@@yestoES355 but star wars didn't cut out scenes from the theatrical edition so they could release the extended edition with an inflated added amount of minutes of footage
I watched all three over the weekend , and they still hold up really really well and don’t seem to feel “old” at all due to its Fantasy setting I guess
Only if you've already seen the theatrical versions. I had never watched lotr until i was 25, when i sat and watched all 3 extended movies one after the other. I had to stop every 5 minutes to google names and locations that the movie acted like we're supposed to know already.
@@babbisp1 lmao it didnt. They say we're going to this and that place and then the go there so you see it, no need to google the place. Same goes with names...
Dude, you must have a mic in my house... literally just had this convo with my wife. I asked her... when did you abandon reason for madness. She just stared at me... not getting it.
It was amazing to see the movies I love in their greatest form! What say you? Will you be picking up LOTR in 4K? What about The Hobbit trilogy? Affilate links: The Lord of the Rings Trilogy on 4K UHD: amzn.to/3lluDOa The Hobbit Trilogy on 4K UHD: amzn.to/37h9CiB I can also confirm that the included Digital Copies - both theatrical and extended - are also in 4K.
The effects also got a treatment. They weren’t entirely re-animated or anything like that. And there wasn’t any “George Lucas” treatment. I guess the best way I can think to say it is they fit with the live stuff equally as well as they did before. So if you compare live vs CG on Blu-ray, and live vs CG on 4K - those comparisons within their formats will be about the same, if that makes sense.
I just can't wait to see all the amazing details in Erebor. Really loved the design and architecture of it, but it's so dark inside the mountain you almost couldn't see anything else besides smaug and some pillars
The DNR on this is very flawed. If you compare this to actual proper 4k film restorations like total recall you will notice this release will not hold up. A 10/10 is just unfair. It actually looks less sharp when compared to the bluray in some parts.
I have all 3 original Directors cut. I prefer the extended versions and as far as I'm concerned, one can never have enough Lord Of The Rings. 💍 I think I want the 4K version too.
would agree, i remember seeing the theatrical versions in theatre after watching the trailers which had extended scenes in them and then as i had already read the books i was like there shit missing in there ah. wheres the witch-king vs Gandalf scene which was in the trailers but wasn't included in the theatrical cut
@@kevinfelix2543 completely agree. Can you imagine The Return Of The King without Saruman dying the way he did? I know in the books, he died during the Scouring of the Shire, but Peter's adaptation was wonderful, nonetheless. Thanks for your post!👍
@@whitemoses7913 I was blown away when I heard a Christopher lee interview saying that his death scene was taken out entirely I was like “holy shit there’s more?!” Bought the extended versions the next day lol One thing I thought was so interesting is how much editing and cleaning up was done to create the finished theatrical product, as I’ve never seen any extended cuts or behind the scenes of any movie really. This biggest thing that stood out to me was how the music changed in some scenes. For me, as for most fans I’m sure, the score is really what made the experience. And in the extended versions you can tell they went in and made little tweaks to where the music lines up or maybe put in a certain phrase in a different spot, and surprisingly it really shows on the finished product. The best example for this is of course when the Orcs are sneaking up the river to take osgiliath. I’m the extended version, I believe we actually get a flashback of when Faromir actually finds boramirs horn in the river (hopefully this is the scene, it’s been about 2 months😅) as this scene led right into the attack on osgiliath, at this point, the music had already working towards a climax, ultimately leading right when faromir makes the first strike. But as we know in the theatrical version we don’t even have that flashback!! So this directly led to them being able to cut out the music entirely and totally changing the mood of the scene from an inevitable, head-on battle, to a stealthy “element of surprise” type attack. And this of course was a perfect way to depict that scene. Of course this is just my speculation and maybe they had other motives but I just thought that was really cool to think about. hats off to peter and his team for the best films ever made👌🏻
Gotta say the extended editions I got from the early 2000's had exquisite artwork on every bit of the packaging even the discs and the fact you could get the Gollum figure and others with each made them so special and that was even before seeing the beautifully incorporated deleted/extended scenes. I don't think anything will ever compare or better them.
I just watched The Fellowship tonight. There's so many details that I never noticed before and the picture was so beautiful that it almost felt like watching the movies for the first time again.
Yup! We're that old now... Also Avatar was 11 years ago. The last harry potter movie was 9 years ago. RUclips released 15 years ago, it's old enough to drive a moped and have sex, in Sweden.
Going to really enjoy watching that rider of Rohan fall out of his saddle and getting dragged by his horse as they charge across the pelennor fields in 4K.
Watching the LOTR in theaters was nothing short of magical. I can say without a doubt in my lifetime there will never be another movie experience like it.
Just letting you know, you and a couple other LotR RUclipsrs has helped reignite my love of the franchise. Hoping in the after times to be able to afford EVERYTHING, books and movies. Thank you!
Don't worrie everyone he told me...and it's now my secret and I shall keep it to myself till it passes out of all memory and becomes myth...mine I tell you...MINE!!!! MWHAHHAHA*cough*hahahaa
5:31 Nerd of the Rings: Reminds us - during a video about _Lord of the Rings,_ on a channel dedicated to _Lord of the Rings_ - that he is, in fact, a _Lord of the Rings_ superfan.
Nice to hear that they fixed up the sound mix. I’ve always found the Blu-ray edition to be kind of “mumbly”. I have a 4K TV, but no 4K player… guess I’ll have to get one!
Anyone in Australia hunting a copy? I just grabbed one from sanity.com.au online. A couple of stores have click and collect so check first to save postage
That image of the old school VHS copy of LOTR.. That was me, i watched it on that and it blows my mind to now be sitting here in the year 2021 and be watching it in unreal 4k resolution. Perfect review as always
Sold out everywhere in the UK too, crazy, managed to get one though. Hearing that on a technical level these are some of if not the best 4k remasters done, with completely regraded colour for hdr and a full dolby atmos sound rework. Cant wait to watch these badboys!
Actually disappointed with my set. There DNR and artificial sharpening all through the set. Actually this film is the most processed looking film since the The dark knight blu Ray. Detail is improved yes in close ups, but overall imagine looks like a TV broadcast of the film with the processed look of it.
Ya unfortunately for me, while the green tint is gone, the PQ isn't better imo. The HDR is bad too, barely noticeable. The Balrog scene should have been amazing, and it was not bright at all. Also the atmos mix is terrible for the center channel, while the reviewer didn't have this problem, I constantly had to adjust my volumes.
