You forgot Hau! His team has some fast pokemon in noivern, raichu and tauros, the rest is pretty slow (starter, flareon, crabominible) you have the tailwind option with noivern or if gen 8 max lighning for raichu, or even speed swap raichu for speed controll but no trick room, tauros has 2 great abilities, and if you want to be gimmicky you can even frost breath with crabominible to activate the anger point. Having no rock resits hurts the team defensively, on a pretty offensively based team. In general i dont think its amazing, but you can do things with it. I would put it in c or d
@@rjbse rapidash isn't even that good (even though I'm using it for my pokemon pearl run) and even in Pokemon Platinum, the only fire types are legit houndoom, flareon, and magmortar pre post game. the type variety in gen 4 was kinda lop sided with barely any electric types (shinx line, pachirisu, pikachu), and dragon types (gibile line)
I never realized this until I played through Crystal with the intention of having Tyranitar on my team this one time, and saw the results myself when I got there. Tyranitar one shot Pikachu, Charizard, and Espeon easily.
I think the reason we remember Diantha as one of the easiest champions to beat is just that this was the first game when we’d fairly easily be overleveled by the time we get to her, unlike most other champions.
Dataminers found out her Trainer AI is braindead. She was partly easy, cause she had the tactical Capabilitys of a Toddler. If she had Explosion, she would use it against a Gengar.
I had a feeling Cynthia was going to be ranked high, which is totally understandable. Anyone who's played against her as a kid without any experience in competitive knows what I'm talking about.
@@CelVini that's why I said his HGSS team instead of his GSC team. If we used his GSC team instead of his HGSS team, then you would be correct in saying that his Espeon would be the exception to having a full team of Pokemon that are capable of Gmaxing.
@@vjoe5389 technically, if he used an eevee instead, then yes his whole team could gigantimax, but as the team stands, yes, espeon is the only one that can't do that
@@gabethyrubenstein7984 Dunno if this is late or what, but in HGSS he actually doesn't have Espeon. It was cut for a Lapras to make it more representative of a Yellow playthrough.
@person person I actually think Leon's team was well put together. Lot of coverage and move sets that cover natural weaknesses. Having said that, I may have some bias because I really like Leon as a champion as well XD
@person person Dragapult would be really cool as his ace, but I still think Charizard fits better because it has more coverage. Plus, because of how well known it is, from the moment you see him you can tell he is going to be strong, but as Dragapult is a very rare late game Pokémon, it wouldn’t have that factor of intimidation.
@person person I don't like Leon because he's like the third or fourth person with a Charizard as the main Pokemon. First there was red. Ash's Charizard is also quite powerful. Alain also has an OP mega Charizard. Now even this guy has a great one. Yet Charizard is average and sometimes below average in real competitive play. The Pokemon has got enough pampering.
@@DYCEQUIRK I just dislike that he has Charizard as the main Pokemon. Honestly how much time would it have taken for them to analyse a good competitive pokemon which people like apart from Charizard?
@@JoshusBarber Actually no. Charizard has got more than enough pampering. It has a cool design, two mega evolutions , Pokemon champions use it. But the reality is that it sucks in competitive battle. I personally never struggled against Charizard. It's that type of Pokemon which can be quite easy to beat even if you're not very skilled.
I think Lance (and most trainers in the first 2 gens) wasn't created with a "team building" idea in mind. They were sort of "realistic" in a setting where you should really struggle to capture and train Pokémon. In that sense having 3 Dragonites is a geat and difficult achievement. So his last Dragonite has better moves because it's the strongest and he wasn't able to train the other 2 in the same way. Indeed his gen2 team is just a continuation from the gen1 team where he still has Dragonair. That being said, I agree with your analysis.
yee, while gary's team is actually really good for battle, they are also hard to find or challenging to raise. rhydon and eggsecutor are from the safari zone(i guess eggs arent rare but he had to go off the beaten path to get anything from safari zone), and alakazam and gyarados are both notoriously tough to raise with abra also being tough to catch. his last two pokemon show that he had a similar beginning to you/went on his own journey, which is also why i think cynthia has roserade and gastradon. we all had those early pokemon that were with us for so long that we would never want to get rid of them...also pedgeot can use fly red is an obvious one for that last point as he literally has a team comprised of all the pokemon given to you in yellow. he literally had the same journey as many people did as far as teams go.
There's also the fact that Lance is meant to be a "fake final boss" in every game that he's in, his team seems intimidating but he's really a warmup for Blue or Red.
I feel like you’re giving lance too much credit there, the reason he has 3 dragonites is just bc they didn’t add any dragons in gen 2 so that’s his only option (also gen 2 as a whole was just super rushed and lazy they road gen 1s coattails real hard and hoped it scraped by, of the 23 pokemon between the 8 gym leaders only only 4 of them are even from gen 2. The elite 4 is a little better with 9/26 being from gen 2 although the best part is the johto champion literally using 0 johto pokemon)
Should’ve used his HGSS version, since his post-game team is honestly quite decent. And his first team is basically identical so both could’ve been analyzed.
@@finnonfilmz His team isn't diverse honestly depending on what starter he has Cynthia's spirit tomb takes out 1/2 of Leon's team also i always thought he should have a good fairy type like togekiss
Maybe offensively and maybe for VGC, but ingame and in singles there's no competition. The resistances & defensive synergy Gastrodon brings is completely invaluable and the fact her team is about 15 levels higher in D/P also helps. In VGC, though, it's a toss-up. If she wants to perform stall with Spiritomb & Milotic then she should choose Gastrodon. If she instead wants to build her team more offensively then the synergy between Chomp & Kiss (especially if it gets Fairy type) is invaluable. I can certainly see why you'd say Kiss is better than Don, but it depends on how the team is built.
She was a real businesswoman, she realized in middle gen 4 how VGC Togekiss would be hugely good in like a decade and dropped Gastrodom to show up in this Wolfey Wideo
Ty,I’m only a singles player,so having this kind of vision for the VGC meta presented to me is really cool,I got to say though,in a singles meta I don’t think Gastro and Kiss outweigh each other,I think they would actually be good together on a team if you swap Milotic for Gastro,giving the team an electric immunity instead of another electric weakness
Cynthia was famously nerfed in Plt, by changing her pkmn to worst ones and lowering the team levels. Gastrodon is a harder foe than Toge, at least in Gen 4, making her easier was the point of such change
Honestly... I would've gone with the most recent appearance of the champion to make it more balanced. Even if you want to ignore PWT from Gen V, in his Gen IV rematch Lance finally learned what the species clause is.
I feel like you should've looked at a champion's final team if they have one. They're usually better than their first team (Lance and Iris get upgraded teams post league battle; N gets four different weather teams in the post game of B2W2; Steven's team gets changed in the ORAS league rematch; In platinum, some of the movesets of Cynthia's pokemon change after you complete stark mountain, and she also gets some new team members in BW and in B2W2; I feel like it's worth mentioning that some champions from gens 1-4 have different team comps, movesets, and put items that are not usually used on champion teams).
