Cooking in Wild Clay Pottery - Part 2.5 - Making Pots (Again)
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- Опубликовано: 27 окт 2022
- This is part of a series which I intend to conclude by cooking a meal in a pot made from clay I dug out of the ground. In this part, I'll make some more pots to replace the ones that failed in the firing. I'll also look a little at what went wrong last time.
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Southampton Local Wares: The term 'local' is applied to pottery which was made in, or close to, the Late Saxon town. Furthermore, it is suggested that such wares were produced mainly, if not specifically, to supply settlements on the Southampton peninsula. These are fabrics and forms which quantitatively dominate this assemblage, and characterise any group of Late Saxon ceramics excavated there. Four fabrics have been distinguished within this group, two of which are grouped together as Flint-tempered Wares. Flint-tempered Wares -Flint-tempered pottery is die most common local product. A sandy version and a gritty type have been identified. The distinction is based on the relative quantities of flint temper, as both are very similar in other respects. Flint-tempered Sandy ware, contains a moderate amount of medium-coarse natural flint in a sandy clay matrix. Other inclusions are chalk, organics, red iron and shell. Flint-tempered Gritty Ware, Fabric 1000, has an abundant quantity of ill sorted natural flint in a sandy clay matrix comparable to Fabric 900. Chalk, organics, shell and red iron are all common inclusions. Both fabrics are red-firing, and colours vary from black, when reduced, through grey to brown and red. Sometimes the whole colour range occurs over the surface of a single pot. All vessels were handbuilt, although some rims appear to have been added while rotating the vessel on a turntable. Vessel walls are thick, and the quality of manufacture and firing seems rather crude.
The similarities between these two fabrics suggests a similar source area for both of them. Sandy potting clays and flint gravel are both readily available on the Southampton peninsula. Shell and chalk occur in die local fluvial gravels and clays (Timby 1988, 104). Evidence that these wares were produced in the town comes in the form of possible waster fragments, in Flinttempered Gritty Ware, from SOU 175. The outer surfaces have spalled, and rim and body sherds are badly distorted. Some fragments have fired to a red colour throughout, while others have the typical black core, suggesting that the vessel broke during firing.
Local Forms: Cooking Pots-The cooking pot or jar is the most common form among the local wares and in the whole assemblage. This is typically a round-based vessel with an everted rim (Fig 2, 1 and 2), a type that is recognised throughout southern England for this period (Cunlifie, 1976, 186). The variety of size shown in these vessels may indicate an extensive range of functions, but most examples have sooting on the base, suggesting that they were used primarily in die heating of their contents. All vessels of this form are therefore referred to here as cooking pots.
PRODUCTION, TECHNIQUE, TRADITION All die pottery classed as local was handbuilt. The evidence suggests use of the coil-building technique and some vessels appear to have been finished while being turned. No evidence for kiln structures has been found and it is likely that local pottery was fired in clamps or bonfires. The cooking pot form seen here has parallels in Hamwic and postConquest Southampton and fits into a tradition current all over southern England from the 7 th to the 13th century. The complete lack of any decoration on these vessels contrasts with some of the Middle Saxon stamped types (Timby 1988) and apart from a few bowls the plain cooking pot seems almost to be the limit of both local ceramic achievement and local pottery-makers' ambitions
Thanks for that. I'm really surprised flint was used as temper as it has a reputation for exploding when heated. Gives me a little bit more hope for the pots I've made that inevitably still have some small flint grit in them
@@AtomicShrimp coming from a completely unqualified kid who’s never touched a kiln in his life, but I’ve heard that the reason rocks explode under heat is trapped water boiling off creating pressure.
milling flint probably wouldn’t trap as much water as large flaky stones.
@@firstletterofthealphabet7308 I have heard the same. When a kid who joined the Scouts, we were warned to only use dry rocks to make our fire rings, lest they explode when heated. Although, like warnings about 2 hammers shattering when struck together, I have never even heard of this happening.
@@firstletterofthealphabet7308 flint isn't very porous, but it does take on water slowly. The lack of porosity is the reason it pops when heated - not much water in there but it can't get out
@@AtomicShrimp No wories, did you find the document from my copy paste? I can give you a link but im not sure if the spam filter will block it. The book is BROWN: POTTERY AND LATE SAXON SOUTHAMPTON
I love the term "wild clay" because it implies feral and domesticated minerals
I prefer to forge my swords from iron that has roamed free
@@oz_jones it's more rich in magnesium and carbon, less copper and aluminum.
@@jwalster9412 a cual pun
regrettably "wild clay" is tainted for me as a local grocery chain uses "wild harvested" as the slogan for their natural foods line. On milk cartons it brings to mind the image of a milk maid brandishing a pail and stool while chasing an auroch through the woods 😁.
it's a conspiracy it's organic and free range being portrayed as wild.
