I can already see every Fae Knight merchandise from this point onwards sold in USA as having them called Tam Lin first. But yeah, I don't care what's written in there, they're Fae/Fairy knights, not Tam Lin.
I know that Tam Lin has some deep meaning or story but c'mon there are Avalon Le Fae, Fae Britain, and the fairies themselves. Why not Fae Knights?! It is literally the perfect fit.
I would not be surprised if, just like "Altria", it was some stupid decision made by Nasu because he found the name on a Wikipedia article and thought it sounded cool.
@@Scoma19that's like labeling every single British knight from medieval times as "Sir Gawain" and then their actual names; like "Sir Gawain Joey, Sir Gawain Leon, Sir Gawain Johnathan"... makes no fucking sense. I kinda prefer back when the weirdest thing Nasu did regarding foreigners in his writting was giving them weird names and not to mess up with the British this badly. First it was Artoria and now the Fae Knights...
It's only a reference to Tam Lin, a literal knight who served a fairy queen. Also the legend is scottish which i suppose doesn't matter given the location, i guess.
@@Scoma19 i mean wouldn't be the first time. Lots of servants in game feel like they had their lore or a cool reference copy pasted from wikipedia. As much as i like her Clytie's the most recent example of this since the explanation for her in event was word for word off wikipedia lol
You cannot convince me Nasu didn't have a say on this. Either that or the translation team wanted to go "Good Doctor" mode and be good translators and showing off. If this was a translation liberty, it won't catch up.
@@abrahammesrajecorrea2349 Tam Lin was used on merch long before now, so it's a Nasuism. While it sounds silly, it's no different from "Noble Phantasm" being Hogu/Treasure Tool, the only difference is that people had twenty years to get used to that one.
@@zo0bit you said yourself Hougou can be translated as noble treasure or noble phantasm because that is roughly what it mean. Tam lin isn't a world you can translate because from what i could read there and here it's a name. What is worse is that the servant don't even use that term when they get summoned so what even is the point ?
@@notforyou2893 I don't understand why you're going after me, I'm not defending Tam Lin. I'm just saying there's a precedent for Nasu taking extreme liberties with how he thinks things should be translated.
Since I know Tam Lin as a demon/Persona from the SMT franchise, I imagine a Tam Lin standing next to each of the fairy knights. Wondering how the hell they ended up in the nasuverse. And throw in one SMT Cu Chulainn for the lulz, since it's just a color swapped Tam Lin. This is bizarre and only brings up more questions 😂
@@TheAnaz41745 Cu Chulainn has been part of the SMT franchise before it even got the "Shin Megami Tensei" name (the games started out with few "Megami Tensei" games before they added the "Shin" into the titles). Tam Lin has always been piggybacking off Cu's back when he does appear, and Cu tends to get more focus, such as having Setanta be a separate demon.
Same, but in my case I picture Tam Lin as a stand behind them being like "ok, wtf is going on?" while Stardust Crusaders theme plays in the background. Now the Fae Knights can always say "so it's the same type of [S T A N D] as Tam Lin"
I would accept the name change if it's logical and lore-related but (1) Tam Lin is not even fairy by birth, he's just a random dude who wandered through fairy land (2) Yes he served the fae queen but he is kinda coerced into it
@Tj Ossai Tam Lin is a Famous Scottish Fairytale and Also a character in said legendary ballad originating from the Scottish Border. Since most of these Characters are Fairytales themselves so it makes sense.
@@tjossai9302 there you have it. I think Tam Lin is also a man who has close relationship with Fairies? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the stories also has some sort of transformation, a quite good traits that Barghest, Baobhan Sith, and Melusine has. But still, not really ideal, but it's still works. Let's see what they do with this.
I got this girl at np4. 400 quartz. No Morgan. 4 barghests and one sith. One hand I'm sad. The other I'm in love with barghest. I've been testing her out using van gogh for crit buff and I love her so much. Grailed her to 90-will go further in the future- put cc's on all her cards and added her to my supports. I love her so much
Barghest calls herself Yōsei(妖精) Kishi(騎士) It literally translates into fairy knight How the fuck is the translation team so incompetent as to get this wrong?
