Revealed: Jason Simpkins' "Air Uber" Stock (5,900% Returns?)

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  • Опубликовано: 27 ноя 2024

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  • @BarbaraMercer-t4u
    @BarbaraMercer-t4u Месяц назад +269

    Stocks extended their year-to-date rally following the CPI report, with the S&P 500 last up 0.8% last week. but I don't know if stocks will quickly rebound, continue to pull back or move sideways for a few weeks, or if conditions will rapidly deteriorate. I am under pressure to grow my reserve.

    • @KristensenJørgensen
      @KristensenJørgensen Месяц назад

      Safest approach i feel to go about it is to diversify investments. By spreading investments across different asset classes, like bonds, real estate, and international stocks, they can reduce the impact of a market meltdown. its important to seek the guidance of an expert

    • @NatalieFormor
      @NatalieFormor Месяц назад

      A lot of folks downplay the role of advlsors until being burnt by their own emotions. I remember couple summers back, after my lengthy divorce, I needed a good boost to help my business stay afloat, hence I researched for licensed advisors and came across someone of utmost qualifications. She's helped grow my reserve notwithstanding inflation, from $275k to $850k.

    • @Robbertskypes
      @Robbertskypes Месяц назад

      This is definitely considerable! think you could suggest any professional/advisors i can get on the phone with? i'm in dire need of proper portfoIlo allocation

    • @NatalieFormor
      @NatalieFormor Месяц назад

      Viviana Marisa Coelho is her name. She is regarded as a genius in her area and works for Empower Financial Services. By looking her up online, you can quickly verify her level of experience. She is well knowledgeable about financial markets.

    • @DanielOrstein
      @DanielOrstein Месяц назад

      She appears to be well-educated and well-read. I ran an onlline search on her name and came across her webslte; thank you for sharing. I sccheduled a caII..

  •  Месяц назад +37

    it's JOBY...you're welcome.

    • @axetrops
      @axetrops 11 дней назад +1

      Hoping it was Archer lol

    •  11 дней назад +1

      @axetrops I don't think Achr is too far behind Joby but they are behind....and Lilm is done.

  • @BajramFatmir
    @BajramFatmir 12 дней назад +146

    The biggest lesson I learned in 2023 about the stock market is that nobody knows what will happen next, so practice some humility and low a strategy with a long-term edge.

    • @LoumaWuske
      @LoumaWuske 12 дней назад

      Nobody knows anything; You need to create your process, manage risk, and stick to the plan, through thick or thin, While also continuously learning from mistakes and improving.

    • @EhadBartzsch
      @EhadBartzsch 12 дней назад

      @@LoumaWuske I agree with you. As an early investor in NVDA, AVGO, ANSS, and LRCX, my financial advisor's advice was incredibly helpful. Over the past seven years, she has helped me find stocks that have performed 10x multiple times. With her help, I've grown my portfolio to over a million dollars.

    • @BajramFatmir
      @BajramFatmir 12 дней назад

      @@EhadBartzsch Could you kindly elaborate on the advisor's background and qualifications?

    • @EhadBartzsch
      @EhadBartzsch 12 дней назад

      @@BajramFatmir The beauty of MARGARET MOLLI ALVEY approach is her dual focus: while aggressively pursuing profit opportunities, she's equally tenacious about shielding investors from potential pitfalls. It's a balance few can achieve.

    • @BajramFatmir
      @BajramFatmir 12 дней назад

      @@EhadBartzsch I just ran an online search on her name and came across her website; pretty well educated. thank you for sharing.

  • @PhoenixReborn-v6v
    @PhoenixReborn-v6v 25 дней назад +195

    Definitely motivating, The stock market is on fire! My portfolio is up 48% since the start of the year. Who else is crushing it?

    • @MARSHMALLOWwhimsy
      @MARSHMALLOWwhimsy 25 дней назад +1

      I wish I could say the same. I've been trying to make successful stock picks all year, but I'm still in the red.

    • @DreamweaverShade-h9p
      @DreamweaverShade-h9p 25 дней назад +1

      I am... and I just dumped all my winners today except for Meta because I already took my investment out and its free ride. I am 65% dry powder and riding my silver and gold mines to the top. I plan to buy a lot of dividend stocks when time is right.

