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Why Smart People Don't See What's Wrong With Trump
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- Published on Apr 18, 2026
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Sam Harris speaks with Sarah Longwell and Tim Miller about Trump and the future of American politics. They discuss the origins of The Bulwark, the bewildering psychology of Trump’s base, the new era of authenticity, memory-holing January 6th, how media broke politics, why Kamala Harris should never run again, the difference between America First and MAGA, potential 2028 Democratic candidates, and other topics.
Sarah Longwell is the publisher of The Bulwark, which she helped found in 2019, and hosts the podcast “The Focus Group,” which is in its sixth season. She is a recognized expert in qualitative research, having hosted hundreds of focus groups and talked to thousands of voters from across the country and the political spectrum. In addition to The Bulwark, Sarah’s work has been featured on PBS NewsHour, CNN, MSNBC, and elsewhere.
Tim Miller is the host of The Bulwark Podcast and an MSNBC political analyst. He is the author of Why We Did It: A Travelogue from the Republican Road to Hell. Tim has worked on campaigns for John McCain, Mitt Romney, and Jeb Bush.
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I paid for the “Making Sense” Podcast, I thought that I could watch it on RUclips also, let me know please.
Sam’s a real genius. I don’t get why he’s on the left. He’s not just an elitist intellectual either! He’s genuinely credentialed and yet here he is. Maybe he’s there to herd as many as he can away from the far left cliff of communism and red-green alliance and antisemitism….i don’t know..it’s a wasteland
Genocide Sam will tarnish Tim's rep.
I used to listen to the podcast but sam went a little nutty supporting genocide and very pricy.
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.”
― Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark
He was talking about YOU.
Hubris
Yeah, it's a version of the sunken cost fallacy as Sarah pointed out in the video.
Plus, so many low-information/low-intellect voters reason: "Well, it couldnt _all_ be garbage, there must be _some_ substance" to the smoke the right-wing maga-verse generates. (When, nope, it's all smoke, all cynically generated in volume for just this intellectually dishonest reason.)
@s@skat1140magine all you knew as a “low information” voter was that the prior administration was smuggling in millions of illegals and that it’s now come to a stop. Would you feel “bamboozled” if that’s what concerned you most? Are people allowed to oppose such things without ridicule?
“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”
― Upton Sinclair
Is Harris paid by Israel?
@jamesgains8652you can criticize her when she's president. Until then, quiet piggy, the topic of discussion is the rotten orange tyrant
Is that quote referring to Joe Biden.
@jimmymags6516It's referring to people like Candace and Ben Shapiro who make literally millions of dollars lying their audience, as well as the other congress people who support Trump because if they don't he will put a primary target on their back and they'll have to return to civilian life.
@quippurb So it only applies to people on the right.
People who revel in other people’s pain should never be running a country. 17:17
You mean like those who celebrated after Charlie Kirk was assassinated?
@mogznwaz thankfully they're not in the current administration. HOWEVER, this president, in his last term, enjoyed being cruel to little children and even babies so much that eventually all living 1st ladies including Melania AND every leader of major religions including people like Franklin Graham wrote him letters asking him to stop. Anybody who likes to be cruel to babies is the worst of the worst. And before you answer with a comment about abortion remember that the bible Trump claims to believe says the power of death and life is in the tongue and the God Trump claims to follow values the spirit more than the body.
@mogznwaz And the ones that celebrated the attacks and murders of Democrats. Of which were including prominent Republicans and Trump. No Democrat elected officials celebrated Charlie Kirk's murder. See the difference?
@mogznwaz Yes. Which of them is infecting the Oval Office right now?
@zemorph42People like this don’t want to see the difference.
"Its easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled" - Mark Twain
My favorite observation!
True! I also like, "You can fool some of the people all of the time."
Twain was a great man. I think I would add the word "some" to that one though ... Easy to fool some people.
The profile of gullible people is interesting.
Absolutely true!
So perfectly encapsulates what this hack has become. Total shill is Harris
"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."
- Isaac Asimov
True AND there is a tried and true history of educated people trampling those they deem lower class. If the Epstein class has had a boot on your neck, you might come by your anti-intellectualism logically. Is a "factual" argument accurate or gaslighting? When some people try to sound smart, they may be trying to dupe you. Once duped, you reject anyone who sounds the same way. An emotional and logical reaction.
@beckywashington6988 Nah. A boot on your neck doesn't mean you abandon logic and science. Epstein and Trump are far from representing "intellectualism." They are thugs.
@b@beckywashington6988ouldn’t it be cool if critical thinking skills were taught in the public schools? When I read comments some people make online, I get the impression that they might not be aware of the existence of logical fallacies. I get the impression they don’t recognize how many of them are contained in their posts. I notice MAGA types rarely use complete sentences. They’re well versed in emojis, stickers and lines of American flags. It’s common to see a smart ass remark, a sweeping generalization and/or an ad hominem attack followed by LOL and a laughing emoji. Lately, if I receive a response like that from a male who has the need to “put me in my place,” I respond with the words “QUIET, PIGGY!” It’s okay to say that, now.
@beckywashington6988What do you mean by “educated” people? Do you mean people who read tons? Do you mean people who have been to college? Or do you mean people with more means than you? I’m not sure what you mean by logical either. When I think of “logical ” I think of the word in terms of various philosophy classes, but that’s not how most people use that word colloquially. People typically use the word in casual conversation to mean reasonable and valid. But what you describe in your comment is actually prejudice, the opposite of reasonable and valid, which I doubt is what you think. I doubt you are the sort of person who would say that because you were mugged by a black guy, it is reasonable and valid to believe that all black men are criminals. Or let’s use a thornier example that’s more analogous to the point you made. From a broad historical perspective “white” people rampaged all over the world stealing, raping, and murdering people. Then they subsequently created governments that for centuries made and enforced policies that favored the descendants of colonizers. Would you also argue that it is reasonable and valid for me to view all “white” with suspicion?
At this point in human history, it seems obvious to me that any group of people is a mixed bag. Some really good and some truly terrible people in whatever category you care to assign to them. I know that this complicates relationships and prejudice certainly simplifies how we think about people, especially people we do not view as being a member of our own group. I acknowledge that prejudice is a comforting emotional crutch that provides the illusion of safety. But there’s amble historical evidence that prejudice always turns round to bite us in the gnards and therefore is not a viable long term solution to humanity’s problems. We can and we must engage in more nuanced thinking for all our sakes.
