He should have been more dignified in defeat at Gettysburg and surrendered his Army then. Instead of sending thousands of men to their deaths for a lost course. What you people see in this guy as a leader, beggars belief!
Little does anyone it's not the original house. All of Grant's generals stole the furniture inside where the surrender took place and the house was demolished to rebuild it as a war memorial near Washingtom. However all of the pieces were lost over time.
@@matthewcreech8259 the original house was disassembled and the plan was to reassemble at the Chicago Worlds Fair. The was never done and the original house was left in a pile.
HAHAHA Why desecrate it? This is where the TRAITOR LEE surrendered. If anyone would desecrate it, it would be FOOLS that can't admit LEE and the SOUTH LOST Just like the Orange cockroach LOST
I was a reenactor once and when we did the surrender of Appomatox, i saw grown men crying as they 'pretended' to lay down their arms and flags. Even today, emotion runs high at those things.
Lee caused the whole damned war. There’s a lot of blood in his hands. I submit that if Lee had not joined the south then the war might not have taken place or lasted nearly as long.
The only accounts that I have ever heard of the surrender say that the Union soldiers removed their hats as Lee passed. I believe that Lee was truly respected.
@@taternater7495 It's too bad Lee wouldn't have given those Union soldiers a lick of spit. General Lee was not worth any respect. He shit on Grant and massacred prisoners of war. Lee had no honor and deserved to be hanged for crimes against humanity.
@@chaosXP3RT well i don’t think the union boys were too nice to captured confederates either. if you knew the things that Lee accomplished and the military strategy he used and is still being used to this day, you’d piss your pants if you saw him in real life
@@mdcclxxxi8509 The irony is, that while many point to Andersonville as being an example of horrible treatment of prisoners of war, honestly it was on par with what the Union was also doing at their own prison camps.
@@TheMrPeteChannel @Humberto Flores apparently, the reason was because he married a slave owner and ended up owning one slave. It should be noted that Grant happily freed his slave in 1859 and was the one of the most successful generals in the war against the slave-holding traitors, although the protesters in SF seem to be ignorant to these facts
I was there, my first day on set. As a member of Company C, 7th Illinois Cavalry. Filmed near Natchez, MS, said to be the same local where the John Wayne movie, HORSE SOLDIERS, was filmed. The house is a facade. The scene is from the TV miniseries, NORTH SOUTH II. I am the bearded close up waving as General Grant arrives. Our re-enactment commander is riding a white Arab and follows Grant up the steps. Those were the days, a line I oft steal from another old cavalry flick.
I have been to this place many times. You can still feel the emotions in the very ground, and in the air. I grew up in Lynchburg Va, about 23 miles away. Lynchburg was where Lee was trying to get, because we were a supply and hospital town, but they were cut off at Appomattox. Had Lee made it to Lynchburg, the war probably would have lingered on longer. This place in Appomattox Va is hallowed ground.
Because, Lincoln and Grant discussed this day. Lincoln instructed Grant that there would be no revenge. Grant, takes pen to paper and writes, "...your men may return to their homes where they will remain, undisturbed, unless they take up arms agains the US again..." This simple sentence gave the ALL amnesty. The terrible civil war was over and it was time to reunite and heal. Brilliant.
@KoiBoi 1113 they were treasonous criminals and the high command should have been held to account..Bin Laden was murdered so he could not give evidence against the USA, he was unarmed when the seals executed him without trial
General Lee and General Grant showed more respect and honor towards each other than Union and Confederate supporters do nowadays when just discussing the war. Those guys tried to kill each other and yet still behaved civil now each side attacks the other just for wanting to remember and honor their ancestors that fought.
Custer almost bought it at Appomattox - during the truce, he rode by himself up to Longstreet's lines and ordered the Army to surrender. Longstreet basically told him to either piss off or be shot and then turned to an aid and ordered another division brought forward. Longstreet was bluffing but Custer didn't know this and he apparently galloped back to Union lines as quickly as possible
Fun Fact: The house belonged to a retired Major in the Virginia Militia, and at the time a sugar broker and wholesale grocer, Wilmer McLean. Ironically, the First Battle of “Bull Run” (First Battle of Manassas, July 21, 1861) took place on the grounds of Mr. McLean’s *former* home; Yorkshire Plantation in Manassas, Prince William County, VA. The poor guy just couldn’t get away from the war. 🤦♀️
There truly couldn't have been a better way for the war to have been concluded. It speaks well of General Grant to show the Army of Northern Virginia such compassion and mercy by allowing General Lee and his Brave and Valiant troops to finally surrender with honor and dignity. Once the terms of surrender were met, Lee and his men were free to go home and live the rest of their lives in peace, safety and comfort as all Americans should. The Civil War truly was the Greatest war of our times, the Generals who led us in battle, both the North and South were the greatest Generals of our time and the Soldiers who fought all it's battles and endured all it's hardships were the greatest Soldiers of our time.
It's a pity that many of those "brave and valiant troops" didn't extend that same level of compassion and mercy to their black neighbours and political opposites when they got back home, and instead chose to murder many innocent and defenceless American men and women, as if the war never ended. These men were clearly undeserving of the mercy Grant showed them and proved as much by how they conducted themselves during the reconstruction era and the values they chose to install in their children.
I think Robert E Lee was a brave soldier and capable General. He underestimated the defences in Gettysburg which was his downfall. Even then he managed to cross the river and retreated with what was left of his army after defeat partly to do with George Mead being too cautious and doesn't want to fall into trap.
I think Lee was a blundering old fool and a butcher! After being advised not to fight at Gettysburg, he not only went on to lose the Battle but prolonged the war by a further two years. Then lost again. There were much better and capable Generals in the Confederate Army. I am not an American.
HISTORIAN Stephen Sears would disagree with the second part of your segment sir ....yet it is good to see so many comments on this awful struggle ..lest we forget......
That was Lee's reputation, so General Meade did want to turn a victory into a defeat. Also, a large number of units force marched into Gettysburg on a very hot and humid day, fought, and were severally depleted in Men and Ammunition as well as other provisions.... So to engage General Lee's Army could have easily been a victory for the Army of Southern Virginia!
Lee ( the south) didn't have a chance. Once an aggressive commander to over the union army and made a plan to attack at all fronts - it was over. The north had cowards and non fighters before Grant came along.
Interesting that the surrender papers Lee signed were drawn up by Grant's aid General Elly Parker of New York, who just happened to be a full blooded Seneca Sachem.
@@SantomPh Lee massacred black POW's and sent them back to slavery. He refused to exchange them in prisoner exchanges because "the white soldier is not worth useless property"
As Lee prepared to surrender, his main support team said, " we are ready to turn this into guerilla warfare, to continue this fight. We'll do what ever you want General". Lee said, "let's not do that men. It's time to lay down our arms". That's the depth of this man, who was torn by this war, and it showed on his face. One of my kin married his first cousin, Anne Harriotte Lee, way back, and I read everything I could find about him as I grew up. Another of my kin, Lt. Charles Mallory Harper from Georgia, in his memoirs stated how his men gave Lee the Rebel yell as he trotted past them on Traveler, following this surrender. Then they ate cracked corn the Union soldiers horses missed, and it was the fist thing they had to eat in days. Desperate times for sure.
At a low point during the Revolution, George Washington considered converting the Continental Army into a guerrilla force and taking to the hills. He didn't do it b/c he knew civilians would suffer the most in such a war.