    • @MakeamericaGreatagain-h7j
      @MakeamericaGreatagain-h7j 25 дней назад +1

      58% YTD. I started investing on my own and for a long time, the market was really ripping me off. I decided to hire an advisor, even though I was skeptical at first, and I beat the market by more than 9%. I thought it was a fluke until it happened two years in a row, and so I’ve been sticking to investing via one.

    • @Damncars456
      @Damncars456 25 дней назад +1

      Your advisor must be really good. How I can get in touch? My portfolio's decline is a concern, and I could use some guidance.

    • @MakeamericaGreatagain-h7j
      @MakeamericaGreatagain-h7j 25 дней назад +1

      Sophia Irene Powell is the advisor I use and i'm just putting this out here because you asked. You can Just search the name. You’d find necessary details to work with to set up an appointment.

  • @Gracejay-d2e
    @Gracejay-d2e Месяц назад +68

    Stock market is on fire! My portfolio is up 23% since the start of the year. Who else is crushing it?

    • @dogmom-pt5we
      @dogmom-pt5we Месяц назад +3

      I wish I could say the same. I've been trying to make successful stock picks all year, but I'm still in the red

    • @DeannaPeters-lz8we
      @DeannaPeters-lz8we Месяц назад +2

      @@dogmom-pt5we I’m currently working towards FIRE with a focus on dividends & growth investing. Since 2014, I’ve built a portfolio made up of 30% NVDA, 25% SCHD, 15% VOO and over 30% in digital assets, thanks to my CFA. This strategy has helped me earn $49,000 a year in dividends. Back in 2014, I only earned $21 in dividends.

    • @JohnBeen-r3v
      @JohnBeen-r3v Месяц назад +2

      ​@@DeannaPeters-lz8we Hey, I'm trying to find a financial adviser to boost my investments, but it's tough online. Can I get a rec from you, since you know about this stuff?

    • @DeannaPeters-lz8we
      @DeannaPeters-lz8we Месяц назад +2

      @@JohnBeen-r3v Sharon crump cline is the advisr I use and im just putting this out here because you asked. You can Just search the name. You’d find necessary details to work with to set up an appointment.

    • @JohnBeen-r3v
      @JohnBeen-r3v Месяц назад +1

      @@DeannaPeters-lz8we I curiously searched her names and I found some pretty interesting information. Thanks for this

  • @dennishubert1595
    @dennishubert1595 Месяц назад +29

    The worst time to start obsessively following the stock market is right after it's crashed -- that is, unless you're taking that long-term perspective and looking at it as an opportunity. If your stomach is in knots because the market just tanked, try reading up on the facts about crashes instead of focusing on what just happened. You'll learn that crashes are incredibly common, and the stock market has always recovered

    • @annamink6329
      @annamink6329 Месяц назад

      Best thing is to carry out extensive research and be on top of current events. Know how current events can alter share prices and apply logic over your emotions. This is what worked for me. Best of luck

    • @bellajobb655
      @bellajobb655 Месяц назад

      In order to make profits from trading you need loads of experience and a well defined strategy, which most traders don't have. If you trade without the proper preparation, you're most likely to lose your money. Identify the buy/sell ratios and identify the market leaders and most importantly. Diversify! this will help you spread risk.

    • @clarabekkings5505
      @clarabekkings5505 Месяц назад

      stocks are overrated now. buy gold , 5% in crypto . rest in cash. and wait for the stock/property/land.
      price to crash . but them after it stops dropping for 7 - 12 months at the bottom.

    • @johnsonstrapsman8
      @johnsonstrapsman8 Месяц назад

      It's usually best to ignore the trend whether bullish or bearish and stick to a proper trading plan maybe from the help of a professional. I recently just started investing again so I am still in touch with the consultant that provides entry and exit points on the securities I focus on. She does all the technical analysis legwork while I go about my other businesses. You can use something else if you are the DIY type of guy, investing has no one way to do it

    • @CoraKennedy316
      @CoraKennedy316 Месяц назад

      How can I participate in this? I sincerely aspire to establish a secure financial future and am eager to participate. Who is the driving force behind your success?.