My children cheered when I told them, "He made more pots!!!"
No questions, no discussion. They knew precisely what I'd meant. Please make more of these videos! We love them.
I love this series and it's the same thing I said to my partner! It's 10/10
@@catstify you built like a clay pot
Wholesome
This looks so much like a bot comment, but it's probably not.
@@jwalster9412 you built like a clay pot too
I’ve tried to explain to people why I like your videos so much. For me, it’s because you enjoy trying stuff that’s new and different. You’ve broken the mediocrity and routine nature that life can become, and you set yourself challenges and learn. Honestly, you’re an absolute inspiration Sir Shrimp.
@@joesender daddy*
For me the channel is a quiet place of sanity and calm. With occasional belly laughs.
I get a grandad vibe who can teach you life skills
Isn't it impossible to put words on it.. I think it's just how relaxed and real he is. We've all forgotten about the simple things
Let’s be real, it’s our autism.
I happened to be watching a video about Cherokee pottery techniques, and I found something interesting I thought you'd enjoy! Apparently, the Cherokee used to put a corncob inside whatever vessle they were going to cook, and when the cob began to smoke, they knew they could push it into the fire without risk of shock. I'm not sure how well it would work, but it's a neat idea!
Speaking as a person who probably takes themselves far too seriously most of the time... I absolutely love the sense of whimsy and curious discovery you have. I've really enjoyed watching this journey so far, and I look forward to more.
I am constantly amazed that you are able to find the time to undertake such an enormously wide range of time-consuming activities: long walks, walking spoons, foraging, cooking, scam-baiting, cost-restricted menus (such as living on £1 a day for several days), weird stuff in cans, etc., etc., the list seems endless. I can't find any satisfactory substitute for the most obvious cliché to describe you: a 21st-century Renaissance man. 👍🏻 I never miss a single one of your videos, and I watch every second of each one, from beginning to end. Many, many thanks for all the wonderful things I have learnt about through your videos. 🙏🏻
The clay pot saga continues!
Oh my goodness I can't believe how invested I am in this project! Can't wait for the next episode! Thanks Shrimp
This is my favorite YT channel. Between your content, your presentation, and your voice/accent, this is the YT equivalent of comfort food
was up late last night thinking about mr shimp and his pots. glad to see this update today. Im not sure how much longer I could have handled the suspense
The way you describe working with clay. "Daydreaming with my hands" is my favorite part of the hobby. For me it's about the journey, not the destination
It's the little bits of wisdom that you drop along the way which make you one of my favourite channels, the bit about the scenic method of making things really spoke to me. You've inspired me to get into crafting stuff, amongst other types of projects. Just finished waxing a pair of canvas trousers and a rucksack yesterday.
It's honestly so lovely to see you experimenting and having fun with it rather than doing the most efficient route, it's how happy accidents are made much like the wobbly leaf pot, excited to see how they turn out!
I have zero interest in doing any of this, and yet I find this series of videos absolutely riveting. Can't wait for the next one.
When you're more excited about Mr. Shrimp's pot making adventures, then anything going on in your own life 😅
I’m so invested in this, I need to know how the ArtiFossil comes out!
Wow loving this series, even if they fail I just love your analysis of how you can succeed, I think most want success but you are so grounded that even with failure you take the positive. Keep making videos atomic shrimp you make days dark lighter again
This makes me appreciate the work that goes into the pots you destroy so casually in Zelda games
Your words at 12:31 - 12:48 resonate with me greatly. This not only goes for pottery or handywork. It is applicable to most if not all professions.
So relaxing and instructive, I love this series !
I love this series. Such a great series to unwind to.
Aww that sweet memory of Steph's pot made my heart smile. I love it that you're inviting your children to join you in your videos.
I do enjoy videos of professionals showing us their craft, but there is something likeable about going through the learning process with you Mike. This is a good series.
Your ability to face failure with curiosity is inspiring, been enjoying this serious a bunch!
I'm really enjoying this series far more than anticipated. I've never had an interest in pottery before, but knowing all the details and different ways it can be done is so fascinating.
Really enjoying these videos. I like that you are trying to discover the rules without looking too much at other sources (I'm assuming you did some research but you don't seem to be following a guide) - its sort of like trying to recreate the history of how people worked out how to make pots. I think digging a deeper hole will help, if only to sheild the wind and even out the temperature profile. I like the idea of covering over the pit once the fuel is exhausted so it cools very slowly. Its good you have friends that don't mind you digging holes and setting light to them in their garden!
I love this series! I'm so intrigued about what the final result will be ☺️
You could read the ingredients of paint to me and I'll still hang on every word. This is a fantastic series!
