英語の歌詞の中で同音意義で音を踏んでるのめちゃくちゃシビれた。かっこいい… 『そしたら呻吟しなくて済む 夜診 急診も無くて済む』の英語歌詞を訳し直していくと ↓ Then I won't get cought up in singing any more. No more ambition, no more rapid progress. ○呻吟→(詩吟)→Singing ○夜診→野心→ambition ○急診→急進→rapid progress ○Catch up in(cought up in)で「他人の能力に劣らずついて行く、追いつく」だから訳し直すと ↓ 『そしたら、もう競うように歌わなくて済む。野心も、進歩もなくて済む。』 全文訳し直してて楽しかったです！ この曲はもっと色んな意味が盛り込まれてそう……。(考察班よろしくお願いします〜👋)
I don’t normally comment theorizing on songs, but this one is just too good and there’s too few people talking about this one and I love it badly. Anyways, something I never see talked about in detail is the flashback sequence at 2:22 , specifically about the doc in the part at 2:35 . Something about them being alone in the bathtub like that, and the way the nurse reaches her hand out at her along with the cut-ins of the medicine trays makes me really think that maybe the doc tried to off themself but the nurse saved them with the medicine? Although the nurse didn’t seem to be holding any pills in the shot where we can see the hand grab at the docs. But maybe the medicine and being brought back from death is why the doc has blue skin and are also immune to the zombies? That part and the part of the song mentioning “I’m a heavy user” before the flashback sequence really makes me think a lot about that part like this. (Thank you for reading this ramble)
This is maybe a little late, but I just read your comment and wanted to say that I understood it the same way. I think the doc invented the medicine and was very loved and hyped for it, then it came out it had the side effect turning people zombie. Everyone hated them now and turned their backs so they commited suicide. But the nurse (maybe the sister bc of the same hair color as seen in the end) saved them by using the medicine to turn them zombie.
@@chookitypah8305 maybe not by turning him into a zombie, but rather to make him immune? Or maybe by saving him after trying to commit, he got immune by himself
For the record I think it's worth commenting on how much the lyrics seem to be commenting on prescription medicine, with the chorus sounding like someone begging their doctor for them while insisting they don't have a problem and aren't addicted; and the song itself keeps talking about "being on the gray zone between legal and illegal". Whatever is going on with the MV has to be some sort of analogy for these themes I think
Hello, just read the comment from Heaven Dope and I discovered something. Both of the character were dead but the nurse was already dead at the very beginning while the doctor died later.
I love how there's audibly very little instruments used, yet the music never felt empty. It kinda makes every bit of the song stand out a bit more, and makes the silence after finishing the song a bit more unbearable than usual, lol.
Romantic dinner? Nah. Long walks on the beaches? Meh. Parachuting with my lover off a building during a zombie apocalypse, as we question our own humanity and pursuit of meaning? THAT’S WHAT I’M TALKING ABOUT!! 💗
@@chookitypah8305I thought so too. It would also explain why the nurse seems desperate to save [Doctorine] initially, yet is not included earlier in the flashback. (If they were lovers, they would probably be shown celebrating together at the award ceremony)
NILFRUITS is really out here... starting the year with absolute bops and the best PVs........ and with english translations too! We love to see it, thank you for carrying the whole vocaloid community on your shoulders 🍉💪
the news line text at 2:33 is in shona, a language spoken in zimbabwe. it translates to “side effects of the drug” leads me to think that the “medicine” shown in the video is something that was meant to bring the dead back to life, but turns them into zombies instead. the doctor was responsible for the invention of the medication, so he caught all the backlash when things started going wrong. as shown in the flashback scene, this led him to suicide. however, the nurse used the medication on him to bring him back, hence why his skin is blue and he’s portrayed as a zombie.
I posted this as an answer to a thread but figured I should post an independent comment to my theory too: 1) Doctor and Nurse's relationship (let's call the Nurse Rinu) - There's a theory of them being siblings/twin and I want to debunk that + While they share same hair color (and to a lesser extent, skin color) at the end. Their eyes is the biggest against this theory, Rinu has big eyes with green iris while Doctor has very edge eyes with orange iris. You would think if they are sibling, their eyes would share common design at least. + In the illustration design vid (here: m.ruclips.net/video/-TscYNfgMbA/видео.html&t ) Doctor went through so many designs, and most of them look very different from each other. While Rinu has been consistently being the same design. That's for me is the indication that there's no intention from the creators of the vid to design Rinu and Doctor as siblings/twin. + In the flashback at 1:16 , it shows a young Doctor holding hands with who presumed to be their parents. If they are siblings/twin, you would think Rinu would be in the flashback picture of Doctor's family too. - In the Nico version with two exclusive scenes of that version of Rinu. The first one is she woke up from her hospital bed, assumingly, cured from her "disease" by the Doctor. The next one is she wandering the street with a totally different clothing that isn't a nurse clothing, goggles and brown clothing. It depicted she's looking at the crowd of people and immediately in the next scene, it's the Doctor being forcibly interview by tabloids. That's the moment she found out about the news of Doctor being blamed for the "apocalypses". There's a clear time gap between she went from a patient to a wandering civilian to a nurse showing up to assist the Doctor. It's even likely that she learn to become a nurse (not a nurse before becoming a patient) to help the Doctor after finding out about the blaming news. Cause she was saved by the Doctor and want to repay him. Bonus point: I think Doctor's final design aka the canon one is meant to be androgynous with no specified gender to represent all doctors as of course both men and women work in the field. Doctor went through a lot of redesigns in the design illustration vid, both very male and female looking. The final design is meant that Doctor is androgynous and that's just the Doctor, no label needed. Though... Doctor's name might be Emma due to lyrics...And the line "So, put my tongue out. Mr. Emma" hint at the Doctor being male so now this is just a confusing topic. I chose to believe the androgynous more though. 