  • @dylanrieger7651
    @dylanrieger7651  Месяц назад

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  • @sauerbone5208
    @sauerbone5208 Месяц назад +12

    My sweetheart VTOL stock that I have been accumulating for a while now is Lilium. Same idea. You can buy them up now for under a buck. 2026 will probably be the year that this industry starts cooking. Maybe Joby has a bit of an edge on the starting block.

    • @dylanrieger7651
      @dylanrieger7651  Месяц назад +1

      That's an interesting one!

    • @sauerbone5208
      @sauerbone5208 Месяц назад

      @@dylanrieger7651 They're not quite ready to pop yet. I have no doubt that they will be a strong competitor in thie eVtol industry. "Saudi Arabia's national airline, Saudia Group, signed a binding agreement with Lilium N.V. to purchase up to 100 electric vertical take-off and landing (eVTOL) jets."

    • @WRLDofHRT
      @WRLDofHRT Месяц назад +1

      I hold Lilium too and I also have faith in them for the future!

    • @sirrodneyffing1
      @sirrodneyffing1 Месяц назад

      Me too. That company is bursting with next generation technology and will be a major player when the VTOL market starts to break through into mainstream use.

    • @pierrever
      @pierrever Месяц назад

      X peng will be the next Nvidia EVOLT

  • @fredzirzowsr.8905
    @fredzirzowsr.8905 Месяц назад +8

    JOBY ahead of the rest .

  • @DBCooperMOTIVATES
    @DBCooperMOTIVATES 14 дней назад +2

    Akoustis Technologies is not the next Nvidia but according to Chat GPT and Gemini it's both overlooked and undervalued 😎

  • @RaulDiaz-n9t
    @RaulDiaz-n9t Месяц назад +106

    I am new to the stock/crypto market. Every stock that I bought so far, I was out of luck because I bought them when they were expensive. I feel I missed out on all the stock opportunities so far for the tech stocks. I believe having 175K yearly income would be a good investment so I want to plug all my savings into the stock market. I know this sounds a bit dull but I would like to know if I should learn investing or let somebody else (more capable like a FA) do it for me? Please share your thoughts. I am kind of tired of searching for a good stock to buy and losing all the good opportunities

    • @MeganGood-n4f
      @MeganGood-n4f Месяц назад

      Even with the right technique and assets some investors would still make more than others, as an investor, you should’ve known that by now, nothing beats experience and that’s final, personally I had to reach out to a stock expert for guidance which is how I was able to grow my account close to a million, withdraw my profit right before the correction and now I’m buying again

    • @RaulDiaz-n9t
      @RaulDiaz-n9t Месяц назад

      Hi , please who is the expert assisting you and how do I reach out to them?

    • @MeganGood-n4f
      @MeganGood-n4f Месяц назад

      The broker I'm in touch with is gabriel alberto william. I came across him in a Bloomberg interview and got in touch with him. You can use something else. For me, his strategy works hence my result. he provides entry and exit point for the securities I focus on

    • @MeganGood-n4f
      @MeganGood-n4f Месяц назад +1

      sure. why not, he goes by the name gabriel alberto william. I came across him in a Bloomberg interview and got in touch with him. You can use something else. For me, his strategy works hence my result. he provides entry and exit point for the securities I focus on

    • @RaulDiaz-n9t
      @RaulDiaz-n9t Месяц назад

      Thanks for sharing, I just looked him up online and I would say he really does have an impressive background on investing

  • @JennaHerberholz
    @JennaHerberholz 25 дней назад +209

    I am awfully late in investing at 33 with just about $80,000 in savings as i have never invested in the stock market. I’m worried about the outcome of the elections and its impact on the market, Is this a good time?

    • @Emily-le2op
      @Emily-le2op 25 дней назад +3

      As they say, 'time IN the market is better than trying to time the market'. I think you should seek advice from a licensed financial advisor. They’ll give you guide on high risk and low risk investment strategies for your portfolio.

    • @JordanReam8186
      @JordanReam8186 25 дней назад +4

      I agree; financial advisors are underrated. A friend introduced me to one in 2022, and despite my skepticism, I gave it a try. Thanks to the advisor, I now earn enough in monthly dividends to quit my job and start a restaurant in New Jersey while still earning five figures in dividends.

    • @lawrenceHart-ys2ct
      @lawrenceHart-ys2ct 25 дней назад +2

      Pls how can I reach this expert, I need someone to help me manage my portfolio.