@@jackburton2946 that's what I was afraid of when I saw the video of Peter Jackson saying the primary reason he wanted to update them to 4k was that he wanted the Lord of the Rings movies to match the look of the Hobbit films. I dont like the look of the Hobbit films, too "TV processed" like you said
@@jorox34 I loved the HFR version of the Hobbit in the cinema. I'd love to see LOTR looking like that, unfortunately it can't be done. The Hobbit HFR vs standard is like a window to another reality vs just a movie for me. It was so visually stunning that it made up for the terrible content quite successfully.
They wiped out so many details that you wouldn't even believe. Things like erasing the top of Gandalf's staff, smoothing everything so it looks like the first Tomb Raider and oversharpening the edges until they develop a strong white edge around them. It's a scam really.
I work in the film industry in Wellington, New Zealand and I thought I'd just mention that you were not correct when you said that Weta was involved in this restoration project. I don't believe they were involved. The two companies that it would make more sense to be behind it are Wingnut, Peter's production company, and Park Road Post, the local post production house that is wall-to-wall with cutting edge tech. EDIT: I just checked with a colleague. It was definitely Park Road Post that did the 4k UHD work.
Ah, thank you for pointing that out. I had read an article where they listed WETA as well, but I guess they must have been mistaken. Thanks for lending your expertise to keep me on the level!
@@NerdoftheRings FWIW, I'm used to youtubers getting way more things wrong than you did here. Don't even get me started about the misconceptions around the Avatar sequels. So, thanks for being comparatively well informed!
Could you, please, post a link to the source of the “restoration done in 4K”? Curious to know your thoughts on the DNR and EE. Could you, also, point to time stamps where you noticed more detail in this release?
As someone who's a massive fan of the incredible and often groundbreaking digital and practical effects in these movies, of the incredible locations and sets, the intricately detailed costumes and props, this is a must buy for me. I don't know how many times I watched the special features on the DVDs just because I was so enamored with everything that went into making these incredible films. Seeing the work that the incredible artists at WETA put into these movies in 4k is going to be a real treat.
I don't understand those who prefer a theatrical version to an extended version. I mean there are so many great moments in the extended version that after watching it, watching a theatrical version feels like you miss so much, and it's true. The moment when Gandalf speaks the black language in the Elven house, it's such a powerful moment.
@@walkdeep I've watched a theatrical version a few times, but I still prefer an extended version. For me it's not even an extended version, it's a proper version. When I was watching a theatrical version, somehow it felt like something was missing. I wouldn't mind if an extended version was even longer. Go figure. That's how different we all are :-))).
The scene where Saruman dies, the scenes with Boromir in Two Towers, and The mouth of Sauron should have been in theatrical. Everything else drags and is super overindulgent imo. 4.5 hours is just ridiculous lol
Good video BUT i would say that you stating that you were NOT going to get them and wait for the Collectors edition put this in a strange sort of position for me. You say you were going to wait but you love these....but you also got them sent to you for free. So getting stating you were going to wait, put a bit of a confusion to this review
Just helped to emphasise his excitement. He was going to wait, got these earlier than he expected and was oh so happy he didn't have to wait another six months.
If you want LOTR to look like the Hobbit, it’s for you. Because it’s not LOTR in 4K. There is a lot of bad Digital Noise Reduction. They removed the grain from the CGI ( back in the days they added it to make it looked like it belonged in the movie) and they changed the grading of the whole pictures. It looks like the Hobbit. And it’s not a compliment. The job was rushed for Xmas, wait for the summer release to see if they improved things after le backlash they received. Edit: I forgot to talk about the audio. It’s mostly good but some sounds are missing from some scenes. Such as the end of the fight between Saruman and Gandalf.
This goes against the information I have read elsewhere. Elsewhere it's reported that this is *not* a new scan, but rather a remastered and upscaled version of the 2k prints (same as used for the old blu-ray). And the DNR used is pretty awful. And the box set doesn't include the appendices, for that matter.
1:48 bro when you started listed these really made me smile. Had VHS of the fellowship as a kid. Then we got the extended versions on DVD. That VHS tho was replayed about a million times! Great review!
Haha! Good eye! I got it for throwing 2,633 baseball pitches in 8 hours. It was the main even of a fundraiser when my wife and I were saving up to adopt our daughter. 😊
@@NerdoftheRings that just sounds so long. 8 hours...but that is a great reason for a fundraiser, I have never heard of people fundraising for an adoption. Btw thank you for the videos, really enjoying them, might get me back into my own nerdiness of the rings.
Can’t wait!!! I saw these when I was a child (VHS!!!). My brother brought home the fellowship and we had a family movie night. I’ll never forget that experience ❤️.
@@mihaimercenarul7467 define "not needed". I am a Tolkien fan since the 80s so my needs may differ compared to yours :) The extended editions add content for the purists. For the rest it might even be boring sure.
not really, there are a couple of good scenes in the extended edition that shouldn't be removed like faramir's flashback with boromir, or saruman's deatj, but many others don't really bring much nor change the story of the threatrical version. Fellowship of the ring brough many unnecessary scenes in the extended edition@@badtothebone93
I was 12 when the first LOTR and first HP film game out in 2001 and I preferred HP due to them being kids in it and as an adult at 31 now I appreciate LOTR more than HP as it’s a more mature story than HP but I still like HP a lot but I d love to see more LOTR films , that new TV show could be a start as long as it’s not tuned by wokeness.
Didn't Peter Jackson say he had a whole bunch of extra scenes. One of the scenes was supposedly Treebeard and Legolas having a conversation. And on the DVD commentary he said that if there is ever a special edition to be released again that he would try to add those scenes back. It was something like another few hours of footage. I hope they do that.
What a fantastic review! You brought the experience you had to life for the viewers of your review - something very difficult to do. But now... I still don’t know which to purchase given that I may not have time to watch the 4K version before the ultimate collection comes out. Either way - very well done.
Do your research. Def don't go for most cheapest. Also Play Station may be good but cheaper true 4K players may be better for output. So all count. I'd recommend 4K Sony Bravia 950, the Samsung Q90 or the LG CX9 OLED 65" 2020 models all now priced very well 1000$ below 1-2 yrs ago upon their release. The 2020 models all have better processing chips and dedicated audio outputs and new 2.1 HDMI ports to get better quality. Don't worry for sale discounts cause they will be priced same all yr just maybe 100$ up with no sales. And now tv makers are not making new technology for years as these suffice. 8K is useless to the eye since also disk only outputs 4K true HD. These LOTR are remastered not 4K with up scaling but true 4K HD. Wish they did Dolby Vision cause its just an extra boost in video quality. At least they did Atmos sound which is huge difference.
