I absolutely love my Blackforest Treeless Shasta and so does my horse. It also amazes me how completely comfortable I am in it no matter how long the trail ride, even after my severe injuries from being hit by a car while walking years ago. Thank you for creating great saddles for horses and riders. 🥰♥️
@@WhiteKitta I don't need to decide, I have been riding Treeless for over 10 years and my horses back is in excellent shape. In fact my horse backs away from me if i approach with treed saddles but stands happily for the Treeless. I always listen to my horse. In saying that too i am very conscious of how much weight he carries and watch my own weight, I have mostly weighted 115lbs but right now I am 120 lbs . A rider should always consider the weight a horse has to carry no matter the type of saddles they choose and generally speaking horses should not carry more than 20% of their weight for extended periods, this weight must include the weight of tack and rider. I did watch the video and her explanation of Treeless saddles was uneducated and ridiculous. Almost all Endurance riders here in Canada ride Treeless and they ride up to 50 Km in a day. Cheaply made knock off Treeless saddles on Amazon might fit the description of your video, but not properly made authentic Treeless saddles from reputable companies like Bob Marshall, Black Forest, Barefoot, Ghost, etc. All these companies have specialized pads to go with each saddle and provide proper spinal clearance and balance. I just bought my 3rd Treeless saddle and pad for Christmas this year, a Barefoot Madrid and I am super excited.
I’ve always ridden in a treeless saddle when I’ve had my own personal horse. I do this because I prefer the closer contact, I feel I don’t feel my horse properly in a treed saddle. But this was a bit of a problem with my previous horse, who had high withers, and even with pads and the saddle I could still feel his spine, which means he felt me sitting in his spine. Fast forward to now, I have a young Appaloosa who is filling out and will have a nice round back. He is almost three, and I’ve never educated a young horse before from scratch. I have no intention of showing or competing him but I’d like him to be educated in the paces and have some refinement. I’ve been lead to believe that treeless saddles are bad for a horse’s back, but after listening to you I’m now wondering if I could actually school him in my treeless saddle. I ride him around and stuff but we haven’t started on the paces. And I thought maybe a post trot would be too hard on his back in a treeless saddle. Im shopping for a treed saddle but frankly it’s very difficult and stressful. I’d appreciate your thoughts ☺️cheers
What a load of bunkum....a decent treed saddle will be made on a tree that fits the shape of the horse - we don't just ride in a saddle that doesn't fit the horse. Unfortunately the old analogy of the clog is probably the most ridiculous one ever as the clog was designed to be used all day by people in agriculture, factories and mines and remained unchanged for centuries - don't you think they would have been rejected if they didn't work?
He’s talking about poorly fitting trees. A properly fit tree doesn’t only touch on four corners, the bars all rest on the horses back. So is the treeless better than a proper trees saddle or just bad ones? And then the example of the pony express, that was bad practice, not proof of whether a tree works well or not. Sounds like a sales pitch.
on my new treeless western saddle hilason.com/hilason-treeless-western-trail-barrel-racing-horse-riding-saddle.html I want to use a non slip pad www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01G1KGTJI/ref=ox_sc_act_title_7?ie=UTF8&smid=A3PCHGX78VTID9&th=1 should i use a mid riser or a rear riser to help keep me off my horses spine ? thank you very much ?
I absolutely love my Blackforest Treeless Shasta and so does my horse. It also amazes me how completely comfortable I am in it no matter how long the trail ride, even after my severe injuries from being hit by a car while walking years ago. Thank you for creating great saddles for horses and riders. 🥰♥️
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@@WhiteKitta I don't need to decide, I have been riding Treeless for over 10 years and my horses back is in excellent shape. In fact my horse backs away from me if i approach with treed saddles but stands happily for the Treeless. I always listen to my horse. In saying that too i am very conscious of how much weight he carries and watch my own weight, I have mostly weighted 115lbs but right now I am 120 lbs . A rider should always consider the weight a horse has to carry no matter the type of saddles they choose and generally speaking horses should not carry more than 20% of their weight for extended periods, this weight must include the weight of tack and rider. I did watch the video and her explanation of Treeless saddles was uneducated and ridiculous. Almost all Endurance riders here in Canada ride Treeless and they ride up to 50 Km in a day. Cheaply made knock off Treeless saddles on Amazon might fit the description of your video, but not properly made authentic Treeless saddles from reputable companies like Bob Marshall, Black Forest, Barefoot, Ghost, etc. All these companies have specialized pads to go with each saddle and provide proper spinal clearance and balance. I just bought my 3rd Treeless saddle and pad for Christmas this year, a Barefoot Madrid and I am super excited.
I’ve always ridden in a treeless saddle when I’ve had my own personal horse. I do this because I prefer the closer contact, I feel I don’t feel my horse properly in a treed saddle. But this was a bit of a problem with my previous horse, who had high withers, and even with pads and the saddle I could still feel his spine, which means he felt me sitting in his spine. Fast forward to now, I have a young Appaloosa who is filling out and will have a nice round back. He is almost three, and I’ve never educated a young horse before from scratch. I have no intention of showing or competing him but I’d like him to be educated in the paces and have some refinement. I’ve been lead to believe that treeless saddles are bad for a horse’s back, but after listening to you I’m now wondering if I could actually school him in my treeless saddle. I ride him around and stuff but we haven’t started on the paces. And I thought maybe a post trot would be too hard on his back in a treeless saddle. Im shopping for a treed saddle but frankly it’s very difficult and stressful. I’d appreciate your thoughts ☺️cheers
The Gauchos in South America have been useing treeless saddles for centuries.
I don’t think that’s accurate, what kind of saddle do they use?
What a load of bunkum....a decent treed saddle will be made on a tree that fits the shape of the horse - we don't just ride in a saddle that doesn't fit the horse. Unfortunately the old analogy of the clog is probably the most ridiculous one ever as the clog was designed to be used all day by people in agriculture, factories and mines and remained unchanged for centuries - don't you think they would have been rejected if they didn't work?
Yeah he had to straw man treed saddles in order to compare his.
He’s talking about poorly fitting trees. A properly fit tree doesn’t only touch on four corners, the bars all rest on the horses back.
So is the treeless better than a proper trees saddle or just bad ones?
And then the example of the pony express, that was bad practice, not proof of whether a tree works well or not.
Sounds like a sales pitch.
on my new treeless western saddle hilason.com/hilason-treeless-western-trail-barrel-racing-horse-riding-saddle.html I want to use a non slip pad www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01G1KGTJI/ref=ox_sc_act_title_7?ie=UTF8&smid=A3PCHGX78VTID9&th=1 should i use a mid riser or a rear riser to help keep me off my horses spine ? thank you very much ?