I second that. On my 21 M340i xDrive I get up to 41mpg on the freeway and average 33-37mpg on my commute to work. Overall have averaged 31.2mpg since new. Have 44k on it now.
I have a 21 m340 and seriously thinking about tuning . Mind me asking , are you able to hook up from a dig with the extra power ? Also have you done a 0-60 run , if so what does it do it in ?
@@frankcastle1578 I'm on 275 Conti Extreme Contacts and I'm on the edge of traction. It's not that much more slippery than stock though TBH, it hooks pretty well. I just got a Dragy, haven't done a 0-60 yet. It's quicker than stock for sure.
The B58 is one of the best engines ever made. Finally, BMW with some input from Toyota has reliability too. What's not to like? Here in the UK we can get the Touring version with loads of space but the same dynamics. It'll do everything. Wonderful cars.
@@bmwblogbmw originally created the 1st generation B58 engine was in the f series cars (B58B30M0), before it was put in supras Toyota tested the engine and it didn’t fit certain standards. they then tweaked the engine which bmw now benefits from… Now all new gen B58s (B58B30O1) use the Toyota/BMW Tweaked engines and make reliable power and last a long time.. hope this helped
@XxICYxRAINxX why don't toyota give that same input to subaru/ Gr 86 engines. I heard they're blowing up, and toyota refused to honor the warranty. B58 was in production long before toyota used them in the supra.
95% of owners would do better with the 340i over the M3. Better ride for a daily driver and plenty fast. Unless you are a real hard charger, the 340 is a better choice for a daily than the M3.
The problem is that most people could probably be better served by a mid or large size SUV when it comes to daily driving than a M340i. I think that’s why sales of the 3 Series have declined over the past 10 years.
I daily my G80 actually had it since Christmas eve last year. had a 2021 540i previously that on my commute was getting around 29-30mpg. my G80 "on my commute" gets around 25mpg. factor in going to other drives, I'm around 23mpg for the G80 which is not bad at all consider that the 2014 F10 535i I had avg about the same mpg. I also don't find the ride to be that harsh tbh. also even with the MP front lip, it actually has higher clearance than my 540i with the MP style lip.
I have owned the 2023 M340i for one year now. I totally agree with your review. One thing about the ride and suspension: I highly recommend you add the adaptive suspension to your car. I don't know what suspension package you had on this car.
I recently bought the 2023 m340i and having a blast with the car, it has plenty of power to ride on normal roads, super smooth handling and the interior is very nice. Coming from a 2014 lexus is350 this car is awsome and a neck breaker.
The M cars shine on the track. You’re not going to be able to make the M340 both as fast and reliable as the M3 for less than the cost of the M3 over the long term.
The Buttons removal in EVERY BMW is just disgusting and Makes NO Sens. It's Infuriating how they went Away from the Ergonomics that was Characteristic of their Brand. It's Not even Safe At All. it just piss me off....
Yep, it's dumb but it doesn't really bother me that much anymore. I'm actually more annoyed buy those fake vacuum cleaner tail pipe tips... wtf said that looked good lol. Give me real tail pipes or give me... an ev?
As a 2024 M440i gran coupe owner I agree 100%. I wish I had found a prior year model with the previous interior with real buttons. I don’t love the big screens one bit and the fake exhaust is a letdown. Wish I had found the right Audi S5 Sportback….
coming from the G30 540i LCI to the G80, I agree. BUT I don't find myself adjusting the air speed that often with the new car. overall hvac system is smarter than the old.
@@bmwblog I was about to make a comment how you praise practicality, but you still don't get a chance to try the best shape, which is wagon (estate) like we do here in Europe. We still love wagons so much, that some very famous cars are now only released in that form, so basically you can pick up SUV or wagon. Which makes much more sense than choosing between SUV/crossover and sedan (hatchback). I consider this car as best all rounder in it's category with estate body and market confirms that. Only downside is that they are quite pricey over here.
Nice review. And wow, the BMW crowd is a different breed. Reading the comments it seems some BMW enthusiasts resent the very existence of this car, as if it somehow takes something away from their beloved status as an M car owner/enthusiast.
Why can’t they put the manual from the z4 into this. That would be fire. As it stands the i4 is a better daily driver but a manual would differentiate the 340.
These modern B58 BMWs are something else, honestly. The infotainment and lack of buttons is a dealbreaker though. You use those functions every time you’re in the car and it’s literally not safe to hide base functions between touch screen presses. That department of BMW are either stupid or being forced to follow this new ethos.
It's not that big of a deal. I rarely use any of the buttons in my 2022 M850 vs the touchscreen in my 2023 M340. The climate menu is right there on the idrive 8 to turn on heated seats and etc. What exactly are you needing to constantly change while driving?
@@PlayafromtheHimalayas I change the temperature a lot, as well as seat heating and air direction. Maybe I’m just a bit fussy over ambient temperature but in the G30 5er that I drive almost everyday, the buttons are just part of my muscle memory
@@UCZ15 I rarely change the temp as it self regulates like a home thermostat. But the temp controls for idrive 8 are on each side of the screen. No more press requirements than if you have the physical button.
Most if not all of those buttons and switchgear used to be made in Ukraine for export to German carmakers. Buttons and switchgears became hard to come by after the war started there two years ago.
I have a 24 440, and on a good day, with the wind behind me, going downhill, in eco slug mode at 71 mph, I'm hard-pressed to get over 30 ( based on 100-200 straight highway) MPG wasn't the main interest, There's no way in hell the 440 would get close to 41mpg. I have about 15k since new, and the average since new is about 25-26mpg.
