How this game forced me to get good. | Black Myth: Wukong review
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- I finally finished Black Myth: Wukong which turned out to me a more difficult challenge than I was anticipating, and after being convinced I wasn't gud enough for it, I got better and persevered! A spoiler-free review and discussion about my experience playing it to completion from a fan of Journey to the West. (And no, I haven't beat THAT boss yet, but I might save him for a stream.) #blackmyth #wukong #review
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As a senior and a retired teacher , I never paid much attention to game players n developers as many of my students spent, I think, too much time on them. After the release of Black Myth -Wukong I start to understand more about the gaming industry, especially the gamers(how united they can be when face/fight with the so-called new ideology). What they really want is only a good game to enjoy for fun and relaxation. Beside, a good game can sometimes help you reflect, change views and attitude towards things. Thx to Black Myth Wukong, I have a clearer understanding of the gaming industry and the meaning 'unity is strength '.
I've always wondered why gaming is so looked down upon as a hobby by non-gamers. People praise people for loving chess, for example, but because a video game is in a digital format it can receive criticism. If you think about it, games are quite special. They're a culmination of so many art forms from art style, music, acting, animation and so on all in an interactive format.
I got some serious philosophical insight from taking serious things like “hey, this game talks about Norse mythology how cool, but what about the real one, what does their runes mean, or with black myth wukong Im learning more about Buddhism as it’s based on a real story of a monk that traveled to India and came back to china with lots of Buddhist text that influenced their culture quite a lot.
Why? Why Buddhismhas to say that is so impactful? What is even mythology, why so many myths resemble each other? What they try to tell us if you read between lines?
All of that partially thanks to some games and the symbols, themes, myths, the reflection of a real world problems that they expose you.
Conquering challenging things is usually the most satisfying feeling for us humans. Any achievment that we worked hard for gives us.. meaning. We tend to try evading them by all means possible, but the feeling of getting an actual win compared to one that was granted to us is incomparable. Congratulations! ❤
Thank you so much!! ❤️
Honestly, this is why people find souls and elden ring so satisfying, and what all those people claiming that elden ring needs to be easier are missing.
exactly
You’ve captured the essence of the game and novel - it’s about the journey. To mature, devote and find our inner strength and spirit.
As someone who don’t play action games, I struggled very much especially in the first chapter. Wishing for a lower difficulty setting, but ultimately so glad there isn’t an easy way out. After 40 attempts on Withering Wight and White clad, u get the hang of boss combo movements and attack & dodge timings, once u get into this rhythm, everything else after wasn’t hard anymore. Training with them was well worth it
agreed - thats what i thought about having nailed the moves, until I met tiger, oh and wind sage, and the loong on the turtle, oh and the supreme inspector, oh and stone monkey, oh and broken shell, - The game humiliated me, and threw me all over the arena, and even swallowed me whole, and I loved every minute of it !
@@mrburn6119 glad your enjoying the game! Keep going, I’m on the NG+3, bosses 2 or 1 shot u, even regular mobs hit pretty hard. Of cos u get better weapon, armor & skill points, but it maxes out about end of NG+2 later chapters. Good challenge if ur up for it
40+hours in, still at beginning of chapter 4. this is such a good experience and I don’t get rushed to finish it. so glad you enjoy it aswell😃
I’m staying in charter 3, joyfully and memorial of the 90s,let it sink in,like a finest wine,sipping and waiting for the announcement of additional charters dates!
Yooo howww. I'm 26 hours in and midway done with chapter 4. I've also done 90% of all bosses up to my point so far
💜✨🫖☕️ I’m so inspired that you persevered and conquered this style of game! The will for the story is strong!!!💜💜💜💜💜
Oh absolutely the story got me through it! Put up my best fight for it! ❤️
@@kitetales then it never stood a chance, my friend!!!💜💜💜🫖☕️✨💅🏻🥒💯👍💪💋🚺
I'm coming up to the end of NG+1, and Erlang was making me doubt myself when I first faced him. People told me I rely too much on my level, but they never told me the best stance to use against him. I, personally, love the challenge the game has to offer because it really makes me stop and analyse why I may be losing - what I'm doing wrong, what I can do differently. I hope that people ARE willing to give the challenge a chance, because it truly is a fulfilling experience.
yellow wind sage, yellow brow, duskveil (phase 2), cloud treading deer, yellow loong, and sun wukong were the only bosses where I genuinely believed I couldn't carry on. but I still persevered and finally beat the game after 100 hours. just like you, I don’t usually play action RPGs and had never played elden ring before, but I’m so happy I played wukong. I don’t think I’ve ever felt so accomplished from a video game in my life. I mean, it’s just a game, but having spent countless hours and days on a single boss fight, the feeling of winning was incredibly satisfying. I’m currently on NG, and for me, it’s just a revenge tour to destroy all the bosses that gave me PTSD, and it’s been sooo much fun killing everyone on the first attempt, lol.