I'm so glad they didn't do that stupid "cardboard book" packaging that many companies have been doing lately. Those risk scratching the discs every time you slide them out/in (which is why I take the discs out and store them separately in proper protective cases) so it's really nice that this has actual PROPER packaging that protects the discs and houses them well.
I’ve commented on your videos before, but want to say it again. Thanks for putting in the work on these videos, you and the content you create are awesome.
Exactly.. its just an upscaled version of the blu ray set and some color correction applied to fix the mistake from the blu ray set of fellowship… (should have been a recall)..hard pass until the studio releases a true definitive 4k version.. till then am happy to watch the blu ray set.. also no DNR on the blu ray set..
Wow, I feel old. I was in the second grade when The Fellowship hit the big screen, and remember my buddies from my sixth grade class, and I all going to see the Return of the King. Hard to believe this is almost twenty years ago.
even tho i learn towards the original formats i dont really think this is a mindless gimmick like the bluray versions... jackson worked on these himself in the editing room
I'm seeing the 4k versions in cinema for a 20th anniversary marathon this weekend!!! I was only a baby when the films came out, so this is my first time seeing it on the big screen. So excited!!!!
Me: "Shut up and take my..." Out of nowhere, a hand swipes the cash from my grasp. Warner Bros: "That's the whole point sucker." Whistling as they count the dough in their greedy hands. But seriously, I think I'll give it a buy one of these days.
Can't wait to see Legolas and Gimli's rivalry, like *"Shall I describe it to you? Or would you like me to find you a box?"* in 4K xD Or cry when Aragorn says *_"My friend, you bow to no one"_*
I personally don’t feel like buying the 4K releases until *a)* I have a player and TV that are capable of displaying the HDR in its full glory, and *b)* they include the Appendices and all other special features on a future release or do a separate release of the those special features.
Tevilo Master of Catssssss!!! The curse if Nims gold and the betrayal of the Nauglafring! Turin's curse! The love of Beren & Luthien! Ungweliant and her suckling of the great trees from Valinor! The Music of the Ainur! None of these will ever translate as well to screen as Peter's trilogy. The only movies that actually compliment the books instead of standing in their shadow. Kids are too dumb these days and it would be bad financially to rely too heavily on the audience's intelligence these days- especially with the Teacher's Union purposely ruining a generation of minds for political & personal reasons. #Sad
Man it's been 20 years lol These movies are ageless. Can't wait for 4K hope they did real good job on them. Finally 4K for LOTR. I can't even say how many times I've watched these over 20 yrs. Extended Editions all the way.
Was actually hoping for a video to go over the more advanced aspect of the restoration process. Definitely get surround sound even if it's just a simple setup system, these may be the best movies ever for it.
Get a pair of surround speakers and 2 or 4 overhead atmost speakers. You can upgrade in phases if needed to get decent quality speakers. Once you have a full atmos system, you will be find the sound is much more enveloping with great use of surround and overhead effects.
I'm just sad that none of the newer releases (including the 2021 Collector's Edition) doesn't come with the Appendecies like the first DVD/Blu-Ray sets had.
I watched reviews where people literally SHAT on this version the entire review so I was hesitant to spend the $80 but DAMN have I been missing out by waiting. This is BY FAR the best 4k version of any "older" movie I've seen in 4k. WOWIE WOW WOW!!!
Thanks for such an honest review Matt. Much appreciated. It was really nice of WB to send you the review editions. Bet you haven't stopped smiling yet! I won't be getting a 4K TV & player until after Christmas & haven't yet decided whether to get this edition or wait until summer 2021 (decisions, decisions ....).
It’s a tough decision for sure! Especially not knowing what the new bonus features will be. I don’t think I will stop smiling for a while - these films are going on repeat. 😁
Simply my favourite movies ever, they just totally draw me into a fantastical & effecting world, so happy I secured myself the steelbook versions of the Lord of the Rings and the Hobbit, they are simply gorgeous editions, & yes I can confirm the image is beautiful all the tiny details and the colours over previous versions, proves just how much went into creating these movies & now perceivable like never before.... just WoW, & the sound in Dolby Atmos is truly astounding, enveloped by sound like the rain falling from above & the klang of swords clashing, I could go on.... just perfect, full kudos to Peter Jackson et al for putting in such a wonderful loving effort, completely & wholeheartedly agree with your review, fans are in for real a treat 😊
Thanks for this. I reckon I'll suffer with my blu-ray another 6 months for the collector's edition, but now i know beyond a doubt that i will be making the upgrade.
OH MY GOD! I was waiting for this for so long! and i see it just now! Maybe because unfortunately here in Italy i didn't have any news about this, and these seems to be available only in the English version i guess! My god i can't wait to be able to see those! Do you have any informations about International versions? And more importantly, as i just can't wait for the collectors edition, will they make an international edition too? I hope... This is outstanding!! Just found out your channel and i love it so much! New subscriber and fan here! ahah IM SO HYPED
I unfortunately don't own a 4k player so I bought the 20th anniversary blueray remasters which I heard are really good in terms of quality so I'm looking forward to watching them that way. Love the review for this and the hobbit trilogy by the way I enjoyed how in depth you go with what you say. Keep up the good work my friend
Then you will have to stick with Bluray or DVD. Tho they should release that remastered footage in 1080p on Bluray too..just so issies like green tint are gone plus itbwould make it look crisp aswell
I have LotR extended trilogy on DVD (I even sent away for the special slipcover that holds all of the movies) and the blu-ray set. I really am looking forward to getting the whole set on 4K and it will likely drive my equipment purchases in the near future. Like getting a better TV, for one, and _maybe_ upgrading to an Atmos system from my present Dolby PLIIx 7.1 system. I'm a little curious why they would put out just the movies now instead of waiting to have all of the bonus material together with them, too. Well, we all know the answer is MONEY, but I'm just wondering what their release plan is. Is the full package going to cost _that_ much more that offering a set that has _just_ each trilogy will appeal to some people who otherwise wouldn't get the full bonus material edition? Maybe thinking that they can just watch their old sets with their bonus material. But, wait! They said that there will be "new and never seen before material" in the new collection! So, I don't know how I feel about the whole situation and, frankly, myself. :/ So, they put out the movies only edition to coincide with the holidays, of course. But, I'm going to wait to get the collector's edition when it comes out. Am I playing right into their money grubbing hands, here? And what happens after this? Will there be yet another "super duper deluxe combined WITH NEVER BEFORE SEEN MATERIAL" edition a few years from now? I don't know. I really like these films. (Well, mostly LotRs, but, to quote from another fantasy tale, that is another story...) But I just hate to feel like I'm being used as a money tree. :/ Anyway, so, yes, definitely upgrade to at least 5.1 surround sound. Yeah, soundbars are getting pretty good these days, but it's amazing what a subwoofer, center and surround channels can do. Especially when there's more than one or two people watching (and spread around a room), nothing beats discrete (separate) channels of sound.
