Of course there is. The title race starts on day one of the season. If, for example, Chelsea misses at the end on the 1st spot by just two points it won't matter if they have lost those two points in October, December or April. Points matter the same in the beginning, in the middle and at the end.
I’m proud of Matisse, all this time when they all tried to make him fall into the trap, he stood his ground. This is what they wanted, they wanted Matisse to say they’re in the title race so it gives them the ammo to call Chelsea bottlers.
How can you call arsenal fans delusional when Arsenal have been 4 points from a title 2 seasons ago and 2 points from a title last season, against one of the greatest teams ever assembled, who have also been on trial for the last 2 years for 115-130 charges collectively
@@hartzldn well arsenal fans think they are better than they actually are when they have won zero major trophies with arteta...it gets worse when they look down upon liverpool who have actually won titles with the current players and are more experienced
@@tec4321-e5o the improvements for Arsenal have come on the pitch and also the landscape of the club has MASSIVELY shifted off the pitch as well. I value the sustainability of the club more than Immediate success, we are clearly a competitive team and have clear ambitions, and it will come soon. The season also isn’t over.
You know I agree with Matisse, after the Fulham game I still stand by saying we are not in a title race. We’re not ready and yet we’re getting laughed at for being realistic
@@viewtifulviewer7282this whole “spent a billion” thing is so stupid. They made over 600 mil in player sales (more than any other club), have some of the lowest wages in the league and had to basically entirely replace their squad in the last year.
@@elorwatson7509 See thats the thing you don't get, we wouldn't. Liverpool are an insane team. With a point above us and a game in hand. How can we beat them it was impossible. This ain't Chelsea's year, we humble about that. I think Arsenal needs to also give up on this false race narrative that they have begun.
I am surprised by Chelsea fans being modest about their expectation given their success since the Roman days. I would have expected them to be as giddy as United fans but it hasn’t been as long since they won a major trophy so good for them for being patient.
We're not delusional like other fanbases and we've been 1st in the table in December under Tuchel and Lampard and both times we finished 4th end of season.
I respect Matisse on this, there’s no point in saying something you know rivals want you to say. Arsenal are my team, if we beat Ipswich then I’d say WE are in a title race.
This time last year Matisse was doing the same thing. They all wanted Arsenal fans to say they were in the title race so they can banter them when they lost the title, it’s all banter until the question is set upon your team 😂😂
It’s almost as if rival fans don’t watch Chelsea games,if they actually paid close attention to the matches played even when winning,you can see that we not in a title race,too many things still wrong with this squad
he was always right, the whole world was trying to push and punish Chelsea & the fans to admitting something that is wrong. sure points wise it may look like it but we are not in a title race and have always been after top 4 and a trophy. title race talk starts for us next season proper
My football history knowledge isn't good, but I've not known of a team as young and inexperienced as Chelsea's, anywhere across Europe, to win a league title. You need a team (or players within that team/squad) with experience of winning trophies and competing under pressure to win the title imo.
Tbh it’s end of December/January (which is more or less now) But yh he’s got the right idea To be apart of a race you don’t have to be a serious competitor right to the end, that’s like saying a 100m Olympic sprinter finalist wasn’t in the race cause they didn’t finish, if you get what I mean
Common sense isn’t for everyone - but Matisse has it. Never understood this weird obsession with declaring who’s in a title race - what does that even mean before February?
Abbie and Robbie are a wierd pair. They ask questions but at the same time will not agree or listen to the response. They just want to be right all the time
For all the intelligence I love about Matisse and looking at his age, I am sorry sir, arsenal are not Tottenham, they know what a title race and title win looks like. Let's cap correctly.