Just bought one of these in the UK as touring to replace my previous generation 330D estate, absolutely loving it. After 2k miles seen 37mpg+ on longer journeys though typically mid-20s in the city. Only thing I'd love to change is lack of physical heater controls, not offering green as a colour option (bar exclusive colour at £3k+ and big wait) and if Apple CarPlay didn't need the whole screen and put Waze directions on the instrument panel. And if lottery numbers came up would be in the queue for an Alpina B3 Touring, enjoy these cars while we can
I guess it is cost saving. But if 10-20% of buyers opt out because of the dash-design and lack of buttons then they are not saving anything? Also the gauge cluster should have a separate housing to separate certain functions from Media. And it looks more sporty.
the mild Hybrid is a great concept, but that is going to badly hurt the B58s reliability. I heard the new version nis already having massive reliability issues.
I have iDrive 8 in my BMW i4. It's mostly fine, but the thing I miss the most are physical radio preset buttons. I have them on my 2018 Audi S4 and it makes flipping between channels a breeze. The voice commands in the BMW work pretty okay, but way too laggy for satellite radio channel flipping. I don't mind the climate controls so much in iDrive 8 since I usually just set the fans in Auto. Moving the temperature on the screen works reasonably well, though still a far cry from the rotating temperature knobs on the Audi. Despite those quibbles, I might well buy an M340i xDrive when the S4 hits its use-by date.
Great review!! I am going to check it out this week! Red with tan interior. I have a red with tan 2series coupe. Ready for something bigger but keeping the sporty look! Gorgeous car! Congrats!
I have a tuned 2020 m340 Honestly if you want a m340 than you care about performance and while it's a very quick car, we always want more Most m340 drivers will tune it If i didn't care about specs i would get a 330
I'm sick of this 'everything in the screen' no buttons nonsense. There needs to be regulations requiring physical buttons for climate adjustment and volume since automakers are just doing this to appease the Chinese market.
3-5 taps is better than 1 press of a button or turn of a dial? It’s a safety issue. Tactile feel is better to operate when driving. It’s not progression, it’s regression.
Pretty good review champ. I have been considering one of these for a while to replace my 2020 M2 Competition. I usually get a new car every 4 years or so but I still love the M2 so I’m still under-sided. I’ve had 2 M3’s in the past and a Mercedes C-63 but the M2 in my view is the better drivers car, whilst being a little harsh on poor roads. I don’t like the look of the new M2 so that’s off the list and then of course is the current M3/4 front.
Just a correction about the mild hybrid motor - its not in the transmission, its attached by belt drive in the engine bay. You're describing the PHEV motor setup.
@@bmwblog IMO its a bad design. Starter motors have always used tooth or direct drive onto the crank, not belts for a good reason and that reason hasn't gone away. Having a starter generator that could potentially restart the engine dozens or hundreds of times on a long trip is just asking for a sudden belt break and wrecked engine 10 years down the line.
I dont know what you mean that" it doesnt get the credit that it deserves", but this has been my wish for my next car. Though personally I'd end up tuning it to get it more "fruity" as they'd say lmao. but yeah its the best of all worlds, fast, daily, comfortable, "cheap" not cheap but cheaper than an M3, BETTER GRILL lmao
I looked at a 2021 model and loved so many things about this car. However there were a few things i really didn't like too, like the fake exhausts, lack of standard spec when buying 2nd hand, and weak sounding stock exhaust.
I found the steering to be really lousy in this car, VSS was not predicable the way it loads in the corners, unlike the M2 and M3. The exterior is great though, hate idrive 8.
@@bmwblog I just prefer the old days when all BMW's had great steering. I must be getting old, but the other brands do a much better job at making steering more direct and natural. A base Macan with a 4 cylinder comes to mind. The X3M40 to me has a much more natural and direct feeling rack, then the current M340.
I was considering one a few months ago when I was car shopping - problem is the car would have been $63k the way I wanted and that is serious coin for a non M3 3 series.
This new interior design look like designers work hard until the release day, but they have a delay and throw that big tablet to finish the job on time
I can answer for Sean since I drove the E92 M3. They handle differently. The m340i might be the faster car, but there is something special about the E92 M3 with a naturally aspirated engine. I would take the E92
One thing is for sure, B58 again sounds much nicer than the M3/M4. The previous gen S55 in the M3/4 sounded grotesque, and the latest motor still sounds too raspy.
Hey amigo, genuine question. I test drove the 2024 M340($55k) and 2017 M3($45K) and 2018($55K, the LCI bumps it up). The m340 is much nicer with the wrapped screen on the inside, however, from drive perspective and cost perspective, what would you rather the less expensive older M3?
G80 owner here- buy the g80. I don't daily it at all but definitely could be easily. Rides just fine in comfort settings. If you cannot afford M3 go with 440 or best you can afford.
