Another belter lads. You're in uncharted territory for me now - never followed it that far north - but your frequent map shots help me to get my bearings. Love the old pix too! 👍
Hi Paul fab video as usual, yes Harpur Hill intriguing & interesting was extremely busy with trains back in the day, Shows up nicely where you are on the ariel maps. Lovely old bridges & old trackbed to walk along. Cheers Paul. ❤🥰👍
Very enjoyable. The "tunnel" built on the HSE site was used for mine research, the NCB used it for many projects. A 3'-0" gauge railway ran through the tunnel with a small diesel locomotive running on it.
This area has changed so much over the years Paul, it's a little difficult to know what was original and what isn't now!. At 3:27, where that brick parapet is above the entrance to the tunnel complex, there was never any tin frontage originally, there was just steel doors, and a brick sentry hut at the left hand side. It was all sealed off the area, with high concrete posts, netting, with barbed wire on top, until the early '60s. It was then Air Ministry property still. When it opened up in 1964 it belonged to Wrington Vale Nurseries from Somerset who had it as a very, very, large mushroom farm. That finished some time in the '70s, and it became a massive storage complex for different companies. There was still limestone kilns in existence just around the corner up until the 70s, those shown on your old map. Further on this line towards Ladnanlow, there was originally only one overbridge to what is now HSE. (I've a relative that works there, by the way).What is now HSE, was originally the Safety in Mines Research Establishment, with the University Of Sheffield having laboratories as well next to their site. It's a very secure area, I might tell you! Next to that complex the RAF had buildings until about the early 60s, but I don't know if any still remain. That bridge, the old brick one, 8:47, was the only crossing to those places, the later ones, I've no idea when they were put there. That tunnel at 13:16 was another storage one I think, and had a sign outside it with DANGER - ATOMIC RADIATION ON IT - no word of a lie!, because the public footpath to the hamlet of farms called Brandside went right past it. At 12:23, that long concrete surface tunnel with the railings on top, and on the alignment of the old course of the railway was built in 1963 for blasting purposes, something to do with mine explosion testing. It was built with extremely intense re-inforced concrete. Back to the late alignment where the crash barrierrs are now on that steep embankment, there were some 21 ton vans parked on there for storage at one period (the type where you see sometimes on farms, with the wheels taken off and having sliding doors). They were left there for a period, being empty and surplus to requirement, but British Railways couldn't find one of these which was missing off their records, and had been loaded with whisky. Where was this mysterious missing van? It had been wrongly marshalled and put amongst those on the embankment, and nobody at Buxton had noticed! So, a fair bit of shunting had to be done to remove it from the others! Finding the stone sleeper down the bank side on that old deviation of all places and after all those years was a mega find! Maybe no one had been over there for a long, long time. You've researched this area brilliantly, Paul. Many thanks for doing this excellent film.
Another great video and nice to see the sections that I walked when doing my web pages on my High Peak Railway walks. Thanks too for the short walk over the older curve that I never got back to doing.
The tube train was probably there from NCB safety in mines establishment investigating King’s Cross underground fire where bits brought up from London and burnt .to see how fire started
Very interesting. Did security not come out and keep an eye on you? I walked through on the path from Leap Edge to join the track bed to Ladmanlow, soon after passing the first camera's a van appeared. They passed and parked on the trackbed watching.
Other than the cameras, didnt see any other security. They must have assessed me as harmless and helpless 😄. There were loads of people cycling and running up and down the same road though.
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Another belter lads. You're in uncharted territory for me now - never followed it that far north - but your frequent map shots help me to get my bearings. Love the old pix too! 👍
Thanks Nick. First time for me. Was pleasantly suprised.
Hi Paul fab video as usual, yes Harpur Hill intriguing & interesting was extremely busy with trains back in the day, Shows up nicely where you are on the ariel maps. Lovely old bridges & old trackbed to walk along. Cheers Paul. ❤🥰👍
Thanks very much Carol. A very intruiging area. I'd have loved to see all the lines as they were.
Nice one guys..
Cheers Declan.
Very enjoyable. The "tunnel" built on the HSE site was used for mine research, the NCB used it for many projects. A 3'-0" gauge railway ran through the tunnel with a small diesel locomotive running on it.