I put the word “WHITE” in quotation marks because the term is historically dynamic. It can mean the favored class in any given society. It also tends to have an assumed meaning that is understood by members of a culture. In this context, I used the word “WHITE” to mean the descendants of European colonizers, especially those with a relative lack of melanin. To be clear I do not view all “white” people as bad nor do I believe all black guys are criminals. I try to avoid thinking about groups of people monolithically, but I would never claim to be free from prejudice. I rather enjoy mining my own cockamamie beliefs and confronting them. These days that tends to be less focused on skin color and ethnicity, and more about gender and biological sex.
It is a strain of populism and THAT is a reaction to American Oligarchs. If we could find a way to SHOW (not tell) them that they have defined the problem incorrectly. It’s not the elite education that should be bothering them. I have no idea how to do that, but I’m hopeful Epstein’s connection to Republicans will become a lever.
The only remotely insightful comment Trump has ever made: "Smart people don't like me".
One of the times I ever agreed with him. The other, " I love the poorly educated".
He also once said, "I don't think I'm heaven bound."
Don't forget, "I don't care about you. I just want your vote."
That's not the point. The actual question is "Why Smart People Don't See What's Wrong With Themselves For Refusing To Support Bernie Sanders," since that's why we got Trump. The Democrats created Trump. The Democrats made sure he got the Republican nomination. And the Democrats, in their desire to crush genuine leftist dissent against the machine, made sure Trump became the president. Twice. This shit is on you. The real left has known how the world works for decades. We warned you that Bernie was the final exit ramp from the highway to hell and you called us N*zi brownshirt Bernie Bros. Also, f*ck you all for not wanting us to have healthcare. You own this.
Oh YES!!!-my favourite quote!
This is a crossover that I never considered happening, but I'm so glad it came about! 😊
This
Same here. This was like Christmas when I was 8 years old. I listen and/or read everything from both Sam and The Bulwark. My only slight disappointment is that JVL wasn’t included.
Yeah it’s like Superman teaming up with Spider-man and Captain Marvel
Thank you Sam Harris for standing up for Israel and against Hamas Hezbollah Houthis and Iran !
This is AI
I have been saying since 2015 that I am living through “Invasion of the Body Snatchers.” Where are the people I thought I knew?
I don't live in the US, for people outside of your country we have gone from a strange fascination with it to a reluctant acceptance to now being more confused and angry then ever.
@hillfortherstudios2757Rational people within the US feel the same as you do. We will never understand the blind allegiance to the most corrupt president we’ve ever had.
Since 2001.
@lsouthern64just to placate my curiosity, do people there see him as being worse than other presidents?
I have always thought that presidents had too much power full stop. However, this guy really knows how to work it so his power is essentially unilateral and unlimited.
Trump has absolutely exposed how many people are not very smart and how many people are absolutely okay with choosing cruelty, so long as they feel safe. The Party of Leopards Eating People's Faces campaigned hard when they thought it was someone else's face and now we're all paying for it.
Tim describes a problem of considering Trump that we have noticed in family court.
We tell our clients that the narcissistic partner, when given the chance to speak, will flood the zone with 50 lies about you. And the mistake is to try and address any of them. At most you may have time to address three, but since you didn’t address the other 37, the court will assume those are true. We make the client memorize the only line they are to say when offered the chance to speak. When the judge asks for a response, you are to say: “On the facts and evidence, everything they just said is untrue.” Now the court has to find other ways to consider their decisions because you just neutralized the lies. Tim is right: The mistake is to try and sift out the lies from the half lies, from the half-truths…from anything else. The problem is, since there is no judge in this dynamic to move things forward, we end up going to corners and demonizing each other with the help of the networks and politicians that Sarah identified. What is the successful way forward?
Right on! I had to write that down!
Maybe we need to act as though the judge exists, act as though we _are_ in a courtroom. I personally think we are doing a lot better fighting Trump, lately, just letting him implode and fall apart on his own.
It's just so pointless, to try and explain why Trump is bad, to call out his lies, it's enormously wasteful. It's better to ignore him, gather strength, and carefully chose the right moment to counter-attack, to strike at precisely the moment he's vulnerable. Or otherwise, just ignore the dude, it seems to be working.
IMO, all these people in the Whitehouse, and a lot of leadership in the RNC, one day they will be branded as pariahs. One day, Trump will be gone. But we will all still be here.
Nice approach indeed. But 37+3 isn't 50.
In my view it’s a matter of culture building, deliberately creating a culture where truth, facts, reason, decency and care for others are valued.
I wish the Democrats would finally recognize that there are no stats anymore. Republicans lie about everything, or at the very least, they dont ever challenge, even the most obvious lies, therefore, when they say immigration is down 90 percent, just say, we dont believe you. When they say the economy is great? Wdby. When they say drug prices are dow, crime is down, democrat cities are bad, america is trusted? Wdby, wdby, wdby, wdby.
Because yonly a foll would believe ANY republican on any subject. They have just been a part of gar too many lies to get even the tiniest sliver of benefit of doubt
IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BEING SMART. Cults work on emotion, not logic.
Ehhhh……….. most MAGAts are REALLY dumb and most intelligent people aren’t MAGA
The problem with the "at least Trump is fighting for the good guys" justification is that the Republicans are not the good guys.
Bingo
almost like feelings....over facts
Yup
The further a society drifts from the truth, the more they will hate those that speak it. It explains a lot of what is going on in our country right now. The quote is from Orwell.
America was keener on timeless fables and narrative and neat facile stories to explain things than complex, ever-changing truth.
How are they missing the innate (and possibly subconscious) racism in the “smart” people who go with Trump? Whether conscious, intentional, or not, it is impossible to be a Trumper and not be a go along to get along racist, if not a veritably white supremacist. 28:46
I never thought I'd live through a Pandemic & the beginnings of 2 dystopian novels in one lifetime. (1984 & Handmaids Tale) Hell-Stephen King couldn't have gotten a book published about all this b/c a publisher would've told him it's too unbelievable even for your readers! I literally wake myself up saying WTF out loud a few times a night! And honestly-at this point-I'm not ruling out Zombies & I'm not referring to Republicans in congress.
@suerichards-u4c agreed. i'm with you!
@woodrowpuppy'no you' is the best you have?
Canadian here. I believe America doesn’t benefit from its jingoism. The tired old mantra of self-proclaimed “Greatest Country in the World” blinds its people to global balance and appreciation for other nations. It seems to be accepted that the rest of the world envies USA. This is a misconception. Many of us are grateful we don’t live in a gun-toting culture without healthcare solutions that protect the poor.
