The Leftovers "I Live Here Now" (S2E10) Review
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- Опубликовано: 11 окт 2024
- The Leftovers, season 2, episode 10, "I Live Here Now" is reviewed by Ben Mankiewicz (Turner Classic Movies) and Alonso Duralde (TheWrap and Linoleum Knife podcast). This could be the final episode of The Leftovers. The Garvey's story is completed and continuous series of secrets behind the lives of the Murphy's is almost cleared up when Evie holds up a sign saying "you understand".
Let us know what Season 3 would look like in the comments!
I think the last earthquake was a reference to the first episode with the cave woman. An earthquake separated her and her baby from her family and in the last episode, Kevin finds his family just after an earthquake
wow that's actually a good interpretation
I really liked season 1.
But clearly season 2 was one of the best seasons of any show, ever.
Guess I'm in the minority but I liked season 1 more
Justin Theroux and Regina King both deserve Emmy nods for this season..
you are so right
+Adam Moody Ann Dowd too. She was amazeballs!
+ben RC Every actor in this masterpiece deserves an Emmy even the dog !
Alonso and Ben you guys are two of my favorites!!! It's been a true pleasure hearing your thoughts on the show. So glad this final review was just the two of you. I always find those to be the best. Also THE KNICK is getting pretty juicy! Where's the reviews at guys??? In the mean time really hoping for another season of the leftovers!!
+Donnie Garbonzo YES! Thank you! I love "The Knick" and no one is reviewing that awesome show. I saw that a few of the first couple of episodes for season 2 were done, but no more. It's like reviews for the show fell through the cracks.
Answering your question about the timing after the girls leave home and when they arrive at the lake, if you look at the back of their car, the metal cutter is on it. Yes, the metal cutter John asked his friend about on yhe firefighters house and the guy didn't find, so we can assume the girls went to the firefighters house before going to the lake.
Kevin went to the grandfather's house before he went to the water too.
I was saying the same thing.
+COMMANDRofAWESUM I think it's safe to assume that the girls didn't go straight to the lake. We see Evie grab a backpack and bolt cutters from the trunk of the car. It's possible they had to get that before staging their disappearance. The earthquake happens a few hours after they all left the dinner party. We know that because in the first episode it wakes up the Murphy household and they notice that Evie didn't come home yet, and she was supposed to be back by 11. When John calls the parents of the other two girls, he says it's 3 o'clock in the morning.
+COMMANDRofAWESUM Evies phone said 2:52am when she left it in the car, the quake was at 3:00 because the clock we seen the first episode.
DewkChronic totally didnt notice that... thanks... this is a show u have to watch a few times over to catch everything...
but why would they not show us if Evie and her girlfriends went to someplace else first? I mean, we're watching their point of view, why hide something that probably could clarify the confusing scene you're about to show us (assuming they know we're about to notice just how inconsistent the timeline is)? it's either a mistake or an intentional situation.
because let's say this time issue is not relevant to what may come (which kind of seems to be the case honestly, since I don't think we'll ever revisit Jarden in season 3), wouldn't it be much less confusing not to show us Kevin at all? you know just cut it out, we would still know that it's the same night, no need to show him doing his part of the story and mess the timeline gratuitously, right? unless, like I said, it's intentional.
so hope is the latter, 'cause if it's a mistake, it's a really big one, I mean it fucks with the timeline so hard that it takes you out of the immersion.
This show is amazing! I watched thw two seasons on demand in two days, forcing myself to seperate from the intriguing complicated characters and plots. The one thing that has stood out was the eposode with Nora and Regina King , when she finally answered the questionnaire and how intense it was. I felt the energy coming through the TV. Did imply that the family members could be responsible for the missing family members, and the theory of the lens phenomenon. Cant wait for season 3!
I agree with Alonzo. I thought earthquakes in Jarden are a harbinger of "miracles". Kevin in the lake, Mary's awakening, Kevin's family together even though he should be dead. Nora's "fix that Jesus" was a nod to this IMO.
wow, great interpretation.
I dont think Mary woke up because of the earthquake, I think she woke up because she touched Lily. Also, I saw the last earthquake as a parallel to the seasons opening with the cavewoman and her family getting trapped inside her home (the cave).
I like the Lily theory. #lilyhugs
I second the Lily theory
+Kody H I like that lily theory too. There's a lot more going on in this show that I can't put together with several of the characters.
