@@laraprisma6381 I did say I wasn't certain also Briar was given power by the Black Rose not sure if that magic has any impact on mutes but if it does it could tie to this theory
Briar has a voiceline that *might* explain this: "When people talk about their first language, why isnt body language an option?" (Or something along these lines, i did not look up the precise voiceline, but I know she says something like this)
you probably already looked into this but: on the splashart of the skin "street demons briar" she got 3 X's on her weapon, one X on each shoe and two more X's on the graffiti in the background. Also the graffiti is pink and blue and she has some pink and blue in her outfit aswell. All of this and the fact that she even uses graffiti could relate back to the Isha times with Jinx. Also her voice in the cinematic sounds pretty similar to Jinx's
If it so that would be great, it's so cute to see how Isha continues to imitate Jinx after being resurrected A quick reminder: League of Legends lore is being actively rewritten, especially now after the release of Arcane. Let's not forget that in the original it was not Singed who was Oriana's father. A little lore information: Noxus actively uses blood magic to resurrect fighters and create bloodthirsty killing machines from them.
Okay, only point Im giving you, is the fact that at the end of the 2nd act noxus was made aware of alchemical monsters that singed created, so it could be possible that the Arcane version of Briar could be Singed upholding his half of a deal with the Noxus to give them a weapon using the body of Isha, but she of course would be different than the Isha we knew due to the blood alchemy.
I see the logic. But Briar was created before Swain took power over Noxis, which if Ambessa IS the leader of secrets, means he already has. Even if she isn't, and the conflict over Noxis' leadership is still happening in the arcane verse, Swain is still a high power figure, meaning Briar was already made. Plus, Briar is an undead made by hemomancy mixing with a corpse... Unless the black rose stole her body underneath Ambessa's nose, she ash XD
Actually the timeline works. Swain should not be yet the Noxian leader as the invasion of Ionia came after Singed made weapons for Noxus, meaning Darkwill is still the authority and Briar was not made as an assassin against Swain by the Black Rose.
@@THEO00900 Actually is kinda don't? Arcane take place around 990-991 AN(After Noxus) and Trifarix has created after the invation of ionia that take place in 974-989 AN. So Boram darkwill already been overthrown.
@@regiregi2484 but there is no Ionian invasion without singed creating the chemical weapons that angered the spirits, , Swain doesn't lose his hand and thus he never overthrows Darkwill using Raum
I don't think the creators of arcane are going to care about. The timeline in the original lore. They literally got permission to kill any character they wanted. So their just going to do what they want to make the story as good as possible.
Well, the arcane rework of victor in league has a voiceline that says "Ah, i've seen you've grown on your own, blitzcrank." So at one point after arcane viktor does infact create blitzcrank
I do kinda like this theory, and as much as I want it to be true, I dont think it'll happen. Although, there are definitely a few pieces of evidence and such to back it up, though nothing I could find nor have seen from others seems to be hard evidence for it. Despite that, ill probably keep searching and stuff to see if I can find anything else. edit; Alr, so I was literally searching for like 10 minutes and found a couple things. I specifically searched 'jinx and briar lol interactions'. From what I found so far, they have none BUT I found one thing that was kind of interesting where someone was comparing the two. "Jinx and briar are opposites. Jinx was born from order, and hated it, wanting anarchy and chaos. Briar was born from chaos." Looking back on how Isha died; she was almost kind of killed due to Ambessa, and Noxus in general. According to some other things I found, she was made by the black rose and is a sort of vampire with an insatiable hunger and want for blood. In the show, we see her associated with blood a couple times, wich imo seem kind of weirdly focused on. She gets slapped by vi, to wich a bad nose bleed occurs, yada yada, yeah. While escaping from what seem to be the crime bosses for whatever reason which ensued to her meeting jinx, she bit one of they're hands, just like any good little savage. This could draw lines to Briar's savagery and want for blood, though in both times I guess she didn't really want or need blood, sooo idk. As for her death, it was chaos. It was ultimately ensued by ambessa, or atleast partially and was greatly chaotic. Briar was born from chaos and was made by the black rose or something, I think/hope whoever has the will to read this starts connecting dots, because im getting bored of this RUclips comment section essay and wanna move on with my night, but I might eventually find something else and come back to this. And Lordy I might as well be doing yoga rn bc DAMN was all that probably a stretch. Guh, anyways, thanks for coming to my Ted talk, bye-bye.
This is an interesting theory. I would believe it a lot more if there was a way to connect isha's death to the hex crystals. Perhaps if there was scarring on briar's face or such. Also I love the video style, very entertaining. Edit: Briar has a voice line with Vladimir saying "Soo... You uh, you want me to call you 'Vlad' or 'Dad'?," and also has no voice lines with jinx so
Thanks you !! I think the voice line with Vladimir is a bit more like a joke. But, probably that he participated in Briar's creation.. Also, I'll respond to every question and counter-arguments ;))
Also, arcane loves its narrative parallels, Warwick was once a human blown up by a bomb and becomes a classic monster (werewolf) inspired experiment that is driven by a lust for blood, Isha is drawn to him and they are both blown up together, and her also becoming an experiment inspired by a classic monster (vampire) separated from jinx and locked away in isolation in prison parellels both Vander/Warwick and Vi.
As much as I would love Isha to be alive and make a comeback, I unfortunately don't think that it will happen. I do love this theory and would love to see it, but unless Briar was developed along side the show (like Ambessa) I really don't think it'll happen for the same reasons why the people who theorize Sevika is Renata Glasc won't happen. The champions that were dev'd during the time of the show's creations (save for Ambessa) aren't really on the radar for the creators of these shows as the teams are entirely separate. So while I do love the editing on the video - and the theory, even if it seems a little weak - I do truly hope and pray Isha is alive some how, especially because they never *show* us what happened to her, and they've shown us 'dead' people before who come back. I would LOVE if Isha was Briar and they did some cool magicky bullshit to make her be alive, and then for Jinx to find out? and for them to have voice interactions in game - like how Vi and Warwick and her do - would truly be amazing. Though I do personally think they might have had to steer clear of actually showing a child die to avoid it changing the rating of the show, and therefore the game. All in all, I don't usually comment on YT, but I felt like sharing my 2 cents on this, and complimenting the video, because I've genuinely never seen any theory videos edited remotely like this and it was a fun watch.
