ekko seems to try and understand and give the space to heal to jinx in the final act , thats why the matching outfit and stuff. i really hope they expand on this story
I think I understood the character from the start😢. I disliked Vi a lot more because she deluded herself with drawing a line of good and bad and even tho it wasn't her fault she left her sister behind. But she didn't try to give her enough of a chance at salvation. She should've given Powder more chances earlier than she did 😔
She still blew up people who didn't ask for anything. Like councilors who were ultimately in favor of Zaun's evolution or enforcers who just came to put out a fire. Those people had families too. So yes, while iconic, she was a bad person who did bad things.
Jinx did some messed up things in Season One, but by Season Two she is doing a lot of objectively heroic, kind, even sometimes selfless things. She proved she wasn't broken and the real tragedy was that so few other characters seemed to see it, and that cruel circumstances kept taking away what happiness she had. Jinx, you were never broken, you were never a monster, and I hope you find a chance to heal and maybe, who knows, a Light on your horizon. 💛💙
She was broken, and she was a monster. What I assume you're actually saying is that she could've snapped out of it, if only she had been given the chance to heal. It is as simple as that. If only curcmustance and chance weren't against her, there were so many moments in the show where she could've avoided becoming Jinx, and managed to mend her broken self, stop further damage, and heal from her trauma. Either with Vi or with Ekko, Caitlyn got in the way of the former, and Powder giving up on the bridge in the way of the latter, as two examples. Unfortunately, Arcane is not a story about happy endings, but about trauma, imperfection, and tragedy.
Jinx murdered at least 20 people in season 1, including Firelights. I love Jinx's season 2 arc, but we shouldn't gloss over the magnitude of her deeds before she begins to find herself.
@merohie9599 I think calling a severely traumatized person struggling with mental illness 'broken' or a 'monster' is part of the problem, no matter how violently she's lashing out at the world. So many people in Jinx's life wrote her off as 'broken' 'monster' 'too far gone', and that just made it worse for her at every point.
Vi and Ekko just wanted Powder back, so hard they each were literally ready to murder her until some reminder of her 'Powder' side stopped them, and Silco leaned into enabling her 'Jinx' persona, and all that did was force her to choose between two parts of her psyche mostly constructed by other people's expectations, instead of reconciling with herself. It took until the very end of S3 and a whole jaunt into another timeline and a romance with an AU version of his childhood crush for Ekko to see that maybe he shouldn't have written her off. The only people who loved her unconditionally were Isha and Vander... ...and arguably Sevika, in a grumpy auntie who sort of wants you to lead a rebellion for her kind of way. Even AU Powder is hiding her trauma from losing Vi and stifling her own genius to please others and be their support girl. It's no surprise that Jinx is at her most healed, authentic and whole when she is with Isha. She still had a long way to go, but that was when she felt the most 'complete' to me. She was healing herself on her own steam, taking her own steps to reach out to her sister and reunite with her father. To become the hero, not just for the kiddo who looked up to her, but for herself as well.
@MsPBJTime interestingly though apart from venting the toxic Gray back at Piltover, where it dispersed quickly in open air, she never targeted civilians. Firelights, chembaron goons and Enforcers were all enemy combatants (even if we know the Firelights were 'good guys' ) and the Piltie council were the government of the oppressor state. Compare that to CaitVi gassing the Lanes with toxic chemicals that Cait knew would cause long term harm and throwing unknown numbers of innocent people into Stillwater. Nobody's hands are clean in Arcane.
Everything said was so true; especially psychology speaking. And that the fact that she was so brutally let down by the system and never given the chance of healing, is why she resonates with me and so many others e.g. why ppl love her...
I see it as...she had absolutely nothing wrong as a child but just bc of the place where she grew up in...where dying is an everyday occurrence, crime is everywhere, people are desparate , police is harrassing them daily and while this is happening she has to look how on the top of her city her oppressors live a dream life then all this s*it happens aswell, she just tries to be useful but ends up killing her own family, theres only soo much ones brain can take
Jinx really is a true victim of circumstance. I resonated and related to her the most in this series. That's why I was always on her side. It wasn't just the fact that she's the poster girl of League as a whole, it's not just bad girl bias, it's that Arcane turned Jinx from just a quirky chaotic bad girl into a character that has more than meets the eye behind all of the chaos. A victim of circumstance that earned her the name Jinx, a name she only grew to embrace, not because she likes it, but because she has no self esteem whatsoever. As someone who knows betrayal all too well, it was so easy for me to be against everyone who opposed Jinx. Including her simp sister Vi.
