love this but Acheron is stronger than Welt, Welt is weaker than before and wasn't the strongest guy in Honkai Impact too. Acheron moved so fast it looked like everyone was moving in slow motion, has she actually aimed to kill him, she would've in the blink of an eye. love the guy and his character but he's not stronger than people like Acheron and possibly even True Herta (who is an emenator like Acheron)
@pinnappel713 Nah. The Second Eruption lore says otherwise. Even without being in his prime, the dude still has Star of Eden's power. It can also slow time, and Welt can recreate his body as long as his core is with him. In raw power, Welt is much stronger. Really, the only thing Acheron has going for her is her slowing time down. But if Welt managed to get the Star of Eden off quick enough, the same thing would happen to her. It really comes down to who has a faster reaction time. But even then, Acheron couldn't kill him due to having his core. He should still be able to recreate his body without his full Herrscher authority. So Acheron would end up spending wasted energy trying to kill him. I don't think it would be the easiest fight for Welt, but I do think he would win mid diff. However, Acheron is most certainly above everyone else in the game so far. I would put her just under Welt, but above eveyone else.
@@pinnappel713 Nah, the Star of Eden alone can nuke Acheron, Acheron herself admitted that her sword is nothing compared to his "black hole" not to mention Welt is an ex herrscherr (god) with gravity and black hole manipulation supported by a Divine Key which harbours the powers of the Herrscher it was made from + his feats from other Honkai Media (Quasi Black Hole and Sigularity Rebuild) Puts Welt on Cosmic entity status and could be argued to be able to fight or even kill the Aeons of HSR
Well... That lines is the truth.... I think he said to all enemies in the HSR universe because nothing people in the HSR Universe know about his power (full power mode).
@@Flamelance_Accendo lol...true. EDIT(AFTER 8 MONTHS): Welt is actually not that powerful. He scales to planetary at maximum seeing as he got folded TWO TIMES in a row by Sirin. Also there are beings called Overlords of the Antimatter Legion. Welt mentioned that these beings are capable of destroying entire Star systems. Overlords can be compared to emanators in terms of power since Overlords are directly chosen by Nanook and draw power from him similar to how Emanators directly draw power from the Aeons of their respective paths. BTW, the statement about Overlords being able to destroy entire star systems was mentioned by Welt himself in-game. I could type out everything he said but I'm too lazy. If you have HSR already installed go talk to Welt in the Parlor Car. In fact there are some Aeons, specifically Nanook, who have shown feats that rival even the most powerful Herrschers in HI3rd. It's safe to say HSR verse >>> HI3rd verse.
@@whalexy kalpas definitely gonna turn him and his core into ash but kosma and otto is debatable Kosma if he consume enough honkai beast than kosma definitely win Otto is strong but fighting welt that is mankind hero in ce?its debatable
@@dofiy3471 well I can kinda agree. The thing is, Kosma in terms of raw power isn't that far from likes of Kalpas but he also has that fatal weakness of losing control and considering how intelligent Welt is, he most certainly will be able to use it to his advantage. For Otto it depends whether we take his False God form (or at least just him having powers of the 10th and 11th Herrschers) or his normal self. First case Otto obviously wins, second case I guess it could go to Welt. While sure Otto is smarter than Welt, this difference won't be enough to make up for sheer contrast in power between the two. Guess I answered my own question xd
@@whalexy well kosma is kind of debatable even though he lost control if he consume enough honkai beast than he can even beat kevin Otto one i agree the false god form is too strong that even kiana and k439 herrscher of flamescion(fusion herrscher) cant really beat him
For everyone saying it’s wrong. In the Honkai Impact 3rd manga, Welt was an ex-Herrscher (God) and could solo 99.9% of the HI3 Verse. The only person he couldn’t beat was Kevin Kaslana. But Welt took precautions and sealed the entire universe to get away from Kevin. Even went as far as to beat the main antagonist of HI3 with EASE.
@@BluTru in the second eruption manga at least he lost every head-on encounter with her. The first time he was vomiting blood and was eventually overwhelmed, but won because of the silver bullet. The second time, on the moon, he knew it was a suicide mission and resorted to time distortion to hold her off for long enough to allow Siegfried to gather soulium, but she shut his black hole within a mere minute. The third time, in her Fenghuang Down, there was no way he could win anyway and, indeed, he lost and had his core broken.
I guess its the Developers Decision because if Welt Sees HSR Bronya He will Have Memories in the past And Seeing Cocolia In sight Will eventually Make Welt go '"welp Time to say goodbye Cocolia,Begone Thot"
@seraphim3923 I mean he saw Luocha who was his "friend" who was on the star rail with him before he decided to leave before the story started. The lore states and sounds like Luocha was most definitely the one traveling with welt and Himeko at the time. He saw Luocha in one of the quests and visibly responded and seemed to be worried that it was either Void Archives or Otto somehow. But then kept his calm and just had his suspicions until they saw all the film. If he can keep his calm around that man I'm pretty sure bronya and cocolia wouldn't budge him much either.
@@gancyr3D i mean this is the same dude that outsmarted sirin and even got praised by her which is extremely rare due to how lowly sirin views humans and humanity in general. even his predecessor, joyce left an impression on otto.
I love characters who are literally so overpowered but they aren’t like- super egotistical. The juxtaposition is hysterical to me. Welt literally solos everyone and he also squints at his phone. It’s incredible.
@@_Void_Archive_thats ingame, but lore wise he is the strongest. Im so sure he was just holding back during phantylia fight becuz aint no way some low lvl emantor a problem for Welt.