America needs to douse its hubris and claim its place as one country among many. Won’t happen of course. Too embedded in the culture.
They are well on their way to the bottom of the pile, don't worry. Lots of the US perceived power was through soft powers, which trump ditched completely, because he doesn't understand anything important. The rest of the world makes plans without the US right now.
@Dave1507"The rest of the world makes plans without the US"--as well they should. We cannot be trusted anymore. The only way we can even try to make America acceptable again is to be free of the Trump regime and the MAGAts. I apologize to the rest of the world for our stupidity and insanity.
@CjV-k8u If you voted against him, you've got nothing to apologize for, but thanks anyway. Good luck rebuilding when this is all over.
@Dave1507I definitely voted against him all 3 times; and I've been so vocal about it since 1/6/21 that I've been excommunicated by my only sibling and her husband. Have distanced myself from friends I've known for decades because I've lost respect for them. I'm 74 years old; I don't have enough time left in my life to deal with MAGAts. It's been so disheartening to discover that I didn't know these people as well as I thought I did. 💔 This was a very interesting conversation; going to listen to it again, with the MAGAs I know in mind. I'm still trying to understand how these smart people I know were brainwashed. It's baffling.
@CjV-k8u yes. I’m in the same situation. No longer in a relationship with American cousins who are not who I thought they were.
Tim is definitely the reason why I got hooked on the Bulwark. He’s articulate, intelligent and passionate.
And wrong
and he also is petty catty mean & derogatory ... a high school cafeteria bully ...
@SaintGBar22 No. He's usually right. He's also funny.
@direwolf6234 Nah, he calls out the BS that is right there for everyone to see. You sound pretty defensive TBH
@SaintGBar22 Sounds like you have a lot of trouble with the truth and straight talking. People like you are the reason we got here.
The degree in which tribalism dictates global behavior is super underacknowledged. We're 8 billion primates divided into massive tribes
That’s the core problem with Israel; it’s the most racial-supremacist, tribalist state on the planet. Anti-Israel IS NOT antisemitism, unlike what Sam says here; it is acknowledging the brutal genocidal cult mindset of the murderous settlers and land thieves who view the “out-group” as subhuman servants.
That's a top down game of divide and Conquer.
With just a relatively small handful of people controlling each of the tribes, and the ones controlling the tribes are all friends.
Yep. NFL. Olympics. College sports. All meant to keep us divided.
@jsacodes916recent examples of controlled opposition, Jordan Peterson, Nigel Farage, Vivek etc
1) your pov is marginalized, perhaps attacked regularly
2) suddenly a public figure appears sympathetic
3) the marginalized group flocks to this leader
4) this leader redirects the marginalized, back into the fold.
5) wash rinse repeat.
Repetition = Education ... This is what conservative media has mastered .... When I talk to my elderly neighbors outside, they "repeat" phrases from Trump as if they are fact. They have been "programmed." When I ask them questions about these statements, they seem confused, as if I'm "questioning a fact." .... When I point out something, such as "Do you realize that is 'Not True' - that Trump said something on TV outside the courthouse that was opposite of his "under oath" deposition video - Would you like to see his deposition video? I can show you." Then they become defensive, "Oh no, I don't need to see that. Everyone has their opinion" ... In other words, if you present "facts" which counter their views, they see those facts as "opinions." BTW, I get along fine with my neighbors. They're nice people. But it's like watching someone eat Fast Food at every meal, then they wonder why they are pre-diabetic. They don't "realize" that they have been infected by these mind viruses spread by conservative social media.
and they believe in the book? Believing bs is programmed in.
Sure but you don't fall for that if you're clever
I can think of some highly educated people who are full-on Trumpers - and they pose as champions of moral values too! For some people it comes down to reactionary impulses and bigotry and a hatred of "the left" so deep that they'll support a psychopath as their weapon against what they hate.
I agree but belief in non-truths is not confined to just one side of the house. It’s almost impossible to be completely open minded to all sides of everything and even then you need to come up with a take on it and a lot of that will be forged from your upbringing before you could critically think for yourself. Just growing up in western society gives us an ideologue other societies would balk at. Lots to it, I think the key is to realize we don’t know everything and that no one does. Thats actually a truth that binds us all no matter where you come from (apart from the loonies and extremists, there are always exceptions 🙄). I think it’s that humility that is missing from the present admin and that’s dangerous. It’s also susceptible to humility (any dem candidates listening?) Just gotta believe in the truth, that’s all trump’s doing. It’s just one he’s made up. He’s effectively put doubt into truth and in so doing is de-powering it and the critical thinking that comes with it and which he can’t do. Power it up again. Outsmart him. Out truth him. Stand up.
And they probably couldn’t actually define “the left” either. I’ve encountered the same characteristics.
Being smart does not determine ones ability to be kind.
As a Canadian I have to say Tim and Sarah are the kind of Americans that make me sigh in relief. Glad to see them here 👍
This Canadian from Newfoundland agrees with you 500 percent.
Fellow Canadian agrees!
The media doesn't give a good representation of what most Americans are like. There are over 300 million of us and we all disagree and have different opinions on basically everything
@Paddy-b4h as a progressive in MS... i'm surrounded by trump-thumpers... it is exhausting. and i can tell you exactly how Shitler came to power. propaganda.
it hurts my heart how much people can't disengage from this political shit because it is part of their identity , and they don't even realize that.
They suck marginally less than most republicans.
This happened to me last night. My sister said to me (on a phone call) that Tim Walz and the mayor of Minneapolis are so corrupt. When I tried to say "Corrupt? You want to talk about corrupt how about Trump..." and she stopped me for the fifth time at least, I don't want to talk about politics, I just want us to have nice relationship and not be torn apart." I asked her what news she was watching and she said "news, the regular news." I said "If you are watching CBS, ABC, NBC or Fox you are watching news that is owned by billionaires and you aren't getting a complete or accurate picture." Then I told her -you have to dig deeper (mind you there was additional talk in between...I'm not quoting the entire conversation word for word)...her response was "if you say so." After hanging up I felt very sad and realized that there are millions like her out there who have no idea what is really going on.
I gather you knew all about Biden, right?
Not sure why you would lump NBC and Fox in the same category?
Of course, NBC is giving a center (or even center-right) POV, but Fox is, and always has been, pure MAGA mouthpiece.
(Meanwhile, CBS, via Bari Weiss, has migrated to "MAGA Lite" category.)