Currently it's a very long shot but I can see it happening. Riot love to reuse characters to include more champions. Some examples: both Yone and Senna died in Yasuo/Lucian stories (trapped in lantern is kind of dying) but got made into real champions. In arcane Warwick could be anyone but they reused Vander's character, same with Oriana's father being Singed. Don't get me wrong, I love those decisions, what I'm saying is that if it fits, riot would love make the character into champion and Isha fits here - visually she is similar to Briar and noxus was present when she died (maybe even black rose because Lb was following Ambessa). The only question remaining is could this be made into interesting story and will it fit well with the rest of potential arcane sequel.
Hope you will get the thing and the editing will be not as hard to do in the next ones ! It’s really great and you look passionate in your videos I think that’s what matters, plus I think we can keep that theory and not throw it in the trash so I will think about it in the future when we’ll have more details on the next arcane season !
I like this theory, I think that it could be cool, but it needs more consistent proofs and i think that for getting them, if this is going to be real, we’ll have to wait for the Noxus Arcane sequel teasers or the full series, unless you find something really convincing on your next video/videos
Haha, it could be even more terrifying than that. The last time we see Isha, she's masked by the hexteck flash. But we could well imagine her being teleported in extremis by the Black Rose. Whether it's that or something else, Isha could become Briar in many scenarios... I'm just pointing out what might seem like nods !! :))
I mean he set the precedent with Vander, he kept his corpse/him alive for what must be almost 10 years, thats why I give this theory weight, his whole goal is reanimating people from the dead, I wouldnt be surprised if he uses her body and mixes it with some of Vander/warwicks blood to give her the bloodlust/bring her back to life since he's a sicko and a scavenger and not above messing with peoples corpses. I see singed working for whoever is able to help him advance his own goals even if it means jumping onto the black roses ship.
Not much because it doesn't make much sense. I would believe this more if it was enough official information about the characters like Isha's appearances in the show and Brier's lore. That's why Vender being Warwick was so believable and It Was eventually proved true. This theory would need more connection than the characters' necklace and hair. Also, their hair doesn't look the same at all, Isha doesn't have very wavy hair, her hair is more messy than wavy. Trying to compare their hair was a bit of a weak decision.
I've had this theory since the 2nd episode, the 6th wasn't out yet !! No copium, also, I don't really care about Isha, I'm most sad for Jinx... :(( And I'm sure about myself since the 2nd episode. But, I also hope to be surprised ! I really like Isha's death like it is !! ;))
Personally, I doubt there will be any connection to Isha and existing league characters. Unless they majorly retcon (doubtful it will happen since she is new) Briar lore it's impossible for her to be Isha for a few major reasons. Briar was created before Swain's coup and was locked up for multiple years after it. She is also not mute like Isha is and has her own ego that is entirely different to Isha's. She was also created entirely from blood using hemomancy, so even if the timelines aligned appropriately it wouldn't be possible for her to be Isha.
I didn't explain well, I think that's Briar will be created with Isha's blood, and so, it wouldn't be the same person ! And why does everyone think that Swain already makes his coup d'état ??
I still think (and hope) she'll be reincarnated as Teemo. We know Yordles are some kind of spirit beings. Maybe Jinx will come across Bandle City and meet a happy and strangely familiar Yordle.
I have a hard time understanding this theory, starting with the fact that Isha will become a boy..! Also that Teemo already exists in Arcane, but as a little character for children...! And I can't find any video that seriously talks about it. Any recommandation ?? :)) (But I appreciate the competition, because one day, we'll have the answer !!)
This theory won't work because Swain has already established the Noxian trifarix as Ambessa references this in Arcane and Briar was created during Borham Darwills rule. Therefore, Briar already exists by the time we see the events of Arcane play out.
In which episode does Ambessa refer to Swain ?? And what exactly does she do? In Arcane, for the sake of the script and direction. It's not uncommon for Riot to modify certain parts of the lore. Perhaps Ambessa is indeed aware of Swain's coup. This could be why Darkwill ("at the end of his reign") asks for Briar's conception. And then it would be just in time! Also, witnessing Swain's coup would make a great scenario for the next League of Legend series !! :)) But it depends on what did say Ambessa !
@@CoolOggmy bad it seems she was just refering to vision, might and guile as principals and not the Trifarix. Further, considering Isha died near a Noxian camp they might have recovered her body to do some hemomancy and Ambessa's people were using steel that looked kinda like Rivens balde so wouldn't put it past them. However the age of Briar compared to Isha still might be an issue. But yeah this theory seems way more plausible to me now.
the problem is Darkwill Arcane is in a time where he is no longer the leader of Noxus. so, Briar exist because she was alive as Darkwill was alive and was used to kill swain. what she not did. later darkwill died or something and Swain, Darius and Leblanc are the leaders for Noxus like it is now in arcane. so, thats the problem for this theory. sure, rito can rework storys, but not for such a new champ.
I didn't understand how we can be sure about it, can you tell me more about it ?? :)) Cause, me, for the sake of this theory, I think that Darkwill is at the end of his reign ! But maybe I miss something..!
@@CoolOgg becuse ambessa was talking about how where are 3 leaders and not 1. darkwill was the only leader before he died and swain, darius and leblanc got the status Trifarix. also in the end we saw that swain had his demonic power. this he dont had in the time briar was created. he was a normal and more weak human. tne only problem is that darkwill used singed to destroy ionia and we saw just now that he have his first contact with noxus over ambessa. so this story will get a new version but at the moment isha and briar cant be the same person
Oh.. I see... Because my theory relies a little on Isha being teleported by the black rose. Like, I imagine she'll be created in a hurry to counter Swain ! But if you tell me it's all too late, it doesn't work. In which season does Ambessa become the leader of Noxus ??