2) Doctor is NOT the Apocalypses starter (Analyzing the flashbacks) - The title of the song: "Doctorine". It's a pun combining the word "Doctor" and "doctrine". The word "doctrine" means "a statement of fundamental government policy" or "a military principle or set of strategies". It sound suspiciously like Doctor is the scapegoat for the blame here and the government is the one who caused the apocalypses. I mean there are definitely the presence of the government and military in the MV: Helicopter dropping "pills" (aka bombs), the three people holding protest sign and TV News tabloids interviewing Doctor and the TV tagline blaming Doctor to be the one who cause it. "Side migumisiro yemushonga", the tagline on the news, translated to "side effects of the drug" in Shona Language. - The "orange" pills and the "syringe". Doctor was never depicted with a pill imagery. While the government did with the helicopter dropping "pills". Looking at the flashback sequence of how things transpire again. The patients lying down on the bed with a grieving family member by their side, then a syringe was injected into them and they woke up. The doctor's drug cure is the syringe, not the pills, which are heavily hinted to the cause of the "apocalypses". - Then why did seemingly, only Doctor's patients became zombies? It's because of the orange pills. It's very likely that the "orange pills" affect the patient's post-cure body and disease to cause them to become zombies. - But then where did the "orange pills" come from and why did the patient take it instead of Doctor's syringe cure? Here's the lyrics: "The crowd over-hype it as a great doctor, and abandon it instantly If they don’t need." The people immediately abandon Doctor's syringe cure after the patients are out of the hospital and went on to give the patients "orange pills" The "orange pills" are most likely something the government gave out. And it turned out badly, the government proceed to blame it all on the Doctor as a scapegoat. - Why do you think the Doctor is not to blame? The existence of Rinu. Rinu was the Doctor's patient too and she was obviously cured from the diseases, but she never became a zombie. Which prove, the cure did work with no side effect. Rinu also didn't take the "orange pills" so more evidence to the fact that Doctor's cure works as intended and the "orange pills" are to blame. - The zombies wears "orange" clothing. The "orange pills" are to link with the cause of zombie apocalypses, not the doctor's syringe cure. The imagery is enough said. - What's the nature of the "orange pills"? From the line of "heavy user" and some addictive drug imagery, it really looked like those "orange pills" are "happy drug" that the government administrated. Very "We Happy Few" (the game) of dyspopia world. And those happy drug clashed with Doctor's patient's body post-hospital. - Why do you think the "orange pills" are addictive drug? The Doctor, he went blue, could be said it's imagery to depression, but also can be an imagery to addiction. He clearly depressed after being blame as the cause of the apocalypses. He almost die in the bathtub even if Rinu wasn't there. It's possibly he took too much "orange pills" and became like that. 3) The Doctor and Rinu's process to help the zombies in the present day: - It sure looked like Doctor and Rinu went gangster on killing zombies, but they actually aren't. It's a fun imagery of showcasing that the zombies are "challenge" (the game over screen has "challenge" as map name) that Doctor and Rinu are trying to tackle, don't take them shooting guns and canon seriously. But why do you think those imagery aren't literal? Well, if Doctor and Rinu are actively trying kill the zombies, why not just let the government bombed it all? Why did they need to go into "ground zero" and shoot them by handguns and canons? It's just stylized sequences to show that Doctor and Nurse are trying to tackle the zombie's problems head on. - Not all zombies are mindless being, this is the intention of the funny Doctor/Rinu/Zombies hanging out. They are dancing with each other, playing video games, singing karaoke, taking selfie. Not all zombies are mindless beings and Doctor and Rinu are trying to show the world that. You can see all 3 of them holding signs to protest the government. Assumingly, protest the notions that all zombies should be bombed without an effort to cure them. - The Doctor and Rinu seem to be immune to the zombie disease? Well, actually no. From what we theorized, the zombie don't transmit through biting and such. It's a drug problem. The zombies's behavior could be simply mindless violence outburst and decrease in intelligence from addictive drug. Not actual "zombies" that we know it in popular media. - The zombie transmit is definitely not through bites because once again, looking at the scene where the kid hurting his family as zombies at 2:30 . None of his family members turned into zombie despite obviously being scratched and bite from kid zombie's violence outburst. - The Doctor though, his body and health is possibly the lead to cure the zombie. His body turned blue from taking too much "orange pills". The "orange pills" we know that cause the apocalypses. It seem like Doctor is likely a half-zombie due to overtaking of the drug but without the side effect of the other zombie so if we examine his body, we might find the clue for the cure. The scene of a zombie examining the Doctor's mouth is to showcase that. - The game over screen and their life going down is them keeping failing in their search for cure, to overcome the "challenge". It's a long and tedious process and they keep failing. - At the near end, where the giant zombie pushed out his shell to reveal it's a giant Doctor. I think the scene to illustrate Doctor's inner turmoil and also his position. This is the scene where he burst out and want to scream after he once again fail in his path to search for the cure. The lyric said: " Well, Goodbye “Doctorine". No one can compete with you. Please live with your role. Hope you live long enough." Then Doctor proceed to blast beam the city Godzilla style. They had gave up, they can't "compete" with the accusation that they are to blame as the cause of the apocalypse anymore. They accepted the "role" of one to be blamed and gave up. As he fell down onto the ground and fainted. - But there's a glimmering of hope. At the end of the vid, Doctor's body is seemingly back to normal. His skin turned back from being blue. He's cured? And this maybe the breakthrough they need to help all the zombies out there. And once again, Rinu reached out to Doctor and Doctor took her hand. They stood up and continued walking toward the unknown future.
