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You probably can't believe it, but check, for example, if Poland took part in the Victory Parade in London. Countries that collaborated with the Nazis were invited, but Poland, which fought on every front of World War II, was not. Stalin simply refused to allow Poland to participate in the parade in London :). You will find more such flowers if you search, there are many ahead of you, master. For example, Franca, who collaborated with the Germans and the Vichy government was already the Nazis, had a resistance movement of several thousand partisans, Poland had 400,000 of them. and military structures. After the war, with the tacit consent of our allies, the Russians murdered entire underground structures in the show courts, and no one spoke up.
@@piotrsodel3077 Exactly, they also failed to mention, or rather passed over in silence, the fact that Poles returning to their communist homeland landed in prisons and were accused of collaboration with the "imperialists", and that after the war Poles were "kicked out" of Great Britain, most of our pilots settled in Canada.
@@sirBlackat Yes Robert. But the weapons purchased by the Poles were confiscated and the Poles who wanted to fight the Russian occupation were expelled from England. As for the returnees, some were killed, quietly by the Russians. Maybe the English will read who, for example, Pilecki or General "NIL" was, not to mention the entire command of the Underground Army or General Sikorski, who played such a role as Churchill (Gibraltar). It's a black spot in the history of GB and it's hard to explain it now. A total of 6 million Poles died and the country was destroyed. On Stalin's instructions, Poland was not covered by post-war aid, and war reparations from the Germans are a topic that is still being discussed today. I don't know if you know, but Poland after 1945 paid reparations to US citizens of Jewish origin for the property they left in Poland. She's been paying them for about 15 years.
The Poles need not only a big thank you from the British for the contribution of defending the London, but evidently an apology from the UK government for selling Poland to Stalin in Yalta by Churchill.
It wasn't only selling Poland, it was betrayal, stabbing in the back, turning backs on Poland and leaving Poland for its own and Polish people for their own to slatter for germans and later russians
@@natalias50 tortured and murdered by who? the Russians or their own Polish people, obviously it was both, but rather than condemning those you condemn Britain, a country that took in a quarter of a million Polish people……..
You see the true story of breaking the Enigma code - The Battle to Crack Enigma - The real story of 'The Imitation Game' - WW2 Special. This story was overlooked in the UK for many years. A plaque has been unveiled at Bletchley Park announcing that Rejewski, Różycki and Zygalski were the first to break the Enigma code. The ceremony took place in 2002.
Most respect for Poland from London 😊my grandfather worked with poles in battle of britain. he always like them a lot and even met with them in krakow in poland after 2 ww
Yet Britain took in a quarter of a million Polish people after WW2, Britain paid and equipped the Free Polish fighters to fight THEIR war against the Germans, no other country did as much for Poland than Britain, but again and again I see the outright disparaging remarks to Britain from the Polish people on here, and you don’t realise it but it comes from Starlin who implemented a campaign in Poland after WW2 to make the Soviets look like the great liberators and the West, Especially Britain look like the great deserters, HE DID A FANTASTIC JOB ! didn’t he!!!!
I want to thank you for remembering the Polish pilots in the Battle of Britain. Greetings from Poland. I think it's more important to them than medals. Have a good life brother
Polish pilots not only fly and fight. They teach Brits and later Americans modern air combat tactics. On beginning no one in the britan want to lern, but very fast this change. Polish pilots use much better tactics and formations then Brits. When the English stopped lecturing them and started listening, it turned out that the Poles showed them how many things they were simply doing wrong, because their tactics came from the end of WW1, when Poland was being developed all the time. When the first American pilots came to England, they didn't make that mistake, many of them spent a lot of time with the Poles. The best example is Francis Stanley "Gabby" Gabreski who was of Polish origin residing in the USA. When he got to England, he flew with the Polish 315 Squadron for some time. Later, he always said it was that he became the most successful US Army Air Force ace on the Western Front.
Again people make the mistake of thinking the RAF was using outdated tactics, the whole RAF fighter command defence of the British Isles was based on the Worlds first Radar based integrated air defence system, when the enemy bomber formations were flying across the channel RAF fighter command would scramble RAF squadrons to where and when the enemy were, and how do you get your squadrons to that point of space and time? you send them in tight formations and then the attack on the enemy bombers starts with concentrated RAF fighters, then you have given your defence the best opportunity to destroy as many enemy aircraft as possible, after the Battle of Britain when the RAF went onto the offensive the RAF used German finger four fighter tactics, not Polish tactics!
@@hitime2405 What you describe is the strategic level and it was well developed. What was outdated was the tactical level - the formations in which they flew, the ways of observing the airspace, the communication between the pilots. The British flew in a formation with a lone pilot guarding the rear, performing the S maneuver. It turned out that with the speed of the fighters of the time, he usually did not have time to notice and warn his colleagues, which ended with the German fighters falling on the surprised British. Poles (and Germans too) flew in loose formations of pairs, mutually insuring each other. This gave them early warning and the ability to field an opponent for their teammates. The difference between the Poles and the Germans was in the type of formation, the Germans flew in the "stairs", the Poles in the "crane". The Poles also taught the English how to search the space with their eyes to spot the enemy faster - something they were famous for. How the pair of machines work together to keep an eye on each other - something Kent recalls in his memoirs - every time the German tried to attack him, he had the Pole on his tail. It was not a coincidence, this is how Poles were trained at the "School of Eaglets" in Dęblin. What seems normal today when we watch "Top Gun" was in large part created there. Poland had one of the most modern pilot training systems in the interwar period. Poles were the first to introduce the concept of air combat training with an instructor. Polish training planes were the first to receive photoguns to be able to analyze exercises. They also had real weapons for training. During this period, no one else practiced combat at the pilot training stage, only in squadrons. Thus all Polish pilots who originated from this school had much more practice before they started to fight. And this translated into new tactical ideas.
@@mikolajgrotowski good information and yes you are correct but I as you know was referring to the defence doctrine of the RAF for the British Isles, and of course during the Battle for France what you described was exactly what happened, no points for the RAF not realising that the home defence tactics would not work over France, and as for cameras on fighter aircraft, there is a photo of a German Albatros DIII taken from the gun camera fitted to the SPAD XII of Guynemer, he was obviously well ahead of his time, but well done to the Polish Airforce, and I must point out that the Victory parade was in 1946 and the new Labour government, a virtual communist party who sing “ we will keep the red flag flying here” didn’t want to upset the Soviets so they didn’t invite the Polish pilots to it, but there was outrage in Britain and following protests from Winston Churchill and the RAF the government then sent 25 investigations to the Polish pilots who quite rightly refused the invitations, not the best of moments for the Labour government.
@@mikolajgrotowski oh and the SPAD XII was the cannon armed version of the SPAD VII, it had a cannon firing through the propeller like the Messerschmitt 109 and Bell Air-cobra.
@@hitime2405 Yes, camera guns were there before, but as you wrote, they were on combat machines, as a way of confirming shootdowns. What was new for the Poles was mounting them on a two-seat school machine as a learning tool. Pilots still in flight school could fight aerial combat, what's more, they could do it with an instructor in the second cockpit. This allowed for much earlier and more advanced air combat training than when training began only after switching to the target combat machine.
What both France and Britain failed to realize is that Poland has had a very strong cultural and institutional heritage of aviation. The end result was that while they flew outdated equipment, the Poles were the best trained and most experienced pilots on the allied side at the beginning of the war.
We were allied and helped to saved british and french asses and to avenge our country Poland and for the thank You our allies turned their backs on Poland and stabbed Poland in the back in Yalta and all those allies to Poland betrayed us
@@hitime2405 France was making problems for all Polish soldiers and Britain won against germans thanks to Polish Soldiers and british raf had better results with Polish Pilots, they didn't want to give a chance but they did and it was worth it but on the end british raf and people of Britain made sacrifice goats from Polish soldiers and blamed them for everything even if all of this mess was because of germans
@@NataliaCh93 well then let’s look at your claim, RAF had better result with Polish pilots than with British pilots, Germany lost 1.700 aircraft in the Battle of Britain, the two Polish squadrons shot down 207, but of course 303 squadron shot down more German aircraft than any other RAF unit, but the highest scoring pilot was Czech and it had a Canadian Squadron leader who also shot down a number of its kills, but let’s not differentiate here, when 303 entered the battle the German bomber crews were demoralised and the Luftwaffe tactics had been seriously damaged by the German fighters being ordered to stay with the bombers and the Worlds first Radar based integrated air defence system was now expert in its job of directing RAF fighters to exactly where the enemy bomber formations were in time and space, making it possible for determined fighter pilots to be successful, however I will say that the Polish pilots were excellent and very brave and they helped to win the Battle of Britain but they didn’t win it, and we are grateful for what the Polish pilots did , but it wasn’t the case that they won the battle for us as I continually hear from Polish people.
@@NataliaCh93 British 603 Squadron had the highest CONFIRMED KILLS in the Battle of Britain, at 57. Polish 303 Squadron over claimed it's kills nearly three times over. More to the point nearly all over British 603's kills were Bf109 fighters, while Polish 303 mostly shot down slower moving bombers such as He111s and Do17s. The Poles helped of course but 80% of the pilots, 80% of the kills and 100% of the planes were British. The Poles forget the Czechs, Canadians, New Zealanders, Belgians, Australians, South Africans etc.
You can find out much more about The Kosciuszko Squadron, as well as the fascinating beginnings of Polish aviation from a book 'A Question of Honor' by Lynne Olson and Stanley Cloud. It was also translated into Polish and the title is "Sprawa honoru".
Laura Walis... The Poles defeated the Turks near Vienna, saving Europe from the flood of Islam. Poles defeated Red Russia saving Europe from Lenin's Bolshevik revolution. Poles in the Second World War fought on all fronts gloriously enrolling in history ...
In 1968 I was a J/T engine fitter on 115 Sqn at Watton flying Vickers Varsities on flight checking duties. We had a SWO who had pilot's wings and could only speak a version of English. He was a nice guy (unlike most SWOs) and had an Irish corporal who would translate for him in a way. On the squadron we had a pair of Polish master pilots who always flew together and they were very good pilots. I liked them very much and always tried to give them the best service I could. I liked all the Polish people I met.
Many years ago I read a story about Polish fighter pilot in the RAF. Because of their country's treatment by the Nazis they didn't have the same etiquette towards their opponents that British pilots had and this brought them into conflict with senior officers, but their drive made them invaluable in the fight to protect the skies over Britain.
That attitude has served Poles very well. We don't have the time for "gentlemanly conduct" or "rules of the game". We're more interested in getting the job done in the most effective way. This is probably why we can be considered brusque. There are worse things in life
"They (Polish RAF) were fighting a different war (than we)." - RAF Pilot, commenting on Polish RAF fearlessness, aggressiveness and decisiveness in engaging the Luftwaffe. ... Poland deserved and earned a far better outcome than they received, that being political abandonment and betrayal by the Allies. That said, I followed and enjoyed their courageous breakaway from the USSR. Cheers and salutes from the USA.
Such a pity YOU weren't there personally on the front line in central Europe in summer 1945 eager to sacrifice YOUR life in the effort to push the "red steamroller" back to its pre-1939 borders, instead of sitting safely behind your keyboard 80 years later whinging like a bitch that millions of OTHER people didn't sacrifice THEIR lives in summer 1945. Ever heard of "virtue signalling"? Why not get yourself a gun and go to Ukraine, they're STILL looking for more cannon fodder today. Oops I was forgetting the US likes "proxies" to do the fighting & dying while using US weapons.
7:15 Frantisek was not formally a Pole, but to repeated props for moving from the 303 to the Czechoslovak squadrons, he always replied to the Czech authorities that it was impossible because he was Polish. :D
Hi Rob , it's me again. In the last comment I wrote about the way British treated Polish aftermath WW II. I, on the other hand wasn't aware of missing knowledge about this facts in Britain. I visited Blackpool some time ago, there is a mural on one of the pubs depicting a fighterplane with polish markings. It refers to nearby Northolt, where polish fighters were stationed after the Battle of Britain. Nobody in the pub was able to tell me something about the mural or the Poles.... Then I thought, this is just a minority of people. Now I am shocked that this is regarding the majority of Brits. To be honest I appreciate your effort in publishing reaction vids about topics regarding Poland and Polish. It is quite different to my experience then, when I worked in Nottingham.
I am British and my main interest is the air war in WW1 and WW2, I can tell you your observation that British people don’t care about any history is spot on, no matter what part of history you mention they are not interested, and I would say that is true of 90% of them.
Transferring from one type of plane to another isn't as easy as people might think, so many different ways of doing the same thing. Performance, rate of climb and conflicting controls. Plus the biggest problem, language. You've got to hand it to them. (I have a pilot's licence.)
You see ..... I'm now 65 and as my wife use to say have memory like elephant. I remember just mid of 70-ties short note in one of polish newspapers, It was something like: "PPR (Polish People Republic - that was the name of Poland under comunist rulles) paid last war debts to the Kingom of England". Yes we as a country had to pay for polish soldiers COULD fight in England we paid EVERYTHING uniforms, food, equipment, sallaries, amo, fuel etc. To the last penny took ca 30 years to pay off England. Interesting?