You should have asked her what the word corrupt means. People like to throw the word around but most have no clue what it means. To them, corrupt means bad and bad means the politician who is not a member of my party. Righties love to call Biden corrupt, but whatever one thinks of him, good or bad, he was not corrupt. And certainly that word should never come out of the mouths of any ardent Trump supporters.
@billcoleman4258is Biden currently running the country?
So your response to a claim presented to you was to use a whataboutism? That Trump is corrupt has nothing whatever to do with the corruption in Minneapolis. Maybe that's why you can't have a nice relationship with your sister. Maybe you're both awful, know knows.
"Invasion of the Body Snatchers" . This is EXACTLY how it feels.
76 yr old Boomer lady here. I saw Trump as a danger from the beginning, but by then I had lived through a rural childhood, college in a racist small town and decades running a retail business. Once one learns to recognize an evil predator it is impossible to ignore one. The best explanation I've ever read for Trump voters was actually written by Dietrich Bonhoeffer in his letters from jail in WWII Germany. Too lengthy to go into here, but worth your time to look up.
European here. I felt immediately in 2015 that Trump was bad news for the world. And i never understood the appeal, at all. There is a sickness in US, and i think religion, education and a lack of critical thought is to be blamed.
I agree, as an American.
Bread and circuses. 😢
You think that RELIGION is to be blames? Ho hum. Europe with its empty cathedrals...
Which Pope would you describe as being a fan of Trump?
You mean uneducated that Trump seems to love so much
the problems are greed, hate, and delusion. "Same as it ever was"
Holy moley. I'm 75 years old, a genuine disabled Vietnam war veteran, who voted for George Mcgovern in 1972. Me and my father couldn't understand why a decorated bomber pilot from World War 2 couldn't defeat a creep like nixon. Now I think I understand. The kind of craziness we see today was there in 1972 only it was in the background and the mass media was tightly controlled by corporate forces through sponsorships of the 3 networks. So today who controls the mass media? Obviously everyone and no one. The only people really in control of mass media today are the tech companies with the help of the government.
How did Reagan defeat GHW Bush in their primary ? Style over substance.
Respectfully: My father and I couldn't understand...
The tech companies colluded with the Biden administration to shut down stories unfavourable to Democrats and censored conservatives.
@missmurry. Really unnecessary pedantic comment. Nothing respectful about it. Do you have anything of substance to say?
@pollymorphic500 yep, "respectfully", always followed immediately disrespect.
"Like an AA meeting but less joyful." 😆 🤣 😂
As soon as she said "like an AA meeting", my brain finished with "minus Jesus."
"We live in strange times." Indeed!
More of this please. I could listen to sensible people all day long.
When sensible people cant make sense of something (like Trump´s popularity), they are most likely misunderstanding the thing they are looking at.
@MrMartinnorenit can be and was explained, but if you're used to the maga speach, it can be difficult to understand adult language. Trumps popularity doesn't look that good these days, by the way
@MrMartinnoren sensible is subjective. These people want to maintain the economic status quo because they are rich and comfortable inside of it, and rabidly ignore criticism of how the failures of this status quo are manifesting into what we are seeing socially. They cannot fathom that people would vote for trump our of a desperate desire to change the status quo... The Bulwark specifically is designed to pitch feckless centrism to disaffected democrats so that a progressive left doesn't emerge as a true challenge to fascism or the established economic order.
Listen to Michael Wolfe on inside Trump's head, at that point, you'll realize that people like Tim and Sarah when they pontificate about Trump's actions is completely kindergarten level skirting... Michael Wolfe ran in the circles with Trump and knows all of these clowns from seven months in the Trump presidency where he gave him full access to observe,… After listening to Michael Wolfe, and then listening to these people you realize they have no idea what they're talking about and they're just dragging people along to click another episode of whatever they"chatting about"... podcast or a waste of time... do a little experiment and try to make a mental note when you actually hear something that you haven't already known... I guarantee 90% of the podcast will be filler.
@billykilgannon His economic policy was by Wall St for Wall St and Obamacare was a gift to health insurance companies. Also his DOJ did give Epstein a super sweetheart deal... and for his service, the DOJ fuck who facilitated it got to be Trump's labor secretary... Trump is a fascist, but the 1% that funds MAGA also funds the establishment corporate Dems like Obama and ensures the Dem party is just controlled opposition. Opinionists like the Bulwark are how the 1% propagandize feckless centrism to the disaffected Democrat voters to keep the opposition toothless and controlled.
Every MAGA accusation is a confession. Every MAGA promise is either a lie or a threat. Every. Single. One.
You might want to list them...
@That1_JAZZY You might want to pay attention to reality.
You went to sleep after the Super Bowl.
Here’s what Trump did while America slept:
He forced Ghislaine Maxwell before Congress.
She refused every question.
Then her lawyer panicked and offered a deal:
clemency for testimony.
A woman serving 20 years for sex trafficking
is so terrified of what Trump is uncovering
that she’s BEGGING for a way out.
He said NO.
His DOJ released 6 MILLION pages of Epstein files. The result?
Prince William and Kate broke their silence for the FIRST time. “Deeply concerned.”
The Royal Family is in full panic mode.
Norway’s ambassador RESIGNED.
Their crown princess apologized.
An entire country is crumbling.
The chairman of one of America’s most powerful law firms - Paul Weiss - RESIGNED overnight.
Lord Mandelson is under CRIMINAL investigation in the UK.
Larry Summers RESIGNED from OpenAI.
One man released the files.
And the entire global elite is falling apart.
Netanyahu flies to Washington Wednesday. Iran nuclear deal on the table.
Trump is reshaping the Middle East in real time.
All of this.
In one weekend.
They told you no president could touch them.
He didn’t just touch them.
He buried them.
Yup. And since they believe the left does it, they allow themselves to fo this openly. Only...the left doesn't do this, so in reality they are just being openly evil lmao.
Love the bulwark! Thanks for having them on!!
Are you me?
what's to love ? .. for years they supported terribly bad & cruel policies with no regard for less fortunate people .. their entire staff has no people of color while they all come from rich & privileged backgrounds ...
@direwolf6234 its the Daily Wire for feckless centrists...
@direwolf6234 Their commentary is entertaining and interesting, thats why I love them.
I am willing to forgive people for things I disagree with if they change their mind. I can still be critical of people for their past and current viewpoints without completely discarding them.
I dont keep score on how many minorities are employed by a company when deciding if I like them and I dont care in the slightest if someone is rich or privileged.