I've no idea what possesses me to watch your content, but I'm glad I do 😁
As partly an artist/maker/teacher of ceramics, that has used home-brew clay like this, I have found this a very interesting series. I used clay from Cambridgeshire where I live, and much of my refining and making process was made a little easier purely because I had access to a pottery studio. It was not easy clay to work with, and I found it suited throwing more than coiling because it did not like being over 1cm thick, or having uneven thickness at all. It also tended to dry in my hands quite quickly, I have hot hands for a potter. (It also melted completely at stoneware temperatures..... but that's another story.... involving a thoroughly ruined kiln shelf.) The Cambridge clay was blue grey in colour before firing, and fired to a toasty yellow orange.
If you were going to do much of this, it would be worth casting a/some thick plaster bowl forms to use as moulds instead of glass/wood/metal, because the plaster leaches moisture from the clay, making it quicker and easier to build onto, and the clay drops out of it naturally when its ready to be handled.
Also don't be in too much of a rush to make a vessel in one sitting if at all possible, it is perfectly fine to let the clay harden to almost leather hard before adding more coils, at most you may need to score and slip it, but usually just adding water with a brush or sponge and rubbing the surface will wake it up enough to join perfectly. This waiting time to let the clay settle and harden will also make it very much easier for you to get the form and thinner walls you may want, and help stop sagging/flattening and warping of the form as you make it, especially with this type of wild clay.
Two tools I can't recommend enough when coiling are: 1. any sort of of turn table. Picking up and moving/handling a wet pot will alter and weaken it's form. 2. A fine toothed serrated tool, preferably kidney shaped, it makes smoothing the coils together on the first pass much quicker, with less pressure, so the form is easier to keep. I also like to use a diagonal upward stroke on the inside and diagonal down on the outer, as it helps to keep the rounded form and adds overall strength. ( a smooth kidney for the refining is also very useful) I also like burnishing with the backs of spoons... purely because they have a handle.
lastly, I have found the more regular your coils are when you roll them, the easier it will be to build and finish your pot. It is far easier to control form and thicknesses.
Sorry for the novel.... and if any of this was unwanted or already known advice... just my thoughts upon watching your making process.... and was kindly meant.
The first pot looks like a forbidden Easter egg
Now this is dedication, Mike.
Soldier on, you'll get there in the end. 👍
i am loving this series, can't wait for the next episode, i'd say it's my second favourite, my favourite is the scam bating, 3rd is the rambling through the woods
Glad to see more of this series! Just wanted to say I love your content!!!
"Unviably floppy" Don't worry, it happens to us all.
Been waiting for this, good man Shrimpy!
One thing I love about this series of videos is that helps show exactly how important the evolution of pottery was to human development, something that is often overlooked. I can image an ancient Humanoid going through the same trial and error processes you have gone through.
What's most tantalising to think of is... How did it start? There must have been some breakthrough moment when somebody figured out that heating the clay made it durable
@@AtomicShrimp Indeed, and we will probably never know.
Really really love this series. More traditional craft series? Natural medicine? Shelter building? Wood whittling?
How am I so emotionally invested in a bunch of pots??
You have the patience of a saint. I need to learn to be more like you. Take in the experience.
I am particularly excited about the spherical pot! Looking forward to the next update :)
6:27
HELLO GORDON!
surely I'm not the only one who's neurons flared up at that quote
Perfect to watch when winding down for the night
yay you're on the right track.
Your ideas for a larger fire and adding more fuel to have enough ashes to protect the pots is spot on. (Toasting the dry pots around a small fire before stacking them for the bon fire can help with too sudden heating.)
The technical term you were seeking to describe your fluted pot is "wibbly wobbly".
The ingredient you noticed in the unrefined clay that acts plastic but doesn't add strength in the fired or unfired states is probably silt, flour size silica particles.
Your observation about grog decreasing plasticity more than a like amount of sand is correct. Grog is greedy for water and will steal it from the clay minerals making them less plastic as well as diluting them.
It looks like you're prospering from your work philosophy of learning about pottery from the clay by using the most primitive materials and techniques. 🥇ichiban style.
Great new episode of this series
Really liked the look of these pots
Love these videos! A breath of fresh air.
What a wonderful video! I really do enjoy this series, and this meandering path you've chosen is quite relaxing and just good for the soul, if that makes sense? And hey, it even makes for more Atomic Shrimp content, which is always a plus in my book
This is one reason I would love to try something like this; experimentation and failures should be reasons for learning. Learning about why the pots fail after firing can be a good portion of the process.
Take a backup of the pots. If the firing fails again, you can always do a roll-back to version 2.5 or maybe 2.4.
Def one of my favourite active series that I'm following on the internet atm.
Thank you for these. I'll be trying this in a few weeks myself and you've given me a bit of a head start. You and Andy Ward.
I never knew waiting for pot making videos could fill me with such suspense XD. Looking forward to seeing the firing
I am quite interested by pottery and
All art forms related to it, so I’m very
Interested by this video series.