I’m not gonna comment on most of this but it says Enma-san in the Japanese (the English subtitles changed it to Emma), Enma is the king of hell who determines if you go to hell or heaven or something like that.
No offense, but I remember hearing that doctorine was a Japanese word/loan phrase meant to refer to female doctors. The old woman doctor on Drum Island from One Piece is called Doctorine for this reason.
Btw I’m pretty sure the doctor’s name is not Emma. The illustrator calls the doctor ドク which is read as doku which is prolly meant to be doc, but it could possibly be read as poison in Japanese
Only Niru can achieve this stylisg aesthetic atypical of the Vocaloid MV and not only that, his music is magnificent. Congratulations on those 3 years, Niru is one of my favorite Vocaloid producers and with songs like these you can see why. I hope to continue supporting in the future.
NO CREATE NO LIFE
NO NIRU KAJITSU NO LIFE
これからも収穫待ってます
*yes*
yes！yes！yes！
かっけぇ...
なんかすごい(語彙力)
絶望するしかない現実をカラフルポップなもので包んでどうにかしたみたいな感じ超好き
その表現すごい好き
神語彙。
表現すこですｯｯｯ
うわぁ好き
それこそカプセル剤みたいな感じですかね
苦い薬(現実)をオブラートのカプセル(ポップ)で包む、
いままで見てきた語彙の中であなたは一番ですおめでとうございます
「かっこいい」「かわいい」じゃなくて
「カッコイイ」「カワイイ」なの分かってくれる人います？
ああそうだね
ポップ感漂うというかわかります！その気持ち！
@@zinedinezethro9157 だよな？
@@宮沢賢治-k2q そうですそうです！
分かっていただけて嬉しいです笑
わかるぜよ
煮ル果実さんの曲に出てくる男女2人組みんなすこ
あぁっ❕自分はどちらとも女の子なのかと思ってました💦 1分19秒あたりの所がどちらとも女の子の服装だったもんで…😿
1:19
ドクトリーヌってドクトルの女性形なので、女性だと思います
@@タケミナ タメになるマジレスありがとうございます…。
@@user-hg1nj3ne9c いえいえ
最近これといってハマっている曲がない自分 サビを聞いて
「これだよこれぇぇぇぁあああ」
と叫び散らす。
ここ日本ですよ。
@@ブラックペッパー君-c5z お、おう…
分かりますww
@@ブラックペッパー君-c5z 新時代のツッコミ(?)かな？
ここ日本やねーん
0:56スカートちゃんと押さえてるの好き笑
「すぐさま名医と囃し立て」「効かなくなったんなら即解雇」
「それがこの世の心理かつ永遠に蔓延る副作用」
ホップなリズムに合わせながら現代の物悲しさが歌われてるのがなんか好き
Bメロの「スレスレ」とか「ケ・セラ・セラ」とかのリズム感が最高で首ぶん回しすぎて取れた
どうか安らかに
成仏してクレメンス
死ぬには惜しい人だった…
共感で全力で頷いてたら私も取れちゃった
小学校の前並べとくは
ボカロPの個性80%で曲の個性が20%くらいの方はやっぱり多いけど、煮ル果実のボカロPとしての個性が20%で曲の個性が80％な感じがすごい好き。
似たり寄ったりな曲ばっかりじゃなくて、いろんな曲調でどこからか漂う煮ル果実感が最高なんだよなぁ……
すげぇわかる....それだわ....
すごい……ドンピシャすぎるコメントで感動してしまった……
他の何かに干渉されるわけでもなく、この曲はこの曲ってなっているのがとても刺さりますよね……
ただ、全部の曲に共通するのは「中毒性」ですよね。
激しく共感します😭😭💕
めちゃくちゃ分かります...
1:23〜1:30のシーン、
医者であろう主人公が歯科医に診られてるけど、
どれだけ色んな人を見てきて、その人のことははっきり把握してても
自分のことまでははっきりわからない、
みたいなことを表してそうでくっそエモい
英語の歌詞の中で同音意義で音を踏んでるのめちゃくちゃシビれた。かっこいい…
『そしたら呻吟しなくて済む
夜診 急診も無くて済む』の英語歌詞を訳し直していくと
↓
Then I won't get cought up in singing any more.
No more ambition, no more rapid progress.
