NFS Carbon Exotics are "MEH" - Overtaking All Bosses
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- Finally managed to record and edit the long promised overtaking video with Exotics. I know I made my life a little harder, trying to beat Tier 3 cars with a Tier 2 Lotus but regardless, exotics are kind of jack of all trades, master of none. The speed is good but how often does it come in handy and at the same time handling is waay worse than tuners. I especially would have liked to have better handling from the Elise, which with its light weight, excellent handling and lower top speed would perhaps be a better candidate for a tuner car (by Carbon's logic).
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Exotics are "MEH": beats darius with a tier 2 exotic. "OH OKAY"
NFS Carbon is a great game, however I am very disappointed with the performance of mostly the Exotics. The Aston Martin DB9 for example is pathetic in terms of acceleration and top speed. The Mercedes CLK 500 is horrible in every way compared to other games of NFS. I think the biggest problem in this game is the Tier Allocation of cars which should have been dismissed. It´s also a reason I think that this game did not include Drag races as Muscles would obviously been unstoppable in this game.
By the way, NFS MW's two Mercedes wasn't good too. That's where "Mercedes FAK 500" meme was born.
(© KuruHS)
I legitimately think that Angie's Old Charger is OP AF, so overpowered that i found easier to defeat Darius with a Supra-level of tier 3 (subpar), and I swear it's insulting how much the Db9 is so behind in comparison, eventually I defeated Darius with the Db9 because i wanted to do that, i personally love that car, but it was such a chore 😭😭😭😭
@@NICOCLASH Absolutely right. Carbon totally favoured the US American cars in the game (except for the Chrysler 300C which sucked the most in the game).
@@automotivelegends9831 and not all of them, Ford G's actually terrible, one of the more subpar exotics and even the best exotic is NOTHING compared to Z06 Corvette, that shit is ridiculous it basically outperforms even Darius's R8 if I remember right. At least tuners are fun to drive and have advantage in some races
@@NICOCLASH tbf with speed breaker some of the exotics aren’t that awful and aren’t far behind the corvette. But still slower by 2/3seconds per minute of race from what I’ve tested, which might be substantial but it feels like more.
Exotics can also maintain a moderate amount of speed through corners, tuners are sort of fun they’re just really, really slow and far behind the other two classes.
The only exotic I ever drove apart from the starter Alfa Romeo was the Lotus Elise only because it is a tuner in disguise
Totally an undercover tuner
Got the advantages of both exotics and tuners. It's most often the last car I buy for casual playthroughs as it's more than enough to beat the whole game.
It's my brother's favourite car in the game because it's cute😂
Only reason i upgraded from the elise was because other cars looked cooler, lol
The Elise even has a TOYOTA engine.
The Elise just breaks the game. Fully upgraded, Tier 3 races are actually easy.
Ikr, and as if it wasn’t too OP in Carbon, it’s got the best handling in MW, and IMO is the best car in NFSMW05 overall. I’ve beaten MW twice, and in my second playthrough, as soon as I beat Jewels, which unlocks the Lotus Elise, I immediately bought it and took it all the way to the top of the blacklist, beating Razor with a fully upgraded Elise.
@@brandonkeith628 Same here, Junkman Elise is just insane. :)
Ah yes, exotics. The only thing that i chose the exotic starter was to see Neville's lambo
My choise in Exotic cars Is BMW M3 GTR. Nobody can say that car is bad
@@NemamJmeno6 Battle royale mod? or the iconic hero bmw m3 gtr
@@NemamJmeno6 that bmw m3 was ABSOLUTELY nerfed, it is challenging to win a race with that car
@@Gzxlim. of course that iconic
@@NemamJmeno6 yeah thats one of the worst, no offense
Yeah, I have to agree. Most of the Exotics, especially tier 3s, are understeering machine
Tune the suspension almost all the way to ‘Understeer’ so you can slide and manoeuvre through corners. I find it’s better than not being able to turn.
And here I was meanwhile, wondering neverendingly whether if my 12YO self in the past just sucked at driving or the Murcielago *really* can't turn for shit
Except for the M3 GTR and the Elise
And Carrera GT
The tier 3 exotics are horrible. I bought the murcielago and was shocked at how difficult it was to drive
Acceleration is always very useful.
Handling is always very useful.
Top speed is rarely useful since you can barely ever reach it... unless you have great acceleration.
