a refreshing perspective indeed. I definitely appreciate the React Router team for what they are doing. Haven't used Remix before but am looking forward to React Router v.7.
or just sit with vue. I love that vue doesn't really have big breaking changes and isn't isn't really driven by hype, at the same time, this really eases the work especially when your usual work is in the backend on go services and don't want to relearn everythin on each new thing
The whole React world is so exhausting... I think I'm gonna stick to Rails for the foreseeable future, I'll sprinkle some Vue for the reactivity here and there, but that's it.
Agree with you Daniel. Most of us need is something stable and with a proper open source vision. We can put basic tooling to make something useful, we don't always need fancy frameworks to get work done.
You can make videos like "I tried so you don't have to". So, people watch your video, and they don't have to waste their time and can continue with their lives.
@@DanielBergholz yes please. I know you don't care about tanstack start, but when it is beta in about a year maybe give it a go just for a good vid? As for myself, I think I will just go with React Router v.7.
I know react from versions where only way of doing it was Class Components and Redux had HOC wrapper etc. I learned Nextjs because of SSR/RSC out of box. It has everything someone would need. You can learn other framework just in case you can achieve >2x speed and throughput. Otherwise it should not matter.
Very good strategy indeed. Only learn a new framework if you feel like it's going to 10x our productivity or performance. Otherwise, it's just not worth it
Man I am dying bro react is so hard to me… it is madding I think I’ll just learn vue I hate react at this point there is so much to learn from react as a beginner its is too hard 😂
Hey man, just an off-topic, but thanks for starting making videos speaking english, it motivated me to starting practicing a lot more, specially in github, all my profile, repositories and commits are now in english, because now I can prove that I know how to speak it (ok, I could translate everything on google translate, but at least is something, right? At least I'm doing my best, although I still using google for some words, I didn't write in English since school). I'm practicing and making it something construtive for my carreer at some point, so thanks Daniel for making me have this blow-up. :D
This is my same sentiment. I'm tired of all the new stuff. I've been on the next.js journey and I'm going to stick with it. I have been using vue for work but then all the people championing vue will then face the same thing that React faced, it's not SEO friendly or server side rendered and I know there's Nuxt but haven't used it compared to pure vue so I might as well stick with Next.js
honestly my brain burn out with the js ecosystem, at work i do mostly golang with & react/next but for my personal projects and freelancing i decided to stick with php/laravel it can handle everything and you can have a project running really fast
If you want a job building projects that address problems within the Javascript ecosystem…learn Javascript. If you want a job building projects that address business problems irl...learn Python, Ruby, Go, Elixir...pretty much anything else.
TanStack Start at least has a reputation that backs the project up... TanStack Router, Query and Table are mature React projects. But yeah, Start is in Alpha, it's too soon for people to think about it.
Agree 100%. We should always focus on frameworks that already have a good open-source reputation. That is why I like Remix so much, it's the same team behind react-router
The maintainers are more careful to introduce breaking changes, and they are moving all the cool features from remix back to react-router. Which shows how much they care about legacy applications. Nextjs on the other hand, just keeps breaking stuff and moving too fast to keep up. So I like remix better mostly because of the maintainers
a refreshing perspective indeed. I definitely appreciate the React Router team for what they are doing. Haven't used Remix before but am looking forward to React Router v.7.
or just sit with vue. I love that vue doesn't really have big breaking changes and isn't isn't really driven by hype, at the same time, this really eases the work especially when your usual work is in the backend on go services and don't want to relearn everythin on each new thing
Vue/Nuxt
Javascript framework fatigue is real, I thought I am only one who is getting it.
me too . i got so stressed every year changes .
The whole React world is so exhausting... I think I'm gonna stick to Rails for the foreseeable future, I'll sprinkle some Vue for the reactivity here and there, but that's it.
Agree with you Daniel. Most of us need is something stable and with a proper open source vision. We can put basic tooling to make something useful, we don't always need fancy frameworks to get work done.