There is no doubt that the M340i is a fantastic car, but people who looking at them should cross shop with the Giula 2.0 AND a 1-2 year old Giulia Quadrifoglio. Both have a much better steering rack and chassis tuning. The 2.0 will provide more efficiency and in my opinion, more fun around town. It's not until you get to winding country roads that the M340i's more powerful B58 might be enough of an advantage to edge out the Giulia 2.0's better handling and driving feel. And even then, it's tough to use the 382hp in the M340i to fullest extent without losing your license. If you want more performance, but don't want to spend M3 money and still want comfort for longer drives, the Giulia Quadrifoglio will check those boxes and then some. A 2 year old car with 2 years of warranty left will be about the same price or even cheaper than a fully loaded M340i. The Quadrifoglio competes with the M3, and even though it was released in 2017, it's still rated higher than the newer G80 in most serious reviews. But the amazing thing about the Quadrifoglio is in its Advanced or Natural settings, it rides softer than an M340i with M-Sport suspension, and will even be a bit softer than an M340i with Adaptive Suspension set to soft. But throw the QV in race mode, and it's more engaging than an M3. Subjectively, either version of the Giulia looks much better than the M340i, and both are far more unique. You will get questions about your car every time you park or get gas. You will look back at it every time you park. They are just fantastic cars.
Great car but I've heard the 2024 auto stop-start function can't be manually disabled. It's Off in Sport Mode but On in Comfort. I'm not sure I'd want a car that turns itself off at every stoplight. A minor detail admittedly, but one that could be annoying and frustrating.
All X-drive cars tend to undesrteer and I hate it - nothing like a typical BMW handling although it gives you better traction especially when the car is tuned.
Can the 340 idrive be upgraded to 8.5, etc? I know my 24 440 can't. The coast you refer to isn't fully engaged, if engaged at all, when using distance keeping /driver assist on., even in ecoslug mode.
@@bmwblog Yeah there are some things that BMW has definitely adopted "don't ask, don't tell" attitude. 8.0 was written by a group of programmers in a back room that were using Windows 3.0 as a navigation model
I have a genuine question! What is faster this or a Tesla 3 I recently rented a 2024 330i and a 2020 or 2022 Tesla 3 and I was shocked that the Tesla was that fast! Which car would be better for me to get if I’m looking for the faster car?
Dont get me wrong it is a decent car. But it seems like every car company is copying tesla for design now. The large screen, the more quiet exhaust system and hybrid bs that really just makes the car like an EV.
It's the same thing as the e9x generation, the 3 series can be faster than the M. But at the end of the day it's not an M, some people care, some (myself included) don't gaf.
This is why I defend the M lite cars. They are needed. I don't care if the M brand is diluted. Not everyone wants a stiff and very sporty ride for every day driving.
I would have a few objections: 1) Did you notice how rough and miserable leather there is on the seats? 2) the screen in front of the driver is awful, the graphics of the dials even worse as it does not remind anything used in cars. BMW promised to correct it, unfortunately never did. 3) The faff with climate control was mentioned in the video. Not only is it uncomfortable, it's DANGEROUS, which isn't off a brand like BMW who build up their reputation on safety 4) 10 quick physical shortcuts buttons (those above former climate control) are gone as well 5) the seats are stiff, most of the stiffness can probably be attributed to the miserable and rough leather which doesn't remind anything used in 5er models or higher 6) iDrive buttons' feedback is gone due to those micro touch buttons used instead of real buttons in the previous models 7) door bins aren't lined with felt, so anything you put in there rattles about. Horrible. A problem being present at least in 5er and 6er series too. Embarrassing for such a premium brand and for the price tag. Humble VW Golf has got it! 👎 8) mild hybrid is too complicated and it's another thing which may break down. Added (alleged) efficiency isn't worth it I would recommend everyone buy a used pre-facelift model which covers most of the criticism above.
I used to love BMWs and owned a few over the years but i think they have lost there way - design and ergonomics are dreadful and the drive is soulless. They used to be the ultimate driving machine - sadly no longer
Este mismo modelo a tenido un cara a cara en aceleración con un honda Civic y lo que a echo es el ridículo la gran diferencia de potencia de uno a otro y el Civic lo mantenía en las salidas desde parados asta el punto que el Civic adelantaba lentamente pero lo adelantaba 😅😅😅 con la mitad de motor 😮😮😮😮 no le vi lógica pero ay está soy un fanático de BMW pero tengo que decir que desde el 2010 para Lante sus modelos son como todos y ahora con casi todo controlado por electrónica yo les llamo ya no coche si no jodidos ordenadores con ruedas y todos son iguales no solo BMW todas las marcas entras en eso y te encuentras con una jodida pantalla donde tendras que estar mirando para cualquier cosa pura basura y por diseños son todos iguales también asta que no están al lado tuyo ya no sabes si es un Mercedes Audi Hyundai Skoda BMW ect asta que ves su insignia
G80 M3 is very capable as daily driver comparable to M340i, if you like spirited driving over country roads and mountain passes, if you can afford it, get M3....
If you really can't afford a true M.. then yeah you get this car. But let's not get mistaken.. they just put the m340i badge on a 330i that your grandma drives and tune the engine a little more. The car looks terrible on the outside! Doesn't have the grill, wide body, bigger tires of the M3!! The M badge should not even be on this car, just call it a 340i. All of those things plus a lot more is what you get when you buy an M and what makes an M an M car! Also, if you worried about gas mileage don't get an M car. Stick to your average bmws. Real drivers and real car enthusiasts know what I'm talking about. I went from a 2018 M2 daily driver to a 2023 M3 Competition X Drive daily driver.. my buddy has a 340i, can't imagine if I had to drive that chick car everyday lol
@@bmwblog because they put some M sideview caps on it? That's about it. inside same, outside same.. same tires, same body style, only difference is 3.0 motor compared to a 2.0 in the 330i. You can get a 330i with the m sport package and shadowline trim and it looks just like a m340i. Huge difference in looks and performance between the M3 and M340i, not sure why your debating this.