@@agnieszkazuk Wiesz ja pamiętam ten szok. "Polska spłaciła długi za to, że mogliśmy umierać w Tobruku, pod Monte Cassino i w Falaise" Zastanawiałem się czemu PRL spłacał "długi rządu londyńskiego". Tu chyba chodziło o legitymizację PRL, przejmujemy WSZYSTKO włacznie z długami. btw według mnie Anglicy byli w miarę .... rozsądni, przyzwoici (?). Nie jest prawdą, jakoby nie zaprosili nas na paradę zwycięstwa w 1945, to była decyzja polskiego rządu w Londynie. Nie jest prawdą, że nas sprzedali w Jałcie, Churchill był stanowczo przeciwny, przeważyła głupota Roosvelta. Tego jest dużo i jest to skomplikowane. Osobiście dosyć lubię Anglików, a pracowałem u nich no ... ładne parę lat i trochę ich znam.
W końcu ktoś mówi coś co ma sens. Ja mieszkałem w UK prawie 20 lat, poznałem trochę ludzi, moja żona jest Brytyjką. Masz we wszyskim rację, w tym komentarzu i w drugim też. Powiem więcej, my polacy zachwujemy się tak jakby Anglicy zaprosili nas aby walczyć o Anglię. Nie będę się tutaj rozpisywał, sprawa jest bardzo skompikowana, aby poznać co się stało, trzeba zawsze poznać dwie strony. Łatwo nam jakoś przychodzi pokazywanie palcem kto jest winny, kto sprzedał itd. Fakt jest taki że Anglicy nie są świeci, my też nie jesteśmy.
I’m honoured to live in Newark ( Nottinghamshire), where most of the Polish 303 squadron pilots are graved. But what it’s a shame to put in a fact, that not so many of a “locals” are aware of what they have done for all of them !?!?😞
Nonsense. A lot od young people across Europe are totally ignorant of the sacrifices made during WW2 because of the globalist directed "ejukashun sistims" of the west nowadays. Unfortunately any yong person who shows an interest in 20th century European history has more chance of learning about it from youtube that their schools.
Rob, thanks for that.. You might consider researching and commenting the fate of gen. Maczek and Sosabowski... Somebody here mentioned the Enigma story.. And an ugly picture in a British movie about it... Finally, sth worth reflecting, and commenting on.. Poland, which was heavily destroyed during the IIWW, had to pay Great Britain for the equipment we used to defend the Kingdom... what about a bitter taste of this?
Hi. it's great that you explain such things about Poland and Poles both from over 70 years ago and now. I hope that many Brits (as well as other English speakers) will change their minds about us, especially young people, because from my own experience I know that they do not know about various facts related to Poland and Poles. What some people think that we are at the same stage of civilization as some tribes in Africa living somewhere deep in the bush😄Well done Rob👍 Regards
There's an old lady character in an Agatha Christie novel, set just after the war, who says to Hercule Poirot "That's what we fought the war for, wasn't it? So all you foreigners could go home."
A statement of fact... though thats not how it turned out with the UK passing the 1947 UK Polish Resettlement Act that gave full UK citizenship and residency rights to over 250,000 Polish ex service personnel and their families after the betrayal of Poland by the Soviets post WW2. We were the FIRST western power to pass such legislation, followed by the French in 1948 with the US dragging their heels as usual and doing likewise in 1949. We're good aren't we?
Recommend book written by couple of American war reporters : Lynne Olson & Stanley Cloud "For your freedom and ours". The book has been written based on London archives when they were opened in 2000. Highly recommend ! ! !
02:20 - not exactly true though. Technology-wise Poland had several good modern planes or its built prototypes like: PZL.38 „Wilk” PZL.46 „Sum” PZL.50 „Jastrząb” PZL.23 Karaś PZL.43 Czajka PZL.37b Łoś Or some that were still in project phases like fighter planes PZL.56 Kania or PZL-62. Similar with tanks where polish 7-TP and its improved version 10-TP were quite comparable to what Germany had at the start of the war. It was rather the industrial side that Poland was struggling with as production of these needed time so despite having modern equpment, it was low in numbers. And after regaining its independence, Poland existed only for only 21 years, with economy devastated by WW I eastern front combat, its industry plundered by retreating russians and germans. And even that was interrupted by Bolshevik invasion repelled at the Battle of Warsaw so hardly a time to rebuild country in peace. When WW II started, Poland was in the middle of army modernisation that was scheduled to finish by 1941 so once again, what was lacking was time.
jeszcze jakby ten angielski chleb był taki super.... a szkoda że mu Polak nie odpowiedział czegoś w stylu - pojadł byś trochę zgniłych kartofli w nazistowskim obozie to byś inaczej śpiewał.
The Czech Frantisek probably had more than 17 kills, but he didn't flaunt it and had no evidence of kills. He was allowed to detach from the squadrons and hunted the RETURNING Germans without fuel and without ammunition. The British made a very nice movie "Bloody Foreigners" years ago. :) A bit of humor and some knowledge about the conflict.
As an interesting fact, I would like to mention that at the beginning of the war, Poles evacuated gold from the national treasury in Poland and deposited it in England. In gratitude for the sacrifice of Polish pilots, the British, in appreciation, confiscated a significant portion of the gold, as they claimed that "the Poles were using ammunition."
So what? Do you stupidly expect OTHER PEOPLE (i.e the UK taxpayer) to pay for the Polish part of the war effort to remove nazism from POLISH SOIL? When YOU go out for a night out, do you expect your friends to pay for your food and drinks? Seeing as you like "fun facts" here are a few more for you to enjoy.... By 1942 the British empire had handed ALL 1,400 TONS of its gold reserve over to the US government to pay for the arms and equipment it was using to continue the fight against the conquerors of YOUR country. Once the gold had been spent, we then handed over ALL of our own cutting edge British scientific research to the US as well as global basing rights on empire territory to the US armed forces, and then when all of that had been accounted for, we ran the British part of the war effort and indeed our whole country on US Loans, which we only finished paying back in 2006. As a result of this unforeseen ruinous expenditure we could no longer afford to maintain our own empire, which hastened its final collapse. By the end of WW2 Great Britain had been transformed from the world's richest nation in 1900 to the world's largest debtor in 1945. What you also will have utterly no awareness of is that the majority of Polish war debt was written off by the west as it was clear that there was no way you were ever going to be able to pay it back. And then clueless commenters like yourself complain about having to pay a pittance for YOUR part in freeing YOUR country from nazi death camps & tyranny. You should have let us know in 1939 that you were going to beat the nazis alone, then we could have left you to it, and saved ourselves all our gold reserve, 460,000 British lives and our empire.
Oninomura Read this: WINSTON S CHURCHILL. THE SECOND WORLD WAR. CASSELL & CO LTD VOLUME VI TRIUMPH AND TRAGEDY 1954. P563 ''The burden lay on British shoulders. When their homeland had been overrun and they had been driven from France many Poles had sheltered upon our shores. There was no worth-while property belonging to the Polish Government in London. I said I believed there was about £20,000,000 in gold in London and Canada. This had been frozen by us, since it was an asset of the Central Bank of Poland. Unfreezing and moving it to a Central Polish Bank must follow the normal channels for such transfers. It was not the property of the Polish Government in London and they had no power to draw upon it. There was of course the Polish Embassy in London, which was open and available for a Polish Ambassador as soon as the new Polish Government cared to send one-and the sooner the better. In view of this one might well ask how the Polish Government had been financed during its five and a half years in the United Kingdom. The answer was that it had been supported by the British Government; we had paid the Poles about £120,000,000 to finance their Army and diplomatic service, and to enable them to look after Poles who had sought refuge on our shores from the German scourge. When we had disavowed the Polish Government in London and recognised the new Provisional Polish Government it was arranged that three months' salary should be paid to all employees and that they should then be dismissed. It would have been improper to have dismissed them without this payment, and the expense had fallen upon Great Britain.'
@@RobReacts1 Ale mordy nie otworzył co Brytyjczycy dali ich Polskim Bohaterom po wojnie , zostawili w trakcie wojny a Kapral Wojtek skończył w ZOO a generał Maczek skończył jako barman
@@rademenes1754 generał Maczek skończył tak, jak dziesiątki/setki tysięcy pozostałych żołnierzy brytyjskich i nie tylko po zakończeniu wojny, jak armia już nie była potrzebna. Każdy jest dorosly i idzie w swoja stronę. Poza tym gen. Maczek służył w POLSKIM wojsku, nie w brytyjskim. Brytyjczycy nie mieli żadnych prawnych zobowiązań wobec niego.
@@xMastJedi Mieli zobowiązania wobec Polski, o których zapomnieli w 1939 i w 1945 Jeśli by dopełnili tych zobowiązań, to gen. Maczek nie znalazłby się w tej sytuacji Jeśli dobrze pamiętam rząd jednego z państw (czy jakieś miasto, nie pamiętam które) chciał płacić Maczkowi emeryturę za uwolnienie spod okupacji niemieckiej "generał Maczek skończył tak, jak dziesiątki/setki tysięcy pozostałych żołnierzy brytyjskich i nie tylko po zakończeniu wojny, jak armia już nie była potrzebna" Jest różnica między generałem co odniósł wiele sukcesów, a szeregowcem Generał ma kwalifikacje, które mogłyby być lepiej wykorzystane niż w barze
@@123pik1 Gen. Maczek był żołnierzem wojsk POLSKIEGO. Nie wydaje mi się, żeby jakiakolwiek armia jakiegokolwiek innego państwa przyjmowała w szeregi oficerów wysokiej rangi innej armii. Problemem były relacje państwowe, a nie personalnie Wielka Brytania - gen. Maczek. Nawet jak zaciągniesz się do legii cudzoziemskiej to startujesz od stopnia szeregowego. Choćbyś nie wiem kim był w poprzednim życiu. A to miasto to bodajże w Holandii.
I hope that with the support of Poles and Czechs in the battle of Britain, Britain has done its history lesson forever on the issue of 'not our war'. back in 1938, Neville Chamberlain spoke of Czechoslovakia as a distant country about which they know little in order to justify the Munich agreement. one of the most shameful statements in British history
Not just Poles and Czechs. New Zealanders, Australians, Canadians, South Africans, Belgians etc. However, 80% of the pilots and 100% of the planes were British.
Poland paid unbelievable high price for WW2 and they lost position for decades in the strongest league in Europe. Germany should pay compensation for 6m people.
@@hitime2405 Not only lifes of Poles but also economy (I mean lifes of people are more important but very big part of Polish economy was devastated, almost all Warsaw was devastated)
By getting involved in world war 2 Britain lost position in the world, not just Europe and we only recently paid off our war debts. We also lost many lives and our cities were in ruins too after the blitz. And all because we entered a war to support Poland when they were invaded. So we helped each other. It wasn't all one way. Poland was treated terribly after the war, but that wasn't Britain's fault. Churchill was appalled by Poland coming under soviet influence, but it was clear post war Britain was now a bit player in a new world controlled by the U.S.A. and the soviet union.
Poland had to unite after 1918. The lands of Poland were in the hands of three invaders for over 123 years. The final borders of the country were fixed in 1922. A large part of the country was under Russian rule. These areas were very lagging behind in development. Large projects were implemented, such as the Central Industrial District, the port in Gdynia was built, etc. A lot of modern armament projects were created. Unfortunately, there was not enough money and time. An example was the 'Łoś' bomber aircraft. It was the most modern bomber in Europe. Only 96 were produced until the war. These planes didn't have proper support in fighter planes which had obsolete design etc. The production of this aircraft at that time was a mistake. It was necessary to build defensive aviation, i.e. fighter and attack aircraft.
@@jannowak2352 od mówienia po arabsku ratować ich nie będziemy, nie możemy w kółko być obrońcami dla całej Europy. Musimy zająć się swoim ciężko wywalczonym krajem, rozwijać go i chronić.
4:01 well the training and skill, the fighter skills mostly transferred over; they had much more flight hours and rigorous training, and often quite a bit of combat experience (the Pursuit Wing had a positive win/loss ratio) hurricanes were battle of britain, spitfires later
The whole thing looks worse than you think. At the time when Poles were fighting for the freedom of England and Europe, Stalin Churchill and Russevelt agreed at the first Tehran and then Yalta conferences that Poland would be occupied by Russia. Check out the topic of the Gibraltar disaster to this day it is suspected that the head of the Polish government was murdered by the English. What's more, Poles after 1945 wanted to continue fighting for freedom with Russia, but as agreed, they were dispersed and thrown out by the allies. Check out the story of General Maczek, who together with the "black devils" liberated half of Europe and ended up as a bartender in a pub. These are the sad experiences of Poles when you look at the fact that "enigma" was a gift from Poles to the Agnliks. Check that too.
“Liberated half of Europe “ what on his bicycle? trying to round up British armoured cars to help, you are definitely overstating things here, tell me if it wasn’t for Britain paying and equipping these Free Polish soldiers with modern weapons and equipment what would they have done?
And your Polish enigma bollocks, Britain bought a commercial Enigma machine in 1927! What the Polish gave Britain and France was obviously so useless that the Germans kicked our arses out of Europe and wiped the floor with the French, but in 1941 when the Royal Navy captured the Enigma from U-110 with it’s crucial fourth wheel and the code books Britain really began the taking apart the Third Rich, and passing the information on to the USA and Russia, that’s where the Enigma breakthrough occurred!!!!