I think Lee understood something else: Guerilla war would have literally been pointless. Was the confederacy going to re-emerge from a guerilla fight? No. Was slavery going to be restored? Certainly not. Not after that much blood. Even northerners indifferent to slavery wouldn't sign up for that for any reason. So, literally, what was the point other than to provoke an even harsher reconstruction than the one they actually got? Guerilla war would have been the equivalent of the spite check in chess, but much more harmful. A lot of soldiers in the south had, by then, lost the plot. It would never have achieved any political aim they had any interest in.
Yes, I would have taken my hat off in salute to that great man. Though I'm for the Union, General Lee was a true patriot for his state of Virginia. We must remember that before the Civil War there were no Americans but citizens of the several states. You belonged to your state, not to the federal government. The Civil War changed things around to where today we are Americans and states are secondary. That's why I hate to see how history is being revised.
It depends on what state you were in and where you came from. Places like Massachusetts and Pennsylvania already felt like parts of a greater union while others like Texas and Virginia felt like their own place. The Northern armies also had huge numbers of new immigrants from Europe, which did not easily identify with any state but the idea of "America".
That is literally nonsense. You might have said such a thing during the period of the Articles of Confederation. But, those failed. The US Constitution specifically gave the Federal government a lot of power, including the supremacy clause. The practical necessity of Federal supremacy and therefore a Federal Government was not lost on the observant. It is undoubtedly true that a lot more people identified with their state in those days than today, but the war itself did a lot to undermine that, particularly in the north. Jefferson might be regarded as someone akin to your way of thinking, but Hamilton thought in national terms and that struggle began log before the Civil War and was part of the politics from the day the constitution was ratified.
What may be lost in American history is that General Lee was the very first General to be offered the Supreme leadership of the Union Army in 1861 by President Lincoln but he refused and resigned his federal military commission because he did not want to fight against his native Virginia...His ancestrial mansion home...Arlington House...was later confiscated by the Union which eventually became the immortal and hallowed Arlington National Cemetery which is now the eternal resting place to American sons and daughters of both the North and South who have fought in American wars since then...
according to trump, the fallen were losers, yet looking at the polls the south is prepared to pee on the graves of the fallen and vote for a draft dodging disrespectful fool..Strange really, there is no true patriotism in the Southern States even today
Jim LaGuardia, I think he was sick during the battle, and some Generals of his staff did not follow his orders, do not blame Lee for Gettysburg. However, it was very interesting that he won more battles in defensive position than attacking to the Union.
Even as a Northerner (Pennsylvania) I can't help but wonder what was going through Lee's mind as he rode into the house. Probably wondering if he's doing the right thing or if victory was still possible. Add feeling he let Virginia down too.
A North Carolinian here. Lee knew the war was substantially lost at Gettysburg. The South could never overcome the capacity of the Union especially with the Naval blockade of Southern ports. This is why Lee gambled. A war of attrition was never in favor of the Confederacy. I recommend some of Shelby Foote's interviews. We Southerners new a lot more was lost than the war and the end of slavery. We have the giant leviathan of the Federal government reaching into every aspect of our lives and perpetually widdling away our freedom as a result of the Union winning the war. I think sacrifice of his men and the loss of his country was on his mind that day. The war was likely inevitable when slavery was not abolished in some way with ratification of the Constitution. In that time and still to this day in a minor way, Northerners can not comprehend our devotion to our land and family being superior to devotion of country.
The son of Revolutionary War Hero, and George Washington's closest friend, Richard Henry Lee III, aka, Lighthorse Harry Lee. One of the top graduates of the new U.S. Military Academy at West Point, Class of 1820. Mexican War hero and one of the top aides on General in Chief Scott's staff. The man who captured John Brown at Harper's Ferry who was himself leading an insurrection. The man who was considered the finest soldier in the pre war army and who both Lincoln and General Winfield Scott wanted to lead the Union armies. A first son of Virginia, having to go and accept terms from General Grant. It truly had to kill him inside to do this.
The war had gotten to a point where things were beginning to get ridiculous. I think the thing that was going through Lee's mind was "Let's get this over with and move on."
I think he had an idea it was ending soon, but didn't want to admit it to himself. He didn't want to think that he'd lost. He didn't want to admit Grant was a bigger general than he was. A better one. And. If you look at a picture of Grant, you'd see him in that picture with that bottle of whiskey in his hand, Lee? I don't think so. According to that picture of Lee we all see, he doesn't have a single thing: Cigar. Whiskey bottle. Anything.
‘You’re mistaken, sir,’ he said. ‘You may forgive us, but we won’t be forgiven. There is a rancor in our hearts which you little dream of. We hate you, sir.’“ CSA Gen. Wise
Grant was a solid intelligent strategist with good common sense and knew how to use his assets to gain victory. However, as a student of history the generals I’m most impressed with are Napoleon and Genghis Khan. Genghis Khan wasn’t just a marauding barbarian. His tactics were such that even today’s generals could learn from. Absolutely a genius strategist and tactician and knew how to pick the best subordinate generals as well. If you study his battle tactics I promise you would be thoroughly impressed. And everyone knows about Napoleon so I don’t need to go into detail about him.
@@iwritechecksatthegrocerystore The reason why you think that is because you yourself haven’t studied Genghis Khan in the slightest. His feigned retreats is only one example. Do some research before criticizing.
Excellent re-enactment of Gen. Lee's honorable surrender. It was a time when gentlemen led armies and fought hard but with honor. While Gen. Lee's surrender effectively ended the war, other Confederate armies were still in the field and yet to surrender. At least one Reb general, Jo Shelby's Iron Brigade of Missouri, never did surrender and instead took his brigade to Mexico, though that didn't end well.
Lee was a gentleman. However, he took an oath of the parade ground at West Point. The same is taken today. Lee was a tailor to that oath. He was lucky to have lived back then when Grant took the long view.
Dignified and Honorable always. Brought tears to my eyes, such a gentleman, under the circumstances of Appamattox. God go with him always and may he RIP.
The reality was there really wasn t much to celebrate. The country at that point had SO much healing to do just to survive. I am GLAD I WAS NOT THERE...but what an amazing moment in history. The whole tumultuous country...for moment...froze and heald it s breath...unable to breathe in the presence of such an overwhelmingly Enormous historical action. WOW!!!!
To take down the monuments of Lee is to take down what forgiveness and reconciliation is about. It's to take down our history, and what it took to get to where we are today.
Every Black American who has had to walk within sight of those monuments on the public square has felt a chill -- just as was intended when they were erected. Crash 'em.
oK. Good. But, it's also used to erase history too. Think about it: A 5 year old kid asks who is General Lee, they'll think, or maybe not, think of the car, not the man.
To be clear: The white flag does not traditionally symbolize "surrender", as is often portrayed. Displaying a white flag is to call for a temporary truce, to allow army leaders to meet and establish either terms of surrender, a short cease fire, or to allow the removal of the dead and wounded from the field. Though there's no specific law (at the time this takes place) that prevents a person from shooting someone holding a white flag; to do so would have your own men kill you because you had dishonored the trust the enemy had put in you. What's more, it would also mean that should that enemy survive, and your own men raise a white flag, the enemy would likely ignore it.
It was a sign of respect they all had. I guess of love, although I'm not sure. However. He was a respected general. They had to thank him at some point. They probably knew he'd sign the surrender papers.