I honestly like vi too , i love both sisters and both were victims of circumstances , i like how complicated their relationship is and flaws in both of them , both did bad decisions in different ways yet deep down both have a good heart , jinx deserved the world fr
To be fair to Jinx, she only does what she does because she was taken in by Silco, who she accepted as her new father after Vander died. Had Powder been caught by Vi again instead of what happens in the story (remember Vi was going to go back but was intercepted by Marcus and thrown in prison for years), or found someone else to take care of her who didn't want to rise up against Piltover, she'd probably still be her manic self, but odds are she'd be doing things for whoever her new family is, and much more relaxed, not part of anyone's plans, just living. For people who hate on Vi, remember Silco lied to Jinx the entire time. He said Vi left her for good, while he thought that Vi was simply killed by Marcus, which is why he was so surprised when he found out that she wasn't actually dead. So when Jinx finds out Vi is back, he has to come up with a new scheme to say that Vi doesn't care about her, to not let there be any room for doubt that Silco is the only one who cares for her genuinely. When Jinx finally got room for doubt, that's how we got the dinner scene. Meanwhile all Vi is trying to do is find her sister so they can be a family again, if it wasn't for the Piltover and Zaun conflict pulling them in opposite directions. If the Firelights didn't interrupt their reunion, odds are maybe they could have been sisters again, but they never had 5 minutes to breathe. Remember, Silco wanted Jinx to build the weapon, Vi just wanted to get her somewhere safe and quiet, away from all the fighting, which is why it drives me nuts people say Vi is the bad guy more than Silco, Sevika, etc.
That's the beauty of the reading in Arcane all the characters are very human. No one is 100% wrong or right, nothing is just white and black. Everything is just different shades of gray. You don't have to justify the actions of each character, but you can understand why they act the way they do.🤔
She's not evil, but there's a good quote ''way to hell is paved with good intentions'' . Behaviour shows who you are, not your intentions. Being damaged can be understandable, doesn't mean their actions are justified. She did a good amount of good things asw as horrible things.
The truth is they kept jinxing her by calling her a Jinx. It's like self fulfilling prophecy. When you constantly put someone down they're bound to make mistakes. Silco knew this and he always encouraged her instead. Notice the only time she failed Silco was when she thought she saw Vi and when she met Vi. Vi was jinxing her all the time. Without Vi Jinx doesn't exist.
The only thing to blame is the world she lives in. EP7 of S2 shows us there can be a really good version of her which also convinced Ekko that she can be saved, who also had lost faith in her before. The same episode also showed us there's a good version of Silco as well In the end she became a hero and hope for Zaun, more like Janna
She was already unstable in the few years following her mother's death. When Vi said she wasn't ready yet, as she and the rest were about to go out to save Vander, you can clearly see her not being able to cope with the fact that she was seemingly powerless to contribute (until dropping the gemstones spawned that ill-fated idea). So in my opinion the Jinx was always deep inside of her; in the form of her insecurities and weaknesses. What was heartbreaking to me was that despite her transformation into Jinx which seems to be a rejection of her trauma, fears and weaknesses, deep down inside she was still desperately clinging to what was left of Powder. And in the end I sincerely feel that (apart from Ekko pointing it out in his own way of course) it is the innocence of Powder that saved her from complete and utter self destruction. The idea given to her by Ekko, that she is in fact worth saving. That she CAN do good despite of how anyone views her now. I think the alleged scene cut in season 1, where a young Ekko ventures out in an attemot to rescue her from the claws of Silco may have cleared this up tremendously. This is why, when they face off on the bridge, Jinx refers to him as 'the boy saviour' Of course, this scene made it painfully clear that Ekko failed and to him, Powder was lost forever, until he pulls his punch after seeing a glimpse of his once beloved and cherished friend.
The truth is everyone has a story and mountains to climb. If you know Powder's story you can see she is deserving of pity for her fallen state. You can cheer her attempts at redemption and cry for her failures. Still, you can't forget that Jinx is still the feared enforcer for Silco's criminal empire. Her reputation for being crazy and erratically cruel is earned. She took a petty joy in humiliatng subordinates and rivals alike. Murder is a day's work for Jinx. She didn't feel guilt or dwell on the victims. True, much of this is because Jinx is wrapped up in her own delusional world, but arguably, jinx's targets deserve as much consideration as this video grants Jinx.
After s2 I now know why Silco took in Powder and man it hits hard. He adopted Power not simply that she was cast aside and not even the fact that she was a child. At that moment when he looked at Vander's body he realized that Powder is the daughter of Felicia.
I feel like something that gets glossed a lot of us forget when talking about the violence to survive is that growing up Powder's hero (Vi) actively encouraged her development of explosives and weapons. Everyone she's ever trusted has taught her that violence is normal and keeps you safe, so combine that with the encouragement to develop weapons it's hard to see how she would've taken another path
Villains can be born, but most are made. Jinx is the product of immense trauma and bad influence. But we can't forget that regardless of these things, she chooses to do things that are objectively wrong. And not everyone who had been traumatized will do so. There is room for redemption. But you can't wash away her deeds by saying it's all traumas fault. If you do, you're saying she has no free will.