The “head of the Polish government is suspected of being murdered by the English “ get a grip of yourself! The only people who kill Polish people were Germans and Russian!!! Learn to respect the truth and not the Stalin woven lies!!!!!!
@@hitime2405 Did you even read what Rejewski done? Have you any idea that British cryptographers didn't undertand the work that was done by Polishmen - Rejewski wrote his diary and what he thought of Alan Turing at his visit in France's secret base in 1940, his ignorancy of what phenomenom they done. After escaping from France Rejewski and Zygalski (Różycki died in journey) arrived in front of Bletchley Park...to be rejected! Rejewski broke sometimes manually code in meantime (because he had nothing to do, not allowed to work with british cryptographers) and discovered that they do not even knew how Zygalski's sheets even works - so the British didn't study polish cryptographers' work to understand it even!
@@PolskiModziarz and what you say proves anything that the Polish did with Enigma was not used by Britain, but like I said in May 1941 the Royal Navy captured U-110 with the boarding party retrieving the Enigma machine with its all important fourth wheel and code books, we no longer needed to crack the codes because we now had the code book! and after that we knew everything the Germans were doing, and Turin’s work was to develop a computer to cope with the volume of information coming from the unwitting Germans for the next four years !!!!
the worst part is that a few years later this war would probably have turned out very differently. The Germans attacked at the time when Polish great designers and inventors began to design very modern machines, such as PZL series fighters or tank projects. But at least these designs, or parts of them, fought the Germans in RAF service thanks to evacuating the engineers
Note that after Battle of Britain one of the polish pilots move to Pakistan with 16 Hawker Typhoons to found air force in this country. He become general and national hero. His name was Władysław Turowicz.
@@swetoniuszkorda5737 Dużo było bohaterów w naszym kraju, ale też trzeba być Polakiem aby się dowalić do wszystkiego. Taka narodowa przywara, dowalić się muszę bo inaczej się uduszę.
Get this: 2,936 Fighter Command pilots took part in the Battle of Britain, 145 (4.9% of that 2,936) were Polish. They took part in the second half of the battle. A useful addition to the pilot numbers, but in statistical terms, they had no decisive role in the battle. The Poles were not written out of the history of the battle. The 1969 feature film, made with government co-operation, devoted an entire storyline to Polish pilots, the Battle of Britain memorials in London (Victoria Embankment), and in Kent (Capel-le-Ferne) show the names of ALL of the pilots involved. The Polish Air Force Memorial at Ruislip is so prominent that it has actually lent its name to the A40 road junction where it is located. The Poles were invited to take part in the 1946 Victory Parade in London, but declined to take part in that event. All Polish exiles in Britain (Including those pilots) were housed, clothed, and fed at a net cost to Britain of £100 million. All Polish exiles in Britain were allowed to settle in the United Kingdom under the terms of the Polish Resettlement Act 1947.
In the end, the Polish nation paid for the planes that Polish pilots destroyed during the Battle of Britain - when the British gave Poland some of the Polish gold reserves deposited in England, which the Poles managed to take out of Poland at the beginning of the war and save, they were reduced by the amount due for those destroyed planes.
And? Do you stupdily thin that the UK taxpayer should have paid for the Polish contribution to the British effort to topple the nazi tyranny that was raping Poland? Guess what? The UK had to repay TENS OF BILLIONS of pounds to the US for the supplies they provided for us during WW2. We only finished paying off that debt in 2006. The UK was BANKRUPTED by their WW2 efforts to release Europe from nazi domination. Show some respect. Seems that modern day Poles are unfamiliar with the concept of "paying for things", instead believing that others equally desperate should pay for them.
Hi. I have an idea for a new episode... the journey of Polish gold before the invasion of Germany and the Soviets. What happened to this gold and how the English robbed part of the gold ... counting on the costs they incurred for the Polish army. Forgetting that they had betrayed their comrade in battle. they betrayed
If you want a sad really story about the biggest heros of Poland, then you have to watch movies about Generał "NIL" (Emil Fieldorf) , and Rotmistrz Pilecki. I hope you will find something English, but I strongly recommend the full movies about them.
My great grandfather was a polish commander during wwII and theres an amazing story of him defending the city of Cowes in England from a nazi attack, to this day a square in the town is named after him.
I don't remember where I've heard it but in some english documentary an officer or someone of higher military standing supposedly said this about the polish pilots (paraphrasing of course): "When they started shooting the german aircrafts, they weren't trying to destroy the planes. They wanted to kill the pilot inside." Translation: They did everything they could to kill the Nazis, any semblance of safety be damned.
My grand, grand uncle was a founder and first commander of 303. Zdzisław Krasnodębski alas ‘King’. Thank you for sharing. Btw, I live In Northolt now:)
If you ever come to the UK, In the local museum in Southport Merseyside, there is an entire gallery devoted to 303 squadron, which was stationed at the nearby RAF Woodvale airfield and did their part in defending the port of Liverpool from the luftwaffe. There is a LOT of memorabilia in the museum.... some of which are Zdzisław's flight log and other personal effects that were left to the museum by a member of his family.
@@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684 I live in UK since 2004…and my best friend is living in Melling, small place near Merseyside! I didn’t know that, wow, can’t believe no one told me….Next time I will visit her have to go there! Thank you for sharing.
1:50 this in not particularly correct - P-11 and PZL.37 Łoś showed Here in video was at this time pretty modern Planes. Sure P-11 was bit older but Łoś was newer really good, one of the most advanced planes at this time - but, they have produced only 92 before the war begun. Germany lost almost 250 planes over Poland. Poland losses was 350 planes - most of them on the ground.
"Fighter pilots in exile fly over foreign land Let their story be heard, tell of 303rd Fighter pilots from Poland in the battle of Britain Guarding the skies of the isle"
According to Polish historians examining luftwaffe records polish pilots kills in the b of b were about 58 , 38.8 in 303 squadron and 14 in 302 squadron, let's say 5.2 by pilots mixed in with other squadrons, mostly slow defenceless light bombers and stukas etc. And yet just the top 8 scorers out of the 146 odd polish pilots who saw at least one combat sortie claim to have shot down 218. That's about 58 out of 1883 luftwaffe losses and 10 Italian losses. Raf operations were global, this was the only show in town for the Polish. In France just 10% of polish pilots saw any action, that's at having at least one sortie. The residue of polish experienced veterans all put into 2 squadrons, average age 27 and average experience 6 years. The raf squadrons were packed with new pilots the raf having seen far more combat over a far longer period than the Polish and suffered 500 odd fighter pilot losses up to the b of b. The best pilot by far in the battle was eric lock, aged just 21 in his first year of flying with 20.5 kills, 17 of which were bf109's. Spin, bs, distortion, and telling an incomplete narrative to big themselves up.
@@chopstick266 I'm like you chopstick. I have NO hatred for the Polish people, and actually admire their resolve & national pride, something we Brits could do with a lesson in. But I DO take huge offense at the continual stream of insults and slurs against the UK, together with the demeaning of British efforts, and the inflation of those of other nations, by Polish commenters and our own left wing arseholes Keep up the good work.
I,m a pilot and the reverse control on the throttle would be difficult because your reflexes may give an incorrect command. The instruments on the spitfire look fairly standard and simple. My ex wife's uncle flew a spitfire in the battle of Britain he said there was very little food with the rationing. The movie 'The Battle of Britain "I remember the Poles got into trouble for jabbering on in their own lingo on ;the radio
My father came from Poland as a Air navigator in the RAF. He was on a Air navigation course with Paul Kuflik, Kazimierz Pakula in the hills at Eastbourne summer 1942. I'm lucky my father never returned to Poland.
It was well known that many Poles who returned to Poland after WW2 were killed not just by a cowed government but also by other Poles. They were scornful that the returners came back when they already had an escape from the hardships imposed by the Russians. I remember my parents sending packages of clothes and food to relatives in Poland. Coffee, shampoo were considered luxuries.
Did you know that I am suing over Germany. No Polish soldier was invited to the Victory Parade in London. Fearing Stalin's reaction. In addition to pilots, there were also tankers, sailors on Polish destroyers and submarines, paratroopers, infantry, for example, at Fales and Monte Casino.
there is lots of information printed over the years that enables someone to find out about polish units within the british and commonwealth forces during ww2. documented and recorded, there was no hiding the information, most museums will have some information with a little looking for it. libraries have ww2 histories with lots of accounts of polish plus other nations contribution to defeating the axis forces. none were deliberately forgotten it was just a case of who's books you cared to read. historians tried hard to include as many nations acts as possible in overcoming the armies of the axis alliance. it is left upon the individual to seek out what they require to remember the who, when and where. Great Britain is not guilty of trying deliberately to eradicate others efforts to destroy what was our then common enemy. the opposite is true the UK has taken great care in informing generations since the wars end as to who fought in ww2 over the years.
@@stevechurch4728 Yes, just like with celebrating Alan Turing's work but not mentioning Rejewski's work when talking about the breaking of Enigma Code.
@@PolskiModziarz ahhh the media is another matter, the media is biased, especially the newspapers..... "fog in channel, europe cut off". media is a joke.
Rob a huge thumbs up for you from Poland for this video and for others Thanks to people like you Great Britain will remember that Poles saved you from Germany like we did`nt manage to save ourselfes. We Poles always help others like in WW 2 and now in Ukrain but we most the time pay a price for it, sadly now it will be the same...
Hey, cool material, but did you know that on June 8, 1946, a year after the end of World War II, a great parade of winners passed through the streets of London. There were no Poles in the column, which stretched several kilometers. Only the soldiers of 303 Squadron received an invitation to the parade from the British, and that too shortly before the parade. No other Poles from other units taking an equally active part in the defense of the UK were invited.
Sorry Tomas but that is completely wrong. You do realise that your country was subjected to 45 years of communist propaganda after WW2? With regard to the non-appearance of Polish forces during the "1946 Victory parade" the problem lay SQUARELY with POLAND and NOT with the United Kingdom. The first invites sent out by the UK Labour Govt of Clement Attlee to ALL the nations who had fought for the Allied cause during WW2 (INCLUDING Poland, USSR & Yugoslavia) were sent out weeks in advance of the parade. The Polish invite in particular was quite understandably delivered to the Polish "Provisional Government of National Unity" ( the "TRJN" or Tymczasowy Rząd Jedności Narodowej) based in Warsaw, which was the OFFICIAL Polish govt as recognised by the international community in the form of the "United Nations", and NOT just by Britain alone. The TRJN was the same govt that it was intended the London based Polish nationalist Govt in exile would become an intrinsic part of, as agreed to by ALL sides at the Yalta conference in Feb 1945.... (although the soviets subsequently saw to it that this never actually happened). This invite sent directly to Warsaw immediately raised a storm of protest from the Polish nationalist govt in exile based in London who, and with some justification, felt they had been sidelined in this matter, their anger was supported by many British MPs, senior ranks within the UK armed forces & members of the British public. With only days left before the parade was due to take place, and with no reply or even acknowledgement of the British invite from the OFFICIAL Polish TRJN govt in Warsaw, the British govt then hurriedly & belatedly sent out a SECOND INVITE to the Polish Govt in Exile in London, (as well as directly to many individual Polish service personnel), but as one united group they CHOSE to shun the invites to register their anger and disgust at being treated as "second fiddle" to the Warsaw govt. And the final Ignominy? The Warsaw TRJN govt never did answer or even acknowledge the original invite from the UK (as neither did the USSR or Yugoslavia) and never attended the parade either. As you can see the Polish "non appearance" was solely down to a poisonous bitter mix of political hatred (from Warsaw) and hubris (from the London Poles), and NOTHING to do with this imaginary "Poles weren't invited to the parade" nonsense. As I've described above the Polish nation was actually the ONLY allied nation to receive TWO invites to the parade. Now please go and burn the communist schoolbooks your country was forced to "learn" from between 1945 and 1990.
Not recognising Polish soldiers fighting across the Europe as one of key factors to defeat Nazis is diplomatically speaking "understatement". We fought for English sky, despite treating our pilots as morons at first. As other example, Lieutenant General Stanisław Maczek was a Polish tank commander of World War II, whose division was instrumental in the Allied liberation of France, closing the Falaise pocket, resulting in the destruction of 14 German Wehrmacht and SS divisions. Germans called us "Black devils". To many examples to cite. Despite of our efforts, we were sold to the soviets to appease Stalin in Yalta. As a result, 20 000 Polish soldiers from the underground army were captured and executed secretly(1945-1947), when the soviets took control, because they didin't agree with soviet rulez. Please do not forget our officers, professors, and teachers slathered in Katyń (the most famous) - 250.000, after ruzzians attacked us "from behind" on 17th September 1939, as the result of Ribbentrop -Molotov non-aggression pact. That is one of the reasons we hate ruzzian rulez and feel so much for Ukraine, pointlesly attacked to be wiped of the map by putler. You are doing great informative job!🤘 U can watch this (especially if you are into compyter games): ruclips.net/video/Q88AkN1hNYM/видео.html
@@123pik1 There was an air war and sea war going on from September 1939. First British deaths of WW2 were on the night of September 3rd/4th 1939 when the RAF carried out bombing raids on targets in Germany. If Britain didn't declare war on Nazi Germany the Third Reich would still be controlling Poland today. You're welcome.