This is the real example of bottle jobs, for those of you who are to young an don't know the proper meaning, it means to be scared, to be frightened and run away from something rather than stand your ground, chelsea fans are so scared to back their team in case they fuk up, they rather sit on the fence an not back their team than get slated if they fail, the very definition of a bottle job
Robbie you DO NOT speak for us very few realistic and non deluded arsenal fans, this was supposed to be 'the year' for us seen as though city are moving like spurs but guess what? not only have we bottled the league 11 games in, we bottled it the 3rd time in a f'ing row, you wanna talk about progression but progression leads to something and this specific 'progression' has led us absolutely nowhere, utd for crying out loud have won better trophies than us and all we have to say is we 'fought for the title for 2 seasons' simply pathetic, get rid of this cone setter and bring in a manager capable of taking us over the line, we have a very good team for the first time in more than a decade its not no 'we have dead wood so we cant win' we got rid of them and yet still cant bring in major honors? its not on the players anymore its now down to the manager and 1 we never wanted him the first place and 2 hes had enough time and its time to get rid enough's enough, we cant use the last 2 seasons as something to hype to other teams with its embarrassing asf, we have nothing to show for the last 2 seasons to be acting all high and mighty humble yourselves
Of course Chelsea are in the title race, top 4 half-way through the season if that's not 'in the race' then what is? That's not the same as saying 'chelsea will win the title' though is it? Guy that qualified fourth on the grid in formula one is definitely 'in the race'.
If one loss means ur not in a title race then that means ur just not in a title race. Are nottigham forest in a title race as well by this dum fan logic
It's not about sounding like spurs or anybody this is Chelsea we know our standard and we can all see the weakness in our squad all over the pitch so why will we say we are in a title race when there's a lot of weakness 1 youngest squad in the league without any experience 2 no good goalkeeper 3 no good solid center back 4 we still need a solid center forward 5 our players have never been under pressure or anything before and probably Enzo is probably the only player that has played under pressure and delivered for is country. So when u see all this factor we are definitely not in title and if u look at every other team challenging for the title they only have probably 1 weaknesses which is solid center forward for arsenal and Liverpool, there's no way we can compete with them
@@olorunfemiayomide5030 like I said pathetic,it’s like running a race and you running so hard ,working so hard sweating and breathing with all your lungs without any intention of winning You sound pathetic
Liverpool are the real underdogs. Chelsea spend billion pounds and bought Liverpool targets like caicedo, enzo Fernandez which would have been crucial for liverpool midfield yet Liverpool is leading lmao 😂. Keep staying humble.
You're right, it's not like Chelsea made 900 mil in outgoings or anything. And it's not like that 1 billion was spent on players under the age of 26 with little to no experience with silverware, bar Enzo. And it's also not like a large portion of that money was spent in the past 2 seasons where Chelsea fans could only dream of top 4 rather than run their mouths online to rivals that desperately want us to be in a title race for some reason. With all that together, I guess we should be fighting for the league in December huh
Already made 900 mill from sales, if we get rid of sterling, Childwall, and mudryk all will be covered, interesting to see how arsenal will cover the 700 mill spend
@@bruh-ic7sb nah you don't get it, us selling mount, kai, rlc, koulibay etc., doesn't count because it doesn't fit the "you spent 1bill" narrative thst everyone loves using out of context. Apparently most of that billion that we spent, on YOUNGSTERS btw, means we should be challenging for the title since its clear to see they're all galacticos.
@bruh-ic7sb Chelsea financially are in a much worse position than Arsenal. You've spent alot more than you've gained and you need to pay everyone's wages. You'll probably need to sell another 7 or 8 players to avoid ffp.
@nathanreddy3199 you are clueless af, the owners have sold their hotels and gave the players long term contract, stop waffling nonsense like the rest of the media and focus on your own team, what have assna sold to cover their 700 mill spending?
@@nathanreddy3199 lmao you really don't know anything about our club other than the non sense the media pushes do you? We sold alot of players who were on high wages, mount, kai, koulibay, kova, lukaku etc., and signed youngsters on lower wages with perfomance based bonuses so no our wage structure isn't an issue and we won't have an issue in that regard with ffp lmao.