I’m exactly like you: I choose easy/story mode in all games. I’m here to have fun! I bought Elden Ring when it came out. Seemed like my type of game. But no difficulty choices, I would die, LOSE EVERYTHING I HAD, and then had to do it again? I returned the game. I got Wukong and afterwards realized there were no difficulty settings and I was concerned. Fought that damned Wandering Wight and was ready to return this as well. But then I found some help on RUclips, beat him and “got good” as you say. When I needed the help, I went to RUclips, but I am so much better at this game now! I just finished NG+ and will be starting NG++ because I have to beat those damned lantern dudes in the Pagoda to get the last curios and my platinum! LOVE this game. And I guess I love that I had to “git gud”.
Oh my gosh I LOVE how you don’t lose everything when you die in Wukong; that’s such a stupid mechanic in Elden Ring and I hate it!
@@kitetales exactly! That was probably my main reason for returning it. I’d have to kill the guy who killed me to get all my stuff back. Meanwhile there is a REASON i died. IF I beat him, I’d be so low on health I’d die again shortly. It was so frustrating. But yeah Wukong is great once you learn the mechanics, the builds and the strategies!
Of all the girls, imagine kitetales being the one to make it into team seal six.
When Rainbow Six Siege happens IRL I’ll be there 😆
When we were children we had player guides. When we were teenagers we had GameFAQs. Now we have the RUclips community. It’s evolution.
Can’t wait to play this game.
I got stuck on the desert rat boss but I never gave up. I conquer him after my 50 attempts. It feels good.
omg, what admirable perseverance you got. Salute to you sir.
You need to use the wind tamer to weaken him
@@epicgamescene9273 yeh I found out too late.
Congratulations, your efforts have brought happiness and achievements
Actually in the original novel, Sun Wu Kong loses a lot to different Yao Guais where those dudes either have celestial cort connections or are close with the Buddahs. So the game is kinda lore accurate because those Yao Guais are very powerful. The wild Yao Guais usually just get killed while these guys with powerful background usually kick Wu Kong's ass and getting back to their masters safe and sound. The novel is suspected to be an implicit criticism of the Chinese government at the time, reflecting on how the people holding the power are hypocritical but cannot be touched.
The vulnerabilities of the bosses are subtly woven into the narrative, encompassing in-game conversations and textual content, making them easily overlooked. Yet, for those well-versed in the classic "Journey to the West," they might discern the bosses' weaknesses and the strategies to vanquish them, which commands great admiration for the tenacity of players who manage to defeat the bosses without resorting to any debilitation tactics.
The entire gaming experience mirrors a journey of personal growth, a brief span of dozens of hours that feels like an epoch, leaving a lasting impression that's hard to shake off.
I had very little interest in playing this game but this video convinced me to actually play it! It’s really high praise to be able to overcome the difficulty and coming out enjoying the struggle!
That’s every souls game but I love that energy have fun
This game isn't really that hard. There are a few tough bosses, but the game is just fun. The story is hard to understand if you grew up in America and goku is the reason you're playing it. But there are a few people like bingtalks and avenuex explaining the story for people as ignorant as I am.
@@JackisaMimic and it is mimicry to the MAX 😉
@@ormrinn No dude, it really is pretty hard
this game is legit amazing try it.
Yin Tiger, Yellow Wind Sage, Golden Eyed Beast, and Yellowbrow were the ones that REALLY tested my commitment to perservering
I had no idea that you could get the Golden-Eyed Beast to hit the ice wall behind him and make the fight infinitely easier until I looked up why the heck he was so difficult
@@kitetales Wait what? I never knew! i just put on the firemantle and then stubbornly tried again and again, frantically trying to evade the schizofrenic adhd cocaine hell dog's manic attacks and lava diarrhea while desperately waiting for my spells to recharge, or for it to stand still for 2 seconds so i can hit it once to take away 0.5% of its health.
My face still bears the deep, anguish frown marks of that battle. I won it by the skin of my teeth!
I just looked it up, so thats why there is that random room there!
oh man, would have been great to know!
I remember Ninja Gaiden when it came to get good. Never thought another game would be as fast paced and at the same time challenging. I level grinded to make it a lil easier. But I must say the fights are that good, so far. The fact is that I lost because of my mistakes against well made bosses and that I had to learn how to play correctly to enjoy the game. All wins must be earned-no handouts here. It amazes me how after 10 to 15 attempts, I still see a new attack come out of nowhere to say that you've gotten better, but don't you dare relax. The variety is through the roof.
I just entered chapter 4 at level 93 and level grinded til I maxed out a few things on the survival skill tree. I'm now at level 153 and I still quake in my boots when I think about going back to try to beat that Blacksmith for the 23rd time.
Congrats to you. Ihope that I can join the club.
Watching playthroughs on RUclips is a happy pastime for me. If a game is ever too much of a skill issue for me, I'm fine watching someone else continue on. It's like passing the controller to your sibling for a turn. I still do that sometimes with my sister when we get together. We are in our 40's now, but it's what we did as kids too. I especially loved playing RPG's with her. We would always buy game guides and that way one person controls the game and the other is a navigator.
