Triple-Tape Take-Two (Repair & Demo)
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
- Deja-vu time with the return of the triple deck boombox.
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Not only you've repaired it, but your explanation of the process is so clear and well filmed that this can now serve as instructional video for repairing cassette players. Great stuff!
I’m hoping it might save a few old machines from being thrown away.
I took apart my recently found NAD 6155 yesterday only to find the belts totally disintegrated, turned into goo like on that triple deck. I WILL repair it one day :)
@@Techmoan This video saved my boombox today. Thank you so much 👌
@@plstk63 do indeed and enjoy. Thats what your device is meant for.
"Now this is real edge-of-your-seat stuff, the kind of thing RUclips was designed for" genuinely made me laugh out loud.
Me, too! 😄
Back in the 80's when we were 'backing up' Commodore 64 games on tape, we always found that high speed dubbing was much more successful than normal speed. I never knew why but my guess now is that the wow and flutter would be much lower because less torque is needed on the motors and they could run more steadily.
hqqns As of writing this, your comment has 42 likes... with the original Marvin icon, I can only assume you’d like to know 👍
Doubled my c64 collection through that 😂
@Colin Huth And now it's 69, it's all the magic numbers. The amount of likes tells me that there must have been a lot of backing up going on back in the day using this method :)
Yeah, I always liked to keep a backup of all my Spectrum games. As well as all my friends' and scholastic acquaintances' games... purely for disaster recovery purposes, of course.
@@RustyPetterson Yes, it was important to backup friends games for offsite tape backup, and vice versa for them. Good IT practice even to this day, 3 backups or more meant redundancy in the system.
Thanks Mat for the video and to all the people who helped him to repair the machine . I love it when I see people repairing things and learning something at the same time. I enjoy your style very much. Best wishes.
So wonderful, agreed! Got a bit emotional even (very silly, I know, I know!) who would have thought it's the techy nerdy youtubers that restore my faith in humanity!
@Stev Rex Thanks Stev :)
Fair play! That is some serious work right there. Looks stunning! Especially with those reel to reel cassettes.
Uh...name a cassette that *isn't* "reel to reel"
@@mwilliamshs Reel to Reel meaning two cassette tapes that are metal. Making it look like a reel tool reel movie tape.
@@jvle- well that's not what reel-to-reel means so why not just say hotdog to honda
Aye! Two people who are passionate about electronics talk!
I don't often comment. The community aspect of this makes me smile.
My Auntie is a dance instructor in Okinawa. She has the same tape player! She told me before she started using cd’s she used this player for her studio not only to play dance music but to also copy for her students to take home. She has now either converted those tapes on to CD or asked the record company to send her a cd remaster. Thought i would share.
Mat - The Reassembler; and just as enjoyable as James May.
best geek channel .
James May is a total fake. He doesn't know anything at all about engineering. Mat finds out about stuff and brings broken stuff back to life. Watching James May and hearing his witless prattling is just sort of embarrassing
@@hydorah thats a bit harsh
@@minihjalte It is harsh but it's true. People who profess to possess knowledge they don't have really irk me! And James May is such an arse. have you ever seen his review of the Rover 75?
@@hydorah How can you just assume James May has no idea what he's talking about? Sounds like you simply don't share some of his opinions. That's okay, but Jesus calm the f*ck down.
I wonder if the people who designed these things ever see these videos of people restoring them years after their service life had expired
And the main thing - it looks bloody brilliant!
Now you can go back to pirating music for all your friends.
Just in time for the cassette comeback trends!
For all of your two friends
I was thinking computer games, 80's style
@@BertGrink Tapes! remember Gauntlet tape mucking up halfway through...Brutal times!
Just think how quick you can copy those computer games with this as well!!
I love those old 80s style designs. The red colour on this reminds me of the old Konica Pop camera.
You are brilliant sir. Subscribing to this channel has been one of the best things I've done. I love how you engage with your audience and then how your audience responds to you in this passion of looking at yesterday's tech! I have one issue with you in that you often deprecate your skills sir. I think you are very technically minded and while not a factory trained technician you are immensely competent. You should claim your proper respect sir as it has been earned here many times. Thank you for sharing so much of your passion with us.
Fantastic Job. Thx to the community for providing the help.
Oh my goodness this video is GOLD. I recently unearthed my old 80’s lavender Panasonic boom box from my mom with hopes of giving it to my kid. But upon trying it out, it had a rattle aaaand it ate a tape.