Complete bollocks. Polish pilots made a small but valued contribution towards the defence of the refuge they been given from nazism after having run from Poland to France and then from France to the UK. It's why the Poles called the British Isles the "island of last hope". Soviets renege on their agreement signed at Yalta in 1945 and steal Poland. Then teach Polish school children (and thick headed western dupes) from 1945 to 1990 that it was the "west" who betrayed them. If it wasn't for the UK then Swastikas would STILL be flying over the capitals of Europe today.
If you want to know more why and how Poles fought in the Battle of Britain, I recommend two films. Bloody Foreigners: Untold Battle of Britain and the second Did a Few Reckless Pilots Save the World? | "303" The Documentary
That's fine if all you want to watch is devious left wing propaganda (the first documentary) & misinformed Polish patriotism (the second one). The Poles who fought in the battle of Britain did so because Britain was the ONLY country in the world then still physically opposing the nazi regime. What other option did they have? The USSR was then Germany's ally, the USA was not interested in joining the war, instead preferring to profit from BOTH sides of the conflict, and the rest of Europe that had not been conquered by the nazis was too scared to join in. There's your answer.
When you would count all soldiers from Poland that fought on all fronts, I mean, Poland (underground Army), Battle of Britain, D-day, East-Front, Africa, Italy and so on... Poland was the 3th strongest army under Allies. 🤷♂️
@@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684 Sure. If the numbers are judged on what happened after the Polish surrender in 1939, how about the Belgian Army in 1940 as well? On another tack.. Does anyone know what, if any, memorials there are to British forces in Poland? Example case for such memorial: If the BEF had not been rescued at Dunkirk, and as a cosquence, Britain had decided to seek an armistice with Germany, and that armistice had say clause 126, all Polish military personal in to be trasferred to German (and or Russian!) custody. What sort of future would those Polish people have had? Is there a memorial to Britain in 1940, anywhere in Poland? Perhaps one of the bolshy Poles that post comments on here can give give us the answer.
Poles among others. The highest-scoring non-British ace in the BoB was Czech, Josef František. What's often overlooked is that of the top 10 BoB aces: 4 flew Spits, 5 Hurribirds, and 1 both.
British treatment of Poles who had fought among the Allies during WWII was disgraceful; that's geopolitics for you. General Stanislaw Maczek, victor of the Battle of Hill 262, ended up as a barman in Edinburgh. On the other hand, the Communists had stripped him of Polish citizenship.
@@franktuminski8460It's the polish forever running off their ignorant mouths at what they think they achieved, but mostly didn't. Do you see any other nation bigging up their contribution to ww1 like them?
@@planet_69 I do not like your sarcasm. Who is really ignorant here? In fact, the problem is with the British because many of them think they are superior to the other nation (s) and never talk about their government's dirty politics, full of false promises and lies ( many betrayals). The great news is that some British, are smarter and look deeper into history ( discovering the real facts).
The risky way of fighting was partly due to their already having experience with this sort of style of fighting with inferior fighters, the desire to prove themselves all the more because they were doubted, and their overwhelming consciousness of honour of fighting what they saw as a just cause 7:24 Wasn't it Skalski overall?
I have a little tattoo with "303" on my neck and when people ask my why? What does It means I have a perfect excuse to tell them about the Polish squadron of pilots that led to the victory of the battle for Britain. Unfortunatly the Poles has not been invited to the parade in London celebrating the end of WWII. And thanks to our allies for the betrayal at Yalta.
Such a pity to find you're ANOTHER uninformed Pole who STILL believes all the propaganda BS that the Polish population was brainwashed with by the communists for the 45 years after WW2. What is it with clueless modern day Poles? They seem to have utterly NO idea that modern day Poland OWES its ENTIRE current existence to the British Empire ALONE. What do they imagine would have happened to Poland if Britain and France did as the ENTIRE rest of the world did in Sept 1939 and completely IGNORED the nazi / soviet dismemberment of Poland? Or if the isolated British Isles had instead decided to seek an armistice with the nazis after the fall of France in 1940? Do you all stupidly believe that you would liberate yourselves from nazi tyranny? Dream on. Let me tell you what would have happened in reality. Today Poland would not exist. It would simply be a footnote in modern history books, a former nation that would now be divided between nazi East Prussia and the "General Government" region of the nazi Empire. The former Polish cities would now be "Germanised" and each would STILL today have swastikas flying above them, and most chillingly of all, the likes of Sobibor, Chelmno, Belzec, Treblinka, Majdanek & Auschwitz would STILL be operating and belching human ashes into formerly Polish skies. Please give over with the almost CONSTANT insults at the UK, the nation that made a sacrifice of 460,000 of it's OWN citizen's lives, which ENTIRELY bankrupted itself, and which financed the Polish war effort in the west with UK tax payer's money, and due to those ruinous costs also lost its empire, ALL in the selfless effort to prevent a nazi domination of Europe, and saving YOUR Polish asses from extinction. Sincerest best wishes to all intelligent, decent Poles who understand the reality of the situation in WW2 from us the UK. To all the idiot Polish commenters please leave your messages of thanks & gratitude to your British saviours below.
About the aggressiveness of Polish pilots, they whitness the german war crimes in Poland with their own eyes. So it shouldn't be weird for anyone, that they flew so very close to the german aircrafts. The goal was not to shoot down the plane, o no. The true goal was, to shred the german pilots with the machineguns. Plane crash was just a byproduct of it.
Luftwaffe pilots committed crimes against civilians from the first days of the war. Bombing defenseless towns with no military significance and massacring civilian refugees.
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He admits with a heavy heart that the British have underestimated our soldiers to this day and treated them very badly at the end, but it's probably only the government's fault. Just as Churchill sold us to Stalin's regime. The sad thing is that during the Second World War our allies, and England, disregarded many things and this help was not measurable. If they had gone to war right away against Hitler, all evil would have been averted earlier, But it would take so many people to die and suffer for these fools to finally understand something.
I actually spoke to my dad about this. He was a Green Jacket. In terms of the victory parade, he said that the Russians wouldnt allow the Polish to join us.
@Julia Poland Dlatego nie oczekujemy pochwal i podziękowań. Niech w końcu tym razem zachód ruszy swój tyłek i pomoże chociaż Ukrainie skoro nam nie pomógł. Ruskie się śmieją z zachodu bo jest obłudny. Wiedzą jak zrobił z Polską i sądzą że zrobi to samo z Ukrainą. Nie tym razem. Therefore, we do not expect praise and thanks. Let the west finally move its ass this time and at least help Ukraine if it didn't help us. Russians laugh at the west because he is hypocritical. They know what he did with Poland and they think he will do the same with Ukraine. Not this time.
Britain didn't give Poland to the Soviets. The Soviets took it. Britain didn't control Poland at any time in WW2. Stalin assured Churchill he wouldn't stay there. He lied.
When it comes to technology, Poles created new modern planes. The problem was the economy. Poland was still recovering after long occupation, World War I and war with Russia. They was unable to build a huge amount of military equipment. The Polish PZL.37 Łoś aircraft was one of the most modern in the world, but only 120 such units were created before World War II.
Did you know that Churchill did not invite Poles to the victory parade because he did not want to annoy Stalin? Even the Haitian army marched, but not the Polish heroes.
England is still having more then 30 tons of polish gold from polish national bank. Money were send to Uk because UK's government did say it will be safe here and when the war is over we will give you that money back. And they didn't give that money back . When war was over and was a huge parade, march of allies soldiers from all over the wotld in London , polish soldiers were not even invided. Ther are so many examples like this.
Another clueless Polish freeloader who thinks that the British taxpayer was going to finance the POLISH part of the war effort to topple the nazi tyranny that was murdering POLAND. Look stupid, if you didn't want to pay for your own war effort, then you all should have told us in the UK, We could have then not bothered to sacrifice 460,000 of our own citizens, bankrupted our own country and lost our own empire in the service of saving your worthless arses when NO-ONE else in the world cared if Poland existed or not, and insted left you to be murdered by the nazis right up until today. Stupid Polish ingrate.
WINSTON S CHURCHILL. THE SECOND WORLD WAR. CASSELL & CO LTD VOLUME VI TRIUMPH AND TRAGEDY 1954. P563 'The burden lay on British shoulders. When their homeland had been overrun and they had been driven from France many Poles had sheltered upon our shores. There was no worth-while property belonging to the Polish Government in London. I said I believed there was about £20,000,000 in gold in London and Canada. This had been frozen by us, since it was an asset of the Central Bank of Poland. Unfreezing and moving it to a Central Polish Bank must follow the normal channels for such transfers. It was not the property of the Polish Government in London and they had no power to draw upon it. There was of course the Polish Embassy in London, which was open and available for a Polish Ambassador as soon as the new Polish Government cared to send one-and the sooner the better. In view of this one might well ask how the Polish Government had been financed during its five and a half years in the United Kingdom. The answer was that it had been supported by the British Government; we had paid the Poles about £120,000,000 to finance their Army and diplomatic service, and to enable them to look after Poles who had sought refuge on our shores from the German scourge. When we had disavowed the Polish Government in London and recognised the new Provisional Polish Government it was arranged that three months' salary should be paid to all employees and that they should then be dismissed. It would have been improper to have dismissed them without this payment, and the expense had fallen upon Great Britain.' That leaves Poland owing Britain about £100,000,000 from those times, for food, board, and clothing.
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You probably can't believe it, but check, for example, if Poland took part in the Victory Parade in London. Countries that collaborated with the Nazis were invited, but Poland, which fought on every front of World War II, was not. Stalin simply refused to allow Poland to participate in the parade in London :). You will find more such flowers if you search, there are many ahead of you, master. For example, Franca, who collaborated with the Germans and the Vichy government was already the Nazis, had a resistance movement of several thousand partisans, Poland had 400,000 of them. and military structures. After the war, with the tacit consent of our allies, the Russians murdered entire underground structures in the show courts, and no one spoke up.
tell me did you know that as a reward for this help UK sold Poland to Russia and condemned Poland to communism, occupation behind the Iron Curtain
@@piotrsodel3077 Exactly, they also failed to mention, or rather passed over in silence, the fact that Poles returning to their communist homeland landed in prisons and were accused of collaboration with the "imperialists", and that after the war Poles were "kicked out" of Great Britain, most of our pilots settled in Canada.
@@sirBlackat Yes Robert. But the weapons purchased by the Poles were confiscated and the Poles who wanted to fight the Russian occupation were expelled from England. As for the returnees, some were killed, quietly by the Russians. Maybe the English will read who, for example, Pilecki or General "NIL" was, not to mention the entire command of the Underground Army or General Sikorski, who played such a role as Churchill (Gibraltar). It's a black spot in the history of GB and it's hard to explain it now. A total of 6 million Poles died and the country was destroyed. On Stalin's instructions, Poland was not covered by post-war aid, and war reparations from the Germans are a topic that is still being discussed today. I don't know if you know, but Poland after 1945 paid reparations to US citizens of Jewish origin for the property they left in Poland. She's been paying them for about 15 years.
@@piotrsodel3077 well there's a theory that Hitler worked for US and both wars was a setup to make US a world hegemon.
"Because we do not beg for freedom, we fight for it" Gen. Witold Urbanowicz/303 Squadron Commander.
The Poles need not only a big thank you from the British for the contribution of defending the London, but evidently an apology from the UK government for selling Poland to Stalin in Yalta by Churchill.
Not only that. Those brave Polish pilots were subjected to xenophobia and forced to return to communist Poland and were tortured and murdered.
It wasn't only selling Poland, it was betrayal, stabbing in the back, turning backs on Poland and leaving Poland for its own and Polish people for their own to slatter for germans and later russians
Nie Churchil tylko Roosevelt miał nas w dupie... Churchill nie miał wyboru ...
@@natalias50 tortured and murdered by who? the Russians or their own Polish people, obviously it was both, but rather than condemning those you condemn Britain, a country that took in a quarter of a million Polish people……..
@@hitime2405 screw you ugly brit
you betrayed us like all the dilthy degenerated west and now you pay the price
allahu akkbar azzhole
You see the true story of breaking the Enigma code - The Battle to Crack Enigma - The real story of 'The Imitation Game' - WW2 Special. This story was overlooked in the UK for many years. A plaque has been unveiled at Bletchley Park announcing that Rejewski, Różycki and Zygalski were the first to break the Enigma code. The ceremony took place in 2002.
Most respect for Poland from London 😊my grandfather worked with poles in battle of britain. he always like them a lot and even met with them in krakow in poland after 2 ww
Thanks :)
After World War II, Poles paid £107,650,000 in gold deposited in Canada for defending British skies. Such was British gratitude.
Yet Britain took in a quarter of a million Polish people after WW2, Britain paid and equipped the Free Polish fighters to fight THEIR war against the Germans, no other country did as much for Poland than Britain, but again and again I see the outright disparaging remarks to Britain from the Polish people on here, and you don’t realise it but it comes from Starlin who implemented a campaign in Poland after WW2 to make the Soviets look like the great liberators and the West, Especially Britain look like the great deserters, HE DID A FANTASTIC JOB ! didn’t he!!!!