@@Night_Times According to the lore, the velt can be killed with a knife (read the second eruption) and his strongest attack: a bunch of tanks and ships. He is definitely not stronger than the eminators of the path or the eon. (especially now)
@@maingrader4434We don't really know how they compare, considering we've not had the chance to fight or even meet one, outside of the Simulated Universe.
same but it's kinda impossible since Kiana is sucking out every bit of honkai to seal it in HI3rd's moon, which is why every herrscher is literally sitting at 1% of their power
@@StrangerWorld77 No, you need to belive that Welt will be a gigachad and turn himself to the Aeon of Reason, then new characters can walk the path of Reason
Joachim (Welt Yang) is the 1st Herrscher of Reason's (Welt Joyce) successor, Bronya (Who obtained the Herrscher core in one of Welt Yang's bubble universe in the sea of quanta) under Welt Yang's teaching learned to better utilize the power of the Herrscher of Reason. Eventually Bronya figures out the true meaning behind the HoR's power (unity of the will of 300,000 people) hence becoming the successor to Both Welt Yang and Welt Joyce's legacy becoming the True Herrscher of Reason (Herrscher of Truth)
@@Ozpawnno, it is mentioned in apho2 that bronya give back the core to welt and it does revert back to core of reason because core of truth is just core of reason with its full potential unlocked being able to use the 300000 consciousness stored within it, and because of most of the honkai get sealed in the moon with kiana most of herrscher core have a really limited power
Guess what? Herrschers murder physics. How does Singularity Rebuild apparently works: The Zeroth Law states: " The surface gravity, K of a stationary black hole is constant over the event horizon." The Third Law states: "It is impossible by any procedure, no matter how idealized, to reduce K to zero by a finite sequence of operations." With his singularity rebuild, however, Welt does exactly that. He basically reduces the K of his Black Hole to 0 which outright starts messing with time-space and creates a naked singularity. "if one could reduce K to zero by a finite sequence of operations, then presumably one could carry the process further, thereby creating a naked singularity. If this were to happen there would be a breakdown of the assumption of asymptotic predictability which is the basis of many results in black hole theory, including the law that A cannot decrease. (A is the area of the Event Horizon)". What is a naked singularity? "A naked singularity could allow scientists to observe an infinitely dense material, which would under normal circumstances be impossible by the cosmic censorship hypothesis. Without an event horizon of any kind, some speculate that naked singularities could actually emit light."
He don't use the divine key Star of eden (it was destroyed in the story of hi3) he use a copy that he created with the little HoR authority that he has left.
He's still definitely as strong as a herrscher though in raw power still. If he could create an entire army of machines before, with the power he has now, he can at least create a significant portion of that amount still. His greater knowledge and experience compared to his power in his prime probably puts him on an equal level to his old self
@@themustardman219 He is definitely weaker than his prime simply because he doesn't have his core and he can't use his herrscher authority to the full extent.
@crispybaguette4033 he has a replica core, not the actual one. Also, if Bronya gave it back, then Welt would have HoTr authority. Even with the 1% of Honkai energy left, Welt would ascend to HoTr.
If HSR didn't need to keep the game balanced,Welt would be one oneshoting everything in sight. If you let him use his ult he would just erase entire planets by accident.
He might accidentally destroy the verse if he went full power but sadly he lost his herrscher core and original divine key. The cane that he uses in HSR is a copy of his divine key that he created with the little of HoR authority that he had so it isn't as powerful as the original but it still gets the job done.
@@SpongeTheAbsoluteLol, even in prime he is not stronger than other hkrrshers, even weaker than any of them (except for Wendy). In prime, he will become a maximum as an eiminator of the path, which is strong, but also not directly the pinnacle of power.
If Welt still had his 100% Herrscher Power he will be a god in HSR. The power of the Herrscher of Reason is to create anything as long as the user knows the function, logic, structure, composition etc of it
@@WarriorofRedmore like an unbinded by her powers momo, nothing he creates needs to be from his body or his energy, and once he’s made it he can control it at will. Momo still needs to operate what she creates like cannons or catapults
@@Sorrow653 For that he would need to understand literally everything about them From how they function to the matter they are made out of etc. Wich to me seems quite literally impossible
Fax🔥...in Hi3 comic/manga he can crash between the valkyrie dimension and the honkai dimension using only 0,5% of his power...He can also absorb mass so quickly that even light is absorbed...Even when he was still in the Middle Ages, Welt was able to recall a universal dimensional cube that had been sealed...He was also able to neutralize the absolute destruction caused by Serin...even he only used 5% to 10% of his power to return the universe...even when in his glory days he was able to touch the hypeversal lvl...he can even break through absolute barriers easily...In normal/base mode his own strength is stated to be almost equivalent to Herrscher...you could say he is an ex-god
i only just now thought how that while kafka and all them are technically enemies welt could probably destroy them instantly if he really wanted to welt is probably the only one that can defy elio’s script i don’t even think he has a part in the script so welt is the only unknown and unplanned variable which could actually lead to us possibly breaking the script
I want that to happen now. Not only do I love Welt but I'm also so tired of hearing about Elio's damn scripts *glares at Kafka* Also that would just be badass
@@Definitely_Not_an_Alien well for starters welt is from the honkai impact 3rd universe and that he ended up in the honkai star rail universe when he entered a strange portal that appeared and closed soon after he left i forget exactly why he entered the portal he might have been chasing after someone else who also entered but i am pretty sure it’s in the manga/game for honkai impact 3rd about him entering a portal so welt’s arrival in star rail wasn’t planned nor was it seen in the script elio created there is another video i watched awhile back talking about all of this and you know bro can summon black holes with just a tap of his cane
yes. welt can still summon blackholes and alter the dimensional space around it. technically speaking welt can destroy the luofu with one black hole , he could really solo anyone still. he is an ex God and even Emanators could get destroyed. he just doesnt use his power much because it must be tiring to him. and remember welt went through a stelaron explosion ( at the begining of the game against the dragon of the void ) and stopped it with his cane
Well here is a spoiler . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. Yeah dude doesn't do much based on the leaked CG in fact he was like out of commision well not really but like he was stunned. Jing Yuan and Dan heng carried the fight against the Emanator of destruction.
