Kia ora koutou ....in my understanding, there is a 'sunset clause' in the Declaration of Independence 1835, and those windup conditions are in section 2. Just need to look closely for them...they are definitely there. It is those section 2 conditions that was followed, by the writers, for implementing the Treaty of waitangi 1840[ Te Tiriti o Waitangi ]......................................................... The use of the term 'parent' has nothing to do with progeny...it to me appears to be a style of expression(and in a sneaky way, if I may say so), that relates to expressing a 'time relationship or time prior to a point in time''... a very important concept one has to grasp, to fully understanding both treaties...it actually establishes a 'time reference to a known event in time' ...ultra critical to the treaty and it is a 'time concept' expressed throughout both treaties...in the preamble in the body of the 'treaties' in the articles. The other concept, to grasp is that there, are the 4 clauses, established in section 4 of the 1835 declaration.The last 2 clauses are easy to understand. Of those two, the 2nd clause ....it's about a clause object(we can all see that) while the 1st(of the last 2) is about time. So in a nutshell....one clause, sets the objective(be it Law or whatever) the other approximates a time or year for that objective or Law, of the other clause. ie"parent of infant state"...when was the infant(concept) born?...=> october 1835 so when what about the parent concept => it must have been prior to October 1835. So referencing a time relationship, is an overarching theme through-out both documents. A quick word on the other remaining clause(section 4 Declaration 1835).You will find that it's actually a combo clause(it has 2 clauses) and again 1 clause sets the law the other clause sets a time relationship, for the other clause. Time is what they are talking about in the start of s2 ie 'what time is expressed for meeting , in congress? and what time is the reference point .......'autumn'.... when is autumn? .........and the next chapter is about .........Law?...so just drawing a broad picture here. In a nutshell it's about "a time prior to the reference point 'autumn'. another quick example "royal protection".To enable protection is actually about Protection by Law. so how do you, account for a 'time reference'...... well if 1840 is the reference time point......the term 'royal' arguably refers to something that must have been accorded prior to 1840..lots of arguments for this 'extension', royal favour etc.......... enough for now....this is only just the tip of the iceberg............................apologies for the big font....don't know why this happened?..............Nga mihi, nga manaakitanga mea nga aroha ki a Koutou katoa
Johnny, I remember Dr Manuka Henare pointing out ( on one of your previous videos) that 'The New Zealand Declaration of Independence 1835" is the correct name for the document. This infers that the document includes all New Zealanders. When all the pakeha and tau iwi realise this fact, our founding document can and may take its rightful position in our land.
Bro Ive just seen this even though it was posted that long ago. I'm re-establishing my knowledge on the declaration, Harry may be the only Royal should he become King, apparently hes part of a prophecy but thats another story. He respects Maori and our country, what do you think bro? This is awesome stuff.
All the royal family are corrupt they profit at the expensive of others and they were involved with Jeffery epstein we need to take back our land and our rights to govern ourselves the government have no rights there is more than enough land for everyone in the world to Share
Harry 😂😂😂 he respects nothing. His character as a Man is not anywhere near what is needed to be worthy to be a King. Im shocked at Maori today, the lack of knowledge is astounding. Do you understand what it takes to be worthy of a kingship or a chief?
852 BC seems a little too precise, you sure you not making this sht up? Other than your say so what verifiable evidence do you have to back your claim?
Aokealoakanakamaoli E ki raa, my Tupuna Te wherowhero was no kupapa, the original flag which was Harakeke & the under feather of pouakai, was not recognised at sea when our people started trading exporting, & was impounded, so our people knew we had to get with the times, & chose Te kara as our trading flag, & acknowledged by other nations on sea & land 21 gun salute Hms aligator, so we continued on with no interference, so we then have a constitution & a trading flag, when Hone Heke saw the colonial flag flying at kororareka(Russel) above Te kara, hence he did the deed & cut down the flag pole, This flag was chosen by our Tupuna & is still our official trading flag, Patu one & wakanene also put their mark on He wakaputanga in 1839, along with Te Hapuku & Te wherowhero, He wakaputanga is our constitution & Te Kara our trading flag Tinorangatiratanga in exchange for Kawanatanga, still to this day this govt has no constitution & their flag is only an ensign, they are in fact lawless,...no reira kia tuturu awhiti whakamaua kia tina! tina! Haumi e! hui e! Tai eke e!!