True,true....
In fact, Winston Churchill betrayed and deceived Poles
True
Unfortunately goverment of England has more tajemnicy about Poland about died polish major and katyn
I want to thank you for remembering the Polish pilots in the Battle of Britain. Greetings from Poland. I think it's more important to them than medals. Have a good life brother
Polish pilots not only fly and fight. They teach Brits and later Americans modern air combat tactics. On beginning no one in the britan want to lern, but very fast this change. Polish pilots use much better tactics and formations then Brits. When the English stopped lecturing them and started listening, it turned out that the Poles showed them how many things they were simply doing wrong, because their tactics came from the end of WW1, when Poland was being developed all the time. When the first American pilots came to England, they didn't make that mistake, many of them spent a lot of time with the Poles. The best example is Francis Stanley "Gabby" Gabreski who was of Polish origin residing in the USA. When he got to England, he flew with the Polish 315 Squadron for some time. Later, he always said it was that he became the most successful US Army Air Force ace on the Western Front.
Again people make the mistake of thinking the RAF was using outdated tactics, the whole RAF fighter command defence of the British Isles was based on the Worlds first Radar based integrated air defence system, when the enemy bomber formations were flying across the channel RAF fighter command would scramble RAF squadrons to where and when the enemy were, and how do you get your squadrons to that point of space and time? you send them in tight formations and then the attack on the enemy bombers starts with concentrated RAF fighters, then you have given your defence the best opportunity to destroy as many enemy aircraft as possible, after the Battle of Britain when the RAF went onto the offensive the RAF used German finger four fighter tactics, not Polish tactics!
@@hitime2405 What you describe is the strategic level and it was well developed. What was outdated was the tactical level - the formations in which they flew, the ways of observing the airspace, the communication between the pilots. The British flew in a formation with a lone pilot guarding the rear, performing the S maneuver. It turned out that with the speed of the fighters of the time, he usually did not have time to notice and warn his colleagues, which ended with the German fighters falling on the surprised British. Poles (and Germans too) flew in loose formations of pairs, mutually insuring each other. This gave them early warning and the ability to field an opponent for their teammates. The difference between the Poles and the Germans was in the type of formation, the Germans flew in the "stairs", the Poles in the "crane". The Poles also taught the English how to search the space with their eyes to spot the enemy faster - something they were famous for. How the pair of machines work together to keep an eye on each other - something Kent recalls in his memoirs - every time the German tried to attack him, he had the Pole on his tail. It was not a coincidence, this is how Poles were trained at the "School of Eaglets" in Dęblin. What seems normal today when we watch "Top Gun" was in large part created there. Poland had one of the most modern pilot training systems in the interwar period. Poles were the first to introduce the concept of air combat training with an instructor. Polish training planes were the first to receive photoguns to be able to analyze exercises. They also had real weapons for training. During this period, no one else practiced combat at the pilot training stage, only in squadrons. Thus all Polish pilots who originated from this school had much more practice before they started to fight. And this translated into new tactical ideas.
@@mikolajgrotowski good information and yes you are correct but I as you know was referring to the defence doctrine of the RAF for the British Isles, and of course during the Battle for France what you described was exactly what happened, no points for the RAF not realising that the home defence tactics would not work over France, and as for cameras on fighter aircraft, there is a photo of a German Albatros DIII taken from the gun camera fitted to the SPAD XII of Guynemer, he was obviously well ahead of his time, but well done to the Polish Airforce, and I must point out that the Victory parade was in 1946 and the new Labour government, a virtual communist party who sing “ we will keep the red flag flying here” didn’t want to upset the Soviets so they didn’t invite the Polish pilots to it, but there was outrage in Britain and following protests from Winston Churchill and the RAF the government then sent 25 investigations to the Polish pilots who quite rightly refused the invitations, not the best of moments for the Labour government.
@@mikolajgrotowski oh and the SPAD XII was the cannon armed version of the SPAD VII, it had a cannon firing through the propeller like the Messerschmitt 109 and Bell Air-cobra.
@@hitime2405 Yes, camera guns were there before, but as you wrote, they were on combat machines, as a way of confirming shootdowns. What was new for the Poles was mounting them on a two-seat school machine as a learning tool. Pilots still in flight school could fight aerial combat, what's more, they could do it with an instructor in the second cockpit. This allowed for much earlier and more advanced air combat training than when training began only after switching to the target combat machine.
THANK YOU Rob for remembering us
What both France and Britain failed to realize is that Poland has had a very strong cultural and institutional heritage of aviation. The end result was that while they flew outdated equipment, the Poles were the best trained and most experienced pilots on the allied side at the beginning of the war.
We were allied and helped to saved british and french asses and to avenge our country Poland and for the thank You our allies turned their backs on Poland and stabbed Poland in the back in Yalta and all those allies to Poland betrayed us
And the Polish airforce lost the battle for Poland in 35 days! is it any wonder that the French and British were not impressed?
@@hitime2405 France was making problems for all Polish soldiers and Britain won against germans thanks to Polish Soldiers and british raf had better results with Polish Pilots, they didn't want to give a chance but they did and it was worth it but on the end british raf and people of Britain made sacrifice goats from Polish soldiers and blamed them for everything even if all of this mess was because of germans
@@NataliaCh93 well then let’s look at your claim, RAF had better result with Polish pilots than with British pilots, Germany lost 1.700 aircraft in the Battle of Britain, the two Polish squadrons shot down 207, but of course 303 squadron shot down more German aircraft than any other RAF unit, but the highest scoring pilot was Czech and it had a Canadian Squadron leader who also shot down a number of its kills, but let’s not differentiate here, when 303 entered the battle the German bomber crews were demoralised and the Luftwaffe tactics had been seriously damaged by the German fighters being ordered to stay with the bombers and the Worlds first Radar based integrated air defence system was now expert in its job of directing RAF fighters to exactly where the enemy bomber formations were in time and space, making it possible for determined fighter pilots to be successful, however I will say that the Polish pilots were excellent and very brave and they helped to win the Battle of Britain but they didn’t win it, and we are grateful for what the Polish pilots did , but it wasn’t the case that they won the battle for us as I continually hear from Polish people.
@@NataliaCh93
British 603 Squadron had the highest CONFIRMED KILLS in the Battle of Britain, at 57. Polish 303 Squadron over claimed it's kills nearly three times over.
More to the point nearly all over British 603's kills were Bf109 fighters, while Polish 303 mostly shot down slower moving bombers such as He111s and Do17s.
The Poles helped of course but 80% of the pilots, 80% of the kills and 100% of the planes were British.
The Poles forget the Czechs, Canadians, New Zealanders, Belgians, Australians, South Africans etc.
"Because we do not beg for freedom we fight for it..."
You can find out much more about The Kosciuszko Squadron, as well as the fascinating beginnings of Polish aviation from a book 'A Question of Honor' by Lynne Olson and Stanley Cloud. It was also translated into Polish and the title is "Sprawa honoru".
there is a very apt quote about the pilots of the 303. "They didn't shoot to destroy the plane. they shot to kill the German inside"
Thank you for this. Being Australian I had no idea the Poles fought for England. I have been to England and Poland and love both countries.
Well good to see my Aussie subs can learn from my polish videos too
Laura Walis...
The Poles defeated the Turks near Vienna, saving Europe from the flood of Islam.
Poles defeated Red Russia saving Europe from Lenin's Bolshevik revolution.
Poles in the Second World War fought on all fronts gloriously enrolling in history ...
In 1968 I was a J/T engine fitter on 115 Sqn at Watton flying Vickers Varsities on flight checking duties. We had a SWO who had pilot's wings and could only speak a version of English. He was a nice guy (unlike most SWOs) and had an Irish corporal who would translate for him in a way. On the squadron we had a pair of Polish master pilots who always flew together and they were very good pilots. I liked them very much and always tried to give them the best service I could. I liked all the Polish people I met.
Many years ago I read a story about Polish fighter pilot in the RAF. Because of their country's treatment by the Nazis they didn't have the same etiquette towards their opponents that British pilots had and this brought them into conflict with senior officers, but their drive made them invaluable in the fight to protect the skies over Britain.
That attitude has served Poles very well. We don't have the time for "gentlemanly conduct" or "rules of the game". We're more interested in getting the job done in the most effective way. This is probably why we can be considered brusque. There are worse things in life
not nazi. germans.
@@antekb1979 not all Germans were Nazis and not all Nazis were German.
@@iallso1 The majority Germans were Nazis
"They (Polish RAF) were fighting a different war (than we)." - RAF Pilot, commenting on Polish RAF fearlessness, aggressiveness and decisiveness in engaging the Luftwaffe.
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Poland deserved and earned a far better outcome than they received, that being political abandonment and betrayal by the Allies. That said, I followed and enjoyed their courageous breakaway from the USSR. Cheers and salutes from the USA.
Such a pity YOU weren't there personally on the front line in central Europe in summer 1945 eager to sacrifice YOUR life in the effort to push the "red steamroller" back to its pre-1939 borders, instead of sitting safely behind your keyboard 80 years later whinging like a bitch that millions of OTHER people didn't sacrifice THEIR lives in summer 1945. Ever heard of "virtue signalling"? Why not get yourself a gun and go to Ukraine, they're STILL looking for more cannon fodder today. Oops I was forgetting the US likes "proxies" to do the fighting & dying while using US weapons.
7:15 Frantisek was not formally a Pole, but to repeated props for moving from the 303 to the Czechoslovak squadrons, he always replied to the Czech authorities that it was impossible because he was Polish. :D
Hi Rob , it's me again. In the last comment I wrote about the way British treated Polish aftermath WW II. I, on the other hand wasn't aware of missing knowledge about this facts in Britain. I visited Blackpool some time ago, there is a mural on one of the pubs depicting a fighterplane with polish markings. It refers to nearby Northolt, where polish fighters were stationed after the Battle of Britain. Nobody in the pub was able to tell me something about the mural or the Poles.... Then I thought, this is just a minority of people. Now I am shocked that this is regarding the majority of Brits.
To be honest I appreciate your effort in publishing reaction vids about topics regarding Poland and Polish. It is quite different to my experience then, when I worked in Nottingham.
I am British and my main interest is the air war in WW1 and WW2, I can tell you your observation that British people don’t care about any history is spot on, no matter what part of history you mention they are not interested, and I would say that is true of 90% of them.
Transferring from one type of plane to another isn't as easy as people might think, so many different ways of doing the same thing. Performance, rate of climb and conflicting controls. Plus the biggest problem, language. You've got to hand it to them. (I have a pilot's licence.)
You see ..... I'm now 65 and as my wife use to say have memory like elephant.
I remember just mid of 70-ties short note in one of polish newspapers, It was something like:
"PPR (Polish People Republic - that was the name of Poland under comunist rulles) paid last war debts to the Kingom of England".
Yes we as a country had to pay for polish soldiers COULD fight in England we paid EVERYTHING uniforms, food, equipment, sallaries, amo, fuel etc.
To the last penny took ca 30 years to pay off England.
Interesting?
Very interesting. I didn't know. Sad.
@@agnieszkazuk This is true,!!!
@@agnieszkazuk
Wiesz ja pamiętam ten szok.
"Polska spłaciła długi za to, że mogliśmy umierać w Tobruku, pod Monte Cassino i w Falaise"
Zastanawiałem się czemu PRL spłacał "długi rządu londyńskiego".
Tu chyba chodziło o legitymizację PRL, przejmujemy WSZYSTKO włacznie z długami.
btw według mnie Anglicy byli w miarę .... rozsądni, przyzwoici (?).
Nie jest prawdą, jakoby nie zaprosili nas na paradę zwycięstwa w 1945, to była decyzja polskiego rządu w Londynie.
Nie jest prawdą, że nas sprzedali w Jałcie, Churchill był stanowczo przeciwny, przeważyła głupota Roosvelta.
Tego jest dużo i jest to skomplikowane. Osobiście dosyć lubię Anglików, a pracowałem u nich no ... ładne parę lat i trochę ich znam.
@@captainbaboo7677 Ach, głupota... ona często nas gubi... Ważne sprawy dzieją się na boczku i decyzją głupców tracimy : -(
W końcu ktoś mówi coś co ma sens. Ja mieszkałem w UK prawie 20 lat, poznałem trochę ludzi, moja żona jest Brytyjką. Masz we wszyskim rację, w tym komentarzu i w drugim też. Powiem więcej, my polacy zachwujemy się tak jakby Anglicy zaprosili nas aby walczyć o Anglię. Nie będę się tutaj rozpisywał, sprawa jest bardzo skompikowana, aby poznać co się stało, trzeba zawsze poznać dwie strony. Łatwo nam jakoś przychodzi pokazywanie palcem kto jest winny, kto sprzedał itd. Fakt jest taki że Anglicy nie są świeci, my też nie jesteśmy.
Ksiazkę "dywizjon 303"
przeczytałam w wieku 10 lat i bardzo mnie wzruszyła, tak samo jak o" psie który jeździł koleją"
@@Nieustanny ???
