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  • @JessicaTheEm
    @JessicaTheEm 16 дней назад +2924

    The "wizard" totally has "meta magic adept feat"

    • @halliktom1
      @halliktom1 15 дней назад +20

      That wouldn't work on fireball tho

    • @bastionsea2829
      @bastionsea2829 15 дней назад +16

      Or the wizard has multiclassed

    • @JessicaTheEm
      @JessicaTheEm 15 дней назад +72

      @@halliktom1 meta magic adept gives the player 2 sorcery points and you get 2 meta magic options of your choice from the sorcerer class. The "wizard" can just lie and say he gets sorcery points from meta magic adept

    • @Helthegrim
      @Helthegrim 15 дней назад +27

      While this is a possibility, the fact is Careful Spell still applies half damage as it only makes it a successful save, unlike Scuplt Spell for the Evocation Wizard, which is no damage on top of Successful save

    • @halliktom1
      @halliktom1 15 дней назад +4

      @@JessicaTheEmSorry. I meant it wouldn't make the spell do no damage. you can use metamagic to make a chosen creature automatically succeeds on its saving throw against the spell.but even on a succsess firabal does damage.

  • @bray2964
    @bray2964 16 дней назад +1843

    The thick plottens

    • @dazzlemasseur
      @dazzlemasseur 15 дней назад +3

      Umm actually it's "the plot thickens"

    • @LightningWolfTabaxi
      @LightningWolfTabaxi 15 дней назад +33

      ​@@dazzlemasseur umm actually they meant to do that

    • @CreativityNull
      @CreativityNull 15 дней назад +22

      The thick are plotting

    • @Merilirem
      @Merilirem 15 дней назад +7

      @@CreativityNull Trying to avoid getting clapped as usual.

    • @Dragowolf_Rising
      @Dragowolf_Rising 15 дней назад +10

      ​@@CreativityNullif they're plotting to get thicc I approve.

  • @kleut69
    @kleut69 16 дней назад +1768

    HE IS A SORCERER THE ROGUE HAS EVASION SO WHEN THE SPELL WAS CAREFULLED HE TOOK NO DAMAGE

    • @user-pk9vh4yz4t
      @user-pk9vh4yz4t 16 дней назад +118

      I was wondering if anyone else noticed that

    • @raphaelregnault6914
      @raphaelregnault6914 16 дней назад +106

      That's a double bluff ! No ! A triple Bluff !

    • @spearghost225
      @spearghost225 16 дней назад +102

      Unless the rogue secretly wasn't a rogue, or is too low of a level in rogue to have evasion. Considering how the rogue was shocked at not taking half damage despite 'having' evasion and the wizard saying that he set up a careful spell, then he shouldn't be surprised unless he doesn't have Evasion yet, or he's bluffing about being a Rogue.
      This especially applies if he's a high dex one, like Rogues commonly are. It prob wouldn't be hard to pass the saving throw anyways if he has high dex like I assume.

    • @hirolivingstonstanbery3545
      @hirolivingstonstanbery3545 16 дней назад +25

      He's a rogue/warlock multiclass so he doesn't have evasion.

    • @elementual
      @elementual 16 дней назад +32

      @@hirolivingstonstanbery3545so you know for a fact he's low level? He only took two levels in warlock.

  • @ObiwanNekody
    @ObiwanNekody 16 дней назад +500

    Betcha the hat lets him use that ability once a day and he's actually a bard.

    • @rikospostmodernlife
      @rikospostmodernlife 15 дней назад +8

      Actor bard, acts like a wizard for his magic to work (?)

    • @Aesthetic_Walrus
      @Aesthetic_Walrus 15 дней назад +3

      Said it before and I'll say it again: Bard with cool hat.

    • @Merilirem
      @Merilirem 15 дней назад +3

      @@rikospostmodernlife He's just a lore bard.

  • @enavy04
    @enavy04 15 дней назад +201

    Plot twist. He's actually a sorcerer, but he thinks he's a wizard. That's why he messes things up, but the magic still works. He's not lying, he's just unaware.

