How to Diagnose BMW Transfer Case Actuator Gear Failure E83 X3 E53 X5 Brake ABS 4X4 Lights On 5F39
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The weak plastic gear wears out over time and can be replaced for very little money. Don't let the dealer quote you $4,000 USD for a new transfer case. If you're experiencing any of the following, you may need to replace your transfer case gear:
*Brake, ABS, and 4x4 traction control lights on - sometimes intermittently
*If you hear the trademark clicking coming from under the car when you turn it off
*Scanning the car shows BMW specific trouble code 5F39
*Unusually poor gas mileage as a result of transfer case lock up
To scan your BMW you will need a BMW specific scan tool that will allow you to access the codes in the transmission and other various computer modules, a generic OBD-II scanner will NOT let you access all of the systems. I recommend the Creator C310 for its ease of use and because it is very inexpensive. Buy yours here: amzn.to/2YubmBh
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Great video! I'm nearing 179k miles and mine just failed on me. Took it to the dealer and they said exactly what others have said (quoted me for $3k saying it's the transfer case). Definitely going to purchase a gear and DIY.
And did it work?
@@s.medina3661 Nope! I was successful in replacing the actuator gear which did show signs of wear. I took the vehicle into BMW to get the hookup on diagnosing/resetting the codes. They didn't go away and the Transfer case ended up getting replaced anyway. Total cost was around $4500 and since mine is a manual X3, it took over a month to find the right transfer case to match. I'm at 193k miles now.
@@xiayu27 but the dealer erased the codes related to the transfer case for you when you took it in after you replaced the gear? Im guessing the codes came back? I wonder if replacing the entire actuator motor would result in the same scenario.
@@s.medina3661 Correct, and I wondered this too! The actuator motor itself could have been an easier swap than cracking it open and swapping the gear itself out. I took the lazy way out and let them keep the vehicle to do the work rather than taking it back and ordering an actuator motor to swap.
I remember the first time that gear went out a couple years ago I think now. I watched your video a few times and sure enough you were a %100 correct. When I pulled out the gear at first it wasn’t really that bad, but just bad enough to through a code apparently. I’ve been plagued with the X5 4.4, so I got really good at fixing my own issues, thanks to you sir. We all appreciate the guidance 👍🏻
Archangel 751 thanks man I appreciate you! Yes, we have to DIY as much as possible on these old tanks to make it work... it just gets too expensive!
In case any one wants to know if its their gear that is bad, i have done this replacement many times, start your car and shut it off with door open if you hear a noise under car after car is off then its your gear that need to be replaced, If you do not hear a noise its def your transfer case 99% of time
Hi Rich,
REALLY VALUABLE information for owners with those cars !
Cheers!
Cheers Philip
@BIMMER ZEIT saludos desde Costa Rica excelente video podrías activar la traducción de tus videos con subtítulos en español sería genial gracias
I replaced my actuator, on my BMW X3 2006, because the brake light and four-wheel drive came on, it went into limp mode. You can turn the key off driving down road for about 8 Miles. It does the same thing again turn key of , start route backup, and runs fine. Brake light comes on, four-wheel drive light comes back on. The actuator is brand new.
BMW has this transercase problem since day 1 it introduced X drive and it does not brother to fix it as the engine oil pan leak problem but instead spends too much time to fine tune its engines and created something that does not sell such as laser head lights. 2024 X3 still uses old stock of signal control stick that is twenty years old module.
Thanks for this - how can I be certain that I am buying the correct part or replacement for my x3? also should I get gear replacement or the one with servo included? TIA
Mine failed around 118k miles about a year ago, very easy fix.
BLACK BIMMER thanks for sharing that data point! I think 115-120k miles is typically the window where the original transfer case gear actuator fails.
this guy is a legend.
Very good info, hopefully it is only the gear, dash says 4x4, and the suspension, no abs or check engine code, waiting for code reader!
I don’t think I’ve ever acknowledged how much you e taught me @bimmerzeit…you’re really the best EVER!
Do also sell for 2 series gran tourer 2016 automatic?
