If you haven't already, a lot of libraries allow you to "rent a librarian." You get a time slot where you tell them what you're working on and they'll help you research it. Librarians are fantastic at helping you find the information you want, and asking the questions you didn't consider.
Just subscribed for the same reason! Patterns annoyed me, and being a 1970s hippie and belly dancer, I made a lot of patternless clothing. In the 1980s I became a historical recreationist. There generally were no patterns. I like your style and plan to make a skirt like this. ✌🖖
In the late 1950's my parents and I visited Mexico where, among other things, they bought a skirt for me. It is a circle skirt, open on both sides from waist to about mid hip. The waist band from the back came around and hooks in front on tabs long enough to replace the hooks as I grew. The front waist band comes to tie in the back. It was long enough to grow with me for six full summers. It grew up with my daughter and again with my granddaughters. It is awaiting the next generation.
I was going to say this is basically a reinvention of the Mexican circle skirt from the 40s and 50s. I've had several of them, being a big fan of vintage clothing for years. Although the pockets weren't quite as big as these, they were big!
@@2degucitas cotton. The type which bed sheets are made of. Very lovely pictures of children playing were drawn on it using crayons, yes they survived well, each drawing having been ironed to permanence.
Hey I have the same story only for me it was the 1970s..lol mine has a bunch of bright embroidered flowers on it and we have a matching top. I only had son's, but I have a granddaughter. She loves to put it on and swirl around..lol
In terms of big weight fluctuations - V. Birchwood did an interview on how pregnancy was handled, back in the day, and that definitely was a significant factor in why European *women's* clothing in particular was fairly adjustable (even in periods where menswear really was not). A person could basically handle *most* of a pregnancy in just their normal clothing, all the way through the end of the 1830s. Basically, people were pregnant often enough - and clothing was expensive enough - that having a separate maternity wardrobe really wasn't a viable option for most people.
I will have to check it out! I am currently pregnant, about 2 months, and I could probably still wear my corsets for chronic back pain, for now, but I haven't decided to risk it, and imagine as we progress my body will have aches that would benefit from safe supportive garments.
@@ERYN__@abbycox is a dress historian focused on 18th century. Check out her channel for info. Also Lucy corsetry did a video about wearing corsets herself during her pregnancy.
Having worn wrap pants (not hakama) almost regularly in my teens, I can tell you there's a very practical reason skirts tie on back first, but pants tie on front first. Saves having to completely remove a garment to use the bathroom
This makes sense how period cloths were handled! Too! Like I saw a clothing history videos on it and it just didn't make sense to rummage with all the layers of skirt. However when the front is openable, it's really a simple thing to change on your cloth holding suspension
Yes, the reason why clothing manufacturers don't make adjustable clothing is obvious, but, the fabric they use is so flimsy their garments wouldn't last more than a couple of years anyway. That's one of the many reasons I sew my own - because I sew with much better fabric, the trousers I made 12 years ago are still in good condition even with weekly wearing & washing. My mother made adjustable clothing for herself so she could get through all 8 pregnancies without buying special 'maternity' clothing - but then she was a child of the Great Depression and WWII, could look at a picture of a dress and chalk out the pattern pieces on the fabric (paper was precious) and a few hours later be wearing a great frock, because that was what her family did to get by. We all wore adjustable clothing as children through the 60's & 70's because hand-me-downs didn't always work - children even in the same family have different shapes and grow at different rates. Our clothes were adjusted mostly by clever folds or sets of pleats held in place by buttons & buttonholes that were moved further apart as we expanded, and triple thickness hems that were lowered as we shot up. My mother was also knitting top-down way back then - it is so much easier to lengthen the pullover of a growing child if you just need to unravel the ribbed hem and sleeves, add in a few rows, and reknit the ribbing. It's also an opportunity to replace worn yarn. As always, the current generation is rediscovering the wisdom and ingenuity their parents discarded in favour of the new technology 😊
My grandma's depression era moto. "Use it up. wear it out make it do or do without." Making clothes from the flour bags that companies thoughtfully made in numerous patterns. Clothing was mostly homemade to 'make it do' for handing down and growing 'into' not 'out of'. Extra wide pleated side seams and mid backs and grandma's favorite. an inner ruffle that could be let out adding up to 5 extra inches to the length. Every sewer had their favorite ways of making maternity and children's clothing.
Re:Flour sack fabric. MyMother was born in 1921. At 14yrs old she sewed and embroidered a set of white flour sack dishtowels. She used them all through my childhod to dry dishes and when I married in 1964, she gave them to me I am still using those flour sack towels to dry dishes and to cover my bread dough when it is rising and to cover my baked goods as they cool. and to dust with flour and roll out pie crusts etc.They are large and lightweight and show no signs of wear inspite of 90yrs of contant use. and laundering. It is impossible to find cotton fabric like that anywhere today.
@@prarieborn6458 Wow! i knew she sewed with them and wore out clothes for 7 kids with them, and made quilts with the fabric she could save from the worn out clothes, but 90 years of use! I say again...WOW!
You might also be interested in the traditional Chinese skirt style called Mǎmiànqún. They tie around the waist, but the splits in the skirt are in the front and back! Pleats at the sides and overlapping panels in front and back ensures that you stay covered. This skirt style allows for for example horseback riding 😄
I just finished watching a Chinese historical drama series (Chef Hua) and was fascinated with the clothing. The women's clothing appeared to be a blouse with loose pants as basic wear, then a tie-on skirt, over-jacket, and sometimes, a long thin 'coat' over that. The fabric for the women's skirts looked to be silk. Very flowing and light, and multiple layers.
@@lynnbetts4332 I was reading about some historical stuff and it seemed that in around 1910s, some of the Taiwanese people were very against ladies wearing trousers as outer wear as they were seen as underwear (as you said, trousers were wore under skirts)!
@@aprillen It doesn't matter if you don't have Chinese heritage, we Chinese don't care about appropriation, if you like and enjoy it then all is good and we are happy you find our designs great.
@@oxvendivil442 Thank you so much for saying that! I know that some people of Chinese heritage in the west feel differently, though. I wouldn't want to hurt anyone's feelings! I'm very interested in traditional and historical clothing, though, and I think many styles of hanfu are super beautiful!
"wrap skirts and dresses aren't really that adjustable" THANK YOU. I (used to have) a pronounced hourglass figure, and a wrap skirt or dress that fit my waist would often open up all the way up my leg if I sat or crouched. So many of the retail ones (and patterns) have very little overlap. Ditto for surplice tops -- it's not really adjustable if the neckline ends below your navel 😊
YES @gadgetgirl02 - they may call them "wrap". but they barely close! I think basically designed to flash people! (But more likely because of producers being cheap about fabric use).
In the 70s I was so skinny. I made my beige denim wrap skirt without a pattern, therefore the two back panels completely overlapped. I made it with 2 patch pockets that each had a second "secret pocket" under the fringed flap. I wore it to my office job, traveled all over Europe on a Eurrail pass, tucking all kinds of quick-grab travel necessities into the "4" pockets. Loved, loved, loved that skirt! In the 80s we started a family, and I got a little bit thicker, but could still wear my beloved wrap skirt; in the 90s my Mom died and grief made me downright fat. My wrap skirt became an apron 🤣, and I treasure it still, but no longer wear it. Now, 4 years ago at the insistance of my daughter I too made a long gored skirt (no pattern needed) for a formal dress occasion for my husband's & my once-in-a-lifetime Cunard line ocean voyage. But underweigh I soon discovered that, although formal was required for some shipboard events, there were plenty of casual options. So I never bothered unpacking the formal outfit, eschewed all formal activities, and stuck to my routine comfort of jeans. Still, I wish I had seen your video at the time my daughter started going on about formal dress!
A family story from my grandma about those open front maternity skirts with the tie above the belly: when my great grandma was in one of her pregnancies, she wore one of those to a basketball game that one of her older kids was playing in. When she stood up to cheer, the little lace came untied and the skirt stayed behind.
I remember my Mom telling me that her doctors told her not to gain more than 14 lbs while pregnant and as a secretary she had to wear a girdle the entire pregnancy. I still find it mind boggling that me and my brothers survived. This was why the pregnancy patterns at the time did not show visibly pregnant women.
This always boggles my mind! When my mom was pregnant with my sister in 1969, her doctor started harping on her at the 10-pound mark. She literally went on a diet WHILE PREGNANT.
I'm 62. When my mother was pregnant with my brother in 1955, her doctor made her take amphetamines to prevent weight gain. She gained 6 pounds. He suffered from mental illness and died young from idiopathic kidney disease which means they didn't know why his kidneys failed. Hmmm.
That is one of the most surprising things i have found in the seamstress and marker industry. The lack of real creativity. A pattern gives you a base for what you have in mind to create. Take that base pattern (any pattern that comes closest) then tweak is the way you want. People forget that they can mix patterns pieces to help with your creativity. A friend of mine had a child with a strong OCD for fabric labels (the loop kind). He wore out a small blanket with one. I made him a blanket with his favorite theme then added trim. Fabric Label loops all the way around it. He LOVE IT! He never wore it out and you couldn’t tell the loops were heavily worked because he had so many to choose from. And kept it with him for years. They moved away some years ago and don’t know if he still has it.
"Workwoman's Guide” (1838) says ”Skirts are generally made with the opening behind, but for elderly persons or servants, it is at the sides, the seams being left unsewed for about four nails from the top sometimes they are furnished with pockets on one or both sides ...”. (A nail is 1/16th of a yard.)
@@gettheetothestitchery And servants need closures they can do themselves (not lace in the back!) The ladies maid doesn’t have a ladies maid to lace up her skirts in the back! (Maybe the elderly didn’t have maids either, or just needed easier fastening in general.)(Velcro sneakers, gramma?)
Thank you for sharing! That would explain why it hasn't been as talked about as much (as far as light research showed). It's not fashion for the ladies, but practical wear foe women who worked.
@@carlamiagm not even all the middle class has enough servants to have one dressing you in the morning. I think the implication is that the elderly are less flexible and may find it harder to tie behind. An alternative explanation though is that ties at the side was the prior fashion that elderly were accustomed to.
tbh i clicked on this video because of the pollera (the typical panamanian dress) on the thumbnail. since i was a kid i've worn this dress, mostly the skirt in school while learning about my my culture and never thought about how genius it was. Thank you for changing my perspective, now i want to make one for the daily in my style honoring long lasting clothes!
So the question is, does it tie on the same as the other skirts? Can we have an explanation if it is different. I am finding this fascinating. Thank you in advance.
Holy crap! Listening with ear bud while doing housework. I heard the magical words… adjustable, huge pockets and optimum swoosh. I had to stop working, restart the video and yes, have my mind blown. Then I was watching alone (except for my dogs) exclaiming out loud … holy crap! WTF! What kinda of witchery is this!!! Now I love you. I’m starting my skirt this afternoon and using up some of my stash of yards of fabric for quilting and yes… my repurchasing goodwill vintage tablecloths etc. THANK YOU!!!
I used to have a historic sewing business and everyone loved the 18th c. split side petticoats. Not everyone loved all the ties that go into them, especially once you layer all the various bits & bobs. This is what made the stays (not a corset, different garment, similar function) so important. The stays hold the weight of the skirts. This is what makes that wide laced panel so fantastic, plus getting rid of the ties for the pockets - it's fabulous. I can tell you as a former professional costume researcher & historic seamstress, who has looked at well-researched examples from dozens of museums, extant garments, documentation in ads and dressmakers shops, the ties were either self-fabric tubes (rarely) or twill tape (common) for the waistbands. The fabric was folded over to suit the height of the person with the band stitched on and replaced as needed. The reason the focus is on the pleating is because that's what changed in fashion; sometimes it's gathered then pleated, sometimes it's box pleats, sometimes knife pleats, sometimes big, sometimes small. We just called it a 2 panel petticoat, or 18th c. style petticoat. If you call it a skirt nothing is going to come up in Google (which is good & broken now anyway), because that's a much more modern term, and not applied to that garment until much later. Yes, adjustability was critically important in the 18th c. because a person may only own 2 or 3 outfits. Women spent large parts of their lives pregnant, weight fluctuated with the seasons & gains and losses were common. Even the highly fitted garments are deceptively adjustable with hidden laced panels, drawstrings, overlaps, etc. Just about the only thing that got fitted were the sleeves, and boy were they tailored to within an inch of your life. The men's garments even had lace-up panels to make them fitted when they weren't truly fitted.
The hakama pants were also commonly worn by women back in the Heian era. many noble women held positions in court working and managing everything on a day to day basis. The fashion of the time was layers and the Junihutoe 十二単 (literal translation : twelve layers) was an outfit constructed from a un-dyed hitoe which is like a kimono robe and the hakama pants as the undergarment, the uchigi robes (apparently the maximum was ten layers), the uchiginu which was a stiffer robe to support all the layers, the uwagi which was shorter than the other robes, the mo a train skirt and the karaginu which was a jacket. The women expressed their style by the way they layered colors and patterns and their blend of incense perfume. The Junihutoe went out of style after the Heian (peaceful) era and after 400+ years of civil war the fashion changed so much that only the people in the little bubble that was the imperial court dressed the same
The maternity clothing from the 40’s and 50’s really struck a note with me. A while ago I was chatting with my Gran (who is now 96) and we got onto the topic of my cousin’s pregnancy. She told us how she was shocked our cousin had shown off her belly as ‘that just wasn’t the done thing and quite unseemly’ when she was younger. She did go on to acknowledge that the way fashion and attitudes changed over the years baffled her in places. But that memory will always stick because it was interesting to see how society has such an impact on the people within it to the point where ingrained world views can’t be left behind. My gran didn’t mean anything nasty about her comments, but her views on maternity clothing really are a product of the world she grew up in.