Yep, I always tuned my RX-7's acceleration up to eleven and made it very oversteery
In carbon there are plenty long races where top speed is useful well not for you because as i see in your comment you are a wall grinding bumper car driver 🤣🤣
@@maszkalman3676 how someone that likes handling is a "wall grinder"? if anything, you sound like an entitled brat that didnt really play the game if you think top speed is that useful, the hardest races dont favor top speed
To be honest exotic cars are really meant to be more of a balanced, jack of trades master of none type of class so I didn't really mind them not excelling nor faltering in speed, quickness and handling. That said, the biggest flaw is the price point in career mode, specifically the cars and its upgrade packages which is why I often only upgrade whenever necessary and with only a few that yields better overall performance.
Tuning (the thing right after you install performance parts) makes exotics much more drivable. Transmission needs to go full acceleration and suspension needs to go full oversteer (or don't tune the last one if it's too snappy). Of course engine nitro and turbo needs to go full power. Personally I don't tune tires because it makes the car feels very strange
I do similar but I personally tune transmission for speed as that way you can still take advantage of the exotic’s strongest suit. Although this is more applicable to races you can use drafters with.
With manual transmission and not automatic you can hit 320+mph with the better 3rd tier exotics.
The catchup mechanic in this game is cheating levels of overdone.
Yeah, and works other way as well. When I was struggling with Kenji’s Evo with my Elise, I switched back to Brera for fun and he was kindly waiting for me every time I fell behind. Didn’t let me close enough to try anything but as long as you don’t straight out crash, they won’t pull away either.
Isn't that exactly what you expect from an arcade racer? It's essentially a game for kids who need catch up
bruh you've never played Underground 1 then XD
@@defnotatroll it's called rubberband and it helps bad racers and works against good ones
If overtaking the opponent in canyon duel doesn't count as an instant win, then they rely on getting more pojnts, but also destroys the speedrun
I never used exotics ever. I tried using Wolf’s DB9 once, and it understeers harder than Nakazato could understeer his Skyline R-32.
Yo intial d fan?
True. Like a long time ago, I tried taking on Darius with the fully upgraded Murcialago, and it was tough as hell.
done that too its impossible, sold it and got the WRX and smoked him with 0 issues
First time i got to Darius i was using my ps2 still, was in a gallardo and oh my god was it stupid hard, and when I somehow beat him, the game crashed! Ordered the 360 version immediately after, in the 360 version I saved money well, so I had a maxxed murcialago, and a maxxed c6. First tried it in the murci, and would always lose within 500 points. Probably a skill issue on my part, but I tried it in the corvette and passed him on the first turn with ease.
The BMW M3 GTR that this game unfairly destroys from you and the Audi Le mans quattro and the CCX are probably the BEST exotics in the entire game
The Audi is sick but the fully upgraded Mercedes McLaren, Carrera GT and Murcielago are far better than the untunable additions in the collectors version
@@silvershadowjsh M3 GTR is on 2nd place from Lemans Quattro(R8)
@@silvershadowjsh Yes that's true. But the 911 Turbo is underrated big time, with the right tuning it destroys pretty much anything!
@@eldiablo73077 I think the 911 Turbo is faster than the M3. Maybe the Carrera too. But it's up there for sure
@@Solomon_C that’s fair; tbf I haven’t played the collector’s edition much so not as familiar with the 911 Turbo, just know it from the challenge series! Is it tuneable??
Just today I completed Carbon with the harder AI mod. Started with tuners and suffered for 3 days vs Kenji's FD. Then I bought the Eclipse, which made Tier 2 a breeze. However, Tier 3 was hell until I acquired the Mercedes SLR. Speed was satisfactory, but the steering vs. the unlocked AI just doesn't compete. I was suffering for another 3 days vs Darius. His Audi's cornering speed is just unreal. Since the final canyon has a lot of hairpins I though tuners would do better but no. I bought a Skyline and it did not have better cornering at all, just worse speed and acceleration. Finally I caved and bought the Dodge Viper. Yep, overtook Darius in the first turn and that's how I managed to win vs the modded AI. It's stupidly imbalanced. Acceleration > everything else in Carbon because of drift builds.
Grip builds are completely unviable vs the unlocked AI, because they all understeer too much even with oversteer suspension. Drift builds on the other hand are broken. It lets let you steer harder and keep most of the speed, just gotta know how to come out of the drift fast so you can accelerate early (without nitrous). A muscle can have comparable cornering with a tuner as long as you set it up for drift.