I took a stab at fixing it, found those exact pieces floating around (except the conical spring…) but the belts are clean and in tact! It has the same Tanashin mechanism, just a different motor placement.
Your video now explains why my clutch gear wouldn’t spin! Hope I can find that spring and repair the split plastic cap, or I’ll be reaching for the superglue to mimic the sad solution of those cheap knockoffs … unless you’ve still got spares to spare??
Short story, this is the most satisfying RUclips video I’ve ever watched. Thank you!!
I found the spring stuck to the back of the right speaker magnet! Worked through a couple other issues and happy to report the deck is now fully functional!! Thanks again.
Great video when I saw the thumbnail of the radio I clicked on it. This radio reminds me of the dual tape player/radio that I had as a teen, it was White, Slim with two tape decks and had all kinds of neat features on it. Unfortunately it was robbed from me as a teen and haven't seen it in years this video brought back some great memories thanks.
Nice of the guys to help out with the part's needed
GREAT video ... no stupid gimmicks ... just straight foreword tech repair ... that three deck looks in great condition never seen one before so got my attention as have several of your other cassette machines.
As an electro / mechanical engineer myself I am always looking to learn from other people ... never to old to learn.
Sadly that build quality from Japan is no longer there with equipment made in other countries now days ... thanks for sharing your skills.
So happy it works now. It'll look perfect at a picnic or something
Now i now why we need a 21:9 screen. It’s to use this cassette deck as wallpaper
In next years we'll need a 42:9 for put a soundbar as a wallpaper
As someone who did stereo repair, in and out of warranty starting in 89. Ive done that repair a million times. Lucky for u it was just plastic split rings on the flywheel. More expensive units some times had metal E rings. Those things are a eye hazard and u never find them again in a shop environment when they go pop. U just have to have spares, but good job on the repair. Brought back memories, learn something new every day i always say.
I stumbled on your channel by shear RUclips luck, and I have stayed. Awesome videos.
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Going down the Techmoan rabbit hole is a joy that I envy you for being able to experience now.
Wow that triple deck desktop background fits nicely with your ultra wide screen
Good restoration, The manufacturer probably never thought this unit would be around long enough to require new belts!
You've really inspired me over the last few weeks. Since watching your videos, I've replaced the belts on my Sony HTC-NX1 tape deck, as they had stretched after 19 years of use, and also fixed my Panasonic RQ CW05 personal stereo after the belts stretched on that. Time to get some cassettes out to play on it!
I can imagine an 80's Japanese party DJ getting some pretty good use out of this.
Well done to both you and your audience. I couldn't resist playing High speed dubbing on 0.5 speed at 12:41
@@AaaAaa-ly3on Exactly why I shared.
I love how much time you put into cleaning and repairing these old pieces, even though you may only play it for the video and never look at it again.
Double-take on the triple-tape.
It's baaaack. Glad you got it sorted.
I'm impressed with your patience Matt. Thanks for another great review.
I’m not a repair expert but I have an ultrasonic cleaner at home and whenever there is something small or annoying or hard to clean I just drop it in and it does a great job, I wonder if such a cleaner could save you from doing so much manual labor in the future. Thanks for all the great videos! Keep em coming :)
I like the way the ultrawide boombox fits your ultrawide monitor.
A very interesting project. Really tiny parts on some of them. How lovely that people found bits of you and explained how to get it apart.
The reason behind the better Speed and WOW/Flutter Values are more of plain physical nature rather than electrical. These closed servo motors are designed to withstand slow and medium voltage chanes and drifts. The motor won't spin any slower unless the supplied voltage is very low (6V or so).
That's why many decks continue playing normally with bad batteries till the end, and then fail very fast in just a few minutes. The motor will draw more current when voltage is not availiable until both is not given anymore. Plus the flywheel to compensate for slight changes in torque.
For the better speed value of the copy, that's simple. A recording recorded on fast playing tape will sound slow on normal machines and vice versa. Too slow recorded, plays too fast.
Now D1 was 2% up and D3 1%, that's -1% Speed. As seen on The meter.
For wow and flutter it's even simpler. More speed, less friction, less hick ups from the mechanism.
There isn't that much electrical about the mechanism. Unless one starts to mess with the record path and BIAS. This can get out of hand quickly.
Still, great that everything went so smoothly.
I like this tape deck.You love it when everything comes together.Had a few repairs that went so well and most were simple and blind luck helps. Had a belt less dual tape deck and the one would not work.After awhile of trial and error I was ready to call it a day. I was picking it up off the counter and landed hard.I tested it to make sure no damage. Deck 1 that I thought didn't work started working. Blind Luck a happy accident caused it to work. It worked for years after that.I only paid $25.00 dollars for it.Until next time 🙂😎.
