Tucker had several contracts for Aircraft parts and construction projects. He had a contract to build a fighter plane in the mid 30's called the "pea shooter" but he missed some deadlines and it was cancelled. Most of the gauges in the dash are 1930 era aircraft gauges including a 300mph speedometer, tach and altimeter. Some of these gauges were produced in Buffalo NY, where the Pierce factory was located and where Preston Tucker worked at the time this car was created. That may be how a relatively brand new highline car chassis was used in this car's construction. There are a number of aircraft style construction techniques used as well. Again, leading potentially back to Tucker. Furthermore, Tucker was into plastics himself during this era and was attempting to try and pitch the military on using this new revolutionary substance. In the late 30's he built a small armored troop transport that went over 100mph with a plastic revolving machine gun turret on the roof. Several countries, including the US turned it down because it went to fast. After WWII broke out, the US stole his patent for the plexiglass (plastic) turret to use on bomber planes. However, it is my understanding that he was given the contract to make them for the military as a concession for stealing his patent. Tucker was also close friends with Harry Miller, the Indy car/engine builder and they teamed up to build Ford 10 Indy racers. Miller was big into aerodynamics and so was Tucker. So, Tucker was into aircraft, aerodynamics, aircraft construction, plastics, racing and in my opinion he but this car to show his bosses that the stodgy Pierce Arrows needed to move towards aerodynamics to streamline their cars and that a straight 8 could beat their new V12 with the help of a streamlined design. Then in 1931, the Silver Arrow, the FIRST production car with slab sides and no protruding front fenders was built by Pierce. All too much of a coincidence if you ask me.
Utterly fascinating, I hope you get the information you need, and, perhaps, enough documentation/photos etc that you can restore it to what it was supposed to be, even if it never runs...
May we assume the "tin foil" is to give the viewer some idea of the body shape? The other possibility is to keep the aliens from learning your future plans. Great find. Keep us apprised of your progress. Narragansett Bay.
I was scanning through RUclips and wow, found this! Amazing, and from 1931?!? And built by Tucker? That’s some wow factor. I hope you find info for this car, thanks for sharing.
@@jamesmclynasforpinellascou2158 Hope this happens! Interesting about the Silver Arrow. You have one of THEE coolest cars in the world. Looks like it weighs 5000 pounds!
It is actually very light for a land speed car with the frame/engine being the bulk of the weight. While most LSR cars were built like freight trains to keep them on the ground, this entire car is shaped like a wedge from front to back with a cam back to create down force. Which was state of the art aerodynamics at this time and only a handful of people understood, including Tucker.
Can't believe there's no info on something this weird. If you've been trying to get info on this thing for years, I'd start doing a series of videos focusing on every nook & cranny. Take the motor out and pour over every detail on video. Let people get a really good look at all the details like how it was pieced together, nuts and bolts used, welds, where the instruments came from and close ups of how the plastic body was constructed. Someone out there will know a tidbit or two on getting you closer to the truth. Better hurry, people with specific knowledge don't live forever.
My understanding is that the Silver Arrow started as a ahow car for another maker (GM?) Then abanson and the design/designer went to Pierce Arrow. So the 2 cars (the Pierce SA and this car) may not have any relation design wise.? Good luck in your pursuit, thank you for sharing......Any Pierce Arrow Club members out there??
You need to Contact Daytona/Halifax Historical Society( used to be in the old bank nuilding near Beach Street & Orange Avenue)...ask for access of the Lawson Diggit Photo Archives...I bet you could find ur car in there.
If I were you I'd try to get in touch with Jay Leno if any one can help you out with history on this incredible machine I'm pretty sure it will be Jay. I just love the fact that it's still here in Fla. Maybe you could bring it to the Turkey Rod Run in November @ the Daytona speedway put it on display make some info boards about the cars history and state looking for any info, pic's you get the idea. There's thousands of people that come to this event from all over US and the World. I think that would be your best bet it only takes one person to unlock the mystery. Plus the car will be back in Daytona! How cool is that! I'd love to see this historic vehicle. Cheers from Melbourne.