@MichaelSmith-rr7mo what about the top10% and epstein class ?
"I look at Alex Jones and I can see an obvious role for medication in his life"
I got seriously lightheaded laughing at that 🤣
As a progressive I probably don't agree on many policy issues with Sarah & Tim, but I have come to trust them to tell it straight over almost anyone else (including most of the progressive podcasters I listen to).
Yep. Totally. Although I think I agree with Tim more often than I do Sarah, no shade Sarah, you are a favorite of mine too.
Perhaps because they are not progressive ideologues.
@vivamertlich5069Being gay doesn't mean you will turn out progressive. And Sarah absolutely isn't.
@track1949It does. Homosexuality is inherently leftist.
Tim defending Ben Shapiro isn’t a stance that shows integrity.
I've just assumed that most of them don't care as long as he enables their worst impulses and self-entitled views.
For the record I love the name “Bulwark”.
Trump isn't the problem. The problem is that 77 million people think he's the solution.
It's both.
The problem is the left has veered from facts.
@annakingry9157 Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
@Kamala-km4ty pot calling the kettle black. Unbelievable.
Watching from Europe…it was the fault of the democrats. The choice was was either Trump or…dimwit Kamala Harris, men in women’s bathrooms, more vaccine and drug injuries making big pharma richer, more lockdowns and control over the population and destruction of small businesses…combine that with forward thinking Elon Musk opening up free speech again by buying twitter and aligning himself with Trump, and bringing in rfk jr. who promised to go after big pharmacy, big agro etc. People were fed up with constantly being manipulated by traditional politicians. Your voters have spoken. Your ‘reasons’ for why they voted the way they did is painfully ignorant and uninformed either willfully or recklessly.
My favorite worlds are colliding!
Really?
There are rarely any black guests. Maybe that doesn't bother you. But it bothers me.
You’re complaining about something that isn’t even true. More than 14% of his guests have been Black - above the national percentage. This is what happens when outrage replaces basic math.
@track1949 Got problems with any other groups lack representation on Sam's pod, or just black?
The dullness of filtering everything through the lens of identity politics is on full display in your comment. Merit of ideas and actions > ethnicity or sexual preference. Drill that into your head.
Islamophobe and adjacent to every Trump legitimizer Sam "I think Trump deserves the Nobel Peace Prize" Harris?
Funny, you never grew up.
@basharal-asshead458 Get this: I don’t agree with him on every issue, and I don’t have to! 🫢🤯
The reality is that Trump is 90 to 95 percent of what Republicans want. Tax cuts for the rich, disempowerment of labor, privatization of public services and resources. They are just uncomfortable that Trump moves so brazenly and wantonly immorally to quickly get these things, with an added layer of personal self enrichment and centralizing of power.
Keep lying, cultist. Keep pretending. Keep roleplaying. Meanwhile you abject idiots did in fact destroy the border on day 1 of vegetable Biden and have been gaslighting everyone about it forever. That is why you got Trump.
No, he has increased national debt, decreased citizen rights, increased government overreach, socialized industry, all against Republican values. Makes it even more ridiculous that they support him.
@Louwho87 proclaimed** republican values. Sure they talk about those things, but look at what they've done when in power.
Republican's haven't stood for the things they say they do, arguable since the catastrophe that was Reagan.
@Louwho87people hate republicans. They just hate leftists more
@Louwho87 If that was true, Republicans would have rebelled in Trump's first term and the Bush Jr years when the debt exploded, and the conservative supreme court eroded people's rights and voice.
This pod is at the heart of what I find the most frightening and confusing aspect of what is happening. People that I have known well for years who wholeheartedly continue to support Trump. These are not people from the heartland who have been screwed for years by both parties. These are well educated, successful people who are financially comfortable. These are people who would have been horrified by so much of what is happening in the past. The one thread that I have found running through all of them is the fact that they became involved with and adherents to evangelical Christian groups/churches. All had mainstream Christian upbringings (Episcopal, Presbyterian, etc). The other consistency is that they always tell me that I’m not watching the “correct” media/new-sites. Weirdly, some of them refuse to tell me what these “real” media sites are. The ones who have point to specific “Christian” media sites-which I can’t find. It feels like trying to talk to a schizophrenic and challenging their delusions (speaking from experience on this-not hyperbolically). This is a two pronged hell to live through. I’m watching my country be destroyed by a man who should have gone down in history as a distasteful joke. And I’m watching people that I love and care about support this and disappear into being the Stepford wives.
Delusional beliefs is probably key regarding what is going on with many of these people…you can’t reason or explain reality to them. Especially Christians whose flavor of tribe demands loyalty to more extremist fundamental beliefs. Some churches are split. And likely various levels of underlying racism and resentments/grievance exist which amplifies their attachment to T. Rex. It is sad to lose connections and our democracy in this way.
What policies do you disagree with? Surely you support a crackdown on the massive illegal alien invasion?
Well said. I’m in a similar boat. The common thread I’ve experienced, from people I’ve known a long time, is they are heavily driven by fear and God-compliance, be it Christian, Jewish, Muslim, etc. I see heavy doses of narrow, fear-based thinking in their world view, which drives them to support those who promise order and rule with a heavy fist. I’m not talking about all religious adherents, but am referencing those who bear an oversized fear of scary people, ideas, and things, along with an undersized grasp of nuance, grey lines, and grace. I’m not sure the source of this neurology, or which came first - the wiring or the propaganda - but they are driven to seek comfort in the perceived shelter of a powerful force that will bring world order and reward their compliance.
So … along comes a charismatic con man who says the right things, demonizes the scary people, and promises world order with a heavy hand, and they elect him. They’re basically revering this bronze-toner adulterer as a type of deity, a balm to their scary world. Never mind this con man is swindling his flock from right under their noses. It’s disheartening.
@candorsspot2775 Please don't do the fascist dance. It's embarrassing.
Yes, crime is bad. No, we should not give hundreds of billions to masked untrained thugs shooting disarmed men on the ground.
Also, Biden had a bill that would have addressed the problems at the border. The Trump cult rejected it. Causing problems in order for racists to run rampant.
Pretty sure I know where Jesus would stand on what is happening. Not on the Evangelical side.
I have a friend who is a die-hard Trumper. When I ask her about some inconsistency, she immediately says, "Fake news."
Best crossover of the year yet
Exactly
agreed
Awesome! Thought I was dreaming that this matchup occurred! So wonderful ❤
They've been rationalizing children being murdered at school in mass shootings since I was in Jr high and Columbine happened, and before.