○呻吟→(詩吟)→Singing
○夜診→野心→ambition
○急診→急進→rapid progress
○Catch up in(cought up in)で「他人の能力に劣らずついて行く、追いつく」だから訳し直すと
↓
『そしたら、もう競うように歌わなくて済む。野心も、進歩もなくて済む。』
全文訳し直してて楽しかったです！
この曲はもっと色んな意味が盛り込まれてそう……。(考察班よろしくお願いします〜👋)
それに気づいたあなたも凄い、、！
@@ankomoti8776 ただただ息抜きにやってみたら、煮ル果実さんの世界観にしびれた感じですヽ( ˙▽˙ )ﾉ
簡単に訳してみただけですがお褒めの言葉ありがとうございます♪( 'v' و(و "
知識を考察に全振りしてる謎ニキ大好き
@@user-ed9awa 愛をストレートに伝えるニキありがとね。（´ω`❤）
いまコメントしようと思ってたこと、先越された！(大嘘)
可愛いのにかっこいいのに可愛いのにエモい…😇
そして美しく鬱くしい
美しく鬱屈し(？)
つまり神😇
2:23「G.O ok para sa Nobel prize」
タガログ語で「G.Oはノーベル賞を受賞しました」(「ノーベル賞のG.OoK」の可能性有)
2:33 「side migmisiro ye mushonga」
ショナ語で「薬の副作用」
最後看護師さんの髪色と肌になってるの好きすぎる
1回目 釘付け
2回目 スクショ
3回目 歌詞見ながら
4回目 友達に共有
まじでそれなななな
まさに笑笑、共有したわ４回目で
コメント見ながらも追加で
カートゥーン系絵に煮ルさんの曲の組み合わせは最高
おだいじに「なぁ〜〜」ってなんか抜けていく感じすき……
この曲は今を表してたりしないかな……
1:49で
クラスター感染とクラスター爆弾を掛けてるのかな……なんて……
自分も今のご時世、特に最前線で戦ってる医療従事者の歌かなと思いました。仕事は大変だし、私生活でも気は抜けないし、ボーナスカットされたとこも多いという。しかし世間からの期待は重いし、ベストを尽くしても結果がともわなきゃ批判もされる。それで社会に絶望して腐ってしまった医者の歌かなと思いました。ドクトリーヌもドクトリン(教義、主義)のフランス語読みだし。途中の俺もヘビーユーザーのあたりは医者の不養生とかけた皮肉かな？
@@ドラゴンタヌキ
まぁすごい……
もうめちゃくちゃ説得力があります……
IQ300くらいありそう()
@@ドラゴンタヌキ 最近コロナに効く？感じの薬が出てきてるけどこれは失敗した世界線に見える...(語彙力)
流行る曲やアーティストと、それを見てる自分の歌なんじゃねえかなって・・・
ニコ動だと2:29がナースさんが起き上がってる絵になってますね…(ぜひニコ動も見てね)
RUclips版では蘇る(？)薬を使った時の副作用でゾンビのようになるということが分かる
ニコニコ版では寝込んでいた過去のナースにその薬を投与して(？)蘇った…？しかしゾンビになっていないから抗体みたいなのがあったのかもしれない…
どちらにも共通で主人公が薬を使っていると思われる描写があるけど、(2:37)主人公はゾンビにはならないけど肌が青くなってるから何かしらの反応があるのかもしれない…
っていうのをそこだけで考察してみたけどまだまだ考察の余地はありそう…
個人的な疑問
・最初に病室にナースがいて過去回想のようなところでもそこで寝てる(薬を使って起きた？にしてもニコ動では回想の時点で起きてるし…なぜ最初病室にいたのか…)
・ゲームみたいな描写が多いし、病室にもゲーム画面のようなものがある…(シュミレーションだったり、ナースの頭の中で作られたゲームだったり…？)
・なんでゾンビが2人を食べ、ドクターになったのか…
・なぜ最後にドクターの体の色、髪の色が変わったのか(長生きしなって言ってるし、薬が上手く作用した…？)
・なぜ最後に一緒にゾンビに食われたはずのナースがドクターの手を取っているのか
最初に生き返らせて不死身になったのがリヌちゃんで、ドクは多分元から兄弟だった?（髪の色が同じで、副作用で体の色と髪の色が変わった）
追いやられたドクをリヌが助けに来たってことかな
なるほど…
最初に薬を使われ助けられてたからこそリヌはドクを助けてるって考えられますもんね…
あと最後に一緒に食われてドクが元に戻ったのは、リヌが持っていた薬の副作用に対するの抗体？みたいなのが混ざったからとかなんですかね？
「なぜゲーム風なのか」は私はこの曲のようにゲームみたいだったら医者も看護師も生き返れるけど現実では生き返ることなんて出来ないから大切にしてほしいって意味なのかなと思いました。
1:45 ここでゲームみたいな画面になってますね。💊×10とかにも深い意味があるのでしょうか……
最高………………
生搾り煮ル果実200%新フレーバーじゃん…………
なましぼりにるかじつ...
