This discussion is so much needed! More and more young men are falling to extremist ideologies, the Church must take a stand against these dangerous Ideologies and protect the younger generation!
Appreciate this show guys Very informative Went a little hard on us preterists but it’s all good lol Agree with much you discussed on this topic Thank you for offering correction to these brothers with misplaced zeal Keep up the good work
I think that a lot of this comes down to people who are, for lack of a better term, terminally online. Spending too much time on social media and in echo chambers leads to them viewing these ideas as reality since they aren't seeing any other pov's. They think that Twitter or 4chan or whatever represents the majority of people and are more real than their next-door neighbors. This on top of online spaces tending to encourage strong emotions and sensational takes. These folks need some human connection and, for lack of a better term once again, to go touch some grass. If there's any lesson to be learned from 30's Germany, it's that we need to be careful of making decisions based on fear. Any time a leader (on either side) goes with the "Everything is awful and the other side is evil and you must elect me to fix all your problems" talking point we need to stop listening to them. DEEPER TAKE THAT IS ALSO NOT ORIGINAL: the left and right (meaning the more extreme parts of each) are the same, functionally, and use social media to appear much larger than they actually are. Both sides have a sacred cow (abortion, gun rights), both have a "don't let it happen" book (Handmaid's Tale, 1984), both say the other side is going to do something bad to the kids (put the lgbt kids in camps, turn the kids lgbt), etc. OTHER TAKE: Arguing about whether a certain historical group was "right" is waaaay to vague. "Was Hitler right?" About what? German grammar (probably...he spoke it quite effectively)? Operational-level war decisions? Probably not! I guess this comes down to 1) actually read your Bible, 2) don't make decisions based on fear, 3) 4chan != reality, 4) talk to your neighbors.
It doesn't. It's a lot more simple, and complex than that. People are feeling a lot of increased economic pressure. If you know anythijng about global economics, you know things are bad. Really bad. The rising cost of goods is a lot more than greed, it's about climate events decimating crops. When people are down hard, they start looking for scapegoats. In Canada, (where I live), people are turning on immigrants despite the fact immigrants are literally what's propping up programs like our pension plan. There are nearly as many people withdrawing as there are people inputting now, which wasn't the case when those programs started because economic growth and nation growth in advanced economies has stalled and is actually on the decline now. But people blame immigrants and think changing the hat of the political leader will solve the problem when the entire system needs serious reform. And it goes beyond a nation wide reform because nations are shaped by a global fiscal policy and global market that's created this situation. I really think we're about to see a bubble burst in the economy that's going to lead to more isolationist, self-sufficient economies. Look at the US. If Trade ended with China tomorrow, the entire United States economy would collapse. The entire logistical chain that props the country up would dissolve because it's not a country that produces jack shit anymore and all those skills are gone.
Please contact Redeemed Zoomer and encourage him. And pray for him and his wife. There are great forces against this young and faithful brother and he has been discouraged by Christians. Very unfortunate.
@@eg4848 He's really young. I don't think he has a lot of experience with them. James White is just now starting to notice them and he's absolutely disgusted.
1) We all realize we are lied to massively about WW2, a war that resulted from Britain declaring war on Germany and then pursuing a brutal campaign of targeting dense residential areas for mass murder firestorm bombing, mostly of women and children - while stridently refusing any peace talks. 2) To justify the war, the events in the camps were blown wildly out of proportion. This war propaganda grew and metastized over time, eventually becoming what can only be considered the founding mythology of a new religion, and in fact the state religion through much of the West. There is a reason why the events of this period and only these events are illegal to question in so many countries. 3) This utterly irrational and dogmatic religion is strangling our civilization to death and inviting in a once in a thousand year catastrophe for Europe, one that will have dire repercussions that will stretch centuries into the future. So worship of H is just an understandable reaction to the hysterical and divorced from reality comic book demonization of him everyone is saturated from since they're in diapers.
@methodministries I'm not saying I worship him, I'm explaining why people might do. What specific lies did I tell here? Who declared war on who between England and Germany?