Yeah, I thought the same as well. He did make a VGC players top 10 a long time ago, tho, with official tournaments results as the basis, and he himself was third, followed by Seijun Park and Ray Rizzo in that order, I think. I don't remember all the others but it wasn't all that controversial with the results in mind, I think most people would agree with most of that list.
You see, the reason lance has 3 dragonites is actually genious, because one has thunder, one has blizzard and one has fire blast, he has one of each move to fight against sun/rain/hail teams. /s
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The fact that N's parties are made up of the highest level mons you find naturally near the battle location because he only befriends them for a while and then releases them rather than enslaving them
@person person I actually struggled w/ him ngl but a lot of that was bc of the level diff. He’s got cool mons though, with Special attacking C-Soul Kommo-o, Phys/Screen Corviknight, stealth rock Lycanroc, intimidate Luxray, a dope Fake Out Mienshao, and a strong as hell Urshifu that’s pretty challenging if you let him take the Water one. Minimal typing overlaps, too.
To be fair the champions fight in a singles format, so most of the sets aren’t going to function well in VGC. It would probably be much more fair to see how they would do in smogon.
Trace’s team looks like a realistic team that you’d get going through the Kanto region. It doesn’t seem like it was meant to be the most op team. It’s like a tour of the Kanto region
I honestly forgot how good Leon's team was. I remember crushing him without any difficulty, so I was kinda shocked to see how many threats he had, lol.
One problem I see with Cynthia's team is that - without Protect - Garchomp can't EQ next to anything. This, however, isn't as much of a problem with her Platinum team because it has Togekiss over Gastrodon.
Fun Fact about Fling: In Gen 8 only, you can Fling TRs and their base power is equal to the base power of the TR. The strongest two are Leaf Storm and Overheat at 130 BP, making them the strongest possible fling alongside Iron Ball.
@@glacierwolf2155 when I wrote this, I would've recommended something like Obstagoon or Weavile. Right now, easily the best option is Thundurus Incarnate, which can use Fling alongside Defiant to do pretty big damage.
I agree with this list, but I’m curious how different it would look if, instead of limiting it to their first teams, you picked each one’s best team from the entire series, and ranked them from those. Like, Lance could have his HG/SS team, N, one of his B2/W2 teams, Red and Blue, probably one of their gen 7 Battle Tree teams, and Cynthia... well, take your pick. I’m sure Lance would do better at least, but I still wonder how much everyone else would change in relation to each other.
Cynthia's best team is probably Platinum, at least for double's. She doesn't have much of a change to her team, and the changes she does have are worse, for example removing Roserade in favor of Glaceon(A terrible pokemon competitively, especially in double's where ice type is VERY bad.). She even, at one point, removed Milotic for Glaceon(World Tournament in B2/W2) and keeps Roserade.
I did this before myself, but with the singles format. I was very surprised by Steven, whose metagross singlehandedly makes his team usable on ladder, and skarmory was very good too. Cynthia was the best and Leon didn't exist back then. Lance was very meh, Blue was pretty good, Wallace was pretty bad, and I didn't test the others. Although I tested their teams with the optimal moves so idk if that counts
Well Pikachu could knock it out with Light Ball or a petal dance from Venusaur will do the trick. Felt kind of cheated when he was ranked lower becuase he couldn't instantly wipe Tyranitar.
I actually made a Red themed team (w/ Espeon) in Gen 2 for Pokémon Showdown, and actually it did really well, even beating many standard teams. The team is pretty well rounded, and other than somewhat of a weakness to Zapdos, it can catch people off guard. In contrast I made a Blue themed team and it didn't do nearly as well. On paper Red's team may look newbie-ish but in reality it's solid.
12:36 To be fair, he's got two ground immunities, and Cradily is part grass, meaning it's neutral, and can dish out super-effective return hits with giga drain. Honestly, running Steven's pokemon, I'd probably try to run stall/sweep. A Cradily with Recover, Sandstorm/toxic, an attacking move (ancient-power) and ingrain could be an interesting mid-game stopgap, since Ingrain also prevent phasing. Unfortunately, as much as I love Cradily, it's not good enough to be the team's sole ground SE counter.
So he removes the water type when he gets the grass type and dosent add a grass type when he gets the water type What kind of backwards champion design is this?
@@morganr9825 but rhyperior is weak to ice too Seismatoad makes sense that way, but then why isn't Mr rime a different pokemon that counters all of intelleons weaknesses like electric and grass I mean they could've gotten a bug ground, or a fire ground or any dual typing that counter intelleons already limited weaknesses
@@milesandrews6711 Likely because most Pokémon that counter Electric (I.e. Ground) would have a weakness to Grass as well, meaning that Inteleon is still a sitting duck because the Pokémon meant to counteract its weakness shares a type disadvantage with it.
8:54 When talking about Lance, I would've chosen the team he uses in the second round of the League in HeartGold and SoulSilver (Altaria, Garchomp, Salamence, Gyarados, Charizard and Dragonite). However, this team is still very weak against Tyranitar and Ice-types (including Weavile), so he wouldn't get past the D tier anyway 16:09 I think Cynthia's team feels better with Togekiss (which she uses in Platinum) instead of Gastrodon. Average speed, Flying, Fighting and Fire type coverage moves... With Milotic as a Water-type and Garchomp as a Ground-type Mon I see this team more balanced than that with Gastrodon 28:47 Leon's changing cores are Seismitioad-Cinderace, Mr. Rime-Inteleon and Rhyperior-Rillaboom. If I had to choose two of these six Pokémon to complete his team, these would probably be Rhyperior and Inteleon
I think if we include mega Pokémon, even though it’s gen 8, red’s charizard would be mega Y for drought, venu would have chlorophyll for its ability and both will have the pledges.
I would love to see a runback on this sometime in the future, pulling together the best possible team using any Pokemon each champ has used throughout the series. Pokemon Stadium, B2W2 World Tournament, third versions, etc.
Also, cynthia got S tier when we did not even allow her to use her togekiss team from platinum, i would LOVE some teams built around these on the ladder
Love this idea! It would probably take a pretty long time, but what if you did this with the teams Gym Leaders took to the Pokemon World Tournament in BW2? Food for thought!
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Same, I've been doing the same. I actually made one with Storm Drain on a trick room team with Rhyperior/Torkoal (and also a Weavile w/ Surf for Storm Drain/Weakness Policy). But I also have one on a doubles OU team working more for Chlorophyll/After You sun gimmicks. I *really* like the pairing with Torkoal, because a good battler CANNOT safely assume which way it's running and it can cost a lot of strategy altering. I was seriously thinking of asking Wolfey about exploring that exact thing too, but you beat me too it :')
I'm very happy you have ranked Wallace one step ahead of Steven. I knew it was coming. Wallace may have not been the iconic Hoenn champion to Steven, but Wallace has much better Pokemon and has Pokemon that is good against almost all of Steven's team.
2:16 I didn't even realize how bad the early teams were. Imagine bringing Pokemon with moves like Ember and Bite to the Elite Four. It's also funny that Exeggutor has no Grass moves and Rhydon has no Rock or Ground.
