Thanks for sharing. Some great memories of Betram Mills Circus at Olympia in the 60s. Finally worked out something after 54 years. In 64 i did a school excursion by a chartered train from Tottenham to Sourthhampton. Ever worked out the route though. The train arrived at Seven Sisters pulled by a class 31. I remember an engine change at Clapham Junction to a Bullied Pacific. How did we get to Clapham????? Well I finally worked it out. After leaving Sevensisters the train took the junction to the Kentish Town Barking line which now is Gospel Oak to Barking. The train then dropped down onto the Lea Valley line towards Stratford and then onto the NL line then onto Kensingtom and over the Thames to Clapham. Only took54 years to .work it out
Thank you. I love the noise our train makes, and the crew actually stopped talking for just that bit so I felt compelled to share what I could of it. I realise it won't be to everyone's taste.
I've now watched all 11 excellent videos in this play list. Not only have I enjoyed watching them but I have also learned some new stuff (to me) about East Anglia. isn't it sad that so many stations and lines have all but disappeared. I was a little puzzled by some of the bridges to the south of Peterborough (video 9, I think). For some distance south of Peterborough the old bridges were all built to take 4 tracks under. But the newer ones only looked wide enough to take the current 2 tracks. I wonder if this was due to short-sightedness or just a very tight budget... Thanks again for an interesting and informative set.
Congratulations on completing the odyssey. I note you generally join the tours in London, but I'd love to see a vid of the preparations for such a tour down in darkest St Leonards and then the trip up to London - whether via Bexhill or Robertsbridge - or even via Ashford? Greedy, ain't I...
Thank you! I don’t plan to show preparations, but I do have footage “in the can” from a couple of trips which I boarded at Hastings... so your wish will be partially granted in due course :)
I'm somewhat bemused! At the start of the journey, we are advised that the footage was shot on an unattended, unmonitored camera. At the end, we are told that a videographer left the train???
Yes, both of those statements are true. I did not travel in the cab at any stage. I accessed the cab for a few seconds while the train was calling at Kensington Olympia, in order to remove my camera as I was leaving the train. If it comes to that, I'd fitted it in similar fashion over 12 hours earlier while the train called at the opposite platform on the outward journey.
I was wondering how the North London lines were allocated up & down? Both directions start and finish in London, but the easterly direction gets closer to central London than the westerly, but the westerly is the up?????
Thank you. The North London Line supports a 6tph all-stations passenger service and quite a few freight trains plus oddities such as ourselves. We will always end up behind a stopping train, hence the slow going.
The North London Line supports a 6tph all-stations passenger service and quite a few freight trains plus oddities such as ourselves. We will always end up behind a stopping train, hence the slow going.
I don't know if that's true, but even if it, what happens to those trains that have come through Tottenham when they get to Gospel Oak? ...They join the North London Line as described.
It'd tell him to not bother with the flash, because all you'll do is get bright spots off any glossy paint or reflective decals, and get a rubbish picture. I never use flash.
Ah yes, Gospel Oak -Barking, the line that was closed for about a year for electrification and they STILL use two-car DMUs on it... London Overground, brought to you by the Government ...
They still do now! There's been complaints about it, the usual explanations that they don't have enough trains, the new trains are a year late, etc, etc ...
Still miles better than Silver link at least you're getting new trains we still have to make do with second hand ones, oh and the Overground is run by TfL not DoT....
Yes, I was wondering why there was no audio available from the rear cab as in the other videos in the series. Still nice to see the end of the journey though.
I know, I share your disappointment. I couldn't publish the leading-cab soundtrack because of the drivers talking, and I had to retrieve my rear-cab recording device in preparation for leaving the train (and retrieving the leading-cab GoPro) at Olympia. Faced with a choice of picture without sound or nothing at all, I chose picture without sound - I hope it's better than nothing, and returning to Olympia does kind of round things off neatly. You'll see that I have previously published entire videos (e.g. Bath to Severn Tunnel Junction) without a soundtrack, where it has not been possible to provide one.