こんなご時世だからこそ「お大事に/長生きに」という感じと軽快で痛快だけどどこか影のある感じが最高でした
0:46 くれくれくれくれがマジですき
2:33のニュースの文字
ショナ語で薬の副作用という意味らしいです
「✕よ」って書いて「おっけーよ」って読ませてるのすごくすき
概要欄？にも書いてあるように「✕よ」の読みはおっけーよではなくて、「ばってんよ」だと思います…！
いやもしかしたら実はおっけーよとも聞こえるように調教されてるのかも……？
あれずっと「ペケよ」だと思ってた
1:23 トラフィック・ジャムの小ネタが…
(ニコニコ動画版だと別の模様になってます)
トラフィック・ジャム多いよねぇ。
全部traffic jamですかね
しかもこのタイミングで歌詞に｢呻吟｣ってあるので
関係あるんですかね……
もしかしたら、起こった問題をテーマにした曲繋がりじゃないでしょうか？
きずかなかった……トラフィック兄弟推しなのでマジうれしい泣
1:22「死にたい」を「エンマさんに舌を引っこ抜いてもらいたい」としてるのかな？めちゃ好き。リズムも声も全てが自分の好きに刺さった…
何か現代の作者とユーザーの関係性を抽象的かつ的確に表現してる気がする。ゲーム制作会社に携わってる知り合いが「ユーザーは良くも悪くもモンスター」的な事を言ってたのを思い出しました。三周年おめでとうございます！今回も最高でした！！これからも応援してます！
うわぁぁぁぁ
I don’t normally comment theorizing on songs, but this one is just too good and there’s too few people talking about this one and I love it badly.
Anyways, something I never see talked about in detail is the flashback sequence at 2:22 , specifically about the doc in the part at 2:35 . Something about them being alone in the bathtub like that, and the way the nurse reaches her hand out at her along with the cut-ins of the medicine trays makes me really think that maybe the doc tried to off themself but the nurse saved them with the medicine? Although the nurse didn’t seem to be holding any pills in the shot where we can see the hand grab at the docs. But maybe the medicine and being brought back from death is why the doc has blue skin and are also immune to the zombies?
That part and the part of the song mentioning “I’m a heavy user” before the flashback sequence really makes me think a lot about that part like this. (Thank you for reading this ramble)
This is maybe a little late, but I just read your comment and wanted to say that I understood it the same way. I think the doc invented the medicine and was very loved and hyped for it, then it came out it had the side effect turning people zombie. Everyone hated them now and turned their backs so they commited suicide. But the nurse (maybe the sister bc of the same hair color as seen in the end) saved them by using the medicine to turn them zombie.
@@chookitypah8305 maybe not by turning him into a zombie, but rather to make him immune? Or maybe by saving him after trying to commit, he got immune by himself
Also, wanted to mention the fact that the boy isn't there in the beginning with the nurse. Just a detail for later
For the record I think it's worth commenting on how much the lyrics seem to be commenting on prescription medicine, with the chorus sounding like someone begging their doctor for them while insisting they don't have a problem and aren't addicted; and the song itself keeps talking about "being on the gray zone between legal and illegal".
Whatever is going on with the MV has to be some sort of analogy for these themes I think
Hello, just read the comment from Heaven Dope and I discovered something. Both of the character were dead but the nurse was already dead at the very beginning while the doctor died later.
1:23のシーンの歯医者さん、
天使の輪っかみたいに見える…
2:32 その「ข่าวด่วน」は「ニュース速報」という意味でしょうね
煮ルさんにはこれからも世の中を皮肉った曲沢山作ってもらいたい。トラックも言葉使いが独特すぎる歌詞も大好き。唯一無二。
煮ルさんの楽曲は、本当にいろんな果物混ぜ合わせた感じして、まさに煮ル果実って名前のイメージ通りだな
高評価2.8万で低評価80っていうのがこの作品の凄さを物語ってる
1:55の所RUclipsとニコニコ動画で違うのすごく好き
I love how there's audibly very little instruments used, yet the music never felt empty. It kinda makes every bit of the song stand out a bit more, and makes the silence after finishing the song a bit more unbearable than usual, lol.
there's just something in the way they use flower's voice that's so unique
煮ルさんの曲はリズム感が本当に良くて中毒性すごい。。
ゾンビ系薬物系の曲好きだ、、
「違法非合法スレスレの 承認の力」って言葉選びが刺さった
承認欲求のなんたるかみたいなのが一言に詰まっててすごい
認められる快感の為なら何でもできる人は多いし、逆に誰かに認められたい一心で空回って全部を駄目にする人もたくさん
効果も中毒性もえげつない
曲調かっこいいのにイラスト可愛くて感情の出し入れが狂う
最後の盛り上がり、めちゃくちゃ笑うつもりだったのになんか泣いてしまった 大好きな曲です！
イラストポップなのに歌詞がめっちゃかっこいいのすこ。
the nurse was saved because of the doctor's medicine. So she stick with them until the end.
この曲聞くと、現実逃避より現実に戻される感じがする
Romantic dinner? Nah.
Long walks on the beaches? Meh.