My mother's maternity skirts had an actual hole for the belly. Strung ties like shoelaces to hold skirt up as waist changed. It floored me to find the 2 outfits still hanging in her closet when she died, 48 years later!!! I wish she passed them on when I was carrying in 1978 and 1982. Her clothes were 100 % cotton and well made. All I could find were polyester tents ,very uncomfortable in Louisiana sticky heat;
I got to visit Panama many years ago on an exchange program and my insight into their polleras as a traditional garment is it's definitely viewed as a right of passage. Every woman would love to have her own pollera, unique to her with its embroidered motifs and the coordinating adornments that complete the costume, but these articles can be prohibitively expensive to commission: Moreso it's common within the community to see private collections and a mix of the socially privileged and benevolent matriarchs who want to honour tradition and may give or lease the opportunity for their pieces to be worn for an event or simply for the opportunity that a woman can say I too have worn my country's dress. Therefore, as a costume, it's utterly practical that a piece should be adjustable to many altered sizes. Compared to many of the women I met in the country I was bigger and taller and I met a grand old señora whose collection included maybe 14 complete pollera skirts and bodices, not to mention the coordinating ties and innumerable beaded and gold plated hair pins to style your hair just so!... She graciously offered for me to wear one of her dresses as an experience and all of my friends were gathered as I was paraded on foot from the señora's house to my host's grandmother's house (a very long, hot walk beneath all the material of the skirt)!... This act alone brought a lot of pride to my host family who could not have afforded this experience for me... So ultimately, there's a quiet genius and dignity in the dress's adjustable construction to extend the life of these amazing pieces to many wearers as a matter of national pride and preservation of their connection to deep and rich roots.
Hi! I have croatian roots, and I made and embroidered my own "nošnja" (nosh-niah) traditional fron region of Slavonia (were my dad was born) and had to do a lot of research. One of the books I had lucky enough to read, full of illustrations, photos and detailed drawings of the garments, and the skirts and petticoats had split tied waistbands. That is very common since young girls started to embroider them and those traditional garments were used by generations, not only the original owner throughout her entire life
My mother and sister need adaptive clothing due to handicaps. I’m always trying to figure out how to close things without zippers, velcro (which messes up while washing), snaps, etc. I loved all of your information! I love research, too, but hit a wall. Thank you so much!
Would D-rings be an option? I have a relative hate/hate relationship with Velcro! It is hard to sew through, and constantly getting itself stuck on everything you don’t want it on! With my father I found going to larger buttons (5/8”) was enough to make buttoning his shits easier.
For looser fitting, fiddly, mostly decorative stuff I use...magnets. For closer fitting things -d rings and straps and lacing. Once I accepted defeat with all the 00 and other tiny human/child sizes clothing I owned (after years of starvation), and figuring I don't want to thrift a new wardrobe, I just attached lacing to ...a lot of stuff, and it looks and feels... Great. One can always loosen the clothing if it becomes uncomfortable. Same with d-rings and rows of alternative buttons for waistbands. And drawstrings! Drawstrings with a good,soft cord and maybe a stopper, depending on particular individual's tastes and abilities. Sensory disability people seem to do well with adjustable items. Regarding zippers, I replaced a lot of zipper handles on my grandma's clothing - she can still use them comfortably with her arthritis at 97!
I fully agree! I have also cosplayed Kenshin quite often in a home made getup (hakama pattern from Folkwear) and I've played Japanese inspired characters at LARP in kimono and hakama. Especially at a LARP, these clothes are quite good at keeping you warm. Although I did cheat a bit with one character making a 'winter version' of her kimono and haori in synthetic fleece fabric (wool could also have worked but is quite expensive on a student's budget).
I'm jumping on the "secret pants" bandwagon and mine will be hakama based because I've already made several (I do martial arts, used the Budo Bear pattern), the only thing I hate about them is all the fuss to use a toilet (especially with gi pants underneath) so I was thinking about how to make mine easier to wear by making side laces instead of ties. But now I'm starting to reconsider that, maybe I'll figure out how to tie them more sensibly that we do for Aikido or Iaido...
@@bunhelsingslegacy3549 the hakama pattern I used has you tie the back flap on last and with shorter ties, so I've never had a problem with that. I've never worn the Aikido ones though.
@@bunhelsingslegacy3549 I never wore a hakama at aikido. I never got to shodan grade which was required to be allowed to wear one at this dojo. At some point my knees and my mind were suffering. Being neurodivergent, work had gotten to demanding to be able to focus at evening dojo sessions. But when I wear one for cosplay, I first tie the front panel. Then put up the backside and tuck the ribbon from the upside into the belt, pull them down and tie them in front. When I need the bathroom, I always sit down so it's a matter of untying the front, pull the backside down and sit on the toilet.
I actually got a little bit into historical fashion some time ago and was on to something because I thought "omg, I HAVE to make skirts (and dresses) inspired by this, because I'm always gaining weight and this would be perfect!" but then the Coquelicot Skirt came around and I am SO happy that someone just did this and I don't have to wing it myself. I immediately bought the pattern even tho I never used a pattern before, but sometimes it's just nice to be a little bit lazy. xD Love this pattern!
This has been a recent area of research for me as well as no waste sewing. I've done historical re-enactment for 27 years so I had some familiarity with split sided petticoats and drawstring petticoats. I've also done Viking age tunics(bog coats) with square cut construction. I wore my Viking age tunics through my pregnancy, although the hem hiked up in the front as I got hugely pregnant (my son was almost nine pounds when he was born). I was also able to breastfeed relatively easily in them as well. I do a lot of sewing without a pattern or by drafting my own. My old Vogue sewing book has a chart of wearing ease to write into the patterns so it fits comfortably. I can remember a few years ago I lost 55 pounds in six months (divorce and single parenting) and even though I couldn't even afford thrift shop prices I had to get all new clothes and it wasn't easy. I had two pairs of pants for the longest time and a bunch of my old, now baggy t-shirts to wear. I would have killed to have clothes that would have adjusted and saved me the expense. I've been looking at gradually replacing my wardrobe with items made of natural fabrics (durability and compostability at the end of useable life) with as little waste as possible and as multisized as possible. I have seen some really awful zero waste designs and I know from my own sewing that it doesn't have to be that way.
This video somehow stung a note with me, especially the final question. I do know a culture that wears a kind of split skirt - though it's actually two apron-style skirts worn one in the back and another one in the front, neither one reaching around the whole body. I was born and grew up inancient Czechoslovakia, in the part that's now the Czech Republic but close to the Slovakian border (the region is sometimes called Moravian Slovakia in English). The traditional costume in my Mum's native village, that I have worn myself on special occasions, consists of a sheath-like underdress, covered on top by a short ("cropped" would be the modern term) shirt, basically puff sleaves tied in the front worn under an embroidered waistcoat or vest. The mid-section of the underdress was usually exposed, and had an embroidered band. On the bottom you'd wear two apron-like skirts, one in the back tied in the front, usually single-colour (mostly yellow or orange) and pleated, and another one in the front tied all around the waist with decorative ribbons, the skit was usually white and heavily embroidered. It might look like an apron worn over a pleated skirt, but it wasn't that. The under-dress was usually longer and had an embroidered band at the bottom that was seen. When you walked normally the skirts would remain "closed" but if you danced and spun around the underskirt would be seen. I had one such costume made when I was around five. We also had two full adult-sized costumes that I would wear when I grew up. The size wouldn't matter, the only problem would be the underdress and the waistcoat that closed by hooks (it was always too loose for me, I was skinny), but the rest was tied on and hence adjustable and people would actually borrow it from neighbours ("I need this part for a village festivity, do you have one?") and I have NEVER heard anyone comment on the size! I haven't had the costume on since I was maybe 15, but my parents keep them. I should try them on, I guess the waistcoat will fit me snuggly now, which is the right look ;-) www.google.com/search?client=tablet-android-huawei&sxsrf=AB5stBiI4wGm0S-lXdwGg6N9ENcSlmQz7Q:1688310807621&q=velk%C3%A1+nad+velickou+kroj&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj4o9Xvp_D_AhVq9rsIHW5UDgEQ0pQJegQIEhAB&biw=962&bih=601&dpr=1.33#imgrc=uKIaZc61dIgZ-M&imgdii=6XoPZ92CkeOrfM
Thank you so much for sharing this information! It's always such a joy to hear firsthand from someone about something I've been researching, so this info is invaluable!
I know they do not have pockets, but I absolutely love my Sari wrap skirts as they are highly adjustable and can be worn many ways. I've also been completely converted to wearing corsets as they are also very adjustable, even on a day to day basis such as wearing it a bit looser if feeling a bit bloated or tighter for back and diaphragm support if you need it. Its really nice to see how there are enough of us now that are looking at and preferring adjustable clothing to the demands of the ever changing fast fashion world.
This old lady didn't understand all the fuss over the Coquelicot skirt - just thought it was a more complicated wrap skirt- and while I still don't think it's the most amazing thing ever, at least now I understand the fascination and the architecture. The most brilliant piece of adjustable clothing I ever owned is also hard to find info about on the internet - at least when I looked in the past. In the late 80s or early 90s, there was a line of clothes by Richard Simmons, the fitness guru. Pleated dress trousers were a popular look, and his brilliant design not only included these buttonable extension tabs on the sides, but there was a stretchy lining panel (lycra? spandex?) running from side seam (behind pockets) to zipper placket, so you had the smoothest tummy and perfect pleats. Nothing makes pleated plants look worse than having your tummy bulge out and expand them. Yes, these were made out of horrible polyester that I vowed as a child to never wear, and pleated trousers probably haven't been stylish since then, but I'd still buy them today if I found them lol.
Late to the party, but this is a fantastic video. I noted that you commented that there weren't non-satirical drawings earlier than Harper's. As a reenactor of the American War for Independence, I can tell you that there are a plethora of them! These illustrations are called" Fashion Plates" and were all the rage! Another excellent source for 18th century everyday clothing is the engravings by William Hogarth. I love that you included this concept in other cultures. Thank-you so much!
My Navy Uncle sent my Mom and I skirts from Mexico. They were open on both sides, with attached pockets, but the slit on either side could access secondary pockets if they were needed. Loved that skirt to the end, and have based many skirts like her since.
I am a huge Kimono Nerd, and have been for quite some time. Think about it: Japan is an *island.* An island about the size of California. Maybe 1/3 is habitable by humans, and less is farm-able. You want "sustainable?" lol look at Japan. Every single thing gets used, all the time, before Meiji era (American industrialization era.) Fabric was often woven by hand in middle classes from hemp, or eventually there was this New fabric from India: cotton! Silks were labour intensive and made in different grades. All dyes were also made by hand, an extremely intensive process. These different industries meant everyone working together (for the most part) because everyone needed this stuff. And fabric wasn't wasted. You couldn't just go to Jo-Ann's and get more fabric that was made 80" wide in a factory in China, which took 20 minutes to produce and a few hours to fly to America. Depending on fabric, including yarn thickness, weaving type, weaving materials, dye, etc, you might wait months or a YEAR to get new fabric. Wasting fabric seems to be a European thing probably because we had land to be able to make so much of it. In Japan, it's costly to import. It isn't even "new" to kimono construction to make them adjustable. Just the opposite! Yukata (cotton ultra casual kimono, like for saunas and summer festivals) are NOW made "to size." Before, everything is rectangles. Making a kimono means sewing seams to width you want and folding flat excess fabric. Like felling, but without cutting anything extra. *Duh?* When it gets washed, it's taken apart and sewn together in a bolt again for washing. Then it is resewn to the new measurement needs. This way, fabric doesn't get too worn from seams only in one side of the fabric, and it fits again. It can be passed on endlessly. I own kimono that are wearable, which are 100 years old. Taisho era. Fabric that is weak can be broken down for anything you like: cushions, decor, towels, toys, eventually ranru or blankets and eventually, burning for fuel. The phrase here is "mottanai": waste nothing. It just makes ~sense.~ Comparatively British-area culture had this attitude of waste. Carried out into America, where we again have SO MUCH LAND, waste. We don't tie rough mats made of the cut down palm fronds here around trees in winter, so that bugs burrow into the mats instead of in trunks, but then we complain of our trees being insect-infested. We dump clothing straight to landfills or to Ghana, killing the people and wildlife there, because we won't use tie-on waistbands or sew a button back on. And here in the city, it's culturally unacceptable and unfeasable because of people-decided regulations that we can't have composting here. There are CLOSED compost bins, even! They don't hold much, but nope. Even though many, many people rent instead of own here, can't have those. So throw everything away. ... why do we have so many problems with landfills? I just don't understand. (sarcasm)
I do historical reenactment and my Californio enaguas ( petticoat) are made with panels sewn to a waistband ties and I love it. When I made it I was 20 pounds lighter and it still fits fine. It never occurred to me to make every day skirts that way. Facepalm moment.
As a historian I appreciate your “disclaimer” at first - AND you saying how you get to your info by using deductions and common sense ❤ - THIS is actually a big part of history and science in general😅…Thank you for being so good at explaining how you do your sewing (and research)😃
I didn't know Mexican folkloric skirts were side split style before elastic, and I live here! 😂 The super full skirt is that expensive because it's for traditional dances at festivities and professional shows, the daily wear ones our traditional communities wear are not that full, and frequently default to prints instead of embroidery. They're also mostly elasticated now.
I took up belly dancing for awhile. I am very large, and was having trouble finding full skirts to dance in that were large enough, long enough, and affordable, as I am on disability. Our community has a lot of latin and Mexican people, so thrifting is sometimes fun. On such a trip, I found a split side Mexican skirt that would fit if I just regathered it a little farther out on the ties. It's beautiful, has enough length, and is very swirly, so it is perfect for dance. I'm very grateful to the person who decided to donate it, and say a little thank you each time I wear it.
OMG!!!! I’m born and raised Colombian and holy smokes when you said Polleras I screamed!!!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂 yasssss hunny! I’m here for all this content. Also, I’ve been dying to learn how to make a decent pollera 🥲🥲🥲
Happy to have found you. Yes, the first time I saw this, I immediately thought about Colonial Williamsburg and 18th Century skirts and petticoats. A new take on 18th C skirts. With integrated pockets! (BRILLIANT!!) Nothing is ever really new, it just recurs. Love your take on it. (Oh, and don't believe the article that says that people had to get completely naked just to access their pockets. Such rediculousness.) So, yeah, maybe come join us over here on the Historical CosTubing side of things. We have research, and grand balls, and delightful food. AND YES! I can TOTALLY relate to You can't research a thing because you don't have the name of the thing because, apparently, it was such a non-thing that no one even mentions it AND yet! there it is cuz every one uses the blasted thing and I really need to find a pattern or a clue or a hint other than this very vague picture! I was very specifically looking for patterns from 1882 to 1884. The Natural Form Dress era was certainly a thing, but good luck trying to find the name "underskirt." Yes, it was that simple and yet, so frustratingly hard. It took me weeks of hunting, only to stumble across the term quite by accident. And when I did -- VOILA! Patterns! The Natural Form Era was a moment when everything changed drastically, but the world just seems to gloss over it because it snapped back from those years with sassier bustles.