@@ProvShadowTam Lin is its own character and not even a fairy by birth. That's the same as replacing "Jedi" as a title for "Obi-Wan Kenobi" because he too is a Jedi. Or labeling every single British knight from the medieval times as "Sir Gawain" because he's also that. It makes no sense.
@@lordtea but they decided to go with Altria, so yeah, nothing we can do about that. But hey, it's fun calling her "Altria" instead of "Artoria", not gonna lie.
Are you kidding me why her fight is harder when I fought her I swear her health meter decreased twice in the whole fight and it was really bad when I almost finished the first phase and also the second phase .(What I mean is when I'm almost done with her she do the thing )is the fight random or did I ruined the game?
How do people put so many grails on multiple servants? O_o Where do you people get so many grails? So far I only got Emiya Archer, Caster Gil, Altaria Lancer, Barghest and Sith to level 90 and have 8 Grails to spare. If I saved I could level one servant to 120
@@someguy6152 We'll be able to use 2000 servant coins twice per month to cast grails. Requires Tunguska (LB6.4, I guess we're calling it) completion. We get Tunguska at the end of the year and grail casting should come with New Year's 2024 unless they give it to us early at the anniversary.
Tam Lin is a pretty neat name when you know what it's actually about. I also like it because it's Scottish, which implies Baobhan got to decide the official title (in my little headcanon at least) which is cute.
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Tam lin sounds like a medicine for some reason
I have a feeling Tam Lin is going to go the way of Altria. Some people are just never going to use or accept it.
Well they have a strong point to object
@@lordtea Yup. Even Fae Knight would fit better.
I can already see every Fae Knight merchandise from this point onwards sold in USA as having them called Tam Lin first. But yeah, I don't care what's written in there, they're Fae/Fairy knights, not Tam Lin.
@@abrahammesrajecorrea2349what does Tam Lin mean?
Because let's be serious, Fae/Fairy Knight is a much better appellation than Tam Lin.
I know that Tam Lin has some deep meaning or story but c'mon there are Avalon Le Fae, Fae Britain, and the fairies themselves. Why not Fae Knights?! It is literally the perfect fit.
It doesn't have deep meaning. Tam Lin was never mentioned in JP LB6 in the story.
I would not be surprised if, just like "Altria", it was some stupid decision made by Nasu because he found the name on a Wikipedia article and thought it sounded cool.
@@Scoma19that's like labeling every single British knight from medieval times as "Sir Gawain" and then their actual names; like "Sir Gawain Joey, Sir Gawain Leon, Sir Gawain Johnathan"... makes no fucking sense.
I kinda prefer back when the weirdest thing Nasu did regarding foreigners in his writting was giving them weird names and not to mess up with the British this badly. First it was Artoria and now the Fae Knights...
It's only a reference to Tam Lin, a literal knight who served a fairy queen. Also the legend is scottish which i suppose doesn't matter given the location, i guess.
@@Scoma19 i mean wouldn't be the first time. Lots of servants in game feel like they had their lore or a cool reference copy pasted from wikipedia. As much as i like her Clytie's the most recent example of this since the explanation for her in event was word for word off wikipedia lol
They could've done it in a simple way by going with Faerie Knights, but no, they want to get fancy
Fancy huh 🤣
You cannot convince me Nasu didn't have a say on this. Either that or the translation team wanted to go "Good Doctor" mode and be good translators and showing off.
If this was a translation liberty, it won't catch up.
@@abrahammesrajecorrea2349 Tam Lin was used on merch long before now, so it's a Nasuism. While it sounds silly, it's no different from "Noble Phantasm" being Hogu/Treasure Tool, the only difference is that people had twenty years to get used to that one.
@@zo0bit you said yourself Hougou can be translated as noble treasure or noble phantasm because that is roughly what it mean.
Tam lin isn't a world you can translate because from what i could read there and here it's a name. What is worse is that the servant don't even use that term when they get summoned so what even is the point ?
@@notforyou2893 I don't understand why you're going after me, I'm not defending Tam Lin. I'm just saying there's a precedent for Nasu taking extreme liberties with how he thinks things should be translated.
Since I know Tam Lin as a demon/Persona from the SMT franchise, I imagine a Tam Lin standing next to each of the fairy knights. Wondering how the hell they ended up in the nasuverse.
