As Told By Kenya pointed out that a lot of white [women] authors will include a SUPER beautiful Black character in their books to try to be like “I’m not racist, I said she’s beautiful!”
Does anyone else notice how many bisexual characters are women? I understand that’s mostly due to fetishization but as a bi dude it feels like we get ignored to no end
We don't get great representation.... The only Bi male character I can think of is Oberyn from Game of Thrones. I feel like in society bi women are fetishized and bi men are seen as deviants. Literature seems to have a similar take. Even Oberyn from Game of Thrones is portrayed as this extremely sexual character sleeping with anyone. I love that his character is strong, badass, and loves his family....but he's also portrayed as very promiscuous
i’m working on a novel with a bi male protagonist and i noticed this exact same thing, it’s odd to find bi male characters that aren’t portrayed as a sassy comic relief vampire/demon.
Hi! If you want a Bi man queer fantasy I really recommend Silver Under Nightfall! It is amazing and it so nice to have some a bi man as the main character! Bc yes I do feel like its such erasure. I hope you enjoy!
My knowledge of Latin isn't professional or academic level or anything, but as someone who sometimes translates words into Latin for shitty fantasy names, I do know Nox is literally just Latin for "Night". I think it's the masculine form of Nyx but I might be wrong who knows. Anyway, she really just named the Black character Night.
As someone who is bi and basically writing their own bi fantasy novel, I hated how she represented bisexuals. Not only that but how she represented the black female protagonist. Like, why did she have to be a succubus and work in a brothel? The whole slavery thing didn't sit right with me. I'm okay with slavery in fantasy books AS LONG AS THEY SERVE A PURPOSE but this was just for like, shock value. It also makes me extremely nervous of how she ripped off the Witcher after coming from Reads with Rachel's video. Mostly because my own had been inspired by the Witcher series and I don't want to have it be classified as fanfiction. Even though it's completely different.
there are soooo many parts of this book that could have been good. IF it had gone through a rigorous editing process and beta reading. but nope it’s very much someone who wrote from the heart and but none of the knowledge of writing or history that would make any of these elements work. believe in your writing but look for peoples opinions and be highly skeptical if no one is giving you any criticism is my best recommendation 👍🏻
I'm now watching too many reviews of this book and I'm just flabbergasted that she couldn't grasp the English language because she WAS IN JOURNALISM SCHOOL. How do I know? WE WERE IN THE SAME CLASS. *flips table*
I NEVER feel like anything I write is edited enough no matter how many times I edit it and edit it again. 😭 I don't understand how people just let things go. I could never. I'd 💀 before I let someone read something I don't feel is good. Even the apps like AlphaNovel I'm smacking my head on the desk. Unless someone's first language isn't English then that's one thing or they're like super young. But ffs
On the note of Amaris’ supernatural persuasion powers, I have seen a protagonist with these powers done well. In the Books of Bayern series by Shannon Hale, this ability is called people-speaking, and in the first three books, it’s a gift pretty much exclusively possessed by villains. In the fourth book, however, we meet another character who has the gift of people-speaking, and one of the major conflicts of the book is her fear of her own powers and struggling to be a good person despite her powers making it easy for her to accidentally subvert someone’s free will.
My main comment is too many TikTok authors advertise their books as "Interestingly described character and the sexuality of the other character". It keeps happening with fantasy stories and it turns me away from the book and writer.
Yes! I do get why people want to promote/seek out representation in fiction but as an elgie beetee I don’t feel seen/represented/valued by descriptions like “x is lesbian, y is bisexual, z is asexual” and then nothing else about the character. It just screams performativity
Yes. I'm so turned off by this. I don't care if someone is bi. That should be like a tiny little fraction of the character, not the entire plot. Unless it's a romance. It seems pandering.
💀 I know a lot people got mad at Piper CJ for saying that calling the book sapphic would be “false advertising”, but as a fellow bi, that made me more sad than mad? Like, it felt more like internalized biphobia on the part of the author, that she maybe felt like she didn’t have the “right” to consider the book sapphic. Everything else tho? Yeesh. Thanks for taking one for the team. I’m so glad to see your videos again.
what confused me about that whole situation is that the romance IS sapphic! it’s two women in love. but the author wanted to protect the part of her identity that also likes men. which just seems to shift the focus away from women that like women to men that like women who also like women??? like why is that prevalent at the moment?? bamboozled i tell yah. and thank yah i’m glad to be back 😊
There are surprisingly a lot of people who will defend "sapphic = homosexual lesbians" to their last breath. I loved the word when I was figuring myself out because it didn't feel constraining but I basically got it virtually beat out of me by a bunch of random people online lmao. It could be less about internalized biphobia and more about an unfamiliarity or discomfort with the word sapphic itself. Though, of course, it could very well be the former.
My wife and I are in a sapphic relationship. It’s the way we feel describes our dynamic best. She is bi, and I’m non-binary. I have heard a lot of people give us shit for that online, because it doesn’t fit their version of the word. It’s so strange that it needs to be so divided
it's interesting bc i just checked the author's instagram(bc i wanted to see what she was like) and she posted "tinder pics" of the two girls and nox's just looks like a tan white girl/ambiguously brown(with straight hair)??? i dont know if shes described more like a black girl in the book but still an odd choice.... especially calling her the night and nox, etc.
I will say this as someone with a BFA in Creative Writing and someone with access to google: Stephen King, a professional author, finishes one *draft* (not book, DRAFT) in about 2-3 moths, and The Sun Also Rises by Ernest Hemmingway was written in 3 months. So BEWARE anyone who tells you they wrote a novel in less than three months. Professionals who are considered fast in the industry are still taking months to complete drafts and books.
use my history degree to wave around as a prop. If someone is sold, that connotes some form of slavery, and i am horrified by how irresponsible her depictions of serious concepts are. Many of the examples you give of Nox's depiction in the book are deeply troubling, reminiscent of the portrayal of African American women as immoral seductresses (which was particularly popularized with the advent of jazz and blues in the early 1900s), a trend that is still worryingly present in some media. Great video, very informative :)
The book very clearly showed why this rapid publishing process she wanted is not the best idea and I don't understand why the traditionally published book is still releasing this year. This needs so much work.