Ja wczoraj byłem w Muzeum303 w miejscowości Napoleon ❤
I’m honoured to live in Newark ( Nottinghamshire), where most of the Polish 303 squadron pilots are graved. But what it’s a shame to put in a fact, that not so many of a “locals” are aware of what they have done for all of them !?!?😞
Nonsense. A lot od young people across Europe are totally ignorant of the sacrifices made during WW2 because of the globalist directed "ejukashun sistims" of the west nowadays. Unfortunately any yong person who shows an interest in 20th century European history has more chance of learning about it from youtube that their schools.
Rob, thanks for that..
You might consider researching and commenting the fate of gen. Maczek and Sosabowski...
Somebody here mentioned the Enigma story.. And an ugly picture in a British movie about it...
Finally, sth worth reflecting, and commenting on..
Poland, which was heavily destroyed during the IIWW, had to pay Great Britain for the equipment we used to defend the Kingdom...
what about a bitter taste of this?
And still didn't got reparations from Germany
You May learn also about American pilot of polish origin Gabresky who had learnt flying with polish pilots.
Good stories man. You ate the best! 😊
Hi. it's great that you explain such things about Poland and Poles both from over 70 years ago and now. I hope that many Brits (as well as other English speakers) will change their minds about us, especially young people, because from my own experience I know that they do not know about various facts related to Poland and Poles. What some people think that we are at the same stage of civilization as some tribes in Africa living somewhere deep in the bush😄Well done Rob👍 Regards
Thank you 😁
There's an old lady character in an Agatha Christie novel, set just after the war, who says to Hercule Poirot "That's what we fought the war for, wasn't it? So all you foreigners could go home."
A statement of fact... though thats not how it turned out with the UK passing the 1947 UK Polish Resettlement Act that gave full UK citizenship and residency rights to over 250,000 Polish ex service personnel and their families after the betrayal of Poland by the Soviets post WW2.
We were the FIRST western power to pass such legislation, followed by the French in 1948 with the US dragging their heels as usual and doing likewise in 1949.
We're good aren't we?
Recommend book written by couple of American war reporters : Lynne Olson & Stanley Cloud "For your freedom and ours". The book has been written based on London archives when they were opened in 2000.
Highly recommend ! ! !
thank you for touching this case ...
..."We are not begging for freedom, we are fighting for freedom"...
02:20 - not exactly true though. Technology-wise Poland had several good modern planes or its built prototypes like:
PZL.38 „Wilk”
PZL.46 „Sum”
PZL.50 „Jastrząb”
PZL.23 Karaś
PZL.43 Czajka
PZL.37b Łoś
Or some that were still in project phases like fighter planes PZL.56 Kania or PZL-62. Similar with tanks where polish 7-TP and its improved version 10-TP were quite comparable to what Germany had at the start of the war.
It was rather the industrial side that Poland was struggling with as production of these needed time so despite having modern equpment, it was low in numbers. And after regaining its independence, Poland existed only for only 21 years, with economy devastated by WW I eastern front combat, its industry plundered by retreating russians and germans. And even that was interrupted by Bolshevik invasion repelled at the Battle of Warsaw so hardly a time to rebuild country in peace.
When WW II started, Poland was in the middle of army modernisation that was scheduled to finish by 1941 so once again, what was lacking was time.
Beautiful video! You can watch some films like 303 Battle of England, division 303, warsaw 44 or pianist.
Anglik powiedzial do Polskiego pilota po wojnie w Angli . (jusz dosyc zjedliscie angielskiego chleba)
jeszcze jakby ten angielski chleb był taki super.... a szkoda że mu Polak nie odpowiedział czegoś w stylu - pojadł byś trochę zgniłych kartofli w nazistowskim obozie to byś inaczej śpiewał.
The Czech Frantisek probably had more than 17 kills, but he didn't flaunt it and had no evidence of kills. He was allowed to detach from the squadrons and hunted the RETURNING Germans without fuel and without ammunition.
The British made a very nice movie "Bloody Foreigners" years ago. :) A bit of humor and some knowledge about the conflict.
As an interesting fact, I would like to mention that at the beginning of the war, Poles evacuated gold from the national treasury in Poland and deposited it in England. In gratitude for the sacrifice of Polish pilots, the British, in appreciation, confiscated a significant portion of the gold, as they claimed that "the Poles were using ammunition."
So what? Do you stupidly expect OTHER PEOPLE (i.e the UK taxpayer) to pay for the Polish part of the war effort to remove nazism from POLISH SOIL?
When YOU go out for a night out, do you expect your friends to pay for your food and drinks?
Seeing as you like "fun facts" here are a few more for you to enjoy....
By 1942 the British empire had handed ALL 1,400 TONS of its gold reserve over to the US government to pay for the arms and equipment it was using to continue the fight against the conquerors of YOUR country. Once the gold had been spent, we then handed over ALL of our own cutting edge British scientific research to the US as well as global basing rights on empire territory to the US armed forces, and then when all of that had been accounted for, we ran the British part of the war effort and indeed our whole country on US Loans, which we only finished paying back in 2006. As a result of this unforeseen ruinous expenditure we could no longer afford to maintain our own empire, which hastened its final collapse.
By the end of WW2 Great Britain had been transformed from the world's richest nation in 1900 to the world's largest debtor in 1945.
What you also will have utterly no awareness of is that the majority of Polish war debt was written off by the west as it was clear that there was no way you were ever going to be able to pay it back.
And then clueless commenters like yourself complain about having to pay a pittance for YOUR part in freeing YOUR country from nazi death camps & tyranny.
You should have let us know in 1939 that you were going to beat the nazis alone, then we could have left you to it, and saved ourselves all our gold reserve, 460,000 British lives and our empire.
Oninomura
Read this:
WINSTON S CHURCHILL.
THE SECOND WORLD WAR.
CASSELL & CO LTD
VOLUME VI TRIUMPH AND TRAGEDY 1954.
P563
''The burden lay on British shoulders. When their homeland had been overrun and they had been driven from France many Poles had sheltered upon our shores. There was no worth-while property belonging to the Polish Government in London. I said I believed there was about £20,000,000 in gold in London and Canada. This had been frozen by us, since it was an asset of the Central Bank of Poland. Unfreezing and moving it to a Central Polish Bank must follow the normal channels for such transfers. It was not the property of the Polish Government in London and they had no power to draw upon it. There was of course the Polish Embassy in London, which was open and available for a Polish Ambassador as soon as the new Polish Government cared to send one-and the sooner the better.
In view of this one might well ask how the Polish Government had been financed during its five and a half years in the United Kingdom. The answer was that it had been supported by the British Government; we had paid the Poles about £120,000,000 to finance their Army and diplomatic service, and to enable them to look after Poles who had sought refuge on our shores from the
German scourge. When we had disavowed the Polish Government in London and recognised the new Provisional Polish Government it was arranged that three months' salary should be paid to all employees and that they should then be dismissed. It would have been improper to have dismissed them without this payment, and the expense had fallen upon Great Britain.'
Wreście angielsko języczny kanał na RUclips który mówi o nas polakach ,jak dla mnie boba 😁
😊 make sure you subscribe for me. I've been to Poland 4 times and love the place!
@@RobReacts1 Ale mordy nie otworzył co Brytyjczycy dali ich Polskim Bohaterom po wojnie , zostawili w trakcie wojny a Kapral Wojtek skończył w ZOO a generał Maczek skończył jako barman
@@rademenes1754 generał Maczek skończył tak, jak dziesiątki/setki tysięcy pozostałych żołnierzy brytyjskich i nie tylko po zakończeniu wojny, jak armia już nie była potrzebna. Każdy jest dorosly i idzie w swoja stronę. Poza tym gen. Maczek służył w POLSKIM wojsku, nie w brytyjskim. Brytyjczycy nie mieli żadnych prawnych zobowiązań wobec niego.
@@xMastJedi Mieli zobowiązania wobec Polski, o których zapomnieli w 1939 i w 1945
Jeśli by dopełnili tych zobowiązań, to gen. Maczek nie znalazłby się w tej sytuacji
Jeśli dobrze pamiętam rząd jednego z państw (czy jakieś miasto, nie pamiętam które) chciał płacić Maczkowi emeryturę za uwolnienie spod okupacji niemieckiej
"generał Maczek skończył tak, jak dziesiątki/setki tysięcy pozostałych żołnierzy brytyjskich i nie tylko po zakończeniu wojny, jak armia już nie była potrzebna"
Jest różnica między generałem co odniósł wiele sukcesów, a szeregowcem
Generał ma kwalifikacje, które mogłyby być lepiej wykorzystane niż w barze
@@123pik1 Gen. Maczek był żołnierzem wojsk POLSKIEGO. Nie wydaje mi się, żeby jakiakolwiek armia jakiegokolwiek innego państwa przyjmowała w szeregi oficerów wysokiej rangi innej armii.
Problemem były relacje państwowe, a nie personalnie Wielka Brytania - gen. Maczek.
Nawet jak zaciągniesz się do legii cudzoziemskiej to startujesz od stopnia szeregowego. Choćbyś nie wiem kim był w poprzednim życiu.
A to miasto to bodajże w Holandii.
I hope that with the support of Poles and Czechs in the battle of Britain, Britain has done its history lesson forever on the issue of 'not our war'. back in 1938, Neville Chamberlain spoke of Czechoslovakia as a distant country about which they know little in order to justify the Munich agreement. one of the most shameful statements in British history
Not just Poles and Czechs. New Zealanders, Australians, Canadians, South Africans, Belgians etc.
However, 80% of the pilots and 100% of the planes were British.
Poland paid unbelievable high price for WW2 and they lost position for decades in the strongest league in Europe. Germany should pay compensation for 6m people.
I’m British and I totally agree with you, Germany should pay for every single Polish life lost in WW2, the Polish were completely innocent!!!!!
@@hitime2405 Not only lifes of Poles but also economy (I mean lifes of people are more important but very big part of Polish economy was devastated, almost all Warsaw was devastated)
By getting involved in world war 2 Britain lost position in the world, not just Europe and we only recently paid off our war debts. We also lost many lives and our cities were in ruins too after the blitz. And all because we entered a war to support Poland when they were invaded. So we helped each other. It wasn't all one way. Poland was treated terribly after the war, but that wasn't Britain's fault. Churchill was appalled by Poland coming under soviet influence, but it was clear post war Britain was now a bit player in a new world controlled by the U.S.A. and the soviet union.
One of the sources I've read claimed that Polish pilots averaged 1.4K hours in flight training (pre-war) compared to just 140-ish that RAF pilots had.
Poland had to unite after 1918. The lands of Poland were in the hands of three invaders for over 123 years. The final borders of the country were fixed in 1922. A large part of the country was under Russian rule. These areas were very lagging behind in development. Large projects were implemented, such as the Central Industrial District, the port in Gdynia was built, etc. A lot of modern armament projects were created. Unfortunately, there was not enough money and time. An example was the 'Łoś' bomber aircraft. It was the most modern bomber in Europe. Only 96 were produced until the war. These planes didn't have proper support in fighter planes which had obsolete design etc. The production of this aircraft at that time was a mistake. It was necessary to build defensive aviation, i.e. fighter and attack aircraft.
Pisz krócej bo Anglikom nie będzie się chciało tyle czytać. Anglicy dopiero się dowiedzieli kto ich w 1940r uratował od mówienia po Niemiecku.
*niemiecku
@@jannowak2352 od mówienia po arabsku ratować ich nie będziemy, nie możemy w kółko być obrońcami dla całej Europy. Musimy zająć się swoim ciężko wywalczonym krajem, rozwijać go i chronić.
4:01 well the training and skill, the fighter skills mostly transferred over; they had much more flight hours and rigorous training, and often quite a bit of combat experience (the Pursuit Wing had a positive win/loss ratio)
hurricanes were battle of britain, spitfires later
Well done Rob!
The whole thing looks worse than you think. At the time when Poles were fighting for the freedom of England and Europe, Stalin Churchill and Russevelt agreed at the first Tehran and then Yalta conferences that Poland would be occupied by Russia. Check out the topic of the Gibraltar disaster to this day it is suspected that the head of the Polish government was murdered by the English. What's more, Poles after 1945 wanted to continue fighting for freedom with Russia, but as agreed, they were dispersed and thrown out by the allies. Check out the story of General Maczek, who together with the "black devils" liberated half of Europe and ended up as a bartender in a pub. These are the sad experiences of Poles when you look at the fact that "enigma" was a gift from Poles to the Agnliks. Check that too.
“Liberated half of Europe “ what on his bicycle? trying to round up British armoured cars to help, you are definitely overstating things here, tell me if it wasn’t for Britain paying and equipping these Free Polish soldiers with modern weapons and equipment what would they have done?
And your Polish enigma bollocks, Britain bought a commercial Enigma machine in 1927!
What the Polish gave Britain and France was obviously so useless that the Germans kicked our arses out of Europe and wiped the floor with the French, but in 1941 when the Royal Navy captured the Enigma from U-110 with it’s crucial fourth wheel and the code books Britain really began the taking apart the Third Rich, and passing the information on to the USA and Russia, that’s where the Enigma breakthrough occurred!!!!
The “head of the Polish government is suspected of being murdered by the English “ get a grip of yourself! The only people who kill Polish people were Germans and Russian!!! Learn to respect the truth and not the Stalin woven lies!!!!!!