Gen Ely Parker was one of Grant’s chief of staff who wrote the terms of surrender that Gen Lee signed….he was a full blooded American Seneca Indian who was educated by my 3x grandfather in upstate New York….also saved Grants life once on a nighttime maneuver when riding into a Confederate camp, warning them to turn back
OTC, while his tactics were good (Gettysburg and a couple of other encounters excepted) and his grasp of the operational art excellent, his strategic sense was poor; neither of his two invasions of the North should have been undertaken. And as soon as Stonewall fell, his operational prowess fell off as well, since he was left with the likes of Longstreet and Early and Ewell adn Stuart, none of whom could be trusted for long with an independent command.
Lincoln wanted to quickly and peacefully bring the USA back together, Grant knew harsh terms and executions would only enrage the South and prolong reunification.
@@randomtraveler9854 Yep but the assassination of Lincoln changed everything and new president put some harsh term on the South as punishment for his murder and prolong reunification but less executions and Grant knew this but can't do anything.
@@iwritechecksatthegrocerystore Hanging the Southerner leaders would have just caused more hostilities. Reconstruction was about reconciliation, not punishment.
@@randomtraveler9854 I know what it was about. It was a mistake. I’m reminded of Ben Franklin, who famously stated, after signing the declaration: we must all hang together, or we I’ll most assuredly... hang separately. Also do you honestly think John Q reb would’ve given a shit about seeing Jeff Davis or Lee swing? The cruelty and inhumanity that the south would go on to perpetuate towards their fellow man, would have been stamped out had Johnson, or even the Grant administration had the gall to do so. In fact, I’d go so far as to say, had this insurrection, this traitorous movement, by a bunch of wealthy, racist, capitalist lying sons of bitches who stirred the pot to send 250,000 American boys to their deaths for the lie of “states rights” been punished instead of allowed to continue that myth: our country would be a better place today
At Appomattox, Lee told his men to "Fold the flag and put it away, or else it will be devisive." ✅️ He was right ! Lee also said, of civil war statues, "Best to not leave open the sores of war." 🎯
One story I've always liked about the surrender at Appomattox came after the surrender was finalized. Upon walking out Wilmer McLean's house, Gen. Lee happened to notice Ely Samuel Parker (born Hasanoanda, later known as Donehogawa) who was an aide to Gen. Grant and a member of the Seneca nation. After stopping, Gen. Lee commented '"I am glad to see one real American here." Ely Parker shook Lee's hand and replied "We are all Americans.'"
@@claymore806 They didn't live to 65. It sickens me to think of the Confederate Government not to accept reality. Lee, just like Jefferson sent these kids to their death. So did the congress who made these draft laws. Just like Nazi Germany
Grants terms were basically throw down your guns and go home. Lee asked that grant feed his soldiers cause they were starving. Grant granted it. There were no arrests or trials for treason although Lincolns assassination made president johnson and Secretary of war stanton want to recind the agreement. Grant refused.
This was, because the radicals in the Republican Party suspected Jeff Davis to be behind the assassination. He was not. None of the Confederate leaders had any idea about the plot, and none of them were celebrating when they heard about the assassination while on the run after being forced out of Richmond.
What this TV Series did to John Jakes' classic trilogy was a downright travesty. George Hazard following General Grant up the steps at Appomattox? Lol, Oh my.
One mishap - it was known the moment the surrender was made known, the Union troops cheered and roared; Grant ordered silence - as a measure of respect, the war was over and it was no longer us vs them, Americans once again; starting then was healing and reconstruction
FalconRS i think so. the CSA wouldve had to trade with the North anyway postwar, so humiliation would've been rather short-sighted political strategy and Lee, being a honourable soldier, would not have tolerated it towards Grant (unless the North had resorted to acts outside the Articles of War on a grotesque scale).
You spelled Court House wrong. It wasn't a courthouse as in a building. It was Appomattox Court House as in a town that was the county seat of government. That was common back in those days. I noticed a place in a northern state called Washington Court House designating the town where the county courthouse was.
I'm not sure this was accurate. Historical records say after the signing. Grant immediately departed for Washington while Lee stayed to begin the discharge process for his surrendered troops.
Ein entsetzlicher Moment für die ganze Welt! Respektiert wenigstens eure Helden, wenn ihr schon versucht die ganze Welt zu unterjochen! Meinen Respekt für die Konföderierten!
Lee once said, he would have never joined the Confederate Army if his beloved native Virginia were not on the Confederate Side. Funny the final Peace was signed in Virginia!
thats because all the talking was done the previous day. terms of surrender were arranged just down the street in a private home owned by Mr. Wilbur McLean
The fact that these union soldiers who fought against him had the respect to remove their caps speaks volumes. These douche's nowadays want to remove statues of this man, which boils my blood.
Blasphemy. As a southern man my blood is boiling watching this. Not due to my ancestors who died but in Spanish? _-_- that. Who whipped the shit out of General Santa Anna! I'm with @ David Bowling
You should go back and read up on your history.. Grant was ready to surrender until Lee invaded the north. If he had stayed south of the Mason Dixon line another 6-8 weeks . The surrender would have been completely opposite.
Reof Never said it did mate... Invading the north was a tactical era on Lees part. He was as tired of the war as anyone. Had the Confederate army stayed south the war would have turned out different.
Grant was never ready to surrender. He was frustrated during the Vicksburg campaign, took to the bottle again, and at one point even considered resigning his commission because he felt he was being thwarted by Union Army leadership because of his drinking.But Grant never considered surrendering because of enemy action.Lee should have never crossed the Mason Dixon line. He should have assumedcommand of the defense at Vicksburg realizing the threat Grant was to the CSAif he split it in two by seizing the town. At the very least, Lee should have dispatchedthe defensive genius, Longstreet, with his brigade and orders to assume commandof Vicksburg's defense.Lee lost sight of the true objective of the South which was that it should not have been trying todefeat the North on the battlefield. It just needed to prevent the North from defeating them.They should have fought like Washington did in the Revolution with the objective of preservingthe Army at all costs until the enemy put itself into a bad position that could be exploited in a brash sneak attack.
This scene misses a significant event of Native American history. When Grant and his staff enter the farmhouse BG Ely Parker, a full blooded Native American is not present. Parer is the man who drafted the terms of surrender. When Lee got up to leave, he shook BG Parker’s hand and said, “I’m glad there is at least one teal American here”.
....and the Seneca Indian Parker said : " We are ALL Americans here today, General Lee !!.....except the trannies, the commies, the thug gang members, the Islamic terrorists, and the Aztecs and Mayans who call themselves 'Latinos' !!! "
The Lee actor looks like Carl Ballentine, Lester Gruber in McHale's Navy, Anthony Zerbe doesn't look like Grant and his glue-on beard looks crappy. Plus, Grant wore a private's blouse with shoulder boards and muddy boots to Appomattox, but no production ever has the grit to show it that way. Looks like hell, in any language.
@@Mark-pp7jy It is he. He was in the 1968 movie and an episode of the tv version in 1990. My comment had to do with the atrocious make-up and hair. And if you imdb Carl Ballantine, you'll see what I meant. This clip was from North and South, Book II, Love and War, from 1986 when Schallert was 63.
Boots get muddy after a 20 mile ride you clown. This is inaccurate. Lee picked the place of surrender. He knew the family and he was there long before Grant. He took a bath and changed uniforms. You red necks are morons.