@@mholmes9262 you do realize, when they are comparing the 340i to the M3 the engines are Waaaaaay different and the entire outside body is different? The cars don't even look the same, the 330i and 340i you can only tell when you drive the car or pop the hood
@@jaes8173 The comment I replied to said the M340i and 330i were the same car with different tunes, that's all I was responding to and it had nothing to do with the M3. And yeah I do realize the differences. B48, B58, S58, completely different suspension, additional chassis reinforcements and different body panels on the M3... Let's not get ahead of ourselves.
Ive driven both and sorry this is nothing compared to an m3 xdrive they are miles appart. If you ha ent spent time in an m3, then this 340i will impress you.
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I recently logged a 211 mile trip, freeway average 72mph, 40.1 mpg. I have a 2022 RWD and love it. Its a Swiss army knife.
Few weeks back did a 400 miles trip with 39 mpg on xdrive, for short trips my record is 50mpg over course of 25 miles.
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I second that. On my 21 M340i xDrive I get up to 41mpg on the freeway and average 33-37mpg on my commute to work. Overall have averaged 31.2mpg since new. Have 44k on it now.
Are you using driver assist to set speed ?
@@craighermle7727 i do use ACC, but for predefined speed, dont like to use the speed set based on traffic signs.
I have a RWD stage 2 (500+hp) M340i and easily pull 36-37mpg on the highway in comfort. It's amazing.
😋😛😋🤤🤤🤤
I have a 21 m340 and seriously thinking about tuning . Mind me asking , are you able to hook up from a dig with the extra power ?
Also have you done a 0-60 run , if so what does it do it in ?
@@frankcastle1578 I'm on 275 Conti Extreme Contacts and I'm on the edge of traction. It's not that much more slippery than stock though TBH, it hooks pretty well. I just got a Dragy, haven't done a 0-60 yet. It's quicker than stock for sure.
@@embiggens1nice ! I’m thinking you should be able to run it in then mid 3.5 - 3.8 if you get a good launch . 😊
How are you hitting 500+ with a stage 2?
Hey that’s me! Thanks for letting me review that car, I absolutely loved it!
Any time!
The B58 is one of the best engines ever made. Finally, BMW with some input from Toyota has reliability too. What's not to like? Here in the UK we can get the Touring version with loads of space but the same dynamics. It'll do everything. Wonderful cars.
How did they get input from Toyota for the B58?
@@bmwblogbmw originally created the 1st generation B58 engine was in the f series cars (B58B30M0), before it was put in supras Toyota tested the engine and it didn’t fit certain standards. they then tweaked the engine which bmw now benefits from… Now all new gen B58s (B58B30O1) use the Toyota/BMW Tweaked engines and make reliable power and last a long time.. hope this helped
@XxICYxRAINxX stop spreading rumors for facts.
@@drone1028 sorry bro I’m actually a BMW tech and I was just joshin…
Fuel pump… HFP is the difference between new and old prior 2020 B58’s 😭😭
@XxICYxRAINxX why don't toyota give that same input to subaru/ Gr 86 engines. I heard they're blowing up, and toyota refused to honor the warranty. B58 was in production long before toyota used them in the supra.
95% of owners would do better with the 340i over the M3. Better ride for a daily driver and plenty fast. Unless you are a real hard charger, the 340 is a better choice for a daily than the M3.
The problem is that most people could probably be better served by a mid or large size SUV when it comes to daily driving than a M340i. I think that’s why sales of the 3 Series have declined over the past 10 years.
@@Polo08816Where did you get your info. from? This has been their best selling segment for this generation.
@@Polo08816you’re not responding to the question!
I daily my G80 actually had it since Christmas eve last year. had a 2021 540i previously that on my commute was getting around 29-30mpg. my G80 "on my commute" gets around 25mpg. factor in going to other drives, I'm around 23mpg for the G80 which is not bad at all consider that the 2014 F10 535i I had avg about the same mpg. I also don't find the ride to be that harsh tbh. also even with the MP front lip, it actually has higher clearance than my 540i with the MP style lip.
@@FrankW1029how many miles a month/ year do you do?
I have owned the 2023 M340i for one year now. I totally agree with your review. One thing about the ride and suspension: I highly recommend you add the adaptive suspension to your car. I don't know what suspension package you had on this car.
I think this one had the adaptive. The Sports Suspension is still a bit too harsh
I recently bought the 2023 m340i and having a blast with the car, it has plenty of power to ride on normal roads, super smooth handling and the interior is very nice. Coming from a 2014 lexus is350 this car is awsome and a neck breaker.
Picked up mine 2 months ago a 2024 in Dravit grey.. Love it one of the better cars I've owned in a long time and it sounds awesome ..Good review
Good choice!
Have had mine for a little over a year, love it. Good balance of power and fuel economy
Have the pre LCI 2020 model and absolutely love it. Particularly the use of buttons.
Idrive 7 FTW
honestly these m40i models are crazy quick, makes the m almost redundant
Yes, but there is alway something extra spicy about M cars
@bmwblog my friend just got the g80 M3, I've driven the m440i and was a beast. So that M3 must be neck breaking
It is.No doubt
The M cars shine on the track. You’re not going to be able to make the M340 both as fast and reliable as the M3 for less than the cost of the M3 over the long term.
@@gilsonwilson5935For real neck breaking I recommend the i4 M50
The Buttons removal in EVERY BMW is just disgusting and Makes NO Sens.