    • @JordanReam8186
      @JordanReam8186 25 дней назад

      Sophia Irene Powell is the licensed advisor I use and i'm just putting this out here because you asked. You can Just search the name. You’d find necessary details to work with to set up an appointment.

    • @JordanReam8186
      @JordanReam8186 25 дней назад +3

      Can't divulge much, ‘’Sophia Irene Powell’’ preferably, {you can look up the name on the web, her qualifications speak for itself.

  • @autonomical
    @autonomical Месяц назад +2

    Hovr is the sleeper. It has the best patent in the sector

  • @HarunTosun-wg4rc
    @HarunTosun-wg4rc Месяц назад +1

    Buying a stock might seem simple, but choosing the right one without a solid strategy can be daunting. I’ve been focused on growing my $210K portfolio, but a lack of clear entry and exit strategies has been a significant challenge. Without a structured approach, it’s easy to fall into emotional decision-making traps.
    One way to address this is to establish specific entry and exit criteria based on metrics like price-to-earnings ratios, moving averages, or relative strength indicators. Another approach is to consider dollar-cost averaging to minimize market timing risks and to set target price levels for selling based on your risk tolerance and profit goals. Consulting with a financial advisor can also provide clarity on tailoring strategies to meet your financial objectives. A clear plan can help navigate market volatility and make more confident decisions in expanding the portfolio over time.

  • @putheflamesoutyahoo1503
    @putheflamesoutyahoo1503 Месяц назад

    i agree, Best use of a battery for travel and self driving

  • @sarawilliam696
    @sarawilliam696 Месяц назад +3

    Stocks extended their year-to-date rally following the CPI report, with the S&P 500 last up 0.8% in afternoon trading. but I don't know if stocks will quickly rebound, continue to pull back or move sideways for a few weeks, or if conditions will rapidly deteriorate. I am under pressure to grow my reserve.

    • @KaurKhangura
      @KaurKhangura Месяц назад +2

      Palantir, ARM and Nvidia are all still good buy, it's vital to avoid impulsive decisions driven by short-term fluctuations. Prioritize patience and a long-term perspective most importantly consider financial advisory for informed buying and selling decisions.

    • @Justinmeyer1000
      @Justinmeyer1000 Месяц назад +1

      I agree. Exactly why I now work with one. A lot of folks downplay the role of advisors until being burnt by their emotions, no offense. I remember some years back, during the covid-outbreak, I needed a good boost to stay afloat, hence researched for advisors and thankfully came across one with grit. As of today, my cash reserve has yielded from $350k to nearly $1m

    • @foden700
      @foden700 Месяц назад +1

      I’ve been looking to switch to an advisor for a while now. Any help pointing me to who your advisor is?

    • @Justinmeyer1000
      @Justinmeyer1000 Месяц назад

      ‘’Aileen Gertrude Tippy’’ is her name. She is regarded as a genius in her area and works for Empower Financial Services. She’s quite known in her field, look-her up.

    • @foden700
      @foden700 Месяц назад

      Thanks a lot for this suggestion. I needed this myself, I looked her up, and I have sent her an email. I hope she gets back to me soon.

  • @mikehendin8445
    @mikehendin8445 4 дня назад

    It's either Archer or Joby. You know what? It doesn't matter because I believe both stocks will be great.

  • @Corporate101-mk6ib
    @Corporate101-mk6ib 14 дней назад +1

    Although there’s a market this isn’t going to be like an Uber service for every day people. Hundreds of helicopter sized vtols trying to land in car parking lots? Or on streets? Only way that works is if the infrastructure is created to facilitate that space needed

  • @YouThePeople.
    @YouThePeople. Месяц назад

    Joby just went down today.im sure it'll go back up but it got down to $5.03 its currently trading at about $5.15.

  • @nelsonortiz2768
    @nelsonortiz2768 Месяц назад

    Thank you brother bless you

  • @JT1284-A
    @JT1284-A Месяц назад +2

    What about Archer?

    •  Месяц назад

      they are way behind Joby....but way ahead of Lillium.

  • @Disrupt-Her
    @Disrupt-Her Месяц назад

    Thank you

  • @donnahovan2054
    @donnahovan2054 Месяц назад

    Thank you, Dylan!

