The All-Time Best NBA Player From EVERY Major Category
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I think it’s unfair to knock Stockton down like that because of his “iron man career”. That’s a HUGE accomplishment to even last that long at the highest level, let alone at 12 apg. Punishing a player for consistently showing up and playing great for 15+ seasons sounds ridiculous.
I totally agree - like while I think it’s hard to not give the nod to Stockton in this category (and steals tbh), I can accept Magic, but when the reason is because Stockton was so consistent you’ve totally lost my support.
@@jadencasto Stockton is the ALL time leader in 2 of the 5 major stat categories, no other player will ever reach that again.
Yeah you can say for example that magic was simply magic and nobody can beat him, but that last part was just a shitty excuse
Quality over quantity I think is how this is being viewed. Kareem, Malone, LeBron are not better scorers than mj but they all have him beat in total due to longevity. Mj and Stockton are pretty on par in the steals category but mj averaged more per game and more per play off game where it matters more.
10.5 APG over 19 seasons (Stockton) is so much more impressive than 11.2 APG over 13 seasons (Magic). Just because Stockton wasn't a flashy player, he'll never get the recognition he deserves. The fact that he didn't win a championship doesn't have anything to do with the guy's passing ability, but it seems that it does somehow...
I disagree about mid range shots being boring, it’s such a lost art.
btw great vid as usual
Exactly love them especially since I’m not so good with long range
Not boring but in todays game is statistically bad (according to stupid advanced stats). Imagine shooting a shot that is 40 to 50% and just get two points while shooting 30 to 45% but getting three points. Advanced stats make NBA boring.
@@jerrylanary4889 not necessarily true players like, CP3, KD and Demar have proven the mid range is effective just have to be good enough to make them that's all, any scrub can get good at hitting wide open jumpers but not everyone can work a mid range game
Lost arc? Not really, every great scorer today had great success from the mid-range.
And recently, the Cleveland Cavaliers young squad are impressive from those spots.
But, with the great three-point shooter we are seeing today, the mid-range won't be the bread and butter of any offensive schemes, even if the Bucks won it all despite struggling from downtown.
Stockton is never given his flowers and it's sad
I think Stockton should've been the pick for steals tbh, but still great vid as always fam 🔥
The steals argument is just retarded... CP3's average being o.4 lower than the others is a product of the era he plays in, with no handchecking and less passes to the post combined with better and better ball handlers. The guy literally tried to nitpick Wilt's numbers using the context of era but ignored that in the next category
He should've been for passing too
@@potatospud8398 In that case I felt it was completely fine to go either way, maybe just calling it a draw would've been best.
The steals choice however, was probably the closest to an actual "fanboy-pick" I've ever seen from Austin, couldn't really comprehend his argument against Stockton at all
I got glove for steals
@@potatospud8398 nah
Gary Payton is heavily disrespected in this list imo
True
Yeah but anyway if the goat in steals lost what can you expect?
The only way to beat his records now is in nba 2k
@@thegang2262 not really
YEAH I WAS LOOKING FOR THIS COMMENT
And Hakeem
I disagree with the thing that bc Stockton had an iron man career gives less value to his stats and that it gives him an unfair advantage. For me it is the other way around, it takes a lot of skill to be the best on your stat (steals, assists) for almost 20 years. So I would give him the steals goat bc he did it at the same volume as mj on around 500 more games
More things done with in less time is better.... simple Logic..... are you a Lebron fan?
@@donquixotedoflamingo9037 Sustained excellence is better, if not, then Jeremy Lin would be top 25
@@donquixotedoflamingo9037 where does that even come from?😂 I’m talking about Stockton not bron. They both had practicality the same career steals per game. It’s just that Stockton was able to maintain that level for a longer period of time. If more things in less time is better you could argue that drose is the goat because on his third season he already won mvp, Roy, All-Star appearances...
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Those guys are incredible. I don't know how they can make those connections when the subject isn't even flirting with the premise.
On the sidenote, you're right about Stock!
Right on. I never understood the premise for playing less being rewarding. Longevity is a skill within its own. There are several players who still wish they could lace them up, in addition play at an elite level for 15+ years. It only gets tougher, but they continue to produce. Only in basketball it’s frowned upon.
Cal Ripken Jr, Jeter, Emmitt Smith, Brady never get the longevity hate basketball players get.
You mentioned that MJ’s last shot as a Bull to beat the Jazz was a buzzer beater.
It actually wasn’t, there was still time left on the clock.