Everyone is in the race until it's mathematically impossible otherwise whats the point. Doesn't Everyone want to win the league? Or are you just making up the numbers. Leicester City were in the title race from day 1 untill the end of the season when they won the league. You can be in a title race and then not be in it. That is allowed 😂 its as if you can only be in a title race once you have won it. Surely your in with a chance as long g as the maths says so. 🤦♂️
That's why that referee called you sh*t . Why you hate chelsea so much?That isn't our problem you rejected by Enzo,lavia,mount .it's because you aren't attractive enough to be player's dream
The question wasnt "are you going to win the league". Chelsea were in the title fight because of the form and based on the teams they beat. The whole of chelsea were just too scared to admit that because they didnt want to roasted if they fail
It's not about sounding like spurs or anybody this is Chelsea we know our standard and we can all see the weakness in our squad all over the pitch so why will we say we are in a title race when there's a lot of weakness 1 youngest squad in the league without any experience 2 no good goalkeeper 3 no good solid center back 4 we still need a solid center forward 5 our players have never been under pressure or anything before and probably Enzo is probably the only player that has played under pressure and delivered for is country.
Respect to Matisse on this. There isn’t a title race in December.
Soooo...there is no one bottling it? yes.
Of course there is. The title race starts on day one of the season. If, for example, Chelsea misses at the end on the 1st spot by just two points it won't matter if they have lost those two points in October, December or April. Points matter the same in the beginning, in the middle and at the end.
@ cool. So Nottingham Forest are in the title race?
I’m proud of Matisse, all this time when they all tried to make him fall into the trap, he stood his ground. This is what they wanted, they wanted Matisse to say they’re in the title race so it gives them the ammo to call Chelsea bottlers.
Millhouse has been cooked way too many times for years before this. chelsea will be back below Arsenal where they belong. Order will be maintained
Well there still bottlers. You dont spend all that money and hire 3 dufferent managers and get away with it
@@scottking869you can’t even spell “different”
@@Uglyweezer The spelling is a minor point. Question is whether Maresca is an upgrade on Poch, who finished the season on a very satisfactory note.
@@scottking869 you cant bottle something you were never going to win, spending money on transfers means nothing lmao.
Robbie FROTHING AT THE BIT to get Chelsea fans to be as delusional as Arsenal fans. He is BAYING FOR BLOOD from Matisse and just ignoring his answers
How can you call arsenal fans delusional when Arsenal have been 4 points from a title 2 seasons ago and 2 points from a title last season, against one of the greatest teams ever assembled, who have also been on trial for the last 2 years for 115-130 charges collectively
@@hartzldn now watch all rival fans either ignore this or reply with whataboutisms
@@hartzldn well arsenal fans think they are better than they actually are when they have won zero major trophies with arteta...it gets worse when they look down upon liverpool who have actually won titles with the current players and are more experienced
@@tec4321-e5o the improvements for Arsenal have come on the pitch and also the landscape of the club has MASSIVELY shifted off the pitch as well.
I value the sustainability of the club more than Immediate success, we are clearly a competitive team and have clear ambitions, and it will come soon.
The season also isn’t over.
@@tec4321-e5o what's a major trophy?
Robbie should have stopped interrupting.
The cheek for him to say stop bottling when Arsenal bottled their season three times
@@corgansow6173and how many times did Liverpool bottle the league too??😅
@@elorwatson7509and how does liverpool got smth to do with this??like huh?
@@corgansow6173 well 1 not 3 but i get your point. it's crazy
@@corgansow6173 Arsenal was chasing City last season, when did they bottle?
As a Liverpool fan Matisse's is right
Because Chelsea will dominate after this season for the next 5-10 years. Liverpool this season will win
You know I agree with Matisse, after the Fulham game I still stand by saying we are not in a title race. We’re not ready and yet we’re getting laughed at for being realistic
You guys will never be ready. Stop waffling
@@victorazamesu5469 they need to spend another billion then maybe they will enter the title race.
@@viewtifulviewer7282this whole “spent a billion” thing is so stupid. They made over 600 mil in player sales (more than any other club), have some of the lowest wages in the league and had to basically entirely replace their squad in the last year.
But you are not in any competition except conference league and prem So why can't you be in the title race 😅
@@victorazamesu5469who do you support? Anyone apart from Liverpool shut your mouth
As an Arsenal fan, Mah is very right. Its still 20/21 games left to play
An Arsenal fan telling another team to stop bottling it is the biggest projection I've seen
Only United and Arsenal fans talk titles in December, remember when Utd were top with Cavani & Ronaldo?
Arsenal fans want us to be in a title race to distract from the fact they started the season as favourites and are currently bottling it.