Hello, Problem solved thanks changed entire actuator! Should I go get the Transfer case fluid change have 185,000 on the dash not sure it has ever been change, the dealer price 350.00 + Silvia
Yep I would recommend getting the case fluid changed. It’s most likely black by now if never been done. You saved $4000 - congrats!!
Is this the same for 328xi? I got all the symptoms
Hi, my X3 E83 have a noise, rough and clanking sound every time I start the car in the morning but after like 30 seconds or so it went off, what do you think the solution for this? Thanks for the help and more power to your channel.
Thanks
@26southpaw, I have the same issue - have you identified what’s causing this? Thanks.
I have same problem any idea what it is thanks
It's your electronic actuator on your turbo.
@@andythemason3578 open hood have someone cold start engine. If you hear the sound pridominitly coming from the exhaust area piticulurly at your turbo. It's the actuator being noisy. Won't hurt anything.
Replaced that nylon gear with a aluminum one and bloody mint no more issue (for me that is
I also did over pack it with grease
Great video. Does this fix ‘Trans Failsafe Prog’ warning on dash? Cheers.
Great vid!! But does this gear fit e90 335i? Im not sure if the x3,5 has the same gear as the e90
We have a 2011 BMW X3 xDrive28i and it is making a clicking/grinding noise from underneath the car. We took it to a reputable BMW mechanic and he says that the clicking is coming from the transfer case and that the entire transfer case needs to be replaced. I am dubious that the issue is this severe, and mentioned your video and the fix and he indicated that your fix is only for vehicles made before 2010, our vehicle is 2011. Before I spend $6000.00, I am thinking about doing this fix that you are talking about. Do you know if this will work on a 2011 and if it will, which parts do I need to purchase to fix the vehicle? Thank you for posting this and for your time... Jeff
Great video, spot on advise. Thanks so much!!
Hello, I have a 2005 bmw X5, I changed the gear on the actuator and the 4*4 light was still there until I reset the steering angle sensor with a scanner. Moreover, I noticed the vehicle cannot be driven for long as it goes into limp mode or transmission failsafe mode. I have to shut it off and then restart after a few minutes. This vehicle was in an accident 8yrs years where front of it was damaged.
I am having a 2004 X3 3.0, had the trasfer case servo replaced. My mechanic's diagnose system kit asking to input 4 digits value which he had no idea of. Wonder you could help out, thanks ahead.
Can you help? I changed the whole transfer case gear in my car, but the lights are still turning on.
Wait - does the Amazon link work for a 2003. I’ve got one sitting in my eBay cart but if this works - it’s at least $10 cheaper and will get here sooner
Perhaps you can help me. I have no lights on and no clicking (I’ve also got a manual gearbox. I hear a “grinding” noise, especially in 5th gear at around 1500 rpm. Is this common?
I'm getting all these lights + the clicking. Could this be the cause of the P0700 code? Or is that a separate issue?
'05 BMW X3 (2.5)
Where can I get my abs module to get repair
Hey bro u just saved me A LOT of god dam money. Bless ur heart! Thought my transmission failed it was really just the gear teeth there
Hey man I have a BMW X5 2003 4.4 in first gear I get a major clunk from the rear and the rear drivers side wheel feels like rubber is rubbing any ideas ? I have abs and brake lights on no 4x4 lights on
Can I program the transfer case with the scan tool your using??
Would you happen to know where I can purchase a transfer actuator motor gear for a 2002 bmw 325xi? I've searched high and low and can't find a supplier. Or, is there a compatible gear you sell? Please assist. Thank you in advance.
Thank you. I read a whole lot of messages boards before seeing this. You nailed the location of the grinding sound. this gives me a lot of confidence I have the same issue.
And a low cost solution is available!!! Are you kidding me? Thank you, and well done.
Question(My 2007 x3): My transfer case was changed to a used one and it removed the ABS/Brake/4x4 lights from being on. Now I hear a scratching sound from the back that was NEVER present before. Do you have a professional opinion what could be happening or what could be checked?
Dust shield rubbing/ scratching on the rotor disc. Brake dust shield need tweaking so it don't rub.