As a matter of fact, Stockton almost made a three with that time he left
and ray allen shoot the highest percentage in gamewinner higher than mj
2 problems with this for me 1) Hakeem for blocks, no question, moving on 2) you seem biased against long careers, but at the same time you should respect the players for having a long career. Yes, Stockton had many more games than Jordan meaning more steals, but that also meant that Stockton was able to play many more games, a feat in its own right
Edit: also Jose Calderon for free throws, Ik he mentioned it but like, cmon
well the best player doesn’t have the longest career so like just cause you did it for longer doesn’t make it better
@@nocoronaonlycovid-1934 well the best player achieved more in less time
@@franciscogdiaz4647 that’s kinda what i’m saying, best and greatest are 2 different things
Exactly my point the fact that he didn’t even mention Hakeem for blocks is crazy to me.
Stop it, Steph is the best ft shooter EVER. Jose did have an amazing season and just for that I say he’s up there, but cmon now, Steph has the best % for career ever, and has also made more than Calderon by a HUGE margin
How you not even going to mention Hakeem for blocks? I get mark had that 5.6bpg season but hakeem holds the record for total by a considerable margin. Plus he had multiple seasons of 4 plus blocks per game.
Defense in general
If he's gonna give MJ steals because of his offense, Dream wins blocks easily
Preach
Frl, the next best person in blocks has almost 600 less
If only they counted Kareems first few seasons and Wilt and Russell's entire careers
For me, best dunk contest goes to Vince, and best in game dunker goes to Clippers Blake Griffin.
MJ/Kobe had great in game dunks
Austin: Mid Range shots are some of the most boring shots in the game 😒
Rusty: You better shut your f*ckin mouth right now 😡
exactly what I was thinking 😂😂
hakeem > literally anybody else for blocked shots
Wilt or bill Russell >
@@brofiss352 wilt and Russell’s didn’t get counted plus Hakeem played against some of the best paint oriented players in nba history: MJ Shaq Clyde Ewing Malone Gervin Worthy Dominique Kemp Barkley just to name a few
@@BravestOfTheBrave i know, but also I watched a Jimmy HIghroller video and he said if they counted all of the blocks, wilt would average 8.4 blocks per game
@@BravestOfTheBrave wilt blocked hakeems sky hook several times. Many claim that was the most dominant and unstoppable shot in basketball. So wilt blocks even though uncounted are better
@@d.columbia9603 idk what your talking about because Wilt was in his grave by the time Hakeem was playing.
fire vid bro, keep it up
Finally high praise . Great video
Rodman is very underrated all time.
One tiny mistake at the end. MJs shot over Russell was not the last shot of his career
We do not speak about the period that we do not speak about. Twas his final shot and that is how we leave it.
Nah man I don’t care if Stockton played longer, him being the steal leader by a large margin make him the best
Not necessarily. But I’d say his volume along with him having similar averages should be the dividing factor.
I can guarantee there will be a better 3 point shooter than curry in the future
As long as there is a league players will get better opportunities
Furthermore steph has inspired many people like trae to shoot 3's
Shooting is from talent unlike height or jumping ability which are purely luck
There will be players who start younger shooting 3's and have better form and better of everything
Guarantee
Hot Take: Pistol Pete honestly probably wins best passers in terms of flashiness
If his teammates could even imagine where the ball would end up he'd probably average a couple more assists too...he was amazingly unpredictable
If you’re going flashiness then it’s Jason Williams and there is no competition
Jason williams is flashier imo
Least fun to play HORSE against if you know frfr 🤣
I’d say white chocolate for flashiness
3 Point ~ Steph Curry
Dunks ~ Vince Carter
Free Throws ~ Rick Barry
Mid Range ~ Michael Jordan
Passes ~ Magic Johnson
Blocks ~ Mark Eaton
Assists ~ John Stockton
Rebounding ~ Wilt Chamberlain
Steals ~ Chris Paul
Ball handling ~ Kyrie Irving
Defense ~ Dennis Rodman
Buzzer Beaters ~ Damian Lillard
Best ball thief ever is an overlooked spurs legend named Alvin Robertson he averaged 3 steals 6 times and has the highest career average are 2.7 and the highest in an NBA season at 3.7
damn your speech at the end abt mj was pure fax and fire. Nice vid bro
I think Giannis would be able to deal with a prime shaq diesel decently well
yeah because he got muscle and his quick on his feet
He can prolly lock up shaq pretty well
shaq overpower robinson mourning ewin there is no way giannis would stand a chance
@@astorbergonzoni he said decently tf
@@astorbergonzoni and don’t underestimate Giannis the same guy who can overpower Dwight howard I know it’s not prime Dwight but Dwight is still strong
the fact that kobe wasent even mentioned in mid range was so disrespectful
Stockton should have been the pick for the steals
I honestly dont understand the disrespect an all time great like Stockton gets
Broooo Stockton is so disrespected
because of the rings argument
@@TeenWrld no because people prop him up on quantity too much. He deserves all the praise he gets but u have to have context. He was never the caliber of player as some of his pg peers. Never an mvp level player and never had to be the first option on a team. He was the floor general and he was known to be an assist hunter. He wouldn’t shoot and would only look to pass and that would in turn inflate his assist numbers. Now I won’t fault him for that because all the other pgs besides magic and Big O essentially did the same thing. But magic quality of playmaking was just a bit more effective on the sucess of his team.. and magic did it without sacrificing the rest of his game. He was gonna still put up his 20 a game and close out too.. Now steals is debatable. I would’ve gone Stockton over mj. But ast is magic by far imo
I think Charles is the most underrated rebounder ever. Chuck was grabbing 14 to 16 rebounds back in the day and he's the only 6'5 player in the top 30 list surrounded by a buch of 7 footers.