@@Sasha-zh6tpEngland was obliged to go to war against Germany because the English had an alliance with the Poles. Germany attacked Poland on September 1, 1939, which by its treaty demands forced England to go to war with Germany. I'm 72, so I won't be around to see what your sick and twisted ilk will do to the world, but I know this about each of you: either you will repent and believe in The Lord Jesus Christ, or you will have a terrible life and at death, you will go to Hell.
How come none of you saying this can actually articulate a point by point refutation of the counter argument? You just say some phrases. "Youre wrong!!!" isn't a well thought out argument. Why can't it also just be that people are doing research into things and finding out information that they have never learned before, that's actually documented, seems to have been hidden from us? For instance, how many people learned about what Germany looked like during the book burning or what kind of books were burned? people see people like you who just trot out whatever we learn from history as if it is definitively been proven fact, then when you asked about these facts, we don't hear any actual facts...we just get 'well this is ACTUALLY what they meant when this was said...' Woke right isnt a thing. At least not in the way that people who are condemning people who have Politically Incorrect views have been using it. Examining history and discovering many things have been left out for the benefit of a narrative is the opposote of critical theory. I don't support Christian nationalism really... This is more of a critique of people who say that history cannot be looked at and don't understand that historians come to a consensus about things based on different factors, some of them could be created due to desire to teach a socially valuable narrative, to create a myth that they think that would be good for a society to learn, thats not entirely based in truth. By the way people who are very anti-zionist typically are as much anti-black, anti- immigration and anti diversity as anyone on the far right, you just have them seeing that Jewish people are primarily the people behind the scenes who have been pushing it. So saying they're switching out white for Jewish really does not work. Most Jewsh people identify as progressive. @@methodministries
This very trend is why I’m more of a fan of 19th century Prussia/Imperial Germany than the wacko ideologues that came later. Any shreds of good to be found in mid 20th century Germany can be even more found in Bismarck’s era (awesome uniforms, general cultural success, affirmation of masculinity, etc).
Agree with almost everything said here, but do you really not believe that context affects meaning, and that some issues and principles are nuanced? We see such a view in people who are left brain dominant. Out of curiosity, are you right handed? Do you play any musical instruments? And is mathematics your strong suit?
A.H. was in fact a Christian. He wanted to become a priest growing up prior to becoming a soldier. He then went on to reference "The Almighty" many times throughout his book Mein Kampf. On top of that he continually talked about God in a significant number of his speeches. Not including all of the 1 on 1 accounts that took place behind closed doors, which obviously wasn't a P.R. stunt, people have attested to after WWII.
@@methodministries An opinion of an individual man does not disprove/negate what came directly from the mouth of A.H. and the significant number of people who personally knew him and who have attested.
@@melissawilkinson2636Sure, Hitler was a "Christian" in some qualified sense. In the same way that Mormons are "Christian". He believed that Jesus was a prophet, and professed a desire to follow in his footsteps of removing the Jews from the temple. But Hitler also: - Expressed a desire for Germany to return to Nordic Paganism. - Thought that Paul was a heretic, and the reason for Christianity's "weak" mindset. - Established and spearheaded "positive Christianity", which denied the deity of Jesus Christ. - Believed that Christianity was obsessed with proving true its obviously false myths, that Science would prove false over time. - Professed that Jesus wasn't a Jew in any sense of the word - not even Ethnically related to the Jewish people. Thus, denying the fundamental prohecies of the Messiah claim. But if you want to call that Christianity, you're free to do that, my friend.
@@ministeriosemmanuel638 Real smooth. Point is he was indeed a Christian. You are attempting to help prove otherwise. All facts were not presented, things were warped and cherry picked. The opinion(s) of the Dr. Does not trump facts.
It's fascinating that you think Naziism is the only alternative to effeminacy. The several million men who served in the Allied Armed Forces to destroy Naziism don't strike me as having been effeminate. Most of the adult men I knew when I was growing up were among them. They certainly weren't girly. Are you so impoverished of historical and spiritual knowledge that you think there was no real masculinity until Naziism came along? You do know, maybe? that many of the early Naziis, such as Ernst Rohm, were gay, and that a significant percentage of gay men are into Nazi derived ritual s&m.