A thing I learned from this video is that I need to learn more about queer feminism, and especially black queer feminism. Thank you for the book suggestions!
damn this book's whole genre is white feminism at this point, romance and fantasy are just subgenres id like to add that the whole "threatening to seduce someones husband" scene with nox(?) also REEKS of the literal jim crow era "jezebel" stereotype (the black temptress stealing the good honest white man from his good honest white family) on top of the biphobic trope
I wanted to give this book a shot due to the fact I paid full price at B.A.M, but the writing felt off from the start. The sex trafficking aspect made me uncomfortable, but figured Amaris would spend the book planning to rescue her. The other two books I'm reading held my attention more. I haven't gotten very far and thinking about DNFing it.
The fact she wrote that the BLACK TEENAGE GIRL who was SEX TRAFFICKED and SOLD to a brothel just HAPPENS to be a succubus is fucking sickening. Please tell me I'm not the only one who sees this as victim blaming? the girl who is sold and assaulted just so happens to be a sex demon? this author is disgusting and makes me ashamed to share a sexuality with her.
Whenever I hear about books like this, I always think did nobody say maybe this isn't a good idea or some changes might be needed? I mean, even self published books are read by someone else before being let out into the world, right?🥴🥴🥴
the author says she had sensitivity readers but i’m thinking that it probably was published after only a cursory glance through due to how clunky and poorly written it was…
So there's a quest involving a darker skinned succubus being covered by a brothel madam in the witcher game so you seem to be spot on with the inspiration for that character.
💀💀 What ze fuck is this book? I watched the whole video and heard the whole rant, but the fuck is this book? I’m a history teacher, so I can confidently say, “You do not need to portray a black character as a slave or a hyper sexual being! If it’s not historical fiction, nonfiction, or a memoir, don’t do it. Just don’t.” It is lazy writing. Also, reducing Knox into all of this is problematic as hell. I’m not against sex work at all, if a person does it, then cool. None of my business. However, GR has listed this book as YA, which in of itself is problematic. Why are so many YA books coming out with toxic relationships? Can we not portray healthy relationships? If you want to read queer books, I have sooo many other good recommendations.
what im so frustrated by is that queer black sex workers exist and their stories are important. but if you don't do the research to get it right then you have no business writing a story that isn't yours to tell. seems remarkably simple to me but what do i know, i'm just a mean book reviewer on the internet....
Ooh glad to hear you recommend Legends and Lattes. I got it a while back and have been meaning to read it. I love supporting indie authors (especially if I meet them at a convention or Renaissance faire), but a lot of them do need to get better at accepting constructive criticism. And editors.
The more I learn about this travesty of a book, the more I’m convinced PCJ just wrote a self insert Witcher fanfic. It should have been relegated to the depths of AO3 where it couldn’t victimize those of us who like good writing 😂
I am a bit late to this party but wanted to comment anyways. (I will mention I did not finish it, I just couldn't make it through the whole thing as it's just an awful story, poorly written and very cringy) I started reading this book a few months ago. I heard about it through tiktok. ( I was not aware of Pipers drama until recently) All I heard was that it was a "bisexual fantasy adventure". As a Bisexual person, I was excited and wanted to read it as there doesn't seem to be a ton of representation out there. Needless to say, I was pretty frustrated. From the perspective of a bisexual man, I guess I was just hoping for some representation. I can't be mad at Piper for the plot. She is a bi woman writer with her experiences as a bi woman. I however was a bit frustrated at the branding and marketing she did on tiktok. She put this book out there as a sort of bisexual empowerment story.....In general bi men are the redheaded stepchildren of the LGBTQ+ community. Even the queer community forgets we exist. Pipers tiktok branding did exactly this. She forgot that Bi men exist and that we in fact do want and need representation in media/literature. I just wish she had been more specific that it is a story about queer and bi women. I went into this excited and then quickly realized It's strictly a bi womens story only. On that note, does anyone know of books with strong bi male characters? The only one I can think of is Oberyn Martell from Game of Thrones.
hi friend you’re not late! i’m sorry you had this experience with this book but i can recommend a few books from some of my favorite bi male characters! Six of Crows - Leigh Bardugo (Jesper) Shadowhunter series - Cassandra Clare (Magnus Bane - take this rec with a grain of salt i know it’s not everyone’s cup of tea) Picture of Dorian Gray - Oscar Wilde (Dorian Gray) The City We Became - NK Jemisin Silver Under Nightfall - Rin Chupeco (vampires and a poly relationship what’s not to love?)
@@alilbitmads AHH thank you for the recommendations. Wow how did I forget Dorian Gray? I read that in high school! Ugh now I feel old. Sorry If I seemed like I ranted. I was just so frustrated that Piper was all over tiktok saying it was a bisexual story. Maybe I just had the wrong impression of the representation that would be in it. I got my hopes up and then felt hurt.
I bought the book because of liking her TikTok videos and I won’t lie, I liked it in the beginning- I thought it would be a new fantasy world for me to get lost in but holy hell was it too long and in desperate need of someone to actually edit it and tell her no
Always here for your opinions. Especially when you tear apart the crappy books. I’m forever in your fan club after you lead me to the tethered mage series (been trying and failing ever since to get others to read it 🙈)
24:11 uuuuuh. Wearing gloves to not release powers was not invented by Disney. Loads of characters have had that. For example; Rogue (first published in 1981, heard that she was supposed to be in a comic in 1979 but that got dropped so she's even older) from X-men wore gloves to not use her power on people.
Boy, watching this and have finally finished the second book, you'd definitely be blown away at the second installment. So many triggering things happen to Amaris- throughout it she's attached at the hip with the general with wings, Gad, and she develops such a weird and toxic obsession with him. not to mention the desire she has for him. Bro tries to literally end her, and she wants him by the end of the next chapter. On top of that, halfway through the book and you don't even know what Nox's goal is or what they need to do, but everything is explained within the last 100-200 pages. Literally everything by the last 20 pages. The curse on the land, Nox's parents and Amaris' background, the king of the other kingdom. Its a wild book.
Oof. This book sounds...unfortunate. But speaking of authors who owe writing credits, I think SJM owes one herself to Peter S Beagle, because Amren was totally inspired by Amalthea from The Last Unicorn. She even pretty much directly references a line from The Last Unicorn at the end of ACOWAR Amren: "Do not run. It will attract my attention." Amalthea: "You must never run from anything immortal. It attracts their attention." There's more than this, but that was what sealed the deal for me that it wasn't a coincidence
Not to mention Feyre’s initial meeting with Rhysand is basically the exact same to when Sophie met Howell in Howells Moving Castle. Down to him being dark broody bird man lol.