@CoolOgg ambessa wants to become a 4 Leader but WE all know what Append in the s2 with her. She Just talkes about the 3 Leaders AS she was Training cait and also Said how she want to BE the 4. And Like i Said singed Story IS with darkwill connected. So the Story will get an Update IS this is true. So the briar isha Thing can BE still get happend but Not at the Moment of the Story right now
I’m glad you have hope and god bless you but your theory is weak, sorry. Also briar talks, is older, was created from a singular drop of blood that turned in to a “person”( from Vladimir if I’m not mistaken because in lore the black rose and Vladimir have some sort of relation), etc…. But keep digging if that’s wat you think
This theory isn't as weak as I say in this video..! Because there are lots of elements that I do not explain. Hope you'll watch my next video about it !! ;))
That... is a pretty bad theory.:/ If you really want to connect the two, you should do as many have done in relation to Vender and Warwick, read the character's lore. The reason Vender was theorized to be Warwick was the similarities between the two, in addition to clues in the show itself indicating a connection between them. Where there is no lore of Briar. Also, Isha is nonverbal, and I haven't seen much of Briar but if I'm not mistaken she talks, doesn't she? Using Isha's haircut and choker as evidence doesn't prove anything because by that logic you could say that she is also Temmo because they both have similar hats. Again, if the character's lore doesn't mention any similarity to Isha, then they are not the same. Also, if they were, I think in-game dialogue would also be a good indication, just like Warwick's lines towards Vi and Jinx. Nice try in theory, unfortunately we would need a lot more than that to actually prove any connection. And look, I love Isha and I miss her, but trying to imply that she might come back as a new champion is stretching it a bit to much...
There was no official information about Singed's daughter (probably Orianna) until Arcane. So much so, that no theories had been made on the subject. I did read Briar's story, I'd already seen her great trailer, but I really discovered her in-game when I relaunched League of Legend to wait for Arcane season 2. After reading her wiki, I remembered this: - She is created by the Black Rose from blood and magic - She interacts with Swain An organization and a character that first appeared in season 2. The same season in which we discover Isha. A little girl who performs a suicidal act of heroism in the midst of a chaotic Noxus army. Bear in mind that the ruling emperor of Noxus, Boram Darkwill, demands the creation of Briar at the end of his reign. In fact, his reign will come to an end following a coup d'etat by Swain (a character teased by the appearance of these crows, not only in the last episode). Briar will even be sent to assassinate Swain, but alas... She fails in her mission. In fact, it's such a disaster that she's locked up ! (What a jinx) ;;))) I'm not saying Isha will become Briar, but I think Briar is made from Isha's blood. And I can't explain why Isha and not someone else. But all that to say that this theory is much more accomplished than my two poor videos that try to reveal the few possible clues about Briar. Now, are you a little more convinced ??
@CoolOgg Sorry, but no. I'm not convinced. Also, you can only look at the official website and read the characters' lore there, you don't need the Wiki which is made exclusively by fans. There is simply very little evidence linking the two. Also, Oriana is a robot ballerina associated with a melody, the same melody that plays when Sindeg appears in the second season. It was easy to point out that he was Oriana's father. Also, sorry for sounding rude, I just don't think this theory holds much water.
Check for yourself, Singed's official biography doesn't mention any melodies, so it's definitely Arcane (do it fast, they might change his lore to Arcane's like they did with Viktor). And the fan wiki doesn't invent anything, it's based on everything we know about the official stuff. They're fans, not writers. But you seem passionate, so maybe you should check every piece of information I give you that seems dubious.
@@CoolOgggood gravy my guy but this is just not a great theory. i would stake my life on the fact that this isn’t true lmao but the main thing is, we’re never going to see/hear about isha ever again, arcane is over, and while there are other league shows in the works, and a possibility we’ll see jinx again, isha is dead and there’s no reason for singed, or the black rose to care about isha or turning her into briar at all. and as other people have said, she’s mute and briar won’t shut up, they’re fundamentally different characters. this is 100% a copium high lmao
no... and I'll tell you why. In lore Briar is supposed to be Vlad's mom who was imprisioned for extreme violent tendancies. other then that it would mean riot intentionally made a character with sex appeal that is in fact a CHILD!
I'm waiting for good arguments, is there a video about it ? (Ur comment makes me smile, so hope you'll comment about Teemo again on my next video :'DD)
Yeah, it depends how you interpret this theory... I'm sorry that I do not explain better (Or just not enough)... It's because I wasn't expecting that editing will be so long... But next time I'll explain everything and answer every question/counter-arguments !! :DD
Haha, I think about this theory fringe the first Arcane's Saison 2, It's no coincidence that there's the Black Rose and Wayn in the second season of Arcane! Isha could have turned to dust, or she could have been teleported just before by Wayn or the Black Rose !!
riot already changed lore of character to fit the lore of arcane lots of time so why not for future show and with briar lore. i would love that they use isha body to create briar but that would probably look too similar to using vander body to create warwick so they probably won't go that way
@@CoolOggAnd somehow they didn't stop to kill Ambessa??? Literally when would they have time to get Isha when Ambessa was there for who knows how many days??? Sorry if I sound rude, but it just doesn't make much sense.
@@m00nriseChampions with lots of retcons are old at this point, Brier is a very new champion. Changing her lore while it's still fresh would be idiotic. It makes more sense to change the lore of old champions since their writing wasn't always the best and nowadays they would have a better idea of what they want to tell with them.