In reality, that act of surrender was not the end of American civil war. Fights continued in Texas until 26th of May, 1865. Like on the Pacific theater in ww2: Japanese surrender on 2nd of September, 1945, but last Japanese soldier really surrender in April, 1974. So, that is real end of ww2 and of American civil war. The historians really trick us with wrong facts.
it took them parts of 5 years with the greatest army ever assembled. almost 3 times the men, better weapons, plenty of food, winter uniforms, unlimited ammunition, etc. but the 'butcher' as his men called him(because he lost so many), finally got Lee to surrender. LONG LIVE DIXIE!!!
Don't understand why Black slaves were portrayed in the ending scene of this movie giving the fact that historically, there were no Blacks present of the surrender at Appoxmattox Courthouse..........................
That is a propaganda trick of winners of that war. They not doing that for the Blacks. They doing that for destroying of the CSA and all South. And they do that well. Even today!
Lee was dignified in defeat.
Grant was gracious in victory.
So sad Lee shit all over Grant. He was a man with no honor and a sore, pretentious loser
@@chaosXP3RT another Pathetic Nasty Mean and Arrogant Liberal no wonder your kind is hated so much
@@imbigtom.lifeisanamazingjo2602 did even grant order his men to stop cheering?
He should have been more dignified in defeat at Gettysburg and surrendered his Army then. Instead of sending thousands of men to their deaths for a lost course.
What you people see in this guy as a leader, beggars belief!
@@canon07 he did President Lincoln even ordered the band to play Dixie back in Washington.
I grew up 20 minutes from this house. They have preserved this area amazingly. Lets hope some ass clowns don't desecrate this spot for God's sake.
Little does anyone it's not the original house. All of Grant's generals stole the furniture inside where the surrender took place and the house was demolished to rebuild it as a war memorial near Washingtom. However all of the pieces were lost over time.
@@matthewcreech8259 the original house was disassembled and the plan was to reassemble at the Chicago Worlds Fair. The was never done and the original house was left in a pile.
Yeah put up a strip mall with a Chinese buffet and a video arcade.
Call it grant mall.
It’s a wonderful place to visit. A true treasure
HAHAHA Why desecrate it? This is where the TRAITOR LEE surrendered. If anyone would desecrate it, it would be FOOLS that can't admit LEE and the SOUTH LOST Just like the Orange cockroach LOST
The respect even the union troops had for Lee says it all about the man and the way Grant dealt with the surrender changed the course of history
he was the most respected man by both sides. He was a brilliant General. The union wanted him to be their General before the war kicked off.
@@andrewl6899 lol no he wasnt, Battle of Antietam
, thats why they flew the white flag
Ray Grenade Huh? I’m guessing you haven’t hit fifth grade history yet.
@@raygrenade1697 are you 5 years old? Ha ha
@@andrewl6899 he was brilliant he would've won
I was a reenactor once and when we did the surrender of Appomatox, i saw grown men crying as they 'pretended' to lay down their arms and flags. Even today, emotion runs high at those things.
@@JoezVendetta Completely stupid remark. Trumpies are idiots.
@@JoezVendettayou’ll always lose as long as there is good in this world People like the confederacy and you MAGA cultists will always lose
I know. I've been to the Texas re-enactment of the battle of San Jacinto.
That's pathetic, pining for the confederacy
@@DanBeech-ht7sw you got that wrong it was the emotion at realising the war had come to a end ..if you ever do any aciting you will ..act the part..
Davis was enraged when Lee surrendered but Lee knew the war was over and did it to save lives on both sides. He was a warrior and a gentleman.
Was President Davis one of the people that was advocating for a guerilla war and setting up a government in exile?
Lee caused the whole damned war. There’s a lot of blood in his hands. I submit that if Lee had not joined the south then the war might not have taken place or lasted nearly as long.
Wow I didn't know that.
He should have surrendered after Sailor's Creek. He lost most of his supply wagons and his rear guard was routed.
He fought for a vile cause, the cause of slavery and the goal to destroy our great Union. I give him no respect.
The only accounts that I have ever heard of the surrender say that the Union soldiers removed their hats as Lee passed. I believe that Lee was truly respected.
it doesn’t matter what side you were on, you respected Lee as a mastermind general and soldier
@@taternater7495 It's too bad Lee wouldn't have given those Union soldiers a lick of spit. General Lee was not worth any respect. He shit on Grant and massacred prisoners of war. Lee had no honor and deserved to be hanged for crimes against humanity.
@@chaosXP3RT well i don’t think the union boys were too nice to captured confederates either. if you knew the things that Lee accomplished and the military strategy he used and is still being used to this day, you’d piss your pants if you saw him in real life
@@chaosXP3RT You do realize the North stopped prisoner trades in 1863
@@mdcclxxxi8509 The irony is, that while many point to Andersonville as being an example of horrible treatment of prisoners of war, honestly it was on par with what the Union was also doing at their own prison camps.
Idiots in San Francisco just tore down Grant's Statue.
You shouldn’t call them idiots. They aren’t even smart enough to know what that means
Why they did that?? What Grant did to them??
@@humbertoflores2545 He helped free slaves so they tore him down I guess.
@@Anonymoususer44569 ha ha.
@@TheMrPeteChannel @Humberto Flores apparently, the reason was because he married a slave owner and ended up owning one slave. It should be noted that Grant happily freed his slave in 1859 and was the one of the most successful generals in the war against the slave-holding traitors, although the protesters in SF seem to be ignorant to these facts
I was there, my first day on set. As a member of Company C, 7th Illinois Cavalry. Filmed near Natchez, MS, said to be the same local where the John Wayne movie, HORSE SOLDIERS, was filmed. The house is a facade. The scene is from the TV miniseries, NORTH SOUTH II. I am the bearded close up waving as General Grant arrives. Our re-enactment commander is riding a white Arab and follows Grant up the steps. Those were the days, a line I oft steal from another old cavalry flick.
OK. Thanks for the info.
Nobody gives a flying fuk. Suck it! Merca!
I have been to this place many times. You can still feel the emotions
in the very ground, and in the air. I grew up in Lynchburg Va, about
23 miles away. Lynchburg was where Lee was trying to get, because
we were a supply and hospital town, but they were cut off at Appomattox. Had Lee made it to Lynchburg, the war probably would have lingered on longer. This place in Appomattox Va is hallowed ground.
So when did Lynchburg become a haven for fuckheads like the Falwells?
You're lucky to live in Virginia. I'm two hours from Gettysburg, and I know know the feeling.
Where at in Lynchburg. I lived in Bedford Hills when I worked at Appomattox. A bit of a drive every day but beautiful scenery
I'm in Chattanooga, not too far away from Northern Georgia where Chickamauga was fought. I know the feeling as well
This was the 2nd time Grant and Lee met. The first time was during the US-Mexican War.
Wow brothers fighting side by side then becomes civil war.
Did they know each other at West Pointe?
@@edwardburchins5102 no.
Did Grant ever meet General Jackson who also served in the US-Mexican War?
@@vintagebrew1057 No, as far as I know.
Even as a Yankee, I would definitely take my hat off in front of Robert Edward Lee.
I spamsalot Nice one!
why was there not a firing squad convened?
Because, Lincoln and Grant discussed this day. Lincoln instructed Grant that there would be no revenge. Grant, takes pen to paper and writes, "...your men may return to their homes where they will remain, undisturbed, unless they take up arms agains the US again..." This simple sentence gave the ALL amnesty. The terrible civil war was over and it was time to reunite and heal. Brilliant.