As far as I’m concerned at this point SJM owes you some serious coin … because she’s living rent free in your thoughts. 😂 I’m not sure how the oxytocin thing was written but it can be done, the author needs to have the book a little more sciencey with stuff they researched from actual medical books/sites and not some work of fiction. I’m wondering if she intended to write a second book to explain some things or if it’s genuinely hastily written to the point she forgot about shit. 💀
its an SJM world we're all just living in it it😆and no there is no "explaining" anything in this book. its just a stream of conscienceness and you have to just roll with it.
Wish I'd heard about how bad this was before I bought it months ago, but at least I know what I'm getting into whenever I get around to reading this dumpster fire 💀 If anyone's reading this and they want better bi rep, Iron Widow by Xiran Jay Zhao is pretty good. And if you want a black sapphic character that isn't a yikes and a half The Unbroken by C.L. Clarke is the best book I've read all year.
Part of me wonders if the stereotypes wouldn't have been as noticeable if the characters actually had... character. Like, if the characters actually had more personality/flaws and an actual arc instead of two personality traits, they would've come off as less stereotypical maybe? I could be wrong, though. Regardless, big yikes. Also this is a good example of why books need sensitivity readers. As a white woman myself, sometimes I forget about my privilege and that I don't have to deal with being stereotyped until it whacks me over the head.
yes it would have improved the book immensely if the characters were fully realized but as most newbie authors tend to do, tropes and stereotypes are much easier to write than fully fledged nuanced characters. it’s how privilege can be revealed without the author even knowing it.
The amount of spelling mistakes honestly tells all we need to know about the care the story was handled with on it's way to being published. Spellcheck is the bare minimum and the book did not even get that 💀
28:58 Ooo do you plan to maybe do a rant video on The Black Witch? I remember I read it a long time ago but I never continued the series cause there was a love triangle about to be and I'm not that keen about that trope. But I'm very interested to hear your thoughts on it because from what I recall it was quite a controversial book.
i made a video on it when the book came out but have since unlisted it. short review: the black witch was one of the most harmful and poorly written books i’ve ever read.
dragon age kinda is famously known for being a fantasy with bisexuals a plenty (tbf not always great rep but still) unless they're not considering video games, that being said there are a number of bisexuals in fantasy books prior to this lol. what an odd marketing strategy.
There's also DA books and they have a fair amount of queer characters! The masked empire for example focuses heavily on Celene and Brialas relationship
I also do the smell thing😂 it’s probably odd but if someone is wearing perfume in real life oftentimes that’s my first impression and if I don’t like it, I’ll have a hard time liking the person
I am going to be honest, i didn't even knew the "Hyper sexual black woman" was a stereotype at all, i though being hyper sexual (No matter the race) was a common trope on books, never noticed the race part.
It's doubly so with black women and other woc. The Jezebel stereotype specifically portraying black women as nothing but purely sexual beings there to waylay and seduce any man in her path, basically to help justify the sexual assault towards them during Jim Crow times.
...okay now I feel really bad for LOVING this book 😅 Like, finished it in a day and preordered the next one immediately loved. Read the second one in like two days too. As a bisexual woman I liked seeing characters that were allowed to actually express their sexuality and openly like women AND men. But I guess there were a lot of issues I missed 😬
this can happen! living with privilege is like having blinders on. it’s ok that you enjoyed the book on the first read through but being able to recognize the harmful stereotypes used in this work as well as others comes with time and educating yourself on what to look for. i enjoyed The Final Strife by Saara El-Arifi thoroughly if you want a recommendation for a fantasy with bisexual protagonist that’s really good!
@@alilbitmads thanks for such an understanding response! I’m literally a teacher trained in culturally responsive arts education i can’t believe I missed all this 🤦🏻♀️ I was aware of a lot of stereotypes but not this one! Edit: okay i’ve read some other reviews now and I feel like a big ol’ dummy. How did I miss all this?? I serious just got so excited about bisexuality and like, dark fae, that I straight up missed some REALLY problematic shit. I’m literally disabled and missed the ableism. How tf? Thank you SO much for this video idek how I would’ve picked it up otherwise considering I am apparently very thick lmao 😅😂
I thought it was kinda of weird to it felt like a sisterly bond at first then all of a suddenly she starts to fall for her and i was like all nox talk about is amaris and barley thinking about her. All she wanted really wss to get stronger.
No one has mentioned this, but funnily enough, some people who knew Piper before she got tiktok famous say that she had been out for years and that her family has never disowned her. Also, she is currently married and yet never mentions it because her spouse is a man.
Im enjoying the book as im reading for what it is, certainly not like high premium quality. But i definitely agree with a lot of your opinions on some plot choices 😅 I just find i enjoy reading really easy books to turn off my brain sometimes and this one does that for me
wait am i just an idiot or did you not say how it ended 😭 i wanna know if they got together in the end and how that was explored (how piper inevitably fucked it up lol). does it just end with amaris escaping the demon pit and,,, that's it?
How did this book reach the biggest Filipino bookstore but a lot of queer bipoc fantasy don't? I know that my country is conservative enough that that bookstore doesn't sell much queer books unless they're very viral, but THIS is what makes it here???
It even did the lesbian relationship worse than the Witcher & both the book & the video game did it... Well for what the series is (written by a cishet Polish man following the dissolvement of the Soviet Union) but bad from a Western standpoint
As someone who 1. is white, 2. is gay, and 3. is a writer, here's my tip on how to write POC and/or queer characters. ... Write them the same as your other characters. For example, the main character of my third, four, and fifth book are POC, and I write them the same as the main characters of the first two, who are white. All of them are gay, two are trans, and two are somewhere on the non-binary spectrum. They aren't any more sexual than the white characters, nor are they ruder, louder, more submissive (stereotype of Pan-Asian people, have to say it because one of them is ethnically Taiwanese) or anything more than the first two. Keep this tip in mind and write good POC characters. P.S: One of them is... a- a... A BISEXUAL!! *Gasp, faint.*
ok i understand what you’re going for here but this can be advice that illuminates unconscious biases. i don’t think piper cj wrote nox “differently” on purpose. i think the character was good intentioned but clearly not well researched. if you are going to write outside of your worldview then researching own voices authors and beta readers is highly important to making sure your own viewpoint doesn’t trampling over a marginalized group you are not apart of.