I love the character animation in this game so much..in chapter 3 after the dragon "kang-jin loong" fight the destined one is transported to the Pagoda realm during that time he has a nightmare that he is running away from macaque chief and he is scared the its not narrated or anything during the cut scene but when you look at his face you can clearly see that on his face. Absolutely marvelous job by devs here ❤
YAASSSSS well done triumphing over this brutal game. Honestly these are the types of reviews IGN and gaming journalists SHOULD be making.
True quality, easy to watch, and like a personal explanation.
I loved the video Kite and I'm so curious to see any lore videos that may(?) Come from you about the game ♡
Awwww thank you so much babes!! 🥲❤️ I’m using this as a reference letter to IGN now 🤣
Let's be honest, they won't because controversy gets more clicks.
The playthrough of Black myth Wukong is an epic journey.
I personally think the difficulty is done right with this game, maybe even better than Elden Ring. Instead of a cheap difficulty slider, it offers plenty of tools to overcome challenges. Just like Mimic Tears, you’ve got overpowered clones. For bosses where spells don’t really work, you’ve got spell binders. And I wouldn’t say the special item to counter the boss is “just a bit easier” - for me, it’s night and day (Chapter 4 boss, omg). Good catch that this mechanic is a callback to the original novel!
Speaking of accessibility, the free and instant respec really puts all the game mechanics into play. I had plenty of items to respec in Elden Ring, but never bothered because the bosses never required me to change things up. Most players don’t have time for NG+, NG++, NG+++ - just let me try things in the first playthrough!! This feature should be in every RPG game!
Yeah, i never bothered NG+ i just start new character build.
EldenRing should have made majority of the surface people bow to you as Elden Lord so I'd have a reason to start a NG+.
Better than Elden RING!!!! are you kidding me? the game is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy to easy, not even that NG+ and on it just get easier, not even a death except for one at the last boss, sooo noo sorry but the game is a hand holder difficulty wise
@@mAeX135 good for you elitist, now let others enjoy the game.
@@mAeX135
Elden Ring is debatably easier than Wukong.
Im pretty new to Souls games Elden ring being my first and I found Elden ring waaaay harder even with summons but maybe that was a build thing im terrible at making them and level a bit of everything to an extent instead of maxing . I found this game to be pretty forgiving but still harder than I expected since they kept saying it wasnt a souls like. Took a bit to get used to the flow of combat with how heavies will be a bit delayed and all,alot of bosses I could run through in a try or two but there definitely were some tough ones .100 eyed Doaist master at the end of chapter 4 was probably the hardest for me outside of the last boss and that wandering wight in chapter one had me thinking I was supposed to run past and come back later like the tree sentinel in elden ring. I never had any I dont think I can do this moments but I know those very well from Sekiro,that was definitely the hardest game for me.
I think the bit of forgiveness in the game makes it much easier to get extra greedy with attacks and get spammy with dodging. Theres definitely a few bosses ya gotta take it slow and focus on dodges and just getting a bit of damage in.
Ive absolutely loved the game and am on my 4th run and just cant get enough,that video you get at the end for the true ending was so incredible,all the in between chapter videos were so cool too.
Once I got the last trophy I started a fresh save and have been reading each journal entry as they unlock and the stories and info and art those have is incredible,I check out the art in the earlier playthroughs but the stories shock me alot of the time,so weird and cool
The difficulty of this game has spanned quite a large spectrum. Its either really difficult or rather easy depending from person to person.
Personally only felt that 4 maybe 5 bosses were really tough, but everything else was pretty chill. However looking at the general reception of the game, alot of people struggled with alot of bosses.
That said, the gameplay itself isnt even the main point of importance of the game imo. This being a gamescience version sequel for journey to the west has been a really emotional piece for me.
The wait is finally over so happy to see more wukong videos 🙌
Yes!! Can’t wait, first one is on Bajie!
@@kitetales about his love story?
@@XJonathanNguyenXyes!! But also the differences between him and in the novel and how they updated his story
@@kitetales when I saw his animation love story in wukong I was literally in 😭
@@XJonathanNguyenX oh my gosh I know, so sad. I was SHOCKED when I saw him jump out of the golden seal though when he’s first revealed, I had no idea he was going to be in the game it was such a surprise 🥲
SAME HERE, YELLOW LOONG TOOK ME 7 HOURS TO BEAT....I AM SO HUMBLED.
Oh my gosh he was BRUTAL! I had to use a poison build to beat him!
Wonderful dissertation on the value of the challenge that BMW presents. I'm currently on break from countless attempts at felling Yellow Loong - that fight has made me adapt build several times, each one getting a little closer. Had to give up bc sleep is a thing lol. I'll get him, and it'll be so worth it. Thanks for sharing your insight.
Congrats on finishing the game, well done 👍
I've just reached chapter 5 and as a souls veteran, I concur, this game is challenging but fair and the fun factor is certainly there!😊
Your story coincides with my first time playing Demons Souls. It was a completely new experience, but the challenge kept bringing me back, until it was conquered!😅
Thanks for a great video!
Cheers 😊
You NEED Sekiro in your life now. NEED IT. It's a brutal and beautiful masterpiece. It was my second FromSoft game after Elden Ring. And it did to me, exactly what this game did to you. It finally made me git gud and I haven't looked back since.