I'm srry but showing a text in like only 3 frames out of 30 that exist in a second hurts my eyes and brain lol still... same hair... not convinced. Necklace... i mean... you had me... until you said the 5th was the crystal... it only has 3 crystals not 5 and not even in the same spot as those spikes as the necklace are... also... why would isha be locked in a prison? and why all of the sudden hunger for blood? just curious about those explanations. from the first video isha bite a man... but not from wanting to only necessity and briar as soon as she smells blood goes CRAZY!!! Wouldn't Isha wanna bite or do something else when she got hit by Vi and started bleeding? or better example when singed was bleeding she was scared of the blood dripping... not going crazy and excited about blood... like... the only explanation i could understand is if somehow singed grabbed her body and revived her... but still Hair and Necklace not convinced at all it's even worse theory than the last video i'm srry (i'm sorry it sounds mean i don't mean the actual video only the evidences for the theory) The only theory that kind of still makes sense about isha is that she is teemo... (tho i don't know how isha decides to talk later on...)
asnwer to your questions, maybe isha went rampant and got caught by noxians, maybe the crystal blast made an anomoly that transfered warwicks bloodlust into her
I totally understand, in my video I do not explain so much and I hope that people will understand where I'm going... Nobody thinks the same way, that's normal for lots of people there is no sense.. :')) (By example : about the necklace, I'm not saying it's the same object, mind you !! But, it could be a nod to the Briar's Carcan !) Also, in my opinion, there is a link between Isha and Briar, and Isha won't be her self after her transformation !
To explain, if Briar is Isha, Briar is a byproduct of Black Rose experimenting on corpses with Hemomancy(Blood Magic(Vampire shiz)). She's considered a failure because she can't be controlled and fiends for blood like shimmer and meth had a secret love child and called it a drug. However, because of probably the MOST POWERFUL BEING IN THE LOL VERSE, she is still kept alive to try and have just one more weapon that MIGHT hurt him. I just don't think it's accurate, because Briar was made before Swain came to power, and he most definitely is, if not, close to
@@CoolOgg regi regi just explained nicely what likely would be why she is briar... tho... i still cannot say hey... these 2 characters have same hair... or similar necklace and carcan but now i understand how the theory can be possible!
*"Don't do that. Don't give me hope."* -Hawkeye
Theory, kind of weak and not at all something I buy. Editing style, absolutely adorable and the reason I gave the video a like.
Yeah, I have lots of things to say I swear !! But I'm a beginner at editing... So it takes too much time :'))
But next time, I'll take my time !!
@@CoolOgg you will be faster and better if you do it more, its really wholesome
Don't know if this has any revelation to your theory but Briar has a special interaction with Scuttlecrab and Isha had a bug named Scuttlebutt
I hadn't noticed, do you think it might echo the bug fight with Jinx?
I think interactions with Jinx would be better evidence than an insect enemy that existed long before the show. Also, Isha doesn't talk.
@@CoolOgg possibly but it's just a theory
@@laraprisma6381 I did say I wasn't certain also Briar was given power by the Black Rose not sure if that magic has any impact on mutes but if it does it could tie to this theory
Briar can talk. And is pure magic.
Hehe !! I've got an answer to this ! I'll post another video that will explain everything well (for real this time) Hope you'll watch it ! ;))
@@CoolOgg u got me hyped af!!
Viktor wore mechanical armor in game, now he gloriously evolved into an arcane being of magic… anything can happen.
@@Stop_This_Madness yeah and the gamers hated it. Mind you this is a show from a game company. Not the other way around.
Briar has a voiceline that *might* explain this:
"When people talk about their first language, why isnt body language an option?"
(Or something along these lines, i did not look up the precise voiceline, but I know she says something like this)
you probably already looked into this but:
on the splashart of the skin "street demons briar" she got 3 X's on her weapon, one X on each shoe and two more X's on the graffiti in the background.
Also the graffiti is pink and blue and she has some pink and blue in her outfit aswell.
All of this and the fact that she even uses graffiti could relate back to the Isha times with Jinx.
Also her voice in the cinematic sounds pretty similar to Jinx's
-He's onto something-
*He's ON something*
Not even on, cause my theory is very deep ;))
If it so that would be great, it's so cute to see how Isha continues to imitate Jinx after being resurrected
A quick reminder: League of Legends lore is being actively rewritten, especially now after the release of Arcane. Let's not forget that in the original it was not Singed who was Oriana's father.
A little lore information:
Noxus actively uses blood magic to resurrect fighters and create bloodthirsty killing machines from them.
Okay, only point Im giving you, is the fact that at the end of the 2nd act noxus was made aware of alchemical monsters that singed created, so it could be possible that the Arcane version of Briar could be Singed upholding his half of a deal with the Noxus to give them a weapon using the body of Isha, but she of course would be different than the Isha we knew due to the blood alchemy.
Exactly ! (To be honest I do not really know a lot about what Singed did with Noxus..)
I see the logic. But Briar was created before Swain took power over Noxis, which if Ambessa IS the leader of secrets, means he already has. Even if she isn't, and the conflict over Noxis' leadership is still happening in the arcane verse, Swain is still a high power figure, meaning Briar was already made. Plus, Briar is an undead made by hemomancy mixing with a corpse... Unless the black rose stole her body underneath Ambessa's nose, she ash XD
Actually the timeline works. Swain should not be yet the Noxian leader as the invasion of Ionia came after Singed made weapons for Noxus, meaning Darkwill is still the authority and Briar was not made as an assassin against Swain by the Black Rose.
@@THEO00900 Actually is kinda don't? Arcane take place around 990-991 AN(After Noxus) and Trifarix has created after the invation of ionia that take place in 974-989 AN. So Boram darkwill already been overthrown.
@@regiregi2484 but there is no Ionian invasion without singed creating the chemical weapons that angered the spirits, , Swain doesn't lose his hand and thus he never overthrows Darkwill using Raum
I don't think the creators of arcane are going to care about. The timeline in the original lore. They literally got permission to kill any character they wanted.
So their just going to do what they want to make the story as good as possible.
This is what I believe what happened to Isha...I not in denial.
Like one guy once said "Something, Something, canon envent".