I like share words about sovereignty jurisdiction, commercial codes all under the crown law ,, 1st king & Queen sent old James Cook here to do a number of things , after language Barrier was broken between James Cook & THE Indigenous people he found through discovery .kings and qeens ,start marking there moves ,,introduction to changes to these rich lands
French freemason seen tattoos then found out they are the southern stars and other history not been told correctly. It the land they been searching for as it is mentioned in the bible so it all about churches government politician warfare one world order and so on .
He Wakaputanga o te Rangatiratanga o Nu Tireni 1. Ko matou ko nga Tino Rangatira o nga ===>*** iwi *** iwi uri !!! 1. (noun) offspring, descendant, relative, kin, progeny, blood connection, successor.
Kia ora hone,the way i see the signing of the treaty is as farcical as the translation itself, i have no doubt that Mr. williams and his son were proficient in maori study and the functioning of maori. However, that fact gets lost in translation when you consider the subtleness of language and the nuances that it encompasses,for instance, english have many words that mean the same thing like ,pants in english you can say pants as trouser,shorts or pyjama bottom and ,unless you understand the context or nuance of the statement in the form in which it was written then the translation is altered ,,,just like a realtor selling a crappy house near a sewer ,,he could write his ad stating it was a fixer upper with waterfront views, ,,,,,,so to the actual signing ,,,to me that sounded like that realtor trying to buy your land telling you by giving up your land and letting your neighbor run the show we will be your fiend,,,, how many idiots would sign that,, who in their right mind would sign over their lives and their land to someone else,, remember, the nuance of language thing of which i spoke earlier well here i will say the word kawanatanga represented here as meaning governor and that rangatira meant chief or noble,,, and so we come to the three words ,the interpretation in english which make my blood boil, those three words in english are (1)governorship= effectively saying maori give this to the crown ,the maori version being te kawanatanga katoa means the giving of total ownership of their lands ...the word(2) sovereignty had no meaning in maiori and like i said fthe nuance of the english translation had a totally different meaning the third and final word being, in maori as tikanga maori which has several english meanings like culture , protocol or customary law but as far as i was taught it meant doing thing the right thing or doing things the right way ,if I'm wrong please enlighten me and,, if you made it through my entire monologue" god bless hone"
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He Whakaputanga is the founding document, one of Independence and is inline with Te Tiriti o Waitangi unlike other claims that Te Tiriti o Waitangi replaces He Whakaputanga. That's just an absurd way of the coloniser mentality.
Christian flag not Maori, it was adopted from Church Missionary Society as Independent Christians this is typical of Maori to twist meanings weve had enough
As it said. The northern tribes. Not the whole of NZ. However the Treaty of Waitangi represented "all" of NZ. Even 26 of the chiefs that signed the 1835 agreement went over to the Treaty of Waitangi and subsequently sign and agreed to that. So the He Wakaputanga was an aberration. Just history on our road to a united New Zealand!! Be careful you do not cause separatism
Don't forget the Treaty of Waitangi doesn't hold as much water as Te Tiriti o Waitangi under international law so He Whakaputanga and Te Tiriti run side by side. Btw He Whakaputanga can still be signed by other Rangatira today if they want, there is no end date.
Paramount chief's of the Far North includes Ururoa of Paihia Bay of Islands Te Hapuku paramount Chief of Kahungunu and Te Whero Whero signed in 1839 representing Waikato Tainui amongst many notable Rangatira leaders of the time supported by Taranaki and Ngati Porou of the east coast. He Wakaputanga 1835 was given Royal assent by King William 1V and heralded worldwide given a 21 gun salute and remains in International law
Hongi Hika was the Paramount Chief of Ngapuhi. Ururoa was more like vice president. Hone Heke was the first Ngapuhi Chief to sign based on Queen Victorias declaration to the chiefs who was represented by Henry Williams as translator that all land and resources are still obtained by the chiefs and all things they value.
And Maori returned to find out that their land was given to Pakeha soldiers to thank them both for their services. Maori fought under that flag to gain some kind of equality status in NZ. Didn't happen. You fly your flag and we will fly what ever flag we want under Tino Rangatiratanga. Incidentally as a Tangata Whenua I will fly my own flag differing from most other flags.