    • @cub_q
      @cub_q 12 дней назад +4

      He would be lying unintentionally

    • @eugenides04
      @eugenides04 11 дней назад +8

      I did this as a character once. His "spellbook" was a book of spell scrolls given to him by his mentor. No matter what anyone tried to do to convince him that he was a Sorcerer, not a Wizard, he just assumed they were confused because *he* had a Spellbook. And everyone knows only Wizards use spellbooks.

    • @edwardhealey591
      @edwardhealey591 9 дней назад +3

      ​@@cub_q you can't "lie" unintentionally.
      In order to lie you have to know that you aren't telling the truth.
      Thinking they are a wizard in this case and presenting themselves as such means that they are just wrong and not lying.

    • @Munchkin.Of.Pern09
      @Munchkin.Of.Pern09 6 дней назад +2

      @@edwardhealey591 Agreed. What they were arguing was “unintentional lying” was just “being wrong”.

    • @fanofmetal1
      @fanofmetal1 10 часов назад

      That sounds like a very fun character to play. You're a dude, playing a dude who thinks he is a different dude.

  • @kelph1
    @kelph1 16 дней назад +278

    Damn, Evoker coming in hot and ready to shake down

  • @user-Reader_of_ALL
    @user-Reader_of_ALL 16 дней назад +25

    "did he use a potion of maximum power to prove the point ?"
    BADAS WISARD. like half of omni man

    • @erikkesler1739
      @erikkesler1739 14 дней назад +1

      What makes this even better is he could still be lying because at level 9 (rogue 7 warlock 2) the rogue would have evasion

  • @dredgendorchadas6770
    @dredgendorchadas6770 16 дней назад +99

    Little do they know, he is ALSO a sorcerer, red dragon to be specific

    • @thetrueshadowking
      @thetrueshadowking 15 дней назад +3

      Why red. Gold and bronze dragons are also fire element dragons.

    • @dredgendorchadas6770
      @dredgendorchadas6770 15 дней назад +11

      @thetrueshadowking because upon slaying a red dragon he used it's blood to make a similacrum of it and forgot to wash his hands causing his blood and the dragons blood to mix in a way most un-fitting of a wizard.
      Or it's because red dragons are the most iconic of the dragons in dnd

    • @erikkesler1739
      @erikkesler1739 14 дней назад +2

      He could be pure sorcerer assuming they are above or ay level level 9. Evasion exists (the rogue has 2 levels of warlock)

    • @erikkesler1739
      @erikkesler1739 14 дней назад +1

      He could just be pure sorcerer and the rogue has evasion

  • @Robotic_model_234
    @Robotic_model_234 16 дней назад +40

    I just love this story

  • @loscreed
    @loscreed 16 дней назад +71

    The warlock/Rogue should have evasion, no? A previous video established that he only had a couple levels in warlock and if the party is high enough for 9th level spells then I would think he would have evasion. I think the "Wizard" just gaslit him.

    • @Cinderblocksally
      @Cinderblocksally 15 дней назад +24

      If they have 7 levels in rogue, they have evasion.

    • @bastionsea2829
      @bastionsea2829 15 дней назад +5

      Evasion halves the damage of a failed throw,he automatically failed the throw, but took no damage

    • @loscreed
      @loscreed 15 дней назад +8

      @bastionsea2829 No, I think the wizard said he used a sorcery point so that he automatically succeeded. He could have meant failure, though, I suppose.

    • @bastionsea2829
      @bastionsea2829 15 дней назад +2

      @@loscreed Edgelord automatically failed by not trying to dodge. Given that he was surprised,he didn't even try

    • @loscreed
      @loscreed 15 дней назад +8

      ​@bastionsea2829 from 5ewiki
      Careful Spell. When you cast a spell that forces other creatures to make a saving throw, you can protect some of those creatures from the spell's full force. To do so, you spend 1 sorcery point and choose a number of those creatures up to your Charisma modifier (minimum of one creature). A chosen creature automatically succeeds on its saving throw against the spell.

  • @femdroid6389
    @femdroid6389 16 дней назад +40

    Oh shit we getting good

  • @Buff_Papa_Smurf
    @Buff_Papa_Smurf 16 дней назад +65

    He's just in a silly mood

  • @Unicronsupreme
    @Unicronsupreme 16 дней назад +7

    I thought the twist was going to be that edge lord didn't take half damage because of evasion.