Wrong. Viktor is a villain. Even when you try to see things his way you realize he used everyone around him. It's all justified in his eyes. They did a good job writing him. Fooled a lot of people with his nice guy persona
@@MerlinTheCommenternah, Viktor is still a morally grey character. "Wrong means, good intentions" type of villain, but you can see where he comes from. I understand the argument behind some people's thought process that everything he did under the guise of "helping the undercity" was in fact just a way for him to try and find a cure for his disease, making it a very selfish objective which is ABSOLUTELY true, but it doesn't take away from the fact that although the root of his dream is selfish (finding a cure for himself) itself is a very noble objective. One's actions can be motivated by selfishness while also being noble and heroic
A lot of good points, however, you do need to bear in mind that all the people she kills are killings done with premeditation - both in ep 4 and in ep7 of season 1 and is unphased by them, be they Firelights or Enforcers she does kill for the pleasure of killing several times. And those are actions that can't be excused by saying that she's doing it to survive.
not really the ship she was supposed to protect like what she supposed and to zaun the Enforcers are just tyrant like in episode 7 they shot ekko with no hesitation at all even tho he was trying to return the gem you might think ohh if you kill then you're just bad but it's not that simple and piltover people have done more than enough to deserve the terror attacks
You do bring a good point and those points aren't justifiable, however in my opinion, the root of all of these problems was something out of her control.
@@woozyanimeSilco and Vander are the some paralera to Powder and Vi. One was mind and Second was strength. They have a confrict. The power one attack/nearly killed the weaker one. And then the weacker one have mental breakdowm and use his mind to be better and powerfull.
LOL -" The real tragedy isn't te destruction she causes," go tell that to the families of all the people she blew up, shot, or poisoned. Oh, but her perspective matters, well so does everyone else's perspective. Jinx's story is tragic, but so are the stories of many of the other people who aren't the adopted daughters of the #1 Crime Boss in Zaun. Also, Jinx exposed Isha to danger more than once. It was like she was inadvertently training Isha to be a child soldier.
Yeah, that's why I called him a good defense lawyer for killers and terrorists. He would do a good job trying to reframe it and ignoring the damage done. A good prosecutor would call that out though but not all of them do!
Who did she poison? That would be Caitlyn with the Grey. Also, nearly EVERYONE in this show has a body count. Why do people villainize Jinx when so many heros have body counts?
This video feels incredibly personal as I am currently going through this. I have been for about 30 years where nobody has tried to help me; they just judge me for what I did/said, even though it was clear that I needed help. I've gotten better over time and got some help to some extent, however, for the last few days, it all seems to be coming crashing down. Again, nobody seems to try to understand me but expects me to behave and think in certain ways I simply cannot, all the while they are unwilling to see me and what I am going through... Today, I have spent an hour sitting in a park, mostly just staring out of my head with generally no thoughts, sometimes crying. I tend not to have silence in my head, it is usually full of thoughts and plans, so it was a very frightening experience because this only happens when something is really wrong with me when I am really "going through it". Yet, nobody seems to want to, or even can, understand the extent of my depression, and just expects me to behave like a normal person and put on a smiling mask, not caring how much I am hurting inside.
@@woozyanime Thank you. I'm working through it. I have a friend who is battling the same demons and is trying to help me but first I think I need to let myself feel it and then pick up the pieces. Thank you for the video!
thank you for putting into words so brilliantly what I've felt all along. she is literally just trauma reactive and trying to protect herself from more pain while also struggling with her own inner voice attacking her constantly. it's so sad and my heart bleeds for her :(
They teased Warwick in episode 1 by calling Vander "The Hound of the Underground" and in episode 3 when Vander takes shimmer you can hear WW's theme playing in the background :)
Am I the only that sees Jinx blowing up half a dozen guards in episode 4 as an insanely terrible thing? They were pulling security at a festival and she just kills them because she had an inferiority complex. Imagine saying all the shit this video says but for Timothy McVeigh or the Unabomber. People these days have some fucked up mortality.
Maybe because the Enforcers killed her parents and kept Zaun oppressed which leads to all that trauma she went through? I mean if Piltover only shared a fraction of their wealth with Zaun none of that would happen which is basically one of the messages of the first two acts of S1
@@hardbasskvass597 Having a shitty childhood is no excuse for mass murdering innocent people. And, yes. Those enforcers were innocent. Miss me with that guilt by association BS.
@@brian0057 Who you think caused that terrible childhood? Enforcers and the greedy cousel. Joining a group where they killed innocent people during the conflict makes them guilty doesn't matter if they haven't done any terrible act yet. The fact that they're in that group means they're supporting that idea and willing to do that terrible act if required. They also enforce oppression and prevent any voice coming from Zaun, which leads to poverty, children working in mines and more
@@brian0057 Terrible childhood caused by Enforcers and the greedy counsel, you expect her to go and thank them they killed her parents? Joining a group that killed innocent people during the Zaun and Piltover conflict makes them guilty doesn't matter if they commited those terrible things or not the fact that they joined the Enforcers group means they support the idea of oppression and are willing to commit those terrible things if needed
Btw, these are literally very similar struggles people with cptsd have. And yes, it is VERY common. Relationship issues are so common these days, that I struggle to name 5 people with healthy relationships or no mental illness.