It's so crazy to me (and yet completely understandable) that so much information can be lost to time because it just seems so basic and boring to people in the moment! Makes me think I should start cataloguing anything that I take for granted for posterity... XD
@@gettheetothestitchery This is why many historians love people who kept really detailed diaries with inane details that no one otherwise would care about. There's so much we don't know about people in the past because for them it was common knowledge and they didn't bother writing it down.
Once upon a time I had a skirt pattern which fastened at the side pocket. It was adjustable over a couple of sizes as the pocket hid the changed size - up to a point. In the 80s and 90s Maternity pants had a row of snaps at the side pocket in the same way, only they were also elastic-waisted and ugly. Megan Nielsen Patterns has both a trouser and a skirt with a side-pocket closure. Also, Folkwear patterns have a number of wrap/tie garments from all over the world. Simplicity also made a "wrap pant" pattern maybe in the late 1970s which was reprinted recently.
I made this skirt but had an unforeseen problem. With 2.5 yards of fabric and 39” length, it is heavy. So when tied on it sat above my hips and back but over time the front sagged. Becoming a tripping hazard. This is what corsets were for. I now wear this black skirt when I play in orchestra with my corset and a loose black blouse. I received compliments!
Retired orchestra musician here: I always wore the same long black skirt with different blouses so I had some options for those 4 performances in a week that didn't cost the whole paycheck. The skirt was made with a bit of elastic in the back as well as 3 sets of skirt hooks to adjust as needed.
Late to the party (as always), but a great over-view. I did have to chuckle a bit when you talked about the wrap skirts, though. You see, when I was ... I think it was in my early teens (late '70s) I had a wrap skirt that A) was reversible, B) had functional pockets, C) was adjustable to a point, and D) didn't threaten to expose me with the slightest of breezes. Needless to say, it was quite a shock when, many years later, my next wrap skirt had _none_ of those things. The trick with it was partly in the piecing, and in how it was fastened. To look at the pattern (no, I don't think Mom still has that pattern, more's the pity), it looked like just about any A-line skirt... just with two identical fronts. You could possibly have removed one and made it into a standard A-line with a side fastening... once you changed method of doing so. The pockets were sewn into the side seams. The fastening was a long, maybe inch wide band that went the length of the waist plus a decent amount on each side to wrap and tie with. The key was, in essence, a button hole set in the band lined up with the skirt seam. To put the skirt on, you would wrap the back and "under" front on, feed the tie through the button hole, then bring up the "over" front and fasten the ties at the back. The ties were long enough that if you needed a little extra room, you would just tie it looser. The full under-panel allowed for a bit of expansion before being dangerous in a breeze... Thinking about it now, I do see one flaw with it. It was adjustable for an increasing size, but would be a bit bunchy for a decreasing size. The benefit of having a full under-panel means that there would always be a minimum size limitation. Of course, having just typed that, my brain is now shoving possible fixes that while not being perfect, could at least be less awkward... like moderately (2 inch?) "belt" loops spaced along the back half of the skirt, to help slightly gather any extra waistline while keeping the look fairly clean. And now I have to at least make a mini-mock-up, or the silly brain will not shut up. =chuckles=
Oo see that seems like a really good wrap skirt! Thank you for explaining it so well - I can picture exactly what you mean, and yeah, I think your fixes would allow it to size down as well as up super well!
Butterwick pattern with belly cutout: I think that might be to allow an a-line skirt draping without the belly distorting the fall of the fabric. Also makes it easier to have an even bottom to the hem since the belly won't be pulling up the material in front.
This is amazing for me I'm so glad this kind of skirt is trending right now. I bloat like a dead whale the moment I eat anything at all and elastic waistbands are the devil. Forget about years, I need a different size hour by hour!
Maybe you should try a FODMAP elimination diet to figure out what food causes the bloating? A friend of mine had this, and didn't realise she was sensitive to gluten - she's a lot more comfortable now she can avoid it!
This may come as unwanted advice, but if you are bloating to the point that you need to adjust clothing (unless it's because you are overeating, that happens) on a regular basis, you might really wanna go see a doc, if you haven't yet. I myself had that too, and thought nothing about it, and it's endometriosis which turns out to be quite common despite being not very known.
As someone who understands you, as I too bloat easily and quickly and not being a licensed doctor I will NOT offer unsolicited advice. I WILL assume you are an intelligent functioning human who knows when something may be out of the ordinary and has ALREADY investigated and determined WHY things happen to your body. I am hoping I will get up the motivation to make a version of this adjustable garment to allow me to be comfortable any size! 💝
YES!!!! FINALLY!!!!!! I have gotten SO SICK of cycling through my whole wardrobe as my weight fluctuates, and being constantly uncomfortable in clothes that don't fit. Clothing options for fat trans guys with texture sensory issues are few and far between, but I've been hesitant to sew my own clothes that fit my tastes because I didn't want weight fluctuations to take out half my wardrobe. I've been wanting adjustable clothing for ages, this is such a great jumping off point for my research, I'm off to make my own pants with a waistband that fits! thank you!!!
In the UK it was once possible to buy maternity trousers which had a flap at the front which was adjustable on each side, at the waist. I suspect it would have been a slider as seen on children's school skirts. This would have been around the seventies. Having put on weight during Covid and not losing it afterwards has left me very interested in adjustable waistbands. Loved the video, thank you.
I was watching a lot of RUclips videos on historical fashion, one of them mentioned the split side skirt, it blew my mind and I ended up taking a sewing course, and a circle skirt inspired by that method of closure was my first project. Its freaking adorable and quincidentally, I wore it to work today 😊
Saris and salwar chemise are adjustable, and when your host's in-house tailor gets it back from pressing he will take the liberty of adding stitching inseam for larger sizes so all you have to do if something is too snug some day is rip out enough seam for the item to be the next size up. It's wonderful to have clothing that fits you for decades despite multiple pregnancies. Also, wrap skirts work if you keep a separate "pocket belt" to wear under your skirt that has slideable pockets on it.
I feel like when we talk about fashion history, it's only fancy party dresses. I wish I could find a book that was exclusively work/day wear. its like if someone wrote a book on fashion 2000-2020 and only used clothing articles from MET galas and Golden globe awards.
We do tend to be way more fascinated in upscale clothing from all time periods, which, you know... it's fair, that's the fancy, super creative stuff. But we really do need to keep track of and explore the histories of all types of clothing!
I sew appreciate the fact that you not only were honest about your credentials, but gave links and credit where credit was due. It's frustrating when others try and act like they haven't watched Any videos on what they are doing; even more so when they act like they came up with it! Sew good on you sewing string sister! Subscribed, thumbed up and belled! 👍🏻🙏🏼✌🏼❤️
I am so looking forward to the tutorial! I know I'm going to have to make a few! I mentioned to my daughter (13) about the style and how it has huge pockets, and she got very excited. As someone who has dealt with fluctuating weight, this is genius!
Yay!! I can't wait to see what everyone is able to create, and I love that it's a design style that can work for anyone at any age and with any body type!
The work you put into this video is so appreciated. I love history research and I am also super lazy 🙌🏻 I don't think I'll ever wear another skirt again 😂 the pocket size, the adjustability and the pure amount of swoosh you can get fills me with a power no woman should have 😂 Thank you for bringing this style to my attention!
Thank you so much for making this video! I bought the coquelicot skirt pattern a few weeks back, so I am so excited to hear that you're doing a process video! Fascinating to hear about all the clever people who have utilized this style across history and geography, and I'm glad it's getting a mini-revival. You make such a good point about fast fashion's anti-adaptive nature. I've been excited about adaptive clothing in general recently and I think the recently trending paper bag pants also allow for size changes across a lifetime, and I've seen them with a fairly wide tie that echoes the comfort of the wide waistband. (A pair of paper back work slacks might be my next project...)
Oo I love me some paper bag pants and shorts! And they're so easy to make (compared to, you know... other more terrifying pant styles). I have a pair on my to-do list as well!
I used the Coquelicot skirt pattern - I rarely use patterns but this was fun and I wanted to support her. It was worth it. It's great! I made the fuller version *8 panels!! and it's full on swoosh! It's in insanely comfortable and I think the yoke version of the waistband is pure genius.
I recognized the word coquelicot. I read it about 30 years ago in a romance novel by Georgette Heyer. The novel was set in the 1800's and a mother was showing her almost grown daughter a chest of her own clothing from young aculthood that she had saved. One was a couquelicot in stripes.
I don't know that Abby Cox has done a video specifically about the petticoats with splits for pockets, but she is a costume historian and she frequently focuses on the 18th century. So she might be able to weigh in on how common the apron closure vs the drawstring closure was.
As an 18th century reenactor, it’s pretty much understood by the reenacting community that drawstrings were not a thing. We have extant garments from that time period to inspect. Generally speaking there was a box pleat in the front and an inverted box pleat in the back panel.
That was much more interesting than I expected, if you'd been a history teacher when I was at school I would have done history O-Level,. You have a lovely presentation style and a very clear voice - such a relief for someone whose hearing isn't so good these days. I'm now going to watch your tutorial and maybe I will finally find a use for some of the mountain of fabric I've bought over the years but never used because I didn't want to spoil it by cutting it. (Yes, I am a fabric hoarder!)
Thank you! That was so much fun to hear about all your research and experience. On the adjustable clothing friend front I didn't do it on purpose but many years ago I made an elastic waisted skirt with a bias-cut yoke at the top and gathered skirt starting just above the hip line. I loved it because the bias yoke and elastic waist easily grew and shrank with me over the years, and lasting in a way none of my more modern knit clothes ever have.
This is so interesting! I'm getting really into historic sewing as a hobby (I watched this while preparing full sized 1890's pockets courtesy of Bertha Banner's guide - the bag version for anyone interested) but as someone who deals with bloating, I've given up on closures in my skirts and just pin them closed so that I can adjust at will. I'm going to have to give this method a try, so excited to have more clothing items with respectable pockets.
Thank you to the algorithm for showing me this channel! Just subscribed! Loving all these examples of adjustable clothing from history. I don't think the reason these aren't sold anymore is because people would have to 'buy fewer clothes', but that the aesthetic has changed significantly. It's much harder to do adjustable clothing for weight gain if the aesthetic is more skintight, or slim, or 'snatched'. The examples shown are quite voluminous, and sort of lock you into either a flowy style or an a-line style. In any case, fashion companies love selling people things with elastic and drawstrings and other forms of adjustability in them. I think they would just compensate by saying "buy 10 of our adjustable skirts, in all these different colors and styles." I also suspect these are much harder to manufacture and sew (and therefore more expensive) than stuff that's elastic-y. It's still a great project for home sewists, though, and it's lovely to see that there are both skirt and pant variations available for the lower body. I love your enthusiasm, and I look forward to your future videos!
I’ve watched this set of your videos a few times now as I really enjoy them, and I keep forgetting to tell you these things, so here goes: Apparently, 18th century skirts and petticoats were both called petticoats, hence some of the confusion. An excellent source of information is Ash LG, they have produced a couple of videos on both the ‘skirts’, and the pockets. The choice between making attached pockets for each skirt, or making ornate sets of pockets on their own waistband (I’ve taken to calling it a sash as it goes with the swoosh 😂) to go with several skirts is of particular interest to me. Some of them are incredibly beautiful! Delving a little deeper, I found a thing called a pocket swap, which involved several of these talented costumers etcetera making each other pockets. They could choose between a set of 18th century pockets, or utility pockets. I think you’ll find it all fascinating, and may follow me down the rabbit hole I’m currently in of making these zero waste split side skirts/petticoats, and pocket bags. I’m incredibly excited by it all atm, some may say obsessed 😂 and I really think you’ll love it all too. I’d suggest you start with Ashley LG as they’re very straightforward and clear in their instructions. I really hope you find it all as amazing as I do! ❤❤❤
I bought the pattern because of your fantastic blue skirt. I'd looked and hemmed and hawed for literal months... and happened across your photos on Instagram. Glad to hear you give credit where it's due❤
Before you mentioned it was based on 18th century designs, I thought "wow, that looks like an 18th century apron front gown front." And dude...18th c pockets? Total game changer. I was (am? can't do it often) a 1770s living historian and pockets are AMAZING. So much stuff can be crammed in those babies and no one will notice, and no damn bag to worry about!
Oh, and pockets were a separate garment in the centuries before they were sewn into dresses and skirts. Which wasn't until the latter half of the 19th century, in which they were hidden, and in the 1910s, they became visible and a were a bit of a fashion detail.
Great video. It is interesting that most Third World clothing is adaptable for both pregnancy and non-pregnancy. I wear Boho and ethnic clothing with elastic and drawstring waists. My weight has fluctuated massively in recent years, losing nearly 70 lb and the only clothes I got rid of were the closely fitting ones. I have ethnic dresses with ties at the back, and skirts and trousers that are 30 years old and I never stopped wearing them.
I am in awe of those who can 'wing it' when sewing. I learned to sew over 50 years ago and followed the pattern and guide sheet to the T. My mom invented many shortcuts in her sewing and tried to teach my sisters and me, but we never could 'see' the process as she could. I don't sew much any more, but am intrigued by these skirts and petticoats. You all are rockin' it!!
I’ve seen maternity pants with this kind of closure from the 50’s. Also, I think this side split kind of skirt is the traditional folk costume skirt (made in a woolen cloth and massively pleated) in Sweden, with the side split feature there for easy maternity dress accommodation (and also for wearing throughout your life, with the body changes it entails).
@@monicagranucci5081 It's called "folkdräkt" and there are regional variations all over Sweden. I'm not well versed in the construction and couldn't find a free pattern online so I don't actually know how they're closed, but the oldest ones and the styles the newer ones are based on ARE late 17th-18th century folk clothing, so I feel like it tracks that they may be similar to the petticoats etc. Big embroidered pockets are also a thing with them though worn on the outside rather than under the skirt.