You can make videos like "I tried so you don't have to". So, people watch your video, and they don't have to waste their time and can continue with their lives.
@@babakfp great idea, thanks!
@@DanielBergholz yes please. I know you don't care about tanstack start, but when it is beta in about a year maybe give it a go just for a good vid? As for myself, I think I will just go with React Router v.7.
I know react from versions where only way of doing it was Class Components and Redux had HOC wrapper etc. I learned Nextjs because of SSR/RSC out of box. It has everything someone would need. You can learn other framework just in case you can achieve >2x speed and throughput. Otherwise it should not matter.
Very good strategy indeed. Only learn a new framework if you feel like it's going to 10x our productivity or performance. Otherwise, it's just not worth it
Man I am dying bro react is so hard to me… it is madding I think I’ll just learn vue I hate react at this point there is so much to learn from react as a beginner its is too hard 😂
I don’t know, i just use next.js, i used it a lot and it works fine. Im to lazy to switch.
At this point im staying with adonis js.
Hey man, just an off-topic, but thanks for starting making videos speaking english, it motivated me to starting practicing a lot more, specially in github, all my profile, repositories and commits are now in english, because now I can prove that I know how to speak it (ok, I could translate everything on google translate, but at least is something, right? At least I'm doing my best, although I still using google for some words, I didn't write in English since school). I'm practicing and making it something construtive for my carreer at some point, so thanks Daniel for making me have this blow-up. :D
Oh, I have a friend who's English Teacher in a school, she said your english is really good and with almost no accent, congrats.
@@PedroPaulo-fq1oo Thank you so much! And congrats on your journey as well! It gets a lot easier with time 🔥
This is my same sentiment. I'm tired of all the new stuff. I've been on the next.js journey and I'm going to stick with it. I have been using vue for work but then all the people championing vue will then face the same thing that React faced, it's not SEO friendly or server side rendered and I know there's Nuxt but haven't used it compared to pure vue so I might as well stick with Next.js
oh man bro. i see you coming back to elixir very soon 😁
Stay tuned, there is WAY more elixir content incoming 👀
Did i hear Elixir? SUBSCRIBED!! @@DanielBergholz
honestly my brain burn out with the js ecosystem, at work i do mostly golang with & react/next but for my personal projects and freelancing i decided to stick with php/laravel it can handle everything and you can have a project running really fast
That's a wise choice!
I just want a job with plain Javascript at this point
If you want a job building projects that address problems within the Javascript ecosystem…learn Javascript.
If you want a job building projects that address business problems irl...learn Python, Ruby, Go, Elixir...pretty much anything else.
😂😂😂😂
I recently switched to Laravel.
I like Javascript . But I’m tired.
try laravel livewire for reactivity
TanStack Start at least has a reputation that backs the project up... TanStack Router, Query and Table are mature React projects. But yeah, Start is in Alpha, it's too soon for people to think about it.
Agree 100%. We should always focus on frameworks that already have a good open-source reputation. That is why I like Remix so much, it's the same team behind react-router
Great advice
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HELLO THERE 👋
I needed to do this one more time, I'll stop it from now on 🤣
What you like about remix that is not in next? Legit question i just know next
The maintainers are more careful to introduce breaking changes, and they are moving all the cool features from remix back to react-router. Which shows how much they care about legacy applications. Nextjs on the other hand, just keeps breaking stuff and moving too fast to keep up. So I like remix better mostly because of the maintainers
Hold on, isn’t React itself a framework? Are web developers having to use frameworks for a framework now??
That's exactly right 😅
In my previous job, I used Hydrogen, which is a framework built on top of Remix, which is built on top of React
react is a library
Why not plain old HTML CSS and sparkle a little bit of JS ?
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A new JS framework to do what the old framework does... Why JS community? Why?
If you value your time, you should use framework, not NextJS. **ba-dum-tss** 😎