But was wondering why you need to delete audio when drivers are conversing? Is it that sensitive? TBH, I couldn't care what they say! But these are all wonderful vids, nonetheless...
Thanks Mark. You might not care what they say, but they may not even realise I'm recording their voices within the noisy "privacy" of the train-cab: it would be patently unfair then to worldwide-publish their unguarded commentary. (Hint: it's not always restricted to railway topics.) If it were just the driver's side of a (recorded-line) radio-conversation with the Signaller, that might be different.
Of course there was talk that dual electrification somehow affected concrete structures. Rubbish as the NNL used to be dual electrification throughout. DC for the EPB units AC for freight. Even today dual electrification in several areas. So nonsense. I had to deal with ideas that DC on the tramway at East Croydon would cause problems when the DC railway had been running for 60 years.
Yet another interesting clip, is that GWR's main depot at 14:30? Don't you just loath the idiots who think graffiti is an artform, kinda makes the miles of barbed wire fencing superfluous.
I enjoy your videos great views and love you give facts as you go along the routes top job !
Thanks for posting,brings back memories,as a secondman at Ripple Lane in 80's !
Brilliant video! I love passing through all the suburban railway stations!
Excelente las 11 partes, gracias por el trabajo realizado. Un saludo
A super ride even without the audio in the latter part.
Thank you for the video. It is a very good picture.
Thanks for sharing.
Some great memories of Betram Mills Circus at Olympia in the 60s.
Finally worked out something after 54 years.
In 64 i did a school excursion by a chartered train from Tottenham to Sourthhampton.
Ever worked out the route though.
The train arrived at Seven Sisters pulled by a class 31.
I remember an engine change at Clapham Junction to a Bullied Pacific.
How did we get to Clapham?????
Well I finally worked it out.
After leaving Sevensisters the train took the junction to the Kentish Town Barking line which now is Gospel Oak to Barking.
The train then dropped down onto the Lea Valley line towards Stratford and then onto the NL line then onto Kensingtom and over the Thames to Clapham.
Only took54 years to .work it out
Excellent video series hope there's more journeys in the pipeline, so informative, thank you
Thank you - yes, more in the pipeline!
15:55 Turn left for DC Lines, DS Roach and DI Burnside.
Great video.☺️
Good video. Hastings Diesels are my favorite. FWIW the return of the audio before Kensington degraded the video.
Thank you. I love the noise our train makes, and the crew actually stopped talking for just that bit so I felt compelled to share what I could of it. I realise it won't be to everyone's taste.
Davi
I've now watched all 11 excellent videos in this play list. Not only have I enjoyed watching them but I have also learned some new stuff (to me) about East Anglia. isn't it sad that so many stations and lines have all but disappeared. I was a little puzzled by some of the bridges to the south of Peterborough (video 9, I think). For some distance south of Peterborough the old bridges were all built to take 4 tracks under. But the newer ones only looked wide enough to take the current 2 tracks. I wonder if this was due to short-sightedness or just a very tight budget...
Thanks again for an interesting and informative set.
Thank you Geoffrey, glad you've enjoyed these. Sorry I can't answer your conundrum.
Terrific lunar light action @ 1:17!!!!
Congratulations on completing the odyssey. I note you generally join the tours in London, but I'd love to see a vid of the preparations for such a tour down in darkest St Leonards and then the trip up to London - whether via Bexhill or Robertsbridge - or even via Ashford? Greedy, ain't I...
Thank you! I don’t plan to show preparations, but I do have footage “in the can” from a couple of trips which I boarded at Hastings... so your wish will be partially granted in due course :)
@@hastingsdiesels Excellent - looking forward to seeing them in due course.
that has changed ...took the last car transporter to dover from Olympia.and many a time to Old Oak
I'm somewhat bemused! At the start of the journey, we are advised that the footage was shot on an unattended, unmonitored camera.