I’m playing Sekiro rn and I started and stopped it for months at Genichiro. Finally went back to it and beat him. I’m addicted to the combat now and can’t wait to play more.
Agree, but you NEED to return Kuro's charm on a second playthrough and ring the bell to experience the REAL game.
Sekiro is the best game ever.
Great vid and breakdown. Glad to hear someone triumph thru all the challenges and see their skill improve. Looking forward to your breakdown of the DLC coming.
40 year old dad, gamer by night. I'm not GREAT at video games. I struggle through most FS games but done eventually beat them. In the Elden Ring DLC, I couldn't beat Bayle and used a cheese build for the last boss.
In Wukong, I found the spells to be pretty forgiving. Maxing out A Pluck of Many could make it almost solo some bosses. That helped me through a lot.
Only the true ending boss gave me as much trouble as a typical from soft boss. He took me about an hour, whereas most bosses take me four to five tries at most.
So I'd say the difficultly was forgiving, but still satisfying.
I also agree that it's a beautiful game overall. I can't stop taking screenshots in NG+ and I love discovering more lore entries to see how everything ties back to the source material.
I’ve never had to switch up my build so often to over come some of these bosses. This game is tough but definitely feels rewarding when you beat a boss.
Congratulations! There should be no shame around using aids/making things easier in games which is something I appreciate you openly talked about! This game looks brutally beautiful and you have convinced me to give it a go!🥰
Thank you so much!! ❤️
I agree with this. The devs intended you to use those things to assist that's why they put it in the game. That's why I feel no shame using summons in elden ring for example
This must be the most appreciative review from anyone who has conquered this fantastic game! :D
I'm still not finished the game. I'm soon to fight the level 3 boss. Yellow Loong was my most challenging boss battle so far. Took me hours to beat him. Despite how long it took, I really appreciate how his fighting style or combos changed the closer to his defeat. BMW, Sekiro and God of War aka Dad of War are my favorite types of games.
I feel you…I have the same problem as you and I died like 5 times on the first boss and 3 times on the 2nd.I have to play further but I believe some of these bosses take upto 30 tries?To be able to take all that in stride so as to finish the story is testament to the strong writing and brilliance that Game Science brought to the table here,in this game.Definitely a GOTY contender.
This is awesome - congrats on the accomplishment, seriously :)
I’ve avoided souls-like games despite knowing I need to dive in (I know I’d like them). So this is my first.
I’ve been getting my ass kicked. I’m in chapter 3 and way overlevelled due to the time I’m taking.
But I’m loving it in every way. And I strongly disagree with forcing a preferred difficulty level. If they did, you and I wouldn’t be having this experience with the game.
And it’s also okay that not every game is made for every gamer.
“A game for everyone is a game for no one”
Amazing, and inspirational! Personally, I like games that let you set the difficultly level. I remember with Witcher 3, i started with Story and Sword, went down to Just the Story, but then worked my way up to Death March. The ability to adjust the difficulty made the learning curve much more enjoyable for me. Conversely, when I first played Elden Ring, i can't tell you how many times I dodged that boulder in Caelid, or shot that chicken in Mohgwyn Palace, so i could essentially bring down the difficulty level. Anyway, you never cease to amaze, and I look forward to your boss guides in the future!
I am 100% with you; difficulty settings should be a standard imo and no reason for them not to be since you can just adjust things like aggro, health, damage, etc. Even an option that pops up after a number of tries like “would you like to enable accessibility features?” I play games for the story first and foremost and my favorite games are ones that captured me with the plot and characters. Gameplay really is secondary for me!
somehow i feel so proud hearing how you enjoyed the process of 'getting good' :D now you can replay elden ring and lies of p in a different way and get to enjoy them all over again (if you want to)
i feel the best type of difficulty is how fromsoft does it - no easy mode, no quick option, but there are tools and grinding you can do to adjust the difficulty to your liking :D
I really dislike the action rpg way of managing accessibility. I like to have a more heavily directed experience. As long as all the difficulty options are well thought out I will always prefer a difficulty system.
All though I partially only think this because I think action rpgs are over saturated and standard action games are pretty rare now. In the last 5 years we’ve had only 8 competent action games by my count. Those being dmc5, sekiro, gow ragnarok, sifu, bayonetta 3, the two 5th gen monster hunter games and black myth wukong. Whereas we’ve have seen countless ARPG’s.
@@porkwhisperer3050 difficulty isn't accessibility, everyone can get better by just playing the game and care less about winning or losing
@@Ghorda9 I agree to a point. There’s a point where a game is difficult enough that certain people can’t beat it. However this isn’t true for almost any normal video game so I agree I probably shouldn’t have used it in my above comment. I guess I meant ways of making the game more enjoyable to people who don’t enjoy challenging games.
Hi! Kite! Thank you for sharing your amazing experiences of this game! After finishing the game, I saw your video and I deeply related to you! I always love RPG games but I just suck at ARPG or any souls-like games. I can never finish any kind of this even if I like watching them😂 I just not talented enough I guess.
But when Black Myth Wukong released, I immediately buy it and decide to finish the game no matter what！As a Chinese, not only because this is A First 3A game from my country, but also because it is a story about my childhood hero--Su Wukong!