Well, the arcane rework of victor in league has a voiceline that says "Ah, i've seen you've grown on your own, blitzcrank." So at one point after arcane viktor does infact create blitzcrank
True ! The rework wasn't in the end when I made this video... But I'm happy that they still link :))
I do kinda like this theory, and as much as I want it to be true, I dont think it'll happen. Although, there are definitely a few pieces of evidence and such to back it up, though nothing I could find nor have seen from others seems to be hard evidence for it. Despite that, ill probably keep searching and stuff to see if I can find anything else.
edit; Alr, so I was literally searching for like 10 minutes and found a couple things. I specifically searched 'jinx and briar lol interactions'. From what I found so far, they have none BUT I found one thing that was kind of interesting where someone was comparing the two. "Jinx and briar are opposites. Jinx was born from order, and hated it, wanting anarchy and chaos. Briar was born from chaos." Looking back on how Isha died; she was almost kind of killed due to Ambessa, and Noxus in general. According to some other things I found, she was made by the black rose and is a sort of vampire with an insatiable hunger and want for blood. In the show, we see her associated with blood a couple times, wich imo seem kind of weirdly focused on. She gets slapped by vi, to wich a bad nose bleed occurs, yada yada, yeah. While escaping from what seem to be the crime bosses for whatever reason which ensued to her meeting jinx, she bit one of they're hands, just like any good little savage. This could draw lines to Briar's savagery and want for blood, though in both times I guess she didn't really want or need blood, sooo idk. As for her death, it was chaos. It was ultimately ensued by ambessa, or atleast partially and was greatly chaotic. Briar was born from chaos and was made by the black rose or something, I think/hope whoever has the will to read this starts connecting dots, because im getting bored of this RUclips comment section essay and wanna move on with my night, but I might eventually find something else and come back to this. And Lordy I might as well be doing yoga rn bc DAMN was all that probably a stretch. Guh, anyways, thanks for coming to my Ted talk, bye-bye.
And thanks you very much
This is an interesting theory. I would believe it a lot more if there was a way to connect isha's death to the hex crystals. Perhaps if there was scarring on briar's face or such. Also I love the video style, very entertaining.
Edit:
Briar has a voice line with Vladimir saying "Soo... You uh, you want me to call you 'Vlad' or 'Dad'?," and also has no voice lines with jinx so
Thanks you !! I think the voice line with Vladimir is a bit more like a joke. But, probably that he participated in Briar's creation.. Also, I'll respond to every question and counter-arguments ;))
I think it's totally possible. I mean, I always thought Isha was likely the Avatar of Janna or something like that.
Also, arcane loves its narrative parallels, Warwick was once a human blown up by a bomb and becomes a classic monster (werewolf) inspired experiment that is driven by a lust for blood, Isha is drawn to him and they are both blown up together, and her also becoming an experiment inspired by a classic monster (vampire) separated from jinx and locked away in isolation in prison parellels both Vander/Warwick and Vi.
As much as I would love Isha to be alive and make a comeback, I unfortunately don't think that it will happen. I do love this theory and would love to see it, but unless Briar was developed along side the show (like Ambessa) I really don't think it'll happen for the same reasons why the people who theorize Sevika is Renata Glasc won't happen. The champions that were dev'd during the time of the show's creations (save for Ambessa) aren't really on the radar for the creators of these shows as the teams are entirely separate.
So while I do love the editing on the video - and the theory, even if it seems a little weak - I do truly hope and pray Isha is alive some how, especially because they never *show* us what happened to her, and they've shown us 'dead' people before who come back. I would LOVE if Isha was Briar and they did some cool magicky bullshit to make her be alive, and then for Jinx to find out? and for them to have voice interactions in game - like how Vi and Warwick and her do - would truly be amazing.
Though I do personally think they might have had to steer clear of actually showing a child die to avoid it changing the rating of the show, and therefore the game.
All in all, I don't usually comment on YT, but I felt like sharing my 2 cents on this, and complimenting the video, because I've genuinely never seen any theory videos edited remotely like this and it was a fun watch.
subscribed... the is the most fun I've had watching a youtube video for while now
Oh reallyyyy..?? Thanks uuu
JUSTICE FOR ISHA
She chose her own Justice.. :DD
@CoolOgg Sky and Isha are the ones that lost the most in all of Arcane
Me it's Mylo TToTT
"Isha becomes pure ashes"
People: Isha's comeback 🗣🗣
Yes, well, in a manner of speaking.. :'))
And I thought flat earth theories were over the top
:'DD
amazing edit keep up
Thank's youuuuu
Currently it's a very long shot but I can see it happening. Riot love to reuse characters to include more champions. Some examples: both Yone and Senna died in Yasuo/Lucian stories (trapped in lantern is kind of dying) but got made into real champions. In arcane Warwick could be anyone but they reused Vander's character, same with Oriana's father being Singed. Don't get me wrong, I love those decisions, what I'm saying is that if it fits, riot would love make the character into champion and Isha fits here - visually she is similar to Briar and noxus was present when she died (maybe even black rose because Lb was following Ambessa). The only question remaining is could this be made into interesting story and will it fit well with the rest of potential arcane sequel.
I honestly think this theory is actually really good
I'm hoping for a Isha comeback
WAIT !! I didn't explain everything yet ;))
@CoolOgg waiting for your video then 🙂
That's the copium i need right now thank you
What I do not explain in the video is that her body or blood or both will be used to create Briar. So it won't be exactly the same character.. :''')))
I mean, we theorize Vander as Warwick so it’s possible
Unlike my theory, Warwick's theory was really obvious, and it would have been surprising if it hadn't been !! ;))
Here it's very uncertain..!
Y’all I get the Jinx is alive theory, but this is peak coping behaviour😭
Dam you are delulu…….
This would be some irony
What do you mean ?? :0
i LOVE THIS SM IM COPING SO BAD RN 😭😭
I honestly hope this isn’t true, it hurts to think that Isha would turn into a crazed killer.
Maybe that Jinx will reconize her, but Isha wont ! Cause Jinx probably leave piltover (maybe to join the next Riot series in Noxus) :DD
Wasent she trying to be like jinx? Who may I remind you, Is a crazed Killer?