It's Infuriating how they went Away from the Ergonomics that was Characteristic of their Brand.
It's Not even Safe At All. it just piss me off....
Yep, it's dumb but it doesn't really bother me that much anymore. I'm actually more annoyed buy those fake vacuum cleaner tail pipe tips... wtf said that looked good lol. Give me real tail pipes or give me... an ev?
As a 2024 M440i gran coupe owner I agree 100%. I wish I had found a prior year model with the previous interior with real buttons. I don’t love the big screens one bit and the fake exhaust is a letdown. Wish I had found the right Audi S5 Sportback….
coming from the G30 540i LCI to the G80, I agree. BUT I don't find myself adjusting the air speed that often with the new car. overall hvac system is smarter than the old.
they should make it an option to have screen controls vs traditional dials
It's cost effective to remove all those buttons unfortunately
Coasting mode has been in BMWs for over 10 years. And the engine does not turn off it just goes to idle mode.
Too bad Bmw didn’t offer touring version with B58 here in the U.S. I’d take that over SUV any day.
The M340d touring is even better :)
@@bmwblog I was about to make a comment how you praise practicality, but you still don't get a chance to try the best shape, which is wagon (estate) like we do here in Europe. We still love wagons so much, that some very famous cars are now only released in that form, so basically you can pick up SUV or wagon. Which makes much more sense than choosing between SUV/crossover and sedan (hatchback). I consider this car as best all rounder in it's category with estate body and market confirms that. Only downside is that they are quite pricey over here.
I own the touring, its awesome❤
Nice review. And wow, the BMW crowd is a different breed. Reading the comments it seems some BMW enthusiasts resent the very existence of this car, as if it somehow takes something away from their beloved status as an M car owner/enthusiast.
Agreed. It's just an option. Not everyone wants a full M.
Why can’t they put the manual from the z4 into this. That would be fire. As it stands the i4 is a better daily driver but a manual would differentiate the 340.
Preaching to the choir
100% agree. Sadly, we are a couple of the very few people who would actually buy one.
Engine and exterior are good. What I am shock at is with this interior. Wide dash screen and less real AC buttons? Really? *shaking head*.
If you are a BMW guy you know about the m340i's is a way better purchase than a M3
These modern B58 BMWs are something else, honestly. The infotainment and lack of buttons is a dealbreaker though. You use those functions every time you’re in the car and it’s literally not safe to hide base functions between touch screen presses. That department of BMW are either stupid or being forced to follow this new ethos.
It's not that big of a deal. I rarely use any of the buttons in my 2022 M850 vs the touchscreen in my 2023 M340. The climate menu is right there on the idrive 8 to turn on heated seats and etc. What exactly are you needing to constantly change while driving?
@@PlayafromtheHimalayas I change the temperature a lot, as well as seat heating and air direction. Maybe I’m just a bit fussy over ambient temperature but in the G30 5er that I drive almost everyday, the buttons are just part of my muscle memory
@@UCZ15 I rarely change the temp as it self regulates like a home thermostat. But the temp controls for idrive 8 are on each side of the screen. No more press requirements than if you have the physical button.
Most if not all of those buttons and switchgear used to be made in Ukraine for export to German carmakers. Buttons and switchgears became hard to come by after the war started there two years ago.
I'd take an M340i any day!! Even though right now im in an 2017 X5 xDrive35i with MPPK and MPE. Sounds almost as good as the M340i lol
Have not seen an X5 like that in a while. Quite rare
Lots of additional weight you're moving around in your X5. 🤔
I have a 24 440, and on a good day, with the wind behind me, going downhill, in eco slug mode at 71 mph, I'm hard-pressed to get over 30 ( based on 100-200 straight highway) MPG wasn't the main interest, There's no way in hell the 440 would get close to 41mpg. I have about 15k since new, and the average since new is about 25-26mpg.
B58 is top class engine. But M3 is always M3
Just bought one of these in the UK as touring to replace my previous generation 330D estate, absolutely loving it. After 2k miles seen 37mpg+ on longer journeys though typically mid-20s in the city. Only thing I'd love to change is lack of physical heater controls, not offering green as a colour option (bar exclusive colour at £3k+ and big wait) and if Apple CarPlay didn't need the whole screen and put Waze directions on the instrument panel. And if lottery numbers came up would be in the queue for an Alpina B3 Touring, enjoy these cars while we can
That ALPINA B3 is a grail :) Amazing car
I had a 2020 m340 XDrive and I loved it. I have moved on to a 2023 X5MC 😊
My regrets!
Great video - thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Believe me a G80 M3 is a different level in everyway.
I had to get the M340i cos the carbon cod piece in the M3 would get I'm the way of my wang.
@@biddyboy1570 I took the sports seats because my shoulders would not fit in the buckets. And my Wang is considerably bigger than yours😃
@@geoffbullock8280 eh, you know what girls say about guys with big shoulders.
Yeah, slower 0-60
@@xXTrYhArrdXx 0-60 in 2.9 for standard m3 comp xdrive.
This guy's quite unhurried & sluggish, but he gets the job done and gives some of the 'you're in the car with me' and is detailed.
It's Sean's first video.I think he did great. It looks easier than it is
Thanks!
They need to put back the manual controls for everything other than the idrive and audio system. Having everything on a touchscreen is just dangerous!
I guess it is cost saving. But if 10-20% of buyers opt out because of the dash-design and lack of buttons then they are not saving anything?
Also the gauge cluster should have a separate housing to separate certain functions from Media. And it looks more sporty.