@@alilbitmadsas a black queer writer, I definitely agree with this! It’s important to listen to how bipoc people and people who experience the world differently than you )be it via their gender, disability, sexuality, etc.) want to be represented and what stereotypes they want to be avoided. There’s so much unconscious bias that seeps through in writing and art that can be harmful and perpetuate prejudiced stereotypes when the author doesn’t mean to do so. Good luck writing! 🤍
So if the book is plagiarizing The Witcher, does this mean that Nox is based on Yennefer? Because that means that the main pairing is inspired by a mother and child duo?!?!? I don't know if this was intentional on the part of the author or if this is another Cassandra Clare incest fanfic moment
the fancast that the author has been using for nox does look like yennefer, but i think this is mostly just lazy writing instead of CC incest situation...
☠ I was going to say I have no idea how to add emoji's on youtube and I refuse to learn, so I was just going to type the word skull. But now I see youtube has added an actual emoji button. So. (SKULL)
TBH, the basic concept of this book sounds cool to me (I haven't read it, and probably won't) but it also sounds like it needed several beta readers and an editor at least. A lot of revisions before releasing. If it had all of that, it might have been a great book.
Huh. I see and enjoy her folklore content, but don't see much of her talking about her book. I had heard about the review situation, but hadn't realised it was the same person
So do her power only work on men or do she know to control it to her will. The reason i azk because she sleeps with the lady but she doesn't die and it seems like every man nox slept with died.
so TRUE! but tiktok has authors responding to readers via video which creates a very different kind of parasocial relationship than you can get from profile pic on twitter.
@@alilbitmads It's easier to just type a response to a tweet than film a video. People have been able to actually interact with their favorite authors on twitter....which has been both good and bad for the authors. Some authors *side eyes JKRowling* have shown their true colors. Years before she came out as a terf on Twitter she told a fan that the fan was nasty for loving Draco Malfoy.
Imagine deliberately facilitating your own kidnapping just to stick it to your brothers. ... I mean tbh as a sibling I could see it happening 😂 Edit: OH MY GOD AS A SIBLING I CAN NOT NOT NOT SEE THE OTHER THING HAPPENING OH GOD MY EARBALLS
Graceling fan chiming in, like there were definitely some problems but I love it regardless, and I read it about once a year. It's gotta be nearly 15 years old now, maybe it just needs a revival
@@schoo9256 I totally agree! for me I couldn't really read through when Katsa was going to the king without Po cause I love their dynamic. but I agree it should totally get a revival!
As Told By Kenya pointed out that a lot of white [women] authors will include a SUPER beautiful Black character in their books to try to be like “I’m not racist, I said she’s beautiful!”
THIS!!
Does anyone else notice how many bisexual characters are women? I understand that’s mostly due to fetishization but as a bi dude it feels like we get ignored to no end
this is very true and the erasure of bi men is a major problem. it’s by far less common to find them in media/literature than it is to find bi women.
Fully agree. Being ignored or unseen sucks, too.
We don't get great representation.... The only Bi male character I can think of is Oberyn from Game of Thrones. I feel like in society bi women are fetishized and bi men are seen as deviants. Literature seems to have a similar take. Even Oberyn from Game of Thrones is portrayed as this extremely sexual character sleeping with anyone. I love that his character is strong, badass, and loves his family....but he's also portrayed as very promiscuous
i’m working on a novel with a bi male protagonist and i noticed this exact same thing, it’s odd to find bi male characters that aren’t portrayed as a sassy comic relief vampire/demon.
Hi! If you want a Bi man queer fantasy I really recommend Silver Under Nightfall! It is amazing and it so nice to have some a bi man as the main character! Bc yes I do feel like its such erasure. I hope you enjoy!
The “SJM school of feminism” line literally had me SCREAMING
i was V proud of that line 😂
At first I thought you meant "Social Justice Marrior" before I went "Ooohhhh....SJM like the...author...." and now I feel kind of stupid 😅
The " I am so pretty so people think I'm stupid and weak, but actually I'm a badass." Is the fine wine cringe that is in too may books.
it’s so repetitive!!! like ok i get she’s Hot AND she Fights!
@@alilbitmads sounds a bit like those books were the lead character is supposed to be hot and powerful, but doesn’t prove it 😂
The first bisexual fantasy... so Girl, Serpent, Thorn; Six of Crows, Iron Widow, and Wench don't count?💀
nope doesn’t count. never happened. disinformation. 😂
Also, pretty sure Sabran (the queen) in the Priory of The Orange Tree was bi as well. She is the most important "side" character in the book.
@@almierae4914 came here to comment exactly that, where is the respect for Sabran?
iron widow has so many issues tho...
Man, SoC was peak
Had no context for this book. But knew the second I heard the name Nox I said, “That’s a black character, isn’t she?”
the subtlety is not there i’m afraid
It's not even the correct name. Nox is the masculine term for night and the feminine counterpart is Nyx. It feels like that was overlooked.
@@MagikLizardthats not really true. Nox is the roman equivalent of Nyx, same goddess of night, no change in gender. Still not a great name choice.
My knowledge of Latin isn't professional or academic level or anything, but as someone who sometimes translates words into Latin for shitty fantasy names, I do know Nox is literally just Latin for "Night". I think it's the masculine form of Nyx but I might be wrong who knows.
Anyway, she really just named the Black character Night.
the subtlety was lacking im afraid
man that is… yikes, i hadn’t noticed that till you pointed it out. also-nyx (νύξ) is night in greek! and nox in latin :D
As someone who is bi and basically writing their own bi fantasy novel, I hated how she represented bisexuals. Not only that but how she represented the black female protagonist. Like, why did she have to be a succubus and work in a brothel?
The whole slavery thing didn't sit right with me.
I'm okay with slavery in fantasy books AS LONG AS THEY SERVE A PURPOSE but this was just for like, shock value.
It also makes me extremely nervous of how she ripped off the Witcher after coming from Reads with Rachel's video. Mostly because my own had been inspired by the Witcher series and I don't want to have it be classified as fanfiction. Even though it's completely different.
there are soooo many parts of this book that could have been good. IF it had gone through a rigorous editing process and beta reading. but nope it’s very much someone who wrote from the heart and but none of the knowledge of writing or history that would make any of these elements work.
believe in your writing but look for peoples opinions and be highly skeptical if no one is giving you any criticism is my best recommendation 👍🏻
I'm now watching too many reviews of this book and I'm just flabbergasted that she couldn't grasp the English language because she WAS IN JOURNALISM SCHOOL. How do I know? WE WERE IN THE SAME CLASS. *flips table*
omg no way!! im not suprised. many newbie authors don't realize even if you have some training you still need to edit your books but that's amazing 😆
I NEVER feel like anything I write is edited enough no matter how many times I edit it and edit it again. 😭 I don't understand how people just let things go. I could never. I'd 💀 before I let someone read something I don't feel is good. Even the apps like AlphaNovel I'm smacking my head on the desk. Unless someone's first language isn't English then that's one thing or they're like super young. But ffs
The book was picked up by the publishing company That fifty shades of grey author started. Take with that as you wish
heard about this after i filmed this video 🤦🏼♀️ it would be that company and that company only.