And the game is surely very, very challenging to me! 😢Man！Who knows How many times I die and fail in the game! But I did it！114 hours ! I beat the game for first time！And I cried when the game ends and the credits rolling. I feel like I was having the journey and every fight was hard, but I made it in the end. Just like my hero Su Wukong, I experienced my journey to the West. Before the game, I doubt myself can finish it, and now I JUST HARD TO believe that it's over😢
Again, thank you for sharing, Katie！Your words just remind me of that day I finish the game and all those sweets and bitters during playing it. And I couldn't help to share it on the comment. Sorry if it is too long😂
Honestly thought this game was a wrap for me after struggling for days with the white clad noble. I kept trying and kept getting killed. After leveling up to about 32 I was finally able to beat him and my god was that satisfying. After that I really didn’t have that much trouble with any bosses until yellowbrow in chapter 3. Thank god for RUclips though because this game offers little to no guidance lol. I found that most times I wasn’t under leveled I was just fighting the boss the wrong way. But I also did experience a lot of controller input lag in CRUCIAL moments during boss fights so that was another challenge to overcome. All in all I really liked this game, but I wouldn’t put it on the same level as god of war.
*Patience* is a Virtue
Good round up of the game - that is exactly how I feel.
I am 58, reflexes of a squashed vegetable, It took me 96,2 hrs to complete,
perhaps its because I grew up with monkey on uk tv, but this is most probably my most enjoyed game (and i have been around since atari bat n ball), and the sense of achievement i felt is unknown to me for a game like this
Congratulations. You have become a more competent gamer as a result. Well done.
By the way you have a beautiful voice.
Well done!!!
I wholeheartedly feel your pain as I am at the end of chapter 3 and feel the same as you. It's challenging but in a good way. I also happy to see that the game has captured you to find out about the novel journey to the west and Chinese culture. All the best and I hope you continue trying to improve in all aspects of life.
What a great review, dude. Seriously, very raw, very encouraging.
Thank you so much!! ❤️
sister I understand you this game forced me to enter the treasure kingdom and after a long time I made it out and found enlightenment by entering an itachi-like state, finding peace within myself and managing to unlock the ultra instinct which allows me to analyse the opponent first in order to avoid all attacks before I sell my soul or buy a new joystick. my masters of enlightenment are yinyang tiger, erlang and wukong I am now playing through the game for the third time and can only say hang in there, chosen one
Not treasure kingdom I mean shadow realm*
This game was so hard. Reminded me of Nioh 2, but maybe even harder, although it got a little easier for me once I unlocked Spellbind. After that it finally felt like I was doing normal, expected damage after I started using that, and I could just focus on fighting and dodging rather than all the spell combos. Anyway love your videos and your voice, keep em coming!
Correction Wukong is not the main character of Journey to the west, The main character is a Monk who free wukongs 500 years after the prologue.
People get confuse because The Prologue is very long and Well Wukong is the most popular character, eclipsing everyone in it, it doesn't help that the supposedly main character is just the Damsel in distress...but is a guy.
The rest is pretty accurate. "If wukong is so OP why he struggles so much"? well like it was mentioned in the video the enemies wukong face either counter him in some way or are strong as he is, or he is dealing with some sort of handicap, sometimes he faces problems that he cannot solve by just murdering everyone...despite of him encouraging his friend to do it his way. Many times he just flexes the many layers of immortality he has and how many ways he can die without actually dying or lets not forget that one chapter where his friends drink from a fountain that makes them pregnant, hahaha
Yeah I said he wasn’t the main character!
I feel the game is balanced for players to struggle if they do not explore or try new builds. Each boss seems to be tuned to be strong against certain styles, but weak to others. If the player keeps changing their specs with regards to each boss fight, the game is considerably easier. It's not tuned for casual play, but it's not tuned to be hard. It's somewhere in the middle.
It’s great to hear that you powered through. I really love difficult action games and all the soulslikes. I very strongly recommend not playing easy modes or using stuff that makes something an easy mode
I just finished the game yesterday, after countless try to defeat Erlang in order to unlocked the "good ending". Oh my god my jaw dropped. The beautiful cutscene it gave what an amazing journey. I thought this game is "God of War" on steroid. It is hard, very, but still doable. Especially when others are sharing their build, tips, etc which was really HELPFUL! So, yeah, if you are still not sure wether to pass or play, i highly suggest you to PLAY!
I was looking forward to this game for a long time, a guy who knows nothing about "Journey to the West", lore wise I need to study it more or watch some story analysis to understand properly, but I love tf outta the game, especially gameplay, it humbled me too. I'm a guy who never played soulslike not cus of them being hard, I just didn't have the chance to. Having said that, I do play lot of games in hardest like GOW 2018, Ragnarok, Witcher 3, FF7 Remake, etc. I think this or Ragnarok or FF7 Remake was the hardest for me so far. I'm even trying to platinum this game, I had tons of fun with builds and customization
Great great great video! Is there a boss in particular you felt was most rewarding to go up against in retrospect? I ended up uninstalling Black Myth for the time being since I do NOT have the patience this game demands of me at this time 😂
I completely feel you on that!! I was closest to that point in chapter 4; just brutal! Hundred-Eyed Taoist gave me the most grief
I have not beaten the game yet. still in chapter 5. But for me the gameplay clicked when I noticed you should try to use dodge in series of 3 dodges per one dodge. This gives you better s than just dodging once. and also lot of opponents attack not just once but mulltiple times. When I started doing 3 dodges at a time. it really helped with some bosses.