Car companies are not listening to the buttons issues
the mild Hybrid is a great concept, but that is going to badly hurt the B58s reliability. I heard the new version nis already having massive reliability issues.
I wonder why would it hurt though
I have iDrive 8 in my BMW i4. It's mostly fine, but the thing I miss the most are physical radio preset buttons. I have them on my 2018 Audi S4 and it makes flipping between channels a breeze. The voice commands in the BMW work pretty okay, but way too laggy for satellite radio channel flipping. I don't mind the climate controls so much in iDrive 8 since I usually just set the fans in Auto. Moving the temperature on the screen works reasonably well, though still a far cry from the rotating temperature knobs on the Audi. Despite those quibbles, I might well buy an M340i xDrive when the S4 hits its use-by date.
Get a pre lci m340, idrive 8 is a huge step backwards from 7.
I have 22’ 330i & I want a m3 competition but like u know the price LOL & BAM who knew I actually WANT AND WILL HAVE M340i ❤️😍😍😍😍
Great review!! I am going to check it out this week! Red with tan interior. I have a red with tan 2series coupe. Ready for something bigger but keeping the sporty look! Gorgeous car! Congrats!
Good choice!
Id lean towards the M2 for the manual transmission.
I have a tuned 2020 m340
Honestly if you want a m340 than you care about performance and while it's a very quick car, we always want more
Most m340 drivers will tune it
If i didn't care about specs i would get a 330
Do these have a capacity touch steering wheel if you opt for the driver assistance stuff?
Best car I’ve ever owned
Congrats
I'm sick of this 'everything in the screen' no buttons nonsense. There needs to be regulations requiring physical buttons for climate adjustment and volume since automakers are just doing this to appease the Chinese market.
Why you making it sound so bad. My m340i is all screen and love it. Amazing to touch
3-5 taps is better than 1 press of a button or turn of a dial? It’s a safety issue. Tactile feel is better to operate when driving. It’s not progression, it’s regression.
@@schooloftonyhumphries2647 poor you 🙄
@bestcrazyboy8487 it's not about me😆
Pretty good review champ. I have been considering one of these for a while to replace my 2020 M2 Competition. I usually get a new car every 4 years or so but I still love the M2 so I’m still under-sided. I’ve had 2 M3’s in the past and a Mercedes C-63 but the M2 in my view is the better drivers car, whilst being a little harsh on poor roads. I don’t like the look of the new M2 so that’s off the list and then of course is the current M3/4 front.
Glad I could help
Just a correction about the mild hybrid motor - its not in the transmission, its attached by belt drive in the engine bay. You're describing the PHEV motor setup.
True. Our fault
@@bmwblog IMO its a bad design. Starter motors have always used tooth or direct drive onto the crank, not belts for a good reason and that reason hasn't gone away. Having a starter generator that could potentially restart the engine dozens or hundreds of times on a long trip is just asking for a sudden belt break and wrecked engine 10 years down the line.
I dont know what you mean that" it doesnt get the credit that it deserves", but this has been my wish for my next car. Though personally I'd end up tuning it to get it more "fruity" as they'd say lmao. but yeah its the best of all worlds, fast, daily, comfortable, "cheap" not cheap but cheaper than an M3, BETTER GRILL lmao
0:01 AUA ! Der schlägt die Tür so heftig zu als sei es ein sperriges Scheunentor. Was für ein brutaler Grobmotoriger !
I looked at a 2021 model and loved so many things about this car. However there were a few things i really didn't like too, like the fake exhausts, lack of standard spec when buying 2nd hand, and weak sounding stock exhaust.
Are you in Europe? Because in the US, the exhaust is awesome
I found the steering to be really lousy in this car, VSS was not predicable the way it loads in the corners, unlike the M2 and M3. The exterior is great though, hate idrive 8.
Of course. The steering was supposed to be more numb. Softer. That was the idea
@@bmwblog I just prefer the old days when all BMW's had great steering. I must be getting old, but the other brands do a much better job at making steering more direct and natural. A base Macan with a 4 cylinder comes to mind. The X3M40 to me has a much more natural and direct feeling rack, then the current M340.
I was considering one a few months ago when I was car shopping - problem is the car would have been $63k the way I wanted and that is serious coin for a non M3 3 series.
Yes, prices went a bit crazy the last few years
This new interior design look like designers work hard until the release day, but they have a delay and throw that big tablet to finish the job on time
Thanks for the great review. Does it handle as good as E92 m3? I am trying to decide which one I should go for.
I can answer for Sean since I drove the E92 M3. They handle differently. The m340i might be the faster car, but there is something special about the E92 M3 with a naturally aspirated engine. I would take the E92
@@bmwblog Thanks for your comment!
I drove them both. I would go for de m340i 100%.
Its better in everything🤷♂️
Just think of the pros and cons of both cars before committing.
For sure they have fortified the doors to withstand crash close like we witnessed.
Eh, it's just a door. Nothing happens
Perfect summary, only thing this car is up against is depreciation alongside 335, 340 F80's
True, didnt think about the F80
One thing is for sure, B58 again sounds much nicer than the M3/M4. The previous gen S55 in the M3/4 sounded grotesque, and the latest motor still sounds too raspy.
I think they sound differently. Not sure if better or worse, but just a different approach.
Next year I'll be selling my M3 to get a RAV4 hybrid. Too many cops on the Crest to have fun and I don't trust the BMW on ski trips to Mammoth.