Lance party was super strong back in the day due to the lack of typing, and lack of counter toward Dragon type. Hyper Beam is insane back in gen 1~2 era. You don;t get a cd if you ko enemies with Hyper Beam. Blizzard is broken back in the day too. Funnily enough he's probably some of the very few champ that has difficulty. He's overleveled relative to players, his moves are broken due to bad gen 1~2 design. (Dragon was op, some 70% accuracy move was op back in the day)
You could just catch a Graveler near Blackthorn, take it through the poison-ridden Team Rocket arc with Magnitude, and Rock Throw the Dragonites to death.
Lance's Hyper Beam is only broken when he's a member of the E4 in Gen 1, Hyper Beam CD reset on KO was a Gen 1 mechanic that got fixed in Gen 2. Lance's Dragonites really needs more physical moves on his set to make use of that things attack to be a big ol' threat. Return/Double-edge, EQuake, ExSpeed, Body Slam. One should be running Sub as well. Screens too. Make more use of Dragonite's diverse moveset. That's all hypotheticals anyway, he was still pretty damn threatening on most peoples first Gen 2 runs.
For anyone too lazy to watch the video S- Leon, Cynthia A- Blue(Gary) B- Red, Kukui, Cynthia(same name?) C- Wallace, Iris, N D- Steven, Tracer, Alder F(E)- Lance
Like every, single, other thing I've seen, Cynthia comes in first. It's the conclusion, Cynthia is the greatest trainer not only in the anime, but the games as well. Other than like, you. But even then.
I think it would be fairer to rate the champions each in their respective generation of appearance, because Pokemons like Claydol, Spiritomb and Executor were very good in their debut generation but are kinda bad in gen 8
I would've loved a series of videos covering each team in the different metas/generations Like how would Blue with his champ team match up in gen 6 or 7 (Kinda like False swipe gaming)
There are better alternatives for all of trace’s pokemon: dodrio, venusaur, dugtrio, arcanine, starmie, electrode. Then if you play with the typings, marowak becomes nidoking, pidgeot becomes aerodactyl, and jolteon gets replaced by alolan muk (its in the game).
Honestly, I would be pretty surprised if she was the only one! At least from Generation IV and on (I think it might've started sooner, but I can't find anywhere confirming when - I'm only positive that it applies to Generation IV), _all_ NPCs have non-random IVs on their Pokémon - it's just usually determined by Trainer Class rather than on a case-by-case basis. With that in mind, the reason Cynthia has perfect IVs because her Trainer Class is "Champion" and the IVs defined for that class in DPPt happen to be straight 31s. I know no one actually _talks_ about this (probably just because there are no easily accessible data exports with this kind of information for older Generations - I believe people first figured this out about Cynthia literally by using a "catch Trainers' Pokémon" cheat rather than by datamine, haha), but knowing the way the mechanics work, they have to make a conscious choice of some IV value for every Champion - and if they did it for Cynthia, well, why _wouldn't_ they do the same for all of the others? On the other hand, Gen VII changes things up a bit and gives a _major_ step up in the process! For one thing, SM and USUM are the first time that Trainers' IVs are determined on a case-by-case basis, so you'll find more interesting details like Black Belts having maxed Attack on all of their Pokémon (in previous Generations, they would have had to have the same value for every stat, so they would only have maxed Attack if they had all-around perfect IVs). ~As a result, this is the first Gen where I can actually _find_ everyone's IVs!~ Unfortunately, this first bit seems to have worked against Professor Kukui - because they no longer _had_ to give him all 31 IVs to give him a 31 in any stat, they gave each of his Pokémon except his starter a 31/31/31/31/15/15 spread (each with the 15s in two different stats), although his starter still does have all perfect IVs. Meanwhile, Hau loses the 15s and has equal IVs, but he has straight 30s instead of 31s. *But...* more importantly, this is _also_ the *only* Generation where bosses have _EV-trained_ Pokémon even outside of places like the Battle Tower! Kukui and Hau both have two stats maxed out on each of their Pokémon - and they made good choices that suit their roles (like, fast Pokémon have maxed Speed, offensive Pokémon have the relevant offense maxed, and slow/bulky Pokémon and support Pokémon have maxed HP - there are no wasted or questionably distributed points like raising Defense on a sweeper). If we're calling Cynthia impressive just for her Pokémon selection and her IVs, I think the _only_ two EV-trained Champions in the series deserve some credit, too! ~okay I think Trace also has some HP AVs on his Pokémon but they're not maxed and that's the only stat so it barely counts~ While we're on this topic, I can also confirm that Sword and Shield _stopped_ giving EVs to major bosses, which is why probably Leon felt so much easier despite his scary-looking team. There are still a handful of Trainers with EVs, but they're much sparser than Alola's bosses - Piers has HP investment on his Obstagoon only, seemingly to compensate for the fact that he can't Dynamax, and the rest of them are just optional fights: for whatever reason, instead of giving EVs to the Gym Leaders or any story fights, Sword and Shield decided that the three fights that needed to be buffed this way were... that one Rotom guy in Wyndon who gives you its form changing kit, the person with the Eviolite Dottler, and seemingly a cut battle with Ball Guy that never actually happens (they use a Galarian Stunfisk). So yep! *Tl;dr:* I can't confirm this, but it's likely that more Champions have perfect IVs than you think! Also, Kukui and Hau are the only two Champions who have EV trained Pokémon on top of their generally good IVs! There's your fun fact for the day on Champions' stats. C: --- Edit: actually, Leon (in addition to having no EVs) has straight 20s, not straight 30s or 31s - so yeah, _he's_ definitely inferior to Cynthia, haha.
Aw, I was hoping you'd rate them based off their most recent appearance. Lance's team from BW2 doesn't break the species clause at the least, plus a few Champions appear as recent as Gen 7.
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You forgot Hau! His team has some fast pokemon in noivern, raichu and tauros, the rest is pretty slow (starter, flareon, crabominible) you have the tailwind option with noivern or if gen 8 max lighning for raichu, or even speed swap raichu for speed controll but no trick room, tauros has 2 great abilities, and if you want to be gimmicky you can even frost breath with crabominible to activate the anger point. Having no rock resits hurts the team defensively, on a pretty offensively based team. In general i dont think its amazing, but you can do things with it. I would put it in c or d
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Red's team honestly looks like a 10 year old's first competitive team-
WAIT
lmaoo
Sidney J. Duffy **cries in espeon**
Nisha Shakya well eevee did
Nisha Shakya just replace espeon with lapras like he did in every game after the originals.
Best part was when Wolfe got #1 with Red's team
“I wish she had a fire type” in Cynthia’s defense even Flint barely had any fire types. They were SCARCE in gen 4
They had to give Flint Infernape just so he'd have more than 1 fire type
Have people forgotten about rapidash and magmortar?
@@rjbse Rapidash was not even decently good unless it was over leveled with lot of full restores
@@rjbse you couldn't get Magmortar until the post game in DP. Pt fixed that.