Now they're seemingly okay with child predation. I used to say Trump could eat a kitten on TV and they'd say that kitten had it coming.
Really? Can you say more about that for the folks at home?
Leftists have been rationalizing disarming the entire American population and awarding government a monopoly on force and firearms my entire life. Do you have any concept of how many millennia of shooting deaths it would take to rival the democide committed by tyrannical governments in the 20th Century alone?
The left has rationalized releasing murderers and rapists from prisons, sheltering the ones here illegally, and rationalizing the mass murder of hundreds of millions of unborn babies.
Lectures from people so morally deranged and incapable of honestly debating the actual arguments on offer for not letting tragedies be the pretext to the forced surrender of the firearm rights of every citizen to defend themselves is laughable.
Ben said it right when he observed that “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety”. He could have added that you end up getting neither as well.
Molon Labe, comrade.
@m@mookiewilson4166and yet all of what you said is proven untrue when you look at every other western nation e.g. all European countries, Canada, Australia etc. None of which have tyrannical governments, even though their population doesn’t own guns at all (except hunting rifles for people with permits and the like). You’ve been super by your community into believing that you absolutely NEED to be armed because the enemy or the tyrannical government or the intruder could be at your doorstep at any minute. It’s actually a bit pathetic to go through life that terrified all the time. Just like conservatives were shitting themselves with fear for 8 years during Obama’s presidency because “Obama’s coming to take your guns away”… except he never did!!! 😂😂
Schools just have too many entrances, and teachers need to be armed with guns themselves. Duh
its a cult to love Trump, but its not a cult to hate him as your day job. Amazing.
I’ve always been a never Trumper. The man has been a criminal from way back. Screwed over many contractors that had worked on his hotels,casinos etc! Just nothing but a corrupt criminal!!!
Exactly! Why don't people see this? It's easy to look up!!!!
And I suppose you carry water for...whom? The Clintons?? Biden?? They're all the same. But at least you've "always been a never Trumper." Clearly that means something in your mind.
I was a long time Republican, and in the campaign for president in 2016-17, I didn't like Trump but no other candidate could get air time and watched the news papers constantly showing Donald Trump and he ran with it, Kasich just couldn't overtake the Media and their push of Trump and he got the simpathy vote,or the protest vote because he wasn't going to win .... but he did.
america voted trump in because it is messed up, it isnt messed up because he was voted in lol he won with a majority. you cannot blame him for working within the existing system
@lawrencecrocker4870Elon might have played with the counting machines
Another factor to consider is the misguided notion that the government doesn’t know how to “run things” and that private businesses run things better. Trump represents the false proposition that the US would work better if it was run “like a business”
Well private businessmen may be able to run government better, but first they would need to be good and ethical businessmen. If making money at any cost, including running up huge corporate debts transferring any capital out and then filing for bankruptcy, is not the sign of a good and ethical businessman.
@Slainte-Mhath you basically described a business man! Lmao if you’re looking for ethics and good of the whole country, then you’re thinking of a nonprofit organization.
If government programs failed at the same rate as private businesses, there would be no government at all.
@SunnyDiegoProduction Look up what it takes to get a business degree... I'll give you a hint: literally HALF of the courses are various ethics classes.
@SunnyDiegoProduction Non Profits can be corrupt. Money can be syphoned off or paid to directors instead of being used for the benefit of the entire operation by reducing charges or improving or expanding projects. Charities are supposed to be non-profit, but some are corrupt.
I finally lost my kid to rightwing propaganda. I've lost most of my family for years but i can't even understand them anymore. If fox news became a crater, I wouldn't shed a single tear
It is sad how MAGA and Trump have divided us. You are not alone.
I’m sorry that that happened to you with your child. It’s not your fault.
Trump is what pushed me away from right-wing media.
It is possible to give people a chance without having to agree with their politics.
America would be better off if Fox came to a quick and inglorious end.
"Contempt for those who know better." Amen, Sarah.
A Drudge Report about Trump would be called the Grudge Report.
How can we stop all the insider trading going on in the government when they're the ones who vote on the laws that let them get away with it? It's just beyond corruption! And these people that take oaths are supposed to be punished more severely when committing crimes. They usually get off with a much lighter sentence or a slap on the wrist.
Make it so politicians can't trade stocks and fnanncially profit while holding office. Also limit terms and campaign contributions.
Ooh a discussion between sensible People, how refreshing
What a championship team!
It breaks my brain that there are Americans who think there are 'one or two things Trump got right'!!!! What things?
I wonder about that also.
It is difficult to convince someone of a fact when their paycheck depends on them believing the opposite.
Three people with the same opinion… so daring.
Omg I love Sam and Bulwark together. Ty 🇺🇸
Omg my favourite people Tim, Sarah and Sam 👏👏👏
Funny definition of the word "smart." I would say the definition of "not smart" is "don't see what is in front of your face."
I don't know of a single smart person who likes Trump and the 2016 election campaign was enough of a signal to anybody who spent a few minutes watching the news (or scrolling through their feed). Just remember Sam Harris thinks Trump "deserves" the Nobel for helping release the Israeli hostages and was adjacent to Trump legitimisers.
"High functioning" might be a better term than "smart".
I think trump rides the anger in your heart angle, even smart people see certain things he promised made sense, no open borders, bringing back some manufacturing, etc but he just lied overall and appeals to peoples anger about things, everything is Bidens fault
@littlebrownbird8020 It's this. I have family who... I wouldn't call them smart but they're not what you think of with your stereotypical MAGA Trumper.
No there's an important distinction between wilfull ignorance (what you described) and stupidity
I have been a teacher for 34 years. If this trio were my students, I would consider them amongst those whom education has failed. Their arrogance is their defining quality and that is sad. 13:00
Thanks for giving us serfs an hour instead of the typical 20 mins
Love this crossover!!!
Favorite collab of the year so far. Thanks to everyone involved.
The Bulwark ROCKS!!!
I hope I never get stuck in a hotel room like the one Tim is stuck in.
Yes!! It brings to mind Oscar Wilde's wallpaper quote from a Paris hotel room: "“This wallpaper and I are fighting a duel to the death. Either it goes or I do.”
Sam, Tim and Sarah is a dream come true! Can we PLEASE make this a regular podcast!!!!!
They are so solid
You can catch something like 100 podcasts over on the Bulwark channel every week - many, many of them with Tim or Sarah or both.