There is nothing to bottle, Arsenal achieved nothing
Arsenal is not in title race even when they are first .
Can't bottle it when there's no title race in December, remember?
Nothing to bottle its still December Prakesh
Chelsea fans talking loud online after going missing the past 2 years?
Of course he is right, the only delusional party in this conversation are arsenal
If you guys won Fulham would he be saying that lets be sincere
@@elorwatson7509 See thats the thing you don't get, we wouldn't. Liverpool are an insane team. With a point above us and a game in hand. How can we beat them it was impossible. This ain't Chelsea's year, we humble about that. I think Arsenal needs to also give up on this false race narrative that they have begun.
Two years ago when Arsenal were in the same position, he wasnt allowing this response from Arsenal fans 🤷🏾♂️
I am surprised by Chelsea fans being modest about their expectation given their success since the Roman days. I would have expected them to be as giddy as United fans but it hasn’t been as long since they won a major trophy so good for them for being patient.
We're not delusional like other fanbases and we've been 1st in the table in December under Tuchel and Lampard and both times we finished 4th end of season.
We Chelsea fans know what it means "IN THE TITLE RACE" 👍
Arsenal have 13, how many do you have?
@@mikelisleegunnersdad8562 Arsenal UCL'S after this statement - 0
Arsenal have also been in two more recently unlike Chelsea. Not sure what you know about 😂😂
@@mikelisleegunnersdad8562 Your lot been around 19 years longer than us (Ars1886, che1905)
@@mikelisleegunnersdad8562 WHAT A UCL TROPHY
I respect Matisse on this, there’s no point in saying something you know rivals want you to say. Arsenal are my team, if we beat Ipswich then I’d say WE are in a title race.
wasn't this supposed to be y'all season tho🤣🤣🤣 wasn't Pep the only thing stopping y'all from winning the league🤣🤣🤣🤣washed club
No one’s in a title race . The only threat to Liverpool are Liverpool themselves . There is no title race with that gap
@Billy-Billy spurs fan in the comment section with more losses than wins this season .pipe down . Go talk to Brighton and Fulham and dem man them
if you beat ipswich youll be 3rd and in more of a title race than chelsea lol
how quickly things can change
Arsenal cannot chat about bottling, they are the definition of bottling
This time last year Matisse was doing the same thing. They all wanted Arsenal fans to say they were in the title race so they can banter them when they lost the title, it’s all banter until the question is set upon your team 😂😂
These people seem to think their opinions matter to the outcome of football matches.
Seems his opinion hurt your feelings I’d cry too if I supported assnal
@ Wrong, try again chadley
Bro can keep an eye on both cameras at the same time
Matisse talking like Chelsea has more titles than arsenal 😂😂😂
Chelsea has more pl titles
@rojara24 They do during his lifetime...
In the last 20 years yes!!
Arsenal haven’t won anything in 21 years
Arsenal been around 19 years longer than Chelsea
And you are talking like Arsenal have more PL titles let alone European silverware.
As a Liverpool fan, the race doesn’t start before March!
As a Liverpool fan, I agree with him 100%
Robbie is hurt bcus they're not in the title race...
So who are in the title race 😅
@elorwatson7509 yountell me, at this moment, is there even a race?
There is no title race this year. League is done
Big up to Matisse man. Standing up Robbie and his patronising antics.
We believe you MAH
It’s almost as if rival fans don’t watch Chelsea games,if they actually paid close attention to the matches played even when winning,you can see that we not in a title race,too many things still wrong with this squad
Is this the same Matise that said Arsenal are in a title race two seasons ago but are to scared to admit it. 😂😂
Robbie just interrupts and makes noise
Don't know why robbie is obsessed with calling other teams bottle, his club has bottled the biggest lead in PL
Funny how views change when it's your team under the spot light 🤷🏿♂️
Matisse waxing eloquent about Chelsea 😂. Wait till they meet big teams.
he was always right, the whole world was trying to push and punish Chelsea & the fans to admitting something that is wrong. sure points wise it may look like it but we are not in a title race and have always been after top 4 and a trophy.
title race talk starts for us next season proper
My football history knowledge isn't good, but I've not known of a team as young and inexperienced as Chelsea's, anywhere across Europe, to win a league title. You need a team (or players within that team/squad) with experience of winning trophies and competing under pressure to win the title imo.