@@rjbse rapidash isn't even that good (even though I'm using it for my pokemon pearl run) and even in Pokemon Platinum, the only fire types are legit houndoom, flareon, and magmortar pre post game. the type variety in gen 4 was kinda lop sided with barely any electric types (shinx line, pachirisu, pikachu), and dragon types (gibile line)
Next challenge: take some of these teams on the ladder
he has to do this wit leons team !
The fact that you can't even run almost all of these teams still bugs me.
some as in like...2 of them
I'd kinda wanna see him ladder with reds team
I came here to say this so I will bump this. Want to see.
Red’s particular weakness to tyranitar is the precise reason he limited larvitar access from trainers who haven’t beaten him yet
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Blue with Tyranitar: "It''s time for revenge!"
Red actively went throughout Johto mandating a limit on Tyranitar? He's like, the wildlife warden now? He's 10 years old 😂
@@Aflay1 Tbf what’s anyone gonna do, stop him? Everything is solved by Pokémon battles, and he’s very simply the best at it /hj
I never realized this until I played through Crystal with the intention of having Tyranitar on my team this one time, and saw the results myself when I got there. Tyranitar one shot Pikachu, Charizard, and Espeon easily.
I think the reason we remember Diantha as one of the easiest champions to beat is just that this was the first game when we’d fairly easily be overleveled by the time we get to her, unlike most other champions.
Damn that exp share
Also once you had Lucario,greninja,Venusuar or charizard or even xern it was over your pretty clear cut after that and you kinda just win the game
I didn't use the exp share though and I still beat her first try
Dataminers found out her Trainer AI is braindead. She was partly easy, cause she had the tactical Capabilitys of a Toddler.
If she had Explosion, she would use it against a Gengar.
I remember fighting the steel elite four member more than I remember diantha
I had a feeling Cynthia was going to be ranked high, which is totally understandable. Anyone who's played against her as a kid without any experience in competitive knows what I'm talking about.
agreed
Definitely when you play this game as your second game.......
The thing is, Cynthia’s platinum team is arguably even better, with togekiss over gastrodon.
Gianluca Fazio same this is still my favorite Pokémon game too
Not knowing what Spiritomb was and getting hit with Embargo hurt my team when her attackers have perfect coverage against those with type advantage.
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I don’t get it? Is that not its real name?
Agent Dandy nah it’s actually called primarina. or is it greninja? idk
Fatso no, it’s called greninja-but-it-looks-worse
I was more distracted by “Cinderachi” and “Dek-i-doo-ee”
"Wallace wants to build a rain team but doesn't have a Drizzle user"
You could give him a Kyogre named "benefit of the doubt"
Or pelipper, god knows hoenn’s full of them, they just didn’t have drizzle until Sun and moon.
wallace dies to freeze dry
Poor Wallace caught the wrong whale...
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Just name the Kyogre "Wailord." No one will notice, trust me.
I just realized that if we have Red use his HGSS team, all his pokemon would be able to use gigantamax
Except Espeon
@@CelVini that's why I said his HGSS team instead of his GSC team. If we used his GSC team instead of his HGSS team, then you would be correct in saying that his Espeon would be the exception to having a full team of Pokemon that are capable of Gmaxing.
@@vjoe5389 technically, if he used an eevee instead, then yes his whole team could gigantimax, but as the team stands, yes, espeon is the only one that can't do that
@@gabethyrubenstein7984 Dunno if this is late or what, but in HGSS he actually doesn't have Espeon. It was cut for a Lapras to make it more representative of a Yellow playthrough.
@@Luzeldon tbh i always liked that more. Made it seem like that was his actual team he had from beating kanto
I think everyone knew Cynthia was going straight to S tier.
@person person I actually think Leon's team was well put together. Lot of coverage and move sets that cover natural weaknesses.
Having said that, I may have some bias because I really like Leon as a champion as well XD
@person person Dragapult would be really cool as his ace, but I still think Charizard fits better because it has more coverage. Plus, because of how well known it is, from the moment you see him you can tell he is going to be strong, but as Dragapult is a very rare late game Pokémon, it wouldn’t have that factor of intimidation.
@person person I don't like Leon because he's like the third or fourth person with a Charizard as the main Pokemon. First there was red. Ash's Charizard is also quite powerful. Alain also has an OP mega Charizard. Now even this guy has a great one. Yet Charizard is average and sometimes below average in real competitive play. The Pokemon has got enough pampering.
@@DYCEQUIRK I just dislike that he has Charizard as the main Pokemon. Honestly how much time would it have taken for them to analyse a good competitive pokemon which people like apart from Charizard?
@@JoshusBarber Actually no. Charizard has got more than enough pampering. It has a cool design, two mega evolutions , Pokemon champions use it. But the reality is that it sucks in competitive battle. I personally never struggled against Charizard. It's that type of Pokemon which can be quite easy to beat even if you're not very skilled.
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Archie would be really low, but Maxie would be absolute bottom tier
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YES
Are we going to ignore the fact that he called Diantha "Diancie" twice and "Cynthia" once without noticing any of those times.
who's diantha
She's that forgettable
I say we Laugh at Diancie, but we cannot ignore the Cynthia. Calling Diantha Cynthia is just wrong.
How do you get your girls mixed up?
EXACTLY, ITS KINDA CRINGEY
@@wookeattan39 Only "cringey" thing I see is your use of caps lock.
Talking about Wallace:
"This is the generation with Rotom"
Sure. Sure it is
lol
14:52 loss of respect initiated. xD
Later he says, "oh this is Gen 4! Then you don't have to worry about Rotom"
@@andyg.610 He said gen 3
He also said fairy was added ‘retroactively’ into gen 4...? Gen 6 was fairy’s first appearance
I love how every single Pokemon of Lance has Hyper Beam. He do be firing his laser.
-dragon team-
-flying team-
HYPERBEAM TEAM H*LL YEAH
@@skygazer6082 only men of culture censor the word h*ll
@@TrulyAtrocious men of culture fuck yeah
He’s like that one preschooler in BW but he actually does have hyper beam
he do be firin his laser from his mouth
I think Lance (and most trainers in the first 2 gens) wasn't created with a "team building" idea in mind. They were sort of "realistic" in a setting where you should really struggle to capture and train Pokémon. In that sense having 3 Dragonites is a geat and difficult achievement. So his last Dragonite has better moves because it's the strongest and he wasn't able to train the other 2 in the same way. Indeed his gen2 team is just a continuation from the gen1 team where he still has Dragonair. That being said, I agree with your analysis.
yee, while gary's team is actually really good for battle, they are also hard to find or challenging to raise. rhydon and eggsecutor are from the safari zone(i guess eggs arent rare but he had to go off the beaten path to get anything from safari zone), and alakazam and gyarados are both notoriously tough to raise with abra also being tough to catch. his last two pokemon show that he had a similar beginning to you/went on his own journey, which is also why i think cynthia has roserade and gastradon. we all had those early pokemon that were with us for so long that we would never want to get rid of them...also pedgeot can use fly
red is an obvious one for that last point as he literally has a team comprised of all the pokemon given to you in yellow. he literally had the same journey as many people did as far as teams go.