FYI, the mod doesn't make them cheat by making the car faster, it just prevents the AI from slowing down for you. It lets them use their own car to its maximum potential at all times. As far as straight line speed goes, the Mercedes could compete with that (was a tiny bit faster even on the straight).
2:20 nobody would brake xD
That Charger overtake was so smooth :D
Always loved that yellow Gallardo in the intro. Every time I played Carbon, I always spend some time to make it without fail.
But unfortunately as I just played Carbon after a long time ago as a kid, I've noticed Exotic was just terrible type with no redeemable quality. There's literally no reason to switch to it other than using your favorite car.
I did still made that yellow Gallardo, but on menu/quick race garage not in career. I just didn't want to throw away good chunk of money for basically a fast soapbox car with no steering wheel.
The Cayman wasn't a bad car. Or was it?
It wasn't for Tier 2. Elise is meta of Tier 2
As how it was in MW05
Wolf loses a race in an Aston Martin against an Alfa, bruh
The Aston in carbon understeers so much
It makes sense since in MW they were the best cars overall, in Carbon they wanted different type of cars to shine
Well when fully upgraded the golf and the fiat punto were better than all the “exotics” which I hated tbh and a reason why I liked Carbon
@@silvershadowjsh The Carrera GT and the Elise smoked both of them, the two most powerful cars there are exotics
@@danieltanuwijaya7675 Backroom performance upgrades though...
@@1InVader1 that's with Junkman upgrades and tuning included btw.
After years of playing Carbon I have to say that Exotics are not the best type of car in the game but I find them fun and kinda comfy to drive, I am a casual player, I maybe try to hard to win but I like to have fun my way, Tuners are really good at handling, really smooth but I don't like their lack of speed and those Muscles are scary, especially that Corvette but again I'm no pro and I hate to crash on the walls often, so I like to stay with the Exotics, nice speed, handling and acceleration with some of the most pretty cars I've ever seen
Honestly, the elise is so good I think it's in the wrong class all together. I also think the 350 Z should be in tier 2 though so maybe people just think differently to me...
350z better than most of the tier 3 tuners cars xd
@@teRRmann not in my experience. I use it as a last resort tier 3 car. Normally I stick with a tier 1 or 2 until I have a few upgrades available and by then I have better tier 3 cars to buy too.
The dlc Infiniti G35 should've been a tier 2. Slowest teir 3 by far.
@@jmjrulz9482 yep, still a lot cheaper in career mode than a lot of tier 2 though 😜
@@jmjrulz9482 just like Monaro should've been a tier 1.
The Elise would be much better if it didn’t understeer so much
Elise understeers? I guess I played a different Carbon.
you should use the reflection brightness fix found in hd reflections
it makes cars look way better on PC
and xtended-input considering you use a controller
Kenji should have won that one imo
I don't know if i'm the only one but when driving very understeer prone Exotics such as the Gallardo or Murcielago, i always use the handbrake instead, it always worked for me
tbf only tier 2 exotic cars suck a$$ and not even all of them. its just too bad the db9 and Mercedes in tier 2 a freaken boats that cant accelerate and the one thing they good at is top speed but they cant even reach it. Tier 1 exotic cars are best, tier 2 tuner cars are best, tier 3 muscle cars are best. tier 1 exotic cars are actual balance, tier 2 half of em are boats, tier 3 exotics are actually goof but the acceleration of muscle cars is stupid af
The only pink slip I’ve ever gotten was WOLF’s car, I sold it when the Subaru became available to purchase.
That lotus have a terrible understeer
Which is really disappointing because I'd expect it to handle and in general drive more like a tuner based on its real-life attributes.
@@MarkVinewood The way I remember playing the Lotus in this game is that its handling is excellent and that it turns pretty well too, or at least when it's maxed out with performance upgrades. Maybe you didn't max it out or tuned the handling in some way?
You're high, the Lotus Elise is the fastest tier 2 car and it has the best exotic handling, your tuning is probably wrong
Evidence: ruclips.net/video/CXJr0nYGO7I/видео.html
@@electricboi9319 I haven’t actually watched the video yet as I’ve been reading the comments but I believe the standard route in the speedrun is to use an Elise without upgrading any of the handling attributes. Im not sure if the mechanics of this game a bit off with upgrades (like the transmission upgrade Viper’s top speed in MW) but it might be that stock is better because of the game’s programming. I’ve not used the Elise much but it sure handles well. With a lot of the other testing ive done I found that handling upgrades didn’t make much of a difference at all, it’s more a way to tune the car which you can’t do without upgrades…
@@silvershadowjsh yeah, exactly! i am replaying the game atm and i noticed that the handling upgrades dont improve the elise's performance much, but tuning on suspension can help with tighter cornering. but honestly the absolute most crucial part to upgrade on it is the engine. Holy shit does the pro engine make a difference to the stock engine, its a night and day difference! the stock elise absolutely struggles against tier 2 enemies, but with the pro engine it can suddenly compete in silverton against tier 3 enemies and even against darius, given its great handling
My first playthrough was in exotics, 10 years later and i beat darius 1st try with a viper
Bro plays with manual transmission! Respect!!