And throw in one SMT Cu Chulainn for the lulz, since it's just a color swapped Tam Lin. This is bizarre and only brings up more questions 😂
Say, which one came first?
SMT Cu Chulainn or SMT Tam Lin?
I know the former first and thus think the latter is a copy, but is that really the case?
@@TheAnaz41745 Cu Chulainn has been part of the SMT franchise before it even got the "Shin Megami Tensei" name (the games started out with few "Megami Tensei" games before they added the "Shin" into the titles). Tam Lin has always been piggybacking off Cu's back when he does appear, and Cu tends to get more focus, such as having Setanta be a separate demon.
Same, but in my case I picture Tam Lin as a stand behind them being like "ok, wtf is going on?" while Stardust Crusaders theme plays in the background.
Now the Fae Knights can always say "so it's the same type of [S T A N D] as Tam Lin"
I would accept the name change if it's logical and lore-related but
(1) Tam Lin is not even fairy by birth, he's just a random dude who wandered through fairy land
(2) Yes he served the fae queen but he is kinda coerced into it
Main thing: Tam Lin was never mentioned in original script.
If that was lore-related, sure writers would mention Tam Lin in story, right?
I believe in you Tamale Gawain.
First Altria now this Tam Lin thing
Later
Castria 😂
I mean, both Altria and Tam Lin sounds okay to me.
@@AzizHabibi28 What does Tam Lin even mean???? Why not just leave it as fae knight?? Also I'm cool with Altria too
@Tj Ossai Tam Lin is a Famous Scottish Fairytale and Also a character in said legendary ballad originating from the Scottish Border. Since most of these Characters are Fairytales themselves so it makes sense.
@@tjossai9302 there you have it. I think Tam Lin is also a man who has close relationship with Fairies? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the stories also has some sort of transformation, a quite good traits that Barghest, Baobhan Sith, and Melusine has. But still, not really ideal, but it's still works. Let's see what they do with this.
My husband loves Barghest, so this video will help him to learn how to use her ^^
I got this girl at np4. 400 quartz. No Morgan. 4 barghests and one sith. One hand I'm sad. The other I'm in love with barghest. I've been testing her out using van gogh for crit buff and I love her so much. Grailed her to 90-will go further in the future- put cc's on all her cards and added her to my supports. I love her so much
Got NP2 while rolling for Morgan, I see this as an absolute win
I got Morgan while rolling for NP5 Barghest. lol
@@flankboi9788 This is the way
As bad as it sounds at least it will change to Barghest after reading lb6
But ALTRIA will forever be here as that meme we cant get rid of
CALTRIA...
I was mortified reading her going all "my name is Altria Caster"...what the actual fuck
Tam lin lel
Tam lin lel
Bruh ! I don't wanna be that guy but
Tam lin really??
Meanwhile, in the world of Shin Megami Tensei:
Tam Lin: why tf is everyone calling my name all of a sudden?... and why do I feel hostility from them?
I was curious if Barghest with First Servant CC could do this, and here we are.
Just ascend her and you will not see that Tam Lin name anymore
I kinda like tam lin but also don't at the same time, its weird but also cool. Still prefer fairy knight tho💀
I don't mind the Tam Lin, but... Good God. Britomart's voice is destroying my eardrums.
Everyone is fighting between tam lin or fae knight. Bruh its barghest.
finally best fairy knight content. but wtf is tam lin? 🧐
Tam Lin is Fae Knight in Scottish Lore
@@kohakuu1005 yeah I know, I was joking about new translation
@@kohakuu1005
For naming sense
Welsh enter the chat
@@lordtea lol you're right!
Bageko, the only muscle you need
Virgin Faerie Knight Britomart vs Chad Tam Lin Gawain
Nah, they look like the whole opposite for titles. I can already picture Britomart crying "I AM A TAM LIN" while Barghest is unamussed lol
It'll be Tam Lin Britomart when her event comes in NA kekw
First video with name 'Tam Lin' I watched 🙃
Barghest calls herself Yōsei(妖精) Kishi(騎士)
It literally translates into fairy knight
How the fuck is the translation team so incompetent as to get this wrong?