Some Statements i saw overall from her on the internet are just out of this world. This Video for me just scratched the surfice, but ppl dont even know that so good job, its a good video on that topic, but i dont know how ppl can blame her and excuse vis killings or everyone elses. I watched arcane again at this point i need to say that caitly and vi look like the villains to me. Caitlyn just wants to kill jinx doesnt even stop when a kid is like 99% covering her, vi kills ppl and turned her back to everything she stands for in the show because she want puss, they are shown as Heros but after i watched arcane for the first time i went from a vi fan to a oh okay jinx is actually not bad, than i had a brake and was like wait, jinx is really not bad, i watch it again and at this point vi is slowely drifting out of that "good place" she got in my heart there. But anyways. Great video bud
A mass murderer is a mass murderer. Even if the path they took to get there is a tragic and understandable one. I don't think she was ever misunderstood, she is what she is. Later she had character development that caused her to be an asset in some cases near the end. All those bodies that were just working and doing their jobs will still never make it home to their families.
I'm shocked this video was even necessary. There are no blurred lines with Jinx. She's a complex character who TF actually makes more sense than any other character in this show.
This goes btw for every living person. If you really dig, you dont find any evil person, just people that cope on often a horrific way. Learn about IFS, you will understand :)
Explaining why people do screwed up things doesnt make ANY of it ok. I dont think this argument justifies any of her actions. Ekko tried to save her from Silco but she rejected the boy hero. On top of that, when confronted by Silco about killing six enforcers while stealing the hexstones, she revelled in it even though he seemed extremely upset. Instead of explaining how she is a broken person and her crimes don't make her evil, somehow, a better examination would have been of her ethical code.
Bro, Jinx was a timid little child who went through trauma, felt like she was abandoned by the only person left who loved her. She then became a villain. And met a little redemption angel in Isha and became an antihero. Everyone knows Jinx is a victim of circumstances and bad luck. She's a tragic character turned bad girl. And that's why we love her. She re po resents so many of us in life. Jinx is HER!
fear and anger that is what jinx is the posion to any mind from a view of sanity is chaos and in turn we misjudge them as the devil when all they are is a dog barking at you from a fence all they know is bark if they stay and do nothing to anyone or thing they'll let them stay a few feet away if they try too fast to pet then the anger kick'z in and they bite from the fear of being hurt a monster to you is a saver to it'z owner......depending on what it does it to if it'z a kid there put down if it'z a stranger just cheacking on your owner and you dont wait for them they get fearful basic stuff for animal'z unless your well known and trusted by there owner it'z ok most of the time...jinx is a fearful angrey child that has turned into basic almost animal mind set in season 1 in two she lost everything and wanted to end ..she saved vi one last time as powder her pow pow
My take is had Jinx been a boy no one would be trying to justify her being literally a mass murderer. Dont get me wrong i love her character and i get what your saying but she killed like a dozen people including both her dads. Tragic yes but shes still a murderer.
I do understand her suffering and her actions. She is still a terrorist though. She blew up the only people who actually tried to make peace. They could have saved her. And many more.
And you won't get candy for that comment... 🤷♂ Seriously, if this is all you can add to something, then you really should keep it for yourself. Thank you in advance kiddo.
Hi there, i have a thought in my mind. Im a very big Star Wars fan and i think the Arcane Creators reinvented the original Star Wars Experience. Geroge Lucas said Star Wars is about family, the Arcane Creators said the same in a video. Jinx has a Darth Vader like moments: Anakin Mother, Born of Vader, Luke question: Any good in left in he?, The sacrifice of Vader to save Luke, etc, and the twist is he is Vader or Anakin? Silco has Palpatine like moments: Working in the Shadows, Manipulation, Disguise. Caitlyn has Leila like moments. Vi has Luke like moments. i love deep character development. Im dot think some thing hit me like the origal Star Wars but this the same quality, And im sorry im not a native english speaker. What you think?
ekko seems to try and understand and give the space to heal to jinx in the final act , thats why the matching outfit and stuff. i really hope they expand on this story
One of the devs have said they want to explore more of ekko and jinx story
@@clanka5509 It was showrunner ie main person
Does that mean we might see more of Ekko x jinx in the future animation?@@clanka5509
I literally never saw Jinx as a "bad" character....she was my favorite from the start to the end fr
Same here❤. From the day she killed Clagor and Milo 😭
I think I understood the character from the start😢. I disliked Vi a lot more because she deluded herself with drawing a line of good and bad and even tho it wasn't her fault she left her sister behind. But she didn't try to give her enough of a chance at salvation. She should've given Powder more chances earlier than she did 😔
"Don't cry. You're perfect". Silco
She still blew up people who didn't ask for anything. Like councilors who were ultimately in favor of Zaun's evolution or enforcers who just came to put out a fire. Those people had families too.
So yes, while iconic, she was a bad person who did bad things.
@@supafly7145 And so was almost every other significant character in the show. Think of that?
Jinx did some messed up things in Season One, but by Season Two she is doing a lot of objectively heroic, kind, even sometimes selfless things. She proved she wasn't broken and the real tragedy was that so few other characters seemed to see it, and that cruel circumstances kept taking away what happiness she had.
Jinx, you were never broken, you were never a monster, and I hope you find a chance to heal and maybe, who knows, a Light on your horizon. 💛💙
She was broken, and she was a monster. What I assume you're actually saying is that she could've snapped out of it, if only she had been given the chance to heal. It is as simple as that. If only curcmustance and chance weren't against her, there were so many moments in the show where she could've avoided becoming Jinx, and managed to mend her broken self, stop further damage, and heal from her trauma. Either with Vi or with Ekko, Caitlyn got in the way of the former, and Powder giving up on the bridge in the way of the latter, as two examples.