Used the Carrara GT for the final race, absolutely destroyed him, literally i accidentally pushed him off the cliff going for a pass
Opponents in Canyon Duels are immune to knockback. He wrecked on his own. Players cannot force an opponent crash in a duel without trainers, mods or hacks.
@@brandonkeith628 he sucks at driving?
i dont know i how i beat nfsc with mazda lol
7:35 AI takes this curve inside and slow... It is like a "please pass me!" invitation. I mean, those who programed Darius should be less obvious.
I never race with exotic cars, never.
I go with muscle cars all the time. From Camaro SS to Corvette. Despite many attempts in Canyon Races, I did good.
Tuners are great too! I managed to beat darius in Kenji's RX-7, literally. :O
For me they are the hardest to drive but the most fun and broken once you learn how to use them, The Charger is a monster even being Tier 2, I used a Hemi Barracuda to beat Darius my first time XD.
Carrera GT was by far the best exotic in this game
The Elise has a performance of an Exotics while still having a handling of a Tuner
Lotus vehicles should be considered to be tuners not exotics
Lo mismo digo, también el Brera, serán Exóticos porque son Europeos?... si esa es la idea, que hacen el Golf R32 y el Clio V6 como Tuners?... que hace el Ford GT como un Exótico?
The little shift audio differences between the types of cars always made me prefer exotics with the super agressive shifting
i prefer the porsche cayman, the steering ratio on the elise... terrible
Almost every exotic car have understeer problem except lotus, carrera gt and ford gt
I do feel like the Elise should handle like a tuner since it's more of a handlinf car irl
Es como un MR2
Lotus overtake Lambo and R8 i mean bruh :O
Angies boss race is so easy even her 2nd race is just as easy
The Elise was a spectacular car in these older games especially Most Wanted but here in Carbon (like a lot of other exotics) it handled like a truck
Que tiene de Exótico el Elise?
@@octavioavellaneda4105 probably mid-engined just like lamborghinis and ferraris.
@@jululugz2893 Y que me decis del Toyota MR2?... es lo mismo que el Elise, pero como es Japonés, se lo considera como un Tuner, patético
It's funny how mostly American cars are muscles, Japanese cars are tuners and European cars are exotics. However, now there are also cars from other classes from these regions as well.
Japanese exotic: Nissan GTR
Japanese muscle: Nissan 2000 Skyline
American tuner: Chevy Cobalt SS
American exotic: Chevy Corvette/Dodge Viper (I highly doubt the muscle classification they gave them in this game)
European Tuner: VW Golf/VW beetle
European muscle: I actually don't know for this one.
Potential candidates of European muscle:
• Opel Astra
• Jensen Interceptor
• Jaguar F-Type
• Jaguar XJ
• Bentley Azure
• Bentley Flying Spur
• Rolls Royce Ghost
• BMW M8
• Porsche 914
• Audi e-tron GT RS
• Peugeot 505
• Peugeot RCZ
• Škoda 125 S
• Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG
• Volkswagen Borra
• Volkswagen Karmann Ghia
• Volkswagen SP2
• Saab Sonett
I think vauxhall monaro can count as an european muscle (even though its counted as a muscle in the game, it has attributes similar to tuners) because vauxhall is a british car company (im unsure)
@@aqop5548 is it? Vauxhall was Australian if i remember correctly
@@M1551NGN0 the aussie one is holden, gone bankrupt in 2020 iirc
Vauxhall is British, Holden is australian
El Alfa Romeo Brera no tiene nada de Exótico
Tune them for understeer. Seriously.
Makes them oversteer for some reason. Well, kinda.
They still understeer, but oversteer.
What I'm trying to say is:
Exotic Car do better corners understeer. Okay?