Hey amigo, genuine question. I test drove the 2024 M340($55k) and 2017 M3($45K) and 2018($55K, the LCI bumps it up). The m340 is much nicer with the wrapped screen on the inside, however, from drive perspective and cost perspective, what would you rather the less expensive older M3?
That previous generation M3 is a great car. Can't go wrong with it
Talked to my dealer!! 🔥👌
I have a civic hatchback and been considering buying an M340i in a few years lol trying to decide if it’ll be worth it or not
That huge cheap display and lack of swtchgear is a fatal flaw to me.
It is for some, but honestly, I take the driving dynamics over things like that
Nice car, always like the 3 Series.
G80 owner here- buy the g80. I don't daily it at all but definitely could be easily. Rides just fine in comfort settings. If you cannot afford M3 go with 440 or best you can afford.
There is no doubt that the M340i is a fantastic car, but people who looking at them should cross shop with the Giula 2.0 AND a 1-2 year old Giulia Quadrifoglio. Both have a much better steering rack and chassis tuning. The 2.0 will provide more efficiency and in my opinion, more fun around town. It's not until you get to winding country roads that the M340i's more powerful B58 might be enough of an advantage to edge out the Giulia 2.0's better handling and driving feel. And even then, it's tough to use the 382hp in the M340i to fullest extent without losing your license.
If you want more performance, but don't want to spend M3 money and still want comfort for longer drives, the Giulia Quadrifoglio will check those boxes and then some. A 2 year old car with 2 years of warranty left will be about the same price or even cheaper than a fully loaded M340i. The Quadrifoglio competes with the M3, and even though it was released in 2017, it's still rated higher than the newer G80 in most serious reviews. But the amazing thing about the Quadrifoglio is in its Advanced or Natural settings, it rides softer than an M340i with M-Sport suspension, and will even be a bit softer than an M340i with Adaptive Suspension set to soft. But throw the QV in race mode, and it's more engaging than an M3.
Subjectively, either version of the Giulia looks much better than the M340i, and both are far more unique. You will get questions about your car every time you park or get gas. You will look back at it every time you park. They are just fantastic cars.
Haven't tried the Giulia 2.0 in a while. It's good, but heard about customers having different issues with it. Did they address most of these?
The newer MY2020+ are just about as reliable as the Germans. The QV has come a long way as well.@@bmwblog
Great car but I've heard the 2024 auto stop-start function can't be manually disabled. It's Off in Sport Mode but On in Comfort. I'm not sure I'd want a car that turns itself off at every stoplight. A minor detail admittedly, but one that could be annoying and frustrating.
Exactly. It's because of the mild hybrid
@@bmwblog Is there no way around this, other than driving around in Sport mode?
BMW grossly underrates their HP rating. Not surprised if this car is closer to 400hp
Agreed, this seems to be the case given how quick the car is. I think on dynos it is making rated engine power at the wheels
I was left behind with my A45s when I met a tuned M340i on traffic lights. My ego got hurt so much I ordered M3, f* these B58s!
Look good = Audi
Go good = BMW
Any specific reason your hands on the steering wheel are positioned that way, isn't it little too high ?
:) I think this is the old school of teaching hand position. I pointed that out to Sean as well :)
Honestly the steering wheel grips felt great so even though I usually drive 9 - 3, I sort of switched it up a bit lol
All X-drive cars tend to undesrteer and I hate it - nothing like a typical BMW handling although it gives you better traction especially when the car is tuned.
I haven't found that. A gentle lift off mid corner gets the car to rotate nicely defeating understeer.
I want this car so bad 😢but other financial commitments eat up my disposable income ughh one day soon 🙏
Can the 340 idrive be upgraded to 8.5, etc? I know my 24 440 can't. The coast you refer to isn't fully engaged, if engaged at all, when using distance keeping /driver assist on., even in ecoslug mode.
I don't think it has the right head unit for the upgrade.
@@bmwblog Yeah there are some things that BMW has definitely adopted "don't ask, don't tell" attitude. 8.0 was written by a group of programmers in a back room that were using Windows 3.0 as a navigation model
For me, even the M340i is an overkill. The 330i has plenty and sufficient power for daily driving.
Even the 320i is ok for commuting.
Welp I’m sold
I have a genuine question! What is faster this or a Tesla 3 I recently rented a 2024 330i and a 2020 or 2022 Tesla 3 and I was shocked that the Tesla was that fast!
Which car would be better for me to get if I’m looking for the faster car?
For faster car? Tesla. For more fun? M340i
bro destoyed that door
I would have one by now if it came in a manual…
Dont get me wrong it is a decent car. But it seems like every car company is copying tesla for design now. The large screen, the more quiet exhaust system and hybrid bs that really just makes the car like an EV.
It's the same thing as the e9x generation, the 3 series can be faster than the M. But at the end of the day it's not an M, some people care, some (myself included) don't gaf.
This is why I defend the M lite cars. They are needed. I don't care if the M brand is diluted. Not everyone wants a stiff and very sporty ride for every day driving.
Is that „sunset orange“ color?
Melbourne Red
Why does the B58 not have a dipstick!!!
Why does it need one?
This car you should buy as manual. Manual you have more fun.
Unfortunately no manuals for this one
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I live here 😅
Love everything about this car
Another mild refresh coming now 07/2024
Very small though
Steering wheel , trim , idrive8.5, will they change sth outside?
As I said, small changes. Don't expect laser taillights and such
I would have a few objections:
1) Did you notice how rough and miserable leather there is on the seats?