My old people would say wheres your koro he,s at the pa ,, let's replace that word with marae ,, what do, marae mean not,,pa now can we see the patten that's show ,kings and Queen's were good at changing things especially words ,, like give my land back , Im the tangata whenua, they say people of the land we say ai they say well our king said your from the land. that we now own sign here ,, Pa,,, Tangata Whenua ,,,, contracts, KINGS AND QEENS NO THAT THERE S A affidavit,, out there
:|Town pie dah addah kuys|: 😂😂😂🔥🌪️💨 All Indigenous Tupuna were already spiritual people, they did not need to be a Christian to be saved by some white nikkka named Jesus. Imperial Colonialism banned ALL Indigenous Languages around the planet to divide & conquer for the sole purpose of Corporate wealth of the British Empire.
Becos of the treaty and its misinterpretation by past n present colonial governments has turned NZ into an assumed multicultural lab of democratic deceit and greed
I believe the Monarchy will end very soon and Good riddance too. Maori will finally have more say and control of Aotearoa for the better all the people. Thank you for your video.
Tawhio signed this one and he is Tainui. He got his degrees in England.
Hapu are in credit. Nu Tureni owes no debt
That illegal global VATcan debt belongs to past n present NZ governments and not to the iwi n kiwi who are still waiting for an honorable outcome 🎉❤
Kia ora koutou ....in my understanding, there is a 'sunset clause' in the Declaration of Independence 1835, and those windup conditions are in section 2.
Just need to look closely for them...they are definitely there.
It is those section 2 conditions that was followed, by the writers, for implementing the Treaty of waitangi 1840[ Te Tiriti o Waitangi ]......................................................... The use of the term 'parent' has nothing to do with progeny...it to me appears to be a style of expression(and in a sneaky way, if I may say so), that relates to expressing a 'time relationship or time prior to a point in time''... a very important concept one has to grasp, to fully understanding both treaties...it actually establishes a 'time reference to a known event in time' ...ultra critical to the treaty and it is a 'time concept' expressed throughout both treaties...in the preamble in the body of the 'treaties' in the articles.
The other concept, to grasp is that there, are the 4 clauses, established in section 4 of the 1835 declaration.The last 2 clauses are easy to understand. Of those two, the 2nd clause ....it's about a clause object(we can all see that) while the 1st(of the last 2) is about time. So in a nutshell....one clause, sets the objective(be it Law or whatever) the other approximates a time or year for that objective or Law, of the other clause. ie"parent of infant state"...when was the infant(concept) born?...=> october 1835 so when what about the parent concept => it must have been prior to October 1835. So referencing a time relationship, is an overarching theme through-out both documents. A quick word on the other remaining clause(section 4 Declaration 1835).You will find that it's actually a combo clause(it has 2 clauses) and again 1 clause sets the law the other clause sets a time relationship, for the other clause.
Time is what they are talking about in the start of s2 ie 'what time is expressed for meeting , in congress? and what time is the reference point .......'autumn'.... when is autumn? .........and the next chapter is about .........Law?...so just drawing a broad picture here. In a nutshell it's about "a time prior to the reference point 'autumn'.
another quick example "royal protection".To enable protection is actually about Protection by Law. so how do you, account for a 'time reference'...... well if 1840 is the reference time point......the term 'royal' arguably refers to something that must have been accorded prior to 1840..lots of arguments for this 'extension', royal favour etc..........
enough for now....this is only just the tip of the iceberg............................apologies for the big font....don't know why this happened?..............Nga mihi, nga manaakitanga mea nga aroha ki a Koutou katoa
Johnny, I remember Dr Manuka Henare pointing out ( on one of your previous videos) that 'The New Zealand Declaration of Independence 1835" is the correct name for the document. This infers that the document includes all New Zealanders. When all the pakeha and tau iwi realise this fact, our founding document can and may take its rightful position in our land.
Absolute truth...
Bro Ive just seen this even though it was posted that long ago. I'm re-establishing my knowledge on the declaration, Harry may be the only Royal should he become King, apparently hes part of a prophecy but thats another story. He respects Maori and our country, what do you think bro? This is awesome stuff.
All the royal family are corrupt they profit at the expensive of others and they were involved with Jeffery epstein we need to take back our land and our rights to govern ourselves the government have no rights there is more than enough land for everyone in the world to Share
Harry 😂😂😂 he respects nothing. His character as a Man is not anywhere near what is needed to be worthy to be a King. Im shocked at Maori today, the lack of knowledge is astounding. Do you understand what it takes to be worthy of a kingship or a chief?