Cause: setting preload on suspension/ control arm ( bushings) can accidentally bend the thin shield under or around rotor (s)
I have an e70 doing this but only when I start & also intermittent got the 4x4 awd dsc light. just got the transfer case actuator done but the noise came back & so did the codes any insight on my personal war??😭 please help
Super helpful!
bought my parts new on fcp euro and even had the transfer case oil changed ...
Transfer case ::: My mechanic is telling me that if I change out the oil A couple times and running it and beating it up a little bit in my 528i . He said nine times out of 10 it knocks out the stuttering with the shifting. Do you think that is possible ??
Will this gear work for a 2008 Bmw 528xi lci?
Brilliant video may thanks
Great video...thanks! I have a whining gear noise that my local BMW shop said is the transfer case, and he said I need a replacement, which was quoted at $3K for a refurbished unit...I'm wondering of course, if replacing the transfer motor, or just the transfer motor gear will resolve it? Does you car make a gear noise, or just the warning light and code?
Can you upload a video of the noise? RUclips, Instagram, Facebook... upload somewhere and link me to it. Also, why not just try the gear anyway with a few hours work. Before jumping into a $3,000 bill!
@@BIMMERZEITT I could get a video or audio recording together...I realize this gear is not for my 2011 335i Xdrive though...so that's not an option...Thanks
My 2016 x5m noise when turning and it feels like something is rubbing. Took it to 3 bmw mechanics .. two are saying the transfer case .. before I go to the dealer should I buy the reader from Amazon??
Do you repair for other in ct? Need to get this fix on my x3
My mechanics telling me if I change out the oil in the transfer case it will knock out the stuttering that is happening. He’s giving me odds of nine out of 10 times it works. Your thoughts?
Question ; i dont have any lights of 4x4 or brake , but i cant comunicate with my dxc module
Hi I had those lights on so I went a head and ordered the entire module not just the gears, I replaced the module after market not Bosh and drove about 10 miles with it, everything was fine until I started the car again I was getting into the Hwy and all the lights came back and the car started to behave weird, it almost felt like I had no power finally I gas it up and manage to get up to 80 and bring it home, what do think that happened?
The same happened to me. What did you do after the lights came back after replacing the whole transfer case??
where are you located I have this same vehicle
That's the exact problem with my BMW X3. What is the cost of a Transfer Case Actuator Gear..??
great points here guys.
No other cars besides bmw x drives have this transfer case/gear issues every single bmw x i had had a issue with this sometime u can just get away with just replacing the actuator if you are lucky, but its i ashame bmw made this part of the car so fragile and very costly to replace ..
I replaced mine and have 5F3A & 5F39 code. It was stripped. I still have abs and 4x4 lights.. what should I do? 🚨🙁
My red gear light Abs 4×4 traction control lights on . with this gear being bad cause me to lose power when trying to drive
I was hearing the actuator clicking after turning off the car.. Before I had chance to replace the gear my x3 went into limp mode.. So I replaced the gear but now what do I do about resetting the limp mode? Or will it reset itself? Or should i push to mechanic? Please help thanks
Cleared all codes generic code reader..
Cleaned 4 speed sensors..spark plugs. camshaft/crankshaft sensors, maf and checked all fluids.. Disconnected battery for 3 days.. I'm scared to turn ignition and see the Christmas lights.. It's not even thanksgiving yet
Does it need recalibration once fitted
I change the gear lights are still on what do you think it’s a problem it looked like a brand new gear when I opened it up I’m thinking the previous owner must’ve just got it done, do you think it needs a new actuator motor maybe that’s the problem? What other issues could cause it do think?
I would try a new actuator assembly, yes
I did watch your previous video back in 2018 I believe...
Hi Rich .. I used the scanner u recommend and used the link, it read 1. 5 FOC DSC sensor internal.
And 2. D35C no message (transfer case) 192.
I can deal with no 2. But I need your advice should I change The DSC sensor. I take a look your video one by one.. I could not find related to changing DSC sensor X3 2005.?
Thank you your time and help 🙏
Does anybody know what this gear even does because I have been driving with a likely failed gear with no lights and no noticeable difference in my TC (transfer case)? I flushed the fluid a while back with OEM and it seemed to help too.