Yeah I had to learn attack patterns as well and sometimes when to just run to the far edge for those aoe attacks
Altho i found Black Myth Wukong alright. It completely got overshadowed by a much more obscure indi game that i only found because of a AGDQ speedrun. The game is simply called ''Afterimage''. Somehow the setting of that game made me think of you a lot because of how perceptive you are to detail and your way to create cohesive theory on the lore of a game.
I can imagine you can't play everything everyone would like you to play. But if you get bored at some point, give it a shot. If even just for yourself. It's way too good for what it should be.
That being said great video has usual and may you have a good night! ^-^
I’ll totally look that up! Thanks so much for the recommendation!!
@@kitetales You are very welcome! Also, thank you for taking some of your time to actually answer. Very appreciated. Stay awesome! 💌
Tiger vanguard was an early level skills check.
Yellow Loong and Scorpian King was mid level skills check.
And there is one more boss that was the late game skills check before the final boss, no spoilers.
But my favorite skills check is Yin Tiger.
My goat. I love you so excited for the commentary! (I just started the video)
I love you MORE!! ❤️
I cheesed my way through the first playthrough with that infinite mana glitch. Then they patched it. And I couldn't believe I still went through the ng++ difficulty. This game certainly provokes the thought on why we play games. Whenever I had a choice I mostly went normal because easy feels a little embarrassing to me but this one really gave me no choice. On the other hand it feels really rewarding when I finally beat a boss myself, something infinite clones never gave.
I support the idea of accessibility mode. I guess one reason BMW doesn't have it might be related to lack of manpower and tight deadline. But another reason may be the theme of this game is "equality for all"/众生平等. It will be quite philosophical if no difficulty level is an intentional choice.
These said, there have been a lot of "wheelchair guides" in Chinese. Those could be a relief if it's really too hard for you or some boss just gives you way too much grief. But the guides are not cheats tho. You still have to fight yourself just the tactics were figured out by others for you, which reduces the fun a bit not too much.
I really like the game not wasting any of my time and always spawns me closest to boss when I die.
Wow listening to this was really inspiring 🎉
CONGRATS KITE !!!!:)))
Thank you mon ami !!!! ❤️❤️
Same this game & Dark souls 1 feel very similar for me, bloodborne also ❤ free respec is a game changer, makes me more aggressive and try out new builds. This game is a Very inspired work of art with some rookie mistakes and flaws from environmental game design standpoint, but going forward this will be fixed for sure hopefully they never lose that artistic spark of trying new things and be who they really are as a game developer not try to emulate anyone else. I hope to see more great art from game science, if every hard game is as beautiful and inspired as wukong I would play all of them and yeah this is the first time in a long while that make me felt we have finally step into next gen games, after promising them long long ago
I finished the game last week, and there were quite a few bosses that beated me time and time again...at least on first playthrough...
Chapter 1, Wight, Red Loong and final chapter boss, Black Bear.
Chapter 2, that damned Tiger Vanguerd, also that frog near the first altar.
Chapter 3, Kang Jin Star and Non-Able.
Chapter 4, second Bajie fight, Scorpion Lord and Duskveil.
Chapter 5...actually i was quite overleveled...not many problems,,,i surprisingly even defeated both forms of final chapter boss first try...
The real most annoying of all was actually the secret boss Erlang...that took me 2 days to do it...and 2 full skills resets trying to get a working strategy...
I play every game on hard ever since I got Kingdom Hearts as a kid, and while rewarding it’s stressful. Playing this game is fun but popping in Astro bot and just unwinding is such an excellent palette cleanser after this and months of Elden Ring. Hope you do a Journey to the West video!
I hope your doing some kind of voice work you could narrate war crimes and I would just listen like 🙇🏾♂️
Oh my gosh I cannot WAIT to play Astro Bot!! I’m so happy to hear you’re enjoying it that is next on my list!
The Yellow Wind Sage in lore is actually tough as fucking shit
This is not just a game, it’s a life changing experience, there’s NO SHORT CUT in life.
Great video！I am a relatively experienced player. I have platinum trophies from Sekiro, Elden Ring and Bloodborne, so it took me 55 hours to get Wukong’s platinum trophy. In fact, there are some cheating methods to deal with many bosses, by the way, have you defeated the hidden Erlang boss? For the true ending, you need to defeat him and then fight the Great Sage to unlock it.
I got him halfway!! Was thinking about streaming that fight until I beat him, I’m sure it’ll only take all day 🥲
@@kitetales don't worry,if you can beat broken sage then sure you can beat erlang.