I love this team up
Democracy is like a cancer patient. They do not die right away - they die a little bit at a time until it is too late to recover if not dealt with. America is very close to that point.
three of my favorites together.
It’s because they ultimately benefit from the system that’s propping him up. That’s it. It’s not very complicated.
The New Yorker expertly, completely deconstructed Ben Shapiro in an interview recently; I don't think Ben even knew what happened.
"Smart" Ben Shapiro who considers himself a conservative and conservatisms biggest difference from liberals is a belief in "personal responsibility" over blaming "the system"...
Ben, Personal Responsibility, Shapiro said he HAD to vote for Trump because the SYSTEM is two party...
Ben, who believes in blaming persons over blaming the system, HAD to vote for Trumps "no personal responsibility" administration over the democrats BECAUSE THE SYSTEM...
Amazing.
link please
They were voting for a tv personality
Whoaaa crossover of the month!
Top ten greatest Nickelodeon cartoon cross overs
Please please please do more of these ❤
Republicans in the last 10 years think that rules only apply to Democrats. That is the disgusting, unacceptable truth. We can’t allow their political careers to survive. How do we make that happen? Appealing to Republicans is impossible. I guess we have to get disenfranchised voters to show up to the polls in record numbers.
The Bulwark is pure GOP.
How do you know what other people think?
@Lee-hq6tflook at their track record. Every accusation they make of Democrats is something they’ve done themselves. Every time somebody has a legitimate issue, they use whataboutism to try to change the subject. Things they used to roast Biden, Obama, Clinton, etc. for they do now and somehow it’s supposed to be okay.
I may not be literally inside any other person’s head, but for you to dismiss what I believe on that technicality is disingenuous at best and evil at worst.
@nickgagalis4559 both sides are inherently corrupt.
@Lee-hq6tfstop with the attention shifting and false equivalencies. Yes, there are things that some Democrats have done that are wrong and illegal. But to pretend that is anywhere near the same level of outward corruption and disregard for the Constitution and the American People is disgusting and inaccurate.
Everyone guilty of a crime should be punished to the full extent of the law regardless of their position or political affiliation. But the Republican Party hasn’t had the moral high ground in more than a decade.
As long as I live I will find nearly all of this incomprehensible. Please tell me why this felon was not in jail for all of those convictions. Please explain why he was not arrested for treason after January 6. Why has he not been perp-walked for pedophilia? Rape? Tax evasion? Election interference? And that’s before the reelection! What is a citizen to make of the utter fecklessness of those who are supposed to follow and enforce the laws,as well as the intent of the Constitution?
This is an extremely good episode!!!!
All my favorite people in one pod!
JVL?
@d@donaldwilson4451L is my spirit animal ❤
Sam has associations with people in the Epstein files.
@RobertZellers Please continue - what is the point you're making?
@d@donaldwilson4451e’s the same branch of charlatan that spawned Ben Shapiro, Joe Rogan, and Jorden Peterson. He’s part of the “intellectual dark web.” He pals around with Richard Dawkins and Steven Pinker, both of whom believed Epstein was a friend.
Sam Harris has always sucked but he has teflon coating like Trump.
I watched this podcast to see my beloved Sarah and Tim, but will return for Sam Harris. What a great way to be introduced to him.
Sam Harris has associations with Richard Dawkins and Steven Pinker, both of whom are in the Epstein Files.
He's one of our greatest living philosophers. Check out his book on lying, titled Lying, it's a tour de force.
Me too and Me too!
@alarmedgibbon4887 he has associations with people in the Epstein files.
Sam is a Zio shill. Best avoid
Greg Palast-a regular guest on Thom Hartmann's radio show.
4,776,706 voters were wrongly purged from voter rolls according to US Elections Assistance Commission data.
By August of 2024, for the first time since 1946, self-proclaimed “vigilante” voter-fraud hunters challenged the rights of 317,886 voters. The NAACP of Georgia estimates that by Election Day, the challenges exceeded 200,000 in Georgia alone.
No less than 2,121,000 mail-in ballots were disqualified for minor clerical errors (e.g. postage due).
At least 585,000 ballots cast in-precinct were also disqualified.
1,216,000 “provisional” ballots were rejected, not counted.
3.24 million new registrations were rejected or not entered on the rolls in time to vote.
I'm FURIOUS that Marc Elias gave up notwithstanding what Greg uncovered. It's unconscionable.
And not one Democrat could be moved by any of that. Especially Democratic leadership.
Palast does good work but both he and Hartmann ignored the open letter sent by 7 election security professionals advising Harris to demand recounts in some of the swing states.
And what really just boggles my mind, is how I have yet to see ANY Democrat, or even any large progressive youtube channel or podcast point out the 80 bomb threats that targeted mostly areas with high concentrations of registered Democrats, and mostly in swing states. Most of the voting infrastructure targeted temporarily evacuated because of the threats. The FBI stated that 30 of those threats originated from Russia.
Also, I don't think Palast addressed (and I never heard Hartmann mention it once) the many months long operation by a number of groups that were using AI software to make mass challenges to registered Democrats. Just one of those operations called "True the Vote" according to CNN reporting, that by June over 700,000 registrations of Democrats had been challenged, and that was just one of the same operations the GOP was engaged in.
2024 was stolen, yet you can't get a single Democrat in Congress to even question anything about the election. Harris rushed to essentially declare it a free and fair election, and the same for Jeffries. Pathetic, hapless Democrats, yet again who can't fight their way out of a paper bag.
A masterclass of thoughtful common sense. Thank you!
I.Q. and Wisdom are NOT synonymous.
A person can have both, but many have one and not the other. They're two different things like you're basically saying.
I agree. Folks can have one & not the other.
I like to listen to all 3 of these speakers. I’ve always enjoyed listening to Sam Harris. He IS brilliant. I’ve enjoyed listening to him debate on a range of topics. I like Tim & Sarah as well. I don’t always agree with them, but that’s OK.
Great interview!
All I know , following the felon since the 2000 debacle and SCAM with the "trump University" INCIDENT, was an eye opener of this terrible individual and his 'aims' against OUR USA!! Everything that followed was obvious...if one was interested...We yelled and SCREAMED in 2016 when he entered the race.. A DEAR friend of mine said " We have the 'right' to vote for who we want to"...which ended that friendship...She has since apologized and so did I ...How many homes, friends and families have been disrupted. Too many questionable actions have been taken by that/ this regime...LOOK WHERE WE ARE NOW!!! YIKES!! Thank you for a great interview. I am working in a very minor role for the Democrat Party in So Oregon..and we are still surrounded by those who think the felon is wonderful...