  • @danno1800
    @danno1800 Месяц назад +1

    Thanks - I have subscribed…

  • @fepeerreview3150
    @fepeerreview3150 Месяц назад +1

    I think I'll buy one share. And if it pays off I'll treat myself to a really nice dinner out.

  • @Linette-g-y
    @Linette-g-y Месяц назад +36

    To be kinda blunt, I am giving up on investing in stocks... I put between 2000 to 3000 a month and it's nothing but down down.... Sooooo frustrating and I only invest in boring big companies. How can I capitalize in such a market?

    • @cortez9978
      @cortez9978 Месяц назад +1

      Great Buying opportunities today. Embracing pullbacks and correction is key. This is where the money is made!

    • @M.Herlihy
      @M.Herlihy Месяц назад

      Absolutely! Wealth is made in bear markets. We aren’t in a bear yet, but nibbling heavy red days has proven to be fruitful for me over 4 years of investing. I am at 2.25 mil. Biggest positions VOO, VTI, SCHD, VYM, and now looking to build up DRGO alongside finding quality value/growth stocks. I got $48k divs last year in taxable divs. Q2 taxable divs this year was $17,388 this year. Don't sell when the market is down. Having a skilled CFA that puts the time in to do in-depth research can be invaluable in strategizing your portfolio.

    • @Biggerstaff4
      @Biggerstaff4 Месяц назад

      I could really use the expertise of this CFA

    • @M.Herlihy
      @M.Herlihy Месяц назад

      I'm cautious about giving specific recommendations as everyone's situation varies. Consider independent financial advisors like "KATHERINE NANCE DIETZ" I've worked with her since the pandemic and highly recommend her. You can check if she meets your criteria.

    • @AstridJohansen-z
      @AstridJohansen-z Месяц назад

      excellent share, curiously inputted Katherine Nance Dietz on the web, spotted her consulting page ranked top and was able to schedule a call session. Ive seen commentaries about advisors but not one looks this phenomenal

  • @rikers263
    @rikers263 14 дней назад

    Yeah Joby and ACHR leaders so far. Both super cheap, you can get 100 for nothing or grab 250-500. They so low its worth it.

  • @MsMichelle7777
    @MsMichelle7777 Месяц назад +2

    I was waiting for it! 🎉😊❤

  • @CoachFrancisFit
    @CoachFrancisFit Месяц назад +1

    Unless he has 2 names, the person you're showing is Ray Blanco

  • @elviegoodness
    @elviegoodness Месяц назад +77

    I dont even know where the stock market is headed to right now. my portfolio of around 200k is not increasing more than 5% and people are predicting a crash .

    • @JIN-u6t3t
      @JIN-u6t3t Месяц назад

      Thanks a lot for this suggestion. I needed this myself, I looked her up, and I have sent her an email. I hope she gets back to me soon.

    • @lenorasheridan8788
      @lenorasheridan8788 Месяц назад

      youtube.com/@wallstreetlookslikeusnow?si=w_rcmqCD0AKuGe0s

    • @NMBUS24
      @NMBUS24 Месяц назад

      ​@@JIN-u6t3tBot... 😂

    • @jetscream53
      @jetscream53 17 дней назад

      Pick any day and someone is predicting a crash. Happens every single day.

  • @kymaneezmom
    @kymaneezmom Месяц назад

    Vertical air ❤

  • @TonyCapozzo
    @TonyCapozzo Месяц назад

    I don't see on strea on your store for some reason

  • @kymaneezmom
    @kymaneezmom Месяц назад

    ❤🎉 thank you sir 🙏

  • @johnhuston650
    @johnhuston650 Месяц назад +2

    How do they address the noise pollution from the props? Im waiting for alien tech.

    • @dylanrieger7651
      @dylanrieger7651  Месяц назад +1

      Apparently, it's pretty quiet. Here's a video of them testing the noise levels to other aircrafts: ruclips.net/video/itP8-3j2UZI/видео.html&ab_channel=JobyAviation

  • @saltate5915
    @saltate5915 Месяц назад +1

    verrrrry interesting!

  • @seazestyt
    @seazestyt Месяц назад +15

    I have been trading JOBY and ACHR for the last 2 years but they are not going anywhere anytime soon

    • @dylanrieger7651
      @dylanrieger7651  Месяц назад +2

      Agree

    • @casurferho
      @casurferho Месяц назад +1

      Achr has been killer , last week was nice run

    •  Месяц назад

      I disagree, Joby will double in 25 and only up from there pending to major accidents.