@KoiBoi 1113 they were not prisoners of war, they were treasonous secessionists and should have been shot
@KoiBoi 1113 they were treasonous criminals and the high command should have been held to account..Bin Laden was murdered so he could not give evidence against the USA, he was unarmed when the seals executed him without trial
General Lee and General Grant showed more respect and honor towards each other than Union and Confederate supporters do nowadays when just discussing the war. Those guys tried to kill each other and yet still behaved civil now each side attacks the other just for wanting to remember and honor their ancestors that fought.
This scene is from the miniseries North and South: Book II (1986) It is Episode 6.
Grant was the one man who undertsood what Lincoln wanted. As stated below, Grant changed the course of history.
No he did not, he set the course of history. The only way to change the course of history is to time travel.
Impossible not to notice George Custer at 1:53 (and later) - he certainly liked the flamboyant uniform.
I have a uniform like a general Armstrong Custer gold braid on my uniform and a hat like his hat
Custer almost bought it at Appomattox - during the truce, he rode by himself up to Longstreet's lines and ordered the Army to surrender. Longstreet basically told him to either piss off or be shot and then turned to an aid and ordered another division brought forward. Longstreet was bluffing but Custer didn't know this and he apparently galloped back to Union lines as quickly as possible
@@Trek001 Makes me wonder what "Old Pete" thought when he learned of Custer's fate at the Little Bighorn.
Custer was a fool
@@jamesgollan8602 you clearly don’t know a thing about the man.
Don’t think this is mentioned anywhere but this scene is from 1986’s North and South: Book II Episode 6.
Thanks. Now. I know it's on the History Channel, but when does or did play? I'd love to see it.
Fun Fact: The house belonged to a retired Major in the Virginia Militia, and at the time a sugar broker and wholesale grocer, Wilmer McLean.
Ironically, the First Battle of “Bull Run” (First Battle of Manassas, July 21, 1861) took place on the grounds of Mr. McLean’s *former* home; Yorkshire Plantation in Manassas, Prince William County, VA. The poor guy just couldn’t get away from the war. 🤦♀️
True McClain said the war started in my backyard and ended in my front parlor.
@@markross2124 And he moved to Appomattox from Manassas specifically to get away from the war.
There truly couldn't have been a better way for the war to have been concluded. It speaks well of General Grant to show the Army of Northern Virginia such compassion and mercy by allowing General Lee and his Brave and Valiant troops to finally surrender with honor and dignity. Once the terms of surrender were met, Lee and his men were free to go home and live the rest of their lives in peace, safety and comfort as all Americans should. The Civil War truly was the Greatest war of our times, the Generals who led us in battle, both the North and South were the greatest Generals of our time and the Soldiers who fought all it's battles and endured all it's hardships were the greatest Soldiers of our time.
Then they pissed it all away with a repugnant reconstruction that destroyed any common ground and good will that this scene should have forged.
Thanks in large part to John Wilkes Booth.
Yup, my Great Great Great Granduncle did his part too.
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It's a pity that many of those "brave and valiant troops" didn't extend that same level of compassion and mercy to their black neighbours and political opposites when they got back home, and instead chose to murder many innocent and defenceless American men and women, as if the war never ended. These men were clearly undeserving of the mercy Grant showed them and proved as much by how they conducted themselves during the reconstruction era and the values they chose to install in their children.
I think Robert E Lee was a brave soldier and capable General. He underestimated the defences in Gettysburg which was his downfall. Even then he managed to cross the river and retreated with what was left of his army after defeat partly to do with George Mead being too cautious and doesn't want to fall into trap.
THEY HAD ALREADY LOSS THE WAR WHEN THEY LOST STONEWALL JACKSON IN VA. IF HE HAD BEEN THERE IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A DIFFRENT BATTLE!
I think Lee was a blundering old fool and a butcher!
After being advised not to fight at Gettysburg, he not only went on to lose the Battle but prolonged the war by a further two years. Then lost again.
There were much better and capable Generals in the Confederate Army.
I am not an American.
HISTORIAN Stephen Sears would disagree with the second part of your segment sir ....yet it is good to see so many comments on this awful struggle ..lest we forget......
That was Lee's reputation, so General Meade did want to turn a victory into a defeat. Also, a large number of units force marched into Gettysburg on a very hot and humid day, fought, and were severally depleted in Men and Ammunition as well as other provisions....
So to engage General Lee's Army could have easily been a victory for the Army of Southern Virginia!
Lee ( the south) didn't have a chance. Once an aggressive commander to over the union army and made a plan to attack at all fronts - it was over. The north had cowards and non fighters before Grant came along.
Interesting that the surrender papers Lee signed were drawn up by Grant's aid General Elly Parker of New York, who just happened to be a full blooded Seneca Sachem.
Lee considered the natives "real Americans" despite ill feeling towards black people.
@@SantomPh Lee massacred black POW's and sent them back to slavery. He refused to exchange them in prisoner exchanges because "the white soldier is not worth useless property"
A lot of Cherokee fought with the Confederacy. There's a few books out there on it
As Lee prepared to surrender, his main support team said, " we are ready to turn this into guerilla warfare, to continue this fight. We'll do what ever you want General". Lee said, "let's not do that men. It's time to lay down our arms". That's the depth of this man, who was torn by this war, and it showed on his face. One of my kin married his first cousin, Anne Harriotte Lee, way back, and I read everything I could find about him as I grew up. Another of my kin, Lt. Charles Mallory Harper from Georgia, in his memoirs stated how his men gave Lee the Rebel yell as he trotted past them on Traveler, following this surrender. Then they ate cracked corn the Union soldiers horses missed, and it was the fist thing they had to eat in days. Desperate times for sure.
Man you have a lot of descendants.
At a low point during the Revolution, George Washington considered converting the Continental Army into a guerrilla force and taking to the hills. He didn't do it b/c he knew civilians would suffer the most in such a war.
I think Lee understood something else: Guerilla war would have literally been pointless.
Was the confederacy going to re-emerge from a guerilla fight? No.
Was slavery going to be restored? Certainly not. Not after that much blood. Even northerners indifferent to slavery wouldn't sign up for that for any reason.
So, literally, what was the point other than to provoke an even harsher reconstruction than the one they actually got?
Guerilla war would have been the equivalent of the spite check in chess, but much more harmful. A lot of soldiers in the south had, by then, lost the plot. It would never have achieved any political aim they had any interest in.
Yes, I would have taken my hat off in salute to that great man. Though I'm for the Union, General Lee was a true patriot for his state of Virginia. We must remember that before the Civil War there were no Americans but citizens of the several states. You belonged to your state, not to the federal government. The Civil War changed things around to where today we are Americans and states are secondary. That's why I hate to see how history is being revised.
It depends on what state you were in and where you came from. Places like Massachusetts and Pennsylvania already felt like parts of a greater union while others like Texas and Virginia felt like their own place. The Northern armies also had huge numbers of new immigrants from Europe, which did not easily identify with any state but the idea of "America".
Lee took up arms against the United States. That doesn’t make him a patriot it makes him a traitor.
That is literally nonsense. You might have said such a thing during the period of the Articles of Confederation. But, those failed. The US Constitution specifically gave the Federal government a lot of power, including the supremacy clause. The practical necessity of Federal supremacy and therefore a Federal Government was not lost on the observant.
It is undoubtedly true that a lot more people identified with their state in those days than today, but the war itself did a lot to undermine that, particularly in the north.