Finally someone that uses manual instead of automatic gearbox
Elise goes " :D yeah i win"
Now pull away from all bosses
At the very least Kenji is easily left in the dust with any Tier 2 and in Tier 3 as well (the EVO is very bad, as are all Tier 3 tuners). The muscle girls as well, since she can't take corners at all both in her Tier 2 and Tier 3 cars. Wolf... idk, maybe. In the Murcielago at least he's pretty damn fast.
trying to drive a 240SX with Max Upgrade to beat Daruis
07:39 is this exactly that place where i overtaken Darius with my silver McLaren
Huh! You need to master the damn class, I mastered it so it was no sweat to beat Darius in a stock Elise and a Maxed out Brera
BMW M3 GTR the only Exotic but have a Tuner and Muscle style.
It's more on tuner than muscle. Its natural aspiration limits its power potential.
Debería ser un Tuner
kenji's evo is easy to beat, you just can't handle the lotus that is a 50/50 tuning exotic
You make it look so easy lmao the only one I was able to pass was Kenji in his Mitsubishi
That was the hardest for me in Exotics. I did it quite dirty as you saw.
@@MarkVinewood yeah lmao, I usually prefer exotics but muscle has been growing on me
The Corvette is my main like damn
That car paired with the infinite nitro cheat is a beast
@@ThingusRaccomagucus Corvette is the best car in the game , at least for me
@@joeblack5253 oh i can agree, just messing around with the inifinate nitro cheat on GameCube was heaps of fun
@@joeblack5253 the roar tho
The best exotic might actually be the Lotus Elise
Congratulations!
how can i download the game again on pc
If my memory didn't fail me, the Elise had good handling back in NFSMW when it was maxed out, so seeing it as an exotic in Carbon let me confused as a kid. Not to mention how some cars got nerfed from MW to Carbon because of the tier separation.
El Brera ni debería ser un Exótico también
@@octavioavellaneda4105 yes, since it looks like a tuner car a hatchback
@@jululugz2893 Solo porque es Europeo es considerado como un Exótico... si es así, entonces el Golf R32 y el Clio V6 no deben ser Tuners... y el Ford GT debería ser ún Muscle por ser Yankee... en otras palabras, este juega esta mal hecho
bruh understeer
Looks hard
Will be hard
Soo exotics are meh since you can beat the game with a tier 2 car but others good when used against the same tier i got it :D 🤡😝
Wether the car is oversteering or understeering doesn't matter to me, I always manage to drive and steer right, It's not difficult if you're a good pilot like me.
Why "Meh"? Exotics are the fastest class in the game lol
Top speed means little if the means of reaching it are lacking. Muscles have a comparatively lower top speed, but accelerate like *mad*; meanwhile tuners still fall behind muscles overall, but their poor top end is effectively made up for by their excellent handling. Exotics simply don't have a lot of places to shine in Carbon.
@@ATomatoIsAFruit And who said you exotics is only top speed? Exotics are a balance between the three points and you never realised that lol 😂😂. Exotics have exactly same top speed than muscles (Medium).
And 2: Who said you acceleration is the most important point? In a race, the handling is what dominates. In your theory, if you put a dragster to beat an F1 in a race track, the dragster would win, and it's completely no sense and out of logic. The F1's are the world fastest cars because of it's handling. Once a car from chaparral foundry was BANNED from automobilism because the handling was very far superior than other cars. And more: This car was lower top speed and acceleration than others. So what makes you think acceleration is what make the race? This is not american drag racing. Need for speed carbon have corners and big straight lines, which allows handling and top speed work better
@@TITANa.k.a.RADIATION173 minor correction, Exotic has a MUCH higher top speed, but an average handling and acceleration, compared to Muscle. Even with correct tuning, as the Hemi Cuda (M) and Ford GT (E) has 470 & 520 kmh cap, the fastest in their respective class.
Also, unlike Rockport, Palmont lacks roads with long wide-straight line (except in Kempton) and generally have a lot of curves and hairpins, especially in canyon, thus acceleration, handling, and good cornering speed are prioritized more compared to top speed leading to Exotic being ignored in general (not helping most of them understeer a lot and are quite expensive). More so that we barely get to race in the highway during career.
@@TITANa.k.a.RADIATION173 the theory is sound, and in the real world I'd never compare an F1 car to a dragster. It's just that in Carbon, exotics simply are underwhelming one way or another.
@@ATomatoIsAFruit Do you play the game? Don't you realised exotics have a little bit more acceleration than tuners, same top speed than muscles, and medium handling? They have the best attributes balance possible. I think you don't play the game lol 😂😂. They have medium top speed acceleration and handling