  • @Tom-gr9ii
    @Tom-gr9ii Месяц назад

    JOBY SPACs? How many SPACs merged companies still above $10 without reversed split? 🤔

  • @URKlewless
    @URKlewless Месяц назад +8

    I’m gonna get on RUclips and post videos how certain stocks will gain 127,000% in 6 months 🤣🤣🤣

  • @Fishslayer007
    @Fishslayer007 Месяц назад +1

    For once, this guy has finally said something with merit. This is an aviation stock, and if you're not familiar with this field. Especially when you're going to have to overcome the gubment bureaucracy. This is a viable long term possibility. But I say long term, it's not for the near retiring segment. But more for the worthless gen Z. This isn't going to come to fruition for at least another 25 to 30 years from now. So it's a worthless stock for older investors.

  • @kienphung9084
    @kienphung9084 22 дня назад

    A source of information from Asia said that: An illegal immigrant must pay $60,000 UDS for human traffickers in order to enter USA.
    Do this math: $60,000 USD x 10,457,728 illegal immigrants = 627,463,680,000 USD.
    Did someone get kickback from that money?

    • @jetscream53
      @jetscream53 17 дней назад

      I heard the cartels charge $10, 000 in Mexico.

  • @VanChuong-on2gh
    @VanChuong-on2gh Месяц назад

    I am holding a cash position of about 300k. I know a dip is supposed to be the buying opportunity in this recession, thus my question - what are the best stocks to dive into as of now?

    • @mandyyonge
      @mandyyonge Месяц назад

      the hottest stocks in recent years have been in the technology and communication industries, most investors find it easier to build their portfolios utilizing a financial advisor, perhaps you can do the same

  • @bbwxqx
    @bbwxqx Месяц назад +2

    There is also Archer aviation that is doing the same thing and has multimillion dollar contracts with the Air Force and other airlines

  • @Alex-z1v2s
    @Alex-z1v2s 8 дней назад

    Archer aviation

  • @futcasterz3372
    @futcasterz3372 Месяц назад

    Is he Ray Blanco?????

  • @salokymx9905
    @salokymx9905 Месяц назад

    big minus for now...

  • @paulking2039
    @paulking2039 Месяц назад +1

    Only birds should be in the sky.

  • @Angry397
    @Angry397 Месяц назад

    Pay him $3000 to be scammed HUH

  • @masetheautochton2293
    @masetheautochton2293 26 дней назад

    Bruh that's like saying you have a Bible and no one only you can interpret it😂😂😂 that you created😮😮😅😅 who's going to stop you??🎉

  • @oftenwrongphong
    @oftenwrongphong Месяц назад

    fantastic, this BS stock is down another 15% today. I've been in n out of these stocks (there are a few, plus battery makers specifically doing lightweight, high-performance batteries for aircraft)...my advice: treat them as any other BS story stocks. We currently can barely do this profitably on land or sea.

  • @tomcat4321
    @tomcat4321 Месяц назад +1

    More speculative nonsense 😂

    •  Месяц назад

      well, that's what the market is.

  • @north_42
    @north_42 Месяц назад +2

    This company, Joby Aviation executive sold over $100k in company stock yesterday, caution is the key here, people need to do their own research.

    • @jay_stack1270
      @jay_stack1270 Месяц назад +1

      They’re about to go into commercial ops so they need money to
      Clear the way for lot of things

    • @bronxishomenomatterwhereig3149
      @bronxishomenomatterwhereig3149 Месяц назад

      God forbid they sell shares so they can eat

    •  Месяц назад +1

      100k when you have over 30m in stock is a drop in the bucket.

  • @johnaltoro2691
    @johnaltoro2691 Месяц назад +1

    Delusional for now.

    •  Месяц назад

      Joby is gonna smoke the other but the % increase they talk here I agree is delusional.

    • @jayboley9683
      @jayboley9683 13 дней назад

      Lol ok

    • @jayboley9683
      @jayboley9683 13 дней назад

      Joby earnings are like a stinky fart. Smells rough at first and dwindles to nothing within seconds