Explaining to my girlfriend why I bought the same movie for the 4th time.
Haha
But honey, on this edition you can practically taste the Old Toby!
Haha... i feel you brother!
Yeah I got the blu ray not too long ago not looking forward to that convo
I've bought Star Wars 5 times now.
Can't wait to see the details of Eomer's sword as it falls off his sheath.
Oh my goodness 😂
This guy hahaha
these days he could really use one against Homelander
hahahaha
you're the only other person who I have ever seen comment on that. All my friends are still like waaaat....
I can't wait to watch Denethor eat a tomotato in all that juicy 4k goodness!
😂 Yum! You can practically taste it! Lol!
Perfect comment
And rip drumsticks from his chicken in remastered audio.
And enter his C&C Red Alert death scream when he sets a fire unto his flesh.
just watched that a few hours ago. at least Denethor got a good meal before her plummeted burning off the cliff.
Come! Sing me a song! *loud squelching noises*
Me: gets the 9 discs in 4k, already owns all previous editions, has no plans to buy more
Warner Bros: *THAT STILL ONLY COUNTS AS ONE*
Don’t worry, you get extra bonus features for spring 2021 😉
@Skywalker Hunter every movie did that in the early to mid 00s. Star Wars did the same thing with their dvd releases
@@yestoES355 but star wars didn't cut out scenes from the theatrical edition so they could release the extended edition with an inflated added amount of minutes of footage
Lmfao what a geek
@@robertrijkers4923 They did cut shit, Special Editions exist.
I am extremely happy that these movies are still very much relevant as they were when they were released 20 years ago
North Reisende dude 100 years can pass and this trilogy may not be rivaled. It’s timeless thank the gods.
Yeah, the books are already more than 60 years old and it is STILL relevant in current years.
I watched all three over the weekend , and they still hold up really really well and don’t seem to feel “old” at all due to its Fantasy setting I guess
1:02 9 disks!, 9 rings were gifted to the race of man.
underrated comment tbh
I came here for this comment
Tolkien died in 1973.
Backwards is 3791.
3 to the elves, 7 to the dwarves, 9 to men, 1 to rule them all.
@@pyedog8674 O.O
@@pyedog8674o dang he's right *illuminati music intensifies*
Honestly, who’s even watching the theatrical cuts anymore?? Extended all the way, haha!
I actually think some of the extended scenes detract from the experience. But other scenes are fantastic.
I actually prefer the theatrical cuts. They flow better
@@Hero_Of_Old pathetic
@@playermartin286 pathetic
@@StrangerBlocks okay then....
Watching all three extended editions of the films in a row is one of the most amazing cinematic experiences ever.
That's like 12 straight hours wtf lol
@@marianopie3785 it’s worth it
One of?
Only if you've already seen the theatrical versions. I had never watched lotr until i was 25, when i sat and watched all 3 extended movies one after the other. I had to stop every 5 minutes to google names and locations that the movie acted like we're supposed to know already.
@@babbisp1 lmao it didnt. They say we're going to this and that place and then the go there so you see it, no need to google the place. Same goes with names...
Me: Whats that?
My friend: This my friend is a 4K.
Me: It comes in 4K!?!?!?!? I'm getting one.
My second friend: You have a Blu Ray already!
Brilliant!
Dude, you must have a mic in my house... literally just had this convo with my wife. I asked her... when did you abandon reason for madness. She just stared at me... not getting it.
So true very funny lol 😂
Yeah this made me chuckle 🙏 Bravo
@@clintstuckeyYou can tell she didn't watch much of Fellowship 😭
It was amazing to see the movies I love in their greatest form! What say you? Will you be picking up LOTR in 4K? What about The Hobbit trilogy?
Affilate links:
The Lord of the Rings Trilogy on 4K UHD: amzn.to/3lluDOa
The Hobbit Trilogy on 4K UHD: amzn.to/37h9CiB
I can also confirm that the included Digital Copies - both theatrical and extended - are also in 4K.
It seems amazing but i would like to ask if they made any changes to the CGI effects?
The effects also got a treatment. They weren’t entirely re-animated or anything like that. And there wasn’t any “George Lucas” treatment. I guess the best way I can think to say it is they fit with the live stuff equally as well as they did before. So if you compare live vs CG on Blu-ray, and live vs CG on 4K - those comparisons within their formats will be about the same, if that makes sense.
I just can't wait to see all the amazing details in Erebor. Really loved the design and architecture of it, but it's so dark inside the mountain you almost couldn't see anything else besides smaug and some pillars
so did they fix legolas' eyes???
To quote a famous Fool of a Took: "I'm Getting One!!!"
*Edit Thanks for the Likes, I have never gotten past 100 likes before...*
*It comes in 4k?* 👀
I love the internet
"You've already had a whole half!"
You've got a whole half 4k already!
Fun fact: Pippin is the only hobbit to have a stomach the size of 4 full grown men combined
The DNR on this is very flawed. If you compare this to actual proper 4k film restorations like total recall you will notice this release will not hold up.
A 10/10 is just unfair. It actually looks less sharp when compared to the bluray in some parts.
I have all 3 original Directors cut. I prefer the extended versions and as far as I'm concerned, one can never have enough Lord Of The Rings. 💍
I think I want the 4K version too.
They come with the extended editions
would agree, i remember seeing the theatrical versions in theatre after watching the trailers which had extended scenes in them and then as i had already read the books i was like there shit missing in there ah. wheres the witch-king vs Gandalf scene which was in the trailers but wasn't included in the theatrical cut
@@kevinfelix2543 completely agree. Can you imagine The Return Of The King without Saruman dying the way he did?
I know in the books, he died during the Scouring of the Shire, but Peter's adaptation was wonderful, nonetheless.