It's actually much more common for Swedish folk costume skirts to open at the center front or side front, where the opening is hidden by the apron. This also makes it very easy to accommodate a pregnant belly since you just have to hitch up the skirt over it or maybe get a string to tie the hook and eye together.
Oh em GEE I am *so* excited this video was suggested for me! My niece is getting married in January, and I need an outfit. I have found my jumping off point!!! This is AMAZING!!! ❤❤❤❤
I want to add an additional skirt: from Mexico--c. 1950's cotton circle skirt with painted or stenciled print. These usually have hook & eye fastening in front for back waistband, and tie back for the front waistband. Pockets seem to be optional. Also, in the 1980s and 1990s loose fitting pleated or gathered pants and skirts with open-pocket sides were very popular (I have an example in my collection). The sides were buttoned, sometimes with several buttons to choose that changed the fit. This concept is related to sailor pants with the drop front closure (although in women's apparel only the waistband is buttoned). As a seasoned fashion design instructor, it was my observation that side pocket closures went out of use when garments lost fullness and true waistband styles were phased out in favor of hip level and lower waistlines in the late 90s/early 2000. The added bulk of side openings weren't desirable. Elastic backs and flat front waistbands were less bulky and became more common. There was never an industry plot to increase sales by not creating adjustable sized waistbands (you imply a sense of organization and leadership that does not exist in the apparel industry). Open side closures are simply a fashion option that went out of consumer favor in preference for close fitting lower garments without waistbands at the true waistline, especially pants which out-sold skirts within a few years. (I have continued to make side pocket closures, as have other experienced seamstresses when faced with a more vintage styled skirt that needs to have a well fit waistband, even after eating)
Two days ago my friend and I agreed that leotard and wraparound skirt [pref from India] were the most comfortable clothes ever [at least until hospital greens came along]. And here we are! I'm a bit of a sewist and I used to make a pocket to put into the side seam to go forward or back of a skirt. I adore this video - and the clothes. Street clothes were so cosmopolitan in the 50s - 60s. I can even remember when ladies put on a hat and gloves to go downtown. I can't stop babbling - see you soon. Got to pull out the fabric box.
My opinion: The S American cultures you mention and the clothing are based on historical clothing from the "conquering" Western cultures that dominated from the 1700's on, and eventually synchronized with the native cultures. It's a given that those skirts reflect the fact that these split side skirts were in fact a common item for women's clothing. Ballet Foklorico's female costumes are in fact a fossilized version of 1860's women's fashion. They just don't wear the crinolines and many layers under the skirts to bloom them out. They are quite beautiful.
spot on with this comment. Early European women arrived in the 'new world' with their commonly worn under garments: white cotton petticoats, pantaloons, corset covers and sleeping gowns, that they would then give to their servants and working people as suitable clothing. These form the basis for so much of what we now see as regional 'costume'--the Mexican embroidered dresses and blouses, tiered skirts, even Hawaiian Mumu and Navajo velvet top and tiered velvet skirt. In the Americas we have to go back to wrapped textiles, skins, feathers and fibers to see original apparel.
So, from some of my own research, I believe in england around the victorian era iirc (it's been awhile since I looked this up) they had split skirts, but the pockets weren't attatched to the skit due to them having a lot of layers. Instead it was like... a little tie on pocket you could tie around your waist and then reach into the openings in the skirt layers. Could fit entire chickens in those things if ya made them big enough. This is why corsets were also really useful, because they helped support the weight of the skit layers and the weight from the pockets.
Saris technically could fall into adjustable clothing? Other than blouses which only really got introduced during British empire the underskirts when worn are uni size and the sari itself is draped to fit any body
And then there's the salwar kameez, a sari alternative in some regions of SE Asia. Pant legs are loose & gathered at the ankle; the part covering the torso are voluminous. They don't wrap; rather, with slits at either side and a drawstring waist, they've fabulously adjustable and oh, so comfortable.
All these cultures are so cute for making all these different versions of an "adjustable skirts(& pants)". I love this video & the comments are helpful and heartwarm. ☺️
You are stinking adorable and super entertaining! I’m not one for many RUclips videos, but this held my attention the entire time. I don’t sew well, but I am looking forward to a tutorial so I can make one of these for myself!
I love your skirt, and the Coquelicot pattern! I think historically many clothes were not adjustable for size changes, but (hand)sewing was something women spent much more time on. If a dress needed to be adjusted for a different size, there were deep hems and ample seam allowances, and it could be altered, which I consider a kind of adjustability. The clothes weren't disposable, or fast fashion, but were well made of quality fabrics and would be repaired, restyled, altered, handed down and eventually cut down to make children's clothing and finally used to make scrap quilts.
Loved this video and am supper excited for the tutorial. I really liked that you gave credit to the creators that inspired this skirt and I did take a look at their patterns and am now following their pages but they just didn’t have that fantastic wide waist band that you made that really caught my eye!
In the past I have designed and made costumes for local theater guilds and in my humble opinion as a twin Reversible/adjustable clothing is EVERYTHING so everything I make incorporates this concept and takes up way less space in the closet
May i refer you to a video "500 years of maternity clothes" by V. birchwood. basically. for 500 years, in western culture, men's clothing buttoned. and women's clothing laced and was adjustable. Not just for monthly weight changed, or weight gain loss. but also, pregnancy. if you might spend up to half your adult life pregnant, your clothes still needed to be wearable then. Now, this is awesome to draw on for other reasons, but there's a reason everyone assumed women's clothing needed to be size adjustable.
So true! Even nowadays, I'm a big fan of clothing that you could potentially keep wearing straight through a pregnancy, because the concept of going out and buying a whole new wardrobe for such a small period of your life is just crazy to me!
A note to remember the farther back you go, ALL women's cloths are maternity clothing, since most women would have been pregnant, breastfeeding, or getting pregnant , and especially since displaying pregnancy was uncouth having pregnancy explicit clothing would have been avoided for the most part
Hi, I'm not a historian either, but I would have guessed that the reason for adjustable clothing for women, was origionally, that they would be expecting to have many and frequent pregnancies, so would almost constantly be changing size. Thanks for the video, IM going to wathc the tutorial now. I had been thinking of making somethin like this but with buttons on the central piece that you have laced.
When I was growing up in my family my Mom made many of our clothes. I remember that Mom paid 10 cents a yard for the fabrics that she made a couple of outfits that she made for my sister and I. When anyone outgrew clothes they we be handed down to another family member or friend. Nothing was wasted. My Mom's best friend would remake her own clothes and clothes that were given to her to make clothes for her young daughter. Nothing was wasted.
My aunt had a 1950s formal skirt, taffeta with stacked pleats (impossible to alter!) that had an eyelet and laces inner waistband to carry the weight and a sash or flap to hide the closure. There was a bodice and jacket to match. It was moderately adjustable, but I think the real reason for the closure style was because a zipper would have been ugly, and a bazillion yards of taffeta is heavy.
There are 2 main types of patterns: traditional costume and tailoroing. Tailoring is by far the less efficient method, it goes far back western Europe in 1400s and was invented as a way to show off luxury. I would also add the Ma Mian skirt, a traditional chineese part of han fu costume. Subscribed, now! ❤😊
As someone from eastern Europe, our traditional dress tends to have adjustable skirts. They are usually wrap skirts, but a very specific style; šorec is a Czech (namely Moravian) style, but it can be found in Slovakia as well, and it is a normal box-pleated skirt in the back, but it just doesn't connect in the front, or even overlap. This isn't an issue for modesty, as you wear an apron over it and petticoats (spodnice) and an undergarment (rubáč) with it. Leknice is a variant from a neighbouring area where the skirt construction is nearly identical (although the pleats go all the way rather than the front being flat), but with the bodice sewn on. It's generally agreed on that we all had the style, but started sewing up the front under western influence, though the slit generally still remains in the front (or, less commonly, is moved to the side for pocket purposes) and since it's covered by the apron, can be worn overlapping or gaping open without an issue, accommodating for body changes. There are many similar styles of wrapping skirts (like southern Russian poneva/понева, Ukrainian plakhta/плахта or Csángó katrinca), and many more styles of adjustable dress like sarafany, I don't want this comment to get too long, but they should be easy to research if anyone is interested (aside from possibly katrinca).
Loved this video. Fun fact: “pollera” is also the generic term for a skirt in Argentina. Also, one of the reasons for tied closures is they were less likely to get damaged on the laundry process.
This video made me excited for sawing again. I love the idea of adjustable clothing, because I gained weight and could not get myself back into my old favourites and I don't have the patience and money to replace them. This could change my wardrobe, but in a good way. :D
One year my button club had to host the yearly convention for the 4 clubs in our state. I pushed the theme Fads, Fashions and Fasteners. I did only a bit of research, and found quite a big area of fasteners , zippers, pins, buttons, ties , etc. we Had a fashion show of all the clothing we had or could find. One elderly woman brought her grandmothers dress, and one woman brought her graduation dress from the 1940s. I found dresses from the 60s, 70sand of course the great 1980s! But the most surprising garment was a straight skirt and a ‘tent top’ from the 1950s and the cut out and tie waist for the belly. I was shocked.
Apron skirt makes sense to me, I am not sure because i haven't started looking at the patterns yet, just the embroidery but this is how the Norwegian bunad (national dress) is constructed. These are super expensive and the one you get at 16(?) Is meant to last your lifetime with minimal alterations (as far as I can tell).
Despite not being a historian or cultural historian, I think you did a really good job! Thanks for being respectful and not appropriative of cultures not your own and asking for help! Now I want to see if I can adapt the idea to trousers, as I'm not keen on skirts other than maxi/peasant styles, I really love palazzo pants and other trousers with high waists and straight or wide legs.
@@liav4102 do you happen to remember the name of the video or have a link? My ADHD brain doesn't always do very well with processing information on screens, so I had trouble finding it in her list of videos.
I have made 2 basic split side/tie on petticoats from a bedsheets and then lost 30 lbs. They still fit and they have helped me continue wearing my now too big dresses since the fullness of the skirt fills out the skirt of the dress and the cinched tie around my waist makes it feel fitted. I'm considering making some tie up outer skirts now since while I'm glad to have lost weight I know it may return in future seasons of life. Having adjustable clothing is as satisfying as finishing a quilt- its done and it will stay done and can be used for a long time. Thanks for the video!
This is such a wonderful collection of information. Thank you for the time you have spent on this subject and for sharing your findings with the world 🌸
It was the Adjustable waist that caught my eye. My weight fluxuates and I don't buy clothes all that often, so having anything that is adjustable is a plus to me. Good video. Thanks!
I wanted to add in on the discussion, specifically around the Hakama, as someone who has about 85% completed mostly hand-sewing a bifurcated hakama for myself (one day I will complete it, i swear), I just wanted to point out that the traditional styling of a woman's hakama with kimono actually does diminish the ability for one's kimono to function as basically one giant pocket. the reason I say this is because it covers up the obi, which is these days often used as a pocket depending on how the tie is fashioned at the back (or occasionally front) of the outfit. I have seen people demonstrate the ability to use various parts of the kimono as a pocket, including specific obi knots being used to enclose purses etc, which i think is just really damn cool! that being said, Hakama definitely is great for walking like a badass.
Ukrainian traditional skirts - plakhta (s) - were also constructed this way, with two separate panels. You tie the back one first, then the front. Fluffy, full traditional skirts had different designs - with the gap you tie on the front and then cover with the front panel and apron.
Part of the problem of finding specific pieces or sources these days is that google has been rendered almost useless by SEO and other changes. Time was you could google "apron skirt" with the quotes and find exactly what you needed.
I am so intrigued by this idea. I like your style. "I'm not a historian, but here's what I found. Make of it what you will" I should give it a go someday. One can always find some cheap sheets at the thrift shop for mockups. Thanks again
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"I don't use patterns, I just wing it" *me, who is currently winging an entire blouse from memory, quietly hits subscribe* "yep, found my people" 😂
Yaaaaaaaaaaaay the winging it community grows!!
That was where I subscribed as well.
That is going to be me when I get more confident as well 😂
I don't have money for online patterns, so we'll have to go by eye.
I hit subscribe when I saw this comment.
😂 and I can't "wing it" to save my life! 😂 You go 👍
If you haven't already, a lot of libraries allow you to "rent a librarian." You get a time slot where you tell them what you're working on and they'll help you research it. Librarians are fantastic at helping you find the information you want, and asking the questions you didn't consider.
I'd never heard of that, that's awesome! Thanks for sharing!
That's amazing!!
Me, coming in for the third time that week: What's the solidity point of mineral oil?
The library staff: we'll draw straws
Had no idea, I thought librarians did that anyway
Just subscribed for the same reason! Patterns annoyed me, and being a 1970s hippie and belly dancer, I made a lot of patternless clothing. In the 1980s I became a historical recreationist. There generally were no patterns. I like your style and plan to make a skirt like this. ✌🖖
In the late 1950's my parents and I visited Mexico where, among other things, they bought a skirt for me. It is a circle skirt, open on both sides from waist to about mid hip. The waist band from the back came around and hooks in front on tabs long enough to replace the hooks as I grew. The front waist band comes to tie in the back. It was long enough to grow with me for six full summers. It grew up with my daughter and again with my granddaughters. It is awaiting the next generation.
What kind of cloth is it made of?
I was going to say this is basically a reinvention of the Mexican circle skirt from the 40s and 50s. I've had several of them, being a big fan of vintage clothing for years. Although the pockets weren't quite as big as these, they were big!
@@2degucitas They're made of cotton. Usually with an interesting print, often hand-painted and embellished with sequins.
@@2degucitas cotton. The type which bed sheets are made of. Very lovely pictures of children playing were drawn on it using crayons, yes they survived well, each drawing having been ironed to permanence.
Hey I have the same story only for me it was the 1970s..lol mine has a bunch of bright embroidered flowers on it and we have a matching top. I only had son's, but I have a granddaughter. She loves to put it on and swirl around..lol
In terms of big weight fluctuations - V. Birchwood did an interview on how pregnancy was handled, back in the day, and that definitely was a significant factor in why European *women's* clothing in particular was fairly adjustable (even in periods where menswear really was not). A person could basically handle *most* of a pregnancy in just their normal clothing, all the way through the end of the 1830s. Basically, people were pregnant often enough - and clothing was expensive enough - that having a separate maternity wardrobe really wasn't a viable option for most people.