Lily is Holy Wayne's kid, and I'm not entirely sure if his shtick was bullshit or not. Holy Wayne offers Tom relief in an episode in Season 1 and Tom refuses, Wayne says something like, "You're all suffering and no forgiveness, aren't you?". Wayne also trusts Tom with protecting Lily's birth mom. To me, it feels like Tom is being willed to protect Lily by design, and this is further backed up by Tom showing up when Lily is about to be trampled to death to save her life again.
Tom seems important, but I have no idea why. He even gets raped by Meg and she reveals her intent is to get pregnant. And who knows what Meg actually knows? If Tom is being willed to protect something important by design, isn't it also possible Meg is being willed to burn the whole place down by design?
And then there's Kevin, who seems super important, but with the underlying bloodline stuff going on here (Which may or may not be connected to the Prehistoric Earthquake in first episode of season 2), is his purpose a benevolent or malevolent? They point out accurately in the review, the earth seems to be spitting him out every time he dies, and when I think about that in combination with your lily theory, I'm not convinced the earthquakes are a good thing.
The only thing I really know about this show, is I'm excited for the next season. Those bastards know how to write good television.
Your analysis is excellent!
+evbb
_she reveals her intent is to get pregnant_
She revealed her intent was to get HIM pregnant, which is a little different. But yeah, I don't think Meg knows a whole lot. Her intent just seems about inflicting as much emotional distress on other people as possible much like Patti.
Excellent review. I hope HBO ides decide to renew this for a third season. It's easily one of the most thought provoking shows out there right now.
Wish they reviewed scene by scene. Wanted to know their opinion on the karaoke scene for example.
+SwissBliss Yeah they didn't even mention "International Assassin" part two.
+Indigocell Would it not be 'Mapleton Sheriff' part one?
Watch the Chris hartwell review ur gunna love it 😁👍🏾
+SwissBliss I loved the Hotel and the International Assassin, it was sorta dark humor sometimes.
In the end John lost his family and Kevin got his back.
One of the most underrated shows of all time.
Sooo the last moment is the first time in the entire series that Tommy and Kevin are reunited, and the series ends there?
love this show
By the way, did anyone notice that one of the songs on the karaoke wheel was "Don't Stop Believing'" by Journey? My head would have spun if that was the song that Kevin had to sing to find his release from that purgatorial hotel.
Hotel California would have been too "on the nose".
+Growltiger Lindelof has mentioned the SOPRANOS ending many times so it was a perfect nod to his love for that finale.
I started laughing when Kevin first started singing when I recognized the song. I thought he was conflicted with the words and his feelings about wanting to go back since he first did not want to be around his family, then the struggle with Nora and Lily.
NO the best would have been "all my exes are in Texas" it was on the board too
+Ada banana. On the nose!
In my opinion,
The last 3 Episodes of season 2, was the best thing written in television history EVER.
But, We need more. even if it takes an extra year to get it done right. so many more questions. how about the guy in the tower, what's his story. the baby why was she "SO IMPORTANT"
It was renewed for 1 more season :)
+Venom Really? They finally announced it?
+Meg Ryan Yep. But unfortunately, they said that season 3 will be the final season. At least it will be coming back though.
Every episode of this season played a nondiegetic cover of a popular song with lyrics that pertained to the tone at hand, so it was brilliant that the 3rd act began with a poignant diegetic covered sung by the main protagonist. Also, this season was made up mostly of close ups and extreme close ups; all the actors did an amazing job of delivering powerful performances with their eyes.
Why does everyone fear John Murphy? He was like the unofficial mayor of the town..
Show was freakin amazing, Regina, Justin and The guys that play Matt and John Murphy all need Emmy's.
Why doesn't anyone have The Miracle Anthem by the Jarden choir on youtube by now.
An answer to a question posed in the video: We know where Evie is: she is with Meg and the GR in the Miracle Visitor Centre. They sang that lovely duet at the end with frightening effect.
+Growltiger Incredibly creepy scene. Liv Tyler is really rocking it this season in the villain role.
1. Back in the first episode of this season, we see Evie and Erika signing to each other. We only catch a glimpse of the conversation. What we catch is Evie saying: "Need" and Erika responding: "You don't need to worry". This was, at least, the night before John's birthday. And, of course, John's birthday is the day Evie disappeared. I think Erika was telling her that she (Erika) is planning on leaving the family soon which is probably one of the reasons why Evie decided to join the GR. On the bridge, the look and tears on Erika's face made it clear that she DOES understand why her baby girl is doing this.
2. Back in season 1 twice we hear a news report talking about an Australian man who claims that he crossed to the other side and came back. I think the guy the Kevin talked to in the Hotel (the man who told him how to get out) is this man. He speaks with a stereotypical "Australian dialect".