Yeah.
But how tf does he have lvl 50 dragonites?
There's also the fact that Lance is meant to be a "fake final boss" in every game that he's in, his team seems intimidating but he's really a warmup for Blue or Red.
I feel like you’re giving lance too much credit there, the reason he has 3 dragonites is just bc they didn’t add any dragons in gen 2 so that’s his only option
(also gen 2 as a whole was just super rushed and lazy they road gen 1s coattails real hard and hoped it scraped by, of the 23 pokemon between the 8 gym leaders only only 4 of them are even from gen 2. The elite 4 is a little better with 9/26 being from gen 2 although the best part is the johto champion literally using 0 johto pokemon)
@@johnsonbaroncaveler6634 Man was farming candies like crazy in Pokemon Go, either that or he took a trip to Alola.
I want to see Cynthia with a VGC capable team in Diamond and Pearl Remakes.
I mean, the Pokemon World Tournament did gave most of the Champions and Gym Leaders much more competitively built teams~
Why VGC capable if it's singles omegalol?
@@antonioblagaic1072 then make it a strong smogon team🤷🏼♂️
@@rjs9228 Well, duh
I want her to be Powerful as fuck a real challenge.Leon was way to easy but to be fair the game was way to easy with all that Exp Share
i just imagine Lance handing in his teamsheet with two dragonairs LOL
If I was his opponent, I'd allow it
two dragonair? he has three dragonites lol
@@Kruzrfam o, shit
Should’ve used his HGSS version, since his post-game team is honestly quite decent. And his first team is basically identical so both could’ve been analyzed.
xd Kruz3r just make one a dragonair and one a dratini lol
“Steven is a singles player” best quote
NikkoVee singles is better than doubles
And brought stall to doubles haha
@@tomoriiiiiii why?
@@tomoriiiiiii incorrect js
Daring Iconoclast more fun. Also I just don’t like dynamax. It affects doubles more.
Cool to see Leon getting some respect here. Always thought his team was pretty solid by the standards of the other champions.
Cynthia would still beat the ever-loving shit out of Leon though
@@finnonfilmz His team isn't diverse honestly depending on what starter he has Cynthia's spirit tomb takes out 1/2 of Leon's team also i always thought he should have a good fairy type like togekiss
@@justasentientmclarenp1879 spiritomb doesn't have the stats to do that
@@AgentLando if you picked cinderace he could have the stats; Mr Rime, Dragapult, and Aegislash
He’s touted as unbeatable, so having that competitive team just makes sense.
Wolfey: I think you would struggle a lot with Red’s Team
Also Wolfey: Gets to #1 without ever losing using Red’s Team
It's wolfey
Both Red and Wolfey are world champs, and thus share the W.C.D required to actually pose a challenge with an uncompetitive team.
Cynthia gets even better in Platinum,where she had Togekiss over Gastrodon
Maybe offensively and maybe for VGC, but ingame and in singles there's no competition. The resistances & defensive synergy Gastrodon brings is completely invaluable and the fact her team is about 15 levels higher in D/P also helps. In VGC, though, it's a toss-up. If she wants to perform stall with Spiritomb & Milotic then she should choose Gastrodon. If she instead wants to build her team more offensively then the synergy between Chomp & Kiss (especially if it gets Fairy type) is invaluable. I can certainly see why you'd say Kiss is better than Don, but it depends on how the team is built.
She was a real businesswoman, she realized in middle gen 4 how VGC Togekiss would be hugely good in like a decade and dropped Gastrodom to show up in this Wolfey Wideo
Ty,I’m only a singles player,so having this kind of vision for the VGC meta presented to me is really cool,I got to say though,in a singles meta I don’t think Gastro and Kiss outweigh each other,I think they would actually be good together on a team if you swap Milotic for Gastro,giving the team an electric immunity instead of another electric weakness
Cynthia was famously nerfed in Plt, by changing her pkmn to worst ones and lowering the team levels. Gastrodon is a harder foe than Toge, at least in Gen 4, making her easier was the point of such change
Yeah,but imagine if instead of swapping Gastro for Kiss,they swapped Milotic,now that would have been tough
Honestly... I would've gone with the most recent appearance of the champion to make it more balanced. Even if you want to ignore PWT from Gen V, in his Gen IV rematch Lance finally learned what the species clause is.
Yeah, and Oak's team is far better in Gen III. No more useless movesets or AI stupidity like Alakazam trying to heal itself at full health.
*audible sigh* “Wallace wanted to use water types and he succeeded”. Didn’t we all know a Wallace when we were growing up.
Joel Richardson-Mason I was Wallace. Slap surf on everything.
@@FizzyCape same. Surf and earthquake is all i needed.
To be fair everyone was Wallace in gen 3 when you had to use a hundred water HMs just to get around.
I was Wallace as well. I love water types
"Steven is a singles player who tried to build a stall team for vgc" omg, so true
I feel like you should've looked at a champion's final team if they have one. They're usually better than their first team (Lance and Iris get upgraded teams post league battle; N gets four different weather teams in the post game of B2W2; Steven's team gets changed in the ORAS league rematch; In platinum, some of the movesets of Cynthia's pokemon change after you complete stark mountain, and she also gets some new team members in BW and in B2W2; I feel like it's worth mentioning that some champions from gens 1-4 have different team comps, movesets, and put items that are not usually used on champion teams).
I thought this was going to be VGC champs for a sec and I was like “oh boy. Gonna be some hot takes and controversy here!”
:O
Yeah, I thought the same as well. He did make a VGC players top 10 a long time ago, tho, with official tournaments results as the basis, and he himself was third, followed by Seijun Park and Ray Rizzo in that order, I think. I don't remember all the others but it wasn't all that controversial with the results in mind, I think most people would agree with most of that list.
Same, I was very concerned
You see, the reason lance has 3 dragonites is actually genious, because one has thunder, one has blizzard and one has fire blast, he has one of each move to fight against sun/rain/hail teams. /s
Y'all sleep on Leon but hes actually really solid. Nobodies beating Cynthia tho and this is coming from a gen 5 fan
:O
Gen 5 gang yee yee
Iain Plank leon is a scrub
Gen 5 is the best
@@phoenixsmash5819 wrong, gen 4 is the best. Gen 5 is really good though
Wolfe: "Every team on Lance's team is a Flying type, so even if he's technically a Dragon type champion, he's actually a Flying type champion."
Every MandJTV fanboy: *"B I R D K E E P E R L A N C E"*
Hail team sky
The fact that N's parties are made up of the highest level mons you find naturally near the battle location because he only befriends them for a while and then releases them rather than enslaving them
"They're kind of the final boss of sorts in the main game,"
*laughs in Alder*
@@sarthakarora3212 nah Cynthia is the superboss of B/W
@person person I actually struggled w/ him ngl but a lot of that was bc of the level diff.
He’s got cool mons though, with Special attacking C-Soul Kommo-o, Phys/Screen Corviknight, stealth rock Lycanroc, intimidate Luxray, a dope Fake Out Mienshao, and a strong as hell Urshifu that’s pretty challenging if you let him take the Water one. Minimal typing overlaps, too.