I was just coming here to point out V. Birchwood's video!
Not to mention common memes about how women live in maternity clothes after baby 3 😂
I will have to check it out! I am currently pregnant, about 2 months, and I could probably still wear my corsets for chronic back pain, for now, but I haven't decided to risk it, and imagine as we progress my body will have aches that would benefit from safe supportive garments.
Enchanted Rose made a maternity corset and talks about them.
@@ERYN__@abbycox is a dress historian focused on 18th century. Check out her channel for info. Also Lucy corsetry did a video about wearing corsets herself during her pregnancy.
Having worn wrap pants (not hakama) almost regularly in my teens, I can tell you there's a very practical reason skirts tie on back first, but pants tie on front first. Saves having to completely remove a garment to use the bathroom
Ooooooo I love that you said that because I definitely hadn't consider it at all! Now I'm keeping that in mind for future wrap pants projects!
Oh yes. It's FUN trying to deal with that in a public bathroom with not so clean floors 😅.
That's sensible!
Those are "thai pants", and uep, it´s for bathroom bussiness.
This makes sense how period cloths were handled! Too! Like I saw a clothing history videos on it and it just didn't make sense to rummage with all the layers of skirt. However when the front is openable, it's really a simple thing to change on your cloth holding suspension
Yes, the reason why clothing manufacturers don't make adjustable clothing is obvious, but, the fabric they use is so flimsy their garments wouldn't last more than a couple of years anyway. That's one of the many reasons I sew my own - because I sew with much better fabric, the trousers I made 12 years ago are still in good condition even with weekly wearing & washing. My mother made adjustable clothing for herself so she could get through all 8 pregnancies without buying special 'maternity' clothing - but then she was a child of the Great Depression and WWII, could look at a picture of a dress and chalk out the pattern pieces on the fabric (paper was precious) and a few hours later be wearing a great frock, because that was what her family did to get by. We all wore adjustable clothing as children through the 60's & 70's because hand-me-downs didn't always work - children even in the same family have different shapes and grow at different rates. Our clothes were adjusted mostly by clever folds or sets of pleats held in place by buttons & buttonholes that were moved further apart as we expanded, and triple thickness hems that were lowered as we shot up. My mother was also knitting top-down way back then - it is so much easier to lengthen the pullover of a growing child if you just need to unravel the ribbed hem and sleeves, add in a few rows, and reknit the ribbing. It's also an opportunity to replace worn yarn. As always, the current generation is rediscovering the wisdom and ingenuity their parents discarded in favour of the new technology 😊
My grandma's depression era moto. "Use it up. wear it out make it do or do without." Making clothes from the flour bags that companies thoughtfully made in numerous patterns. Clothing was mostly homemade to 'make it do' for handing down and growing 'into' not 'out of'. Extra wide pleated side seams and mid backs and grandma's favorite. an inner ruffle that could be let out adding up to 5 extra inches to the length. Every sewer had their favorite ways of making maternity and children's clothing.
Re:Flour sack fabric. MyMother was born in 1921. At 14yrs old she sewed and embroidered a set of white flour sack dishtowels. She used them all through my childhod to dry dishes and when I married in 1964, she gave them to me I am still using those flour sack towels to dry dishes and to cover my bread dough when it is rising and to cover my baked goods as they cool. and to dust with flour and roll out pie crusts etc.They are large and lightweight and show no signs of wear inspite of 90yrs of contant use. and laundering. It is impossible to find cotton fabric like that anywhere today.
@@prarieborn6458 Wow! i knew she sewed with them and wore out clothes for 7 kids with them, and made quilts with the fabric she could save from the worn out clothes, but 90 years of use! I say again...WOW!
@@prarieborn6458. I’m impressed, too! I’d love to see a photo of those towels.
Did she do anything in particular to hide the first hem crease when letting a hem down? Also, that knitting top down is genius!
You might also be interested in the traditional Chinese skirt style called Mǎmiànqún. They tie around the waist, but the splits in the skirt are in the front and back! Pleats at the sides and overlapping panels in front and back ensures that you stay covered. This skirt style allows for for example horseback riding 😄
I just finished watching a Chinese historical drama series (Chef Hua) and was fascinated with the clothing. The women's clothing appeared to be a blouse with loose pants as basic wear, then a tie-on skirt, over-jacket, and sometimes, a long thin 'coat' over that. The fabric for the women's skirts looked to be silk. Very flowing and light, and multiple layers.
@@lynnbetts4332 I was reading about some historical stuff and it seemed that in around 1910s, some of the Taiwanese people were very against ladies wearing trousers as outer wear as they were seen as underwear (as you said, trousers were wore under skirts)!
The horse face skirt is such a clever and stylish skirt! I really want to make one, but I don't have any Chinese heritage.
@@aprillen It doesn't matter if you don't have Chinese heritage, we Chinese don't care about appropriation, if you like and enjoy it then all is good and we are happy you find our designs great.
@@oxvendivil442 Thank you so much for saying that! I know that some people of Chinese heritage in the west feel differently, though. I wouldn't want to hurt anyone's feelings! I'm very interested in traditional and historical clothing, though, and I think many styles of hanfu are super beautiful!
"wrap skirts and dresses aren't really that adjustable"
THANK YOU. I (used to have) a pronounced hourglass figure, and a wrap skirt or dress that fit my waist would often open up all the way up my leg if I sat or crouched. So many of the retail ones (and patterns) have very little overlap.
Ditto for surplice tops -- it's not really adjustable if the neckline ends below your navel 😊
YES @gadgetgirl02 - they may call them "wrap". but they barely close! I think basically designed to flash people! (But more likely because of producers being cheap about fabric use).
In the 70s I was so skinny. I made my beige denim wrap skirt without a pattern, therefore the two back panels completely overlapped. I made it with 2 patch pockets that each had a second "secret pocket" under the fringed flap. I wore it to my office job, traveled all over Europe on a Eurrail pass, tucking all kinds of quick-grab travel necessities into the "4" pockets.
Loved, loved, loved that skirt! In the 80s we started a family, and I got a little bit thicker, but could still wear my beloved wrap skirt; in the 90s my Mom died and grief made me downright fat. My wrap skirt became an apron 🤣, and I treasure it still, but no longer wear it.
Now, 4 years ago at the insistance of my daughter I too made a long gored skirt (no pattern needed) for a formal dress occasion for my husband's & my once-in-a-lifetime Cunard line ocean voyage. But underweigh I soon discovered that, although formal was required for some shipboard events, there were plenty of casual options. So I never bothered unpacking the formal outfit, eschewed all formal activities, and stuck to my routine comfort of jeans.
Still, I wish I had seen your video at the time my daughter started going on about formal dress!
Clothes that keep one covered Can still be found IF one Wants to be Covered
@@jamietanksley3113 Yes, thank you, that's not actually the topic of this discussion.
@@jamietanksley3113 That can be really difficult for people with some body types, so maybe don't?
A family story from my grandma about those open front maternity skirts with the tie above the belly: when my great grandma was in one of her pregnancies, she wore one of those to a basketball game that one of her older kids was playing in. When she stood up to cheer, the little lace came untied and the skirt stayed behind.
I remember my Mom telling me that her doctors told her not to gain more than 14 lbs while pregnant and as a secretary she had to wear a girdle the entire pregnancy. I still find it mind boggling that me and my brothers survived. This was why the pregnancy patterns at the time did not show visibly pregnant women.
That's so messed up. My MIL told me with great pride she didn't gain more than 20 lbs. in her pregnancies. How?
This always boggles my mind! When my mom was pregnant with my sister in 1969, her doctor started harping on her at the 10-pound mark. She literally went on a diet WHILE PREGNANT.
I'm 62. When my mother was pregnant with my brother in 1955, her doctor made her take amphetamines to prevent weight gain. She gained 6 pounds. He suffered from mental illness and died young from idiopathic kidney disease which means they didn't know why his kidneys failed. Hmmm.
@@jebsmith323 I'm so sorry that happened to your family :(
@@jebsmith323 That's awful!!!
That is one of the most surprising things i have found in the seamstress and marker industry. The lack of real creativity. A pattern gives you a base for what you have in mind to create. Take that base pattern (any pattern that comes closest) then tweak is the way you want. People forget that they can mix patterns pieces to help with your creativity. A friend of mine had a child with a strong OCD for fabric labels (the loop kind). He wore out a small blanket with one. I made him a blanket with his favorite theme then added trim. Fabric Label loops all the way around it. He LOVE IT! He never wore it out and you couldn’t tell the loops were heavily worked because he had so many to choose from. And kept it with him for years. They moved away some years ago and don’t know if he still has it.
"Workwoman's Guide” (1838) says ”Skirts are generally made with the opening behind, but for elderly
persons or servants, it is at the sides, the seams being left unsewed for about four nails from the top
sometimes they are furnished with pockets on one or both sides ...”. (A nail is 1/16th of a yard.)
Oo thank you for sharing that! I love that the assumption is that servants (makes sense) and the elderly need pockets... what about everyone else?? XD
@@gettheetothestitchery And servants need closures they can do themselves (not lace in the back!) The ladies maid doesn’t have a ladies maid to lace up her skirts in the back! (Maybe the elderly didn’t have maids either, or just needed easier fastening in general.)(Velcro sneakers, gramma?)
Thank you for sharing! That would explain why it hasn't been as talked about as much (as far as light research showed). It's not fashion for the ladies, but practical wear foe women who worked.
@@carlamiagm not even all the middle class has enough servants to have one dressing you in the morning. I think the implication is that the elderly are less flexible and may find it harder to tie behind. An alternative explanation though is that ties at the side was the prior fashion that elderly were accustomed to.
@@DeniseSkidmore Most American women in 1838 didn't have servants.
tbh i clicked on this video because of the pollera (the typical panamanian dress) on the thumbnail. since i was a kid i've worn this dress, mostly the skirt in school while learning about my my culture and never thought about how genius it was. Thank you for changing my perspective, now i want to make one for the daily in my style honoring long lasting clothes!
I love that so much! Thank you for sharing!
What a fantastic idea! Please post the finished product :)
So the question is, does it tie on the same as the other skirts? Can we have an explanation if it is different. I am finding this fascinating. Thank you in advance.
Holy crap! Listening with ear bud while doing housework. I heard the magical words… adjustable, huge pockets and optimum swoosh. I had to stop working, restart the video and yes, have my mind blown. Then I was watching alone (except for my dogs) exclaiming out loud … holy crap! WTF! What kinda of witchery is this!!! Now I love you. I’m starting my skirt this afternoon and using up some of my stash of yards of fabric for quilting and yes… my repurchasing goodwill vintage tablecloths etc. THANK YOU!!!
I used to have a historic sewing business and everyone loved the 18th c. split side petticoats. Not everyone loved all the ties that go into them, especially once you layer all the various bits & bobs. This is what made the stays (not a corset, different garment, similar function) so important. The stays hold the weight of the skirts. This is what makes that wide laced panel so fantastic, plus getting rid of the ties for the pockets - it's fabulous.
I can tell you as a former professional costume researcher & historic seamstress, who has looked at well-researched examples from dozens of museums, extant garments, documentation in ads and dressmakers shops, the ties were either self-fabric tubes (rarely) or twill tape (common) for the waistbands. The fabric was folded over to suit the height of the person with the band stitched on and replaced as needed. The reason the focus is on the pleating is because that's what changed in fashion; sometimes it's gathered then pleated, sometimes it's box pleats, sometimes knife pleats, sometimes big, sometimes small.
We just called it a 2 panel petticoat, or 18th c. style petticoat. If you call it a skirt nothing is going to come up in Google (which is good & broken now anyway), because that's a much more modern term, and not applied to that garment until much later.
Yes, adjustability was critically important in the 18th c. because a person may only own 2 or 3 outfits. Women spent large parts of their lives pregnant, weight fluctuated with the seasons & gains and losses were common. Even the highly fitted garments are deceptively adjustable with hidden laced panels, drawstrings, overlaps, etc. Just about the only thing that got fitted were the sleeves, and boy were they tailored to within an inch of your life. The men's garments even had lace-up panels to make them fitted when they weren't truly fitted.
Fascinating, thanks for sharing!
I love that when you discuss history you didn't just refer to European dress history, fantastic
The hakama pants were also commonly worn by women back in the Heian era. many noble women held positions in court working and managing everything on a day to day basis. The fashion of the time was layers and the Junihutoe 十二単 (literal translation : twelve layers) was an outfit constructed from a un-dyed hitoe which is like a kimono robe and the hakama pants as the undergarment, the uchigi robes (apparently the maximum was ten layers), the uchiginu which was a stiffer robe to support all the layers, the uwagi which was shorter than the other robes, the mo a train skirt and the karaginu which was a jacket. The women expressed their style by the way they layered colors and patterns and their blend of incense perfume. The Junihutoe went out of style after the Heian (peaceful) era and after 400+ years of civil war the fashion changed so much that only the people in the little bubble that was the imperial court dressed the same
The maternity clothing from the 40’s and 50’s really struck a note with me. A while ago I was chatting with my Gran (who is now 96) and we got onto the topic of my cousin’s pregnancy. She told us how she was shocked our cousin had shown off her belly as ‘that just wasn’t the done thing and quite unseemly’ when she was younger. She did go on to acknowledge that the way fashion and attitudes changed over the years baffled her in places. But that memory will always stick because it was interesting to see how society has such an impact on the people within it to the point where ingrained world views can’t be left behind. My gran didn’t mean anything nasty about her comments, but her views on maternity clothing really are a product of the world she grew up in.
My mother's maternity skirts had an actual hole for the belly. Strung ties like shoelaces to hold skirt up as waist changed. It floored me to find the 2 outfits still hanging in her closet when she died, 48 years later!!! I wish she passed them on when I was carrying in 1978 and 1982. Her clothes were 100 % cotton and well made. All I could find were polyester tents ,very uncomfortable in Louisiana sticky heat;
I got to visit Panama many years ago on an exchange program and my insight into their polleras as a traditional garment is it's definitely viewed as a right of passage. Every woman would love to have her own pollera, unique to her with its embroidered motifs and the coordinating adornments that complete the costume, but these articles can be prohibitively expensive to commission: Moreso it's common within the community to see private collections and a mix of the socially privileged and benevolent matriarchs who want to honour tradition and may give or lease the opportunity for their pieces to be worn for an event or simply for the opportunity that a woman can say I too have worn my country's dress.