@DomLVJY Oh, touche.
We’re laughing here now but wake me up when it becomes real
I'm sure of their links, but I'm also sure that we're gonna be surprised !
love this theory and stand behind it 100%
also amazing editing :D
hope there's more videos to come on this channel ♥
Haha !! Maybe our brains work a bit the same way then !!
Hope you will get the thing and the editing will be not as hard to do in the next ones ! It’s really great and you look passionate in your videos I think that’s what matters, plus I think we can keep that theory and not throw it in the trash so I will think about it in the future when we’ll have more details on the next arcane season !
Thanks you so muuuch !!
forgot about her biting that guy's hand in the second episode until he starts bleeding.
I like this theory, I think that it could be cool, but it needs more consistent proofs and i think that for getting them, if this is going to be real, we’ll have to wait for the Noxus Arcane sequel teasers or the full series, unless you find something really convincing on your next video/videos
I think I'll make a video just by replying to counter-arguments to explain every misunderstanding ;))
Great video 👍
Really :')) Thank's uuu I spent so much on i..!!
@ Your edits show your effort. That’s makes your video Great. Keep making videos 😊
I hope that’s not true because that’s pretty scary. If Singed took what was left of her to Noxus
Haha, it could be even more terrifying than that. The last time we see Isha, she's masked by the hexteck flash. But we could well imagine her being teleported in extremis by the Black Rose.
Whether it's that or something else, Isha could become Briar in many scenarios... I'm just pointing out what might seem like nods !! :))
I mean he set the precedent with Vander, he kept his corpse/him alive for what must be almost 10 years, thats why I give this theory weight, his whole goal is reanimating people from the dead, I wouldnt be surprised if he uses her body and mixes it with some of Vander/warwicks blood to give her the bloodlust/bring her back to life since he's a sicko and a scavenger and not above messing with peoples corpses. I see singed working for whoever is able to help him advance his own goals even if it means jumping onto the black roses ship.
Vlads voiced by silco in the LoL card game, and vlad is briars dad. Its all coming together
Strongly doubt it BUT I NEED MY BABY BRIAR TO SHOW UP SO GOD DANM MUCH AAA
Finally I don't even care of this theory, I JUST WANT TO SEE BRIAR TOO !! HAHAAA
@@CoolOgg She’s literally the best character, i need her so much
No f*cking way...🤯
Don’t, PLEASE don’t.
I'M SORRY, it's too late, I have too much proof !!
(In this video, like, 20% of all my arguments :'))
good, still need more substance but really interesting 👍
Thank's you !!! This is very encouraging !
Next time I will take more time to do something clean :))
@CoolOgg np you can take your time 😁
Not much because it doesn't make much sense. I would believe this more if it was enough official information about the characters like Isha's appearances in the show and Brier's lore. That's why Vender being Warwick was so believable and It Was eventually proved true. This theory would need more connection than the characters' necklace and hair. Also, their hair doesn't look the same at all, Isha doesn't have very wavy hair, her hair is more messy than wavy. Trying to compare their hair was a bit of a weak decision.
@@laraprisma6381 yea, but their face do looks a like, and in his previous video there's the clip when she bite the guy it also looks like briar
@@david_ace hummm.... i still don't see it.
I'm a Gojo coper so I have a high level of copium in my blood but that's too much cope even for me !
I've had this theory since the 2nd episode, the 6th wasn't out yet !! No copium, also, I don't really care about Isha, I'm most sad for Jinx... :((
And I'm sure about myself since the 2nd episode. But, I also hope to be surprised ! I really like Isha's death like it is !! ;))
Ok we are all hurt but this level of cope is not healthy bro. We have to move on T-T.
I wooon't !! ( TToTT)
Idk if she would transform like that im pretty sure that blue color on hair her will remain
In the case she'll be transformed, she'll probably get a very different design !
Personally, I doubt there will be any connection to Isha and existing league characters. Unless they majorly retcon (doubtful it will happen since she is new) Briar lore it's impossible for her to be Isha for a few major reasons. Briar was created before Swain's coup and was locked up for multiple years after it. She is also not mute like Isha is and has her own ego that is entirely different to Isha's. She was also created entirely from blood using hemomancy, so even if the timelines aligned appropriately it wouldn't be possible for her to be Isha.
I didn't explain well, I think that's Briar will be created with Isha's blood, and so, it wouldn't be the same person !
And why does everyone think that Swain already makes his coup d'état ??
@@CoolOgg wasn't Briar made with the help of Vladimir (being his blood)? It's in her Voicelines I think
I still think (and hope) she'll be reincarnated as Teemo. We know Yordles are some kind of spirit beings. Maybe Jinx will come across Bandle City and meet a happy and strangely familiar Yordle.
I have a hard time understanding this theory, starting with the fact that Isha will become a boy..!
Also that Teemo already exists in Arcane, but as a little character for children...! And I can't find any video that seriously talks about it. Any recommandation ?? :))
(But I appreciate the competition, because one day, we'll have the answer !!)
This theory won't work because Swain has already established the Noxian trifarix as Ambessa references this in Arcane and Briar was created during Borham Darwills rule. Therefore, Briar already exists by the time we see the events of Arcane play out.
In which episode does Ambessa refer to Swain ?? And what exactly does she do?
In Arcane, for the sake of the script and direction. It's not uncommon for Riot to modify certain parts of the lore.
Perhaps Ambessa is indeed aware of Swain's coup.
This could be why Darkwill ("at the end of his reign") asks for Briar's conception.
And then it would be just in time!
Also, witnessing Swain's coup would make a great scenario for the next League of Legend series !! :))
But it depends on what did say Ambessa !
@@CoolOggmy bad it seems she was just refering to vision, might and guile as principals and not the Trifarix. Further, considering Isha died near a Noxian camp they might have recovered her body to do some hemomancy and Ambessa's people were using steel that looked kinda like Rivens balde so wouldn't put it past them. However the age of Briar compared to Isha still might be an issue. But yeah this theory seems way more plausible to me now.