Thanks for your post!👍
@@joeybox0rox649 Yeah, I was like "Where'd Saruman go?" when seeing the originals. The extended edition provided answers to so many questions.
@@whitemoses7913 I was blown away when I heard a Christopher lee interview saying that his death scene was taken out entirely I was like “holy shit there’s more?!” Bought the extended versions the next day lol
One thing I thought was so interesting is how much editing and cleaning up was done to create the finished theatrical product, as I’ve never seen any extended cuts or behind the scenes of any movie really. This biggest thing that stood out to me was how the music changed in some scenes. For me, as for most fans I’m sure, the score is really what made the experience. And in the extended versions you can tell they went in and made little tweaks to where the music lines up or maybe put in a certain phrase in a different spot, and surprisingly it really shows on the finished product.
The best example for this is of course when the Orcs are sneaking up the river to take osgiliath. I’m the extended version, I believe we actually get a flashback of when Faromir actually finds boramirs horn in the river (hopefully this is the scene, it’s been about 2 months😅) as this scene led right into the attack on osgiliath, at this point, the music had already working towards a climax, ultimately leading right when faromir makes the first strike.
But as we know in the theatrical version we don’t even have that flashback!! So this directly led to them being able to cut out the music entirely and totally changing the mood of the scene from an inevitable, head-on battle, to a stealthy “element of surprise” type attack. And this of course was a perfect way to depict that scene. Of course this is just my speculation and maybe they had other motives but I just thought that was really cool to think about. hats off to peter and his team for the best films ever made👌🏻
Gotta say the extended editions I got from the early 2000's had exquisite artwork on every bit of the packaging even the discs and the fact you could get the Gollum figure and others with each made them so special and that was even before seeing the beautifully incorporated deleted/extended scenes. I don't think anything will ever compare or better them.
I just watched The Fellowship tonight. There's so many details that I never noticed before and the picture was so beautiful that it almost felt like watching the movies for the first time again.
I've gotten this question quite a bit on Facebook & Twitter, so I checked it out - this set has subtitles in English, French, Spanish, and Dutch.
Can’t wait to hear the drums in the Deep, and Gandalf to say “FOOL OF A TOOK” more clearer😂
I'm sorry, did you say "20 years later"?! 😳
Yup! We're that old now... Also Avatar was 11 years ago.
The last harry potter movie was 9 years ago.
RUclips released 15 years ago, it's old enough to drive a moped and have sex, in Sweden.
shhhhh
20 moiles!!
@@soulextracter So time to unban sex, violence and naughty words on the platform then.
@@johndododoe1411 Yeah I wish haha.
Going to really enjoy watching that rider of Rohan fall out of his saddle and getting dragged by his horse as they charge across the pelennor fields in 4K.
first time noticing it after 100 watches
Watching the LOTR in theaters was nothing short of magical. I can say without a doubt in my lifetime there will never be another movie experience like it.
The Silmarillion might be made into a movie sooooooo...
Just letting you know, you and a couple other LotR RUclipsrs has helped reignite my love of the franchise. Hoping in the after times to be able to afford EVERYTHING, books and movies. Thank you!
Great review Matt, you've really hyped me up, I can't wait for my copy to arrive! :) Btw, is that the LOTR chess set in the bottom right?
Haha. Nope! It is actually the LOTR Little People set. Haha. I got it for my daughter but haven’t gotten them out yet. 😂
No forget the chess...what on middle earth is the Guinness world record certificate for ? Tell me...
Don't worrie everyone he told me...and it's now my secret and I shall keep it to myself till it passes out of all memory and becomes myth...mine I tell you...MINE!!!! MWHAHHAHA*cough*hahahaa
Hey yo what’s up GeekZone 🤙
Geekzone!!! i knew a wizard was never late just arrives precisley when he means too
3:20 "7/7 King Crowns, 5/5 Wizard Rods" LOL i like that a lot
Some of the greatest movies ever.. I CANT WAIT TO OWN THESE
Amen to that! :)
Ive been feeling down lately but somehow your enthusiasm in this video made me happy. Thank you
Glad I could bring some fun to you day. Stay strong, my friend!
Just ordered the gift set for my little sister for Christmas ....
Okay it’s also for me
5:31 Nerd of the Rings: Reminds us - during a video about _Lord of the Rings,_ on a channel dedicated to _Lord of the Rings_ - that he is, in fact, a _Lord of the Rings_ superfan.
Nice to hear that they fixed up the sound mix. I’ve always found the Blu-ray edition to be kind of “mumbly”. I have a 4K TV, but no 4K player… guess I’ll have to get one!
LOTR is ALREADY sold out. 🙄
They not selling in stores apparently no option for pickup, so probably low volume distribution issues.
I just got one from bestbuy.com when I saw Amazon was out. Like an hour ago (8pm mountain time, 11/30/2020)
i just got one now from target. order was accepted anyway, i have yet to pick it up though
Yep also went up from £75 to £120 also it isn't that quick because theres pre orders
Anyone in Australia hunting a copy? I just grabbed one from sanity.com.au online. A couple of stores have click and collect so check first to save postage
That image of the old school VHS copy of LOTR.. That was me, i watched it on that and it blows my mind to now be sitting here in the year 2021 and be watching it in unreal 4k resolution. Perfect review as always
It's great to see the face behind the narrations.
Greetings from Australia.
Time to watch lord of the rings... Again... for like the 7th time
7th? Noob
@@RodolfoVladimirBeltranMallea I knew someone would say it XD
*THAT STILL ONLY COUNTS AS ONE*
Hahaha, I lost track of how many times I've seen it. But still give me thrills every single time!
@@whitemoses7913 yeah man they are great films. And the behind the scenes stuff is just as good
I’m gonna need a bigger shelf.
Never seen LOTR only saw hobbit and played the games. But jumping into this set to see for first time.
You‘re in for treat my friend:)
I want to see them for the first time again!
Hobbit is terrible compared to lord of the rings trilogy.
Oh my lord! buckle up my friend, it’s going to be epic
LOTR is sooooo much better than The Hobbit Trilogy.
I'll be waiting for the ultimate collector's edition to see what it comes with and the packaging. I feel like my Blu-rays will suffice until then.
Sold out everywhere in the UK too, crazy, managed to get one though. Hearing that on a technical level these are some of if not the best 4k remasters done, with completely regraded colour for hdr and a full dolby atmos sound rework. Cant wait to watch these badboys!