it strikes me as being inspired by the auto union cars of the period, like it looks german, like the 300 SL that Sterling Moss drove in the 50's, like look for some targio florio people and ask around there, as I bet this thing didnt come from here in this shape. and also look for the insturment maker, should give you an idea of where the part was sourced with the aircraft speedo, and maybe who did the work hell maybe it was inspired by the great failure the hindenberg, as it certainly looks like it, either that or Lindberg which I think WAS indinapolis, like take it out and look at the build mark behind it as it should have a part or a serial number behind it, as aircraft back then werent exactly common, and it could lead back to the builder as it looks like it was built like a plane
Tucker had several contracts for Aircraft parts and construction projects. He had a contract to build a fighter plane in the mid 30's called the "pea shooter" but he missed some deadlines and it was cancelled. Most of the gauges in the dash are 1930 era aircraft gauges including a 300mph speedometer, tach and altimeter. Some of these gauges were produced in Buffalo NY, where the Pierce factory was located and where Preston Tucker worked at the time this car was created. That may be how a relatively brand new highline car chassis was used in this car's construction. There are a number of aircraft style construction techniques used as well. Again, leading potentially back to Tucker. Furthermore, Tucker was into plastics himself during this era and was attempting to try and pitch the military on using this new revolutionary substance. In the late 30's he built a small armored troop transport that went over 100mph with a plastic revolving machine gun turret on the roof. Several countries, including the US turned it down because it went to fast. After WWII broke out, the US stole his patent for the plexiglass (plastic) turret to use on bomber planes. However, it is my understanding that he was given the contract to make them for the military as a concession for stealing his patent. Tucker was also close friends with Harry Miller, the Indy car/engine builder and they teamed up to build Ford 10 Indy racers. Miller was big into aerodynamics and so was Tucker. So, Tucker was into aircraft, aerodynamics, aircraft construction, plastics, racing and in my opinion he but this car to show his bosses that the stodgy Pierce Arrows needed to move towards aerodynamics to streamline their cars and that a straight 8 could beat their new V12 with the help of a streamlined design. Then in 1931, the Silver Arrow, the FIRST production car with slab sides and no protruding front fenders was built by Pierce. All too much of a coincidence if you ask me.
@@jamesmclynasforpinellascou2158 Oh fair enough, I just thought it looked alot like an Auto Union racer from the 30's that now that I'm thinking about it might have been after this the other thing is, is it possible that maybe some of this could be connected to the Phantom Corsair in some way or another, as its kinda got that same style and profile granted the fact that it looks like everything after it 20 years before it, kinda throws a monkey wrench into everything and to think the Tucker looks more like a Pierce arrow, and Tatra Hybrid with studibaker styling than a Corsair like this does
@@UndiscoveredClassicsUSA - Art Pollard claimed it was a RECORD CAR, The Pickers guys claimed it was a RECORD CAR, you claimed it was a RECORD CAR. If it didn't set ANY records - then stop calling it a RECORD CAR. This vehicle has been discussed on land racing forums for over a decades, and NO ONE had found ANYTHING about this ever running for a record, or even a record attempt. Daytona used to attract a ton of media coverage, and NO COVERAGE has been found. Your claim that Preston Tucker worked on it is completely unsubstantiated, yet you claim in the video that Tucker touched this car. So stop it. All you are trying to do is shine up the story in an attempt to cash in. If it was legit, I would have bought it back then.
Tucker had several contracts for Aircraft parts and construction projects. He had a contract to build a fighter plane in the mid 30's called the "pea shooter" but he missed some deadlines and it was cancelled. Most of the gauges in the dash are 1930 era aircraft gauges including a 300mph speedometer, tach and altimeter. Some of these gauges were produced in Buffalo NY, where the Pierce factory was located and where Preston Tucker worked at the time this car was created. That may be how a relatively brand new highline car chassis was used in this car's construction. There are a number of aircraft style construction techniques used as well. Again, leading potentially back to Tucker. Furthermore, Tucker was into plastics himself during this era and was attempting to try and pitch the military on using this new revolutionary substance. In the late 30's he built a small armored troop transport that went over 100mph with a plastic revolving machine gun turret on the roof. Several countries, including the US turned it down because it went to fast. After WWII broke out, the US stole his patent for the plexiglass (plastic) turret to use on bomber planes. However, it is my understanding that he was given the contract to make them for the military as a concession for stealing his patent. Tucker was also close friends with Harry Miller, the Indy car/engine builder and they teamed up to build Ford 10 Indy racers. Miller was big into aerodynamics and so was Tucker. So, Tucker was into aircraft, aerodynamics, aircraft construction, plastics, racing and in my opinion he but this car to show his bosses that the stodgy Pierce Arrows needed to move towards aerodynamics to streamline their cars and that a straight 8 could beat their new V12 with the help of a streamlined design. Then in 1931, the Silver Arrow, the FIRST production car with slab sides and no protruding front fenders was built by Pierce. All too much of a coincidence if you ask me.
