPods case trade in/exchange program for those who just bought the iPhone 15 series and want to switch their AirPods to USB-C without buying a whole new pair? I even bought Apple care thinking that maybe I could do it that way but nope
As ever, a great video Brian! You are the best Apple! Interesting to note in the comments the apparent disconnect between the Apple insider hype - esp regards conversational awareness, etc - and user experience. I hope Apple are listening and continue to work on and improve the software so that this gap is significantly and quickly narrowed!
I was excited that conversational awareness would disable when using lyrics in the Apple Music app. I went try it immediately and can report that the volume still turned down when I was singing along. Maybe that is a new OS feature?
Small Feedback : Conversation awareness needs some big Fixes , i love the new feature but sometimes i start to sing the song while using this mode and guess what, my music volume drops coz Airpods think im talking to someone , they are way too sensitive to my voice even if i say something very quiet it picks it up !!
*Agreed*. They need to introduce another option for conversation awareness. Apple can integrate voice isolation that will pick up only our voice, excluding others. So, for conversation awareness, there should be an option that activates when *someone else* speaks to *us*. Typically, if I have headphones in, someone else will initiate a conversation with *me*. If I want to start a conversation while wearing my headphones, I'd prefer the audio to pause entirely and for the AirPods to disable noise cancellation until *I press play* again. People sometimes need a moment to process what's been said, so I wouldn't want the music to keep toggling on and off during our chat. Apple could begin with recognizing common greetings for a quicker update and expand from there.
The first time I used my AirPods Pro (A2084) iOS 17.0 installed I was prompted to “say Hey Siri, I’m using my AirPods”. I didn’t say anything. Maybe next time. This is a great interview. 👍🏻
Excellent interview! Now... with Apple Vision Pro, I'm just waiting for the prices to drop for it to appear in Malaysia. Coz... we never get much expensive gear until it becomes cheaper in my country. I'll be patient.
The questions need more fleshing out. There’s a bit too much banter, and leading the guests by the hand. I’d like to see a little more round table, and a dash more crossfire. Overall, the fact that you could get execs from Apple to come on for interviews is phenomenal. Keep it up.
Hello, will Conversation Awareness and Adaptive Audio work if using the Airpod Pro 2 with an Android device? I think the answer is no but just want to confirm. For what it's worth, I can set it up using my wife's iPhone. But will those features work with Android after the initial setup?
With Apple hoping that people will use the AirPods *all* the time, there's one technical issue they need to improve on: battery-life I realize that has to be very challenging to do in a product that is so tiny, but it's a major reason I don't have AirPods. Great interview, btw.
Well bro tws earbuds are shutting down because of low demand and it may shut down because in future when ar and vr will replace mobile phones there is gonna be no tws earbuds for ar and vr what do you think please reply
I totally enjoyed this conversation! Hey are we going to get lossless audio on the iPhone 15 Pro with the new usb-c AirPods Pro 2, perhaps in a future software update?
There is a part where O asked about it on future hardware but they made it sound like the H2 is really more geared towards audio devices and NOT Mac or iPhone...at least for now.
@@briantong Seems like if they added 5GHz to the iPhone Bluetooth chip we would have lossless with the usb-c AirPods Pro 2… but did they, or will it come in the iPhone 16? They definitely have the tech, now the question is when will it come to iPhone, AppleTV, etc. Of course they might not be at liberty to say 😅 Great job on getting that info about the 5GHz connection, you’re the first channel I heard that on!
There is no 5Ghz Bluetooth. It has to be something else, e.g. Wi-Fi or something entirely proprietary. They’ve cleared added a 5Ghz radio to the revised H2 but it can’t be Bluetooth unless they’ve got a world exclusive on a future version of Bluetooth… and that would be huge news. Anything they do with any radio frequency must be publicly declared. 5Ghz is primarily reserved for Wi-Fi. I’d need to research to discover if any other protocols are approved to use it. It depends what they’re doing… saying the H2 specialises in audio and somehow that prevents the tech in the current iPhone from also doing it, doesn’t make sense. Digital Audio is still 1’s and 0’s. I can’t believe they’d only deliver lossless on the Vision Pro. That’s too niche. We’re crying out for it on everything else.