Therefore, as a costume, it's utterly practical that a piece should be adjustable to many altered sizes. Compared to many of the women I met in the country I was bigger and taller and I met a grand old señora whose collection included maybe 14 complete pollera skirts and bodices, not to mention the coordinating ties and innumerable beaded and gold plated hair pins to style your hair just so!... She graciously offered for me to wear one of her dresses as an experience and all of my friends were gathered as I was paraded on foot from the señora's house to my host's grandmother's house (a very long, hot walk beneath all the material of the skirt)!... This act alone brought a lot of pride to my host family who could not have afforded this experience for me... So ultimately, there's a quiet genius and dignity in the dress's adjustable construction to extend the life of these amazing pieces to many wearers as a matter of national pride and preservation of their connection to deep and rich roots.
What a lovely story! And so very lucky you are to have had the experience.
I love that! What an incredible experience to have, and thank you so much for sharing!
Hi! I have croatian roots, and I made and embroidered my own "nošnja" (nosh-niah) traditional fron region of Slavonia (were my dad was born) and had to do a lot of research. One of the books I had lucky enough to read, full of illustrations, photos and detailed drawings of the garments, and the skirts and petticoats had split tied waistbands. That is very common since young girls started to embroider them and those traditional garments were used by generations, not only the original owner throughout her entire life
My mother and sister need adaptive clothing due to handicaps. I’m always trying to figure out how to close things without zippers, velcro (which messes up while washing), snaps, etc. I loved all of your information! I love research, too, but hit a wall. Thank you so much!
I'm so glad it was helpful to you!!
Would D-rings be an option? I have a relative hate/hate relationship with Velcro! It is hard to sew through, and constantly getting itself stuck on everything you don’t want it on! With my father I found going to larger buttons (5/8”) was enough to make buttoning his shits easier.
For looser fitting, fiddly, mostly decorative stuff I use...magnets. For closer fitting things -d rings and straps and lacing. Once I accepted defeat with all the 00 and other tiny human/child sizes clothing I owned (after years of starvation), and figuring I don't want to thrift a new wardrobe, I just attached lacing to ...a lot of stuff, and it looks and feels... Great. One can always loosen the clothing if it becomes uncomfortable. Same with d-rings and rows of alternative buttons for waistbands. And drawstrings! Drawstrings with a good,soft cord and maybe a stopper, depending on particular individual's tastes and abilities. Sensory disability people seem to do well with adjustable items. Regarding zippers, I replaced a lot of zipper handles on my grandma's clothing - she can still use them comfortably with her arthritis at 97!
@@margodphdThank you for the ideas. As needs change, I love having new options!❤
@@lilolmecjThank you for more ideas. Can’t have too many❤
I cosplayed as Rurouni Kenshin in February, and I can tell you that hakama are some of the most comfortable trouser-type garments out there.
I fully agree! I have also cosplayed Kenshin quite often in a home made getup (hakama pattern from Folkwear) and I've played Japanese inspired characters at LARP in kimono and hakama. Especially at a LARP, these clothes are quite good at keeping you warm. Although I did cheat a bit with one character making a 'winter version' of her kimono and haori in synthetic fleece fabric (wool could also have worked but is quite expensive on a student's budget).
I have too, those hakama were awesome and the first thing I thought of when she showed the double tieing skirt.
I'm jumping on the "secret pants" bandwagon and mine will be hakama based because I've already made several (I do martial arts, used the Budo Bear pattern), the only thing I hate about them is all the fuss to use a toilet (especially with gi pants underneath) so I was thinking about how to make mine easier to wear by making side laces instead of ties. But now I'm starting to reconsider that, maybe I'll figure out how to tie them more sensibly that we do for Aikido or Iaido...
@@bunhelsingslegacy3549 the hakama pattern I used has you tie the back flap on last and with shorter ties, so I've never had a problem with that. I've never worn the Aikido ones though.
@@bunhelsingslegacy3549 I never wore a hakama at aikido. I never got to shodan grade which was required to be allowed to wear one at this dojo. At some point my knees and my mind were suffering. Being neurodivergent, work had gotten to demanding to be able to focus at evening dojo sessions.
But when I wear one for cosplay, I first tie the front panel. Then put up the backside and tuck the ribbon from the upside into the belt, pull them down and tie them in front.
When I need the bathroom, I always sit down so it's a matter of untying the front, pull the backside down and sit on the toilet.
I actually got a little bit into historical fashion some time ago and was on to something because I thought "omg, I HAVE to make skirts (and dresses) inspired by this, because I'm always gaining weight and this would be perfect!" but then the Coquelicot Skirt came around and I am SO happy that someone just did this and I don't have to wing it myself. I immediately bought the pattern even tho I never used a pattern before, but sometimes it's just nice to be a little bit lazy. xD Love this pattern!
This has been a recent area of research for me as well as no waste sewing. I've done historical re-enactment for 27 years so I had some familiarity with split sided petticoats and drawstring petticoats. I've also done Viking age tunics(bog coats) with square cut construction. I wore my Viking age tunics through my pregnancy, although the hem hiked up in the front as I got hugely pregnant (my son was almost nine pounds when he was born). I was also able to breastfeed relatively easily in them as well. I do a lot of sewing without a pattern or by drafting my own. My old Vogue sewing book has a chart of wearing ease to write into the patterns so it fits comfortably. I can remember a few years ago I lost 55 pounds in six months (divorce and single parenting) and even though I couldn't even afford thrift shop prices I had to get all new clothes and it wasn't easy. I had two pairs of pants for the longest time and a bunch of my old, now baggy t-shirts to wear. I would have killed to have clothes that would have adjusted and saved me the expense. I've been looking at gradually replacing my wardrobe with items made of natural fabrics (durability and compostability at the end of useable life) with as little waste as possible and as multisized as possible. I have seen some really awful zero waste designs and I know from my own sewing that it doesn't have to be that way.
This video somehow stung a note with me, especially the final question. I do know a culture that wears a kind of split skirt - though it's actually two apron-style skirts worn one in the back and another one in the front, neither one reaching around the whole body.
I was born and grew up inancient Czechoslovakia, in the part that's now the Czech Republic but close to the Slovakian border (the region is sometimes called Moravian Slovakia in English). The traditional costume in my Mum's native village, that I have worn myself on special occasions, consists of a sheath-like underdress, covered on top by a short ("cropped" would be the modern term) shirt, basically puff sleaves tied in the front worn under an embroidered waistcoat or vest. The mid-section of the underdress was usually exposed, and had an embroidered band.
On the bottom you'd wear two apron-like skirts, one in the back tied in the front, usually single-colour (mostly yellow or orange) and pleated, and another one in the front tied all around the waist with decorative ribbons, the skit was usually white and heavily embroidered. It might look like an apron worn over a pleated skirt, but it wasn't that.
The under-dress was usually longer and had an embroidered band at the bottom that was seen. When you walked normally the skirts would remain "closed" but if you danced and spun around the underskirt would be seen.
I had one such costume made when I was around five. We also had two full adult-sized costumes that I would wear when I grew up. The size wouldn't matter, the only problem would be the underdress and the waistcoat that closed by hooks (it was always too loose for me, I was skinny), but the rest was tied on and hence adjustable and people would actually borrow it from neighbours ("I need this part for a village festivity, do you have one?") and I have NEVER heard anyone comment on the size!
I haven't had the costume on since I was maybe 15, but my parents keep them. I should try them on, I guess the waistcoat will fit me snuggly now, which is the right look ;-)
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Thank you so much for sharing this information! It's always such a joy to hear firsthand from someone about something I've been researching, so this info is invaluable!
I know they do not have pockets, but I absolutely love my Sari wrap skirts as they are highly adjustable and can be worn many ways. I've also been completely converted to wearing corsets as they are also very adjustable, even on a day to day basis such as wearing it a bit looser if feeling a bit bloated or tighter for back and diaphragm support if you need it. Its really nice to see how there are enough of us now that are looking at and preferring adjustable clothing to the demands of the ever changing fast fashion world.
This old lady didn't understand all the fuss over the Coquelicot skirt - just thought it was a more complicated wrap skirt- and while I still don't think it's the most amazing thing ever, at least now I understand the fascination and the architecture.
The most brilliant piece of adjustable clothing I ever owned is also hard to find info about on the internet - at least when I looked in the past. In the late 80s or early 90s, there was a line of clothes by Richard Simmons, the fitness guru. Pleated dress trousers were a popular look, and his brilliant design not only included these buttonable extension tabs on the sides, but there was a stretchy lining panel (lycra? spandex?) running from side seam (behind pockets) to zipper placket, so you had the smoothest tummy and perfect pleats. Nothing makes pleated plants look worse than having your tummy bulge out and expand them. Yes, these were made out of horrible polyester that I vowed as a child to never wear, and pleated trousers probably haven't been stylish since then, but I'd still buy them today if I found them lol.
I remember those pants! Mine weren't from Richard Simmons, but I do remember that panel.
A RUclipsr: Abbie Cox, is a fashion historian, and she has explained, shown and worn these garments a number of times on her channel.
I was going to see if anyone else mentioned Abby.
@@smovakpro Yeah, but I think I spelt her name wrong, I think it's Abby rather than Abbie.
Late to the party, but this is a fantastic video. I noted that you commented that there weren't non-satirical drawings earlier than Harper's. As a reenactor of the American War for Independence, I can tell you that there are a plethora of them! These illustrations are called" Fashion Plates" and were all the rage! Another excellent source for 18th century everyday clothing is the engravings by William Hogarth. I love that you included this concept in other cultures. Thank-you so much!
Thanks! I'll definitely be looking up William Hogarth!
My Navy Uncle sent my Mom and I skirts from Mexico. They were open on both sides, with attached pockets, but the slit on either side could access secondary pockets if they were needed. Loved that skirt to the end, and have based many skirts like her since.
I am a huge Kimono Nerd, and have been for quite some time. Think about it: Japan is an *island.* An island about the size of California. Maybe 1/3 is habitable by humans, and less is farm-able. You want "sustainable?" lol look at Japan. Every single thing gets used, all the time, before Meiji era (American industrialization era.) Fabric was often woven by hand in middle classes from hemp, or eventually there was this New fabric from India: cotton! Silks were labour intensive and made in different grades. All dyes were also made by hand, an extremely intensive process. These different industries meant everyone working together (for the most part) because everyone needed this stuff.
And fabric wasn't wasted. You couldn't just go to Jo-Ann's and get more fabric that was made 80" wide in a factory in China, which took 20 minutes to produce and a few hours to fly to America. Depending on fabric, including yarn thickness, weaving type, weaving materials, dye, etc, you might wait months or a YEAR to get new fabric. Wasting fabric seems to be a European thing probably because we had land to be able to make so much of it. In Japan, it's costly to import. It isn't even "new" to kimono construction to make them adjustable. Just the opposite! Yukata (cotton ultra casual kimono, like for saunas and summer festivals) are NOW made "to size." Before, everything is rectangles. Making a kimono means sewing seams to width you want and folding flat excess fabric. Like felling, but without cutting anything extra. *Duh?* When it gets washed, it's taken apart and sewn together in a bolt again for washing. Then it is resewn to the new measurement needs. This way, fabric doesn't get too worn from seams only in one side of the fabric, and it fits again. It can be passed on endlessly. I own kimono that are wearable, which are 100 years old. Taisho era. Fabric that is weak can be broken down for anything you like: cushions, decor, towels, toys, eventually ranru or blankets and eventually, burning for fuel. The phrase here is "mottanai": waste nothing.
It just makes ~sense.~ Comparatively British-area culture had this attitude of waste. Carried out into America, where we again have SO MUCH LAND, waste. We don't tie rough mats made of the cut down palm fronds here around trees in winter, so that bugs burrow into the mats instead of in trunks, but then we complain of our trees being insect-infested. We dump clothing straight to landfills or to Ghana, killing the people and wildlife there, because we won't use tie-on waistbands or sew a button back on. And here in the city, it's culturally unacceptable and unfeasable because of people-decided regulations that we can't have composting here. There are CLOSED compost bins, even! They don't hold much, but nope. Even though many, many people rent instead of own here, can't have those. So throw everything away. ... why do we have so many problems with landfills? I just don't understand. (sarcasm)
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I do historical reenactment and my Californio enaguas ( petticoat) are made with panels sewn to a waistband ties and I love it. When I made it I was 20 pounds lighter and it still fits fine. It never occurred to me to make every day skirts that way. Facepalm moment.
As a historian I appreciate your “disclaimer” at first - AND you saying how you get to your info by using deductions and common sense ❤ - THIS is actually a big part of history and science in general😅…Thank you for being so good at explaining how you do your sewing (and research)😃
"its just bad business, but i love bad business" is a quote i never thought id be so delighted to hear
Ah, at last I found someone researching clothing not requiring modern fasteners. Thank you for the hours you put in for us.
I didn't know Mexican folkloric skirts were side split style before elastic, and I live here! 😂
The super full skirt is that expensive because it's for traditional dances at festivities and professional shows, the daily wear ones our traditional communities wear are not that full, and frequently default to prints instead of embroidery.
They're also mostly elasticated now.
I took up belly dancing for awhile. I am very large, and was having trouble finding full skirts to dance in that were large enough, long enough, and affordable, as I am on disability. Our community has a lot of latin and Mexican people, so thrifting is sometimes fun. On such a trip, I found a split side Mexican skirt that would fit if I just regathered it a little farther out on the ties. It's beautiful, has enough length, and is very swirly, so it is perfect for dance. I'm very grateful to the person who decided to donate it, and say a little thank you each time I wear it.
OMG!!!! I’m born and raised Colombian and holy smokes when you said Polleras I screamed!!!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂 yasssss hunny! I’m here for all this content. Also, I’ve been dying to learn how to make a decent pollera 🥲🥲🥲
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Yes, the first time I saw this, I immediately thought about Colonial Williamsburg and 18th Century skirts and petticoats. A new take on 18th C skirts. With integrated pockets! (BRILLIANT!!) Nothing is ever really new, it just recurs. Love your take on it.