Thanks for the additional context James, I'm sure our viewers appreciate it if they're reading along here too
The coachwork on the Pierce Arrow Silver Arrow was done by Studebaker craftsman. Studebaker owned Pierce Arrow at the time.
Utterly fascinating, I hope you get the information you need, and, perhaps, enough documentation/photos etc that you can restore it to what it was supposed to be, even if it never runs...
Nah, it will definitely run again and mechanically it is complete minus 4 carbs. I would love to hear that straight 8 through a straight pipe exhaust.
Intriguing! Would love to see it restored. Are there photos of it in its day?
We are offering $$ for period photos and $1,000 for anyone that can prove who built it. Don't have any yet.
May we assume the "tin foil" is to give the viewer some idea of the body shape? The other possibility is to keep the aliens from learning your future plans. Great find. Keep us apprised of your progress. Narragansett Bay.
Yes. I thought if the car's shape was more obvious, it might be more helpful for locating old period photos
I am offering a $1,000 reward for anyone who can prove who built this car. I will also pay for any period photos of this car.
I was scanning through RUclips and wow, found this! Amazing, and from 1931?!? And built by Tucker? That’s some wow factor. I hope you find info for this car, thanks for sharing.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Very cool thanks for sharing this
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Let’s face it : in 1931 there was nobody except Preston Tucker who could design a car like this .
Awesome story! We would love to connect sometime.
Any time. I can tell you why I think this car may have been built by Tucker, and you can tell me if any of it makes sense to you.
@@jamesmclynasforpinellascou2158 Hope this happens! Interesting about the Silver Arrow.
You have one of THEE coolest cars in the world. Looks like it weighs 5000 pounds!
It is actually very light for a land speed car with the frame/engine being the bulk of the weight. While most LSR cars were built like freight trains to keep them on the ground, this entire car is shaped like a wedge from front to back with a cam back to create down force. Which was state of the art aerodynamics at this time and only a handful of people understood, including Tucker.
3:08, the builder was obviously Reynolds Wrap.
This is amazing. Find history!
Still trying to find first hand documentation of the build, there’s always more research to be done!
Can't believe there's no info on something this weird. If you've been trying to get info on this thing for years, I'd start doing a series of videos focusing on every nook & cranny. Take the motor out and pour over every detail on video. Let people get a really good look at all the details like how it was pieced together, nuts and bolts used, welds, where the instruments came from and close ups of how the plastic body was constructed. Someone out there will know a tidbit or two on getting you closer to the truth. Better hurry, people with specific knowledge don't live forever.
My understanding is that the Silver Arrow started as a ahow car for another maker (GM?) Then abanson and the design/designer went to Pierce Arrow. So the 2 cars (the Pierce SA and this car) may not have any relation design wise.?
Good luck in your pursuit, thank you for sharing......Any Pierce Arrow Club members out there??
Thanks! We’ve made inquires with the Pierce Arrow Museum here in Buffalo and no luck there unfortunately
I like.
You need to Contact Daytona/Halifax Historical Society( used to be in the old bank nuilding near Beach Street & Orange Avenue)...ask for access of the Lawson Diggit Photo Archives...I bet you could find ur car in there.
Good advice, I wonder if James has done that already
If I were you I'd try to get in touch with Jay Leno if any one can help you out with history on this incredible machine I'm pretty sure it will be Jay.
I just love the fact that it's still here in Fla.
Maybe you could bring it to the Turkey Rod Run in November @ the Daytona speedway put it on display make some info boards about the cars history and state looking for any info, pic's you get the idea. There's thousands of people that come to this event from all over US and the World. I think that would be your best bet it only takes one person to unlock the mystery.