Actually disappointed with my set. There DNR and artificial sharpening all through the set. Actually this film is the most processed looking film since the The dark knight blu Ray. Detail is improved yes in close ups, but overall imagine looks like a TV broadcast of the film with the processed look of it.
Ya unfortunately for me, while the green tint is gone, the PQ isn't better imo. The HDR is bad too, barely noticeable. The Balrog scene should have been amazing, and it was not bright at all. Also the atmos mix is terrible for the center channel, while the reviewer didn't have this problem, I constantly had to adjust my volumes.
@@jackburton2946 that's what I was afraid of when I saw the video of Peter Jackson saying the primary reason he wanted to update them to 4k was that he wanted the Lord of the Rings movies to match the look of the Hobbit films. I dont like the look of the Hobbit films, too "TV processed" like you said
@@jorox34 I loved the HFR version of the Hobbit in the cinema. I'd love to see LOTR looking like that, unfortunately it can't be done. The Hobbit HFR vs standard is like a window to another reality vs just a movie for me. It was so visually stunning that it made up for the terrible content quite successfully.
Just watched them in 4K all I’m going to say is I’m just glad we’re in the right time where 4K is now becoming standard.
It’s pretty amazing! Glad to hear I was accurate in my assessment. 😁
@@NerdoftheRings Your review was awesome! Thank you! Ever since my friend introduced me to The lord of the rings when I was younger I love them!
Sadly it's not a 4k rescanning. Plenty of analysis explaining this, 2k upscaled with DNR
One thing that worried me from purchasing this is the egregious amount of DNR they used in this release
They wiped out so many details that you wouldn't even believe. Things like erasing the top of Gandalf's staff, smoothing everything so it looks like the first Tomb Raider and oversharpening the edges until they develop a strong white edge around them. It's a scam really.
I work in the film industry in Wellington, New Zealand and I thought I'd just mention that you were not correct when you said that Weta was involved in this restoration project. I don't believe they were involved. The two companies that it would make more sense to be behind it are Wingnut, Peter's production company, and Park Road Post, the local post production house that is wall-to-wall with cutting edge tech.
EDIT: I just checked with a colleague. It was definitely Park Road Post that did the 4k UHD work.
Ah, thank you for pointing that out. I had read an article where they listed WETA as well, but I guess they must have been mistaken. Thanks for lending your expertise to keep me on the level!
@@NerdoftheRings FWIW, I'm used to youtubers getting way more things wrong than you did here. Don't even get me started about the misconceptions around the Avatar sequels. So, thanks for being comparatively well informed!
need to watch the making off again. it blew my mind that balrog sound came from grinding stone.
Completely overlooking the HDR aspect. That's an even bigger deal than 4k.
It's really not though... Going from HD or 2k to 4k is more significant than HDR.
HDR and wide colour gamut are just gimmicks
@@ArnoldTohtFan well the gimmicks look great on my tv, maybe yours isn't setup right?
HDR is great - but for the rest of us using SDR monitors or TV we get washed out colour. Sucks.
@@oo0Spyder0oo we've been able to manipulate the colour palette of our films for decades. I don't see how HDR or wide colour gamut are any different.
Could you, please, post a link to the source of the “restoration done in 4K”?
Curious to know your thoughts on the DNR and EE.
Could you, also, point to time stamps where you noticed more detail in this release?
As someone who's a massive fan of the incredible and often groundbreaking digital and practical effects in these movies, of the incredible locations and sets, the intricately detailed costumes and props, this is a must buy for me. I don't know how many times I watched the special features on the DVDs just because I was so enamored with everything that went into making these incredible films. Seeing the work that the incredible artists at WETA put into these movies in 4k is going to be a real treat.
I preordered mine a few weeks ago. Super excited.
I don't understand those who prefer a theatrical version to an extended version. I mean there are so many great moments in the extended version that after watching it, watching a theatrical version feels like you miss so much, and it's true. The moment when Gandalf speaks the black language in the Elven house, it's such a powerful moment.
Its because extended is too long, theatrical is more concise and each scene has importance. Extended is great from time to time though.
@@walkdeep I've watched a theatrical version a few times, but I still prefer an extended version. For me it's not even an extended version, it's a proper version. When I was watching a theatrical version, somehow it felt like something was missing. I wouldn't mind if an extended version was even longer. Go figure. That's how different we all are :-))).
The scene where Saruman dies, the scenes with Boromir in Two Towers, and The mouth of Sauron should have been in theatrical. Everything else drags and is super overindulgent imo. 4.5 hours is just ridiculous lol
@@ProtestantsRUs i agree. Those are scenes that would work well with theatrical.
@@ProtestantsRUs Yet I love every minute of it :-))).
Good video BUT i would say that you stating that you were NOT going to get them and wait for the Collectors edition put this in a strange sort of position for me. You say you were going to wait but you love these....but you also got them sent to you for free. So getting stating you were going to wait, put a bit of a confusion to this review
Just helped to emphasise his excitement. He was going to wait, got these earlier than he expected and was oh so happy he didn't have to wait another six months.
If you want LOTR to look like the Hobbit, it’s for you. Because it’s not LOTR in 4K. There is a lot of bad Digital Noise Reduction. They removed the grain from the CGI ( back in the days they added it to make it looked like it belonged in the movie) and they changed the grading of the whole pictures. It looks like the Hobbit. And it’s not a compliment. The job was rushed for Xmas, wait for the summer release to see if they improved things after le backlash they received.
Edit: I forgot to talk about the audio. It’s mostly good but some sounds are missing from some scenes. Such as the end of the fight between Saruman and Gandalf.
This goes against the information I have read elsewhere. Elsewhere it's reported that this is *not* a new scan, but rather a remastered and upscaled version of the 2k prints (same as used for the old blu-ray). And the DNR used is pretty awful. And the box set doesn't include the appendices, for that matter.
1:48 bro when you started listed these really made me smile. Had VHS of the fellowship as a kid. Then we got the extended versions on DVD. That VHS tho was replayed about a million times!
Great review!
I wish it had the special features. I loved watching those when I was younger. May I ask for what accomplishment you got a Guinness World Record?
Haha! Good eye! I got it for throwing 2,633 baseball pitches in 8 hours. It was the main even of a fundraiser when my wife and I were saving up to adopt our daughter. 😊
@@NerdoftheRings that just sounds so long. 8 hours...but that is a great reason for a fundraiser, I have never heard of people fundraising for an adoption. Btw thank you for the videos, really enjoying them, might get me back into my own nerdiness of the rings.
