Oysterman's Stopper Knot - AKA - Ashley's Stopper Knot - How to Tie
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- Oysterman's Stopper Knot AKA Ashley's Stopper Knot - How to Tie
In this video I show three different ways of tying the Oysterman's Stopper Knot aka the Ashley Stopper Knot. This particular stopper knot makes an excellent stopper knot because when tied the knot has a large base. I have seen it said that this knot could be used for climbing, but I have to wonder if this knot should actually be used as a climbing stopper knot! I prefer to think of this stopper knot as a medium duty knot.
It is extremely easy to tie and also untie.
ABoK 526. The Oysterman’s Stopper. The discovery of this knot is described in Chapter 1, page 7. It is a larger knot than the Figure- Eight, which has but one part around the stem. The Oysterman’s Stopper Knot has three rim parts, and these are quite symmetrical when viewed from the underside. From this view it closely resembles a Three-Strand Wall Knot. The end is nipped by a single top part. It is easy to tie and practical to use when the hole that is to be filled is too large for the Figure-Eight. Having reached the position of the upper right diagram and the end being rove as indicated by the arrow, the Half Knot shown near the end in the diagram must be pulled very snug; next the end is pulled and finally the standing part. Arrange the knot so that it is symmetrical as in the left and right bottom sketches. The center bottom diagram is given merely to show the over-and-under arrangement of the knot on a symmetrical diagram form.
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When I was about 10 year old an owner of a very large vessel gave me about 20 feet of a giant hawser. I took it home and tied it to a large branch of our ancient cherry tree that grew in our backyard to make a swing. To sit or stand on the swing, I tried this knot as the seat. It never came undone regardless of the abuse all the other kids and my siblings subjected it to.
I really struggled with a line of that size, but was eventually successful. A simple overland knot, even repeated, would not hold. It came apart every time. The hawser was made of manmade fibers and was very slippery and floated; not the easiest line to work, but I am happy to report that the swing stayed in the tree, never came loose, provided uncounted hours of pleasure and fun and stayed there for decades until the grand old cherry was unfortunately removed.
As a side note: This knot also suffered another abuse, being swung into the tree's trunk. It was abused daily and went thru all kinds of weather. Freezing, ice, snow, rain, direct sunlight... etc,
never seemed to affect the hawser or the knots.
I really love the way you explain the many ways of tying repetitive knot 'bits'; makes it look/sound so easy!
Thankx
I guess that way no-one can accuse me of not doing my homework. Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated. Are you more of a practical or decorative knotter?
@@KnottingKnots always been fascinated by knots for fishing scouting decorating handles wrists etc so maybe a bit of both and of course the challenge of this
Are you able to show me any of your work, as I do love to see other peoples knot-craft? You can drag and drop a photo here, please: bit.ly/yourknotwork
@@KnottingKnots well knot at present as I still need to actually practice and do some stuff! But I shall show sme soon hopefully
Keep a record of your early stuff, you will be amazed how you progress. I still hang my early work on my ditty bag. I look at it and wonder how on earth I thought that was any good!!!
Best ashley's knot tutorial. Thank you !
Cheers Adipatus, Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.
Yay, you're back and in the number 2 spot 30/5 07:30
I learned this knot as the treyfoil knot drawn from the marlinespike. You just go through the middle loop the other way than when tying the bowline.
Yes, I think more often than not, I tie my Bowlines that way. Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.
I particularly like the way the standing end enters the knot through the centre of the ASK. I'm using this knot in conjunction with other Johnny Deby videos for a small farm tool: soft shackle/tow strap. A four-strand round braid, maline eye splice and ASK. The ASK enables me to use the creation as a soft shackle or a tow strap with the ASK attached to the device and a something else attached to the eye. I've used it several times to pull an 800+ lb riding mower out of mud or up a short but steep hillside.
It is always good to hear about knots being used in action. I am also glad to see that you are also a fan of the soft shackle, I have loads of them scattered around, car, dog lead etc.
I've heard that the ASK can capsize when used in a soft shackle, and that only the diamond knot should be used. Problem is that knot is a beast to tie. What is your experience?
@@jonahmoore2941 : I haven’t had any issues, perhaps because I’m using a four-strand braid w/ paracord. The result has some body to it. Also I’m using it in a soft shackle so the knot and eye splice are both against the frame of my equipment. Somewhere on the web I saw a video on how to properly use a soft shackle so maybe the equipment frame is added strength? I’ll defer my opinion to @JohnnyDebt ‘s expertise.
Nice tutorial Thanks. I've always loved this knot.
I have just seen your hitching video, what a great job you have done there!!!
@@KnottingKnots Thanks very much.
Here's a crazy idea, only to be used in the most dire of emergencies. The book Practical Knots & Ropework by Percy Blandford has a section on climbing knots. The situation he discusses is that you need to descend a cliff and then recover your rope when you reach the bottom. You need to have something like a tree near the top of the cliff. The best method is to simply pass the rope around the tree and let two equal ends hang down. You use this doubled-up rope to descend and at the bottom you pull on one end to recover the rope.