Parachuting with my lover off a building during a zombie apocalypse, as we question our own humanity and pursuit of meaning? THAT’S WHAT I’M TALKING ABOUT!! 💗
I thought they might be siblings because of the same hair color. 🤔😅
@@chookitypah8305I thought so too. It would also explain why the nurse seems desperate to save [Doctorine] initially, yet is not included earlier in the flashback. (If they were lovers, they would probably be shown celebrating together at the award ceremony)
最初に出てくる薬ぽよぽよしてて好き
過去最高ってくらい気怠げな歌い方で好きだ…
不死になる薬を作って最初は賞賛されていたのに問題ができた時にみんなが敵に変わる感じ…すごい闇を感じれて好きです😊
追記:たくさんのいいねありがとうございます考察みたいなの乗っけます、2:23 ここがモノクロなのは男の人の色が違かったから？かなと思ってます。ゾンビに食べられた後に色が戻ってるのは多分その薬の効果は処方した後に死ぬと人間にもどるのか？！と何回も聞いてるうちに( ﾟ∀ ﾟ)ﾊｯ！と思いついました。
追記:食べられる前色が変わらなかったのは死んだら完全体になること知らずに噛まれた後に薬をのんだから？
音楽方面の曲だと解釈しています
MVから歌詞からです
「すぐさま名医と囃し立て
効(聴)かんくなったんなら即解雇」
「逝くまで(音)楽ばっかやって生きてえ」
自分は音楽に生かされているけど
音楽を殺すのもまた自分自身なんだろう
と勝手に思いました
アイラブユーだか
アイヘイチューだか詰めた
甘い菓子(歌詞)
とかも皮肉効いてそうな感じありますよね
2:52
役と薬掛けてたりする………？
薬（ヤク）で長生きするってことはそういうことだと思います
一生ヤクばっかやって生きてえよな
煮ル果実さんがTwitterで言ってましたが、MVに出てくるキャラの医者の名前がドクで看護師さんの名前がリヌだそうです！
くれくれくれも好きだけど
0:31 からのリズムが好きすぎてこの興奮どうしよう
「夜診も休診もなくて済む」
まさに現在の医療関係者の心境…医療関係者の方、ありがとうございます(ﾉ_ _)ﾉ
人間の声じゃないからこそいい感が自分にはある…
考察ってほどでもないけど、この曲今の現状を歌ってるのかと思った。命をかけてひとの命を救おうとしてるのに、医療関係者への、差別とか、政府が全然有効な対策をせずにほったらかしにしてることとかを歌ってるように聞こえました。私にはそれくらいしか考察できなかったけど、いろいろな解釈が、コメ欄にあって面白かったです。曲素晴らしかったです！
煮ルさんが活動している世界線にいれて本当に幸せだ…3周年本当におめでとうございます
イントロから全部好き【定期】
音楽関係のムービーとかドクターとか菓子とかヘビーユーザーとか考察のしがいがありそうですね
1おめ
NILFRUITS is really out here... starting the year with absolute bops and the best PVs........ and with english translations too! We love to see it, thank you for carrying the whole vocaloid community on your shoulders 🍉💪
There’s English translations?
@@jellyfishfields4622 Check the description.
@@dnxp3976 Oh wow, the one time I didn’t check. -_- Thanks!
the news line text at 2:33 is in shona, a language spoken in zimbabwe. it translates to “side effects of the drug”
leads me to think that the “medicine” shown in the video is something that was meant to bring the dead back to life, but turns them into zombies instead. the doctor was responsible for the invention of the medication, so he caught all the backlash when things started going wrong. as shown in the flashback scene, this led him to suicide. however, the nurse used the medication on him to bring him back, hence why his skin is blue and he’s portrayed as a zombie.
Doctorine……？確かに「主義」って感じする
更に歌詞とストーリーからして、またこの流れになる感じ、「教義」もわかる。そして、最後の様子からDoctor rine（ドクター輪廻）ってことかもしれない？
中毒性のある曲を提供する医者(作曲者)とそれに群がる患者(リスナー)
医者も名誉の中毒者っていう解釈が個人的にしっくり来た
今更すぎるけど…一番初めのイントロのMV、
形がカタカナの「ドクトリーヌ」になってんだ…
すげえ…（語彙力）
The doctor character is very attractive and I like them a lot.
I like the impression that "お大事にな" is speaking to the patient, and "長生きしな" is directly speaking to the "Doctorine."
毎度のことながら韻踏み天才すぎる。すぐさま名医と囃し立てるようなコメントに見えるかもしれないが、今後もわたしはヘビーユーザーです。もう戻れません。
I posted this as an answer to a thread but figured I should post an independent comment to my theory too:
1) Doctor and Nurse's relationship (let's call the Nurse Rinu)
- There's a theory of them being siblings/twin and I want to debunk that
+ While they share same hair color (and to a lesser extent, skin color) at the end. Their eyes is the biggest against this theory, Rinu has big eyes with green iris while Doctor has very edge eyes with orange iris. You would think if they are sibling, their eyes would share common design at least.
+ In the illustration design vid (here: m.ruclips.net/video/-TscYNfgMbA/видео.html&t ) Doctor went through so many designs, and most of them look very different from each other. While Rinu has been consistently being the same design. That's for me is the indication that there's no intention from the creators of the vid to design Rinu and Doctor as siblings/twin.
+ In the flashback at 1:16 , it shows a young Doctor holding hands with who presumed to be their parents. If they are siblings/twin, you would think Rinu would be in the flashback picture of Doctor's family too.
- In the Nico version with two exclusive scenes of that version of Rinu. The first one is she woke up from her hospital bed, assumingly, cured from her "disease" by the Doctor. The next one is she wandering the street with a totally different clothing that isn't a nurse clothing, goggles and brown clothing. It depicted she's looking at the crowd of people and immediately in the next scene, it's the Doctor being forcibly interview by tabloids. That's the moment she found out about the news of Doctor being blamed for the "apocalypses". There's a clear time gap between she went from a patient to a wandering civilian to a nurse showing up to assist the Doctor. It's even likely that she learn to become a nurse (not a nurse before becoming a patient) to help the Doctor after finding out about the blaming news. Cause she was saved by the Doctor and want to repay him.