Briar is 1000 years old, but if she's so old, it means she was younger before ! :))
(Thank's for your answer)
You overcooking the food, its burned to a crisp (like isha)
Too late, I've tasted the pleasure of cooking, but I'm glad you tasted this theory :DD
the problem is Darkwill
Arcane is in a time where he is no longer the leader of Noxus.
so, Briar exist because she was alive as Darkwill was alive and was used to kill swain. what she not did.
later darkwill died or something and Swain, Darius and Leblanc are the leaders for Noxus like it is now in arcane.
so, thats the problem for this theory.
sure, rito can rework storys, but not for such a new champ.
I didn't understand how we can be sure about it, can you tell me more about it ?? :))
Cause, me, for the sake of this theory, I think that Darkwill is at the end of his reign !
But maybe I miss something..!
@@CoolOgg becuse ambessa was talking about how where are 3 leaders and not 1. darkwill was the only leader before he died and swain, darius and leblanc got the status Trifarix. also in the end we saw that swain had his demonic power. this he dont had in the time briar was created. he was a normal and more weak human. tne only problem is that darkwill used singed to destroy ionia and we saw just now that he have his first contact with noxus over ambessa. so this story will get a new version but at the moment isha and briar cant be the same person
Oh.. I see... Because my theory relies a little on Isha being teleported by the black rose.
Like, I imagine she'll be created in a hurry to counter Swain !
But if you tell me it's all too late, it doesn't work. In which season does Ambessa become the leader of Noxus ??
@CoolOgg ambessa wants to become a 4 Leader but WE all know what Append in the s2 with her. She Just talkes about the 3 Leaders AS she was Training cait and also Said how she want to BE the 4.
And Like i Said singed Story IS with darkwill connected. So the Story will get an Update IS this is true. So the briar isha Thing can BE still get happend but Not at the Moment of the Story right now
as much as i like this theory isha is mute and briar can talk :/
I can explain this ! Briar is made of Isha's blood, but this is not really the same character :))
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I’m glad you have hope and god bless you but your theory is weak, sorry. Also briar talks, is older, was created from a singular drop of blood that turned in to a “person”( from Vladimir if I’m not mistaken because in lore the black rose and Vladimir have some sort of relation), etc…. But keep digging if that’s wat you think
This theory isn't as weak as I say in this video..! Because there are lots of elements that I do not explain. Hope you'll watch my next video about it !! ;))
That... is a pretty bad theory.:/
If you really want to connect the two, you should do as many have done in relation to Vender and Warwick, read the character's lore.
The reason Vender was theorized to be Warwick was the similarities between the two, in addition to clues in the show itself indicating a connection between them.
Where there is no lore of Briar. Also, Isha is nonverbal, and I haven't seen much of Briar but if I'm not mistaken she talks, doesn't she?
Using Isha's haircut and choker as evidence doesn't prove anything because by that logic you could say that she is also Temmo because they both have similar hats.
Again, if the character's lore doesn't mention any similarity to Isha, then they are not the same. Also, if they were, I think in-game dialogue would also be a good indication, just like Warwick's lines towards Vi and Jinx.
Nice try in theory, unfortunately we would need a lot more than that to actually prove any connection. And look, I love Isha and I miss her, but trying to imply that she might come back as a new champion is stretching it a bit to much...
There was no official information about Singed's daughter (probably Orianna) until Arcane. So much so, that no theories had been made on the subject.
I did read Briar's story, I'd already seen her great trailer, but I really discovered her in-game when I relaunched League of Legend to wait for Arcane season 2.
After reading her wiki, I remembered this:
- She is created by the Black Rose from blood and magic
- She interacts with Swain
An organization and a character that first appeared in season 2. The same season in which we discover Isha. A little girl who performs a suicidal act of heroism in the midst of a chaotic Noxus army.
Bear in mind that the ruling emperor of Noxus, Boram Darkwill, demands the creation of Briar at the end of his reign. In fact, his reign will come to an end following a coup d'etat by Swain (a character teased by the appearance of these crows, not only in the last episode). Briar will even be sent to assassinate Swain, but alas... She fails in her mission. In fact, it's such a disaster that she's locked up ! (What a jinx) ;;)))
I'm not saying Isha will become Briar, but I think Briar is made from Isha's blood. And I can't explain why Isha and not someone else. But all that to say that this theory is much more accomplished than my two poor videos that try to reveal the few possible clues about Briar.
Now, are you a little more convinced ??
@CoolOgg Sorry, but no. I'm not convinced. Also, you can only look at the official website and read the characters' lore there, you don't need the Wiki which is made exclusively by fans.
There is simply very little evidence linking the two. Also, Oriana is a robot ballerina associated with a melody, the same melody that plays when Sindeg appears in the second season. It was easy to point out that he was Oriana's father.
Also, sorry for sounding rude, I just don't think this theory holds much water.
Check for yourself, Singed's official biography doesn't mention any melodies, so it's definitely Arcane (do it fast, they might change his lore to Arcane's like they did with Viktor).
And the fan wiki doesn't invent anything, it's based on everything we know about the official stuff. They're fans, not writers.
But you seem passionate, so maybe you should check every piece of information I give you that seems dubious.
@CoolOgg This was because originally he and Oriana had no connection whatsoever and it was retconned to make him her father.
@@CoolOgggood gravy my guy but this is just not a great theory. i would stake my life on the fact that this isn’t true lmao but the main thing is, we’re never going to see/hear about isha ever again, arcane is over, and while there are other league shows in the works, and a possibility we’ll see jinx again, isha is dead and there’s no reason for singed, or the black rose to care about isha or turning her into briar at all. and as other people have said, she’s mute and briar won’t shut up, they’re fundamentally different characters. this is 100% a copium high lmao
Stop trying to bring back characters... without permanent death, sacrifice is tarnished. And Isha's one is perfect.