On the note of Amaris’ supernatural persuasion powers, I have seen a protagonist with these powers done well. In the Books of Bayern series by Shannon Hale, this ability is called people-speaking, and in the first three books, it’s a gift pretty much exclusively possessed by villains. In the fourth book, however, we meet another character who has the gift of people-speaking, and one of the major conflicts of the book is her fear of her own powers and struggling to be a good person despite her powers making it easy for her to accidentally subvert someone’s free will.
I was thinking about the Books of Bayern! An excellent version of the trope, & it sounds like CJ maybe could've learned from it
I love that series!!!!
My main comment is too many TikTok authors advertise their books as "Interestingly described character and the sexuality of the other character". It keeps happening with fantasy stories and it turns me away from the book and writer.
Yes! I do get why people want to promote/seek out representation in fiction but as an elgie beetee I don’t feel seen/represented/valued by descriptions like “x is lesbian, y is bisexual, z is asexual” and then nothing else about the character. It just screams performativity
Yes. I'm so turned off by this. I don't care if someone is bi. That should be like a tiny little fraction of the character, not the entire plot. Unless it's a romance. It seems pandering.
💀 I know a lot people got mad at Piper CJ for saying that calling the book sapphic would be “false advertising”, but as a fellow bi, that made me more sad than mad? Like, it felt more like internalized biphobia on the part of the author, that she maybe felt like she didn’t have the “right” to consider the book sapphic.
Everything else tho? Yeesh. Thanks for taking one for the team. I’m so glad to see your videos again.
what confused me about that whole situation is that the romance IS sapphic! it’s two women in love. but the author wanted to protect the part of her identity that also likes men. which just seems to shift the focus away from women that like women to men that like women who also like women??? like why is that prevalent at the moment?? bamboozled i tell yah. and thank yah i’m glad to be back 😊
There are surprisingly a lot of people who will defend "sapphic = homosexual lesbians" to their last breath. I loved the word when I was figuring myself out because it didn't feel constraining but I basically got it virtually beat out of me by a bunch of random people online lmao. It could be less about internalized biphobia and more about an unfamiliarity or discomfort with the word sapphic itself. Though, of course, it could very well be the former.
My wife and I are in a sapphic relationship. It’s the way we feel describes our dynamic best. She is bi, and I’m non-binary. I have heard a lot of people give us shit for that online, because it doesn’t fit their version of the word. It’s so strange that it needs to be so divided
@@mellsc9412 Ayyyy nonbinary with a bi wife as well! We use a sapphic descriptor too. It really is a shame that discourse like this keeps happening.
it's interesting bc i just checked the author's instagram(bc i wanted to see what she was like) and she posted "tinder pics" of the two girls and nox's just looks like a tan white girl/ambiguously brown(with straight hair)??? i dont know if shes described more like a black girl in the book but still an odd choice.... especially calling her the night and nox, etc.
apparently she's supposed to be south asian
Now I need to go look
I will say this as someone with a BFA in Creative Writing and someone with access to google: Stephen King, a professional author, finishes one *draft* (not book, DRAFT) in about 2-3 moths, and The Sun Also Rises by Ernest Hemmingway was written in 3 months. So BEWARE anyone who tells you they wrote a novel in less than three months. Professionals who are considered fast in the industry are still taking months to complete drafts and books.
use my history degree to wave around as a prop. If someone is sold, that connotes some form of slavery, and i am horrified by how irresponsible her depictions of serious concepts are. Many of the examples you give of Nox's depiction in the book are deeply troubling, reminiscent of the portrayal of African American women as immoral seductresses (which was particularly popularized with the advent of jazz and blues in the early 1900s), a trend that is still worryingly present in some media. Great video, very informative :)
The book very clearly showed why this rapid publishing process she wanted is not the best idea and I don't understand why the traditionally published book is still releasing this year. This needs so much work.
beats me apparently well written books do not matter when it comes to tiktok popularity
A thing I learned from this video is that I need to learn more about queer feminism, and especially black queer feminism. Thank you for the book suggestions!
damn this book's whole genre is white feminism at this point, romance and fantasy are just subgenres
id like to add that the whole "threatening to seduce someones husband" scene with nox(?) also REEKS of the literal jim crow era "jezebel" stereotype (the black temptress stealing the good honest white man from his good honest white family) on top of the biphobic trope
daaaaamn i didn’t even make that connection 😳
if the black character is described as midnight/night in any way I know Im in for a shit show
I wanted to give this book a shot due to the fact I paid full price at B.A.M, but the writing felt off from the start. The sex trafficking aspect made me uncomfortable, but figured Amaris would spend the book planning to rescue her. The other two books I'm reading held my attention more. I haven't gotten very far and thinking about DNFing it.
it does not improve. if you can get your money back you should tbh.
@@alilbitmads I think its late, but I'm selling some back to Amazon. Unfortunately, I will barely get anything from them.
The fact she wrote that the BLACK TEENAGE GIRL who was SEX TRAFFICKED and SOLD to a brothel just HAPPENS to be a succubus is fucking sickening.
Please tell me I'm not the only one who sees this as victim blaming? the girl who is sold and assaulted just so happens to be a sex demon? this author is disgusting and makes me ashamed to share a sexuality with her.
Whenever I hear about books like this, I always think did nobody say maybe this isn't a good idea or some changes might be needed? I mean, even self published books are read by someone else before being let out into the world, right?🥴🥴🥴
the author says she had sensitivity readers but i’m thinking that it probably was published after only a cursory glance through due to how clunky and poorly written it was…
So there's a quest involving a darker skinned succubus being covered by a brothel madam in the witcher game so you seem to be spot on with the inspiration for that character.