I love you mentioned the VHS cause I literally bought a TV with a built-in VHS player when Fellowship first came out on home video lol
4:52 Middle-Earth Ultimate Collectors’ Edition
Summer 2021
Middle-Earth Extra Ultimate Collectors’ Edition
Summer 2022
Middle-Earth Really Ultimate Collectors’ Edition
Summer 2023
Middle-Earth Honestly Ultimate We Really Mean It This Time Collectors’ Edition
Summer 2024
And I'll buy each set
😂😂😂
Can’t wait!!! I saw these when I was a child (VHS!!!). My brother brought home the fellowship and we had a family movie night. I’ll never forget that experience ❤️.
the extended editions are the real trilogy. The amount of added content is insane
90% of the extended îs not needed
@@mihaimercenarul7467 define "not needed". I am a Tolkien fan since the 80s so my needs may differ compared to yours :)
The extended editions add content for the purists. For the rest it might even be boring sure.
@@mihaimercenarul7467lol the movie itself is not "needed" if you go that way
not really, there are a couple of good scenes in the extended edition that shouldn't be removed like faramir's flashback with boromir, or saruman's deatj, but many others don't really bring much nor change the story of the threatrical version. Fellowship of the ring brough many unnecessary scenes in the extended edition@@badtothebone93
So glad I bought both of these, not gonna lie, Smaug's voice coming through on surround sound gave me shivers.
Holy cow. Has it been 20 years already? I was really only 15 when this movie came out?
you are baby
I was 12 when the first LOTR and first HP film game out in 2001 and I preferred HP due to them being kids in it and as an adult at 31 now I appreciate LOTR more than HP as it’s a more mature story than HP but I still like HP a lot but I d love to see more LOTR films , that new TV show could be a start as long as it’s not tuned by wokeness.
Omg I am sooo excited for this!! Thanks for the review Matt!! ❤️❤️❤️
Didn't Peter Jackson say he had a whole bunch of extra scenes. One of the scenes was supposedly Treebeard and Legolas having a conversation. And on the DVD commentary he said that if there is ever a special edition to be released again that he would try to add those scenes back. It was something like another few hours of footage. I hope they do that.
Damn, I sure hope that’s the case!
What a fantastic review! You brought the experience you had to life for the viewers of your review - something very difficult to do. But now... I still don’t know which to purchase given that I may not have time to watch the 4K version before the ultimate collection comes out. Either way - very well done.
I want a 4K tv and player just for this!!!!
Im getting ps5 this year and a 4k tv next year so im just gonna wait.
Do your research. Def don't go for most cheapest. Also Play Station may be good but cheaper true 4K players may be better for output. So all count. I'd recommend 4K Sony Bravia 950, the Samsung Q90 or the LG CX9 OLED 65" 2020 models all now priced very well 1000$ below 1-2 yrs ago upon their release. The 2020 models all have better processing chips and dedicated audio outputs and new 2.1 HDMI ports to get better quality. Don't worry for sale discounts cause they will be priced same all yr just maybe 100$ up with no sales. And now tv makers are not making new technology for years as these suffice. 8K is useless to the eye since also disk only outputs 4K true HD. These LOTR are remastered not 4K with up scaling but true 4K HD. Wish they did Dolby Vision cause its just an extra boost in video quality. At least they did Atmos sound which is huge difference.
I'm so glad they didn't do that stupid "cardboard book" packaging that many companies have been doing lately. Those risk scratching the discs every time you slide them out/in (which is why I take the discs out and store them separately in proper protective cases) so it's really nice that this has actual PROPER packaging that protects the discs and houses them well.
It sounds great definitely, but for me it’s too expensive, hopefully I get it for Christmas :)
If not then I guess I’ll wait a bit until it’s cheaper
How much is it?
I believe each set is currently listed at $90 USD.
@@NerdoftheRings thanks for the reply. Have a good day!
@@NerdoftheRings thats around €80
@@paulmartin6209 cheers for the question.
I’ve commented on your videos before, but want to say it again. Thanks for putting in the work on these videos, you and the content you create are awesome.
Thanks so much, my friend! I appreciate it!
This is wrong, the film wasn't rescanned in 4k, they just upscaled it
Exactly.. its just an upscaled version of the blu ray set and some color correction applied to fix the mistake from the blu ray set of fellowship… (should have been a recall)..hard pass until the studio releases a true definitive 4k version.. till then am happy to watch the blu ray set.. also no DNR on the blu ray set..
Wow, I feel old. I was in the second grade when The Fellowship hit the big screen, and remember my buddies from my sixth grade class, and I all going to see the Return of the King. Hard to believe this is almost twenty years ago.
You mentioning you were in second grade when Fellowship came out just made me feel old. haha!
@@NerdoftheRings Haha I hear you. I appreciate your channel. I'm a diehard Tolkien junkie and enjoy the lore.
even tho i learn towards the original formats
i dont really think this is a mindless gimmick like the bluray versions... jackson worked on these himself in the editing room
I'm seeing the 4k versions in cinema for a 20th anniversary marathon this weekend!!! I was only a baby when the films came out, so this is my first time seeing it on the big screen. So excited!!!!
Me: "Shut up and take my..."
Out of nowhere, a hand swipes the cash from my grasp.
Warner Bros: "That's the whole point sucker." Whistling as they count the dough in their greedy hands.
But seriously, I think I'll give it a buy one of these days.
Can't wait to see Legolas and Gimli's rivalry, like *"Shall I describe it to you? Or would you like me to find you a box?"* in 4K xD
Or cry when Aragorn says *_"My friend, you bow to no one"_*
Yeah, I'm so buying this.
I personally don’t feel like buying the 4K releases until *a)* I have a player and TV that are capable of displaying the HDR in its full glory, and *b)* they include the Appendices and all other special features on a future release or do a separate release of the those special features.
So by the time The Silmarilion comes out, the quality will be Epic. I want to see Huan the faithful Hound🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲
Tevilo Master of Catssssss!!!
The curse if Nims gold and the betrayal of the Nauglafring!
Turin's curse!
The love of Beren & Luthien!
Ungweliant and her suckling of the great trees from Valinor!
The Music of the Ainur!