3. Speaking of Australia, the letter that the man on the watchtower gave to Micheal was addressed to a man living in Sydney, Australia.
4. Evie is with the GR in that "Welcome to Miracle" building. She was the one singing with Meg.
+majinshenmue I disagree with your theory on Erika telling Evie about her plan to leave .........because remember last episode when Evie encountered Meg when she visited not long after the Departure.....when they were showing Meg's past/background.....Evie says to Meg (that she finds crying on a bench) "Sorry you didn't find what you were looking for here....nobody ever does"....
I think later on when Meg joined the GR and got into the higher ranks...she remembered that day and Evie, saw/recognized that she was a damaged person missing something in her life and a citizen of her target town......somehow got into contact with her and proceeded to brainwash her into the cult where they then planned the disappearance, etc. It would've taken a good while to plan all of that
If your theory were true, that would mean that Evie and Meg somehow met, got thoroughly brainwashed, and planned the whole bridge and infiltration thing all in less than 24 hours? I think not.
I really hated John. From the first second he came on screen. I guess that is good acting. But I really hate that character.
+Jazzmine E Me too. From the jump I knew he was bad news...
Damned straight, dude. John is a thousand miles of bad road.
+Temps Me three and his indulging woman.
the actress who played Evie's performance was very strong hope to see more of her
So glad this show was renewed for season 3.
I know I'm super late on this one, but Evie is in that building with Meg/Liv. She is shown singing with her while Kevin is there.
I feel season 3 could be like a Waco TX situation with ATFEC in Jarden. The Murphy's and Garvey's deal with the fallout of Meg and her Guilty Remnant's actions. That should lead us into Austrailia.
There's not gonna be a season 3.
+Meg Ryan HBO announced they are picking up the series for a third and final season.
I liked the first season just fine, but this season to me was amazing. I wasn't disappointed by any of it and the final scene made me very happy, if the whole series ends with that I guess I'll be okay with it, but I really hope it keeps going.
+buzzardbeatniks There will be a third season, but that will be the last season :(
bitter sweet news.
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Great Episode!!! I thought Season 1 was great but this Season has been amazing and that ending was perfect. I would love to spend more time with all these characters and I think lindelof has a lot of story left to tell but if it ends here, I would be ok with that.
I cried at the end... I never cry I don't understand why
If I were Nora, the "fix that, Jesus" incident would have been spooky but ultimately not convincing. It would've suggested that (i) the world were so Nora-centric that tectonic plates shifted and affected thousands simply to give me an ambiguous come-to-Jesus moment... or (ii) that each time there's an earthquake, somebody out there is sassin' god...
Besides, if point was to chide "lose your 'tude," why punctuate the demonstration with the miraculous awakening of Mary? The tremor collapsing the 2nd-floor bathtub atop her head on the other hand...
And if I were Jesus, I'd have fixed the damn radio... or at least have made the "broken" radio recommence its transmission... That way, it'd be less on-the-nose and leave some wiggle-room for faith. And that would fuck with her a bit more too (a la Lindelof to us).
Season one was a lot like Lost in terms of throwing stuff out there thad had no answers, not even in the mind of the writers. This season didn't go that route, it seems like they had a plan for what was going on and they ended up answering major questions like what happened to the girls and whether or not Mary really woke up, etc.
Also, odds of 9000 people not disappearing given a 2% chance would be 0.98^9000= 10^-79. A very very very small number.
Except....they didn t answer shit.
I like how everytime there is a earth quake, a miracle hapens.
And, at the end, even if it looks like nothing hapens, it is a miracle to have all his love ones together.
@kev0802 ohh didn't when Kevin dropped by the fire department to get the handcuffs unlocked John told the guy to go find the bolt cutters?? If so, this would def explain why he couldn't find them lol
I hope to god this show gets at least one more season. Although I wouldn't mind if this was the end. Its without a doubt my favorite thing on television. The deepness of the conversations it stirs up is overwhelming in a good way. There's some Pavlovian conditioning going on with the main piano theme, my eyes well up every time it plays. There was some time issues with Kevin beating the girls to the lake, he went to the old man's house first. Anyway great show, I hope it returns. Fingers crossed HBO, you do this for the fans.
Great review! best show of 2015 hands down. I think the dog ran away from the town because an earthquake was on the way.
I think statistically the value of .02^9261 is so low that it would be extremely likely for people to have disappeared.
We know where Evie is. Kevin sees her with the GR inside the visitors' center after he was shot, while stumbling through the town
I remember he went to the old man before the lake. Hmmm. Dude was driving sleep lol
AcKnowledge7 peace 7
5.37 * 1015,734 is the statistical odds of Jarden not being subject to a Departure. In relative terms there are 'only' 4 * 1079 atoms in the known universe.