Unfortunately, Arcane is not a story about happy endings, but about trauma, imperfection, and tragedy.
Jinx murdered at least 20 people in season 1, including Firelights. I love Jinx's season 2 arc, but we shouldn't gloss over the magnitude of her deeds before she begins to find herself.
@merohie9599 I think calling a severely traumatized person struggling with mental illness 'broken' or a 'monster' is part of the problem, no matter how violently she's lashing out at the world. So many people in Jinx's life wrote her off as 'broken' 'monster' 'too far gone', and that just made it worse for her at every point.
Vi and Ekko just wanted Powder back, so hard they each were literally ready to murder her until some reminder of her 'Powder' side stopped them, and Silco leaned into enabling her 'Jinx' persona, and all that did was force her to choose between two parts of her psyche mostly constructed by other people's expectations, instead of reconciling with herself.
It took until the very end of S3 and a whole jaunt into another timeline and a romance with an AU version of his childhood crush for Ekko to see that maybe he shouldn't have written her off.
The only people who loved her unconditionally were Isha and Vander... ...and arguably Sevika, in a grumpy auntie who sort of wants you to lead a rebellion for her kind of way. Even AU Powder is hiding her trauma from losing Vi and stifling her own genius to please others and be their support girl. It's no surprise that Jinx is at her most healed, authentic and whole when she is with Isha.
She still had a long way to go, but that was when she felt the most 'complete' to me. She was healing herself on her own steam, taking her own steps to reach out to her sister and reunite with her father. To become the hero, not just for the kiddo who looked up to her, but for herself as well.
@MsPBJTime interestingly though apart from venting the toxic Gray back at Piltover, where it dispersed quickly in open air, she never targeted civilians.
Firelights, chembaron goons and Enforcers were all enemy combatants (even if we know the Firelights were 'good guys' ) and the Piltie council were the government of the oppressor state.
Compare that to CaitVi gassing the Lanes with toxic chemicals that Cait knew would cause long term harm and throwing unknown numbers of innocent people into Stillwater.
Nobody's hands are clean in Arcane.
Everything said was so true; especially psychology speaking. And that the fact that she was so brutally let down by the system and never given the chance of healing, is why she resonates with me and so many others e.g. why ppl love her...
Yes, I think she’s a misunderstood character. Yes, if I had to go through bad stuff on a daily basis, I would’ve ended up the exact same way as her.
I see it as...she had absolutely nothing wrong as a child but just bc of the place where she grew up in...where dying is an everyday occurrence, crime is everywhere, people are desparate , police is harrassing them daily and while this is happening she has to look how on the top of her city her oppressors live a dream life then all this s*it happens aswell, she just tries to be useful but ends up killing her own family, theres only soo much ones brain can take
She had reasons for her actions. So do all terrorists.
I do feel sorry for her losses though.
Jinx really is a true victim of circumstance. I resonated and related to her the most in this series. That's why I was always on her side. It wasn't just the fact that she's the poster girl of League as a whole, it's not just bad girl bias, it's that Arcane turned Jinx from just a quirky chaotic bad girl into a character that has more than meets the eye behind all of the chaos. A victim of circumstance that earned her the name Jinx, a name she only grew to embrace, not because she likes it, but because she has no self esteem whatsoever. As someone who knows betrayal all too well, it was so easy for me to be against everyone who opposed Jinx. Including her simp sister Vi.
I honestly like vi too , i love both sisters and both were victims of circumstances , i like how complicated their relationship is and flaws in both of them , both did bad decisions in different ways yet deep down both have a good heart , jinx deserved the world fr
Hero and a daughter, I love her and I am proud of all her progress.
To be fair to Jinx, she only does what she does because she was taken in by Silco, who she accepted as her new father after Vander died. Had Powder been caught by Vi again instead of what happens in the story (remember Vi was going to go back but was intercepted by Marcus and thrown in prison for years), or found someone else to take care of her who didn't want to rise up against Piltover, she'd probably still be her manic self, but odds are she'd be doing things for whoever her new family is, and much more relaxed, not part of anyone's plans, just living.
For people who hate on Vi, remember Silco lied to Jinx the entire time. He said Vi left her for good, while he thought that Vi was simply killed by Marcus, which is why he was so surprised when he found out that she wasn't actually dead. So when Jinx finds out Vi is back, he has to come up with a new scheme to say that Vi doesn't care about her, to not let there be any room for doubt that Silco is the only one who cares for her genuinely. When Jinx finally got room for doubt, that's how we got the dinner scene.
Meanwhile all Vi is trying to do is find her sister so they can be a family again, if it wasn't for the Piltover and Zaun conflict pulling them in opposite directions. If the Firelights didn't interrupt their reunion, odds are maybe they could have been sisters again, but they never had 5 minutes to breathe. Remember, Silco wanted Jinx to build the weapon, Vi just wanted to get her somewhere safe and quiet, away from all the fighting, which is why it drives me nuts people say Vi is the bad guy more than Silco, Sevika, etc.