Seeing this from an arsenal fan is painful to watch. We have been title race holders and not trophy holders .it is disgusting.
Tbh it’s end of December/January (which is more or less now)
But yh he’s got the right idea
To be apart of a race you don’t have to be a serious competitor right to the end, that’s like saying a 100m Olympic sprinter finalist wasn’t in the race cause they didn’t finish, if you get what I mean
Common sense isn’t for everyone - but Matisse has it. Never understood this weird obsession with declaring who’s in a title race - what does that even mean before February?
Abbie and Robbie are a wierd pair. They ask questions but at the same time will not agree or listen to the response. They just want to be right all the time
Chelsea are in the title race.
But when they don’t win it they will say we were NEVER in it.
For all the intelligence I love about Matisse and looking at his age, I am sorry sir, arsenal are not Tottenham, they know what a title race and title win looks like. Let's cap correctly.
This is the real example of bottle jobs, for those of you who are to young an don't know the proper meaning, it means to be scared, to be frightened and run away from something rather than stand your ground, chelsea fans are so scared to back their team in case they fuk up, they rather sit on the fence an not back their team than get slated if they fail, the very definition of a bottle job
no. we just know what a premier league title contending team looks like. And this is not it. We aint arsenal fans. They just yap every season
@afolabiajigbolamu8457 hagahaha 1.3 billion still ain't built it then? How much more? Another billion,? Clown
Robbie you DO NOT speak for us very few realistic and non deluded arsenal fans, this was supposed to be 'the year' for us seen as though city are moving like spurs but guess what? not only have we bottled the league 11 games in, we bottled it the 3rd time in a f'ing row, you wanna talk about progression but progression leads to something and this specific 'progression' has led us absolutely nowhere, utd for crying out loud have won better trophies than us and all we have to say is we 'fought for the title for 2 seasons' simply pathetic, get rid of this cone setter and bring in a manager capable of taking us over the line, we have a very good team for the first time in more than a decade its not no 'we have dead wood so we cant win' we got rid of them and yet still cant bring in major honors? its not on the players anymore its now down to the manager and 1 we never wanted him the first place and 2 hes had enough time and its time to get rid enough's enough, we cant use the last 2 seasons as something to hype to other teams with its embarrassing asf, we have nothing to show for the last 2 seasons to be acting all high and mighty humble yourselves
We tried to tell y’all
there is nothing to bottle
liverpool will win the premier league
Arsenal fans are so annoying.
Not all, only Robbie
@@ignatiusrj4787it’s all of you
Robbie never just says yes or no, so quite the hypocrite.
Robbie is so annoying, how can you bottle a title race by saying you are not in the title race 🤦🏽♂️😂😂 this guy needs help
Of course Chelsea are in the title race, top 4 half-way through the season if that's not 'in the race' then what is? That's not the same as saying 'chelsea will win the title' though is it?
Guy that qualified fourth on the grid in formula one is definitely 'in the race'.
Rob is wrong on alot of things. But he was right about RUclips so it doesn't matter 😂
All this yet people from other teams were saying arsenal out of the title race after 6 games so don't start moving the goal posts now 😂😂😂😂
If one loss means ur not in a title race then that means ur just not in a title race. Are nottigham forest in a title race as well by this dum fan logic
Robbie is as deluded as Ty or even worse
Chelsea fan beginning to sound like spurs fans pathetic 😂😂😂😂
It's not about sounding like spurs or anybody this is Chelsea we know our standard and we can all see the weakness in our squad all over the pitch so why will we say we are in a title race when there's a lot of weakness
1 youngest squad in the league without any experience
2 no good goalkeeper
3 no good solid center back
4 we still need a solid center forward
5 our players have never been under pressure or anything before and probably Enzo is probably the only player that has played under pressure and delivered for is country.
So when u see all this factor we are definitely not in title and if u look at every other team challenging for the title they only have probably 1 weaknesses which is solid center forward for arsenal and Liverpool, there's no way we can compete with them
Are forest in a title race?