Could you please do a video on which repair is most likely when the gear exclamation trans light pops on the lower right side of dash. I replaced the crankcase position sensor which didn't solve it. Also I heard it coukd be the stop(brake) light switch on the brake pedal?? What else could it be?
Hey bud I’m not exactly sure which light you have but check your owner manual to identify what the warning is. I’d recommend using an inexpensive c310 scan tool to check for your trans and/or ABS codes and begin diagnosing at that point
im contacting the shop tomorrow and asking if they erased the codes or not ...
Mechanics did scan and still are clueless!
Codes say 227 & 228 which are o2 bank 2 control deviation and o2 bank 1 control deviation..
Also I have 4x4 DSC Inactive light on and hear grinding noise underneath at stops.
I assume Transfer Case Motor or Gear ??? Or oil ???
It feels like brake lock on when I stop down a hill..
What could it be???
Also...
My check engine light has Always been on for years ( Map Thermostat) which every mechanic told me not to bother replacing...
Recently The car has trouble starting every morning and when low on fuel.
Maybe Fuel pump Relay??
Fuel pressure regulator??
Fuel filter??
Fuel Injectors ??
They cant figure it out!
I Went to 20 car shops in 3 weeks and am really frustrated :(
What could it be ???
Bmw X5 2006 3.0
Hello, I had all three light on I took it to bmw for my x3 E83 they replace steering angle sensor then now they recommend new Transfer Case at 4000+ which I declined, the only light on now is the 4x4 do u feel that it could be the Transfer Case Actuator Gear ??? Also they will not replace just the Gear, please let me know you opinion .Thank You !
What’s the mileage? Has the gear ever been replaced before? I would replace the gear for sure, at a local repair shop. BMW wants $$ no surprise there.
180,000 miles not sure if it was ever done I got it at 130,000
@@silviataylor92 definitely replace the gear or entire actuator first. Your local shop shouldn’t charge more than 2 hrs labor for that job. Very easy. Try that first before looking at any other options! Be well.
Thank You!!!
@@silviataylor92 also note, the tires need to be changed all four at the same time. Has a single tire or pair ever been changed exclusively? All four need to be replaced at the same time, or it can cause a transfer case failure in extreme cases.
From iraq well done this was helpfull
Had a similar problem first gear clunk. Reset tcm. Key on engine off hold down gas pedal for 15 seconds and voila😅🤣🤪
Is there any signal to let you know when it’s done properly?
Excellent, thank you so much, i am in SA i need a new gear and a Diagnostic tool, currently i am servicing the Transfer case and Gearbox, replacing the Transfer case chain and doing Clutch pack and Torque Converter, can i ask? Your servo motor gear, is it stronger than the standard gear? I think you said its re-in forced? Can you airfreight to South Africa?Will the Scan Tool work communicate with a 2010 E83 X3 2.0d ?
Do you know someone in Bloemfontein that can deal with this problem, I can't afford the dealer. X3
Nice. Job .
great video
My 06 325xi wagon has a stutter jerk feel like a skip in the motor when you take off normally. if you take off fast it dont do it as bad or any at all could that be a transfer case?
I have something similar. I'm thinking it's the transfer case needs an oil change. I'm on 96k and I don't think it's ever been done.
My e83 X3 2007 failed at 167K miles. Was only $100
Part #?? Or link? Please
My 2007 BMW X3 shifts fine but something is slipping in the drive train. The symptom is prominent when taking off from a stop. I was thinking the AWD transfer case is slipping or is it the gear you mentioned? Any ideas? No lights on the dash.
Hi 👋. Did you figure out the problem, I have the same issue X3.
Excellent- didin't realize how many of your videos I used. I have the Trifecta, found rear left ABS sensor connector cracked - need to replace "male" end ... getting 5F42 Trans Control Limp, 5DEC TC Malf, 5E34 Wheel SPeed Sensor, air gap rea left ...can the senor be the cause of the Transmission and TC codes ? don't hear any clicking on shutdown, and not getting the 5F39 code... driving it sees the speedometer work, then non-functional after accelaretion 20mph... lights come on. Don't come back on until acceleareting aprund 20mph .. again ..