  • @adinnnightrode351
    @adinnnightrode351 16 дней назад +34

    Sounds like a typical night at my table

  • @croissant2434
    @croissant2434 16 дней назад +31

    when someone is so insistent in proving you are wrong
    you either go all in to make a point.
    or you are going to have them as a problem for a very long time.

    • @erikkesler1739
      @erikkesler1739 14 дней назад +1

      He didn't prove his point the rogue likely has evasion

    • @croissant2434
      @croissant2434 14 дней назад

      @@erikkesler1739 from what i remember peoples saying
      They are low level (i think level 5?) and he is a multiclass warlock rogue.
      So they can't have evasion.
      Tho yes, if they where it would also work.

    • @dustgraystone9448
      @dustgraystone9448 14 дней назад

      ​@@croissant2434good thing then that the creator has said they are all 9th level. Making Nin-Rogue/Warlock be lv 7/2.
      Unfortunately he said it under another comment.

    • @dustgraystone9448
      @dustgraystone9448 14 дней назад

      ​@@croissant2434Kleut69's comment.

    • @croissant2434
      @croissant2434 14 дней назад

      @@dustgraystone9448 i stand corrected then
      I didn't saw that comment, so thanks for letting le know.

  • @richardkirkland6805
    @richardkirkland6805 16 дней назад +8

    Bro forgot he was a Rogue. (Evasion makes it so you avoid all damage on a successful save)

    • @zogar8526
      @zogar8526 16 дней назад +2

      I'm willing to bet hat is the joke, though isn't it possible he doesn't have that yet? He is multiclassed with warlock. And I don't know 5th edition well, but in 3.5 rogues got evasion, but it wasn't till a later level, so his rogue level could be low enough to not have it.

    • @stasluzgin3212
      @stasluzgin3212 16 дней назад +2

      @@zogar8526 it was mentioned previously that Edge Lord has 2 levels in warlock. Wizard was asking questions about level 9 spells, which presumably means that they are going to get them in a couple of levels max. Wizards get 9th level spells on character level 17, and CR for Adult Red Dragon is 17 as well. Since they are having active preparation for the boss fight, it means that they are almost ready power-wise. I would assume, level 13 - 15, if not higher.
      If they are all level 13+, Edge Lord will have 2 levels in warlock and 11+ in rogue. Evasion in 5e is level 7 feature, so yes, he should have evasion

    • @zogar8526
      @zogar8526 16 дней назад +1

      @stasluzgin3212 I thought I'd caught them all, but I missed it saying there are only 2 levels in warlock. Considering they normally call him "warlock", I just assumed that was his highest level class. But with only 2 levels, yeah, definitely has enough rogue levels for evasion.

    • @Cinderblocksally
      @Cinderblocksally 15 дней назад +2

      @@stasluzgin3212 is daydreaming about 9th level spells an indicator that you are close to getting them?

    • @stasluzgin3212
      @stasluzgin3212 15 дней назад

      @@Cinderblocksally I interpreted it like he was actively thinking of which one to choose.
      I described some of the other factors in my other comment, but the main argument is the fact that they are actively preparing for a fight with CR 17+ bbeg. If they are severely underleveled, just preparation and information about dragons won't help. They need to gain experience, but they are not doing other quests, just dragon research. That's why I assumed that they are higher level

  • @connerchadwick823
    @connerchadwick823 16 дней назад +10

    Loving the series bro

  • @louiesatterwhite3885
    @louiesatterwhite3885 15 дней назад +3

    Tiefling warlock eating that fireball for breakfast

  • @torin725
    @torin725 16 дней назад +4

    A wizard with Metamagic Adept just to mess with him lol😊

  • @bm1747
    @bm1747 4 часа назад +1

    I love a Wizard saying "I cast mage armor" like he's cocking a shotgun.

  • @connorjohnson8590
    @connorjohnson8590 15 дней назад +1

    Plot twist, he’s a fiendish warlock and knew the rogue had evasion and 50/50d him taking damage or ‘proving’ he’s an evocation wizard

  • @londiebanks4738
    @londiebanks4738 16 дней назад +2

    All your stuff is awesome, but these are my new favorites, good work man,

  • @Dualbladedscorpion7737
    @Dualbladedscorpion7737 16 дней назад +4

    Meanwhile the Barbarian: *AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!!!*

  • @Maninawig
    @Maninawig 16 дней назад +1

    Ok, this reminds me of the fun builds where one class acts like another.... for instance the monastic barbarian or the barbaric monk.