@@olorunfemiayomide5030 like I said pathetic,it’s like running a race and you running so hard ,working so hard sweating and breathing with all your lungs without any intention of winning
You sound pathetic
This is why i can't stand Robbie. In a nutshell. Arsenal fans 😂
Arsenal fans
Liverpool are the real underdogs. Chelsea spend billion pounds and bought Liverpool targets like caicedo, enzo Fernandez which would have been crucial for liverpool midfield yet Liverpool is leading lmao 😂. Keep staying humble.
You're right, it's not like Chelsea made 900 mil in outgoings or anything. And it's not like that 1 billion was spent on players under the age of 26 with little to no experience with silverware, bar Enzo. And it's also not like a large portion of that money was spent in the past 2 seasons where Chelsea fans could only dream of top 4 rather than run their mouths online to rivals that desperately want us to be in a title race for some reason.
With all that together, I guess we should be fighting for the league in December huh
Everyone keeps mentioning billion spent but none wants to mention players were sold...players that are part of that billion also
Interested to see who Chelsea sell to cover their 1 billion+ spend
Already made 900 mill from sales, if we get rid of sterling, Childwall, and mudryk all will be covered, interesting to see how arsenal will cover the 700 mill spend
@@bruh-ic7sb nah you don't get it, us selling mount, kai, rlc, koulibay etc., doesn't count because it doesn't fit the "you spent 1bill" narrative thst everyone loves using out of context. Apparently most of that billion that we spent, on YOUNGSTERS btw, means we should be challenging for the title since its clear to see they're all galacticos.
@bruh-ic7sb Chelsea financially are in a much worse position than Arsenal. You've spent alot more than you've gained and you need to pay everyone's wages. You'll probably need to sell another 7 or 8 players to avoid ffp.
@nathanreddy3199 you are clueless af, the owners have sold their hotels and gave the players long term contract, stop waffling nonsense like the rest of the media and focus on your own team, what have assna sold to cover their 700 mill spending?
@@nathanreddy3199 lmao you really don't know anything about our club other than the non sense the media pushes do you? We sold alot of players who were on high wages, mount, kai, koulibay, kova, lukaku etc., and signed youngsters on lower wages with perfomance based bonuses so no our wage structure isn't an issue and we won't have an issue in that regard with ffp lmao.
Everyone is in the race until it's mathematically impossible otherwise whats the point. Doesn't Everyone want to win the league? Or are you just making up the numbers. Leicester City were in the title race from day 1 untill the end of the season when they won the league. You can be in a title race and then not be in it. That is allowed 😂 its as if you can only be in a title race once you have won it. Surely your in with a chance as long g as the maths says so. 🤦♂️
This cole palmer team are nowhere near good enough to win the league - they'll need to spend another billion first.
That's why that referee called you sh*t . Why you hate chelsea so much?That isn't our problem you rejected by Enzo,lavia,mount .it's because you aren't attractive enough to be player's dream
Joker
@olorunfemiayomide5030 I'm just agreeing with all the chelsea fanboys out there...
The question wasnt "are you going to win the league". Chelsea were in the title fight because of the form and based on the teams they beat. The whole of chelsea were just too scared to admit that because they didnt want to roasted if they fail
Never won against the big 6 except spurs - sounds like a title race to me /s
There’s no such thing as a title race/fight in December ffs 😂
It's not about sounding like spurs or anybody this is Chelsea we know our standard and we can all see the weakness in our squad all over the pitch so why will we say we are in a title race when there's a lot of weakness
1 youngest squad in the league without any experience
2 no good goalkeeper
3 no good solid center back
4 we still need a solid center forward
5 our players have never been under pressure or anything before and probably Enzo is probably the only player that has played under pressure and delivered for is country.
Are forest in a title race? Because forest have beaten better teams than we have
When Ange came in and won 10 in a row then capitulated, was that a title race???no cause title races don't start in dec
1 billion pounds😂😂😂😂💀 cant even win a trophy
We’ll dominate in 2-3 years, we bought young for a reason
@ okey👍 Countiniue too have a Merry Christmas and have a happy new year🎅🎅🎅🎄🎄