None of these will ever translate as well to screen as Peter's trilogy. The only movies that actually compliment the books instead of standing in their shadow. Kids are too dumb these days and it would be bad financially to rely too heavily on the audience's intelligence these days- especially with the Teacher's Union purposely ruining a generation of minds for political & personal reasons. #Sad
Silmarilion will be out on 2078g, so it is close my friend
Glad to see another Huan fan! 🐺
Man it's been 20 years lol These movies are ageless. Can't wait for 4K hope they did real good job on them. Finally 4K for LOTR. I can't even say how many times I've watched these over 20 yrs. Extended Editions all the way.
The extended version made me realize that Boromir wasn't all that bad. He sincerely cared for Gondor and the Hobbits.
Was actually hoping for a video to go over the more advanced aspect of the restoration process. Definitely get surround sound even if it's just a simple setup system, these may be the best movies ever for it.
This damn 4k movie made me buy a 75" 4K tv, surround sound, and recliners...
Get a pair of surround speakers and 2 or 4 overhead atmost speakers. You can upgrade in phases if needed to get decent quality speakers. Once you have a full atmos system, you will be find the sound is much more enveloping with great use of surround and overhead effects.
Can't wait to get the releases next year!
I'm just sad that none of the newer releases (including the 2021 Collector's Edition) doesn't come with the Appendecies like the first DVD/Blu-Ray sets had.
Literally counting the seconds until I have this in me hands tmw morning!!
I watched reviews where people literally SHAT on this version the entire review so I was hesitant to spend the $80 but DAMN have I been missing out by waiting. This is BY FAR the best 4k version of any "older" movie I've seen in 4k. WOWIE WOW WOW!!!
That Fellowship VHS that I had 🤣
Me too lol
Thanks for such an honest review Matt. Much appreciated. It was really nice of WB to send you the review editions. Bet you haven't stopped smiling yet! I won't be getting a 4K TV & player until after Christmas & haven't yet decided whether to get this edition or wait until summer 2021 (decisions, decisions ....).
It’s a tough decision for sure! Especially not knowing what the new bonus features will be. I don’t think I will stop smiling for a while - these films are going on repeat. 😁
I'm here to tell you that the audio absolutely smashes on a proper Atmos home theater setup.
Simply my favourite movies ever, they just totally draw me into a fantastical & effecting world, so happy I secured myself the steelbook versions of the Lord of the Rings and the Hobbit, they are simply gorgeous editions, & yes I can confirm the image is beautiful all the tiny details and the colours over previous versions, proves just how much went into creating these movies & now perceivable like never before.... just WoW, & the sound in Dolby Atmos is truly astounding, enveloped by sound like the rain falling from above & the klang of swords clashing, I could go on.... just perfect, full kudos to Peter Jackson et al for putting in such a wonderful loving effort, completely & wholeheartedly agree with your review, fans are in for real a treat 😊
Just pre ordered it! I also just bought a 4K tv
That’s awesome! Enjoy! Let me know what you think of it when you watch it. I love hearing people’s thoughts on things like this!
@@NerdoftheRings will do!!
Thanks for this. I reckon I'll suffer with my blu-ray another 6 months for the collector's edition, but now i know beyond a doubt that i will be making the upgrade.
That’s a great shirt, mate🤙🏽
OH MY GOD! I was waiting for this for so long! and i see it just now! Maybe because unfortunately here in Italy i didn't have any news about this, and these seems to be available only in the English version i guess! My god i can't wait to be able to see those! Do you have any informations about International versions? And more importantly, as i just can't wait for the collectors edition, will they make an international edition too? I hope... This is outstanding!!
Just found out your channel and i love it so much! New subscriber and fan here! ahah
IM SO HYPED
The Collector's Edition will feature the long-lost library scene.
Which scene is that?
I unfortunately don't own a 4k player so I bought the 20th anniversary blueray remasters which I heard are really good in terms of quality so I'm looking forward to watching them that way. Love the review for this and the hobbit trilogy by the way I enjoyed how in depth you go with what you say. Keep up the good work my friend
I don't even own normal TV let alone 4k one. I watch everything on my 1080p PC monitor. :(
Then you will have to stick with Bluray or DVD. Tho they should release that remastered footage in 1080p on Bluray too..just so issies like green tint are gone plus itbwould make it look crisp aswell
You at least have that, I can only watch on the phone with max 720p.. well I can only dream for LOTR :(
I’m definitely waiting for the ultimate collector’s edition. I love these movies, but I love special features just as much. Great review!
Where can I buy the shirt he is wearing? I looked at his store and didn't see it
What are your thoughts on them stripping the film grain and the digital noise reduction?
Too bad I don't even have a 4K TV or Blu-ray disc player. Maybe it's time to get one for this!
You should. The Panasonic 820 was $349 not long ago. It may drop again for Christmas. It has Dolby Vision and HDR10+ support.
@@dan_hitchman007 Oh alright, I'll be looking out for one. Thank you for the information.
You made me want to find my old VHS copy of Fellowship! Can't wait to see what the collectors edition includes
I have LotR extended trilogy on DVD (I even sent away for the special slipcover that holds all of the movies) and the blu-ray set. I really am looking forward to getting the whole set on 4K and it will likely drive my equipment purchases in the near future. Like getting a better TV, for one, and _maybe_ upgrading to an Atmos system from my present Dolby PLIIx 7.1 system. I'm a little curious why they would put out just the movies now instead of waiting to have all of the bonus material together with them, too. Well, we all know the answer is MONEY, but I'm just wondering what their release plan is. Is the full package going to cost _that_ much more that offering a set that has _just_ each trilogy will appeal to some people who otherwise wouldn't get the full bonus material edition? Maybe thinking that they can just watch their old sets with their bonus material. But, wait! They said that there will be "new and never seen before material" in the new collection! So, I don't know how I feel about the whole situation and, frankly, myself. :/
So, they put out the movies only edition to coincide with the holidays, of course. But, I'm going to wait to get the collector's edition when it comes out. Am I playing right into their money grubbing hands, here? And what happens after this? Will there be yet another "super duper deluxe combined WITH NEVER BEFORE SEEN MATERIAL" edition a few years from now? I don't know. I really like these films. (Well, mostly LotRs, but, to quote from another fantasy tale, that is another story...) But I just hate to feel like I'm being used as a money tree. :/
Anyway, so, yes, definitely upgrade to at least 5.1 surround sound. Yeah, soundbars are getting pretty good these days, but it's amazing what a subwoofer, center and surround channels can do. Especially when there's more than one or two people watching (and spread around a room), nothing beats discrete (separate) channels of sound.
There is the strange sensuality to the original 35 mm projection, I don’t quite understand why people need the image to be so damnsharp at 4K