@@hitime2405 Did you even read what Rejewski done? Have you any idea that British cryptographers didn't undertand the work that was done by Polishmen - Rejewski wrote his diary and what he thought of Alan Turing at his visit in France's secret base in 1940, his ignorancy of what phenomenom they done. After escaping from France Rejewski and Zygalski (Różycki died in journey) arrived in front of Bletchley Park...to be rejected! Rejewski broke sometimes manually code in meantime (because he had nothing to do, not allowed to work with british cryptographers) and discovered that they do not even knew how Zygalski's sheets even works - so the British didn't study polish cryptographers' work to understand it even!
@@PolskiModziarz and what you say proves anything that the Polish did with Enigma was not used by Britain, but like I said in May 1941 the Royal Navy captured U-110 with the boarding party retrieving the Enigma machine with its all important fourth wheel and code books, we no longer needed to crack the codes because we now had the code book! and after that we knew everything the Germans were doing, and Turin’s work was to develop a computer to cope with the volume of information coming from the unwitting Germans for the next four years !!!!
the worst part is that a few years later this war would probably have turned out very differently. The Germans attacked at the time when Polish great designers and inventors began to design very modern machines, such as PZL series fighters or tank projects. But at least these designs, or parts of them, fought the Germans in RAF service thanks to evacuating the engineers
"A few years later" Germany would have had a MUCH stronger military equipped with rockets, jet aircraft, far better tanks.
Not only the pilots, read about polish sailors too.
They fight on the sea and submarine
Note that after Battle of Britain one of the polish pilots move to Pakistan with 16 Hawker Typhoons to found air force in this country. He become general and national hero. His name was Władysław Turowicz.
*Polish
@@swetoniuszkorda5737 Dużo było bohaterów w naszym kraju, ale też trzeba być Polakiem aby się dowalić do wszystkiego. Taka narodowa przywara, dowalić się muszę bo inaczej się uduszę.
@@mateuszw6086 Nie lubię niechlujstwa. A komentarz poza tym OK.
I'll say thanks a lot mate!
good job bro
Big 👍
Cheers mate
Get this:
2,936 Fighter Command pilots took part in the Battle of Britain, 145 (4.9% of that 2,936) were Polish. They took part in the second half of the battle. A useful addition to the pilot numbers, but in statistical terms, they had no decisive role in the battle.
The Poles were not written out of the history of the battle. The 1969 feature film, made with government co-operation, devoted an entire storyline to Polish pilots, the Battle of Britain memorials in London (Victoria Embankment), and in Kent (Capel-le-Ferne) show the names of ALL of the pilots involved. The Polish Air Force Memorial at Ruislip is so prominent that it has actually lent its name to the A40 road junction where it is located.
The Poles were invited to take part in the 1946 Victory Parade in London, but declined to take part in that event.
All Polish exiles in Britain (Including those pilots) were housed, clothed, and fed at a net cost to Britain of £100 million. All Polish exiles in Britain were allowed to settle in the United Kingdom under the terms of the Polish Resettlement Act 1947.
There is a saying. Polish aviator, if necessary, will even fly on the barn door.💪
In the end, the Polish nation paid for the planes that Polish pilots destroyed during the Battle of Britain - when the British gave Poland some of the Polish gold reserves deposited in England, which the Poles managed to take out of Poland at the beginning of the war and save, they were reduced by the amount due for those destroyed planes.
And? Do you stupdily thin that the UK taxpayer should have paid for the Polish contribution to the British effort to topple the nazi tyranny that was raping Poland? Guess what? The UK had to repay TENS OF BILLIONS of pounds to the US for the supplies they provided for us during WW2. We only finished paying off that debt in 2006. The UK was BANKRUPTED by their WW2 efforts to release Europe from nazi domination. Show some respect.
Seems that modern day Poles are unfamiliar with the concept of "paying for things", instead believing that others equally desperate should pay for them.
wow!!! thank you for that movie
i m polish and i live in Eastleigh
all the best to You
Do you! Youre not an Uber eats driver or courier are you?
@@RobReacts1 🤣😂🤣
No i work in Matthew Clark near Southampton airport 😁😁😁
Just a simple warehouse operative
@@marcinrafalski oh haha. I just know there is someone that either delivers uber eats or a career with the name marcin 😂
Hi. I have an idea for a new episode... the journey of Polish gold before the invasion of Germany and the Soviets. What happened to this gold and how the English robbed part of the gold ... counting on the costs they incurred for the Polish army. Forgetting that they had betrayed their comrade in battle. they betrayed
The English have a heavy debt to pay, and it begins with the attitude towards bloody foreigners.
If you want a sad really story about the biggest heros of Poland, then you have to watch movies about Generał "NIL" (Emil Fieldorf) , and Rotmistrz Pilecki.
I hope you will find something English, but I strongly recommend the full movies about them.
Thank you for this video
My great grandfather was a polish commander during wwII and theres an amazing story of him defending the city of Cowes in England from a nazi attack, to this day a square in the town is named after him.
You need to watch „Bloody Foreigners: The Untold Battle of Britain” to understand how many difficulties these boys endured.
I don't remember where I've heard it but in some english documentary an officer or someone of higher military standing supposedly said this about the polish pilots (paraphrasing of course):
"When they started shooting the german aircrafts, they weren't trying to destroy the planes. They wanted to kill the pilot inside."
Translation: They did everything they could to kill the Nazis, any semblance of safety be damned.
My grand, grand uncle was a founder and first commander of 303. Zdzisław Krasnodębski alas ‘King’. Thank you for sharing. Btw, I live In Northolt now:)
If you ever come to the UK, In the local museum in Southport Merseyside, there is an entire gallery devoted to 303 squadron, which was stationed at the nearby RAF Woodvale airfield and did their part in defending the port of Liverpool from the luftwaffe. There is a LOT of memorabilia in the museum.... some of which are Zdzisław's flight log and other personal effects that were left to the museum by a member of his family.
@@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684 I live in UK since 2004…and my best friend is living in Melling, small place near Merseyside! I didn’t know that, wow, can’t believe no one told me….Next time I will visit her have to go there! Thank you for sharing.
@@kingdenis2002 I know Melling well... near Kirkby. Southport Museum is in the Atkinson art centre on Lord St Southport.
We Poles are like: "Give me an enemy, and I will defeat him"
1:50 this in not particularly correct - P-11 and PZL.37 Łoś showed Here in video was at this time pretty modern Planes. Sure P-11 was bit older but Łoś was newer really good, one of the most advanced planes at this time - but, they have produced only 92 before the war begun.
Germany lost almost 250 planes over Poland.
Poland losses was 350 planes - most of them on the ground.
"Fighter pilots in exile fly over foreign land
Let their story be heard, tell of 303rd
Fighter pilots from Poland in the battle of Britain
Guarding the skies of the isle"
According to Polish historians examining luftwaffe records polish pilots kills in the b of b were about 58 , 38.8 in 303 squadron and 14 in 302 squadron, let's say 5.2 by pilots mixed in with other squadrons, mostly slow defenceless light bombers and stukas etc.
And yet just the top 8 scorers out of the 146 odd polish pilots who saw at least one combat sortie claim to have shot down 218.
That's about 58 out of 1883 luftwaffe losses and 10 Italian losses. Raf operations were global, this was the only show in town for the Polish. In France just 10% of polish pilots saw any action, that's at having at least one sortie.
The residue of polish experienced veterans all put into 2 squadrons, average age 27 and average experience 6 years.
The raf squadrons were packed with new pilots the raf having seen far more combat over a far longer period than the Polish and suffered 500 odd fighter pilot losses up to the b of b.
The best pilot by far in the battle was eric lock, aged just 21 in his first year of flying with 20.5 kills, 17 of which were bf109's.
Spin, bs, distortion, and telling an incomplete narrative to big themselves up.
Correction about 65 not 218. . . . Predictive texting.
@@chopstick266 I'm like you chopstick. I have NO hatred for the Polish people, and actually admire their resolve & national pride, something we Brits could do with a lesson in. But I DO take huge offense at the continual stream of insults and slurs against the UK, together with the demeaning of British efforts, and the inflation of those of other nations, by Polish commenters and our own left wing arseholes
Keep up the good work.
The pole who claimed the first kill for poles was not excited, but surprised how easy it was on modern british planes.
I highly recommend a book "Sprawa Honoru" by Stanley Cloud, Lynne Olson. It gives you the unbelievable journey of this brave poles pilots!
I,m a pilot and the reverse control on the throttle would be difficult because your reflexes may give an incorrect command. The instruments on the spitfire look fairly standard and simple. My ex wife's uncle flew a spitfire in the battle of Britain he said there was very little food with the rationing.
The movie 'The Battle of Britain "I remember the Poles got into trouble for jabbering on in their own lingo on ;the radio
If you are interested in the topic, there is a nice documentary about 303 squadron. "Bloody foreigners. Untold Battle of Britain."
My father came from Poland as a Air navigator in the RAF. He was on a Air navigation course with Paul Kuflik, Kazimierz Pakula in the hills at Eastbourne summer 1942. I'm lucky my father never returned to Poland.
It was well known that many Poles who returned to Poland after WW2 were killed not just by a cowed government but also by other Poles. They were scornful that the returners came back when they already had an escape from the hardships imposed by the Russians. I remember my parents sending packages of clothes and food to relatives in Poland. Coffee, shampoo were considered luxuries.
Did you know that I am suing over Germany. No Polish soldier was invited to the Victory Parade in London. Fearing Stalin's reaction. In addition to pilots, there were also tankers, sailors on Polish destroyers and submarines, paratroopers, infantry, for example, at Fales and Monte Casino.
there is lots of information printed over the years that enables someone to find out about polish units within the british and commonwealth forces during ww2. documented and recorded, there was no hiding the information, most museums will have some information with a little looking for it. libraries have ww2 histories with lots of accounts of polish plus other nations contribution to defeating the axis forces. none were deliberately forgotten it was just a case of who's books you cared to read. historians tried hard to include as many nations acts as possible in overcoming the armies of the axis alliance. it is left upon the individual to seek out what they require to remember the who, when and where. Great Britain is not guilty of trying deliberately to eradicate others efforts to destroy what was our then common enemy. the opposite is true the UK has taken great care in informing generations since the wars end as to who fought in ww2 over the years.
@@stevechurch4728 Yes, just like with celebrating Alan Turing's work but not mentioning Rejewski's work when talking about the breaking of Enigma Code.
@@PolskiModziarz ahhh the media is another matter, the media is biased, especially the newspapers..... "fog in channel, europe cut off". media is a joke.
co za świetny czarny kocurek 🤩ja mam rudego,i też jest taki lovelas :D tzn kochający misio:)
If you want to know more about polish pilot watch 303 Squadron from 2018. It shows how they spend their time in the army.
*Polish
In "thank you" the English did not invite Poles to the Great Victory Parade in London in 1945 - we Poles will remember this English "gratitude".
Rob a huge thumbs up for you from Poland for this video and for others
Thanks to people like you Great Britain will remember that Poles saved you from Germany like we did`nt manage to save ourselfes.
We Poles always help others like in WW 2 and now in Ukrain but we most the time pay a price for it, sadly now it will be the same...
Dlatego uważają nas za frajerów .
Hey, cool material, but did you know that on June 8, 1946, a year after the end of World War II, a great parade of winners passed through the streets of London. There were no Poles in the column, which stretched several kilometers. Only the soldiers of 303 Squadron received an invitation to the parade from the British, and that too shortly before the parade. No other Poles from other units taking an equally active part in the defense of the UK were invited.
Sorry Tomas but that is completely wrong. You do realise that your country was subjected to 45 years of communist propaganda after WW2?
With regard to the non-appearance of Polish forces during the "1946 Victory parade" the problem lay SQUARELY with POLAND and NOT with the United Kingdom.
The first invites sent out by the UK Labour Govt of Clement Attlee to ALL the nations who had fought for the Allied cause during WW2 (INCLUDING Poland, USSR & Yugoslavia) were sent out weeks in advance of the parade. The Polish invite in particular was quite understandably delivered to the Polish "Provisional Government of National Unity" ( the "TRJN" or Tymczasowy Rząd Jedności Narodowej) based in Warsaw, which was the OFFICIAL Polish govt as recognised by the international community in the form of the "United Nations", and NOT just by Britain alone. The TRJN was the same govt that it was intended the London based Polish nationalist Govt in exile would become an intrinsic part of, as agreed to by ALL sides at the Yalta conference in Feb 1945.... (although the soviets subsequently saw to it that this never actually happened).
This invite sent directly to Warsaw immediately raised a storm of protest from the Polish nationalist govt in exile based in London who, and with some justification, felt they had been sidelined in this matter, their anger was supported by many British MPs, senior ranks within the UK armed forces & members of the British public.
With only days left before the parade was due to take place, and with no reply or even acknowledgement of the British invite from the OFFICIAL Polish TRJN govt in Warsaw, the British govt then hurriedly & belatedly sent out a SECOND INVITE to the Polish Govt in Exile in London, (as well as directly to many individual Polish service personnel), but as one united group they CHOSE to shun the invites to register their anger and disgust at being treated as "second fiddle" to the Warsaw govt.
And the final Ignominy? The Warsaw TRJN govt never did answer or even acknowledge the original invite from the UK (as neither did the USSR or Yugoslavia) and never attended the parade either.