Plus the car will be back in Daytona! How cool is that!
I'd love to see this historic vehicle.
Cheers from Melbourne.
Both Leno and Francis Ford Coppola (who made the Tucker movie) have expressed interest if I could prove the connection.
Awesome to see we have viewers from all over the world, thanks!
Why is it covered in tinfoil...is it to stop aliens from nicking it😂
It was to give an idea of what the body would have looked like without going full restoration at this time
it strikes me as being inspired by the auto union cars of the period, like it looks german, like the 300 SL that Sterling Moss drove in the 50's, like look for some targio florio people and ask around there, as I bet this thing didnt come from here in this shape.
and also look for the insturment maker, should give you an idea of where the part was sourced with the aircraft speedo, and maybe who did the work
hell maybe it was inspired by the great failure the hindenberg, as it certainly looks like it, either that or Lindberg
which I think WAS indinapolis, like take it out and look at the build mark behind it as it should have a part or a serial number behind it, as aircraft back then werent exactly common, and it could lead back to the builder
as it looks like it was built like a plane
Tucker had several contracts for Aircraft parts and construction projects. He had a contract to build a fighter plane in the mid 30's called the "pea shooter" but he missed some deadlines and it was cancelled. Most of the gauges in the dash are 1930 era aircraft gauges including a 300mph speedometer, tach and altimeter. Some of these gauges were produced in Buffalo NY, where the Pierce factory was located and where Preston Tucker worked at the time this car was created. That may be how a relatively brand new highline car chassis was used in this car's construction. There are a number of aircraft style construction techniques used as well. Again, leading potentially back to Tucker. Furthermore, Tucker was into plastics himself during this era and was attempting to try and pitch the military on using this new revolutionary substance. In the late 30's he built a small armored troop transport that went over 100mph with a plastic revolving machine gun turret on the roof. Several countries, including the US turned it down because it went to fast. After WWII broke out, the US stole his patent for the plexiglass (plastic) turret to use on bomber planes. However, it is my understanding that he was given the contract to make them for the military as a concession for stealing his patent. Tucker was also close friends with Harry Miller, the Indy car/engine builder and they teamed up to build Ford 10 Indy racers. Miller was big into aerodynamics and so was Tucker. So, Tucker was into aircraft, aerodynamics, aircraft construction, plastics, racing and in my opinion he but this car to show his bosses that the stodgy Pierce Arrows needed to move towards aerodynamics to streamline their cars and that a straight 8 could beat their new V12 with the help of a streamlined design. Then in 1931, the Silver Arrow, the FIRST production car with slab sides and no protruding front fenders was built by Pierce. All too much of a coincidence if you ask me.
@@jamesmclynasforpinellascou2158 Oh fair enough, I just thought it looked alot like an Auto Union racer from the 30's that now that I'm thinking about it might have been after this
the other thing is, is it possible that maybe some of this could be connected to the Phantom Corsair in some way or another, as its kinda got that same style and profile
granted the fact that it looks like everything after it 20 years before it, kinda throws a monkey wrench into everything
and to think the Tucker looks more like a Pierce arrow, and Tatra Hybrid with studibaker styling than a Corsair like this does
I tried to buy this car from a guy name Pollard over 25 years ago. It NEVER set ANY records, so stop calling it that.
I don’t think anyone is claiming it set records, just that it ran or attempted to run
@@UndiscoveredClassicsUSA - Art Pollard claimed it was a RECORD CAR, The Pickers guys claimed it was a RECORD CAR, you claimed it was a RECORD CAR. If it didn't set ANY records - then stop calling it a RECORD CAR. This vehicle has been discussed on land racing forums for over a decades, and NO ONE had found ANYTHING about this ever running for a record, or even a record attempt. Daytona used to attract a ton of media coverage, and NO COVERAGE has been found. Your claim that Preston Tucker worked on it is completely unsubstantiated, yet you claim in the video that Tucker touched this car. So stop it. All you are trying to do is shine up the story in an attempt to cash in. If it was legit, I would have bought it back then.
Somebody is mad he didn't get it.
@@sharksport01 - No - someone is mad he was lied to. More than once.