  • @Thudd224
    @Thudd224 16 дней назад +2

    Oh, he cast the mage armor on rougelock

  • @jamielishbrook2384
    @jamielishbrook2384 День назад

    Dude I love the little tag still dangling on the wizard hat lmao

  • @everettshropshire8428
    @everettshropshire8428 16 дней назад +5

    Well what about him not having a Spell book?

  • @angelolopez2137
    @angelolopez2137 16 дней назад +1

    I love this

  • @aarons9961
    @aarons9961 14 дней назад

    "I cast true polymorph. You are a now a copper coin. Have fun being passed around by grubby little hands for eternity"

  • @The5lacker
    @The5lacker 14 дней назад

    "Maybe we shouldn't do this."
    "Hold on a minute, this whole thing was your idea."

  • @Allesef
    @Allesef 16 дней назад +4

    Okay, I know you're doing this on purpose, but if the rogue warlock is at least 7 levels in rogue they have "evasion" and won't take damage from fireball on a successful save.

    • @Cinderblocksally
      @Cinderblocksally 15 дней назад +1

      If they have 7 levels in rogue, that is all very true.

  • @pablorosada9788
    @pablorosada9788 13 дней назад

    Dragon: "I'm being polite. I'm being very polite right now"

  • @rabbidninja79
    @rabbidninja79 2 дня назад

    Really enjoying this new format.

  • @Feralhyena
    @Feralhyena 13 дней назад

    This Warlock has a very different appraisal of his relationship with that particular Wizard.

  • @lostmemorygaming
    @lostmemorygaming 14 дней назад

    Necromancer in secret.
    Paladin: I know what you are "wizard". Zone of truth.

  • @joshreid1822
    @joshreid1822 16 дней назад +1

    I need more of this!

  • @michaelc8179
    @michaelc8179 15 дней назад

    Best conclusion!!! Keep them coming!!

  • @sauldickson4079
    @sauldickson4079 15 дней назад +2

    “I have no secrets,” and “I am a wizard,” are incompatible statements.

  • @sunsinger970
    @sunsinger970 15 дней назад +1

    That's unhinged

  • @yuvalamir3226
    @yuvalamir3226 13 дней назад

    Was expecting him to say he got the sorcery points from the feat Metamagic Adept

  • @EmanuelAliceaSantiago
    @EmanuelAliceaSantiago 15 дней назад

    Lmao! This is awesome ❤.

  • @Zelmel
    @Zelmel 15 дней назад +1

    He's still a sorcerer and probably the BBEG

  • @KiallVunMyeret
    @KiallVunMyeret 11 дней назад

    Plot twist, he is a sorcerer but from the 2024 player handbook who traveled back in time without realising

  • @drakeyork241
    @drakeyork241 15 дней назад +2

    8th level total for the party, must be. The rogue has 2 levels in warlock and gets evasion at 7th in rogue meaning he is 6th or lower in rogue however the wizard casts fireball a whole lot implying that they have several spell slots at third or higher meaning just getting to 5th isn’t an option, and they are going to fight an adult dragon which implies they have some level of power which leads me to believe they are on the higher end of the 6th to 8th range and thus they are 8th level

  • @bravefencerkonpaky6844
    @bravefencerkonpaky6844 13 дней назад

    In the new PHB Evocation Wizard's Sculpt Spell has been moved up higher than when the Rogue gets evasion

  • @omarabdulrahman9923
    @omarabdulrahman9923 14 дней назад

    Had a guy who's was an evocation wizard that dude was casting fireball with us in it burning the BBEG and not us😂

  • @simonquintana5098
    @simonquintana5098 15 дней назад +2

    Has nobody thinked that he can be a multiclass?