@@bobtaylor170 Not what I said. Immature men are boys. Some boys are girly. No man is girly. Boys aren't fit to take to war, though draftees and corrupt recruiters often do.
Given that you have posted multiple anti-LGBT+ hate videos you have contributed to their radicalisation. Also, John Wesley preached in my village. There is a stand on the very spot that he used to preach. I have stood there with all my bisexual pride.
I don't hate homosexuals. Teaching God's Word against homosexuality is love. It's hate to twist and lie to people about what sins God condemns. This has nothing to do with pushing Nazism.
I know that this has been a forceful rhetoric, but I really want a sincere and genuine answer to this question: What place is there for pride in the presence of God?
John Wesley preached the Bible my friend. He spoke on sexuality and held to Biblical views. You would not have liked his preaching unless you wanted to repent and believe in Jesus.
Race doesn't exist but racism definitely exists. These young men seem to be disgusted by the lack of courage in Boomers and others. Seeker Boomer church was a disaster. James White is not a Seeker Christian Boomer. Very slanderous to accuse him of such.
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This discussion is so much needed!
More and more young men are falling to extremist ideologies, the Church must take a stand against these dangerous Ideologies and protect the younger generation!
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hahaha the church si the source of thsi
Excellent. Keep up the good work!
Thank you!
Reverting to nuance is a famous fallacy called the motte and bailey.
A classical Woke move.
Appreciate this show guys
Very informative
Went a little hard on us preterists but it’s all good lol
Agree with much you discussed on this topic
Thank you for offering correction to these brothers with misplaced zeal
Keep up the good work
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Christofascism has always been a thing. I should know it, I live in a country, Spain, that endured a catholic dictatorship for 40 years.
hitler wasnt christian
I think that a lot of this comes down to people who are, for lack of a better term, terminally online. Spending too much time on social media and in echo chambers leads to them viewing these ideas as reality since they aren't seeing any other pov's. They think that Twitter or 4chan or whatever represents the majority of people and are more real than their next-door neighbors. This on top of online spaces tending to encourage strong emotions and sensational takes. These folks need some human connection and, for lack of a better term once again, to go touch some grass.
If there's any lesson to be learned from 30's Germany, it's that we need to be careful of making decisions based on fear. Any time a leader (on either side) goes with the "Everything is awful and the other side is evil and you must elect me to fix all your problems" talking point we need to stop listening to them.
DEEPER TAKE THAT IS ALSO NOT ORIGINAL: the left and right (meaning the more extreme parts of each) are the same, functionally, and use social media to appear much larger than they actually are. Both sides have a sacred cow (abortion, gun rights), both have a "don't let it happen" book (Handmaid's Tale, 1984), both say the other side is going to do something bad to the kids (put the lgbt kids in camps, turn the kids lgbt), etc.
OTHER TAKE: Arguing about whether a certain historical group was "right" is waaaay to vague. "Was Hitler right?" About what? German grammar (probably...he spoke it quite effectively)? Operational-level war decisions? Probably not!
I guess this comes down to 1) actually read your Bible, 2) don't make decisions based on fear, 3) 4chan != reality, 4) talk to your neighbors.
NYT brain
It doesn't. It's a lot more simple, and complex than that.
People are feeling a lot of increased economic pressure. If you know anythijng about global economics, you know things are bad. Really bad. The rising cost of goods is a lot more than greed, it's about climate events decimating crops. When people are down hard, they start looking for scapegoats. In Canada, (where I live), people are turning on immigrants despite the fact immigrants are literally what's propping up programs like our pension plan. There are nearly as many people withdrawing as there are people inputting now, which wasn't the case when those programs started because economic growth and nation growth in advanced economies has stalled and is actually on the decline now.
But people blame immigrants and think changing the hat of the political leader will solve the problem when the entire system needs serious reform. And it goes beyond a nation wide reform because nations are shaped by a global fiscal policy and global market that's created this situation.