That's the beauty of the reading in Arcane all the characters are very human. No one is 100% wrong or right, nothing is just white and black. Everything is just different shades of gray. You don't have to justify the actions of each character, but you can understand why they act the way they do.🤔
She's not evil, but there's a good quote ''way to hell is paved with good intentions'' . Behaviour shows who you are, not your intentions. Being damaged can be understandable, doesn't mean their actions are justified. She did a good amount of good things asw as horrible things.
She is not bad they make her bad and keeps telling her that she is bad
The truth is they kept jinxing her by calling her a Jinx. It's like self fulfilling prophecy. When you constantly put someone down they're bound to make mistakes.
Silco knew this and he always encouraged her instead. Notice the only time she failed Silco was when she thought she saw Vi and when she met Vi. Vi was jinxing her all the time. Without Vi Jinx doesn't exist.
@@meiru2453 agree that's why i hate VI she is toxic sister on other side jinx was the obsessed with esha
The only thing to blame is the world she lives in. EP7 of S2 shows us there can be a really good version of her which also convinced Ekko that she can be saved, who also had lost faith in her before. The same episode also showed us there's a good version of Silco as well
In the end she became a hero and hope for Zaun, more like Janna
She was already unstable in the few years following her mother's death.
When Vi said she wasn't ready yet, as she and the rest were about to go out to save Vander, you can clearly see her not being able to cope with the fact that she was seemingly powerless to contribute (until dropping the gemstones spawned that ill-fated idea).
So in my opinion the Jinx was always deep inside of her; in the form of her insecurities and weaknesses.
What was heartbreaking to me was that despite her transformation into Jinx which seems to be a rejection of her trauma, fears and weaknesses, deep down inside she was still desperately clinging to what was left of Powder. And in the end I sincerely feel that (apart from Ekko pointing it out in his own way of course) it is the innocence of Powder that saved her from complete and utter self destruction. The idea given to her by Ekko, that she is in fact worth saving. That she CAN do good despite of how anyone views her now.
I think the alleged scene cut in season 1, where a young Ekko ventures out in an attemot to rescue her from the claws of Silco may have cleared this up tremendously. This is why, when they face off on the bridge, Jinx refers to him as 'the boy saviour'
Of course, this scene made it painfully clear that Ekko failed and to him, Powder was lost forever, until he pulls his punch after seeing a glimpse of his once beloved and cherished friend.
The truth is everyone has a story and mountains to climb. If you know Powder's story you can see she is deserving of pity for her fallen state. You can cheer her attempts at redemption and cry for her failures.
Still, you can't forget that Jinx is still the feared enforcer for Silco's criminal empire. Her reputation for being crazy and erratically cruel is earned. She took a petty joy in humiliatng subordinates and rivals alike. Murder is a day's work for Jinx. She didn't feel guilt or dwell on the victims. True, much of this is because Jinx is wrapped up in her own delusional world, but arguably, jinx's targets deserve as much consideration as this video grants Jinx.
After s2 I now know why Silco took in Powder and man it hits hard. He adopted Power not simply that she was cast aside and not even the fact that she was a child. At that moment when he looked at Vander's body he realized that Powder is the daughter of Felicia.
I feel like something that gets glossed a lot of us forget when talking about the violence to survive is that growing up Powder's hero (Vi) actively encouraged her development of explosives and weapons. Everyone she's ever trusted has taught her that violence is normal and keeps you safe, so combine that with the encouragement to develop weapons it's hard to see how she would've taken another path
Villains can be born, but most are made. Jinx is the product of immense trauma and bad influence. But we can't forget that regardless of these things, she chooses to do things that are objectively wrong. And not everyone who had been traumatized will do so. There is room for redemption. But you can't wash away her deeds by saying it's all traumas fault. If you do, you're saying she has no free will.
Death doesnt mean anything for Jinx
tbh, the fallacy is assuming that arcane has villains or heroes at all. the true villain is the world they live in, the hero is love.
Wrong. Viktor is a villain. Even when you try to see things his way you realize he used everyone around him. It's all justified in his eyes. They did a good job writing him. Fooled a lot of people with his nice guy persona
@@MerlinTheCommenternah, Viktor is still a morally grey character. "Wrong means, good intentions" type of villain, but you can see where he comes from.
I understand the argument behind some people's thought process that everything he did under the guise of "helping the undercity" was in fact just a way for him to try and find a cure for his disease, making it a very selfish objective which is ABSOLUTELY true, but it doesn't take away from the fact that although the root of his dream is selfish (finding a cure for himself) itself is a very noble objective.