@@themustardman219im sure in the future there will be a time where he is one of the focused characters. Since hoyo added him there that means he has a pretty big role in the story later involving the sky people
His knowledge is not to be underesimated either Don't forget that for the power of reason to work he have to got an understand of what he want So welt is a genius of Physics / star of eden Human body so science Fighting Strategic Animation Robotics And human weapons possibly other since he is in space now And also concepts such as the sea of quanta and him creating a prison/labyrinthe and imaginary tree So yea even without power he is op
I’ve recently been thinking about something, technically. If the Welt in HSR is the same that in 3rd, this mean we still didn’t meet his HSR counterpart?! Imagine we meet his alternative version
100% accurate. It blows my mind that they literally did nothing with him in 3 patches. If he doesn't pop off in the next two patches I will drop HSR faster than you can say "Witness the shattering of stars".
@@AsroFX simp anyways Welt has a divine key and is the 1st Herrscher. He's already a god among humans in HSR. Sure his powers are passed onto Bronya Zaychik but still lorewise he's extremely dangerous and powerful compared to a lot of characters.
@@killercookie8540Welt's whole problem is that his core of Herreshra has weakened with the advent of Herreshra End. The Welt itself resonates less than 50% with the core of the Herreshr, which is why it is weaker. He cannot use his key thoughtlessly, as it is a restriction on use. He was unable to defeat the Deer of Plenty, which already shows his weakness. After the events of honkai 3, he became weak, he has only experience and a couple of chances to use a synthetic hole with a key. I wrote this from a translator.
she´s has literally beaten END and has both Origin and End power and its even an emanator, welt is nothing compared to her, even god welt, he could win against Kevin but acheron did beat him in this reality when he was END. So yeah, shes a lot stronger than him
@Bastard There's are some connections between the two like Welt that managed to travel to HSR universe. But overall, I agree, you don't really need to play HI3rd to understand about HSR.
Herrscher of Reason's power of creating anything from nothing based on his understanding + Sea of knowledge he possesses right now = Future Powered-Up version of Welt in HSR.
@27.raihandwi.f28 Nah, the Aeons max out at Multi Galaxy level to Universal 5D. Welt in his prime had multiversal level hax, Multi Solarsystem level AP, and 11D dimensionality. He would neg the Aeons in prime.
guys! stop bullying those newbie players when it comes to honkai universe lore, it's pointless to fight if the others can't understand what we're talking about, they're just a babies
Star of Eden can only manipulates gravity and cannot create black holes, the black holes purely came from Welt's Herrscher of Reason power. He understood how a black hole works but lacking the device to amplify it hence Star of Eden came into the picture, it amplifies the power of his black hole. Aeons? Prime Welt would just spam black holes to delete them all.
Not only that, Prime Welt is 11D, so he can exist on higher dimensional planes than the Aeons. He could also just create anything he learned about. Heck, if he figured out how an Aeon worked, he could just create an army of Aeons for fun. 😂
@@jakeblitzcoffie4859don't know where you two got this information from. Welt can only create things that he understands how they are constructed hell even Bronya had trouble understanding the power of Reason and it was thanks to Welt that she understood how to use it. The Star of Eden CAN create a black hole. I doubt you two have even seen the OG star of Eden as in the form that it takes of a ball.
@petipeti1235 Idk what you're going on about, but I'm not disagreeing with anything you just said. I play both Hi3 and HSR. I've been playing Hi3 for years, so I already know what you're talking about. 🤷
Yeah, pretty much. I want to see him actually do something for once. The closest he has gotten to showing his power off his threatening Acheron. Even in the newest Penacony update, the dude just holds back and watches. I'm kinda tired of this defenseless facade he puts on every new planet. Even against Sunday, he chose not to one-shot him. 😂
and this guy are already nerfed soo much, imagine if he still in his prime with his full herrscherr power this guy are the entire civilization personified
The real question is that is he comparing Welt in HSR state or is he using Welt prime state(Honkai impact), either way he still quite literally destroys them all
Yep, and yet i see people downscaling TF outta HI3 Verse to only a World and the Imaginary Tree is a single Universe, some even say the Astral Express travels through WORLDS 😭
Welt once said " You know nothing of the weight behind this power , witness the star shatter before you .SURVIVE or BE DESTROYED there is no other choice "
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Thank You Everyone
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I don't think Luocha is neg dif, Luocha fought against Aeon of destruction Nanook, and probably could've even defeated it
Going to make that thing video don't worry
Archeron with white black hole vs welt with purple black hole plsss
Good Game Welt Played: he said
welt yang herrscher of reason solos >
Welt said to acheron:
"Reveal your true identity and intentions... Otherwise,
brace yourself for gravitational disintegration"🥶🥶
That he did. Love this ex god. Hope we see him unleash Star of Eden fully next update. 😊
@@jakeblitzcoffie4859 star of eden became cane of eden😭😭 how time ruin my gal😭😭
love this but Acheron is stronger than Welt, Welt is weaker than before and wasn't the strongest guy in Honkai Impact too. Acheron moved so fast it looked like everyone was moving in slow motion, has she actually aimed to kill him, she would've in the blink of an eye. love the guy and his character but he's not stronger than people like Acheron and possibly even True Herta (who is an emenator like Acheron)
@pinnappel713 Nah. The Second Eruption lore says otherwise. Even without being in his prime, the dude still has Star of Eden's power. It can also slow time, and Welt can recreate his body as long as his core is with him. In raw power, Welt is much stronger. Really, the only thing Acheron has going for her is her slowing time down. But if Welt managed to get the Star of Eden off quick enough, the same thing would happen to her. It really comes down to who has a faster reaction time. But even then, Acheron couldn't kill him due to having his core. He should still be able to recreate his body without his full Herrscher authority. So Acheron would end up spending wasted energy trying to kill him. I don't think it would be the easiest fight for Welt, but I do think he would win mid diff. However, Acheron is most certainly above everyone else in the game so far. I would put her just under Welt, but above eveyone else.