I really think we're about to see a bubble burst in the economy that's going to lead to more isolationist, self-sufficient economies. Look at the US. If Trade ended with China tomorrow, the entire United States economy would collapse. The entire logistical chain that props the country up would dissolve because it's not a country that produces jack shit anymore and all those skills are gone.
@@CaptainSkuzzy
And you are the profound clear headed one who is above their biases.
Keep coming with the theories
Please contact Redeemed Zoomer and encourage him. And pray for him and his wife. There are great forces against this young and faithful brother and he has been discouraged by Christians. Very unfortunate.
RZ doesn't care about anti jewish sentiment he is audience captured by groypers
@@eg4848 He's really young. I don't think he has a lot of experience with them. James White is just now starting to notice them and he's absolutely disgusted.
@@lkae4 who?
1) We all realize we are lied to massively about WW2, a war that resulted from Britain declaring war on Germany and then pursuing a brutal campaign of targeting dense residential areas for mass murder firestorm bombing, mostly of women and children - while stridently refusing any peace talks.
2) To justify the war, the events in the camps were blown wildly out of proportion. This war propaganda grew and metastized over time, eventually becoming what can only be considered the founding mythology of a new religion, and in fact the state religion through much of the West. There is a reason why the events of this period and only these events are illegal to question in so many countries.
3) This utterly irrational and dogmatic religion is strangling our civilization to death and inviting in a once in a thousand year catastrophe for Europe, one that will have dire repercussions that will stretch centuries into the future.
So worship of H is just an understandable reaction to the hysterical and divorced from reality comic book demonization of him everyone is saturated from since they're in diapers.
Lies. Hitler was a genocidal warmonger. And “worship of H”? You admit you worship him? Worship God!
@methodministries I'm not saying I worship him, I'm explaining why people might do.
What specific lies did I tell here?
Who declared war on who between England and Germany?
@@Sasha-zh6tpEngland was obliged to go to war against Germany because the English had an alliance with the Poles. Germany attacked Poland on September 1, 1939, which by its treaty demands forced England to go to war with Germany.
I'm 72, so I won't be around to see what your sick and twisted ilk will do to the world, but I know this about each of you: either you will repent and believe in The Lord Jesus Christ, or you will have a terrible life and at death, you will go to Hell.
@@methodministries
Strawman
How come none of you saying this can actually articulate a point by point refutation of the counter argument? You just say some phrases. "Youre wrong!!!" isn't a well thought out argument.
Why can't it also just be that people are doing research into things and finding out information that they have never learned before, that's actually documented, seems to have been hidden from us? For instance, how many people learned about what Germany looked like during the book burning or what kind of books were burned? people see people like you who just trot out whatever we learn from history as if it is definitively been proven fact, then when you asked about these facts, we don't hear any actual facts...we just get 'well this is ACTUALLY what they meant when this was said...'
Woke right isnt a thing. At least not in the way that people who are condemning people who have Politically Incorrect views have been using it. Examining history and discovering many things have been left out for the benefit of a narrative is the opposote of critical theory.
I don't support Christian nationalism really... This is more of a critique of people who say that history cannot be looked at and don't understand that historians come to a consensus about things based on different factors, some of them could be created due to desire to teach a socially valuable narrative, to create a myth that they think that would be good for a society to learn, thats not entirely based in truth.
By the way people who are very anti-zionist typically are as much anti-black, anti- immigration and anti diversity as anyone on the far right, you just have them seeing that Jewish people are primarily the people behind the scenes who have been pushing it. So saying they're switching out white for Jewish really does not work. Most Jewsh people identify as progressive. @@methodministries
"The road to Hell is paved with good intentions", he says about the Nazis.
The people of Germany who accepted them. What's wrong saying that?
I wish I could find a white man out there who's not attacking his brother for not being antiwhite enough.
This very trend is why I’m more of a fan of 19th century Prussia/Imperial Germany than the wacko ideologues that came later. Any shreds of good to be found in mid 20th century Germany can be even more found in Bismarck’s era (awesome uniforms, general cultural success, affirmation of masculinity, etc).