Jefferson might be regarded as someone akin to your way of thinking, but Hamilton thought in national terms and that struggle began log before the Civil War and was part of the politics from the day the constitution was ratified.
What may be lost in American history is that General Lee was the very first General to be offered the Supreme leadership of the Union Army in 1861 by President Lincoln but he refused and resigned his federal military commission because he did not want to fight against his native Virginia...His ancestrial mansion home...Arlington House...was later confiscated by the Union which eventually became the immortal and hallowed Arlington National Cemetery which is now the eternal resting place to American sons and daughters of both the North and South who have fought in American wars since then...
according to trump, the fallen were losers, yet looking at the polls the south is prepared to pee on the graves of the fallen and vote for a draft dodging disrespectful fool..Strange really, there is no true patriotism in the Southern States even today
Robert E. Lee was a capable general, a brave soldier and an honorable man, and I'm a Yankee saying this.
MikeB Lee demonstrated gross incompetence at Gettysburg. Study your history.
Jim LaGuardia, I think he was sick during the battle, and some Generals of his staff did not follow his orders, do not blame Lee for Gettysburg. However, it was very interesting that he won more battles in defensive position than attacking to the Union.
Humberto Flores only because the Union generals he was fighting were somehow less decisive
the trouble with Lee is he never improved during the war.
MikeB At one time the same thing was said of Benedict Arnold.
Even as a Northerner (Pennsylvania) I can't help but wonder what was going through Lee's mind as he rode into the house. Probably wondering if he's doing the right thing or if victory was still possible. Add feeling he let Virginia down too.
A North Carolinian here. Lee knew the war was substantially lost at Gettysburg. The South could never overcome the capacity of the Union especially with the Naval blockade of Southern ports. This is why Lee gambled. A war of attrition was never in favor of the Confederacy. I recommend some of Shelby Foote's interviews. We Southerners new a lot more was lost than the war and the end of slavery. We have the giant leviathan of the Federal government reaching into every aspect of our lives and perpetually widdling away our freedom as a result of the Union winning the war. I think sacrifice of his men and the loss of his country was on his mind that day. The war was likely inevitable when slavery was not abolished in some way with ratification of the Constitution. In that time and still to this day in a minor way, Northerners can not comprehend our devotion to our land and family being superior to devotion of country.
The son of Revolutionary War Hero, and George Washington's closest friend, Richard Henry Lee III, aka, Lighthorse Harry Lee.
One of the top graduates of the new U.S. Military Academy at West Point, Class of 1820.
Mexican War hero and one of the top aides on General in Chief Scott's staff.
The man who captured John Brown at Harper's Ferry who was himself leading an insurrection. The man who was considered the finest soldier in the pre war army and who both Lincoln and General Winfield Scott wanted to lead the Union armies. A first son of Virginia, having to go and accept terms from General Grant.
It truly had to kill him inside to do this.
maybe he was worried about being hung for treason?
The war had gotten to a point where things were beginning to get ridiculous. I think the thing that was going through Lee's mind was "Let's get this over with and move on."
I think he had an idea it was ending soon, but didn't want to admit it to himself. He didn't want to think that he'd lost. He didn't want to admit Grant was a bigger general than he was. A better one. And. If you look at a picture of Grant, you'd see him in that picture with that bottle of whiskey in his hand, Lee? I don't think so. According to that picture of Lee we all see, he doesn't have a single thing: Cigar. Whiskey bottle. Anything.
‘You’re mistaken, sir,’ he said. ‘You may forgive us, but we won’t be forgiven. There is a rancor in our hearts which you little dream of. We hate you, sir.’“ CSA Gen. Wise
Grant was a solid intelligent strategist with good common sense and knew how to use his assets to gain victory. However, as a student of history the generals I’m most impressed with are Napoleon and Genghis Khan. Genghis Khan wasn’t just a marauding barbarian. His tactics were such that even today’s generals could learn from. Absolutely a genius strategist and tactician and knew how to pick the best subordinate generals as well. If you study his battle tactics I promise you would be thoroughly impressed. And everyone knows about Napoleon so I don’t need to go into detail about him.
What tactics exactly? Because honestly I don’t think you have the slightest clue what you’re talking about. 😂😂
@@iwritechecksatthegrocerystore
The reason why you think that is because you yourself haven’t studied Genghis Khan in the slightest. His feigned retreats is only one example. Do some research before criticizing.
@@nole8923 soooo what you mean is “I don’t know”
The best Generals promoted based on merit not familial ties, the inevitable downfall of all empires
@@iwritechecksatthegrocerystore Lazy af
God bless Robert E Lee.
General Lee was an honorable man and a gentleman. Unlike Cornwallis, he had the self respect and decency to be present during the proceedings.
I think this was taken from the TV Miniseries " North and South. " Starring Patrick Swayze and James Read.
Excellent re-enactment of Gen. Lee's honorable surrender. It was a time when gentlemen led armies and fought hard but with honor. While Gen. Lee's surrender effectively ended the war, other Confederate armies were still in the field and yet to surrender. At least one Reb general, Jo Shelby's Iron Brigade of Missouri, never did surrender and instead took his brigade to Mexico, though that didn't end well.
Fought with honor to defend the freedom to enslaved and traffick other human beings. These men had no more honor than the 3rd Reich.
Lee was a gentleman. However, he took an oath of the parade ground at West Point. The same is taken today. Lee was a tailor to that oath. He was lucky to have lived back then when Grant took the long view.
Dignified and Honorable always. Brought tears to my eyes, such a gentleman, under the circumstances of Appamattox. God go with him always and may he RIP.
Shame he was a slave holder.
Damn they gave u hope bothers them that they waisted his money we don't flash
RIP? Lol nah I hope he’s burning in HE🔥🔥 for what he did to my people
@@iangascoigne8231 They all were.
@@matthewjahnke6956 And does that excuse Lee?
The reality was there really wasn t much to celebrate. The country at that point had SO much healing to do just to survive. I am GLAD I WAS NOT THERE...but what an amazing moment in history. The whole tumultuous country...for moment...froze and heald it s breath...unable to breathe in the presence of such an overwhelmingly Enormous historical action. WOW!!!!
To take down the monuments of Lee is to take down what forgiveness and reconciliation is about. It's to take down our history, and what it took to get to where we are today.
Every Black American who has had to walk within sight of those monuments on the public square has felt a chill -- just as was intended when they were erected. Crash 'em.
oK. Good. But, it's also used to erase history too. Think about it: A 5 year old kid asks who is General Lee, they'll think, or maybe not, think of the car, not the man.
There are no statues of Benedict Arnold or Hitler anywhere.
@@matthewjahnke6956 That 5 year old is likely smarter that you.
@@priscillabouffant9515 What makes you think so?
U.S Grant is the man!
The most corrupe president in history
@@erictimber5849 NO TRUMP is the most corrupt and cooked president. Worst than Warren Harding also.
Didn't happen this way... to bad. Sherman said no cheering when he rode up. And Lee was saluted on way out for respect
Uh.. Sherman wasnt there . He was in NC burning something.
@@michaelbarnett2527 yeah meant grant...my bad
To be clear: The white flag does not traditionally symbolize "surrender", as is often portrayed. Displaying a white flag is to call for a temporary truce, to allow army leaders to meet and establish either terms of surrender, a short cease fire, or to allow the removal of the dead and wounded from the field. Though there's no specific law (at the time this takes place) that prevents a person from shooting someone holding a white flag; to do so would have your own men kill you because you had dishonored the trust the enemy had put in you. What's more, it would also mean that should that enemy survive, and your own men raise a white flag, the enemy would likely ignore it.