@person person difficult team if you don't know what your doing, other than that, it's just Komm-O that gives you trouble if you let it set up enough
*sees Steven Stone as D tier*
As a Hoenn baby my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.
:)
@@WolfeyVGC 😆 I knew cynthia would be ranked high but bro D TIER? *sobs*
In singles he could be higher! :D
@@Seloliva1015 oh WAY higher up there with Cynthia lol
@@TheRibottoStudios we gotta wait for the Singles 6v6 list to see Steven get justice lol. Gonna beat Red's ass for sure lol
To be fair the champions fight in a singles format, so most of the sets aren’t going to function well in VGC. It would probably be much more fair to see how they would do in smogon.
Trace’s team looks like a realistic team that you’d get going through the Kanto region. It doesn’t seem like it was meant to be the most op team. It’s like a tour of the Kanto region
I lost it at "he's actually a flying type champion" looool
Where is the lie though, lmao.
Bird keeper Lance
Took 7 years to realize that lance's team before round two had 6 flying type pokemons
*He lied*
@person person you wouldn't even need effort
I honestly forgot how good Leon's team was. I remember crushing him without any difficulty, so I was kinda shocked to see how many threats he had, lol.
Can we just take a moment to appreciate that Wolfe and ZeRo had to settle things with a Bo5 in Rock, Paper, Scissors. Beautiful.
:)
KFCBlaziken And wolfe made all the clutch reads for the W
wait what is this about it sounds like i missed something hilarious
@@maestroeragon latest video on zeros channel, and yes you did :)
Man my favourite players of their respective games made a collab, that was amazing.
wallace wanted to use water types and he honestly succeeded
This had me dying of laughter
One problem I see with Cynthia's team is that - without Protect - Garchomp can't EQ next to anything. This, however, isn't as much of a problem with her Platinum team because it has Togekiss over Gastrodon.
Dude Leon and cynthia would have an absolute killer battle man, gotta happen in the anime
A battle between them is almost guaranteed to happen because of the World Championship ark
Joshu’s Barber yes fluffin please
ash won cuz of plot armor ffs
@@manicyume No one can win if the writers are against them. Not even Cynthia. That's why Ash lost the Sinnoh (and kinda Unova) leagues so badly
Fun Fact about Fling: In Gen 8 only, you can Fling TRs and their base power is equal to the base power of the TR. The strongest two are Leaf Storm and Overheat at 130 BP, making them the strongest possible fling alongside Iron Ball.
Interesting. Anything cool that learns Fling?
@@glacierwolf2155 when I wrote this, I would've recommended something like Obstagoon or Weavile. Right now, easily the best option is Thundurus Incarnate, which can use Fling alongside Defiant to do pretty big damage.
I agree with this list, but I’m curious how different it would look if, instead of limiting it to their first teams, you picked each one’s best team from the entire series, and ranked them from those.
Like, Lance could have his HG/SS team, N, one of his B2/W2 teams, Red and Blue, probably one of their gen 7 Battle Tree teams, and Cynthia... well, take your pick. I’m sure Lance would do better at least, but I still wonder how much everyone else would change in relation to each other.
The Illusionist imo no matter what team Cynthia has shes still s tier lmfao
Exalted Agreed. I’d actually argue her Diamond/Pearl team is the worst one out of all her options and it still got her into S tier lol
All of Cynthia's other teams have Togekiss, which is an automatic plus.
Cynthia's best team is probably Platinum, at least for double's. She doesn't have much of a change to her team, and the changes she does have are worse, for example removing Roserade in favor of Glaceon(A terrible pokemon competitively, especially in double's where ice type is VERY bad.). She even, at one point, removed Milotic for Glaceon(World Tournament in B2/W2) and keeps Roserade.
@@TheKabuto90 i hate togekiss i want it to die a horrible death after battling cynthia in platinum
"itd be easy" they said
"they nerfed her" they said
To be fair to Trace, he didnt had tons of options thanks to Green, Red and Blue being in the game
No one:
Wolfie saying Ar-K-9: Arkin-NENE
Dont forget deck-i-dewey and cinder-ah-chi
Or diance instead of diantha or JY-RAD-OSE
Hearing all the mispronounciations and mistakes kills me inside everytime
That cinderace though XD
It's clearly a bit
Decidueye was the one that killed me
"Jiga Drain"
Jacob Dickman DECKYDUEY IM DEAD
I did this before myself, but with the singles format. I was very surprised by Steven, whose metagross singlehandedly makes his team usable on ladder, and skarmory was very good too. Cynthia was the best and Leon didn't exist back then. Lance was very meh, Blue was pretty good, Wallace was pretty bad, and I didn't test the others. Although I tested their teams with the optimal moves so idk if that counts
“This team doesn’t have much for Tyranitar”
Red literally has a Venasaur and a blastoise
Sandstorm screws over special attackers.
If Tyranitar got set up then it's over.
Both Venusaur and Blastoise doesn't have Rock resistance, so, a buffed Stone Edge is the end of the entire team
Tyranitar sets up over appearojg and being slower than another weather setter.
Well Pikachu could knock it out with Light Ball or a petal dance from Venusaur will do the trick. Felt kind of cheated when he was ranked lower becuase he couldn't instantly wipe Tyranitar.
I actually made a Red themed team (w/ Espeon) in Gen 2 for Pokémon Showdown, and actually it did really well, even beating many standard teams. The team is pretty well rounded, and other than somewhat of a weakness to Zapdos, it can catch people off guard. In contrast I made a Blue themed team and it didn't do nearly as well. On paper Red's team may look newbie-ish but in reality it's solid.
It certainly helps that Gen 2 Snorlax is one of the strongest pokemon of all time.
@@KingKalashnikovhe is still very strong, but not like he was in 1-3, 5, 7 gen games
10:06 That's... true, actually. Lance is actually a Flying-type Champion.
Let’s get this guy to try and pronounce names in the next challenge
Why is god on a Wolfe Glick video
JIGGA DRAIN
FORMY
CINDERACCHI
DEKIDUIE
ARCANENINE
12:36 To be fair, he's got two ground immunities, and Cradily is part grass, meaning it's neutral, and can dish out super-effective return hits with giga drain. Honestly, running Steven's pokemon, I'd probably try to run stall/sweep. A Cradily with Recover, Sandstorm/toxic, an attacking move (ancient-power) and ingrain could be an interesting mid-game stopgap, since Ingrain also prevent phasing. Unfortunately, as much as I love Cradily, it's not good enough to be the team's sole ground SE counter.
Day 20 of asking for Mr. Wolfe Glick to show everyone why they should be wishing Wishiwashi wasn't in SwSh due to its immense power! #WishiwashiSchool
:O
@@WolfeyVGC ~OwO~
Zenith my name is literally WishWahshiii so I would love to see it #WishiwashiSchool
@Psycho Slash Huh? Why?
the best pokemon ever made! He's in my team!