You are, statistically, more likely to win the lotto, every day, continuously, for 20 years than Jarden's population not being directly effected by the event on October 14, 2011.
Source: jameseatscactus. Reddit Mathematician.
Idk 2% of the world's population departing does not necessarily mean it is evenly distributed around the world. If you're saying that the people of Jarden have extended family members or friends outside of Jarden and none of them were departed either then maybe the plausibility is far fetched, but throughout the season the point is the 9,261 residents in Jarden did not depart we never delve into the residents' relationships outside of Jarden.
We also know that Kevin, met with the Murphy grandfather, before trying to drown himself in the lake. He tried to kill himself to get rid of Patty, on the advice of the grandfather, even though he was sleep walking:)
+What The Flick?! Evie was still with Liv Tyler, and the Guilty Remnant at the end of the episode. Remember, they sang that creepy song to Kevin, and he was like, I'm out of here. As for Erica, and her son, we never got any answers as to where they went.
I loved this finale.
There is no way there is not another season. HBO used clips from the show in their promo teaser for the channel just recently.
no Robert. all is right with the world
Did you guys hear? 3rd and final season coming...
I really liked the first season
The odds of no one departing out of 9000 is 0.98^9000 which is like yeah 1 in a trillions
Regina King deserves an Emmy nuff said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You know, everyone seems to miss the point of the show. It's not the disappearances. They just serve as a vessel to relay the message. What do the disappearances all have in common? At the exact moment those people vanished, someone was wishing they would disappear. The moral of the story is to "appreciate what you have." Kevin walking in to see his whole family waiting for him was the culmination of that lesson. The rest is just filling in the blanks.
Drinking game for What the Flick tv recap/reviews. Rule #1, take a drink anytime someone says "ya know."
the only question i have after this episode is when's the fargo review?
Great show but what happened to "FARGO" aka the best show on TV!
I think the earthquake was a useful way to get everyone out of their beds to give kevin that moment where he felt welcome home.
Don't forget that Nora is the reincarnated demon Azazel*. When Kevin is in purgatory listen to the whispers. They are all whispering Azazel's name.
I know this will never happen but what if season 3 is the story of all the departed and wherever they went? Open with people doing normal stuff and just gradually hint to the audience who they all are or something. That'd be a fun mind-f, but seems like Lindelof is trying to be less kooky with Leftovers, which is fine by me this season was amazing.
Well we don't know what happened to the Murphys with that last earthquake so it could mean something....
Season 3, left over should deal with the Kevin, and now he has knowledge of the other side and rescue his father. But it would be amazing to dive in to the actual departure, or some reason return all the departed; the would mirror the news today, with the Syrian refugees.
HBO sent out a tweet Sunday with the wrong population no. 9621. That's wrong by 360 the real population is 9,261. That's probably how many got into the park.
Can somebody checks the hour on Evie's phone when she leaves it in the car planning fake departed? Because the earthquake is said in first episode to happen around 01:00 am So if the hour on the phone is right then it is definitely not a slip from the writers but as they say in the review : the girls made a few stops before heading to the lake
Around 3am
Just when I'm starting to really love the show it might get cancelled. The same thing that happened to Hannibal. Fuck.
+White Antelope Don't worry, HBO has decided to go for a third and final season.
best show on tv
No Homeland review? :(
I thought Kevin went to Michael's grandfather Virgil's house because he was gonna tell him how to get rid of patty. Then he ran off the go drown himself in the lake. Even so the timeline is so off. Also, i forgot but did Michael take him to Virgil's house that night or just gave him directions and he went on his own? Again all while "sleep walking"?? And if Michael was there with Kevin and Virgil, ?? And after the earthquake when John n Michael went to go look for Evie, was Michael privy on that Kevin was in that lake at the time of the girl's "disappearance?? Lol
I felt the show left lots of unanswered questions -- like, what's up with Kevin, and all the earthquakes and deaths and resurrections? Is he Jesus or something? Why did he have to keep killing Patti? Why was she hanging onto him in the first place? Is he just crazy, or is there really something supernatural about him?
And for God's sake, why was there so much smashing of electronics in this show?
I love the show way more than Lost, which really descended into narrative criminality, but still ... I don't know if The Leftovers actually made some kind of sense that I just don't see, or was trying to make sense but didn't quite pull it off, or didn't even try to make sense, a la Lost.
Exactly like lost. The writer is a piece of shit. I feel like a moron for giving him a second chance. He fucked up. Especially if that was the last episode of the series.