(Oh, and don't believe the article that says that people had to get completely naked just to access their pockets. Such rediculousness.)
So, yeah, maybe come join us over here on the Historical CosTubing side of things. We have research, and grand balls, and delightful food.
AND YES! I can TOTALLY relate to You can't research a thing because you don't have the name of the thing because, apparently, it was such a non-thing that no one even mentions it AND yet! there it is cuz every one uses the blasted thing and I really need to find a pattern or a clue or a hint other than this very vague picture!
I was very specifically looking for patterns from 1882 to 1884. The Natural Form Dress era was certainly a thing, but good luck trying to find the name "underskirt." Yes, it was that simple and yet, so frustratingly hard. It took me weeks of hunting, only to stumble across the term quite by accident. And when I did -- VOILA! Patterns! The Natural Form Era was a moment when everything changed drastically, but the world just seems to gloss over it because it snapped back from those years with sassier bustles.
It's so crazy to me (and yet completely understandable) that so much information can be lost to time because it just seems so basic and boring to people in the moment! Makes me think I should start cataloguing anything that I take for granted for posterity... XD
@@gettheetothestitchery This is why many historians love people who kept really detailed diaries with inane details that no one otherwise would care about. There's so much we don't know about people in the past because for them it was common knowledge and they didn't bother writing it down.
Once upon a time I had a skirt pattern which fastened at the side pocket. It was adjustable over a couple of sizes as the pocket hid the changed size - up to a point. In the 80s and 90s Maternity pants had a row of snaps at the side pocket in the same way, only they were also elastic-waisted and ugly. Megan Nielsen Patterns has both a trouser and a skirt with a side-pocket closure. Also, Folkwear patterns have a number of wrap/tie garments from all over the world. Simplicity also made a "wrap pant" pattern maybe in the late 1970s which was reprinted recently.
I made this skirt but had an unforeseen problem. With 2.5 yards of fabric and 39” length, it is heavy. So when tied on it sat above my hips and back but over time the front sagged. Becoming a tripping hazard. This is what corsets were for. I now wear this black skirt when I play in orchestra with my corset and a loose black blouse. I received compliments!
Retired orchestra musician here: I always wore the same long black skirt with different blouses so I had some options for those 4 performances in a week that didn't cost the whole paycheck. The skirt was made with a bit of elastic in the back as well as 3 sets of skirt hooks to adjust as needed.
Late to the party (as always), but a great over-view. I did have to chuckle a bit when you talked about the wrap skirts, though. You see, when I was ... I think it was in my early teens (late '70s) I had a wrap skirt that A) was reversible, B) had functional pockets, C) was adjustable to a point, and D) didn't threaten to expose me with the slightest of breezes.
Needless to say, it was quite a shock when, many years later, my next wrap skirt had _none_ of those things.
The trick with it was partly in the piecing, and in how it was fastened. To look at the pattern (no, I don't think Mom still has that pattern, more's the pity), it looked like just about any A-line skirt... just with two identical fronts. You could possibly have removed one and made it into a standard A-line with a side fastening... once you changed method of doing so. The pockets were sewn into the side seams. The fastening was a long, maybe inch wide band that went the length of the waist plus a decent amount on each side to wrap and tie with. The key was, in essence, a button hole set in the band lined up with the skirt seam. To put the skirt on, you would wrap the back and "under" front on, feed the tie through the button hole, then bring up the "over" front and fasten the ties at the back. The ties were long enough that if you needed a little extra room, you would just tie it looser. The full under-panel allowed for a bit of expansion before being dangerous in a breeze...
Thinking about it now, I do see one flaw with it. It was adjustable for an increasing size, but would be a bit bunchy for a decreasing size. The benefit of having a full under-panel means that there would always be a minimum size limitation.
Of course, having just typed that, my brain is now shoving possible fixes that while not being perfect, could at least be less awkward... like moderately (2 inch?) "belt" loops spaced along the back half of the skirt, to help slightly gather any extra waistline while keeping the look fairly clean.
And now I have to at least make a mini-mock-up, or the silly brain will not shut up. =chuckles=
Oo see that seems like a really good wrap skirt! Thank you for explaining it so well - I can picture exactly what you mean, and yeah, I think your fixes would allow it to size down as well as up super well!
I had a skirt just like that in the early 1980's. It was comfortable and didn't expose you like the more recent wrap skirts do.
Butterwick pattern with belly cutout: I think that might be to allow an a-line skirt draping without the belly distorting the fall of the fabric. Also makes it easier to have an even bottom to the hem since the belly won't be pulling up the material in front.
This is amazing for me I'm so glad this kind of skirt is trending right now. I bloat like a dead whale the moment I eat anything at all and elastic waistbands are the devil. Forget about years, I need a different size hour by hour!
I feel you! Being able to just loosen that lacing and move on with your day is so nice!
Maybe you should try a FODMAP elimination diet to figure out what food causes the bloating? A friend of mine had this, and didn't realise she was sensitive to gluten - she's a lot more comfortable now she can avoid it!
This may come as unwanted advice, but if you are bloating to the point that you need to adjust clothing (unless it's because you are overeating, that happens) on a regular basis, you might really wanna go see a doc, if you haven't yet. I myself had that too, and thought nothing about it, and it's endometriosis which turns out to be quite common despite being not very known.
As someone who understands you, as I too bloat easily and quickly and not being a licensed doctor I will NOT offer unsolicited advice. I WILL assume you are an intelligent functioning human who knows when something may be out of the ordinary and has ALREADY investigated and determined WHY things happen to your body.
I am hoping I will get up the motivation to make a version of this adjustable garment to allow me to be comfortable any size! 💝
I feel you. I gain up to 4" at the waist, if I eat or drink at all.
YES!!!! FINALLY!!!!!! I have gotten SO SICK of cycling through my whole wardrobe as my weight fluctuates, and being constantly uncomfortable in clothes that don't fit. Clothing options for fat trans guys with texture sensory issues are few and far between, but I've been hesitant to sew my own clothes that fit my tastes because I didn't want weight fluctuations to take out half my wardrobe. I've been wanting adjustable clothing for ages, this is such a great jumping off point for my research, I'm off to make my own pants with a waistband that fits! thank you!!!
In the UK it was once possible to buy maternity trousers which had a flap at the front which was adjustable on each side, at the waist. I suspect it would have been a slider as seen on children's school skirts. This would have been around the seventies.
Having put on weight during Covid and not losing it afterwards has left me very interested in adjustable waistbands. Loved the video, thank you.
I was watching a lot of RUclips videos on historical fashion, one of them mentioned the split side skirt, it blew my mind and I ended up taking a sewing course, and a circle skirt inspired by that method of closure was my first project. Its freaking adorable and quincidentally, I wore it to work today 😊
Saris and salwar chemise are adjustable, and when your host's in-house tailor gets it back from pressing he will take the liberty of adding stitching inseam for larger sizes so all you have to do if something is too snug some day is rip out enough seam for the item to be the next size up. It's wonderful to have clothing that fits you for decades despite multiple pregnancies. Also, wrap skirts work if you keep a separate "pocket belt" to wear under your skirt that has slideable pockets on it.
My pocket belt has become my most treasured accessory. It makes so many more outfits practical.
Very interesting. Much of what you said about adjustability, practicality, and longevity make great sense. Needs to come back.
I feel like when we talk about fashion history, it's only fancy party dresses. I wish I could find a book that was exclusively work/day wear. its like if someone wrote a book on fashion 2000-2020 and only used clothing articles from MET galas and Golden globe awards.
We do tend to be way more fascinated in upscale clothing from all time periods, which, you know... it's fair, that's the fancy, super creative stuff. But we really do need to keep track of and explore the histories of all types of clothing!
YES! I agree. I'm way more interested in historical everyday wear than the frou-frou upper class ball gowns.
I sew appreciate the fact that you not only were honest about your credentials, but gave links and credit where credit was due. It's frustrating when others try and act like they haven't watched Any videos on what they are doing; even more so when they act like they came up with it!
Sew good on you sewing string sister!
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I am so looking forward to the tutorial! I know I'm going to have to make a few! I mentioned to my daughter (13) about the style and how it has huge pockets, and she got very excited. As someone who has dealt with fluctuating weight, this is genius!
Yay!! I can't wait to see what everyone is able to create, and I love that it's a design style that can work for anyone at any age and with any body type!
Also, you should totally reach out to Bernadette Banner and Nicole Rudolph for their input!
The work you put into this video is so appreciated.
I love history research and I am also super lazy 🙌🏻
I don't think I'll ever wear another skirt again 😂 the pocket size, the adjustability and the pure amount of swoosh you can get fills me with a power no woman should have 😂
Thank you for bringing this style to my attention!
Thank you so much for making this video! I bought the coquelicot skirt pattern a few weeks back, so I am so excited to hear that you're doing a process video! Fascinating to hear about all the clever people who have utilized this style across history and geography, and I'm glad it's getting a mini-revival.
You make such a good point about fast fashion's anti-adaptive nature. I've been excited about adaptive clothing in general recently and I think the recently trending paper bag pants also allow for size changes across a lifetime, and I've seen them with a fairly wide tie that echoes the comfort of the wide waistband. (A pair of paper back work slacks might be my next project...)
Oo I love me some paper bag pants and shorts! And they're so easy to make (compared to, you know... other more terrifying pant styles). I have a pair on my to-do list as well!
I used the Coquelicot skirt pattern - I rarely use patterns but this was fun and I wanted to support her. It was worth it. It's great! I made the fuller version *8 panels!! and it's full on swoosh! It's in insanely comfortable and I think the yoke version of the waistband is pure genius.
Yay I love that!!
I recognized the word coquelicot. I read it about 30 years ago in a romance novel by Georgette Heyer. The novel was set in the 1800's and a mother was showing her almost grown daughter a chest of her own clothing from young aculthood that she had saved. One was a couquelicot in stripes.
I don't know that Abby Cox has done a video specifically about the petticoats with splits for pockets, but she is a costume historian and she frequently focuses on the 18th century. So she might be able to weigh in on how common the apron closure vs the drawstring closure was.
Or the gals from Burnley and Trowbridge
As an 18th century reenactor, it’s pretty much understood by the reenacting community that drawstrings were not a thing. We have extant garments from that time period to inspect. Generally speaking there was a box pleat in the front and an inverted box pleat in the back panel.
That was much more interesting than I expected, if you'd been a history teacher when I was at school I would have done history O-Level,. You have a lovely presentation style and a very clear voice - such a relief for someone whose hearing isn't so good these days. I'm now going to watch your tutorial and maybe I will finally find a use for some of the mountain of fabric I've bought over the years but never used because I didn't want to spoil it by cutting it. (Yes, I am a fabric hoarder!)
Thank you! That was so much fun to hear about all your research and experience. On the adjustable clothing friend front I didn't do it on purpose but many years ago I made an elastic waisted skirt with a bias-cut yoke at the top and gathered skirt starting just above the hip line. I loved it because the bias yoke and elastic waist easily grew and shrank with me over the years, and lasting in a way none of my more modern knit clothes ever have.
This is so interesting! I'm getting really into historic sewing as a hobby (I watched this while preparing full sized 1890's pockets courtesy of Bertha Banner's guide - the bag version for anyone interested) but as someone who deals with bloating, I've given up on closures in my skirts and just pin them closed so that I can adjust at will. I'm going to have to give this method a try, so excited to have more clothing items with respectable pockets.
Thank you to the algorithm for showing me this channel! Just subscribed! Loving all these examples of adjustable clothing from history.
I don't think the reason these aren't sold anymore is because people would have to 'buy fewer clothes', but that the aesthetic has changed significantly. It's much harder to do adjustable clothing for weight gain if the aesthetic is more skintight, or slim, or 'snatched'. The examples shown are quite voluminous, and sort of lock you into either a flowy style or an a-line style. In any case, fashion companies love selling people things with elastic and drawstrings and other forms of adjustability in them. I think they would just compensate by saying "buy 10 of our adjustable skirts, in all these different colors and styles." I also suspect these are much harder to manufacture and sew (and therefore more expensive) than stuff that's elastic-y.
It's still a great project for home sewists, though, and it's lovely to see that there are both skirt and pant variations available for the lower body. I love your enthusiasm, and I look forward to your future videos!
I’ve watched this set of your videos a few times now as I really enjoy them, and I keep forgetting to tell you these things, so here goes: Apparently, 18th century skirts and petticoats were both called petticoats, hence some of the confusion. An excellent source of information is Ash LG, they have produced a couple of videos on both the ‘skirts’, and the pockets. The choice between making attached pockets for each skirt, or making ornate sets of pockets on their own waistband (I’ve taken to calling it a sash as it goes with the swoosh 😂) to go with several skirts is of particular interest to me. Some of them are incredibly beautiful! Delving a little deeper, I found a thing called a pocket swap, which involved several of these talented costumers etcetera making each other pockets. They could choose between a set of 18th century pockets, or utility pockets. I think you’ll find it all fascinating, and may follow me down the rabbit hole I’m currently in of making these zero waste split side skirts/petticoats, and pocket bags. I’m incredibly excited by it all atm, some may say obsessed 😂 and I really think you’ll love it all too. I’d suggest you start with Ashley LG as they’re very straightforward and clear in their instructions. I really hope you find it all as amazing as I do! ❤❤❤
I bought the pattern because of your fantastic blue skirt. I'd looked and hemmed and hawed for literal months... and happened across your photos on Instagram. Glad to hear you give credit where it's due❤
Before you mentioned it was based on 18th century designs, I thought "wow, that looks like an 18th century apron front gown front." And dude...18th c pockets? Total game changer. I was (am? can't do it often) a 1770s living historian and pockets are AMAZING. So much stuff can be crammed in those babies and no one will notice, and no damn bag to worry about!
Oh, and pockets were a separate garment in the centuries before they were sewn into dresses and skirts. Which wasn't until the latter half of the 19th century, in which they were hidden, and in the 1910s, they became visible and a were a bit of a fashion detail.