@@t.t6191what a load of rubbish, please put your garbage out on collection day!
thanks for the share
Ruanui's: mamari/mataatua partnership. Kupe's estranged inlaw ruanui lost all mana to Aokealoa when he kidnapped Nukutafiti & beheaded him. 852.BC.
That is not NZ history
NZ is apart of the pacific realm. Its very relevant.
852 BC seems a little too precise, you sure you not making this sht up? Other than your say so what verifiable evidence do you have to back your claim?
@@dgm2593until there's some kind of verifiable evidence to back this claim it is not relevant.
Aokealoakanakamaoli
E ki raa, my Tupuna Te wherowhero
was no kupapa, the original flag which was Harakeke & the under feather of pouakai, was not recognised at sea when our people started trading exporting, & was impounded, so our people knew we had to get with the times, & chose Te kara as our trading flag, & acknowledged by other nations on sea & land 21 gun salute Hms aligator, so we continued on with no interference, so we then have a constitution & a trading flag, when Hone Heke saw the colonial flag flying at kororareka(Russel) above Te kara, hence he did the deed & cut down the flag pole, This flag was chosen by our Tupuna & is still our official trading flag, Patu one & wakanene also put their mark on He wakaputanga in 1839, along with Te Hapuku & Te wherowhero, He wakaputanga is our constitution & Te Kara our trading flag Tinorangatiratanga in exchange for Kawanatanga, still to this day this govt has no constitution & their flag is only an ensign, they are in fact lawless,...no reira kia tuturu awhiti whakamaua kia tina! tina! Haumi e! hui e! Tai eke e!!
I like share words about sovereignty jurisdiction, commercial codes all under the crown law ,, 1st king & Queen sent old James Cook here to do a number of things , after language Barrier was broken between James Cook & THE
Indigenous people he found through discovery .kings and qeens ,start marking there moves ,,introduction to changes to these rich lands
French freemason seen tattoos then found out they are the southern stars and other history not been told correctly.
It the land they been searching for as it is mentioned in the bible so it all about churches government politician warfare one world order and so on .
I'm maori but also a nephew to these king and queen and we still corrupt with aunty rules this no joke true fact
Great grandson to tamehana from poua
He Wakaputanga o te Rangatiratanga o Nu Tireni
1. Ko matou ko nga Tino Rangatira o nga ===>*** iwi *** iwi uri !!!
1. (noun) offspring, descendant, relative, kin, progeny, blood connection, successor.
Kia ora hone,the way i see the signing of the treaty is as farcical as the translation itself, i have no doubt that Mr. williams and his son were proficient in maori study and the functioning of maori. However, that fact gets lost in translation when you consider the subtleness of language and the nuances that it encompasses,for instance, english have many words that mean the same thing like ,pants in english you can say pants as trouser,shorts or pyjama bottom and ,unless you understand the context or nuance of the statement in the form in which it was written then the translation is altered ,,,just like a realtor selling a crappy house near a sewer ,,he could write his ad stating it was a fixer upper with waterfront views, ,,,,,,so to the actual signing ,,,to me that sounded like that realtor trying to buy your land telling you by giving up your land and letting your neighbor run the show we will be your fiend,,,, how many idiots would sign that,, who in their right mind would sign over their lives and their land to someone else,, remember, the nuance of language thing of which i spoke earlier well here i will say the word kawanatanga represented here as meaning governor and that rangatira meant chief or noble,,, and so we come to the three words ,the interpretation in english which make my blood boil, those three words in english are (1)governorship= effectively saying maori give this to the crown ,the maori version being te kawanatanga katoa means the giving of total ownership of their lands ...the word(2) sovereignty had no meaning in maiori and like i said fthe nuance of the english translation had a totally different meaning the third and final word being, in maori as tikanga maori which has several english meanings like culture , protocol or customary law but as far as i was taught it meant doing thing the right thing or doing things the right way ,if I'm wrong please enlighten me and,, if you made it through my entire monologue" god bless hone"
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NZs government policies are racist as fk
He Whakaputanga is the founding document, one of Independence and is inline with Te Tiriti o Waitangi unlike other claims that Te Tiriti o Waitangi replaces He Whakaputanga. That's just an absurd way of the coloniser mentality.