If I could double like this video I would!
the round pot looks lovely
If you don't want your clay to dry out like that in storage, you should keep the clay stored in a sealed container with water in the bottom, with the clay elevated above the water. That way it keeps the humidity in the clay. Apparently that's how ancient Chinese potters kept their clay, and the longer it ages like that, the better the clay becomes.
I did that with my own wild clay and I think it really improved the plasticity of the clay after I had stored it for several months. As well it was at a perfect hydration level.
Good luck with firing this time! I'm really enjoying your clay series
Such an inspiration! Yes, 18:00 i like that pot shape too
I really enjoy most of your videos. I am really enjoying this series. thank you!
Really enjoying this series. I did a couple 6wk classes at the local clay co-op over the last year and really enjoyed the process. There's something so primitive, simple and creative about creating these clay items with your hands.
14:23 I’m loving your attitude of ~ “Hey, I know what let’s try!” Good times.
Well done, sir. Wishes, toward a healthy and happy holidays for you and yours. 🙏
Edit: What I’m trying to convey is: Brilliant. 👍
This is such a therapeutic series! Thank you so much for sharing it.
fascinating as always ! Never stop please !!!!!
Loving this series. Long may it continue!
really enjoying this pottery series!
I'm really loving this series :D
It'll be exciting to see how they all turn out!
Who would have thought clay pots could be so exciting? I suspect our ancient ancestors blood is still flowing strongly within us and watching a man discovering how to use the earth to cook his food is fascinating to the core of our being.
Really enjoying this series
Ooooh, cooking with clay! So really interesting. ALL your videos fly by! Thank you from Herefordshire.
Even though it had issues to make, the last spherical piece is my favourite too. Good luck again 👍
Good job Mr Shrimp. Looking forward to how they turn out. The wavy pot is my favourite however I think that will end up in pieces after firing.
I'm loving this new series 😍
I can't belive I didn't get the fact that your daughter made a vulva pot until you brought back the joke with the oak leaf
Your pots are looking better and better, lovely job!
I'm really enjoying these videos, it's nice to watch others working. 🙂👍
I love the non-food videos you make Shrimp, your library of videos is so diverse. Keep em coming
I'm excited to see if the quirky quiche pot makes it!
Love your videos this series may be life saving info , keep up the great work…peace
Can't wait to see the results!
Still loving this series! I know a few people who are experts at this sort of thing (harvesting, forming, and firing natural clay), but I really am enjoying the not-so-expert experimentation. ❤
Keep 'em coming!
I don't usually watch your content other than scambaiting, but I've been enjoying this series quite a lot.
I'm an avid viewer of your videos and have to say I get pleased when I see a new upload so thank you for filming all your random shit, I love it, this is really what this platform was for 👊
the round one you made at the end is by far my favourite one too. It has such a medieval feel to it. Makes me wanna make my own.
Good stuff Mike! I was into pottery when I was younger, and the frustration is real, lol. You can make what you THINK is the perfect piece, but tiny flaws in the clay/heating/cooling can render it useless. You're making great progress, keep at it and don't let failures get to you, I much prefer smithing, as metal is easier for me to "read" and gauge when heating and forging.
oooh, I'm hyped for the ArtiFossil
God i love how the Timeline is evolving
More drama and thrill here than any stream media series.
I love it.
Very interesting. I saw a program about the clay warriors uncovered in China. They were made by the coil method as well.
I eagerly eagerly await your next video mr shrimp! I go to MIT in Cambridge (US) so I'm vicariously living in nature through your videos! We have a lot of similar interests so any time I watch a video of yours I know I'm in for something I really enjoy!
I tried to make bricks with clay in Florida, but dried them in the sun so they cracked a lot. I was about ten so couldn't make a fire. I'm not sure when I'll ever be able to do stuff like this again
Excited, thank you shrimp
If you don't know what a pot used to be? It's an ash tray. In the 80's, in school, when we did pottery, evey part that was too shitty, was an ash tray!
lol in school when we made potter our teacher told us to make school appropriate things. One of the kids in my class made a piece that definitely looked like an ash tray and my teacher went up to him and asked what he was making. A sucker holder, totally not an ash tray lolol
@@atsed11 *lol* a sucker holder! Good one.
You have no idea how excited I am to see these pots cook something
Sending luck to the pots... and the artifossil
I can't begin to imagine what the actual timeline of this series is
Really interesting. Thank you.
With all of your work with this project I hope you get a pot that does the trick.
Making pot is always a good idea 😁
Seeing the time, effort and care that goes into making these pots... makes me feel bad now every time I break them in Zelda to get 1 Rupee.
I'm loving this series, it has a real Primitive Technology vibe to it
I love this. I hate the waiting.
Oh my. My life has now gone all to pot.