Great work on those Tanashin mechanisms! I've done a similar work with both decks of my Panasonic RX-CT 800 boombox that also uses Tanashin mechanisms but with the improved "full autostop" feature. Belts turned to goo so there was no fast forward or rewind and the automatic shut off always tripped as soon as a function was activated. The most annoying thing was cleaning that black goo from the pulleys and capstans.
Great video! Glad you were able to repair it with help! Great quirky machine! I still have my old cassette collection!
Love your channel to bits, clean and simple! Have been a hifi and music enthusiast ever since I inherited my dad's hifi equipment when I was ten. Father succumbed to pulmonary cancer at the ripe old age of 35, God rest his soul, but his legacy lives on.
Thanks also to the guy who sent you a batch of the same batteries.
But next time put them in the machine with the label in the same position.
When you put an LP, CD, DVD or Blu-Ray back in the sleeve or case, do you always make sure the label is upright?
I do that.
@@matambale I also do that.
You had to mention it ! Now I can't stop thinking about it
Sorry about that.
@@matambale I do that as well & yes when fitting a set of batteries I like to have all the labels facing the same way! I think I need to get out more! 😁
9:02 Gosh, do i miss the *original* meaning of "designed to come apart".
With your inspiration, I tried to fix an old cassette deck. It is absolutely amazing how messy those perished belts can be.
I always love how you make me watch videos about stuff I didn't even know I'm interested in 😍🤣
I could listen to Teachmoan say the word "Boombox" all day
That is one gorgeous looking tape deck. Bright red plastic definitely needs to make a comeback.
I love these videos! I'm not sure why. It's just a great mix of understanding technological ingenuity and preserving it, seeing products that were sold in regions that we may not know, bringing something back to life, educational, geeky... it's just a great mix and so well presented.
Hi, i would like to say that I've started to watch your channel 2 months ago and I must say your context is great! Thank you
Apart from the content which is as good as always, I really appreciate constant quality across whole video, great control over lighting, exposure and depth of view. Also the sound level is stable across whole video which makes listening on the headphones a pleasure. Good job! 🎧🙂
I bet you could defeat the mute and pause and get all three playing simultaneously. Great video, and nice job on the repair.
Two thumbs up for the people that sent you those parts and told you how to fix.
And a busted "bugger to access while running" motor speed control is why I had to put a zener across it to slow down an over eager drive. This was back in my early impatient teens where replacing the motor pot would be too much work. It was a sony though. These things are so much fun to tinker, I hope they come back harder.
Great job getting that awesome bit of the past back in 'like-new' shape! That's the best triple-cassette deck I've seen
I'm now convinced that it's time to start working on some of my old decks where the belts have turned into goo... Thanks for the excellent, step-by-step explanation of how you accomplished this repair.
Without Techmoan and RUclips,i wuld never have known these tri-tape players existed.RUclips was originally made for these kinds of vids,as Matt himself said.Money was not why most people started youtube channels at its start,though it was a bonus pocket-change.
So glad you got it working. Something that I’d have loved back then, albeit for no real reason. It just looks so...
One of your best videos so far I think. Explains a lot, nice detailed shots and you look happy with the results.
This video is a great counterpoint to all the negative comments. Those commenters ad nothing to the conversation whereas these commenters not only provided useful instructions, they also provided replacement parts! All of this came together to make another excellent Techmoan video.
Have to love the little communities we have here in RUclips, helping each other out to make videos
Love those tape color choices very cool.
Das habe ich noch nie gesehen.
Und das qualität immer noch besser ist als heute ist auch klar.
My theory on why the High-Speed dubbing produced better results is because the flywheels are simply spinning at a higher speed, which allow them to conserve more energy and therefore better regulate the speed of the tape. Great video, keep up the great work.
Glad you got help with getting parts needed to repair your deck.
Great video ;) I love these japanese consumer electronic’s videos. Please talk about Yamaha,Pioneer,Sony,Sharp and so on. Good production and quality = Good value so keep doing what you have and i will support you if needed.
The Japanese are always so perfect. Any electronics that were made in Japan sure do outlast modern Chinese crap.
"Gunk" and "Mush". Two of the most underrated words in the english dictionary.
Always happy to see a successful repair of any device. Great work! ... kinda want one.
Well done team Techmoan, great result. 👍
National! I hadn't thought of that brand in years. I had a National shortwave receiver back in the 60's when I was a kid. How small the world has gotten since then.