2) the screen in front of the driver is awful, the graphics of the dials even worse as it does not remind anything used in cars. BMW promised to correct it, unfortunately never did.
3) The faff with climate control was mentioned in the video. Not only is it uncomfortable, it's DANGEROUS, which isn't off a brand like BMW who build up their reputation on safety
4) 10 quick physical shortcuts buttons (those above former climate control) are gone as well
5) the seats are stiff, most of the stiffness can probably be attributed to the miserable and rough leather which doesn't remind anything used in 5er models or higher
6) iDrive buttons' feedback is gone due to those micro touch buttons used instead of real buttons in the previous models
7) door bins aren't lined with felt, so anything you put in there rattles about. Horrible. A problem being present at least in 5er and 6er series too. Embarrassing for such a premium brand and for the price tag. Humble VW Golf has got it! 👎
8) mild hybrid is too complicated and it's another thing which may break down. Added (alleged) efficiency isn't worth it
I would recommend everyone buy a used pre-facelift model which covers most of the criticism above.
This is basically the same size as an e39 now.
It is, but unfortunately, it's not all BMW's fault. Regulations, consumers, drive the size these days
Its only better with Adaptive Air Suspension
The Sports is a bit rough
There is no air suspension
@@davidzvezda its an optional usd 600
It is M adaptive suspension , but that is not air suspension
@@davidzvezda i hear thats got a softer comfort setting.
I used to love BMWs and owned a few over the years but i think they have lost there way - design and ergonomics are dreadful and the drive is soulless. They used to be the ultimate driving machine - sadly no longer
AoN new 3.0 bm trick laps to tgr poin laps
And it doesn’t have the hideous M3 grill
Anyone lease one of these?
i see 😆😆😄u have custom front air wing or somekind of difuzor on u head hihihi
The G80 M3 is twice the car that this is.
Maybe it is, but again, not everyone wants one as a daily driver
No it isn’t as good as the M3……and that was the end of that bollox 😂
Car is 100k in Ireland fucking rip off
2025 model is 94943€ in Finland, the co2 tax kills all these faster cars
2024 BMW m340i
Este mismo modelo a tenido un cara a cara en aceleración con un honda Civic y lo que a echo es el ridículo la gran diferencia de potencia de uno a otro y el Civic lo mantenía en las salidas desde parados asta el punto que el Civic adelantaba lentamente pero lo adelantaba 😅😅😅 con la mitad de motor 😮😮😮😮 no le vi lógica pero ay está soy un fanático de BMW pero tengo que decir que desde el 2010 para Lante sus modelos son como todos y ahora con casi todo controlado por electrónica yo les llamo ya no coche si no jodidos ordenadores con ruedas y todos son iguales no solo BMW todas las marcas entras en eso y te encuentras con una jodida pantalla donde tendras que estar mirando para cualquier cosa pura basura y por diseños son todos iguales también asta que no están al lado tuyo ya no sabes si es un Mercedes Audi Hyundai Skoda BMW ect asta que ves su insignia
If you reccon this car is better buy then M3 then I believe you don't have enough money to buy M3 😂😂😂 this is poor man's M3 competition 😅😂
As someone said below, not everyone wants an M3 as a daily driver.
G80 M3 is very capable as daily driver comparable to M340i, if you like spirited driving over country roads and mountain passes, if you can afford it, get M3....
If you really can't afford a true M.. then yeah you get this car. But let's not get mistaken.. they just put the m340i badge on a 330i that your grandma drives and tune the engine a little more. The car looks terrible on the outside! Doesn't have the grill, wide body, bigger tires of the M3!! The M badge should not even be on this car, just call it a 340i. All of those things plus a lot more is what you get when you buy an M and what makes an M an M car! Also, if you worried about gas mileage don't get an M car. Stick to your average bmws. Real drivers and real car enthusiasts know what I'm talking about. I went from a 2018 M2 daily driver to a 2023 M3 Competition X Drive daily driver.. my buddy has a 340i, can't imagine if I had to drive that chick car everyday lol
M340i and 330i are completely different.
@@bmwblog because they put some M sideview caps on it? That's about it. inside same, outside same.. same tires, same body style, only difference is 3.0 motor compared to a 2.0 in the 330i. You can get a 330i with the m sport package and shadowline trim and it looks just like a m340i. Huge difference in looks and performance between the M3 and M340i, not sure why your debating this.
You DO realize the engines are completely different between the 330i and M340i, though, right?
@@mholmes9262 you do realize, when they are comparing the 340i to the M3 the engines are Waaaaaay different and the entire outside body is different? The cars don't even look the same, the 330i and 340i you can only tell when you drive the car or pop the hood
@@jaes8173 The comment I replied to said the M340i and 330i were the same car with different tunes, that's all I was responding to and it had nothing to do with the M3. And yeah I do realize the differences. B48, B58, S58, completely different suspension, additional chassis reinforcements and different body panels on the M3... Let's not get ahead of ourselves.
You repeat yourself too much 🙂
Everything,except thit disturbingly ugly tablet style dash. It horrible,without any taste or style.
Automatic? Lame. Real men drive stick
There is no manual for the M340i. Unfortunately
i remember when bmw was pretty now their ugly cars
This car is far from ugly
Make it wagon and we have best car today.
Ive driven both and sorry this is nothing compared to an m3 xdrive they are miles appart. If you ha ent spent time in an m3, then this 340i will impress you.
Its always a good strategy to not testdrive cars that we cannot afford, because then we would know what we are missing out on