@@pinnappel713 Nah, the Star of Eden alone can nuke Acheron, Acheron herself admitted that her sword is nothing compared to his "black hole" not to mention Welt is an ex herrscherr (god) with gravity and black hole manipulation supported by a Divine Key which harbours the powers of the Herrscher it was made from + his feats from other Honkai Media (Quasi Black Hole and Sigularity Rebuild) Puts Welt on Cosmic entity status and could be argued to be able to fight or even kill the Aeons of HSR
"You know nothing of the weight behind this power"
Well... That lines is the truth.... I think he said to all enemies in the HSR universe because nothing people in the HSR Universe know about his power (full power mode).
“Survive or be destroyed.” Literally one of the best ultimate lines in the game.
"Witness the stars shatters before you!
Survive or be destroyed There is no other choice"
And then deal 159 damage in early game lol
@@ASyarifZNstno. The power he carries doesn't come at a low price. As he said "witness the stars shatter before you."
"They don't know I'm god guys"
When Welt is sitting with Kafka and Blade in the 1.2 trailer stream:
@@Flamelance_Accendo lol...true.
EDIT(AFTER 8 MONTHS): Welt is actually not that powerful. He scales to planetary at maximum seeing as he got folded TWO TIMES in a row by Sirin. Also there are beings called Overlords of the Antimatter Legion. Welt mentioned that these beings are capable of destroying entire Star systems. Overlords can be compared to emanators in terms of power since Overlords are directly chosen by Nanook and draw power from him similar to how Emanators directly draw power from the Aeons of their respective paths. BTW, the statement about Overlords being able to destroy entire star systems was mentioned by Welt himself in-game. I could type out everything he said but I'm too lazy. If you have HSR already installed go talk to Welt in the Parlor Car. In fact there are some Aeons, specifically Nanook, who have shown feats that rival even the most powerful Herrschers in HI3rd. It's safe to say HSR verse >>> HI3rd verse.
Nah he is just german
Nah he is just a soul reaper
@@Mogtoa Welt Sousuke
This whole welt vs trend is basically the coughing baby vs atom bomb
" *You know nothing of the weight behind this power* "
Man was a literal god
Yup.
God of kissing the floor. If you know the lore, you will immediately understand that Welt is weak, and not a god.
Welt is actually Ex-God (Herrscher)
Only man that Welt can't win is just KeBin Kaslana
What about Kalpas, Kosma and Otto though? But yeah, man is still pretty damn strong
@@whalexy kalpas definitely gonna turn him and his core into ash but kosma and otto is debatable
Kosma if he consume enough honkai beast than kosma definitely win
Otto is strong but fighting welt that is mankind hero in ce?its debatable
@@dofiy3471 well I can kinda agree. The thing is, Kosma in terms of raw power isn't that far from likes of Kalpas but he also has that fatal weakness of losing control and considering how intelligent Welt is, he most certainly will be able to use it to his advantage. For Otto it depends whether we take his False God form (or at least just him having powers of the 10th and 11th Herrschers) or his normal self. First case Otto obviously wins, second case I guess it could go to Welt. While sure Otto is smarter than Welt, this difference won't be enough to make up for sheer contrast in power between the two. Guess I answered my own question xd
@@whalexy well kosma is kind of debatable even though he lost control if he consume enough honkai beast than he can even beat kevin
Otto one i agree the false god form is too strong that even kiana and k439 herrscher of flamescion(fusion herrscher) cant really beat him
not only kevin,kalpas,false God Otto and maybe kosma(lost control) can beat him but sure he's above siegfried and Su
For everyone saying it’s wrong. In the Honkai Impact 3rd manga, Welt was an ex-Herrscher (God) and could solo 99.9% of the HI3 Verse. The only person he couldn’t beat was Kevin Kaslana. But Welt took precautions and sealed the entire universe to get away from Kevin. Even went as far as to beat the main antagonist of HI3 with EASE.
I haven’t played HI3, but I’ve read the second eruption manga. Who’s the “main antagonist of HI3” that Welt beat?
@@kap1242 herrscher of the Void aka sirin
@@BluTru in the second eruption manga at least he lost every head-on encounter with her. The first time he was vomiting blood and was eventually overwhelmed, but won because of the silver bullet. The second time, on the moon, he knew it was a suicide mission and resorted to time distortion to hold her off for long enough to allow Siegfried to gather soulium, but she shut his black hole within a mere minute. The third time, in her Fenghuang Down, there was no way he could win anyway and, indeed, he lost and had his core broken.
His body was destroyed, but because of his ability, he created a new one at the same moment
With ease is cap 💀. Huge Cap 💀
The reason Himeko didn't let Welt go to Jarilo VI because she scared that Welt going to fucked up that planet just to remove the stellaron
Doubt it, he's been on missions before with March and Dan Heng, Himeko genuinely just wanted the kids to get to know each other better.
@@izzyyheree this seems all the more hilarious when you realise the mc wouldve died if not for qlipoth
I guess its the Developers Decision because if Welt Sees HSR Bronya He will Have Memories in the past And Seeing Cocolia In sight Will eventually Make Welt go '"welp Time to say goodbye Cocolia,Begone Thot"
@@seraphim3923"Hey Bronya, did you update Arahato yet?"
@seraphim3923 I mean he saw Luocha who was his "friend" who was on the star rail with him before he decided to leave before the story started. The lore states and sounds like Luocha was most definitely the one traveling with welt and Himeko at the time. He saw Luocha in one of the quests and visibly responded and seemed to be worried that it was either Void Archives or Otto somehow. But then kept his calm and just had his suspicions until they saw all the film. If he can keep his calm around that man I'm pretty sure bronya and cocolia wouldn't budge him much either.