Agree with almost everything said here, but do you really not believe that context affects meaning, and that some issues and principles are nuanced? We see such a view in people who are left brain dominant. Out of curiosity, are you right handed? Do you play any musical instruments? And is mathematics your strong suit?
Not when it comes to evil. God’s Word makes clear (no nuance) what is good and what is evil.
@@methodministriesAmen!
A.H. was in fact a Christian. He wanted to become a priest growing up prior to becoming a soldier. He then went on to reference "The Almighty" many times throughout his book Mein Kampf. On top of that he continually talked about God in a significant number of his speeches. Not including all of the 1 on 1 accounts that took place behind closed doors, which obviously wasn't a P.R. stunt, people have attested to after WWII.
Watch my interview with Dr. Weikart. He gives all the evidence that Hitler wasn’t a Christian.
@@methodministries An opinion of an individual man does not disprove/negate what came directly from the mouth of A.H. and the significant number of people who personally knew him and who have attested.
@@melissawilkinson2636 Dr. Weikart is still more credible than some guy in the RUclips comment section 😂
@@melissawilkinson2636Sure, Hitler was a "Christian" in some qualified sense. In the same way that Mormons are "Christian". He believed that Jesus was a prophet, and professed a desire to follow in his footsteps of removing the Jews from the temple.
But Hitler also:
- Expressed a desire for Germany to return to Nordic Paganism.
- Thought that Paul was a heretic, and the reason for Christianity's "weak" mindset.
- Established and spearheaded "positive Christianity", which denied the deity of Jesus Christ.
- Believed that Christianity was obsessed with proving true its obviously false myths, that Science would prove false over time.
- Professed that Jesus wasn't a Jew in any sense of the word - not even Ethnically related to the Jewish people. Thus, denying the fundamental prohecies of the Messiah claim.
But if you want to call that Christianity, you're free to do that, my friend.
@@ministeriosemmanuel638 Real smooth. Point is he was indeed a Christian. You are attempting to help prove otherwise. All facts were not presented, things were warped and cherry picked. The opinion(s) of the Dr. Does not trump facts.
Most young men don't want to join Barbie in a pink Hell.
It's fascinating that you think Naziism is the only alternative to effeminacy. The several million men who served in the Allied Armed Forces to destroy Naziism don't strike me as having been effeminate. Most of the adult men I knew when I was growing up were among them. They certainly weren't girly.
Are you so impoverished of historical and spiritual knowledge that you think there was no real masculinity until Naziism came along? You do know, maybe? that many of the early Naziis, such as Ernst Rohm, were gay, and that a significant percentage of gay men are into Nazi derived ritual s&m.
@@bobtaylor170 Not what I said. Immature men are boys. Some boys are girly. No man is girly. Boys aren't fit to take to war, though draftees and corrupt recruiters often do.
We r cooked
Given that you have posted multiple anti-LGBT+ hate videos you have contributed to their radicalisation.
Also, John Wesley preached in my village. There is a stand on the very spot that he used to preach. I have stood there with all my bisexual pride.
I don't hate homosexuals. Teaching God's Word against homosexuality is love. It's hate to twist and lie to people about what sins God condemns. This has nothing to do with pushing Nazism.
You love your sin so much you say it's hate when we stand against it, a doctor isn't meant to affirm sickness as a Christian sin
I know that this has been a forceful rhetoric, but I really want a sincere and genuine answer to this question:
What place is there for pride in the presence of God?
John Wesley preached the Bible my friend. He spoke on sexuality and held to Biblical views. You would not have liked his preaching unless you wanted to repent and believe in Jesus.
@@darthnocturnis3941 I'm proud to be made in the image of God ig, I'm better than those animals lol
uh, because they were right?
Race doesn't exist but racism definitely exists. These young men seem to be disgusted by the lack of courage in Boomers and others. Seeker Boomer church was a disaster. James White is not a Seeker Christian Boomer. Very slanderous to accuse him of such.
Yes. It's disrespectful to treat White in the way they've have.
@methodministries I might be a james white nationalist