As you can see the Polish "non appearance" was solely down to a poisonous bitter mix of political hatred (from Warsaw) and hubris (from the London Poles), and NOTHING to do with this imaginary "Poles weren't invited to the parade" nonsense. As I've described above the Polish nation was actually the ONLY allied nation to receive TWO invites to the parade.
Now please go and burn the communist schoolbooks your country was forced to "learn" from between 1945 and 1990.
Not recognising Polish soldiers fighting across the Europe as one of key factors to defeat Nazis is diplomatically speaking "understatement". We fought for English sky, despite treating our pilots as morons at first. As other example, Lieutenant General Stanisław Maczek was a Polish tank commander of World War II, whose division was instrumental in the Allied liberation of France, closing the Falaise pocket, resulting in the destruction of 14 German Wehrmacht and SS divisions. Germans called us "Black devils". To many examples to cite. Despite of our efforts, we were sold to the soviets to appease Stalin in Yalta. As a result, 20 000 Polish soldiers from the underground army were captured and executed secretly(1945-1947), when the soviets took control, because they didin't agree with soviet rulez. Please do not forget our officers, professors, and teachers slathered in Katyń (the most famous) - 250.000, after ruzzians attacked us "from behind" on 17th September 1939, as the result of Ribbentrop -Molotov non-aggression pact. That is one of the reasons we hate ruzzian rulez and feel so much for Ukraine, pointlesly attacked to be wiped of the map by putler.
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Britain went to war for Poland in 1939. Where's the thanks for that?
@@lyndoncmp5751 Are U kidding me? WHEN nad WHERE? Are U ruzzian boot, or are U simply moron?
@@lyndoncmp5751 Where was the help in September 1939?
They are in the same place
@@123pik1
There was an air war and sea war going on from September 1939. First British deaths of WW2 were on the night of September 3rd/4th 1939 when the RAF carried out bombing raids on targets in Germany.
If Britain didn't declare war on Nazi Germany the Third Reich would still be controlling Poland today.
You're welcome.
@@lyndoncmp5751 It wasn't helpful for Poland
How it helped?
Look for the film "bloody foreigners. Untold battle of britain" 😅
Why? Its a load of lefty propaganda shite,
Let me just remind you that as a reward for our services you took part of the Polish gold deposited in England.
Well I didn't. But I get what you mean
The battle of britain (in short)
Poland pilots protected the UK,
UK sell Poland to Russia,
Poland "Co kurwa?"
Complete bollocks.
Polish pilots made a small but valued contribution towards the defence of the refuge they been given from nazism after having run from Poland to France and then from France to the UK. It's why the Poles called the British Isles the "island of last hope".
Soviets renege on their agreement signed at Yalta in 1945 and steal Poland. Then teach Polish school children (and thick headed western dupes) from 1945 to 1990 that it was the "west" who betrayed them.
If it wasn't for the UK then Swastikas would STILL be flying over the capitals of Europe today.
If you want to know more why and how Poles fought in the Battle of Britain, I recommend two films.
Bloody Foreigners: Untold Battle of Britain
and the second Did a Few Reckless Pilots Save the World? | "303" The Documentary
That's fine if all you want to watch is devious left wing propaganda (the first documentary) & misinformed Polish patriotism (the second one).
The Poles who fought in the battle of Britain did so because Britain was the ONLY country in the world then still physically opposing the nazi regime. What other option did they have? The USSR was then Germany's ally, the USA was not interested in joining the war, instead preferring to profit from BOTH sides of the conflict, and the rest of Europe that had not been conquered by the nazis was too scared to join in.
There's your answer.
Thank you for your work and showing who we are how we are trited? by hole world. We dont diserved? sorry for my english.
Very interesting polish person was Tadeusz Kosciuszko 🙂
When you would count all soldiers from Poland that fought on all fronts, I mean, Poland (underground Army), Battle of Britain, D-day, East-Front, Africa, Italy and so on... Poland was the 3th strongest army under Allies. 🤷♂️
3rd? Don't make me laugh. The USSR USA and UK all outstripped the Polish forces. They were 4th place at best for manpower.
@@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684
France in 1939-40, and in 1944-45?
Canada?
@@thevillaaston7811 Most likely, Which is why I said "at best".
@@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684
Sure. If the numbers are judged on what happened after the Polish surrender in 1939, how about the Belgian Army in 1940 as well?
On another tack..
Does anyone know what, if any, memorials there are to British forces in Poland?
Example case for such memorial: If the BEF had not been rescued at Dunkirk, and as a cosquence, Britain had decided to seek an armistice with Germany, and that armistice had say clause 126, all Polish military personal in to be trasferred to German (and or Russian!) custody. What sort of future would those Polish people have had?
Is there a memorial to Britain in 1940, anywhere in Poland? Perhaps one of the bolshy Poles that post comments on here can give give us the answer.
Chwala wielkiej Polsce
Polski Nacjonalizm opiera się na miłości a nie na nienawiści
Poles among others. The highest-scoring non-British ace in the BoB was Czech, Josef František.
What's often overlooked is that of the top 10 BoB aces: 4 flew Spits, 5 Hurribirds, and 1 both.
British treatment of Poles who had fought among the Allies during WWII was disgraceful; that's geopolitics for you. General Stanislaw Maczek, victor of the Battle of Hill 262, ended up as a barman in Edinburgh. On the other hand, the Communists had stripped him of Polish citizenship.
Nobody overlooks Josef Frantisek's achievements but only the Brits like to take all credits to be best
@@franktuminski8460It's the polish forever running off their ignorant mouths at what they think they achieved, but mostly didn't. Do you see any other nation bigging up their contribution to ww1 like them?
@@planet_69 I do not like your sarcasm. Who is really ignorant here? In fact, the problem is with the British because many of them think they are superior to the other nation (s) and never talk about their government's dirty politics, full of false promises and lies ( many betrayals). The great news is that some British, are smarter and look deeper into history ( discovering the real facts).
Read the book "A Question of Honor".
The risky way of fighting was partly due to their already having experience with this sort of style of fighting with inferior fighters, the desire to prove themselves all the more because they were doubted, and their overwhelming consciousness of honour of fighting what they saw as a just cause
7:24 Wasn't it Skalski overall?
I have a little tattoo with "303" on my neck and when people ask my why? What does It means I have a perfect excuse to tell them about the Polish squadron of pilots that led to the victory of the battle for Britain. Unfortunatly the Poles has not been invited to the parade in London celebrating the end of WWII. And thanks to our allies for the betrayal at Yalta.
Such a pity to find you're ANOTHER uninformed Pole who STILL believes all the propaganda BS that the Polish population was brainwashed with by the communists for the 45 years after WW2.
What is it with clueless modern day Poles? They seem to have utterly NO idea that modern day Poland OWES its ENTIRE current existence to the British Empire ALONE.
What do they imagine would have happened to Poland if Britain and France did as the ENTIRE rest of the world did in Sept 1939 and completely IGNORED the nazi / soviet dismemberment of Poland? Or if the isolated British Isles had instead decided to seek an armistice with the nazis after the fall of France in 1940? Do you all stupidly believe that you would liberate yourselves from nazi tyranny? Dream on.
Let me tell you what would have happened in reality. Today Poland would not exist. It would simply be a footnote in modern history books, a former nation that would now be divided between nazi East Prussia and the "General Government" region of the nazi Empire. The former Polish cities would now be "Germanised" and each would STILL today have swastikas flying above them, and most chillingly of all, the likes of Sobibor, Chelmno, Belzec, Treblinka, Majdanek & Auschwitz would STILL be operating and belching human ashes into formerly Polish skies.
Please give over with the almost CONSTANT insults at the UK, the nation that made a sacrifice of 460,000 of it's OWN citizen's lives, which ENTIRELY bankrupted itself, and which financed the Polish war effort in the west with UK tax payer's money, and due to those ruinous costs also lost its empire, ALL in the selfless effort to prevent a nazi domination of Europe, and saving YOUR Polish asses from extinction.
Sincerest best wishes to all intelligent, decent Poles who understand the reality of the situation in WW2 from us the UK. To all the idiot Polish commenters please leave your messages of thanks & gratitude to your British saviours below.
About the aggressiveness of Polish pilots, they whitness the german war crimes in Poland with their own eyes. So it shouldn't be weird for anyone, that they flew so very close to the german aircrafts. The goal was not to shoot down the plane, o no. The true goal was, to shred the german pilots with the machineguns. Plane crash was just a byproduct of it.
Luftwaffe pilots committed crimes against civilians from the first days of the war. Bombing defenseless towns with no military significance and massacring civilian refugees.
there is a great book about 303 sq, question of honor by olson and cloud.
If You are looking for good documentary film about Polish pilots fighting over Great Britain watch "Bloody foreigners. Untold Battle of Britain". It is wonderfull film with polish pilots memories. It is available on RUclips.
"All of you won the war, but we lost". Me.
He admits with a heavy heart that the British have underestimated our soldiers to this day and treated them very badly at the end, but it's probably only the government's fault. Just as Churchill sold us to Stalin's regime. The sad thing is that during the Second World War our allies, and England, disregarded many things and this help was not measurable. If they had gone to war right away against Hitler, all evil would have been averted earlier, But it would take so many people to die and suffer for these fools to finally understand something.
What a pile of complete BS. Another clueless Polish ingrate.
Why Great Britain betrayed Poland in Yalta and gave it to Stalin?
I actually spoke to my dad about this. He was a Green Jacket. In terms of the victory parade, he said that the Russians wouldnt allow the Polish to join us.
@Julia Poland Dlatego nie oczekujemy pochwal i podziękowań. Niech w końcu tym razem zachód ruszy swój tyłek i pomoże chociaż Ukrainie skoro nam nie pomógł. Ruskie się śmieją z zachodu bo jest obłudny. Wiedzą jak zrobił z Polską i sądzą że zrobi to samo z Ukrainą. Nie tym razem. Therefore, we do not expect praise and thanks. Let the west finally move its ass this time and at least help Ukraine if it didn't help us. Russians laugh at the west because he is hypocritical. They know what he did with Poland and they think he will do the same with Ukraine. Not this time.
Britain didn't give Poland to the Soviets. The Soviets took it. Britain didn't control Poland at any time in WW2. Stalin assured Churchill he wouldn't stay there. He lied.
When it comes to technology, Poles created new modern planes. The problem was the economy. Poland was still recovering after long occupation, World War I and war with Russia. They was unable to build a huge amount of military equipment. The Polish PZL.37 Łoś aircraft was one of the most modern in the world, but only 120 such units were created before World War II.
Did you know that Churchill did not invite Poles to the victory parade because he did not want to annoy Stalin? Even the Haitian army marched, but not the Polish heroes.
Yes, my dad who was a green jacket and loves all things war history told me that.
You will watch ,,Bloody Foreigners The Battle of Britain'' is British documentary movie.Pozdro z Polski
England is still having more then 30 tons of polish gold from polish national bank. Money were send to Uk because UK's government did say it will be safe here and when the war is over we will give you that money back. And they didn't give that money back . When war was over and was a huge parade, march of allies soldiers from all over the wotld in London , polish soldiers were not even invided. Ther are so many examples like this.
Another clueless Polish freeloader who thinks that the British taxpayer was going to finance the POLISH part of the war effort to topple the nazi tyranny that was murdering POLAND.
Look stupid, if you didn't want to pay for your own war effort, then you all should have told us in the UK, We could have then not bothered to sacrifice 460,000 of our own citizens, bankrupted our own country and lost our own empire in the service of saving your worthless arses when NO-ONE else in the world cared if Poland existed or not, and insted left you to be murdered by the nazis right up until today.
Stupid Polish ingrate.
WINSTON S CHURCHILL.
THE SECOND WORLD WAR.
CASSELL & CO LTD
VOLUME VI TRIUMPH AND TRAGEDY 1954.
P563
'The burden lay on British shoulders. When their homeland had been overrun and they had been driven from France many Poles had sheltered upon our shores. There was no worth-while property belonging to the Polish Government in London. I said I believed there was about £20,000,000 in gold in London and Canada. This had been frozen by us, since it was an asset of the Central Bank of Poland. Unfreezing and moving it to a Central Polish Bank must follow the normal channels for such transfers. It was not the property of the Polish Government in London and they had no power to draw upon it. There was of course the Polish Embassy in London, which was open and available for a Polish Ambassador as soon as the new Polish Government cared to send one-and the sooner the better.
In view of this one might well ask how the Polish Government had been financed during its five and a half years in the United Kingdom. The answer was that it had been supported by the British Government; we had paid the Poles about £120,000,000 to finance their Army and diplomatic service, and to enable them to look after Poles who had sought refuge on our shores from the
German scourge. When we had disavowed the Polish Government in London and recognised the new Provisional Polish Government it was arranged that three months' salary should be paid to all employees and that they should then be dismissed. It would have been improper to have dismissed them without this payment, and the expense had fallen upon Great Britain.'
That leaves Poland owing Britain about £100,000,000 from those times, for food, board, and clothing.
chronologicly
germans did what germans do.
poles did what poles do.
brits did what brits do.
Watch the film Hurricane: Squadron 303 by David Blair from 2018.