    • @Aesthetic_Walrus
      @Aesthetic_Walrus 15 дней назад

      Sorcerer + Warlock = Sorlock.
      Wizard + Bard = Wizard.
      He's multiclassing in plain sight and nobody knows...😂

  • @Xeziok
    @Xeziok 12 дней назад

    That is petty and i appreciate that. 😂

  • @dragon22214
    @dragon22214 14 дней назад

    As Long as tge power the wizard has being used towards my goals i couldn't Care less what secrets he had

  • @davidpaikins3172
    @davidpaikins3172 10 дней назад

    Plot twist this is when the players are too metagamy for the table

  • @nathanlamberth7631
    @nathanlamberth7631 15 дней назад

    The thing about trust is that it ceases to be trust once evidence is provided/ needed

  • @WillRennar
    @WillRennar 8 дней назад

    "I cast April Fool's."

  • @thislink1519
    @thislink1519 5 дней назад

    Casting fireball while the Marshals are in melee is the only thing that the evocation subclass is used for. (other than magic missile).

  • @MyStar7889
    @MyStar7889 9 дней назад

    Does anybody else hear the crackling of the fireball from the start of the video?

  • @SirFluffy100
    @SirFluffy100 13 дней назад

    DIDNT WATCH, all i could think of, was putting a toy goldfish on the end of that hook 🐟 😂😂😂

  • @FeatherMelody
    @FeatherMelody 15 дней назад

    plot twist. it was an illusion spell.

  • @jusquanorthwind1016
    @jusquanorthwind1016 13 дней назад

    My 3.5 Kobold is a Sorcerer/Wizard multiclass with the Prestige Class Ultimate Magus. He’d definitely pull this kind of shenanigans when people get pedantic about magic when the source literally doesn’t matter when you’re casting the same spells.

  • @Davidlee37101
    @Davidlee37101 12 дней назад

    The wizard hat has a plot hook.

  • @yugoxgc
    @yugoxgc 15 дней назад

    The petty is strong with this one

  • @FaytVanguard
    @FaytVanguard 15 дней назад

    Just waiting for the Dragon to call the Wizard "son."

  • @hana_ja
    @hana_ja 15 дней назад

    That’s so badass holy shit

  • @jmail1984
    @jmail1984 15 дней назад

    Yo, is this my new favorite show now? 🎉😂😂😂❤

  • @liallen9380
    @liallen9380 15 дней назад

    Thou starteth none, there shalt BE none. The true law of adventuring.

  • @BookwormDCR
    @BookwormDCR 13 дней назад

    YES!!!! FINALLY someone points out evocation wizards!!! AHHHHH SERIOUSLY PEOPLE!!

  • @pipsqueek89
    @pipsqueek89 14 дней назад

    he's obviously a wizard
    he wears a pointy hat

  • @SmurfeyBlues
    @SmurfeyBlues 15 дней назад

    Sorcerer rolls a nat 20 deception. 👌

  • @LyokoBarbossa
    @LyokoBarbossa 15 дней назад +1

    So, canonically, the dipstix (name of the party) are between 5th and 6th levels and are going up against a dragon.
    That would mean the Edgelord wouldn't have Evasion yet...
    Which means the Wizard IS a Wizard -- One with Metamagic Adept and the training of the School of Evocation.

  • @baseupp12
    @baseupp12 15 дней назад

    Hes a clockwork soul sorcerer I would know my sorcerer brothers anywhere

  • @akitosorogoma2552
    @akitosorogoma2552 16 дней назад

    Take him up on the threat. If he dies to 1d4 going outside dmg, he's a wizard.

  • @TheNeilBlack
    @TheNeilBlack 15 дней назад

    Clearly wizard is multiclassed wizard and sorcerer.

  • @WargenWalrus
    @WargenWalrus 14 дней назад

    He's actually using the Charlatan Prestige Class

  • @JeremySmyth-cy2pc
    @JeremySmyth-cy2pc 23 часа назад

    Wizards are nerds, sorcerers are gifted, warlocks are cultists

  • @theblackdragon4424
    @theblackdragon4424 12 дней назад

    A maximum power point you might say?!

  • @jamesduncan4105
    @jamesduncan4105 10 дней назад

    Hmm I did not know if this ability... Good to know

  • @fivelike11
    @fivelike11 14 дней назад

    Tbf him using one specific fireball combo doesn't necessarily invalidate all past occurrences being weird depending on the specific scenarios

  • @KuaEtus
    @KuaEtus 15 дней назад

    To do a power move, you need maximum power 👍🏻

  • @McGrewer
    @McGrewer 13 дней назад

    the whole thing was an illusion.