💀💀 What ze fuck is this book? I watched the whole video and heard the whole rant, but the fuck is this book? I’m a history teacher, so I can confidently say, “You do not need to portray a black character as a slave or a hyper sexual being! If it’s not historical fiction, nonfiction, or a memoir, don’t do it. Just don’t.” It is lazy writing. Also, reducing Knox into all of this is problematic as hell. I’m not against sex work at all, if a person does it, then cool. None of my business. However, GR has listed this book as YA, which in of itself is problematic. Why are so many YA books coming out with toxic relationships? Can we not portray healthy relationships? If you want to read queer books, I have sooo many other good recommendations.
what im so frustrated by is that queer black sex workers exist and their stories are important. but if you don't do the research to get it right then you have no business writing a story that isn't yours to tell. seems remarkably simple to me but what do i know, i'm just a mean book reviewer on the internet....
@@alilbitmads I agree one hundred percent.
Ooh glad to hear you recommend Legends and Lattes. I got it a while back and have been meaning to read it.
I love supporting indie authors (especially if I meet them at a convention or Renaissance faire), but a lot of them do need to get better at accepting constructive criticism. And editors.
The more I learn about this travesty of a book, the more I’m convinced PCJ just wrote a self insert Witcher fanfic. It should have been relegated to the depths of AO3 where it couldn’t victimize those of us who like good writing 😂
I am a bit late to this party but wanted to comment anyways. (I will mention I did not finish it, I just couldn't make it through the whole thing as it's just an awful story, poorly written and very cringy)
I started reading this book a few months ago. I heard about it through tiktok. ( I was not aware of Pipers drama until recently) All I heard was that it was a "bisexual fantasy adventure". As a Bisexual person, I was excited and wanted to read it as there doesn't seem to be a ton of representation out there. Needless to say, I was pretty frustrated.
From the perspective of a bisexual man, I guess I was just hoping for some representation. I can't be mad at Piper for the plot. She is a bi woman writer with her experiences as a bi woman. I however was a bit frustrated at the branding and marketing she did on tiktok. She put this book out there as a sort of bisexual empowerment story.....In general bi men are the redheaded stepchildren of the LGBTQ+ community. Even the queer community forgets we exist. Pipers tiktok branding did exactly this. She forgot that Bi men exist and that we in fact do want and need representation in media/literature. I just wish she had been more specific that it is a story about queer and bi women. I went into this excited and then quickly realized It's strictly a bi womens story only.
On that note, does anyone know of books with strong bi male characters? The only one I can think of is Oberyn Martell from Game of Thrones.
hi friend you’re not late! i’m sorry you had this experience with this book but i can recommend a few books from some of my favorite bi male characters!
Six of Crows - Leigh Bardugo (Jesper)
Shadowhunter series - Cassandra Clare (Magnus Bane - take this rec with a grain of salt i know it’s not everyone’s cup of tea)
Picture of Dorian Gray - Oscar Wilde (Dorian Gray)
The City We Became - NK Jemisin
Silver Under Nightfall - Rin Chupeco (vampires and a poly relationship what’s not to love?)
@@alilbitmads AHH thank you for the recommendations. Wow how did I forget Dorian Gray? I read that in high school! Ugh now I feel old.
Sorry If I seemed like I ranted. I was just so frustrated that Piper was all over tiktok saying it was a bisexual story. Maybe I just had the wrong impression of the representation that would be in it. I got my hopes up and then felt hurt.
@@AndyBodkinNow I'm getting the strong urge to write a bi man book!
@@cecil2742 Ill read it!!!!
I bought the book because of liking her TikTok videos and I won’t lie, I liked it in the beginning- I thought it would be a new fantasy world for me to get lost in but holy hell was it too long and in desperate need of someone to actually edit it and tell her no
her concept is interesting but it clearly needed a lot more work.
Always here for your opinions. Especially when you tear apart the crappy books. I’m forever in your fan club after you lead me to the tethered mage series (been trying and failing ever since to get others to read it 🙈)
ugh yes!!! i don’t know why it’s not more popular!
24:11 uuuuuh. Wearing gloves to not release powers was not invented by Disney. Loads of characters have had that. For example; Rogue (first published in 1981, heard that she was supposed to be in a comic in 1979 but that got dropped so she's even older) from X-men wore gloves to not use her power on people.
so it’s even more of a cliche than i implied in the video. thanks for sharing!
Haha, i can help with Witcher author's surname! You pronounce his surname Sap (like tree sap) - ko (like co in cocky) - wski (vsky) 😅
thank you!! i was struggling!
💀 I'm glad my curiosity has not led me to pick this book up. I heard it was bad, but I wasn't aware of it's harmful representation. Hard pass
"Some of the best villians have this power" -- Like Renesme and Renee from twilight.
Even talking new age YA!!
"First time bi people in fantasy"??
Magnus Bane: *glimmers perplexedly*
Boy, watching this and have finally finished the second book, you'd definitely be blown away at the second installment. So many triggering things happen to Amaris- throughout it she's attached at the hip with the general with wings, Gad, and she develops such a weird and toxic obsession with him. not to mention the desire she has for him. Bro tries to literally end her, and she wants him by the end of the next chapter. On top of that, halfway through the book and you don't even know what Nox's goal is or what they need to do, but everything is explained within the last 100-200 pages. Literally everything by the last 20 pages. The curse on the land, Nox's parents and Amaris' background, the king of the other kingdom.
Its a wild book.
you will be very interested in the next video methinks….
@@alilbitmads you're a trooper , very interested in seeing your review 😂
Yes legends and lattes!!! I loved it and no one ever talks about it 😭😭
it’s so good!!!
Oof. This book sounds...unfortunate.
But speaking of authors who owe writing credits, I think SJM owes one herself to Peter S Beagle, because Amren was totally inspired by Amalthea from The Last Unicorn.
She even pretty much directly references a line from The Last Unicorn at the end of ACOWAR
Amren: "Do not run. It will attract my attention."
Amalthea: "You must never run from anything immortal. It attracts their attention."
There's more than this, but that was what sealed the deal for me that it wasn't a coincidence
Not to mention Feyre’s initial meeting with Rhysand is basically the exact same to when Sophie met Howell in Howells Moving Castle. Down to him being dark broody bird man lol.
Oh the beauty being connected to goodness... Petrarchan sonnets still have their influence 💀
it’s so frustrating!!! physical attractiveness does not correlate to being a good person!!
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I'm sorry you suffered through this but your take was genuinely so entertaining. Thank you so much lol
The modern words in fantasy is a witcher thing.
Words like " Lactic Acid" are used.