Indeed so folks, what a man
OK, well explain this: Why is his name being dishonored? His statue being broken? His street name being changed? His name taken off of the college?
Very touching that the 'enemy', all took their hats off in respect to General Lee, at no doubt was the lowest point in his career.
It was a sign of respect they all had. I guess of love, although I'm not sure. However. He was a respected general. They had to thank him at some point. They probably knew he'd sign the surrender papers.
"You only won because you had more Irish than we did."
Gen Ely Parker was one of Grant’s chief of staff who wrote the terms of surrender that Gen Lee signed….he was a full blooded American Seneca Indian who was educated by my 3x grandfather in upstate New York….also saved Grants life once on a nighttime maneuver when riding into a Confederate camp, warning them to turn back
"Sir, we are all Americans."
Not any more. There are Americans and Democrats.
@@Jonascord Geez, real edge lord aren't you?
@@digitaldistancerecords736 Explain how I'm wrong.
War is hell but at least everybody has access to a decent dry cleaners so they could appear immaculate on camera.
He was a great strategist and tactician, one of the best. I would bow my head to him.
OTC, while his tactics were good (Gettysburg and a couple of other encounters excepted) and his grasp of the operational art excellent, his strategic sense was poor; neither of his two invasions of the North should have been undertaken. And as soon as Stonewall fell, his operational prowess fell off as well, since he was left with the likes of Longstreet and Early and Ewell adn Stuart, none of whom could be trusted for long with an independent command.
@@roberthaworth8991 OK. Then who would've been called up?
That's so true that Lee was a warrior and a gentleman. Both Lee and Grant are great Men
yes. And Grant was President. Robert E. Lee? On his deathbed. I forgot what he died from.
I am a southerner who respects Grant and his terms of surrender because they were extremely generous.
Lincoln wanted to quickly and peacefully bring the USA back together, Grant knew harsh terms and executions would only enrage the South and prolong reunification.
@@randomtraveler9854 Yep but the assassination of Lincoln changed everything and new president put some harsh term on the South as punishment for his murder and prolong reunification but less executions and Grant knew this but can't do anything.
Yea.. I’d say so. Since they all deserved the noose at the very least. Probably wouldn’t have half the issues we do today.
@@iwritechecksatthegrocerystore Hanging the Southerner leaders would have just caused more hostilities. Reconstruction was about reconciliation, not punishment.
@@randomtraveler9854 I know what it was about. It was a mistake. I’m reminded of Ben Franklin, who famously stated, after signing the declaration: we must all hang together, or we I’ll most assuredly... hang separately.
Also do you honestly think John Q reb would’ve given a shit about seeing Jeff Davis or Lee swing? The cruelty and inhumanity that the south would go on to perpetuate towards their fellow man, would have been stamped out had Johnson, or even the Grant administration had the gall to do so. In fact, I’d go so far as to say, had this insurrection, this traitorous movement, by a bunch of wealthy, racist, capitalist lying sons of bitches who stirred the pot to send 250,000 American boys to their deaths for the lie of “states rights” been punished instead of allowed to continue that myth: our country would be a better place today
At Appomattox, Lee told his men to "Fold the flag and put it away, or else it will be devisive." ✅️
He was right ! Lee also said, of civil war statues, "Best to not leave open the sores of war." 🎯
Robert Eustace Lee walked into the house a Confederate, and came out an American.
his middle name was Edward
he walked in as a treasonous loser, and walked out as a treasonous loser
@@jamesgollan8602 what happened to unity and forgiveness.
@@rickyj5547 USA is not United, and treason should never be forgiven
@@rickyj5547 that is why you have gutless cowards running around with pillow cases on their heads..real unity it seems
General Lee riding under a French flag.
You should have seen the poilous fighting the germans in 1917 and you won’t say that…
Abraham Lincoln respected Lee. Ulysses Grant respected Lee. I think we should ALL do the same.
He was a fine General but at the end of the day he was little more than a traitor
@@richardkrilljr.8711 no he wasn't
@@robertisham5279 - he took up arms against his country.....what would you call him?
I don't think black people would lol
No respect for traitors.
One story I've always liked about the surrender at Appomattox came after the surrender was finalized. Upon walking out Wilmer McLean's house, Gen. Lee happened to notice Ely Samuel Parker (born Hasanoanda, later known as Donehogawa) who was an aide to Gen. Grant and a member of the Seneca nation.
After stopping, Gen. Lee commented '"I am glad to see one real American here." Ely Parker shook Lee's hand and replied "We are all Americans.'"
I wonder if he thought about all the teenage boys he had in his army that would live now. And the ones he sent to their deaths for the Confederacy
Don't think any teenage boys in 1865 Will be actually live un 2021
@@claymore806 They didn't live to 65. It sickens me to think of the Confederate Government not to accept reality. Lee, just like Jefferson sent these kids to their death. So did the congress who made these draft laws. Just like Nazi Germany
Grants terms were basically throw down your guns and go home. Lee asked that grant feed his soldiers cause they were starving. Grant granted it. There were no arrests or trials for treason although Lincolns assassination made president johnson and Secretary of war stanton want to recind the agreement. Grant refused.
This was, because the radicals in the Republican Party suspected Jeff Davis to be behind the assassination. He was not. None of the Confederate leaders had any idea about the plot, and none of them were celebrating when they heard about the assassination while on the run after being forced out of Richmond.
What this TV Series did to John Jakes' classic trilogy was a downright travesty. George Hazard following General Grant up the steps at Appomattox? Lol, Oh my.
One mishap - it was known the moment the surrender was made known, the Union troops cheered and roared; Grant ordered silence - as a measure of respect, the war was over and it was no longer us vs them, Americans once again; starting then was healing and reconstruction
I'm not sure what is the name of this movie, but George Armstrong Custer's uniform and vibe ~ 100& badass and on point!
Come on you Wolverines!
A very special place to see…you feel the presence of the past!
Wonder what General Lee thought seeing all those union soilders trying not to shoot him?
There was a white flag behind him, that's a sign not to shoot. Probably thought these boys are just obeying commands.
Lee and Grant both military heroes of mine
I wonder if Grant would be able to personally surrender and go away with remains of his dignity, if the opposite situation happened.
FalconRS i think so. the CSA wouldve had to trade with the North anyway postwar, so humiliation would've been rather short-sighted political strategy and Lee, being a honourable soldier, would not have tolerated it towards Grant (unless the North had resorted to acts outside the Articles of War on a grotesque scale).
Lee was a traitor. There isn't a shread of dignity in that.
You spelled Court House wrong. It wasn't a courthouse as in a building. It was Appomattox Court House as in a town that was the county seat of government. That was common back in those days. I noticed a place in a northern state called Washington Court House designating the town where the county courthouse was.
I didn't realize Lee and 'Grant spoke Spanish at Appomattox.
Keep letting illegals in, and we will all be speaking Spanish.
Idea was that Grant will surrender to Lee, but how they spoke Spanish at the end Lee surrender to Grant at Appomattox and South lost the war.
Me either. But, of course, that was 150 years ago in Virginia.
I'm not sure this was accurate. Historical records say after the signing. Grant immediately departed for Washington while Lee stayed to begin the discharge process for his surrendered troops.
The tragedy of the Civil War is that so many great and wise men knew they were in the wrong and yet stubbornly chose the wrong side of history.