Full respect that’s he’s looking at the teams and ranking them fairly instead of ranking them based of bias
surprised you didn’t take the most recent teams. hgss lance’s rematch team had salamence, gyarados, charizard, altaria, garchomp, and dragonite
When Leon has Rillaboom, he has Rhyperior over Toad, when he has Inteleon, he has Rime.
So he removes the water type when he gets the grass type and dosent add a grass type when he gets the water type
What kind of backwards champion design is this?
@@milesandrews6711 The logic is this:
• Rhyperior counters Fire, Bug, Ice, Poison and Flying-Types (Rillaboom's weaknesses)
• Seismitoad counters Rock and Ground (Cinderace's weaknesses)
• Mr Rime counters Grass (One of Inteleon's weaknesses)
@@morganr9825 but rhyperior is weak to ice too
Seismatoad makes sense that way, but then why isn't Mr rime a different pokemon that counters all of intelleons weaknesses like electric and grass
I mean they could've gotten a bug ground, or a fire ground or any dual typing that counter intelleons already limited weaknesses
@@milesandrews6711 Likely because most Pokémon that counter Electric (I.e. Ground) would have a weakness to Grass as well, meaning that Inteleon is still a sitting duck because the Pokémon meant to counteract its weakness shares a type disadvantage with it.
@@morganr9825 you can make it have a secondary typing that resists grass
Heck Leon could've gotten himself a gliscor with poison heal shenanigans
“So there I was”
Top 10 lines Anime Villains fear
:)
8:54 When talking about Lance, I would've chosen the team he uses in the second round of the League in HeartGold and SoulSilver (Altaria, Garchomp, Salamence, Gyarados, Charizard and Dragonite). However, this team is still very weak against Tyranitar and Ice-types (including Weavile), so he wouldn't get past the D tier anyway
16:09 I think Cynthia's team feels better with Togekiss (which she uses in Platinum) instead of Gastrodon. Average speed, Flying, Fighting and Fire type coverage moves... With Milotic as a Water-type and Garchomp as a Ground-type Mon I see this team more balanced than that with Gastrodon
28:47 Leon's changing cores are Seismitioad-Cinderace, Mr. Rime-Inteleon and Rhyperior-Rillaboom. If I had to choose two of these six Pokémon to complete his team, these would probably be Rhyperior and Inteleon
If this list was made now then Kieran completely dog walks everyone on this list
Wolfey: I think red’s team would struggle on the ladder
Also Wolfey: gets to no.1 undefeated with red’s team
I think if we include mega Pokémon, even though it’s gen 8, red’s charizard would be mega Y for drought, venu would have chlorophyll for its ability and both will have the pledges.
Loved the vid with Zero, also day 1 of asking for more singing with Wolfe...your voice is beautiful!
Thank you!
Are we starting the Wolfe sings train? because Im super on board.
@@itsgigajoule Yes, but the real question is what hashtag?
@@adis1041 #WolfeTunesat200k
This didn't age well
So there Wolfey was, making great wideos daily, giving the best 30 minute intros. Mr. Fish is pleased by this
I would love to see a runback on this sometime in the future, pulling together the best possible team using any Pokemon each champ has used throughout the series. Pokemon Stadium, B2W2 World Tournament, third versions, etc.
"wallace wanted to use water types and he succeeded" will never not make me laugh
Wolfe: Ghost and Dark types are a problem
The dark types in gen 1:
I mean I guess Alolan Raticate???
@@envan7865 Alolan forms count as gen 7
@@zena2239 Yeah, but I guess for Let's Go Eevee and Pikachu. Though that is a gen 7 game. And it's mad easy
@@zena2239 I mean, the only let's go dark types are alolan raticate and mega gyarados
@@ClemenGG Muk and Persian: Am I a joke to you?
Also, cynthia got S tier when we did not even allow her to use her togekiss team from platinum, i would LOVE some teams built around these on the ladder
You forgot USUM's Hau battle. He fulfills the same role as Kukui.
(Not to mention the champion rematch teams, but not every champion has those)
And all the title defense battles
Love this idea! It would probably take a pretty long time, but what if you did this with the teams Gym Leaders took to the Pokemon World Tournament in BW2? Food for thought!
And suddenly Red having Espeon made a lot more sense considering the release of the Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee games.
Day 4 of asking wolfe for “Why Maractus is a threat” I made one on showdown that’s an after u mon with torkoal so it can spam eruptions along with semi trick room plzzz #TheMaractusSchoolBus 🌵🌵👀
Hard agree
The Maractus School Bus will rise up. We will make Maractus OU. No... we must aim higher. We'll make it Uber! Everyone will know the true strength of our cactus maraca boi!
Same, I've been doing the same.
I actually made one with Storm Drain on a trick room team with Rhyperior/Torkoal (and also a Weavile w/ Surf for Storm Drain/Weakness Policy).
But I also have one on a doubles OU team working more for Chlorophyll/After You sun gimmicks.
I *really* like the pairing with Torkoal, because a good battler CANNOT safely assume which way it's running and it can cost a lot of strategy altering.
I was seriously thinking of asking Wolfey about exploring that exact thing too, but you beat me too it :')
Perish, gimmick account
Maractis, a hidden gem
My favorite part of this wideo is Wolf struggling to remember the gen 8 starters.
I'm very happy you have ranked Wallace one step ahead of Steven. I knew it was coming. Wallace may have not been the iconic Hoenn champion to Steven, but Wallace has much better Pokemon and has Pokemon that is good against almost all of Steven's team.
2:16 I didn't even realize how bad the early teams were. Imagine bringing Pokemon with moves like Ember and Bite to the Elite Four. It's also funny that Exeggutor has no Grass moves and Rhydon has no Rock or Ground.
Me: sees Dianthea in B
*A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one*
Lance party was super strong back in the day due to the lack of typing, and lack of counter toward Dragon type.
Hyper Beam is insane back in gen 1~2 era. You don;t get a cd if you ko enemies with Hyper Beam.
Blizzard is broken back in the day too.
Funnily enough he's probably some of the very few champ that has difficulty.
He's overleveled relative to players, his moves are broken due to bad gen 1~2 design. (Dragon was op, some 70% accuracy move was op back in the day)
You could just catch a Graveler near Blackthorn, take it through the poison-ridden Team Rocket arc with Magnitude, and Rock Throw the Dragonites to death.
Lance's Hyper Beam is only broken when he's a member of the E4 in Gen 1, Hyper Beam CD reset on KO was a Gen 1 mechanic that got fixed in Gen 2.
Lance's Dragonites really needs more physical moves on his set to make use of that things attack to be a big ol' threat. Return/Double-edge, EQuake, ExSpeed, Body Slam. One should be running Sub as well. Screens too. Make more use of Dragonite's diverse moveset.
That's all hypotheticals anyway, he was still pretty damn threatening on most peoples first Gen 2 runs.
This ranking is based on gen8. So, the current effects of the moves is counted.
@@NoobGamer-ik4ed I think it's more based on the Gen the champion resides.
It's still trash because you're pretty much on the same level as him when you fight him.