One's actions can be motivated by selfishness while also being noble and heroic
"Everyone is a villain in someone else's story..."
when you first said shes not evil you got me i was very happy pulled my heartstrings cured emotional damage
A lot of good points, however, you do need to bear in mind that all the people she kills are killings done with premeditation - both in ep 4 and in ep7 of season 1 and is unphased by them, be they Firelights or Enforcers she does kill for the pleasure of killing several times. And those are actions that can't be excused by saying that she's doing it to survive.
not really the ship she was supposed to protect like what she supposed and to zaun the Enforcers are just tyrant like in episode 7 they shot ekko with no hesitation at all even tho he was trying to return the gem you might think ohh if you kill then you're just bad but it's not that simple and piltover people have done more than enough to deserve the terror attacks
You do bring a good point and those points aren't justifiable, however in my opinion, the root of all of these problems was something out of her control.
@@woozyanimeSilco and Vander are the some paralera to Powder and Vi. One was mind and Second was strength. They have a confrict. The power one attack/nearly killed the weaker one. And then the weacker one have mental breakdowm and use his mind to be better and powerfull.
LOL -" The real tragedy isn't te destruction she causes," go tell that to the families of all the people she blew up, shot, or poisoned. Oh, but her perspective matters, well so does everyone else's perspective.
Jinx's story is tragic, but so are the stories of many of the other people who aren't the adopted daughters of the #1 Crime Boss in Zaun.
Also, Jinx exposed Isha to danger more than once. It was like she was inadvertently training Isha to be a child soldier.
Yeah, that's why I called him a good defense lawyer for killers and terrorists. He would do a good job trying to reframe it and ignoring the damage done. A good prosecutor would call that out though but not all of them do!
Who did she poison? That would be Caitlyn with the Grey. Also, nearly EVERYONE in this show has a body count. Why do people villainize Jinx when so many heros have body counts?
Frr
This video feels incredibly personal as I am currently going through this. I have been for about 30 years where nobody has tried to help me; they just judge me for what I did/said, even though it was clear that I needed help. I've gotten better over time and got some help to some extent, however, for the last few days, it all seems to be coming crashing down. Again, nobody seems to try to understand me but expects me to behave and think in certain ways I simply cannot, all the while they are unwilling to see me and what I am going through... Today, I have spent an hour sitting in a park, mostly just staring out of my head with generally no thoughts, sometimes crying. I tend not to have silence in my head, it is usually full of thoughts and plans, so it was a very frightening experience because this only happens when something is really wrong with me when I am really "going through it". Yet, nobody seems to want to, or even can, understand the extent of my depression, and just expects me to behave like a normal person and put on a smiling mask, not caring how much I am hurting inside.
I really hope things get better for you Viktoria, I am happy this video resonated with you
@@woozyanime Thank you. I'm working through it. I have a friend who is battling the same demons and is trying to help me but first I think I need to let myself feel it and then pick up the pieces. Thank you for the video!
thank you for putting into words so brilliantly what I've felt all along. she is literally just trauma reactive and trying to protect herself from more pain while also struggling with her own inner voice attacking her constantly. it's so sad and my heart bleeds for her :(
Wait one minute. At 2:34, in season 1 they foreshadowed Vander's Warforge form.
They teased Warwick in episode 1 by calling Vander "The Hound of the Underground" and in episode 3 when Vander takes shimmer you can hear WW's theme playing in the background :)
Wait whattttt..
I actually did not know this wow
Am I the only that sees Jinx blowing up half a dozen guards in episode 4 as an insanely terrible thing?
They were pulling security at a festival and she just kills them because she had an inferiority complex.
Imagine saying all the shit this video says but for Timothy McVeigh or the Unabomber.
People these days have some fucked up mortality.
she kinda lost her parents because of their colleagues and this is one of the reasons for her condition
Maybe because the Enforcers killed her parents and kept Zaun oppressed which leads to all that trauma she went through? I mean if Piltover only shared a fraction of their wealth with Zaun none of that would happen which is basically one of the messages of the first two acts of S1
@@hardbasskvass597
Having a shitty childhood is no excuse for mass murdering innocent people.
And, yes. Those enforcers were innocent.
Miss me with that guilt by association BS.
@@brian0057 Who you think caused that terrible childhood? Enforcers and the greedy cousel. Joining a group where they killed innocent people during the conflict makes them guilty doesn't matter if they haven't done any terrible act yet. The fact that they're in that group means they're supporting that idea and willing to do that terrible act if required. They also enforce oppression and prevent any voice coming from Zaun, which leads to poverty, children working in mines and more
@@brian0057 Terrible childhood caused by Enforcers and the greedy counsel, you expect her to go and thank them they killed her parents? Joining a group that killed innocent people during the Zaun and Piltover conflict makes them guilty doesn't matter if they commited those terrible things or not the fact that they joined the Enforcers group means they support the idea of oppression and are willing to commit those terrible things if needed
Btw, these are literally very similar struggles people with cptsd have. And yes, it is VERY common. Relationship issues are so common these days, that I struggle to name 5 people with healthy relationships or no mental illness.
I think it's not rocket science, Arcane fandom may be a bit simple not realising stuff
Some Statements i saw overall from her on the internet are just out of this world. This Video for me just scratched the surfice, but ppl dont even know that so good job, its a good video on that topic, but i dont know how ppl can blame her and excuse vis killings or everyone elses. I watched arcane again at this point i need to say that caitly and vi look like the villains to me. Caitlyn just wants to kill jinx doesnt even stop when a kid is like 99% covering her, vi kills ppl and turned her back to everything she stands for in the show because she want puss, they are shown as Heros but after i watched arcane for the first time i went from a vi fan to a oh okay jinx is actually not bad, than i had a brake and was like wait, jinx is really not bad, i watch it again and at this point vi is slowely drifting out of that "good place" she got in my heart there. But anyways. Great video bud
Thank you for understanding and you kind comment! You bring up great points!