As far as I’m concerned at this point SJM owes you some serious coin … because she’s living rent free in your thoughts. 😂 I’m not sure how the oxytocin thing was written but it can be done, the author needs to have the book a little more sciencey with stuff they researched from actual medical books/sites and not some work of fiction. I’m wondering if she intended to write a second book to explain some things or if it’s genuinely hastily written to the point she forgot about shit. 💀
its an SJM world we're all just living in it it😆and no there is no "explaining" anything in this book. its just a stream of conscienceness and you have to just roll with it.
What is SJM?
💀 First vid of yours I have ever seen, and I am here for the long haul. Ty algorithm!
The not for Piper CJ moment cracked me up
I said on Julian Greystoke’s video that she could add a “more words is good words” to her bingo card.
I’ve been waiting for someone to do a review of this thing🤣
i did what had to be done 😂😅
Wish I'd heard about how bad this was before I bought it months ago, but at least I know what I'm getting into whenever I get around to reading this dumpster fire 💀
If anyone's reading this and they want better bi rep, Iron Widow by Xiran Jay Zhao is pretty good. And if you want a black sapphic character that isn't a yikes and a half The Unbroken by C.L. Clarke is the best book I've read all year.
Part of me wonders if the stereotypes wouldn't have been as noticeable if the characters actually had... character. Like, if the characters actually had more personality/flaws and an actual arc instead of two personality traits, they would've come off as less stereotypical maybe? I could be wrong, though. Regardless, big yikes.
Also this is a good example of why books need sensitivity readers. As a white woman myself, sometimes I forget about my privilege and that I don't have to deal with being stereotyped until it whacks me over the head.
yes it would have improved the book immensely if the characters were fully realized but as most newbie authors tend to do, tropes and stereotypes are much easier to write than fully fledged nuanced characters. it’s how privilege can be revealed without the author even knowing it.
@@alilbitmads That’s very true!
This is the kind of review for this book I was hoping for 💀
☠️ I am so sorry you had to read that but SO happy I didn't.
it is my sacred duty but at what cost?? 🙃😆
the author just posted a video on tiktok about the candles and foods to smell and eat while reading this book 😬
omfg no way 😂😂
@@alilbitmads ikr???
The amount of spelling mistakes honestly tells all we need to know about the care the story was handled with on it's way to being published. Spellcheck is the bare minimum and the book did not even get that 💀
☠️ Hehe. I was never going to read this book but my God what a cluster. Enjoyed your rant!
I guess it could have been worse… there could have been a furby feet fetish.
the forbidden feets 😂🤣
28:58 Ooo do you plan to maybe do a rant video on The Black Witch? I remember I read it a long time ago but I never continued the series cause there was a love triangle about to be and I'm not that keen about that trope. But I'm very interested to hear your thoughts on it because from what I recall it was quite a controversial book.
i made a video on it when the book came out but have since unlisted it. short review: the black witch was one of the most harmful and poorly written books i’ve ever read.
"This is just fanfiction and poorly written at that." My fucking sides!
dragon age kinda is famously known for being a fantasy with bisexuals a plenty (tbf not always great rep but still) unless they're not considering video games, that being said there are a number of bisexuals in fantasy books prior to this lol. what an odd marketing strategy.
There's also DA books and they have a fair amount of queer characters! The masked empire for example focuses heavily on Celene and Brialas relationship
"nothing to be proud about" SENT MEEEEE
I also do the smell thing😂 it’s probably odd but if someone is wearing perfume in real life oftentimes that’s my first impression and if I don’t like it, I’ll have a hard time liking the person
I am going to be honest, i didn't even knew the "Hyper sexual black woman" was a stereotype at all, i though being hyper sexual (No matter the race) was a common trope on books, never noticed the race part.
It's doubly so with black women and other woc. The Jezebel stereotype specifically portraying black women as nothing but purely sexual beings there to waylay and seduce any man in her path, basically to help justify the sexual assault towards them during Jim Crow times.
...okay now I feel really bad for LOVING this book 😅 Like, finished it in a day and preordered the next one immediately loved. Read the second one in like two days too. As a bisexual woman I liked seeing characters that were allowed to actually express their sexuality and openly like women AND men. But I guess there were a lot of issues I missed 😬
this can happen! living with privilege is like having blinders on. it’s ok that you enjoyed the book on the first read through but being able to recognize the harmful stereotypes used in this work as well as others comes with time and educating yourself on what to look for. i enjoyed The Final Strife by Saara El-Arifi thoroughly if you want a recommendation for a fantasy with bisexual protagonist that’s really good!
@@alilbitmads thanks for such an understanding response! I’m literally a teacher trained in culturally responsive arts education i can’t believe I missed all this 🤦🏻♀️ I was aware of a lot of stereotypes but not this one!
Edit: okay i’ve read some other reviews now and I feel like a big ol’ dummy. How did I miss all this?? I serious just got so excited about bisexuality and like, dark fae, that I straight up missed some REALLY problematic shit. I’m literally disabled and missed the ableism. How tf? Thank you SO much for this video idek how I would’ve picked it up otherwise considering I am apparently very thick lmao 😅😂
I thought it was kinda of weird to it felt like a sisterly bond at first then all of a suddenly she starts to fall for her and i was like all nox talk about is amaris and barley thinking about her. All she wanted really wss to get stronger.
I want you to know, some company DID make candles for this book
truly not even a little bit surprised
How do you write a book in 6 days!? Mines taken 3 years and I’ve not even finished a first draft!
the mid roll ad I got for this video was literally an editing software for authors who self publish... the resources were there, just saying lmao
Does anyone actually like this book? Because this seems all over the place. 😆
the creator is very popular on tiktok so defacto people have read it but i dont think they have what we call...discerning tastes...
No one has mentioned this, but funnily enough, some people who knew Piper before she got tiktok famous say that she had been out for years and that her family has never disowned her. Also, she is currently married and yet never mentions it because her spouse is a man.
her being married to a man doesn't invalidate her sexuality but if she did make up the story of being disowned thats pretty fucking Yikes 😳
Im enjoying the book as im reading for what it is, certainly not like high premium quality. But i definitely agree with a lot of your opinions on some plot choices 😅
I just find i enjoy reading really easy books to turn off my brain sometimes and this one does that for me
Yeah, I only kept reading it to see how bad it got. Couldn't finish it after I realized I can't spend that much time with something I dislike.
I subscribed as soon as I seen the little microphone. 😂
wait am i just an idiot or did you not say how it ended 😭 i wanna know if they got together in the end and how that was explored (how piper inevitably fucked it up lol). does it just end with amaris escaping the demon pit and,,, that's it?
they meet up confess their love and then separate again. couldn’t tell yah how or why but it was very underwhelming and stupid 😂
How did this book reach the biggest Filipino bookstore but a lot of queer bipoc fantasy don't? I know that my country is conservative enough that that bookstore doesn't sell much queer books unless they're very viral, but THIS is what makes it here???