👍 cheers for the info.
Very intriguing
The holes in slab could been spliting hole for plug and feather used to spit slabs seen similar in a local museum
I agree, think a larger block was split there, search youtube for "feather and wedge" to see process used
Defiitely. Not rope marks.
Interesting video Paul, thats a very X filesy place. There seems to be a lot going on in what is a fairly rural area
yeah it's very mysterious. It's a shame you can't get to a lot of stuff there. I would love to invetigate more.
This area has changed so much over the years Paul, it's a little difficult to know what was original and what isn't now!. At 3:27, where that brick parapet is above the entrance to the tunnel complex, there was never any tin frontage originally, there was just steel doors, and a brick sentry hut at the left hand side. It was all sealed off the area, with high concrete posts, netting, with barbed wire on top, until the early '60s. It was then Air Ministry property still. When it opened up in 1964 it belonged to Wrington Vale Nurseries from Somerset who had it as a very, very, large mushroom farm. That finished some time in the '70s, and it became a massive storage complex for different companies. There was still limestone kilns in existence just around the corner up until the 70s, those shown on your old map. Further on this line towards Ladnanlow, there was originally only one overbridge to what is now HSE. (I've a relative that works there, by the way).What is now HSE, was originally the Safety in Mines Research Establishment, with the University Of Sheffield having laboratories as well next to their site. It's a very secure area, I might tell you! Next to that complex the RAF had buildings until about the early 60s, but I don't know if any still remain. That bridge, the old brick one, 8:47, was the only crossing to those places, the later ones, I've no idea when they were put there. That tunnel at 13:16 was another storage one I think, and had a sign outside it with DANGER - ATOMIC RADIATION ON IT - no word of a lie!, because the public footpath to the hamlet of farms called Brandside went right past it. At 12:23, that long concrete surface tunnel with the railings on top, and on the alignment of the old course of the railway was built in 1963 for blasting purposes, something to do with mine explosion testing. It was built with extremely intense re-inforced concrete. Back to the late alignment where the crash barrierrs are now on that steep embankment, there were some 21 ton vans parked on there for storage at one period (the type where you see sometimes on farms, with the wheels taken off and having sliding doors). They were left there for a period, being empty and surplus to requirement, but British Railways couldn't find one of these which was missing off their records, and had been loaded with whisky. Where was this mysterious missing van? It had been wrongly marshalled and put amongst those on the embankment, and nobody at Buxton had noticed! So, a fair bit of shunting had to be done to remove it from the others! Finding the stone sleeper down the bank side on that old deviation of all places and after all those years was a mega find! Maybe no one had been over there for a long, long time. You've researched this area brilliantly, Paul. Many thanks for doing this excellent film.
Thanks very much. Again, a fascinating area to explore. Challenging in places with more questions than answers. And a stunningly beautiful backdrop :)
Another good one Paul.Ive got some more to watch ive been very poorly keep up the good work.
Thanks Chris. Hope you're feeling better.
@@WobblyRunner Miles better thanx ive got some catching up to do on your adventures.
Another great video and nice to see the sections that I walked when doing my web pages on my High Peak Railway walks. Thanks too for the short walk over the older curve that I never got back to doing.
Thanks very much. Is the theatre organ web blog by any chance? 🙂
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Thanks very much John
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The tube train was probably there from NCB safety in mines establishment investigating King’s Cross underground fire where bits brought up from London and burnt .to see how fire started
2:37 The underground ex RAF depo is under GXO. The portal at 4:18 is the original rail access to the underground space.
Cheers Ian
Very interesting. Did security not come out and keep an eye on you? I walked through on the path from Leap Edge to join the track bed to Ladmanlow, soon after passing the first camera's a van appeared. They passed and parked on the trackbed watching.
Other than the cameras, didnt see any other security. They must have assessed me as harmless and helpless 😄.
There were loads of people cycling and running up and down the same road though.
There's a surprising amount of curiosities to poke about at up on Harpur Hill, a laissez faire attitude to trespass helps in that respect. 😂👍
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Just keep putting out the videos. People that want to watch them will. Others will not.
Cheers Neil.
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Thanks very much Andrea 👍🙂