Erlang forced me to lock in ✌🏾😭
You have a lovely voice. At first I thought it was an AI voice. LOL 😄 Your experience of the game is very encouraging. My brother didn't buy the game because he don't think he can beat it but he is a huge fan of the game, watching all the videos of people playing. I hope your story will inspire him to at least try. I think he will love it if he beats the game too.
same here. I finally learn to press button slow to beat the boss.
Beautiful essay
Thank you!! 💙
Got two Jobs only get two days off and still managed to reach NG++ and lvl 300 .. that’s how much I love this game definitely deserving of GOTY
2:10 It's a great motivator for sure ahahaha!
I used to be the type who loved walkthroughs. In fact, I thought they were cool, full of art and insider info. That was until I played through FFIX with one, and I felt like the game was a slog because of it. Rather than play it at my own pace, I played it the most anally retentive way you could imagine and it soured the experience. I felt like I had ultimate easy mode turned on to boot, and it wasn't as satisfying to solve the puzzles when you had the answer.
All that to say, I felt like stepping away from crutches like this made playing games way more enjoyable and unlocked my confidence. I'm glad you got to enjoy Black Myth Wukong despite its challenges :)
You are the destined, and you shall fulfill your destiny
Yellow loong gave me the most trouble and scorpion lord although I haven't gotten past the stone monkey yet, I switched it off other day to go bed ready for work and haven't had chance to get back to it yet.
I like the feeling that you have after tought encounter. I had few boss fights in this game that got me stuck. Literally stuck for days of play time. I usually had 1-2h session and if I get stuck on boss after 10th or 20th attempt then I did a break. Could be few hours break or one-two days. After a while the boss that was initially tought was killed and I felt so good. This game for sure delivers such feeling constantly. You get better at it and you are rewarded. Unfortunately if you get stuck on certain bosses your options are limited. You either get better at this game(respec or different tactic) or you go play other one. I encourage the first option :).
Then there’s NG+… the bosses in that mode hit like a train!
It too me 97…. THEEEEEEN I discovered FARMING….. I’d never played a game where it was ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY to farm….
The said the same about Sekiro, I have respect for only 2 bosses in that game, everyone else was a learning curve that weren’t too hard.
Same here. First game actually made me learn.
This is also my first title that has some good combat mechanic aside from god of war. It’s a lot easier than what I thought people described it to be. It’s not easy but it’s not hard at all. Mechanics of the boss aren’t hard to learn and the game prepares you for most boss fights. With an exception of the Yellow Loong, the game hand holds you every step of the way. It’s only up to yellow loong where I realize I couldn’t rely on items too much. Everything had to be used sparingly and at the opportune time. He honestly prepared me for scorpion lord and broken sage.
I'm proud of you. I just finished ng+. When people tell me that this game is harder than Elden Ring, I thought they were trolling. But now that you mentioned it, I can understand why. Its because you cant cheese boss fights in Black myth Wukong.
I wouldn't mind my parents just wandering around and reliving the story of their youths. I don't need to have that "sense of pride and accomplishments" as every devoted gamer know how good they are. I love beating things in hard mode, but that feeling is completely separate from appreciating others such as my wife being able to enjoy the story and graphics.
So level grinding is mid game, but definitely a thing - the cocoon farm at the Jade Pool in Chapter 4.
I was 184 when I took out Erlang & the Great Sage's Broken Shell - which was far easier than the Tiger Vanguard for me.
This is what I meant by Elden ring was easier than Black Myth Wukong. I just had to build a crazy spell caster build and I was cruising but in Wukong I couldn't build a cheesy build, the only time I could be "cheesy" was at the end with the Fan vessel so before that I was just stuck getting better at dodges, stance timings, spell usage, and mana conservation.
Level design in this game is a nightmare. Why must everything in a biome be uniformly one color? I'm only in chapter 2, so maybe it gets better later on, but so far, I've spent more time being
lost than I have fighting bosses. I thought the forest was bad, until I saw the desert. Every brown rock looks the same as every other brown rock, and all of the structures are also brown. It's maddening!
Oh yeah no map! I definitely missed out on some areas not being able to visualize where I had gone; map would have been great
If I wasnt happily married with a wife right now I would be marrying you. Its one thing to be a gamer girl in a male dominated hobbie but its another to not quit on games that you are usually not known to play or enjoy. This game is GOTY for me hands down. It is challenging but yet fair and with a little effort you can beat it. This is the best review of this game so far on youtube
Oh SHUCKS!! Thanks for the glowing compliment, really appreciate the high praise! ❤️
I respect devs who choose to offer multiple difficulty options and, at the same time, manage to balance a consistent gaming experience.
However, I do believe that lowering gaming difficulty too much will diminish the reward system of a game. With game like this with a purposefully artistic intention of going thru a rebellious adventure, being a easy walkover can degrades the meaning of how difficult life will be when someone try to fight back to great power and authorities. The difficulty is part of the game experience which directly related to the message an art work is trying to deliver.
Also, people is less likely to feel sad and truly care before they suffer.