I can't get over what a blatant rip off of the Witcher this book is but it doesn't seem to understand anything about what makes the Witcher good
very true! it seems to be inspired by the video game as well not the books.
@@alilbitmads yeah that and season 2 of the show for sure
It even did the lesbian relationship worse than the Witcher & both the book & the video game did it... Well for what the series is (written by a cishet Polish man following the dissolvement of the Soviet Union) but bad from a Western standpoint
@@BooksandBuns yup the Witcher actually has pretty solid queer rep ciri is Bi and in a relationship with a woman
💀 yeah .. super happy I didn't read this.
I'm just now finding this video. I do have a degree in history to wave around like a prop. It's fucked up 😂
As someone who 1. is white, 2. is gay, and 3. is a writer, here's my tip on how to write POC and/or queer characters.
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Write them the same as your other characters. For example, the main character of my third, four, and fifth book are POC, and I write them the same as the main characters of the first two, who are white. All of them are gay, two are trans, and two are somewhere on the non-binary spectrum. They aren't any more sexual than the white characters, nor are they ruder, louder, more submissive (stereotype of Pan-Asian people, have to say it because one of them is ethnically Taiwanese) or anything more than the first two.
Keep this tip in mind and write good POC characters.
P.S: One of them is... a- a... A BISEXUAL!! *Gasp, faint.*
ok i understand what you’re going for here but this can be advice that illuminates unconscious biases. i don’t think piper cj wrote nox “differently” on purpose. i think the character was good intentioned but clearly not well researched. if you are going to write outside of your worldview then researching own voices authors and beta readers is highly important to making sure your own viewpoint doesn’t trampling over a marginalized group you are not apart of.
@@alilbitmadsas a black queer writer, I definitely agree with this! It’s important to listen to how bipoc people and people who experience the world differently than you )be it via their gender, disability, sexuality, etc.) want to be represented and what stereotypes they want to be avoided. There’s so much unconscious bias that seeps through in writing and art that can be harmful and perpetuate prejudiced stereotypes when the author doesn’t mean to do so. Good luck writing! 🤍
So if the book is plagiarizing The Witcher, does this mean that Nox is based on Yennefer? Because that means that the main pairing is inspired by a mother and child duo?!?!? I don't know if this was intentional on the part of the author or if this is another Cassandra Clare incest fanfic moment
the fancast that the author has been using for nox does look like yennefer, but i think this is mostly just lazy writing instead of CC incest situation...
💀 I wasn't going to read this before but after you painstakingly summarized it, I'm REALLY not going to read this. 😂
💀 I love your channel!
The Night & The Moon I see what they did with the title there
well this video was hilarious lol; thanks for saving me money and brain cells and sorry for any you may have lost 🤣
oh and 💀!
☠ I was going to say I have no idea how to add emoji's on youtube and I refuse to learn, so I was just going to type the word skull. But now I see youtube has added an actual emoji button. So. (SKULL)
I will never get over how "night colored" in this book translates to "Ariana Grande colored".
Wait one more time. Who is this video not for?
TOTALLY NOT GERALT LMAOOOOOO
SARAH J MAAS SCHOOL OF FEMINISM
Sarah does owe you money
If piper thinks she can sue me she’s gonna have to deal with my lawyer, Lou. I’m not even worried lmao.
Another book that talks about the fetishization/oversexualization (and thus dehumanization) of WOC: white tears brown scars by Ruby Hamad
Sex work settled the west lololol so confused on this. I'm glad you reviewed this.
wait, so, did Nox and Amaris or whatever actually meet again?
the do very briefly at the end of the book and then they’re separated again.
@@alilbitmads ah, so truly the bi representation we didn't know we needed.
TBH, the basic concept of this book sounds cool to me (I haven't read it, and probably won't) but it also sounds like it needed several beta readers and an editor at least. A lot of revisions before releasing. If it had all of that, it might have been a great book.
yes!!! i see a lot of potential in pipers writing tbh but it’s clear she didn’t care to work on her writing or her concept before publishing
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Girl I'm fuckin' dying.
Huh. I see and enjoy her folklore content, but don't see much of her talking about her book. I had heard about the review situation, but hadn't realised it was the same person
i saw her folklore content first too! I actually really wanted there to be more of that in this book but sadly that is not the case....
I mean the witcher is already plagerism of Elric of Melnibone
So do her power only work on men or do she know to control it to her will. The reason i azk because she sleeps with the lady but she doesn't die and it seems like every man nox slept with died.
Its just dudes
But i guess if you have a penis in general its gonna work
Is your microphone washi-taped to a Harry Potter wand?
yes 😂 yes indeed it is 😂😂
3:42 uh...people have had access to writers on Twitter for YEARS!
so TRUE! but tiktok has authors responding to readers via video which creates a very different kind of parasocial relationship than you can get from profile pic on twitter.
@@alilbitmads It's easier to just type a response to a tweet than film a video. People have been able to actually interact with their favorite authors on twitter....which has been both good and bad for the authors. Some authors *side eyes JKRowling* have shown their true colors. Years before she came out as a terf on Twitter she told a fan that the fan was nasty for loving Draco Malfoy.
Imagine deliberately facilitating your own kidnapping just to stick it to your brothers.
... I mean tbh as a sibling I could see it happening 😂
Edit: OH MY GOD AS A SIBLING I CAN NOT NOT NOT SEE THE OTHER THING HAPPENING OH GOD MY EARBALLS
WAIT YOU HAVE READ GRACELING? I HEAR NOBODY TALK ABOUT IT! (Also, sorry that this is off topic from the video I just really love graceling)
this is the accurate energy people need to bring to graceling 😂
@@alilbitmads That's what I'm saying! it's such a great book I wished people talked about it more
Graceling fan chiming in, like there were definitely some problems but I love it regardless, and I read it about once a year. It's gotta be nearly 15 years old now, maybe it just needs a revival
@@schoo9256 I totally agree! for me I couldn't really read through when Katsa was going to the king without Po cause I love their dynamic. but I agree it should totally get a revival!
💀 This video was a HUGE mood
💀 RIP comrade.
OMG this sounds.... So bad💀
it ‘twas very bad
Also... Amarys is just Ciri. Wtf
Yeah… I’ll pass on this one