A triumvirate of reason
Great convo. ❤
Do we still need to explain to boomers that being Anti-Isreal is not the same as Antisemitism?
Please don’t put all Boomers into the same bucket. Those of us who are Never Trumpers are already frustrated enough without having to endure the stigma.
It doesn't seem to be generational, to me.
Also, more people than we thought just suck.
Awesome. Tim, Sarah, and JVL are the best in the game. Sarah's insights are incredible.
All three of them were great in this discussion
@MoiraPannell-u2h But, oddly they dont question SAM about Epstein, Why he met him?
@simple-eastner LOL, they also don't talk about the genocide in Gaza... the people are not allies. None of them.
Good to see long public podcast.. this helps
Yes. Access to smart conversations shouldn’t be limited when everything free is enshittified
When Ben Shapiro was on Bill Maher, he was asked by a guest how he slept at night, and he shot back: “on a pile of money”
So there you go… that’s the tale of Ben Shapiro.
[oh… Sarah just told the same story 😂. I should’ve kept listening.]
Yes, that what Sarah said, he knows better, but his audience demands 100% allegiance to Trump, and he has no problem pandering to his audience.
I saw that, and the audience member was being a hostile moron so Ben responded that way as to not vindicate their behavior. But you know, reduce him down to one line if it helps create the falsification of reality that comforts you little one.
@stochastic42😂 if he had a reasonable answer to Nance’s question, he would’ve responded with that. He responded with the repugnant one because that’s what he had. At least he was being honest.
@_obdo_ Whatever helps you cope.
@stochastic42 The classic response from someone with nothing of any value or meaning left to say, just like Shapiro's was. How appropriate.
“It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.” ― Mark Twain
dream blunt rotation
Jesus why
Only a minority of people consistently follow a system of moral and ethical principles. The majority of people pick an outcome they want, and make up stories to justify getting that outcome.
Principled consistency is not on their RADAR.
This right here
Excellent point. The “rational” brain is in thrall to primitive drives. Anyone who’s ever been in love, or in battle knows how easily we can slip into irrational behavior.
This is the best question I need an answer to!!! I hope we get it. Thank you 😊
Would love to have seen Hitchens' analysis and reaction to the last few years of geopolitics. His skills and debating mastery are still missed.
👍🏻
He was a self important wind bag who was wrong about so many things. The only thing that made him less than insufferable was his ardent atheism.
He was a hero and an excellent debater,,a ledgend 🎉🎉🎉
Wish there was a way to give more than a thumbs up!!!
Subtribe to Making Sense
Sarah - thank you for saying what you said about Ben Shapiro. As a recovering conservative, what you said is 100% true.
I was anti Trump initially but right of centre. Was a daily Ben listener. He normalized Trump to me. And while I never voted for Trump and eventually realized that Ben is a full grifter, I thought the threat that Trump posed to democracy was greatly exaggerated bc of Ben.
I take responsibility for allowing myself to fall into the rabbit hole too, but I loathe Ben. He is sneaky, self interested, and above all else, like you said, he knows better.
Big Sarah is a "Conservative" who hasn't 'recovered'. She'd vote for Reagan every 4 years if she could. Tell me, how exactly do you think the us got to where it is today?? You begin with Reagan and the Republican party operatives, that's how. Reagan paved the way for a witless demagogue such as The Donald, without Reagan there would be no Trump. Remember Sarah Palin? Good grief !!
@twolegsnotail Don’t disagree with any of this but we’d also be better off with Reagan than MAGA
Better question: how come smart people can’t see what is right with Trump?
All I'm saying is, there is a HUGE difference between being book smart and being generally smart. I've seen countless doctors and lawyers who are obviously capable of reading, but that doesn't mean they are capable of making intelligent judgments.
They aren't book smart either then. That's not intelligence that's Regurgitating knowledge.
Yes, having knowledge is not the same as the ability to reason.
I got news for you, the book smart people are not exactly on Trump's side...
Even though I voted for Mondale and every Democrat since, I have always appreciated the principled stance of true Republicans, and the folks at The Bulwark keep that flame alive. I too carry a pocket Constitution, and I hope people like Tim and Sarah retake their party.
You must be my age, since Mondale was the first presidential candidate I ever voted for. While I appreciate your comment, I have known since I was 16 years old that Republicans lack vision and compassion. Modern-day Republicans are simply Nazis.
Love the bulwark, have them on more often.
I am very happy to have folks like this against Trump and his ethos. At the same time, I find it hard to resolve my bitterness in knowing or believing that they absolutely helped create this monster. Trump did not arise from nothing; he is a culmination of decades (starting with Reagan) of soft - and in some cases hard - peddling to disaffected Americans that to be poor is to be criminal, to worship status and power, and to blame those who don't look like them instead of the rising oligarchs who don't give a f about them for their problems. Mind you, the democrats are far from innocent here; they sold out the working class as well since the 90s.
Why?
Tim talks about the oddness of these clownish people doing evil. The clownish covers for the evil, because no one thinks a clown can be so evil.
@suds1821 you are correct, but it isn't the fault of these folks in particular. The root of it is the repeal of the Fairness Doctrine. The first part of it was hate talk radio (Limbaugh et al) and 30 years later we have what we have now. These people didn't see it coming, they were in Republican Establishment World.
Can’t stand em, Tim is cringe as hell. We agree on F Trump, but he’s a wormy little cockroach
I think you're describing a "bulkhead". A bulwark is a defensive wall, simply more than a barricade and less than a castle. There is a nautical form of bulwark, which is a wall constructed above the main deck. You will probably never see a bulwark at sea on a reasonably modern ship - because they're a bad idea. If you need a bulwark to repel boarders, then you're not where you ought to be. If you need it to repel waves, you're preventing the waves from draining rapidly into the sea and redirecting that water INTO the ship, as sell as making is top-heavy.
Fantastic interview! The guests have a lot of personality and humor which is rare on this podcast.
I am very interested in understanding why so many people support Trump. Even after 10 years I really don't understand.
So, this conversation was helpful.
BUT
From my perspective a very key reason that Trump has power is that he has corporate support. There are billionaires who are soaking money into this guy as an obvious investment.
And Trump is delivering for them at the literal expense of the country's fiscal and overall health.
I was VERY disappointed that this was never mentioned.
Sarah made an off-hand comment which lightly touched on this, but this support is really problematic for me.