"Witnessed the star shatter before you" like damn man uses blackhole for an attack
And that ain't even his main power just a side bonus thank to his weapon
@@charadreamer6704The star of Eden is now his cane. What a huge flex
And that ain't even his full power. He was a menace in HI3rd to the point that even Kevin Kaslana respected
@@SpongeTheAbsolute I mean even Otto respected Welt... unless it was on the battlefield then Otto completely disrespected him.
@@gancyr3D i mean this is the same dude that outsmarted sirin and even got praised by her which is extremely rare due to how lowly sirin views humans and humanity in general. even his predecessor, joyce left an impression on otto.
I love characters who are literally so overpowered but they aren’t like- super egotistical. The juxtaposition is hysterical to me. Welt literally solos everyone and he also squints at his phone. It’s incredible.
heyy, give grandpa a break
Well, he's not stronger than Jing yuan right now
Lol what? I have Welt and I need to see this right now. Its probably adorable to see
@@_Void_Archive_thats ingame, but lore wise he is the strongest. Im so sure he was just holding back during phantylia fight becuz aint no way some low lvl emantor a problem for Welt.
@@Night_Times According to the lore, the velt can be killed with a knife (read the second eruption) and his strongest attack: a bunch of tanks and ships. He is definitely not stronger than the eminators of the path or the eon. (especially now)
man was literally a Herrscher
Herrschers are weak compared to the aeons in hsr tbh
@@maingrader4434We don't really know how they compare, considering we've not had the chance to fight or even meet one, outside of the Simulated Universe.
@@maingrader4434aeons are multi complex
Herrscher can go to outerversal
@@maingrader4434they literally use the same imaginary powers and have the same ideals/path restrictions, don't be delusional h3rd fan.
@@flame_ofhopei dont play hsr but im pretty sure herrschers draw power from the coccoon of finality and aeons dont
Welt with reason core and 100% star of eden:
*No concept of neg*
Isn't Eden the only one who could 100% Star of Eden?
@@Your_Local_WeirdWeebyeah. But its still close but nothing beats Eden when using it.
Ya if that happens then even the Aeons have no chance of beating him.
@crimsonex7575 What are you talking about 😂
Even in his prime, he would be begging by even the weakest Aeon
Aeons are fodder compared to herrschers
you're comparing people with a dude who can cut the culmination of space and time itself with a cane
the star of eden：？
@@CzeDJhe a ex god
@@tohandrew7314 ik
the come from star of eden tho and star of eden ability is to control gravity in a small radius not control time and space
Yep. That's what I came here to see and I wasn't disappointed, only further improved my already high likeness for Welt.
Hoping he back to his prime
same but it's kinda impossible since Kiana is sucking out every bit of honkai to seal it in HI3rd's moon, which is why every herrscher is literally sitting at 1% of their power
@@amadeus8343 just high on Copium, Kiana give back Welt powers which unlikely lol.
@@StrangerWorld77 No, you need to belive that Welt will be a gigachad and turn himself to the Aeon of Reason, then new characters can walk the path of Reason
@@stuffzluvverz_7665 lmfao
@@stuffzluvverz_7665bruh imagine if the aeon turn out to be herrscher that has ascended into cosmic level
Bro just hits em with
“Imaginary Technique: Purple.”
literally purple
Don't compare the god of kissing floor and Go/Jo.
They don’t know I’m the second herrcher of reason
Bronya is the 2nd Herrscher of reason tho
Ohhh oops 😅 @Artsshin33
@@Frostfire-o-Bronya is the third. Welt Joyce is the first. Welt Yang, whose real name is Joachim, took the Welt name and was Welt Joyce's successor.
*ahem*@@Frostfire-o- *AHEM* third *AHEM* Don't forget Joyce Welt pls bcs he first before Welt Yang followed by the famous HI3rd smarty Bronya
Joachim (Welt Yang) is the 1st Herrscher of Reason's (Welt Joyce) successor, Bronya (Who obtained the Herrscher core in one of Welt Yang's bubble universe in the sea of quanta) under Welt Yang's teaching learned to better utilize the power of the Herrscher of Reason. Eventually Bronya figures out the true meaning behind the HoR's power (unity of the will of 300,000 people) hence becoming the successor to Both Welt Yang and Welt Joyce's legacy becoming the True Herrscher of Reason (Herrscher of Truth)
Luocha : I'm here to give PTSD
Otto contervers
LOOOLLL UNDERRATED COMMENY 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Welt: And I Took that personally
Dan Heng: *Invites* *Luocha* *to* *visit* *the* *Astral* *Express*
Also Welt: “An I also took that personally”
Welt Lore wise : I can destroy planets and more 💪🔥
Welt Gameplay wise: I can slow you so much that you dont get to Attack 🐌😴
Welt gameplay wise is more of trolling the enemy
if you build him crit his do so much damage i cleare moc10 with him
I mean either way the enemy is destroyed before they can even move, just one is a bit more 'technical' than the other.
@@WarriorofRed true
This man is a former Herrscher, a Honkai GOD, of course he's capable of kicking everyone's asses no problem
He actually has his core back, meaning he's back to being the herrscher of reason
@@Lightning_God_kashimonope the core now transcended into truth
@@saimyintmyat9373 It reverted back
@@Lightning_God_kashimothe thing you’re thinking about is the star of eden which gives him herrscher of reason like powers
@@Ozpawnno, it is mentioned in apho2 that bronya give back the core to welt and it does revert back to core of reason because core of truth is just core of reason with its full potential unlocked being able to use the 300000 consciousness stored within it, and because of most of the honkai get sealed in the moon with kiana most of herrscher core have a really limited power
Guess what? Herrschers murder physics. How does Singularity Rebuild apparently works:
The Zeroth Law states: " The surface gravity, K of a stationary black hole is constant over the event horizon."
The Third Law states: "It is impossible by any procedure, no matter how idealized, to reduce K to zero by a finite sequence of operations."
With his singularity rebuild, however, Welt does exactly that. He basically reduces the K of his Black Hole to 0 which outright starts messing with time-space and creates a naked singularity.