But what if the rope isn't long enough? You need to somehow secure one end of the rope to the tree in such a way that you can still recover it. Here's the crazy idea: You tie an Oysterman's stopper knot and pass it around the tree and under the standing end, with the loop and the knot lying on the ground. That's it! The pressure of the standing end against the face of the stopper knot is supposed to hold the loop in place. You recover the rope at the bottom by giving it a hard shake. The book claims that if you climb carefully, always keeping tension on the rope, you won't fall to your death. Good luck with that!
Many thanks for this information! I also believe that something similar was used by escaping soldiers in Viet Nam, I think if I recall correctly they used a Sheep Shank with one of the cords cut, When shaken loose a small % only remained at the top. I wonder if what you are describing relates to the Remote Release Lift Hitch: ruclips.net/video/4q-WPaCQAZs/видео.htmlsi=vVysRyDUZIgqTDcr
i thinks it's called the ashley instead of oysterman, because of the background story of the knot. the knot on the line of the oysterman he saw, was a water bloated overhand, so his "imitation" turned out to be a completely new knot.
I thought that Ashley named it the Oysterman, as he discovered it on an oyster boat and at the time had no name................
I heard a similar explanation, except the mistaken knot was a swollen figure 8.
As a comment on the marling spike hitch I much prefer a packers knot it is by far a much better knot because if one makes a marlin spike hitch and puts it on your wrist if you just twist your wrist it will always come undone but a packers knot won't.
I use it tying the middle way on tarred braided line (#48) to make stages for my limb/throw lines when fishing. With the right swivel this knot will not allow the swivel to slide over the knot and holds the fish well. I just thread my swivel’s on the line and with a gauge begin tying up the line till I have as many stages on the line as I want.
I’m not sure but I feel with the bights it does not reduce the strength of the line either.
Thanks for taking the time to share this information, I always love to hear about knots and cordage being used in action!
Ok,but it's not the way I tie it ,as I can but you can't make this knot into a bend using 2 Ashley stopper knots as like a fisherman's knot can you? My favourite knot is without doubt a tweenie knot .which can be turned into so many other knots, like diamond knot ,foot rope knot ,Ashley's bend ,miller's knot , 2strand Turks head ,it forms some other this heads,also the Theodore knot I also use it as a bowline intact it's a bit like a octopus it is so versatile.
Hi Bryan, I'm curious why your text came out saying "intact" instead of "in fact". Are you using a speech-to-text tool? Which one? Also, what's a Theodore knot, did you mean Fiador or Stevedore?
This knot is intact a bowline knot pulled up so that you don't have a loop in it
Yep, it is.
Yes, you're right... Maybe this will help someone: I kept trying to start with a bowline , I was unsuccessful until I realized that the loose end needs to be pulled through the loop before you tighten.... So in a standard bowline configuration where the loop points down and the tail end is on the inside right, the tail end goes *down* through the loop and continues until there is no loop anymore. :)
Oh Great Oracle of Knots, Disciple of Ashley, Johnny the great:
I humbly come before thy to request illumination:
let's say i want to keep a Pringles can lid in place: Which knot or combination of them would you recommend?
What, you can open a packet of Pringle's and not eat all? OK, I think the biggest issue I see is the actual length of the tube. I personally think I would try using the Butchers Knot: ruclips.net/video/fOWue9PhSBQ/видео.html To me it just seems like the simplest of options? Let me know what you think?
thank you for the prompt answer, O Master of Hitches and Bends.
By your suggestion of the Butcher's hitch I believe in your neighborhood Pringles come more often in plastic mylarish packets than in hard cardboard tubes like is the only way we find them here in Brasil.
my intention is to use a pringles cannister, once properly devoided of its original content as quickly as possible, as a container for camping trinkets in such fashion it could be carried outside of the backpack without worries of it spilling its contents
my idea was using something like a jug sling on the 'tube' and tie, somehow, the 'ears' over the lid.
perhaps something like a 4leg barrel sling could be used in such fashion too.
but i tried them both and they works nicely to 'grip' the tube but when it comes to secure the lid in place the rope often slips around the top and leave it unsecure.
Rafael Ramos da Costa There are some videos out there on putting Paracord Handles on Cups. I see now reason why you could not make something similar for your container. Maybe something like this would work for you? ruclips.net/user/results?search_query=paracord+cup+handle+wrap
i had two ideas that might work but had not the chance to test yet: a jury mast knot or a sailor cross.
once i have a solution i'll let you know ;)
How about the Adjustable Jug Sling, quick and easy: ruclips.net/video/fMDtu_imOxU/видео.html
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There is another way of tying this knot what one needs to do is make a single rap scaffold knot and if you tye two knots like this you can make a good bend not unlike a fisherman's bend.where the two knots pull togeher
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