@@mcnaugha However we call it, the tech is definitely there if they can get the Vision Pro to do lossless with the AirPods Pro 2. The question then is, is the iPhone 15 Pro already hardware capable for it, waiting to be turned on by software, or are we gonna have to wait for the 16 for it? And what other devices have it/will have it? I mean, if they can fit that tech into the AirPods Pro, surely they can fit it into an iPhone, right?
I have a question... both the lightning and USB-C versions have the H2 Bluetooth chip right? ...and it's the same chip, but only the USB-C version will run 5GHz for lossless right? Is that because there is physical hardware in the USB-C version, or is it because it's running different firmware (USB-C: 6A300 v Lightning: 6A301)? If it's just a firmware difference, could the Lightning version be upgraded to run lossless?
@@briantong You sure? They didnt actually say that in the interview. You said it and they didnt correct you, but they didnt confirm it either. At 28:07 Ron said "only the USB-C version is 5GHz capable" ...he didnt say whether that was because of hardware differences or firmware limitations. Thanks for the reply. :)
I think it’s a hardware related limitation so. They cannot give every detail about it, and I’m a bit surprised they’ve gone far in the details saying what frenquecy range they’ll operate, cause it gives insights for other companies about it et give them time to study this for their upcoming products, and Apple said they’ll give more details about it only in the coming months. It’s for sure not Bluetooth at this frequency range, they’ve not upgraded the chip itself but I think the antennas inside to support this range
@@aminosmz I dunno, there is a video of the old version of the airpods pro being taken apart and I cant see what they could add or change? There is the battery, the microphone in the end of the stem, the antenna in the stem, the acoustic hardware, the touch sensitive stuff and switches and the H2 chip. If they have different guts it must be a new antenna in the stem. I'm sure other manufacturers have already reverse engineered them. I think the secret sauce is the H2 chip and I think that is the same aside from the firmware. I guess we'll find out in the fullness of time.
At the beginning the host voice quality is good, guests voice quality is distorted, and later on host voice quality is also distorted. Is this how Pro 2 microphones really sound?
After upgrading to airpods pro2.. I now cant connect to my Samsung TV. How can apple not factor in this with a new product launch . Avitpods Pro 2 critically less functionality
I do have a question about the $8000 worth of music that I purchased through iTunes and how every year I have to get somebody’s supervisor supervisor on the phone with me for two weeks to find that music in my computer. The songs disappear from my phone regularly, so I have less than half of what I purchased on that deviceavailable to me. So what’s happening is they are essentially stealing my music back. Please help me figure this out as I don’t wanna go on a monthly subscription as I already own $8000 worth of music. Thanks so much.
Ive worn every airpods pro model for about 6 years until last week - my workplace banned earbuds :-( I also only use in 1 ear so 1 ear is still open and they still say no. its sad they clamp down rules when they dont understand the technology and how good these are and helpful with handsfree siri tasks etc. i'm quite gutted about it. I wish there was a law that could fight back against this and give us our right to use them back.
Bro, maybe I had a mic and there was a technical issue. It happens. Luckily there was backup audio otherwise this interview doesn't see the light of day.
I just wanted to say that I truly appreciate that your guests recorded their webcams and that you took the time to edit them into your original interview recording. Wish more creators would take the time to make their video podcasts look just as professional as yours.
Thanks for noticing this! I really want to bring the best experience I can to you all! Thanks for watching!
Apple is full of really interesting and smart people
However, Eric Treski - Director of Product Marketing spoke some at the onset, then just smiled in an odd way the rest of the video.
Attracts the best people
Good job Brian! Apple should hire you!🍎
What an amazing video. Love it. 😍
Brian! That was AWESOME. I'm a bit speechless that you were able to wrangle these 2 guys for such an in-depth interview. This gave me a much MUCH larger appreciation for Apple tech (not that I didn't already) and for where things are headed. The features integrated with AirPods Pro are unmatched in quality in our industry and only getting better. Can't wait to see more interviews like this.
On another note, I have the latest APPro2 (lightning) and it doesn't seem like there's any reason to upgrade to the USBC version. It would be great if they could adopt the better BT5 in with other existing products like the iPhone and MacBooks... and give a reason to upgrade.
Also, I did try the conversational awareness but it was a bit off-putting to me... so I turned it off. Maybe I just need to get used to it? I dunno... part of me feels like the video/music I'm watching/listening to should pause instead of having the audio duck down. It didn't seem natural what was going on for me. It also seemed too slow for me when it ducked down and I wanted the volume to come back quicker--perhaps that is something I'd like to see changed.