***** Answers kill things? Maybe if he would have given a few in lost, he wouldn't have KILLED his ratings. Just sayin'
Kevin went to the lake from Virgile's house.
They better pull off a third season. I cannot accept a series ending where the mild terrorism of the Guilty Remnant goes unpunished or there's not even an explanation as to why the people in Jarden would deserve to have their town thrashed and several of them injured or maybe killed in the process (seeing as there has not been any retaliation so far, and it's friggin Texas we're talking about). It might be just me as the GR has always been the part of the show that makes me cringe as their motivation and reason for existing remains unexplained for the most part, at least in a convincing way. Maybe that's the point and you're supposed to hate them visceraly but I cannot excuse the stupidity of the characters who assume that they have something to offer or that 'they know something' just because they act weird (very Lindelofian).
Evie is with Meg.
Its when the baby touches Mary that she wakes up.
I didn't think Nora fought very hard when that crazy lady took the baby. If someone took one of my step-kids I would scream, flail, punch, kick and otherwise fight like a honey badger. Nora really didn't fight that hard.
Also the dog ran away from the town because of the final earthquake. Animals can sense when earthquakes are coming.
As for the season 3 being about the Murphys, Patty did say something like, "I can't figure out if he is a part of your story or you are part of his," To Kevin.
I don't know if it was the pacing or if it felt rushed overall, but all of Nora's scenes felt off to me in this episode.
MIchelle4reel I'll have to watch the episode again, thanks bro. Seriously though, don't you think she should have been pushing people down and actually running after the baby?
+septogram7 I agree. I would've caught up to her and beaten the brakes off of that crazy bitch in five seconds...
Is it justme that thinks the ppl who dissapeared arent actually the ppl that dissapeared. And they are all in urgatory or some religious bullshit.
The LOSTovers
Lol
Love it!
I didn't like how the show so directly revealed that magic is real while still trying to avoid explanation for the departure. Felt like a cheat really, and contradictory to the foundation of what the series is about. I mean, really, what was the point of introducing that?
Precisely. Leave it to Lindeloff to do this....again. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice..I'm just a dumbass. Should have known not to watch this show after I found out the writer of Lost made it.
+Damon242 Its not about finale. Its about process.
+TheVasyakrokop Ahhh...sure it is.
Why is it just the two of you?
The last earthquake was to compare to the first one with the cave woman.
where is homeland
it's America!!! Fuck yeah!!!
homeland?
the earthquake from the first episode maybe was caused by Meg , to disguise the runaway of the 3 girls .... she had explosives and the earthquake happened after kevin be saved.
First!!
Earthquakes without aftershocks, a small but frustrating oversight...
And the earthquake occurring simultaneous to the disappearance was an annoying misdirection on behalf of the writers.
+Damon242 +Damon242 It's not an oversight if the earthquakes aren't natural occurrences. If there is no fault plane to settle, then there would be no aftershocks.
Punk0 you'll have to clarify here what you mean by "fault plane". I live in an earthquake-prone area and have never heard of that before.
What is there that suggests that these earthquakes aren't natural occurrences? Lack of aftershocks is a common issue in television depictions of earthquakes, but there isn't anything in the season that ever suggests that they're supernatural
Damon242 The timing of the quakes are what suggest that they aren't natural. The first one happens at the moment Kevin drowns himself, I can't remember what was happening during the second, but they are clearly syncing up with events in the story. That's not natural, or they are giant coincidences stemming from bad writing. Considering who's writing, I'm guessing they aren't coincidental. Kevin seems to keep being sent back from a sort of purgatory, and should have died multiple times. That's not natural either. If they are going to try and give scientific explanations for what has gone on, the last season is going to be a mess. There are so many things that go beyond natural in the show, including millions of people disappearing at once, that I don't see where your resistance is coming from. Not only are those two quakes tied together, but I'd be shocked if they weren't tied to the one that happened when the cave collapsed at the beginning of the season. Wasn't it right at the time of a child birth? Doesn't Kevin seem to be being reborn every time he dies? Taking Lost as an example, Lindelof is no stranger to symbology like this. The sad part is that he also doesn't like completely explaining everything and loves ambiguity, so we may never know all the answers.
Leave it to the young turds to insert gun politics into a movie with almost no guns involved.
While I love the Leftovers, season one would have been a great ending. Season 2, not so much they introduced more wrinkles into the disappearance like connecting Nora to Azrael...yet somehow managed to ignore it for the rest of the season.
The problem with season 3 is what are they going to do. The essentially wrapped up the Garveys though they have plenty of potential material with Lily and the GR.
this show is full of s***