"if one could reduce K to zero by a finite sequence of operations, then presumably one could carry the process further, thereby creating a naked singularity. If this were to happen there would be a breakdown of the assumption of asymptotic predictability which is the basis of many results in black hole theory, including the law that A cannot decrease. (A is the area of the Event Horizon)".
What is a naked singularity?
"A naked singularity could allow scientists to observe an infinitely dense material, which would under normal circumstances be impossible by the cosmic censorship hypothesis. Without an event horizon of any kind, some speculate that naked singularities could actually emit light."
Welt Yang is actually stronger because herrscher power. But ever since Honkai was sealed, he has little power and relies on the divine key
He don't use the divine key Star of eden (it was destroyed in the story of hi3) he use a copy that he created with the little HoR authority that he has left.
@@Kiana_Kaslana_ i know it's just a replica, but still good even though not as strong as the original
He's still definitely as strong as a herrscher though in raw power still. If he could create an entire army of machines before, with the power he has now, he can at least create a significant portion of that amount still. His greater knowledge and experience compared to his power in his prime probably puts him on an equal level to his old self
@@themustardman219 He is definitely weaker than his prime simply because he doesn't have his core and he can't use his herrscher authority to the full extent.
@@Kiana_Kaslana_ yeah I was saying that his raw power might be far less, but his skill and experience should be far more, enough to almost even it out
All the Aeons and stellaron hunters gonna be teaming up together if he got his core back 💀
Bro if he got his core back HSR Verse is done. Man was 11 dimensional in his prime and HSR Verse caps out at 4D-5D max.😂
he does have his core. bronya gave it back to him.
@crispybaguette4033 he has a replica core, not the actual one. Also, if Bronya gave it back, then Welt would have HoTr authority. Even with the 1% of Honkai energy left, Welt would ascend to HoTr.
You greatly underestimate Aeons. A Lord Ravager can destroy galaxies, but compared to Nanook, they're nothing
@@jakeblitzcoffie4859where does it say that the core was a replica?
If HSR didn't need to keep the game balanced,Welt would be one oneshoting everything in sight.
If you let him use his ult he would just erase entire planets by accident.
In other words he solos his verse (asides aeons and for now)
@@5ive6ix31 this is hsr welt not hi3
@@adollemelody1709 hsr welt is welt from hi 3 😂
@@adollemelody1709 they are the same welt bruh
@@Laylnye hsr welt weaker
@@reviewergabuts same welt age difference
Wish at some point of story man goes back to his TRUE power n can just show mc how powerful he is
He might accidentally destroy the verse if he went full power but sadly he lost his herrscher core and original divine key. The cane that he uses in HSR is a copy of his divine key that he created with the little of HoR authority that he had so it isn't as powerful as the original but it still gets the job done.
@@SpongeTheAbsoluteLol, even in prime he is not stronger than other hkrrshers, even weaker than any of them (except for Wendy). In prime, he will become a maximum as an eiminator of the path, which is strong, but also not directly the pinnacle of power.
If Welt still had his 100% Herrscher Power he will be a god in HSR. The power of the Herrscher of Reason is to create anything as long as the user knows the function, logic, structure, composition etc of it
So he's like if Momo from MHA was also God?
@@WarriorofRedmore like an unbinded by her powers momo, nothing he creates needs to be from his body or his energy, and once he’s made it he can control it at will. Momo still needs to operate what she creates like cannons or catapults
If he got more knowledge then he coulf make fcking aeons. Can’t defeat an aeon? Why not make one?!
@@Sorrow653 For that he would need to understand literally everything about them
From how they function to the matter they are made out of etc.
Wich to me seems quite literally impossible
IX: I am the embodiment of Black Holes
Welt Yang: Saids who?
I love Welt so much most of the reason im playing this game is because he is playable
i wish i can lose 50/50 for him
i tried to use the beginner banner but i got fucking ugly bailu
bailoser
@@cyb3r_81 u can still get whoever u want after 300 pulls big plus than genshin impact
@@shadowscythechampion5365 ik , but damn thats gonna take a while
@@cyb3r_81 yeah...
Fax🔥...in Hi3 comic/manga he can crash between the valkyrie dimension and the honkai dimension using only 0,5% of his power...He can also absorb mass so quickly that even light is absorbed...Even when he was still in the Middle Ages, Welt was able to recall a universal dimensional cube that had been sealed...He was also able to neutralize the absolute destruction caused by Serin...even he only used 5% to 10% of his power to return the universe...even when in his glory days he was able to touch the hypeversal lvl...he can even break through absolute barriers easily...In normal/base mode his own strength is stated to be almost equivalent to Herrscher...you could say he is an ex-god
Welt: Its called Honkai Star Rail, and I have more Honkai power than you could ever imagine.
i only just now thought how that while kafka and all them are technically enemies welt could probably destroy them instantly if he really wanted to welt is probably the only one that can defy elio’s script i don’t even think he has a part in the script so welt is the only unknown and unplanned variable which could actually lead to us possibly breaking the script
I want that to happen now. Not only do I love Welt but I'm also so tired of hearing about Elio's damn scripts *glares at Kafka* Also that would just be badass
Where did you get any of this from, besides fanfiction
@@Definitely_Not_an_Alien well for starters welt is from the honkai impact 3rd universe and that he ended up in the honkai star rail universe when he entered a strange portal that appeared and closed soon after he left i forget exactly why he entered the portal he might have been chasing after someone else who also entered but i am pretty sure it’s in the manga/game for honkai impact 3rd about him entering a portal so welt’s arrival in star rail wasn’t planned nor was it seen in the script elio created there is another video i watched awhile back talking about all of this and you know bro can summon black holes with just a tap of his cane
Elio knows, he also knows that welt can't beat nanook solo. Hope we definitely see something great from welt though in the final battle.
Bro dropped the hardest Welt Yang edit and thought we wouldn’t notice
"Ever see a collapsing star?"