At the end, we are told that a videographer left the train???
Yes, both of those statements are true. I did not travel in the cab at any stage. I accessed the cab for a few seconds while the train was calling at Kensington Olympia, in order to remove my camera as I was leaving the train. If it comes to that, I'd fitted it in similar fashion over 12 hours earlier while the train called at the opposite platform on the outward journey.
I was wondering how the North London lines were allocated up & down?
Both directions start and finish in London, but the easterly direction gets closer to central London than the westerly, but the westerly is the up?????
It appears that Camden Road West Junction is the "top" of the line, if you like, so travelling towards this point is UP and away from it is DOWN.
A very nice ride, but why is the speed of the train so slow?
Thank you. The North London Line supports a 6tph all-stations passenger service and quite a few freight trains plus oddities such as ourselves. We will always end up behind a stopping train, hence the slow going.
This is probably the third video I've seen on this line. Why are the trains so slow?
The North London Line supports a 6tph all-stations passenger service and quite a few freight trains plus oddities such as ourselves. We will always end up behind a stopping train, hence the slow going.
@@hastingsdiesels i thought the freight trains only went through tottenham?
I don't know if that's true, but even if it, what happens to those trains that have come through Tottenham when they get to Gospel Oak? ...They join the North London Line as described.
Why do I need a soundtrack when I have great captions? To hear a constant rumble and occasional bells. I am a U.K. person, but not a train person.
A few stern words to the flash photographer, methinks...
There were, though only through the windscreen.
It'd tell him to not bother with the flash, because all you'll do is get bright spots off any glossy paint or reflective decals, and get a rubbish picture. I never use flash.
Ah yes, Gospel Oak -Barking, the line that was closed for about a year for electrification and they STILL use two-car DMUs on it... London Overground, brought to you by the Government ...
This is 2017 the Electric Trains were not in service the Electrification was not complete, these things take time ....
They still do now! There's been complaints about it, the usual explanations that they don't have enough trains, the new trains are a year late, etc, etc ...
Still miles better than Silver link at least you're getting new trains we still have to make do with second hand ones, oh and the Overground is run by TfL not DoT....
Great vid but why continue when there is no soundtrack. Should have just edited and finished it when you couldn't provide audio.
Yes, I was wondering why there was no audio available from the rear cab as in the other videos in the series. Still nice to see the end of the journey though.
I know, I share your disappointment. I couldn't publish the leading-cab soundtrack because of the drivers talking, and I had to retrieve my rear-cab recording device in preparation for leaving the train (and retrieving the leading-cab GoPro) at Olympia. Faced with a choice of picture without sound or nothing at all, I chose picture without sound - I hope it's better than nothing, and returning to Olympia does kind of round things off neatly. You'll see that I have previously published entire videos (e.g. Bath to Severn Tunnel Junction) without a soundtrack, where it has not been possible to provide one.
Ah, that makes sense. Thanks for the explanation. 😀
But was wondering why you need to delete audio when drivers are conversing? Is it that sensitive? TBH, I couldn't care what they say! But these are all wonderful vids, nonetheless...
Thanks Mark. You might not care what they say, but they may not even realise I'm recording their voices within the noisy "privacy" of the train-cab: it would be patently unfair then to worldwide-publish their unguarded commentary. (Hint: it's not always restricted to railway topics.) If it were just the driver's side of a (recorded-line) radio-conversation with the Signaller, that might be different.
nice vid Subscribed!
Thanks for this, William.
Of course there was talk that dual electrification somehow affected concrete structures. Rubbish as the NNL used to be dual electrification throughout. DC for the EPB units AC for freight. Even today dual electrification in several areas. So nonsense. I had to deal with ideas that DC on the tramway at East Croydon would cause problems when the DC railway had been running for 60 years.
Yet another interesting clip, is that GWR's main depot at 14:30? Don't you just loath the idiots who think graffiti is an artform, kinda makes the miles of barbed wire fencing superfluous.