Tam Lin is Scottish for Fairy Knight too.
It seems it comes from Lasengle, as even official merch for anni 8 calls them Tam Lin.
@@marisbury
More like welsh enter the chat
@@ProvShadow man fk Scottish then where tf is the actual Fae knight English!!!! English Damm it
@@ProvShadowTam Lin is its own character and not even a fairy by birth. That's the same as replacing "Jedi" as a title for "Obi-Wan Kenobi" because he too is a Jedi. Or labeling every single British knight from the medieval times as "Sir Gawain" because he's also that. It makes no sense.
As a smt enjoyer. This do pique my interest.
yousei kishi
I always find it weird since Britomart is carrying a sword she was supposed to be a saber or something but they decided to change at the end?
Somehow I rolled two copies and even got jumpscared by Heracles in the same multi.
Bargesh is basically a King Hassan lite
Saber Hassan
Taira: am i a joke?
wtf tam lin, fire translator plz
Apparently it was Nasu's idea.
Welsh x scottish
Best pair for naming 😂
Please with lostbelt 6 in Na today
Please never called castoria as Castria 🤢😒
Nah, Altria all the way. Class is just how they differentiate between all those Altria varians 😂
@@AzizHabibi28
Worse
Artoria resembles the original Arthur word more
@@lordtea but they decided to go with Altria, so yeah, nothing we can do about that. But hey, it's fun calling her "Altria" instead of "Artoria", not gonna lie.
ok let's call her castratia then
@@AzizHabibi28
Ok fine
But if someone wants to do like Castoria name for Altria ver
I don't recommend
Wonder why there names are tam Lin I like fairy knight better
Scottish fairy folk tales
@@mosark6554
Weird name exist
Scottish = wales
This is Good.
Are you kidding me why her fight is harder when I fought her I swear her health meter decreased twice in the whole fight and it was really bad when I almost finished the first phase and also the second phase .(What I mean is when I'm almost done with her she do the thing )is the fight random or did I ruined the game?
barbest
Scottish Knights lmafao
How do people put so many grails on multiple servants? O_o
Where do you people get so many grails?
So far I only got Emiya Archer, Caster Gil, Altaria Lancer, Barghest and Sith to level 90 and have 8 Grails to spare.
If I saved I could level one servant to 120
If you started at the beginning of the game's release you would have close to 70 just from stories and events done to completion.
Next year (or this I don’t remember ) you can literally craft grails
@@sentryion3106 can't you already do that with the grail seeds from the Grail Fronts, or is it a permanent way of farming grails?
@@someguy6152 We'll be able to use 2000 servant coins twice per month to cast grails. Requires Tunguska (LB6.4, I guess we're calling it) completion. We get Tunguska at the end of the year and grail casting should come with New Year's 2024 unless they give it to us early at the anniversary.
I wanted her but got the other Fae Knight.
Oh ok🙂👏
Tam lin exist
Me: dying by cringe 🥲🎻🕊️😊
What craft is used for this servant?
Ngu yen Gawain
Tam lin doesn't even mean anything or related to vietnamese clan bruh
Got her NP 4 with 60 Quartz today
Same but with 90 sq I think bageko really likes to bless everyone's rolls
@@elvinereve663 Not me, I had to spend like 180+ for one Barghest 💀
am I the only one who lowers the FX sounds?
What does Tam Lin even mean? There’s like serval meaning to it & I don’t know which one is the correct one
It's relate to the Gawain and other Knight in Scottish Lore
Nah fae knight
Nasu cooking
I love these new chinese servants
That's racist as hell lmao
@@tonelico_thesavior thanks, i tried my best
Please dont call her that lol
Tamale gaming
Tam Lin is a pretty neat name when you know what it's actually about. I also like it because it's Scottish, which implies Baobhan got to decide the official title (in my little headcanon at least) which is cute.
Tam Lin is Scottish language mean “Fairy Queen” instead of”Fae Kinght”, it is so many meanings: Tam Lien or Tamas Lin or Tambling or Tam-a-Line or……
Death by Snu Snu.
Tilin?
I will just unsub if you ever again call any of the Fairy Knights that.
Found you
And nothing of value would be lost