Clap everyone himeko aint dying this universe
yes. welt can still summon blackholes and alter the dimensional space around it. technically speaking welt can destroy the luofu with one black hole , he could really solo anyone still. he is an ex God and even Emanators could get destroyed. he just doesnt use his power much because it must be tiring to him. and remember welt went through a stelaron explosion ( at the begining of the game against the dragon of the void ) and stopped it with his cane
Welt: "YA'LL ARE JUST FROM A DIFFERENT UNIVERSE B-"
god i wanna see him do something in the luofu arc 😩
I read like to do something to loucha and i died
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Yeah dude doesn't do much based on the leaked CG in fact he was like out of commision well not really but like he was stunned. Jing Yuan and Dan heng carried the fight against the Emanator of destruction.
@@Ilikegames804makes sense for story, they can't just have an old character be the focus for a big moment
@@themustardman219im sure in the future there will be a time where he is one of the focused characters.
Since hoyo added him there that means he has a pretty big role in the story later involving the sky people
Bro March said 'wait until you see his power', and Welt didn't even show us his power😭
Well, I think it was for not destroying Luofu in its entirety
Here's my guy
Joachim: They don't know i'm the second herrscher of reason🤓😎
2.1 with the release of Acheron, she admitted that his cane is far more dangerous than her own blade
That cane is the Star of Eden, right?
@@mihacimpric745yep
This man literally make them catch the fade by imaging a army of super robots. He was a former god for a reason.
His knowledge is not to be underesimated either
Don't forget that for the power of reason to work he have to got an understand of what he want
So welt is a genius of
Physics / star of eden
Human body so science
Fighting
Strategic
Animation
Robotics
And human weapons possibly other since he is in space now
And also concepts such as the sea of quanta and him creating a prison/labyrinthe and imaginary tree
So yea even without power he is op
I’ve recently been thinking about something, technically. If the Welt in HSR is the same that in 3rd, this mean we still didn’t meet his HSR counterpart?! Imagine we meet his alternative version
No i think all mihoyo games play in the same universe
@@thenexus633its the same multiverse, but not universe
@@ohlordhecomming4777 its the same universe
@@petipeti1235 multiverse, it all takes place on the imaginary tree, and each leaf (branch?) Is a separate universe.
@@ohlordhecomming4777 if you are going by the EN translation many lore content creators have said that universe is a mistranslation of world
Everyone in star rail is lucky that welt only has access to 1 percent of his power
I mean he has that old Aizen look of course man is op
Hado number 90 os similar
100% accurate. It blows my mind that they literally did nothing with him in 3 patches. If he doesn't pop off in the next two patches I will drop HSR faster than you can say "Witness the shattering of stars".
he will have an full power form, just like everyone in the express is getting, and I WANT IT!
Welt is still stronger than Acheron
People still dont understand how strong Welt is even without him being in he s prime
@@AsroFXBRUH. 🗿🗿🗿
@@AsroFX simp anyways
Welt has a divine key and is the 1st Herrscher. He's already a god among humans in HSR. Sure his powers are passed onto Bronya Zaychik but still lorewise he's extremely dangerous and powerful compared to a lot of characters.
@@killercookie8540Welt's whole problem is that his core of Herreshra has weakened with the advent of Herreshra End. The Welt itself resonates less than 50% with the core of the Herreshr, which is why it is weaker. He cannot use his key thoughtlessly, as it is a restriction on use. He was unable to defeat the Deer of Plenty, which already shows his weakness. After the events of honkai 3, he became weak, he has only experience and a couple of chances to use a synthetic hole with a key. I wrote this from a translator.
she´s has literally beaten END and has both Origin and End power and its even an emanator, welt is nothing compared to her, even god welt, he could win against Kevin but acheron did beat him in this reality when he was END. So yeah, shes a lot stronger than him
@Dumsys
She literally can't kill him, he's will just reform from his core,she'd just get vaporized by the star of Eden
We don't talk about his prime-
Bro slapped genshin, hsr, and 90% of HI3RD
Ppl who don't know his past: 🤡
Well guess I'm a clown now-
@Bastard There's are some connections between the two like Welt that managed to travel to HSR universe. But overall, I agree, you don't really need to play HI3rd to understand about HSR.
@Bastard you dont indeed, But APHO arc in Hi3 and Alien space manga served as Prequel for HSR tho
And you who know but are still so dumb to think HI3 and HSR have the same power scales.
yes
YOU KNOW NOTHING OF THE WEIGHT BEHIND THIS POWER
Herrscher of Reason's power of creating anything from nothing based on his understanding + Sea of knowledge he possesses right now = Future Powered-Up version of Welt in HSR.
The Aizen of Honkai world.
Prime Welt (HI3 Welt) can solo everyone in verse, even the aeons
Fax
well, it depends on which aeons i think
@27.raihandwi.f28 Nah, the Aeons max out at Multi Galaxy level to Universal 5D. Welt in his prime had multiversal level hax, Multi Solarsystem level AP, and 11D dimensionality. He would neg the Aeons in prime.
@@jakeblitzcoffie4859 now you say that, yeah, it's possible
Bro made a fire edit on Welt and thought we wouldn't notice.
Hydrogen bomb vs crying baby ahh video.
Welt can cannonically just summon 100 nukes so i dont think anyones winning
Realistically speaking acheron is probably the only playable character that even has a chance
guys! stop bullying those newbie players when it comes to honkai universe lore, it's pointless to fight if the others can't understand what we're talking about, they're just a babies
Worst part is those ones that Underscale the entirety of the HI3verse to a measly Solar System lmao (yes, those people exist)
@@aspectprojectionUnfortunately they do....
@@aspectprojection so true!
Welt is the type of person who'd cut half of the entire universe and dealing only 150 dmg
Fr🗿
@@adiyulianto5796He Don't Wanna Hurt Small Living Creatures
Old Aurelion sol sweating buckets rn
I swear they need to buff welt to do as much damage as Archeron to make it accurate
If he had his full power, the game would've been over in 5 seconds max
Star of Eden, 2nd Herrscher of Reason, Literally a Human God, will solo 99.9% of everyone.