Bonus point: I think Doctor's final design aka the canon one is meant to be androgynous with no specified gender to represent all doctors as of course both men and women work in the field. Doctor went through a lot of redesigns in the design illustration vid, both very male and female looking. The final design is meant that Doctor is androgynous and that's just the Doctor, no label needed.
Though... Doctor's name might be Emma due to lyrics...And the line "So, put my tongue out. Mr. Emma" hint at the Doctor being male so now this is just a confusing topic. I chose to believe the androgynous more though.
2) Doctor is NOT the Apocalypses starter (Analyzing the flashbacks)
- The title of the song: "Doctorine". It's a pun combining the word "Doctor" and "doctrine". The word "doctrine" means "a statement of fundamental government policy" or "a military principle or set of strategies". It sound suspiciously like Doctor is the scapegoat for the blame here and the government is the one who caused the apocalypses. I mean there are definitely the presence of the government and military in the MV: Helicopter dropping "pills" (aka bombs), the three people holding protest sign and TV News tabloids interviewing Doctor and the TV tagline blaming Doctor to be the one who cause it. "Side migumisiro yemushonga", the tagline on the news, translated to "side effects of the drug" in Shona Language.
- The "orange" pills and the "syringe". Doctor was never depicted with a pill imagery. While the government did with the helicopter dropping "pills". Looking at the flashback sequence of how things transpire again. The patients lying down on the bed with a grieving family member by their side, then a syringe was injected into them and they woke up. The doctor's drug cure is the syringe, not the pills, which are heavily hinted to the cause of the "apocalypses".
- Then why did seemingly, only Doctor's patients became zombies? It's because of the orange pills. It's very likely that the "orange pills" affect the patient's post-cure body and disease to cause them to become zombies.
- But then where did the "orange pills" come from and why did the patient take it instead of Doctor's syringe cure? Here's the lyrics: "The crowd over-hype it as a great doctor, and abandon it instantly If they don’t need." The people immediately abandon Doctor's syringe cure after the patients are out of the hospital and went on to give the patients "orange pills" The "orange pills" are most likely something the government gave out. And it turned out badly, the government proceed to blame it all on the Doctor as a scapegoat.
- Why do you think the Doctor is not to blame? The existence of Rinu. Rinu was the Doctor's patient too and she was obviously cured from the diseases, but she never became a zombie. Which prove, the cure did work with no side effect. Rinu also didn't take the "orange pills" so more evidence to the fact that Doctor's cure works as intended and the "orange pills" are to blame.
- The zombies wears "orange" clothing. The "orange pills" are to link with the cause of zombie apocalypses, not the doctor's syringe cure. The imagery is enough said.
- What's the nature of the "orange pills"? From the line of "heavy user" and some addictive drug imagery, it really looked like those "orange pills" are "happy drug" that the government administrated. Very "We Happy Few" (the game) of dyspopia world. And those happy drug clashed with Doctor's patient's body post-hospital.
- Why do you think the "orange pills" are addictive drug? The Doctor, he went blue, could be said it's imagery to depression, but also can be an imagery to addiction. He clearly depressed after being blame as the cause of the apocalypses. He almost die in the bathtub even if Rinu wasn't there. It's possibly he took too much "orange pills" and became like that.
3) The Doctor and Rinu's process to help the zombies in the present day:
- It sure looked like Doctor and Rinu went gangster on killing zombies, but they actually aren't. It's a fun imagery of showcasing that the zombies are "challenge" (the game over screen has "challenge" as map name) that Doctor and Rinu are trying to tackle, don't take them shooting guns and canon seriously. But why do you think those imagery aren't literal? Well, if Doctor and Rinu are actively trying kill the zombies, why not just let the government bombed it all? Why did they need to go into "ground zero" and shoot them by handguns and canons? It's just stylized sequences to show that Doctor and Nurse are trying to tackle the zombie's problems head on.
- Not all zombies are mindless being, this is the intention of the funny Doctor/Rinu/Zombies hanging out. They are dancing with each other, playing video games, singing karaoke, taking selfie. Not all zombies are mindless beings and Doctor and Rinu are trying to show the world that. You can see all 3 of them holding signs to protest the government. Assumingly, protest the notions that all zombies should be bombed without an effort to cure them.
- The Doctor and Rinu seem to be immune to the zombie disease? Well, actually no. From what we theorized, the zombie don't transmit through biting and such. It's a drug problem. The zombies's behavior could be simply mindless violence outburst and decrease in intelligence from addictive drug. Not actual "zombies" that we know it in popular media.
- The zombie transmit is definitely not through bites because once again, looking at the scene where the kid hurting his family as zombies at 2:30 . None of his family members turned into zombie despite obviously being scratched and bite from kid zombie's violence outburst.
- The Doctor though, his body and health is possibly the lead to cure the zombie. His body turned blue from taking too much "orange pills". The "orange pills" we know that cause the apocalypses. It seem like Doctor is likely a half-zombie due to overtaking of the drug but without the side effect of the other zombie so if we examine his body, we might find the clue for the cure. The scene of a zombie examining the Doctor's mouth is to showcase that.
- The game over screen and their life going down is them keeping failing in their search for cure, to overcome the "challenge". It's a long and tedious process and they keep failing.