Agreed, I also turned off all the new things on iOS 17.
Yeah I agree. I just tried it and think it should definitely pause media like Apple Maps does when playing podcasts. Otherwise I find myself rewinding what I missed
Did you watch the video? Music will duck down but videos and podcasts pause.
It’s amazes me how they managed to escape some questions, so smooth 😂
Great interview! Love the nuggets and background of the product and research. The attention to detail and all of the things thought about are appreciated, Apple! Also must say -- Apple could've held back this software for a v3, but didn't. Really great value for an already-fantastic product!
This is exactly what we needed, really interesting, really nerdy and I like all this details on how actually our daily products work and operate to improve our life, really great conversation here. Thumb up, and I hope you’ll do more with these guys for the future products coming 👍🏼
Deep dive discussion was great! Thank you for moderating through it Brian. Informative.
Looks like you all go to the same stylist 😂 15:35
I have a pair and I love them! I no longer struggle ro hear conversations at parties. It's wonderful. Thank you Apple!
Good stuff, Brian. I'd love to see you do more interviews.
I love my AirPod pros 2 with usbc but listening to this podcast with them on just made me realize how bad the audio still is compared to wired headphones. When Apple fixes that these things will be perfect with a few more software updates( which I do appreciate that they roll out pretty often)
Another amazing video. Mine are coming tomorrow cuz I always gotta have the newest lol
Thanks for the interview. I just set this up on my AP Pros 2 last night. I haven’t had a chance to really try them.
That was fun, great interview Brian!
I would like to see a bubble mode. This would be when you are traveling with someone on a plane, for instance, and your travel partner are able to communicate via your IPods and have noise cancelation enabled.
This would be epic!
I’m just getting around to listening to this due to a comment while buying Bose QC headphones. This is fantastic.
Good morning Brian !! 🎉Amazing video on AirPods Pro II!
Great interview! I was surprised you got actual Apple execs. Wow.
Thanks Tony, it was months in the making. These things just don't happen.
Good to know why lossless audio works only with the USB-C version. Apparently they don’t use bluetooth since that doesn’t run 5GHz. Unfortunate they didn’t put a 5GHz radio in the Lightning version.
So then why can’t listen to lossless audio on the iPhone with apple music
@@everythingsharpcheck your audio quality settings in Apple Music. I have mine working after changing cell streaming to lossless audio and it’s working for some songs but not all
Good interview Brian!
Definitely asking the questions I wanted to hear the answer to. Even though they danced around it a little 😂
You know, I am blown away by the new Airpods pro 2 that I received with USBC. They sound amazing. Thanks Apple!! Video was fantastic!!!!
For a sec I thought adaptive was usb c version only, but confirmed it is for both 2nd gen AP Pros on the support page
Oh, didn’t know that, thanks for clarifying ! 👦🏻👍🏻
Yes updating to iOS 17 brings adaptive audio. It’s like a mix of ANC and transparency mode. Pretty impressive.
This is neat!! Loved the interview!
This was fun and hopeful for the future of AirPods
Awesome interview! It is good to get an insight into their thoughts. Did you happen to ask why Apple didn’t do a AirPods case trade in/exchange program for those who just bought the iPhone 15 series and want to switch their AirPods to USB-C without buying a whole new pair? I even bought Apple care thinking that maybe I could do it that way but nope
I use my AirPods Pro’s for loud sporting events and concerts. It would love to hear talk of that use case.
This is a great interview! It's good to see someone from Apple who actually makes the magic a reality! *Takes a shot for saying magic* 🍹🤪
Good job Brian! Apple should hire you!🍎
As ever, a great video Brian! You are the best Apple! Interesting to note in the comments the apparent disconnect between the Apple insider hype - esp regards conversational awareness, etc - and user experience. I hope Apple are listening and continue to work on and improve the software so that this gap is significantly and quickly narrowed!
Wow! All of this knowledge makes me realize the reason I am seeing more and more folks with AirPods in their ear while driving!!!
Great content. Love this style of content
I have a pair here in Australia there great connected to a 27" iMac.
So, the iPhone 15 Pro Max has an H2 chip. Does this mean that it can potentially do lossless? Like, that's what I want to know.
I was excited that conversational awareness would disable when using lyrics in the Apple Music app. I went try it immediately and can report that the volume still turned down when I was singing along.
Maybe that is a new OS feature?