My reason for installing hsr was solely because of welt lol. And thankfully i have him too ingame.
Its fact that he is the strongest based on lore, but he also cut a planet in half just to deal 7k damage
Man is on a whole other level compared to everyone else in HSR but doesn't boast or anything like that. What a guy.
Welt in lore: the second herrscher of reason and can summon blackholes at will
Welt in game: summons a black hole that only deals 2k dmg
That's why I love him, he's my main.
Brace yourself for gravitational disintegration
Welt at his prime can easily destroy the whole hsr universe
IX: Go and show them, old man.
Welt: S U C C
"Beware of an old man in a profession where men usually die young" KeBin Lacz
Bro is that one uncle that is just op af
Not really, no
Welt threatening Acheron : 🗿
Welt would've gotten his ass handed to him on a silver platter marinated with sprinkles of his Herrscher core
Star of Eden can only manipulates gravity and cannot create black holes, the black holes purely came from Welt's Herrscher of Reason power.
He understood how a black hole works but lacking the device to amplify it hence Star of Eden came into the picture, it amplifies the power of his black hole.
Aeons? Prime Welt would just spam black holes to delete them all.
Not only that, Prime Welt is 11D, so he can exist on higher dimensional planes than the Aeons. He could also just create anything he learned about. Heck, if he figured out how an Aeon worked, he could just create an army of Aeons for fun. 😂
@@jakeblitzcoffie4859don't know where you two got this information from. Welt can only create things that he understands how they are constructed hell even Bronya had trouble understanding the power of Reason and it was thanks to Welt that she understood how to use it. The Star of Eden CAN create a black hole. I doubt you two have even seen the OG star of Eden as in the form that it takes of a ball.
@petipeti1235 Idk what you're going on about, but I'm not disagreeing with anything you just said. I play both Hi3 and HSR. I've been playing Hi3 for years, so I already know what you're talking about. 🤷
@@petipeti1235 don't try to be smart and explaining stuffs to Honkai vets kiddo
@@jakeblitzcoffie4859 yep, Prime Welt would be too OP in HSR universe.
It’s cool how he’s literally god but is just like, “nah, I wanna watch.”
Yeah, pretty much. I want to see him actually do something for once. The closest he has gotten to showing his power off his threatening Acheron. Even in the newest Penacony update, the dude just holds back and watches. I'm kinda tired of this defenseless facade he puts on every new planet. Even against Sunday, he chose not to one-shot him. 😂
He can easily delete an entire planet just a whoosh of his cane
and this guy are already nerfed soo much, imagine if he still in his prime with his full herrscherr power
this guy are the entire civilization personified
The real question is that is he comparing Welt in HSR state or is he using Welt prime state(Honkai impact), either way he still quite literally destroys them all
in HSR still op af , he still own Eden Star
@@NegetoriHelio ye but he only have barely 1% HoR power, he is quite literally only have Star of Eden to use as weapon and nothing else rn
@@NegetoriHelioain't the Eden star in his hand just a replica?
@@charadreamer6704star of Eden is a replica so he just uses 10% of the herrscher power he had
@@Zenikiel No , it real
While I doubt he is as strong as he was in Hi3 universe, but I don't doubt him being stronger than any of the characters in the game.
in term of gameplay yeah for sure, hoyo just nerf him so bad cuz he is starter character
a blackhole with grape size can swallow the whole planet and Welt actually creates one with just a blink of eyes
I believe that Welt will be helping us beating the shit out of Nanook by using his powers, even though he's not HoR anymore
Second eruption welt yang was built different
Man literally refused to die 3 times
Welt is actually just average Finn we all can create blackholes.
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Everyone gangsta until he goes up against the Honkai impact herrshers💀
Kiana watching HSR universe: 🍿
he basically could solo like 90% of the HI3 Verse in his PEAK Prime state
@newohrel Maybe not 90% but like, 60%.
At this point "No diff" is a compliment.
HSR players who didn't play Hi3 be like: Woah😯 he uses black hole as an attack that's so op!!!
Hi3 players be like: ohhh... well anyway🥱
Right? 😂
That’s only like… 0.01% of his power🤧
@@Thatmoosecaishen black hole isnt even his power, its the star of eden's power or should i say the authority of stars
That why we never make our granpa mad or else he gonna destory da planet
Dude can literally jump universe
Little did they know, that was only just a small fraction of 'Houkai'.
"Houkai" is not a form of power or energy. It's a mechanism that is present in order to balance out creation through destruction of weaker worlds.
Little did you know that
As for Welt's abilities, he uses the star of eden the most since he is not compatible with his core
I just saw a video about his lore, and ngl, the moment you paired Welt against Hook i chuckled
He is probably stronger than the aeons except finality 💀
Maybe in his prime but I doubt in star rail he is stronger than aeons.
I feel like Welt would unleash his true power just because Himeko got a scratch
the old herscher of reason : welt
bro literally ex-god
He's a herrscher and berrscher is someone who is mostly relatable to godly power, 🤓
Literally any character from HI3 is at LEAST a Aeons tier in HSR, not all but most are
HI3 verse basically stronger than HSR
It is because of dimensionality and higher cosmology, especially due to Finality.
Yep, and yet i see people downscaling TF outta HI3 Verse to only a World and the Imaginary Tree is a single Universe, some even say the Astral Express travels through WORLDS 😭
He is actually so bad ass. He bacame my fav the moment i got him
Waiting for him to do some madness
If something Dangerous approach Himeko, we will see Welt in Action
Lore wise welt is pretty OP as he is a holder of a divine key 9th to be precise
Welt once said " You know nothing of the weight behind this power , witness the star shatter before you .SURVIVE or BE DESTROYED there is no other choice "