- At the near end, where the giant zombie pushed out his shell to reveal it's a giant Doctor. I think the scene to illustrate Doctor's inner turmoil and also his position. This is the scene where he burst out and want to scream after he once again fail in his path to search for the cure. The lyric said: "
Well, Goodbye “Doctorine". No one can compete with you. Please live with your role. Hope you live long enough." Then Doctor proceed to blast beam the city Godzilla style. They had gave up, they can't "compete" with the accusation that they are to blame as the cause of the apocalypse anymore. They accepted the "role" of one to be blamed and gave up. As he fell down onto the ground and fainted.
- But there's a glimmering of hope. At the end of the vid, Doctor's body is seemingly back to normal. His skin turned back from being blue. He's cured? And this maybe the breakthrough they need to help all the zombies out there. And once again, Rinu reached out to Doctor and Doctor took her hand. They stood up and continued walking toward the unknown future.
I’m not gonna comment on most of this but it says Enma-san in the Japanese (the English subtitles changed it to Emma), Enma is the king of hell who determines if you go to hell or heaven or something like that.
No offense, but I remember hearing that doctorine was a Japanese word/loan phrase meant to refer to female doctors. The old woman doctor on Drum Island from One Piece is called Doctorine for this reason.
@@amandadane868 I look and I can't find any definition for the word Doctorine in dictionary, even in Japanese.
@@AwesumVloggin And apparently parents tell their children that if they lie, Enma will pull out their tongue
Btw I’m pretty sure the doctor’s name is not Emma. The illustrator calls the doctor ドク which is read as doku which is prolly meant to be doc, but it could possibly be read as poison in Japanese
1:45色反転したらお互いの色になるの良すぎる🥲👏
中毒性で私はこの曲の(煮ルさんの)ヘビーユーザー
煮ル果実さんの曲で永遠ループ突入しなかったものなんてないリピートが止まらない
イントロくそやべえ
2:15
2番のサビ終わりの音、雰囲気が最高すぎる好きすぎる
歌詞全部好き
その中でも
｢舌を出してさエンマさんに
引っこ抜いて貰いたいわ
そしたら呻吟しなくて済む｣
ってとこと
｢いつまで効能持つかなって疑ってた
俺も今じゃヘビーユーザー｣ってとこが特に好き
いつもの果実にホラーテイストな音が混じってる〜〜〜！！！好き……
ドクターは患者を生き返らせたけどゾンビになる薬を作っちゃったのかなぁ…
やっぱflowerだよな……1番落ち着く……
3年前高校受験当日、この曲が投稿されてすごく嬉しかったし煮ルさんの曲で安心したなぁ
大学受験もよろしくお願いします🤦♀️
エンマに舌抜いてもらいたいってことは、嘘ついてるてことの暗喩なのかな
もう2度と偽って苦しみたくないって気持ちが垣間見える歌詞ですき
No idea whats going on, but its a banger
これは流行るわ
へんに中毒になる曲だぁ…
やっぱり私の世界1は煮ル果実さんです。あなたに出会えて本当に嬉しいです。
曲はもちろん凄すぎるんだけど、ずっとこんなに素晴らしい歌詞を描き続けられるって事がめちゃくちゃすごいと思う(語彙力)
ずっとこの世界観でいて欲しい
作られた曲のための曲だっていう考察読んでから、最後繰り返される 長生きしな、お大事にな っていう歌詞がすごく重く大事に感じるんだけど語彙力ないなやばいな
シンセっぽいベースも頗る心地いい。揺れるような上音も最高だし煮ル果実は音作りが本当に秀逸だと思う
なんだこの中毒にステータス全振りしたみたいな音楽は
実ル果実さんにしか、作り出せない世界観毎回作ってくるのほんとすこ
ナースとドクターがニッコニコで手繋いでるのすき
A A A. A I LOVE EVERYTHING
The art is so aesthetic and the song’s a bop
etten93 to be fair, I commented this a few seconds after upload lmao
この曲最初Musicの方で聴いてたからMV観たの初めてなんだけど見方が変わって面白いね
看護士さんがめっちゃカワ､､､絵柄が好きすぎる､､､
アメコミ感(？)ていうかカートゥーンな感じがしてめっちゃすこ
曲もだけどMVのクオリティ高くて好き
冒頭から心奪いにくる煮ル果実様流石すぎる
こういう感じのイラスト好き
お誕生日おめでとうございます！今回も最高です！
ほんとだ、誕生日やん！(調べた)
This artist has basically transcended vocaloid into a new category
うあ〜待ってました！！
CNのアニメみたいでめっちゃかわいいです…
ドクター達が1番大変なんだもんな。お大事に。
I have been listening to this for 3 days straight...
Update: I came back
Only Niru can achieve this stylisg aesthetic atypical of the Vocaloid MV and not only that, his music is magnificent.
Congratulations on those 3 years, Niru is one of my favorite Vocaloid producers and with songs like these you can see why.
I hope to continue supporting in the future.
きったきったやったー！！！！
なんかねぇ、最後肌の色が戻って、ナースともう一度手を取り合うとこ好きだと思います
うわっイントロからめちゃくちゃ好き....どう言えばいいか分からんけど煮ル果実さん感があるなって....
Pog, this song rad
It is just me that these two characters are cute and well designed? Oh, also the MV look like something from video games
I agree!
Yeah he's pretty good with his character designs
i’m pretty sure that the artist designs video game characters, their art is great!
the animator works on games they said in their twitter
@@skullcidd what game? 🤔🤔
なんでにほんのおんがくはいいんだよ！＾＾本土に大好き！！！！