Mapumba Cilombo (Bonus) - "Make It A Smaller World"

This week, we're taking a little break from our regular half-hour episodes, to throw a little outtake into the mix. Marina Gattás and Martin Oetting - your hosts here on Express Change - have found that sometimes, the tables get turned: Our guests ask them something. In the regular episodes, we tend to edit these bits out - our focus is on the guests, not on the hosts. But every once in a while, it does lead to unexpected results. Our conversation with Mapumba Cilombo in episode three is an example of that. Here are a few minutes from parts of that conversation that ended up on the cutting-room floor. We hope you'll enjoy this.
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Express Change is hosted and produced by Marina Gattás and Martin Oetting, with the team at the Wellbeing Economy Alliance. Find out more at weall.org and martinoetting.com