Great video. It is interesting that most Third World clothing is adaptable for both pregnancy and non-pregnancy. I wear Boho and ethnic clothing with elastic and drawstring waists. My weight has fluctuated massively in recent years, losing nearly 70 lb and the only clothes I got rid of were the closely fitting ones. I have ethnic dresses with ties at the back, and skirts and trousers that are 30 years old and I never stopped wearing them.
I am in awe of those who can 'wing it' when sewing. I learned to sew over 50 years ago and followed the pattern and guide sheet to the T. My mom invented many shortcuts in her sewing and tried to teach my sisters and me, but we never could 'see' the process as she could. I don't sew much any more, but am intrigued by these skirts and petticoats. You all are rockin' it!!
I’ve seen maternity pants with this kind of closure from the 50’s. Also, I think this side split kind of skirt is the traditional folk costume skirt (made in a woolen cloth and massively pleated) in Sweden, with the side split feature there for easy maternity dress accommodation (and also for wearing throughout your life, with the body changes it entails).
Sorry, it’s from the 40’s. Here’s a video that illustrates them. ruclips.net/video/-8BacljJKnA/видео.html
That's so cool! What's the name of the Swedish folk dress? My Google skills are failing me
I love that, thank you for sharing!
@@monicagranucci5081 It's called "folkdräkt" and there are regional variations all over Sweden. I'm not well versed in the construction and couldn't find a free pattern online so I don't actually know how they're closed, but the oldest ones and the styles the newer ones are based on ARE late 17th-18th century folk clothing, so I feel like it tracks that they may be similar to the petticoats etc. Big embroidered pockets are also a thing with them though worn on the outside rather than under the skirt.
It's actually much more common for Swedish folk costume skirts to open at the center front or side front, where the opening is hidden by the apron. This also makes it very easy to accommodate a pregnant belly since you just have to hitch up the skirt over it or maybe get a string to tie the hook and eye together.
Oh em GEE I am *so* excited this video was suggested for me! My niece is getting married in January, and I need an outfit. I have found my jumping off point!!!
This is AMAZING!!! ❤❤❤❤
I want to add an additional skirt: from Mexico--c. 1950's cotton circle skirt with painted or stenciled print. These usually have hook & eye fastening in front for back waistband, and tie back for the front waistband. Pockets seem to be optional. Also, in the 1980s and 1990s loose fitting pleated or gathered pants and skirts with open-pocket sides were very popular (I have an example in my collection). The sides were buttoned, sometimes with several buttons to choose that changed the fit. This concept is related to sailor pants with the drop front closure (although in women's apparel only the waistband is buttoned). As a seasoned fashion design instructor, it was my observation that side pocket closures went out of use when garments lost fullness and true waistband styles were phased out in favor of hip level and lower waistlines in the late 90s/early 2000. The added bulk of side openings weren't desirable. Elastic backs and flat front waistbands were less bulky and became more common. There was never an industry plot to increase sales by not creating adjustable sized waistbands (you imply a sense of organization and leadership that does not exist in the apparel industry). Open side closures are simply a fashion option that went out of consumer favor in preference for close fitting lower garments without waistbands at the true waistline, especially pants which out-sold skirts within a few years. (I have continued to make side pocket closures, as have other experienced seamstresses when faced with a more vintage styled skirt that needs to have a well fit waistband, even after eating)
Two days ago my friend and I agreed that leotard and wraparound skirt [pref from India] were the most comfortable clothes ever [at least until hospital greens came along]. And here we are! I'm a bit of a sewist and I used to make a pocket to put into the side seam to go forward or back of a skirt. I adore this video - and the clothes. Street clothes were so cosmopolitan in the 50s - 60s. I can even remember when ladies put on a hat and gloves to go downtown. I can't stop babbling - see you soon. Got to pull out the fabric box.
My opinion: The S American cultures you mention and the clothing are based on historical clothing from the "conquering" Western cultures that dominated from the 1700's on, and eventually synchronized with the native cultures. It's a given that those skirts reflect the fact that these split side skirts were in fact a common item for women's clothing. Ballet Foklorico's female costumes are in fact a fossilized version of 1860's women's fashion. They just don't wear the crinolines and many layers under the skirts to bloom them out. They are quite beautiful.
spot on with this comment. Early European women arrived in the 'new world' with their commonly worn under garments: white cotton petticoats, pantaloons, corset covers and sleeping gowns, that they would then give to their servants and working people as suitable clothing. These form the basis for so much of what we now see as regional 'costume'--the Mexican embroidered dresses and blouses, tiered skirts, even Hawaiian Mumu and Navajo velvet top and tiered velvet skirt. In the Americas we have to go back to wrapped textiles, skins, feathers and fibers to see original apparel.
So, from some of my own research, I believe in england around the victorian era iirc (it's been awhile since I looked this up) they had split skirts, but the pockets weren't attatched to the skit due to them having a lot of layers. Instead it was like... a little tie on pocket you could tie around your waist and then reach into the openings in the skirt layers. Could fit entire chickens in those things if ya made them big enough. This is why corsets were also really useful, because they helped support the weight of the skit layers and the weight from the pockets.
Saris technically could fall into adjustable clothing? Other than blouses which only really got introduced during British empire the underskirts when worn are uni size and the sari itself is draped to fit any body
Came here to say that. Went to India and saw how a woman could wear a single sari throughout her life cycle, no matter the changes.
And then there's the salwar kameez, a sari alternative in some regions of SE Asia. Pant legs are loose & gathered at the ankle; the part covering the torso are voluminous. They don't wrap; rather, with slits at either side and a drawstring waist, they've fabulously adjustable and oh, so comfortable.
All these cultures are so cute for making all these different versions of an "adjustable skirts(& pants)". I love this video & the comments are helpful and heartwarm. ☺️
You are stinking adorable and super entertaining! I’m not one for many RUclips videos, but this held my attention the entire time. I don’t sew well, but I am looking forward to a tutorial so I can make one of these for myself!
Aw thank you so much!! I'm super glad you enjoyed the video - the tutorial is coming soon!
I love your skirt, and the Coquelicot pattern! I think historically many clothes were not adjustable for size changes, but (hand)sewing was something women spent much more time on. If a dress needed to be adjusted for a different size, there were deep hems and ample seam allowances, and it could be altered, which I consider a kind of adjustability. The clothes weren't disposable, or fast fashion, but were well made of quality fabrics and would be repaired, restyled, altered, handed down and eventually cut down to make children's clothing and finally used to make scrap quilts.
Loved this video and am supper excited for the tutorial. I really liked that you gave credit to the creators that inspired this skirt and I did take a look at their patterns and am now following their pages but they just didn’t have that fantastic wide waist band that you made that really caught my eye!
Thank you so much for watching! I do love me some wide waist bands... and the tutorial videos are coming very soon!
In the past I have designed and made costumes for local theater guilds and in my humble opinion as a twin Reversible/adjustable clothing is EVERYTHING so everything I make incorporates this concept and takes up way less space in the closet
May i refer you to a video "500 years of maternity clothes" by V. birchwood. basically. for 500 years, in western culture, men's clothing buttoned. and women's clothing laced and was adjustable. Not just for monthly weight changed, or weight gain loss. but also, pregnancy. if you might spend up to half your adult life pregnant, your clothes still needed to be wearable then.
Now, this is awesome to draw on for other reasons, but there's a reason everyone assumed women's clothing needed to be size adjustable.
So true! Even nowadays, I'm a big fan of clothing that you could potentially keep wearing straight through a pregnancy, because the concept of going out and buying a whole new wardrobe for such a small period of your life is just crazy to me!
A note to remember the farther back you go, ALL women's cloths are maternity clothing, since most women would have been pregnant, breastfeeding, or getting pregnant , and especially since displaying pregnancy was uncouth having pregnancy explicit clothing would have been avoided for the most part
I'm sooo glad I found this channel!! Thank you so much.
Hi, I'm not a historian either, but I would have guessed that the reason for adjustable clothing for women, was origionally, that they would be expecting to have many and frequent pregnancies, so would almost constantly be changing size. Thanks for the video, IM going to wathc the tutorial now. I had been thinking of making somethin like this but with buttons on the central piece that you have laced.
When I was growing up in my family my Mom made many of our clothes. I remember that Mom paid 10 cents a yard for the fabrics that she made a couple of outfits that she made for my sister and I. When anyone outgrew clothes they we be handed down to another family member or friend. Nothing was wasted. My Mom's best friend would remake her own clothes and clothes that were given to her to make clothes for her young daughter. Nothing was wasted.
My aunt had a 1950s formal skirt, taffeta with stacked pleats (impossible to alter!) that had an eyelet and laces inner waistband to carry the weight and a sash or flap to hide the closure. There was a bodice and jacket to match.
It was moderately adjustable, but I think the real reason for the closure style was because a zipper would have been ugly, and a bazillion yards of taffeta is heavy.
The concept of demanding the courtesy of functional pockets is extremely appealing.
There are 2 main types of patterns: traditional costume and tailoroing. Tailoring is by far the less efficient method, it goes far back western Europe in 1400s and was invented as a way to show off luxury.
I would also add the Ma Mian skirt, a traditional chineese part of han fu costume.
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As someone from eastern Europe, our traditional dress tends to have adjustable skirts. They are usually wrap skirts, but a very specific style; šorec is a Czech (namely Moravian) style, but it can be found in Slovakia as well, and it is a normal box-pleated skirt in the back, but it just doesn't connect in the front, or even overlap. This isn't an issue for modesty, as you wear an apron over it and petticoats (spodnice) and an undergarment (rubáč) with it. Leknice is a variant from a neighbouring area where the skirt construction is nearly identical (although the pleats go all the way rather than the front being flat), but with the bodice sewn on. It's generally agreed on that we all had the style, but started sewing up the front under western influence, though the slit generally still remains in the front (or, less commonly, is moved to the side for pocket purposes) and since it's covered by the apron, can be worn overlapping or gaping open without an issue, accommodating for body changes.
There are many similar styles of wrapping skirts (like southern Russian poneva/понева, Ukrainian plakhta/плахта or Csángó katrinca), and many more styles of adjustable dress like sarafany, I don't want this comment to get too long, but they should be easy to research if anyone is interested (aside from possibly katrinca).
Loved this video. Fun fact: “pollera” is also the generic term for a skirt in Argentina. Also, one of the reasons for tied closures is they were less likely to get damaged on the laundry process.
This video made me excited for sawing again. I love the idea of adjustable clothing, because I gained weight and could not get myself back into my old favourites and I don't have the patience and money to replace them. This could change my wardrobe, but in a good way. :D
YOU ARE AWESOME!!! I've been thinking on 'ever fitting' clothes for a year. I'm on it!!
Yay!!! Make all the adjustable clothing!
One year my button club had to host the yearly convention for the 4 clubs in our state. I pushed the theme Fads, Fashions and Fasteners. I did only a bit of research, and found quite a big area of fasteners , zippers, pins, buttons, ties , etc. we
Had a fashion show of all the clothing we had or could find. One elderly woman brought her grandmothers dress, and one woman brought her graduation dress from the 1940s. I found dresses from the 60s, 70sand of course the great 1980s! But the most surprising garment was a straight skirt and a ‘tent top’ from the 1950s and the cut out and tie waist for the belly. I was shocked.
Apron skirt makes sense to me, I am not sure because i haven't started looking at the patterns yet, just the embroidery but this is how the Norwegian bunad (national dress) is constructed. These are super expensive and the one you get at 16(?) Is meant to last your lifetime with minimal alterations (as far as I can tell).
I really appreciate when you share your research. I find that sort of thing fascinating.
Despite not being a historian or cultural historian, I think you did a really good job! Thanks for being respectful and not appropriative of cultures not your own and asking for help! Now I want to see if I can adapt the idea to trousers, as I'm not keen on skirts other than maxi/peasant styles, I really love palazzo pants and other trousers with high waists and straight or wide legs.
Fantasticalfolies did a pants version of the split side skirt over on her RUclips channel!
@@liav4102 do you happen to remember the name of the video or have a link? My ADHD brain doesn't always do very well with processing information on screens, so I had trouble finding it in her list of videos.
@@quaryn ruclips.net/video/pz6aqUJue48/видео.html
@@quaryn the name of the video is Making Adjustable Historybounding Trousers
@@liav4102 thank you!
I have made 2 basic split side/tie on petticoats from a bedsheets and then lost 30 lbs. They still fit and they have helped me continue wearing my now too big dresses since the fullness of the skirt fills out the skirt of the dress and the cinched tie around my waist makes it feel fitted. I'm considering making some tie up outer skirts now since while I'm glad to have lost weight I know it may return in future seasons of life. Having adjustable clothing is as satisfying as finishing a quilt- its done and it will stay done and can be used for a long time. Thanks for the video!
This is such a wonderful collection of information. Thank you for the time you have spent on this subject and for sharing your findings with the world 🌸
You are so welcome, thank you for watching!
It was the Adjustable waist that caught my eye. My weight fluxuates and I don't buy clothes all that often, so having anything that is adjustable is a plus to me. Good video. Thanks!
I wanted to add in on the discussion, specifically around the Hakama, as someone who has about 85% completed mostly hand-sewing a bifurcated hakama for myself (one day I will complete it, i swear), I just wanted to point out that the traditional styling of a woman's hakama with kimono actually does diminish the ability for one's kimono to function as basically one giant pocket. the reason I say this is because it covers up the obi, which is these days often used as a pocket depending on how the tie is fashioned at the back (or occasionally front) of the outfit. I have seen people demonstrate the ability to use various parts of the kimono as a pocket, including specific obi knots being used to enclose purses etc, which i think is just really damn cool! that being said, Hakama definitely is great for walking like a badass.
Thank you for sharing that!
Ukrainian traditional skirts - plakhta (s) - were also constructed this way, with two separate panels. You tie the back one first, then the front.
Fluffy, full traditional skirts had different designs - with the gap you tie on the front and then cover with the front panel and apron.
I'm so happy to hear i am not the only sewist who struggles with patterns.
Part of the problem of finding specific pieces or sources these days is that google has been rendered almost useless by SEO and other changes. Time was you could google "apron skirt" with the quotes and find exactly what you needed.
AMEN! So annoying!
I am so intrigued by this idea. I like your style. "I'm not a historian, but here's what I found. Make of it what you will" I should give it a go someday. One can always find some cheap sheets at the thrift shop for mockups. Thanks again