  • @airlag
    @airlag 15 дней назад

    I had a few players in the past 45 years who tended to tell others how to play their character. Unfortunately it never ended in such a nice in-game situation.

  • @Summer-sb5ix
    @Summer-sb5ix 13 дней назад

    The forshadowing OT

  • @leyrua
    @leyrua 15 часов назад

    He's actually an infernal Warlock, and he was lying about you taking no damage. However his charisma is high enough to persuade you that you are only _imagining_ your flesh burning.

  • @datthikboi5608
    @datthikboi5608 13 дней назад

    I HAVE THAT WIZARD HAT

  • @MidnightFallen16
    @MidnightFallen16 4 дня назад

    Last time a warlock (me) fought woth a wizard (other party member), the fight ended with one turn of eldritch blast lol

  • @DisturbedGeneration
    @DisturbedGeneration 6 часов назад

    Two types of dnd players.
    One: **never uses the potion of maximum power Because** "there might be a bigger baddie"
    Two: **chugs the damn potion to prove a small point to a fellow player**

  • @douglaspope-gz1eq
    @douglaspope-gz1eq 16 дней назад +3

    The hell does a potion of maximum power do?

    • @Cinderblocksally
      @Cinderblocksally 15 дней назад +4

      Makes your next spell deal max damage instead of rolling dice.

  • @TralliE
    @TralliE 14 дней назад

    I say he's also a warlock.

  • @chameleonx9253
    @chameleonx9253 2 дня назад

    The Warlock casts Darkness on the Wizard's spellcasting focus, then moves to within 10ft of the Wizard. Now the wizard can't cast any spells that require him to see the target, and the darkness follows him unless he drops his focus (meaning he can't cast any spells with material components).
    The Warlock has Devil Sight.
    The Warlock casts Eldritch Blast until the wizard dies, saving his spell slots to Counterspell any attempts by the wizard to dispell the darkness.

  • @menelik6635
    @menelik6635 16 дней назад

    I WOULD WALK AWAY FROM A TABLE WITH THE WIZARD

  • @christopheroneill77
    @christopheroneill77 16 дней назад

    video potions 1/2 off or free with a transmutation specialty

  • @gaara0326
    @gaara0326 5 дней назад

    Used a potion of maximum power to prove a point? Definitely a wizard

  • @lluccanela3212
    @lluccanela3212 13 дней назад

    I think the potion let him do that and he is actually a sorcerer

  • @cthulhu2434
    @cthulhu2434 16 дней назад +2

    Aren't they a rogue? If they're high enough level succeeding on a dex save would make them take 0 damage due to evasion. Does this fireball really prove anything? I'm not sure what level they are, though, so take my words with a grain of salt

  • @LilyJaneH
    @LilyJaneH 13 дней назад

    He’s a rogue warlock, if he’s got evasion, sculpt spell and careful spell would both result in him taking no damage

  • @Swagmessia58
    @Swagmessia58 15 дней назад

    Rick and Morty type shit

  • @krystalfruehling7522
    @krystalfruehling7522 День назад

    Great content.
    As far as 5e, they screwed up the spell casters. In 3.5 you could be a wizard or a sorcerer and use sculpt spell.

  • @megaconda07
    @megaconda07 4 дня назад

    The gaslighting is thick in this one

  • @HBHaga
    @HBHaga 16 дней назад

    The hat is the Wizard and the guy wearing it is just some low level Apprentice.

  • @isidorzweckstetter6111
    @isidorzweckstetter6111 14 дней назад

    Well without spoiling the fun, if no mistakes where made, i can confidently say that, after some research, i know if the wizard is actually a wizard or not

  • @tripolarmdisorder7696
    @tripolarmdisorder7696 16 дней назад +1

    He isn't a real wizard, he would have died from 1D4 "do I really have to prove I'm a wizard?" damage.

  • @paranoiKKristofer
    @paranoiKKristofer 16 дней назад

  • @thebillyd00
    @thebillyd00 6 дней назад

    I feel like theyd both benefit from an actual conversation around this rather than wizard demanding trust. It's hurtful not to be trusted, sure. But demanding trust when there is none only fuels resentment wnd further distrust.