Cynthia has Togekiss in Platinum which make her team even more frightening
For anyone too lazy to watch the video
S- Leon, Cynthia
A- Blue(Gary)
B- Red, Kukui, Cynthia(same name?)
C- Wallace, Iris, N
D- Steven, Tracer, Alder
F(E)- Lance
BLUE IT'S NOT GARY
Are we not gonna talk about “Dekydewy” and the fact that he left out Hau
and "Cinderaki"
hau isnt a champion
“Arcaneenay”
@@calacalamari3977 He is in Ultra S/M
@@stewhv94 he still isn’t the champion , the player is the champion, geez why can’t people understand that🤦🏻
Day 0 of asking Wolfe for Qwilfish is a threat (Wolfe made me restart because apparently Day 87269362 isn’t an accurate count)
:O
No one:
Wolfe: "So there I was..."
Cinderace: *is pronounced Cinderace*
Wolfey: "Cinderachi"
Arcaneeneh
His pronounciation of Gengar is hilarious
"Jireados"
JP likes pineapple and then he pronounced it correctly later
Decidueye as deki-dooy was the best
Rillaboom also lets Leon use the offensive pledge synergy, doubling up on the end of turn damage with Max Wildfire
Listening to you pronounce Cinderace like “Sinder-Achi” was really painful...
Cinder - ace
not “achi”
99% he’s doing it intentionally because he finds it funny, he does that a lot.
Examples: Arcanine as Arca-ni-ni, Gigalith as Jigalith, etc...
Ever notice Wen-ya-soar ?
Never actually thought about this, really interesting video!
Like every, single, other thing I've seen, Cynthia comes in first. It's the conclusion, Cynthia is the greatest trainer not only in the anime, but the games as well. Other than like, you. But even then.
I'm really surprised that Wolfey didn't mention that Lance's team has a quad weakness on 5 of his 6 pokemon
I think it would be fairer to rate the champions each in their respective generation of appearance, because Pokemons like Claydol, Spiritomb and Executor were very good in their debut generation but are kinda bad in gen 8
"Where gonna judge the champions by their meta"
"Pidgeot could use Tailwind, I would put Giga Drain on Exeggutor"
Lol ok
Every champion: *has a team built specifically for singleplayer*
Wolfey: "I'm about to do what's called a pro gamer move"
14:51 "This is the game of Rotom."
Emerald: "Uhhh... no sir?"
Everyone else: Decidueye
This dude: *Decky dewey*
Loved the big sobble part. Lol. I’m going nickname my inteleon that. Nice video wolfey.
I would've loved a series of videos covering each team in the different metas/generations
Like how would Blue with his champ team match up in gen 6 or 7
(Kinda like False swipe gaming)
There are better alternatives for all of trace’s pokemon: dodrio, venusaur, dugtrio, arcanine, starmie, electrode. Then if you play with the typings, marowak becomes nidoking, pidgeot becomes aerodactyl, and jolteon gets replaced by alolan muk (its in the game).
Wolfe: Who’s the strongest champion
Cynthia with her All Perfect IV mons: hold my beer 😂😂
this is assuming all of them have perfect (for VGC) IV's tho
Henrique Erzinger no in game she had prefect IV’s that’s what I’m saying
Honestly, I would be pretty surprised if she was the only one!
At least from Generation IV and on (I think it might've started sooner, but I can't find anywhere confirming when - I'm only positive that it applies to Generation IV), _all_ NPCs have non-random IVs on their Pokémon - it's just usually determined by Trainer Class rather than on a case-by-case basis. With that in mind, the reason Cynthia has perfect IVs because her Trainer Class is "Champion" and the IVs defined for that class in DPPt happen to be straight 31s.
I know no one actually _talks_ about this (probably just because there are no easily accessible data exports with this kind of information for older Generations - I believe people first figured this out about Cynthia literally by using a "catch Trainers' Pokémon" cheat rather than by datamine, haha), but knowing the way the mechanics work, they have to make a conscious choice of some IV value for every Champion - and if they did it for Cynthia, well, why _wouldn't_ they do the same for all of the others?
On the other hand, Gen VII changes things up a bit and gives a _major_ step up in the process!
For one thing, SM and USUM are the first time that Trainers' IVs are determined on a case-by-case basis, so you'll find more interesting details like Black Belts having maxed Attack on all of their Pokémon (in previous Generations, they would have had to have the same value for every stat, so they would only have maxed Attack if they had all-around perfect IVs). ~As a result, this is the first Gen where I can actually _find_ everyone's IVs!~
Unfortunately, this first bit seems to have worked against Professor Kukui - because they no longer _had_ to give him all 31 IVs to give him a 31 in any stat, they gave each of his Pokémon except his starter a 31/31/31/31/15/15 spread (each with the 15s in two different stats), although his starter still does have all perfect IVs. Meanwhile, Hau loses the 15s and has equal IVs, but he has straight 30s instead of 31s.
*But...* more importantly, this is _also_ the *only* Generation where bosses have _EV-trained_ Pokémon even outside of places like the Battle Tower! Kukui and Hau both have two stats maxed out on each of their Pokémon - and they made good choices that suit their roles (like, fast Pokémon have maxed Speed, offensive Pokémon have the relevant offense maxed, and slow/bulky Pokémon and support Pokémon have maxed HP - there are no wasted or questionably distributed points like raising Defense on a sweeper). If we're calling Cynthia impressive just for her Pokémon selection and her IVs, I think the _only_ two EV-trained Champions in the series deserve some credit, too!
~okay I think Trace also has some HP AVs on his Pokémon but they're not maxed and that's the only stat so it barely counts~
While we're on this topic, I can also confirm that Sword and Shield _stopped_ giving EVs to major bosses, which is why probably Leon felt so much easier despite his scary-looking team. There are still a handful of Trainers with EVs, but they're much sparser than Alola's bosses - Piers has HP investment on his Obstagoon only, seemingly to compensate for the fact that he can't Dynamax, and the rest of them are just optional fights: for whatever reason, instead of giving EVs to the Gym Leaders or any story fights, Sword and Shield decided that the three fights that needed to be buffed this way were... that one Rotom guy in Wyndon who gives you its form changing kit, the person with the Eviolite Dottler, and seemingly a cut battle with Ball Guy that never actually happens (they use a Galarian Stunfisk).
So yep!
*Tl;dr:* I can't confirm this, but it's likely that more Champions have perfect IVs than you think! Also, Kukui and Hau are the only two Champions who have EV trained Pokémon on top of their generally good IVs! There's your fun fact for the day on Champions' stats. C:
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Edit: actually, Leon (in addition to having no EVs) has straight 20s, not straight 30s or 31s - so yeah, _he's_ definitely inferior to Cynthia, haha.
That Cinderace pronunciation is clawing at my insides
It sounds like an italian race car and i love it
Aw, I was hoping you'd rate them based off their most recent appearance. Lance's team from BW2 doesn't break the species clause at the least, plus a few Champions appear as recent as Gen 7.
Wolfy about Diantha "The weakness to fighting is annoying with the double fossil..."
N: *sweating in corner*
7:11 to hold the players hand more of course.