What movie or tv series is this from?
"A dust covered man on a dust covered horse"
Ein entsetzlicher Moment für die ganze Welt! Respektiert wenigstens eure Helden, wenn ihr schon versucht die ganze Welt zu unterjochen! Meinen Respekt für die Konföderierten!
What movie is this?
It is a TV series from the 80s, North & South.. starring Patrick Swayze and other known actors..
@@humbertoflores2545 Thanks!
This is a well done reenactment. It has such pathos.
General lee was the best officer of the entire war!
Lee once said, he would have never joined the Confederate Army if his beloved native Virginia were not on the Confederate Side. Funny the final Peace was signed in Virginia!
Virginia made the wrong decision. Kentucky and Maryland, who were slave-states, remained loyal to the Union.
Lee wore a red sash that day. This is so inaccurate
It’s a movie, impossible to be dead set correct
How accurate is it where lee starts riding his horse in front of the Union almost as though he's inspecting them
I think it's real. As a matter of fact, I've got that same picture on my wall right now.
At least they didn't ruin it with a lot of damn fool talking.
thats because all the talking was done the previous day. terms of surrender were arranged just down the street in a private home owned by Mr. Wilbur McLean
@@googoo-gjoob The building you see there *is* McLean's house. For whatever reason this does not show the meeting between Lee and Grant.
The fact that these union soldiers who fought against him had the respect to remove their caps speaks volumes. These douche's nowadays want to remove statues of this man, which boils my blood.
he was a f$%king traitor, a low life..sort of like trump
Lee was a traitor to the USA. He's lucky he wasn't hung. There are no statues to Benedict Arnold.
English title, spoken in Spanish...
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[Cries in Spanish]
Oh well, time to learn Spanish then
@Mayan Empire That will never happen. You come here, you learn our damn language.
Blasphemy. As a southern man my blood is boiling watching this. Not due to my ancestors who died but in Spanish? _-_- that. Who whipped the shit out of General Santa Anna! I'm with @ David Bowling
it should be stated in the title that all the dialog is in Spanish, thank you.
General Lee from Starbucks
What Paton said about Americans never losing wars...
Oh, for the love of Pete, it's dubbed in Spanish!
¡Para el amor de Pedro!
Which movie or series is this taken from?
Even in Spanish the south still lost 👍🏻
chuckle....
You should go back and read up on your history.. Grant was ready to surrender until Lee invaded the north. If he had stayed south of the Mason Dixon line another 6-8 weeks . The surrender would have been completely opposite.
doesnt change the fact that lee surrender and the south lost, mate
Reof Never said it did mate... Invading the north was a tactical era on Lees part.
He was as tired of the war as anyone. Had the Confederate army stayed south the war would have turned out different.
Grant was never ready to surrender. He was frustrated during the Vicksburg campaign, took to the bottle again, and at one point even considered resigning his commission because he felt he was being thwarted by Union Army leadership because of his drinking.But Grant never considered surrendering because of enemy action.Lee should have never crossed the Mason Dixon line. He should have assumedcommand of the defense at Vicksburg realizing the threat Grant was to the CSAif he split it in two by seizing the town. At the very least, Lee should have dispatchedthe defensive genius, Longstreet, with his brigade and orders to assume commandof Vicksburg's defense.Lee lost sight of the true objective of the South which was that it should not have been trying todefeat the North on the battlefield. It just needed to prevent the North from defeating them.They should have fought like Washington did in the Revolution with the objective of preservingthe Army at all costs until the enemy put itself into a bad position that could be exploited in a brash sneak attack.
What movie
One of the lesser known members of General Grant's staff, Brigadier-General George Hazard.
My General Robert E. Lee! CSA!!
General Ulysses S. Grant, USA!
two heroes from different sides.
Confederacy lost lol they deserved to lose too
Support from Europa! Your lands will be today better place for living under CSA rule than USA rules. Long Live Dixie and CSA!
Didn't even get Robert E Lee's uniform right. No braid on the sleeve no stars on the collar. Just look at his uniform at Appomattox museum.
As a citizen of the Confederate States of America General Robert E Lee is a great General
Was
And Stonewall Jackson too! RIP to heroes of the South!
These actors look nothing like Lee and grant, but very accurate depiction.
My family still has journals from when my ancestors heard the cruel news of the surrender at Appomattox courthouse
Cruel? The war was lost. Lee knew it, and he spared the nation a time of guerilla warfare.
This scene misses a significant event of Native American history. When Grant and his staff enter the farmhouse BG Ely Parker, a full blooded Native American is not present. Parer is the man who drafted the terms of surrender. When Lee got up to leave, he shook BG Parker’s hand and said, “I’m glad there is at least one teal American here”.
....and the Seneca Indian Parker said : " We are ALL Americans here today, General Lee !!.....except the trannies, the commies, the thug gang members, the Islamic terrorists, and the Aztecs and Mayans who call themselves 'Latinos' !!! "
The Lee actor looks like Carl Ballentine, Lester Gruber in McHale's Navy, Anthony Zerbe doesn't look like Grant and his glue-on beard looks crappy. Plus, Grant wore a private's blouse with shoulder boards and muddy boots to Appomattox, but no production ever has the grit to show it that way. Looks like hell, in any language.
I believe the actor who played Lee, was William Schallert. He was also in the movie, "In the heat of the night".
@@Mark-pp7jy It is he. He was in the 1968 movie and an episode of the tv version in 1990. My comment had to do with the atrocious make-up and hair. And if you imdb Carl Ballantine, you'll see what I meant. This clip was from North and South, Book II, Love and War, from 1986 when Schallert was 63.
Boots get muddy after a 20 mile ride you clown. This is inaccurate. Lee picked the place of surrender. He knew the family and he was there long before Grant. He took a bath and changed uniforms. You red necks are morons.
Lee and Davis are seen as traitor and lee lost his citizenship
Lee surrendered, the South didn't.
True! Lee surrendered and died, but the South did not surrendered. Even today! My support to South from still white Europa.
And over 600,000 thousand Americans, Blue and Grey, died to reach that point at Appomattox The most incredible waste in American history.
In reality, that act of surrender was not the end of American civil war. Fights continued in Texas until 26th of May, 1865. Like on the Pacific theater in ww2: Japanese surrender on 2nd of September, 1945, but last Japanese soldier really surrender in April, 1974. So, that is real end of ww2 and of American civil war. The historians really trick us with wrong facts.
it took them parts of 5 years with the greatest army ever assembled. almost 3 times the men, better weapons, plenty of food, winter uniforms, unlimited ammunition, etc. but the 'butcher' as his men called him(because he lost so many), finally got Lee to surrender. LONG LIVE DIXIE!!!
NO chance with out Jackson!
@@donniecarter2873 Even with Jackson the South a little chance. The south economy was in ruin by Gettysburg.
It was not so simple. Read more books about the Civil War. I have dozens of them with all the details.
Jackson at Gettysburg would have made it a different battle.
Don't understand why Black slaves were portrayed in the ending scene of this movie giving the fact that historically, there were no Blacks present of the surrender at Appoxmattox Courthouse..........................
That is a propaganda trick of winners of that war. They not doing that for the Blacks. They doing that for destroying of the CSA and all South. And they do that well. Even today!
Sargente Tucker traje los caballos!
what show or movie was this?
North & South a TV series from the 80s..
I think this was from the ABC Miniseries "North & South Part II," first broadcast in 1986. I recorded it on VHS.