Easiest thing you can do is remove actuator from the car (takes 20 min) and inspect it visually. Cheapest and easiest way to rule it out.
@@BIMMERZEITT Thank Rich, I did. Bought this X5 used ( now has 130k miles). I took the actuator apart, motor has a lot of play (wobbly) , the gear looks to have been changed out, as teh case case was clean with a bight green grease and virtually no shreads of gear materail ... so need a new actuator?(hopefully just that) Thanks, Rob.
@@robmasutti5306 most likely. The actuator is like $125 on Amazon these days. I’d go that route next. Still less than an hour labor at BMW!
Amazing thank you!!!
If this fails what happens . What is the cause of a X3 crabbing when turning on lock and rear wheels trying to spin
Crabbing can be tire pressure or tire sizes. Can also be transfer case issues.
Back in 1988 I had a BMW 325i with the straight 6 and manual transmission. The instrument cluster looked pretty much the same as the one in this video. In 30+ years, BMW did not bother to update the instrument cluster? Seriously? This is just sad.
same symbol on my vehicle
What if only my 4x4 light is out ?
Hello Rich. I replaced the transfercase actuator on BMW X3 but ABS light, brake light and 4X4 lights are still on. Do you know how I can get them to reset?
Did u figure out how to reset after the repair?
hi i'm just wonder why the 4x4 light still stay on after i already replace the transfer case gear. on my 05 bmw x5
You have to erase it sometimes with scan tool. And at the very least, have a capable scan tool to check for additional fault codes to help you diagnose
Hey does that also cause it to slip
No it does not
I need that plastic gear. And I live in CT. I have a 2007 bmw 328xi. Your links says not found
Thanks Chris, I’ve updated the links
Chris were you able to get your car fixed ,? Need help with mines
My 2016 x5m noise when turning and it feels like something is rubbing. Took it to 3 bmw mechanics .. two are saying the transfer case .. before I go to the dealer should I buy the reader from Amazon??
Hmm 2016? Seems unlikely case would fail so soon, unless it was abused or a single tire was replaced (versus all 4). Did you try the dealer or were those independent shops. Yes get a code reader and pull the exact codes. Or ask your shop what codes are present.
@@BIMMERZEITT the car has 39000 miles on it and is treated like a princess lol.. I am going to get it diagnosed at BMW .. I took it to another place today when they plugged in the computer they said it was the wheel alignment and steering calibration.. $240 later the problem is still happening
@@amalabed6462 with only 39k miles I think a major item like that would be covered under the BMW warranty. You should bring it back to your BMW dealership. See what is covered under the initial warranty. Even if out of warranty period (5 years old now) since it has low miles they may repair in good faith.
@@BIMMERZEITT that’s the plan! Thanks for the advice
Hey.. took it to a mechanic and they said transfer case although it doesn’t say that when the codes run up.. do you think it’s worth the money to get it diagnosed by BMW to determine the real cause?
Sup Rich...I’m in CT too. I don’t have a click but I’m clearly in 4x4 can feel tight/bind when turning at slow speed. I only have 4x4 light on and my code is 5462 “servo force too high” is this also the servo? I don’t have the triad.
hey, yeah it could be the gear has failed. Worst case scenario the entire servo motor could be replaced. You can start by removing the motor and inspecting the gear for worn teeth. See my other DIY video guide here: ruclips.net/video/UR7Vv5SQvDc/видео.html
Sadly confirmed both servo motor and gear are ok and functional...
@@nathanielmoore5677 Did you ever figure it out?
Yes, servo motor issue. Motor spins when bench tested to 12 volts but would not function in car...bought an $86 eBay one and back in action...no lights
@@nathanielmoore5677 is a servo motor the same as the transfer case motor?
very satisfying .well explained.
I have problem BMW X3 3.01 I try diy I replace it problem still on..maybe need a good scanner to reset? Please help me....
Do you have a BMW specific scan tool or INPA with a laptop and cable?