Small Feedback : Conversation awareness needs some big Fixes , i love the new feature but sometimes i start to sing the song while using this mode and guess what, my music volume drops coz Airpods think im talking to someone , they are way too sensitive to my voice even if i say something very quiet it picks it up !!
*Agreed*. They need to introduce another option for conversation awareness.
Apple can integrate voice isolation that will pick up only our voice, excluding others. So, for conversation awareness, there should be an option that activates when *someone else* speaks to *us*.
Typically, if I have headphones in, someone else will initiate a conversation with *me*.
If I want to start a conversation while wearing my headphones, I'd prefer the audio to pause entirely and for the AirPods to disable noise cancellation until *I press play* again. People sometimes need a moment to process what's been said, so I wouldn't want the music to keep toggling on and off during our chat.
Apple could begin with recognizing common greetings for a quicker update and expand from there.
The first time I used my AirPods Pro (A2084) iOS 17.0 installed I was prompted to “say Hey Siri, I’m using my AirPods”. I didn’t say anything. Maybe next time. This is a great interview. 👍🏻
I love everything about apple man
Excellent interview! Now... with Apple Vision Pro, I'm just waiting for the prices to drop for it to appear in Malaysia. Coz... we never get much expensive gear until it becomes cheaper in my country. I'll be patient.
Maybe lossless can be put inside the iphone 16 Pro
so only real upgrade on usbc ipods is 5ghz which is not yet supported?
The questions need more fleshing out. There’s a bit too much banter, and leading the guests by the hand. I’d like to see a little more round table, and a dash more crossfire. Overall, the fact that you could get execs from Apple to come on for interviews is phenomenal. Keep it up.
You're right. They just revealed multiple exclusive pieces of information that hasn't been published anywhere.
Hello, will Conversation Awareness and Adaptive Audio work if using the Airpod Pro 2 with an Android device? I think the answer is no but just want to confirm. For what it's worth, I can set it up using my wife's iPhone. But will those features work with Android after the initial setup?
With Apple hoping that people will use the AirPods *all* the time, there's one technical issue they need to improve on: battery-life
I realize that has to be very challenging to do in a product that is so tiny, but it's a major reason I don't have AirPods.
Great interview, btw.
Well bro tws earbuds are shutting down because of low demand and it may shut down because in future when ar and vr will replace mobile phones there is gonna be no tws earbuds for ar and vr what do you think please reply
I totally enjoyed this conversation! Hey are we going to get lossless audio on the iPhone 15 Pro with the new usb-c AirPods Pro 2, perhaps in a future software update?
There is a part where O asked about it on future hardware but they made it sound like the H2 is really more geared towards audio devices and NOT Mac or iPhone...at least for now.
@@briantong Seems like if they added 5GHz to the iPhone Bluetooth chip we would have lossless with the usb-c AirPods Pro 2… but did they, or will it come in the iPhone 16? They definitely have the tech, now the question is when will it come to iPhone, AppleTV, etc. Of course they might not be at liberty to say 😅 Great job on getting that info about the 5GHz connection, you’re the first channel I heard that on!
There is no 5Ghz Bluetooth. It has to be something else, e.g. Wi-Fi or something entirely proprietary. They’ve cleared added a 5Ghz radio to the revised H2 but it can’t be Bluetooth unless they’ve got a world exclusive on a future version of Bluetooth… and that would be huge news. Anything they do with any radio frequency must be publicly declared. 5Ghz is primarily reserved for Wi-Fi. I’d need to research to discover if any other protocols are approved to use it.
It depends what they’re doing… saying the H2 specialises in audio and somehow that prevents the tech in the current iPhone from also doing it, doesn’t make sense. Digital Audio is still 1’s and 0’s. I can’t believe they’d only deliver lossless on the Vision Pro. That’s too niche. We’re crying out for it on everything else.
@@mcnaugha However we call it, the tech is definitely there if they can get the Vision Pro to do lossless with the AirPods Pro 2. The question then is, is the iPhone 15 Pro already hardware capable for it, waiting to be turned on by software, or are we gonna have to wait for the 16 for it? And what other devices have it/will have it? I mean, if they can fit that tech into the AirPods Pro, surely they can fit it into an iPhone, right?
now thats a GOOD APPLE!
Non answer as to lossless on the iPhone. AirPods Max 2 will need to have lossless and I doubt lossless will be limited to Vision Pro for long.