A mass murderer is a mass murderer. Even if the path they took to get there is a tragic and understandable one. I don't think she was ever misunderstood, she is what she is. Later she had character development that caused her to be an asset in some cases near the end. All those bodies that were just working and doing their jobs will still never make it home to their families.
Jup, vi, caitlyn, nearly everyone in arcane, just a couple of mass murders
@Jasongilliar Agreed, there's definitely more than one.
Nearly everyone in Arcane is a murderer bro, the bias is crazy
@introvertedinfp Agreed, nearly everyone. There's no bias. He just chose to discuss Jinx.
I never saw her be evil💙
Pretty sure Jinx is most people’s favorite character and no one thinks she is an evil villain.
You would be suprised haha
Bro can be a defense lawyer for killers and terrorists. This was really well written.
LOL
I'm shocked this video was even necessary. There are no blurred lines with Jinx. She's a complex character who TF actually makes more sense than any other character in this show.
wow good job on this video and the chanel
Thank You!!
This goes btw for every living person. If you really dig, you dont find any evil person, just people that cope on often a horrific way.
Learn about IFS, you will understand :)
Explaining why people do screwed up things doesnt make ANY of it ok.
I dont think this argument justifies any of her actions. Ekko tried to save her from Silco but she rejected the boy hero.
On top of that, when confronted by Silco about killing six enforcers while stealing the hexstones, she revelled in it even though he seemed extremely upset.
Instead of explaining how she is a broken person and her crimes don't make her evil, somehow, a better examination would have been of her ethical code.
So whats your take on the police and the presidents
Bro, Jinx was a timid little child who went through trauma, felt like she was abandoned by the only person left who loved her. She then became a villain. And met a little redemption angel in Isha and became an antihero.
Everyone knows Jinx is a victim of circumstances and bad luck. She's a tragic character turned bad girl. And that's why we love her. She re po resents so many of us in life. Jinx is HER!
YESSS
fear and anger that is what jinx is the posion to any mind from a view of sanity is chaos and in turn we misjudge them as the devil when all they are is a dog barking at you from a fence all they know is bark if they stay and do nothing to anyone or thing they'll let them stay a few feet away if they try too fast to pet then the anger kick'z in and they bite from the fear of being hurt a monster to you is a saver to it'z owner......depending on what it does it to if it'z a kid there put down if it'z a stranger just cheacking on your owner and you dont wait for them they get fearful basic stuff for animal'z unless your well known and trusted by there owner it'z ok most of the time...jinx is a fearful angrey child that has turned into basic almost animal mind set in season 1 in two she lost everything and wanted to end ..she saved vi one last time as powder her pow pow
Don't put words in my mouth. I never said she was a person. She's my favorite character. I love Jinx.
if she was truly just all bad, she wouldn't cared about isha at all.
She just needs a hug man.. 🚀🤗💣
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TYSM!!!!
@woozyanime deserved
So she is hurt, and it's enough to justify her actions? Imagine you are someone close to that girl she shot in the back just becouse of her hair.!
My take is had Jinx been a boy no one would be trying to justify her being literally a mass murderer. Dont get me wrong i love her character and i get what your saying but she killed like a dozen people including both her dads. Tragic yes but shes still a murderer.
I think jinx has borderline personality and his victim of narcissistic manipulation something often happens in real life
i c myself in jinx
Same
jinx is completely innocent and beutiful👌👍
I do understand her suffering and her actions.
She is still a terrorist though. She blew up the only people who actually tried to make peace. They could have saved her. And many more.
They fucking had it coming.
@@POWPOW-cu4dt11 🤣
She aint gonna let you hit lil bro
And you won't get candy for that comment... 🤷♂
Seriously, if this is all you can add to something, then you really should keep it for yourself. Thank you in advance kiddo.
Thank you!
I love u jinx❤ not let go
Hi there, i have a thought in my mind.
Im a very big Star Wars fan and i think the Arcane Creators reinvented the original Star Wars Experience.
Geroge Lucas said Star Wars is about family, the Arcane Creators said the same in a video.
Jinx has a Darth Vader like moments: Anakin Mother, Born of Vader, Luke question: Any good in left in he?, The sacrifice of Vader to save Luke, etc, and the twist is he is Vader or Anakin?
Silco has Palpatine like moments: Working in the Shadows, Manipulation, Disguise.
Caitlyn has Leila like moments.
Vi has Luke like moments.
i love deep character development.
Im dot think some thing hit me like the origal Star Wars but this the same quality, And im sorry im not a native english speaker.
What you think?
I really like the idea however, I really dont want to stray away from anime too much. Arcane itself was a strech but I loved it.
jinx is her
nc analise nc tone of voice let's help this guy.
Thank You!!!