That was really nice that that guy sent you all of those assemblies!
Great fix and very well done on the repair, I kinda like this radio cassette! I genuinely thought you were gonna treat us to a puppet show at the end about why we needed 3 decks on a boom box.
3 cassette deck? Wooow! If you had this in the early '90-s then you was the king :D Briliant idea the background with a picture of this long beauti on a 21:9 display :D Well done video!
Amazing job! Great to see it repaired 😀
I always like National audio equipments. Top quality. Had a National walkman model RX SA-74 in 1991.
I love how you perfectly use your widescreen in the background xD
Brilliant to see it working! Hat off to all the people who helped and donated the pieces.:-)
Oooh... Where can I find that picute of the silver triple deck? that's a cool desktop wallpaper for an ultrawide monitor.
You'd have to take a screengrab of the video, it's made in editing by only showing the blue color of the tape spool.
The last reply to Timo's comment has a link to a hi-res image of it. It is just above your comment.
Love Panasonic So Much, This Is Such A Amazing Looking Boombox, Great Video As Always
Best prescription for a soggy Sunday morning.
Afternoon for me, It rained around where I am a little over a couple hours or so ago.
Oh man I want a tape deck and cassettes now. I have always loved cassettes. They are more flexible than a cd and you can get more music on one.
I always look forward to your videos. Thanks for all your hard work on these! (Also, I am a big fan of the puppets)
6:40 that mechanism is the continuous play mechanism, once one deck comes to an end of tape, it clicks and releases the pause of the second deck.
Edit- 12:40 this functionality is also achieved by the same mechanism. The pause disengages the moment you press play on deck one.
Techmoan is quite possibly the coolest youtuber on the youtube
As a child, I loved using high-speed dubbing to rips tapes. I also used it on occasion to copy ZX Spectrum/Amstrad game cassettes though they were prone to fail unless copied on normal speed.
16:57 - it is quite attractive with the different coloured tapes working at the same time (plus, I like the colours you chose).
I've repaired a bunch of these. Those two different mechanisms were perfectly interchangeable. You made a repair that should be extremely simple way more complicated...
Oh, that's awesome, glad it was able to be fixed. I do love watching things getting taken to bits and being repaired.
Also, bloody hell I love that depth of field in the studio segments. It just looks so good.
I actually love the aesthetic of it
Very cool, nice job. Also, I love your multi-colored metal reel tapes.
I don't know how you manage it fella. I've just watched a 20min vid of the cleaning and restoring a cheap plastic tape deck and enjoyed every minute from start to finish. Kudos on that and kudos on the acknowledgement and thanks you gave to the assistants who all get a their own kudos points.
Cheers all round!
it's fun to see this kind of weird devices working again. I still can't wrap my mind around the idea of three decks!!.
What is not to love about your channel! Not pretentious, technically savvy, nice dry sense of humour (I spelled it your way😉). Great work as always.
This is exactly why I support your patreon and youtube. I am happy that little machine is back working and you got to tell us about it.
Thank you so much for finishing this up. I was really looking forward to this.
Yes!
very cool piece i owned in the 1980,s wish i had kept it anyway the stereo seperation is caused by wide range speakers they used in that radio overall great find
I remember when i was a teenager, the guy i used to buy my mixtapes off of had a boombox with 2 tapedecks that held 2 tapes in each deck for a total of 4 cassettes...
Hi,
I've got a Sony CFS-W301 that has only two tape decks, but strongly reminds me of your boombox.
Thanks for showing all the detail on belt replacement on this model. I have a feeling that many of these boomboxes from different manufacturers can be repaired in a similar way.
17:09 Japan 1985 vs China 2019.
No contest Japan wins 👍
Japan wins in 2019 and 1985.
To be fair, the Chinese can, and do, make most Apple products etc. The difference is that the company making the Reka box probably have a budget of about $3 a unit.
@@MrDuncl True. The build quality/performance only depends on how much you're willing to pay.
MrDuncl Although as we’ve seen from the videos, the cassette mechanisms are near identical in the two machines. The lack of stereo in the Aldi boom box is inexcusable, and the quality of the wiring from the mains transformer is downright irresponsible.
This channel gives me warm fuzzy feelings
This was cutting edge tech for 1985.
As John "Hannibal" Smith would say, I love it when a plan comes together.
I had a two-deck player that COULD play two tapes at the same time. I'd amuse myself by playing the same song on both and see how they would go out of phase slowly.