They built a custom Bluetooth multi-point solution that dynamically guesses what the secondary device should be. Insane
Great interview!
I use Airpod's Pro 2 everyday and I have over 5 of them for different things.
They really have improved the quality of my life.
I have a question... both the lightning and USB-C versions have the H2 Bluetooth chip right? ...and it's the same chip, but only the USB-C version will run 5GHz for lossless right? Is that because there is physical hardware in the USB-C version, or is it because it's running different firmware (USB-C: 6A300 v Lightning: 6A301)? If it's just a firmware difference, could the Lightning version be upgraded to run lossless?
It's a hardware limitation.
@@briantong You sure? They didnt actually say that in the interview. You said it and they didnt correct you, but they didnt confirm it either. At 28:07 Ron said "only the USB-C version is 5GHz capable" ...he didnt say whether that was because of hardware differences or firmware limitations. Thanks for the reply. :)
I think it’s a hardware related limitation so. They cannot give every detail about it, and I’m a bit surprised they’ve gone far in the details saying what frenquecy range they’ll operate, cause it gives insights for other companies about it et give them time to study this for their upcoming products, and Apple said they’ll give more details about it only in the coming months. It’s for sure not Bluetooth at this frequency range, they’ve not upgraded the chip itself but I think the antennas inside to support this range
@@aminosmz I dunno, there is a video of the old version of the airpods pro being taken apart and I cant see what they could add or change? There is the battery, the microphone in the end of the stem, the antenna in the stem, the acoustic hardware, the touch sensitive stuff and switches and the H2 chip. If they have different guts it must be a new antenna in the stem. I'm sure other manufacturers have already reverse engineered them. I think the secret sauce is the H2 chip and I think that is the same aside from the firmware. I guess we'll find out in the fullness of time.
At the beginning the host voice quality is good, guests voice quality is distorted, and later on host voice quality is also distorted. Is this how Pro 2 microphones really sound?
I had mic issues, but luckily the backup was still there.
Brian you can change my socks. Your questions are very very sneaky.
Brian looks like what would happen if both guys had a baby....
😂😂😂 This comment made my day.
I’ve tried with lyrics on in Apple Music and started to sing, the conversations awareness somehow still kicks in. Hmmm..
you have to click on the “sing” mic in the Music app
So when are we getting a 5gHz iphone for lossless compatibility????
After upgrading to airpods pro2.. I now cant connect to my Samsung TV. How can apple not factor in this with a new product launch . Avitpods Pro 2 critically less functionality
Brian have to found that adaptive audio drains your pro 2s faster than just having noise cancellation?
how about the possibility to unscrew the bottom and put new batteries in?
now that would be magical
so iphone 15 pro’s H2 doesn’t even support 5ghz?
iPhone 15 Pro doesn't even have an H2 in it. He said it's geared more towards use in audio devices
I do have a question about the $8000 worth of music that I purchased through iTunes and how every year I have to get somebody’s supervisor supervisor on the phone with me for two weeks to find that music in my computer. The songs disappear from my phone regularly, so I have less than half of what I purchased on that deviceavailable to me. So what’s happening is they are essentially stealing my music back. Please help me figure this out as I don’t wanna go on a monthly subscription as I already own $8000 worth of music. Thanks so much.
Sell your music😂 just/k download those songs to your cloud or phone of your face the space
Air pods pro Type c is 3k INR high than lightning so what to do
Ive worn every airpods pro model for about 6 years until last week - my workplace banned earbuds :-( I also only use in 1 ear so 1 ear is still open and they still say no. its sad they clamp down rules when they dont understand the technology and how good these are and helpful with handsfree siri tasks etc. i'm quite gutted about it. I wish there was a law that could fight back against this and give us our right to use them back.
I use mine as a hearing aids. Anybody else do this?
Does it only work if you have SHORT SPIKY HAIR?
😂😂😂
all of these guys basically have the same hair
They seem to be fully drunk on the Apple corporate Kool Aid.
bro please get mics
Bro, maybe I had a mic and there was a technical issue. It happens. Luckily there was backup audio otherwise this interview doesn't see the light of day.
Omg the lighting and 4K clarity at Apple offices is really unforgiving. The guy on the right looked much better in the wwdc video
Only if we no longer subscribe to apple music everything is "lossless". Apple does what it wants.
It's really sad what's become of apple sadly
Bait
@@AnonN-sr6uu what do you mean