Christian flag not Maori, it was adopted from Church Missionary Society as Independent Christians this is typical of Maori to twist meanings weve had enough
Like your race does.
😎🫡🌿🖤🤍❤️🌿
As it said. The northern tribes. Not the whole of NZ. However the Treaty of Waitangi represented "all" of NZ. Even 26 of the chiefs that signed the 1835 agreement went over to the Treaty of Waitangi and subsequently sign and agreed to that. So the He Wakaputanga was an aberration. Just history on our road to a united New Zealand!! Be careful you do not cause separatism
You all ready have caused separatism.
Don't forget the Treaty of Waitangi doesn't hold as much water as Te Tiriti o Waitangi under international law so He Whakaputanga and Te Tiriti run side by side. Btw He Whakaputanga can still be signed by other Rangatira today if they want, there is no end date.
NZs founding document and only constitution www.tewakamokopuna.net
That agreement looks 100% pakeha written. Who were these chiefs what they names where they come from.
Not that I don't have an idea I got my suspects.
Paramount chief's of the Far North includes Ururoa of Paihia Bay of Islands Te Hapuku paramount Chief of Kahungunu and Te Whero Whero signed in 1839 representing Waikato Tainui amongst many notable Rangatira leaders of the time supported by Taranaki and Ngati Porou of the east coast. He Wakaputanga 1835 was given Royal assent by King William 1V and heralded worldwide given a 21 gun salute and remains in International law
Hongi Hika was the Paramount Chief of Ngapuhi. Ururoa was more like vice president. Hone Heke was the first Ngapuhi Chief to sign based on Queen Victorias declaration to the chiefs who was represented by Henry Williams as translator that all land and resources are still obtained by the chiefs and all things they value.
Maori battalion fought under that flag the.real flag of our nation
FOUGHT UNDER THREAT AND DURESS PUT UPON THEM BY PARLIAMENT, NZ GOVERNMENT.
And Maori returned to find out that their land was given to Pakeha soldiers to thank them both for their services. Maori fought under that flag to gain some kind of equality status in NZ. Didn't happen. You fly your flag and we will fly what ever flag we want under Tino Rangatiratanga. Incidentally as a Tangata Whenua I will fly my own flag differing from most other flags.
Justice delayed is justice denied
My old people would say wheres your koro he,s at the pa ,, let's replace that word with marae ,, what do, marae mean not,,pa now can we see the patten that's show ,kings and Queen's were good at changing things especially words ,, like give my land back , Im the tangata whenua, they say people of the land we say ai they say well our king said your from the land. that we now own sign here ,, Pa,,, Tangata Whenua ,,,, contracts, KINGS AND QEENS NO THAT THERE S A affidavit,, out there
Like tangata whenua,, people of this land ,replace that long name with Maori ,what does Maori mean
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I always under the impression it was derived from our ancient ancestors the Moriori.
@@Manup2daysame thing I rekon. Maori Mori Ori. Moai. He Tangata. He Tangata. He Tangata.
Ko au te awa, ko te awa ko au. 🤷🏽🤷🏽
Maori means "pure"
Some say Maori means ordinary man others say it means original man. In Hebrew Ma-from, Or-light, I- is possessive so it means "From my Light".
Good info but all those songs put me off
Where did you get your interpretation ???it is not correct our language is not what you maori people purport get real truth not pakeha tito e tama
It’s been tampered with Tainui signed we not from north you lie
:|Town pie dah addah kuys|: 😂😂😂🔥🌪️💨
All Indigenous Tupuna were already spiritual people, they did not need to be a Christian to be saved by some white nikkka named Jesus.
Imperial Colonialism banned ALL Indigenous Languages around the planet to divide & conquer for the sole purpose of Corporate wealth of the British Empire.
One world order
What a lot of ignorant nonsense.
Everything Maori have they've taken from someone else lol.
what has maori taken as a whole lol?
You mum never kiss you 😢. Do you know you mum? You feel sad?
This flag belongs to KUPAPA.
Treaty was signed because revelation and salvaging, one world order.
Crap
Becos of the treaty and its misinterpretation by past n present colonial governments has turned NZ into an assumed multicultural lab of democratic deceit and greed
I believe the Monarchy will end very soon and Good riddance too. Maori will finally have more say and control of Aotearoa for the better all the people. Thank you for your video.