BIMMER ZEIT no. I replace the plastic gear , I don’t see the broken gear. And put it back accordingly.
I don’t have inpa...
I should get the scanner first.
Right now I used fox scanner but doesn’t have capability to reset... I’ll be back learn and study your video..
Juper Simoran get the c310 scan tool. Check to see what codes your car is putting out. This is the cheapest and easiest step to begin figuring out what the problem is 😊
What if its only 4x4 light on and DSC inactive light ???
Step 1: scan for codes
@@BIMMERZEITT yes they did scan and still are clueless! Codes say 227 & 228 which are o2 bank 2 control deviation and o2 bank 1 control deviation..
Also I have 4x4 DSC Inactive light on and hear grinding noise underneath at stops. I assume Transfer Case Motor or Gear ???
My check engine light has Always been on for years ( Map Thermostat) which every mechanic told me not to bother replacing...
The car has trouble starting every morning and when low on fuel.
Maybe Fuel pump Relay??
Fuel pressure regulator??
Fuel filter??
Fuel Injectors ??
They cant figure it out! Went to 20 car shops in 3 weeks and am really frustrated :(
What could it be ???
Bmw X5 2006 3.0
if the transfer case plastic gear fails will it only be rwd? i have these light on and im sure its only rwd at the mo?
That depends, it could go both ways. Either no 4X4, or the whole thing seizes up and it is stuck in 4X4 where you'll notice the tires binding/screeching/bucking on tight turns or driving in parking lots.
@@BIMMERZEITT i think im rwd at the mo mate you think the plastic gear will fix it ?
@@ryancrf250guy8 worth a shot, it is your cheapest option. You could start by removing the transfer case actuator and inspecting the gear. Can get it removed in about 30-40 minutes.
@@BIMMERZEITT will get it done tomorrow nice 1 bud
@@BIMMERZEITT i just had my front axles replaced and I drove off home came to a stop 🛑 and I thought I was in neutral? Took it back to mechanic and he said it my transmission? I feel like he didn’t install the axles right causing the t case to lock as I’ve read that can happen? Do you think this happened to me ? Ps yesterday while I had it in drive and it wouldn’t move I reved the engine thinking it would engage gears and the drive shaft bent off and practically broke off I’m soooo mad cause I know my bmw is very good it never had that issue before the axles were changed !??
Is that gear good for a 2007 X5 4.8i E70?
hey Miguel, yes it is the same gear for the E53 and E70. You can get the actuator with gear here: amzn.to/3AahE9A
@@BIMMERZEITT how are you boss. So i purchased the gear and turns out that mines is good still. Brand you pretty much. Help me because i still have the 4x4 brake light on.
@@BIMMERZEITT note i did still replaced it with yours. But still the same. And when i do a turn before the 4x4 light comes on the suspension acts as if i hit a pot hole or goes high then the 4x4 comes on
@@2004skylinegtrr34 hey Miguel, that is frustrating! Did you scan your X5 with a BMW scan tool to get the stored codes? That is really the essential first step to diagnose correctly. Let me know what code you saw.
@@BIMMERZEITT well I ran the X5 with no codes showing.
My 4x4 light is on by itself so do I need this part?
Hi, Step one is to scan your car with a BMW scan tool to get the trouble codes stored in the computer. You can't skip this step, otherwise you'll just be throwing parts and money at the car. I use the C310 for $55 which is less than what a shop will charge you to scan the car. Here: amzn.to/3n0stEU
Thank you.
@@BIMMERZEITT hey hi you doing man over time if you had this problem and ur reverse go out could it still be that part
@@vincentmckissic2928 no reverse sounds like a transmission problem sorry to say...
Mine makes the sound 🤦
BMW management sucks. Don’t even stand by their products or their buyers. This needs to be a class action lawsuit and recall. Bad enough the car is out of operation they want you to pay thousands for their design flaws. This is unacceptable. People shouldn’t have to learn how to fix BMW’s mistakes that they won’t owned up to especially for the amount of money these cars costs to begin with.
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using plastic in car gear is not decent at all. BMW should be banned by doing that
sometimes they do it by design so it wears before the other gear
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