I love Black Myth Wukong and love the difficulty escalation, but some of the difficulty is just ridiculous. The biggest problem I've had was the boss tracking and homing. It's like they always had 100% lock on 24/7 which made them do things like 180 turns mid swing or zip right up to me from 10 feet away mid combo. One time Yellow Loong was doing the attack where he jumps into the air then does a big ground smash and when I dodged AFTER he initiated the dash he SWERVED MID DASH to catch my dodge. At that point, it's not even actual challenge. It's just stupidly difficult.
I like challenge. I tend to play ganes on their hardest difficulties. I've beaten both God of War's on Give Me No Mercy (Never felt like replaying those games so I never got to GMGOW), I've beaten several playthroughs of Ghost of Tsushima on Lethal right from the beginning, I've beaten both Jedi Fallen Order and Jedi Survivor on Grand Master from the beginning, and I've beaten all 3 Insomniac Spider-Man games on Spectacular and Ultimate (I know those games aren't insanely difficult but going 18 hours without a single death on the hardest difficulty of Miles Morales says something). I've also beaten Sekiro without using any enhancement powders and barely upgrading my tools and yet STILL none of those games difficulties could even try to come close to Black Myth Wukong purely based on BMW's egregiously perfect boss lock on and tracking at all times.
The only honest RUclipsr about this game that I have seen. I appreciate you acknowledging that the game is hard. I have played most From software games and I would say this game is harder than all of them.
Yes!! I didn’t even realize it was “uncool” to say that this game is difficult; it’s such a lame trend and objectively dishonest.
Personally I wouldn't mind if fromsoft or who ever added difficulty settings to their games even if some people see that as total heresy but it's up to the dev if they want to gatekeep their game behind difficulty or not at the end of the day
I love this game but I find this game quite easy yet challenging. It gives an honest challenge, never felt like I got cheated in any way. I learned to dodge, stay moving, use counterflow or thrust counter when I have the points, and beat most bosses in 2-3 tries. Loving the game!!
Early adopter had it easy with the unlimited mana glitch. But even if you only have the updated version, you could still level up and try the boss again and again without losing anything. So yes it has a steep learning curve for casual gamers but you'll eventually get past those bosses... yes... eventually...
I think a lot of the problems stems from gaming companies have gone very easy on difficulty levels when it comes to games that it's trained a lot of people into playing in that style. A good example of one of my friends bought Skiro I think of the name basically the game is relied heavily on counter attacks, combos, dodging, etc. he's never played a counteract system because he's not a fighting game fanatic so it was fairly new to him. He hated it. He felt that the game just wasn't fun. Anything that people have to put a heavy effort into it. I think turns some off because they don't want to in reality. They need to be pointed into a direction, a good example of telling somebody. Hey, if you're playing stellar blade, you really wanna master combos, escapes and pay attention to the enemy as well as doing counter attacks, and the game starts to make sense.
Wukong is a good entrance to Souls-like genre, it feel weirdly "fair" for it's difficulty, doesn't have many moments like how in Souls game you run through whole dungeon just to get abused by a gang of small enemies or a poison swamp, and bosses get harder but you still feel you get stronger as you progressing
I think you'd like Armored Core 6
And Sekiro
Thanks for the vid! I'm on the fence about it. I've some Qs - Are there more weapons besides your stick? Like any bows, staves, daggers or finger seals etc. Combat looks kinda samey, ya know?
2) Almost all of the review is on combat. Is there much story? Or is it just bossfight intro/ death cutscenes and those little animated bits. Did any of it grip you?
3) Also are there any other types of gameplay, like exploration or puzzles? Sláinte! 🍻
Staff is the only weapon type and you have a variety of spells and abilities, but it’s fully melee. And I’ll be honest, if you haven’t read Journey to the West or aren’t familiar with Wukong then you might be totally lost with the story; it starts off with one of the most famous scenes in the novel and I think the expectation is that we are to already know the characters and the setting. The game definitely has a good story and I loved the twist, but it’s very much dependent on you already being familiar with the original novel!
There are secret levels and characters to unlock but I’m not sure I’d call them puzzles? More like following the clues? No traditional puzzle solving like in God of War. There are 107 bosses in this game and that is certainly the majority of the gameplay!
Hope that helped!!
@@kitetalesthanks so much for the detailed reply! Sounds like I need to get reading 🙂
Yes, fast attacking characters always makes us greedy for more hits before dodging.😅
It’s not a dealbreaker if the game doesn’t have a difficulty setting but I like difficulty options. It doesn’t mean I just want to play easy mode every time and have no challenges. Easier modes, imo, help the player get used to dodging and parrying, without being punished as severely. Once the game becomes too easy then they can up the difficulty for more challenge, smaller dodging and parrying windows, as well as bosses being tougher and deal more damage. I am playing the game as it is though. I’ll play it regardless of a difficulty option. I am currently on chapter 2. I am level 110. Yes I’m grinding sparks. I’m not expecting my character to be OP. I beat the Tiger vanguard first try because I specced the sparks into transformation spells. I got health, defense, and attack maxed, with one point in the rest of the transformation spells. I put points into pluck of many and immobilize. I believe it helped me defeat the Tiger vanguard. I almost died lol but I beat him. I feel that the more sparks I have, the less I have to move sparks around.
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There’s a level farming spot mid game (chapter 4), it makes the game much easier