I totally agree with that too !! ((:
Just let Isha go man
Oh she's gone since the 6th episode hehe, and, in a way, improved this theory..! ;))
no... and I'll tell you why. In lore Briar is supposed to be Vlad's mom who was imprisioned for extreme violent tendancies. other then that it would mean riot intentionally made a character with sex appeal that is in fact a CHILD!
First time I've read that ! Sorry, but I can't take into account the counter-arguments which are themselves theories... :c
Sadly this wont be true they confirmed she is dead
(fake news... it would be weird from Riot, or any writters...) :'))
No fake news
@@LegendevonKira Okay, but where did they say it ?? On twitter ? On their website, during one of their interviews ??
@@CoolOgg In the interview with lpgjustjohnny. The Arcane Co-Creator said this!
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@@CoolOgg
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bro look the description of briar
I do, a lot and lot ! Do you try to pause the video at the beginning ? ((:
What about Teemo man?
I'm waiting for good arguments, is there a video about it ?
(Ur comment makes me smile, so hope you'll comment about Teemo again on my next video :'DD)
@@CoolOgg Sure!
I see…
NO
WHY NOT
Shoulda spent more time theorizing and less editing
I think that in a video both of them do count !
mooooooooooore!!!
I'm still a beginner at edition, I've learn a lot last weekend, so I hope I'll do best !! (But I need more like 2 weeks than 1 weekend :''))
@@CoolOgg Np
As i js read Briar i doubt your thoeries tbh
Yeah, it depends how you interpret this theory... I'm sorry that I do not explain better (Or just not enough)... It's because I wasn't expecting that editing will be so long...
But next time I'll explain everything and answer every question/counter-arguments !! :DD
oh hell naw
oh hell yeah B))
Isha is gone. Briar is a magic monster create by the blackrose. She not a human just pure blood magic . you should looking more to the lore of briar
Haha, I think about this theory fringe the first Arcane's Saison 2, It's no coincidence that there's the Black Rose and Wayn in the second season of Arcane! Isha could have turned to dust, or she could have been teleported just before by Wayn or the Black Rose !!
riot already changed lore of character to fit the lore of arcane lots of time so why not for future show and with briar lore. i would love that they use isha body to create briar but that would probably look too similar to using vander body to create warwick so they probably won't go that way
@@CoolOggAnd somehow they didn't stop to kill Ambessa??? Literally when would they have time to get Isha when Ambessa was there for who knows how many days??? Sorry if I sound rude, but it just doesn't make much sense.
@@m00nriseChampions with lots of retcons are old at this point, Brier is a very new champion. Changing her lore while it's still fresh would be idiotic. It makes more sense to change the lore of old champions since their writing wasn't always the best and nowadays they would have a better idea of what they want to tell with them.
@@laraprisma6381 yeah that's also another reason why they will probably not do that
Nooooo please noo I want to remember her cute and little not like this sexual vampire girl
This theory to not mean that Briar is Isha, but more that Briar will be created from Isha's blood !
@@CoolOgg even more bad🥲
isha is aatrox not briar
I like competition !
(unless it's a troll) :I
Illuminaty confirmed, or what??
No, but earth is definitely round
no
why not
it's so fast could you do slower
Yes ! When I edit the video I already read the text many times, so it's hard to evaluate the speed :'))
Hey I don’t know where I heard this but when presenting text, you should be able to read it three times before transitioning to the next text.
I'll try this, thanks !!
Really getting tired of the dumb isha theories
Haha, sometimes me too, I'll made a last video about it, then I'll take a break until Noxus series :'))
you're tripping, but nice try
We will see soon ;))
I'm srry but showing a text in like only 3 frames out of 30 that exist in a second hurts my eyes and brain lol still... same hair... not convinced. Necklace... i mean... you had me... until you said the 5th was the crystal... it only has 3 crystals not 5 and not even in the same spot as those spikes as the necklace are... also...
why would isha be locked in a prison? and why all of the sudden hunger for blood? just curious about those explanations. from the first video isha bite a man... but not from wanting to only necessity and briar as soon as she smells blood goes CRAZY!!! Wouldn't Isha wanna bite or do something else when she got hit by Vi and started bleeding? or better example when singed was bleeding she was scared of the blood dripping... not going crazy and excited about blood... like... the only explanation i could understand is if somehow singed grabbed her body and revived her... but still Hair and Necklace not convinced at all it's even worse theory than the last video i'm srry (i'm sorry it sounds mean i don't mean the actual video only the evidences for the theory) The only theory that kind of still makes sense about isha is that she is teemo... (tho i don't know how isha decides to talk later on...)
asnwer to your questions, maybe isha went rampant and got caught by noxians, maybe the crystal blast made an anomoly that transfered warwicks bloodlust into her
I totally understand, in my video I do not explain so much and I hope that people will understand where I'm going...
Nobody thinks the same way, that's normal for lots of people there is no sense.. :'))
(By example : about the necklace, I'm not saying it's the same object, mind you !! But, it could be a nod to the Briar's Carcan !)
Also, in my opinion, there is a link between Isha and Briar, and Isha won't be her self after her transformation !
To explain, if Briar is Isha, Briar is a byproduct of Black Rose experimenting on corpses with Hemomancy(Blood Magic(Vampire shiz)). She's considered a failure because she can't be controlled and fiends for blood like shimmer and meth had a secret love child and called it a drug. However, because of probably the MOST POWERFUL BEING IN THE LOL VERSE, she is still kept alive to try and have just one more weapon that MIGHT hurt him.
I just don't think it's accurate, because Briar was made before Swain came to power, and he most definitely is, if not, close to
@@regiregi2484 Okey... if the video even mentioned anything about this i would absolutely actually understand okey... VERY INTRESTING THEORY...
@@CoolOgg regi regi just explained nicely what likely would be why she is briar... tho... i still cannot say hey... these 2 characters have same hair... or similar necklace and carcan but now i understand how the theory can be possible!