W although kd should’ve had mid range for sure. He’s just more efficient from there while being able to simply shoot over anyone and rarely has to even make a move or fake. He also averages more ppg from the mid range so it’s definitely him.
Mj shot far more and was just as efficient. Kd doesn’t take enough shots to justify him being over someone with 30000+ points
Tf Kd lover
Can you do the best all time player at each major statistic? ( I.e Hakeem for blocks)
Wilt for blocks
@@benthebot4536 no
@@arvidjosefsson35 yes
@@arvidjosefsson35 yes
Kobe and AI had a torch on the midrange too.
Ngl I disagree that there won’t even be another steph curry. He’s an amazing player however with how the game has evolved over the past few years, with the increase of 3 pointers and better shooters, there’s just no way it’s not gonna happen. In fact I think it will happen relatively soon. Ppl once thought that Reggie Miller was the greatest shooter of all time, and I imagine steph will be overtaken one day as well
Completely agree
Ben Wallace should have at least got a mention for defense
Personally I find it kindaweird how lebron had no appearance on this list. I feel like he got disrespected
Id say best transition player but nothing else
Lebron may not be the greatest at any category, but he certainly is the greatest all round player ever
Lebron is the greatest in terms of longevity
That's because he isn't elite at anything. Just great at everything
@@youngmelo1841 he is elite athletically, elite in transition, elite at finishing near the rim, elite passer.
But not the best at one single skill jack of all trades
What's crazy is that Jordan Poole just blew up in the league this year and he already has a higher ft% than Stephen Curry who has been the leader for a while. It's also phenomenal that for just the second time (I think) in NBA history, two players from the same team lead in free throw percentages. Still though, some of the takes interested me but overall, it was good!
Yay Austin with another 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 vid
Larry Bird is the most clutch player in my eyes. MJ was absolutely clutch, no doubt about that. But Bird was best in Clutch situations. He was at his best when the game was close, and a big play was needed.
Ima be real with it, that cereal that sponsored this video is sooo nasty lol
my perfect player:
steph curry’s 3pt range and accuracy, and his physical endurance.
KD’s midrange game.
ja morant’s body control and speed.
james garden’s foul drawing ability.
kyrie’s handle.
jokic’s passing and court vision.
john stockton’s durability.
shaq’s strength.
giannis’ build.
kawhi’s on ball defense.
draymond’s defensive IQ and help defense.
gary payton’s stealing ability.
rodman’s rebounding.
bill russell’s leadership.
lebron’s longevity.
jordan’s clutch gene.
kobe’s work ethic and ability to finish in traffic.
I think AD would be better than Draymond at defensive iq and help defense, but other than that I would completely agree
@@neoak47peno82 i gotta disagree. draymond’s defensive iq is so perfect that he even tells his other teammates where to be when he’s on the floor. draymond’s help defense i would argue is also better, because while it would appear they’re about the same level as a help defender, draymond is notably smaller than AD. so since i’m building my dude to be the size and build of giannis that should translate to a better help defender since they’re about the same size.
in any case, this is what my perfect player would look like. maybe do wilt’s endurance instead of curry cause that dude did play every minute of the game in his prime
Starters:
Thomas, Jordan, James, Garnett, Shaq
Reserves:
CP3, Kobe, Pippen, Antetokounmpo, Chamberlain
Top 3 perimeter defenders in my mind
1. Michael Jordan/Kobe
2. Scottie pippen/kawhi
3. Tony allen
Kobe didn't have the defensive longevity for him to be that high
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@@ikevogan381 12Time all defense🤨
@@jaysenbustamante9926 his own coach said he only made the defensive teams because of his reputations
@@jaysenbustamante9926, there wasn’t really any good defensive shooting guard so Kobe got it automatically
Point guards previous to the 2010s are criminally underrated
The fact that stockton got the most steals in the league and no one even comes close makes him the best when it comes to steals
Alvin Robertson is the best stealer IMO and since that’s kind of based statistically for steals it is safe to say he’s the best 2.7 highest average in a career 3x steals champ and could easily grab 3 per game as he even has the highest steals per game in a season being 3.7
I think KD is a better Midrange Shooter than MJ, to think of how easy he does it and the efficiency? That's Mad
Great video. We have a few differences in opinion though. I think Hakeem takes the edge in shot blocking. The all time best at steals you have basically based on seasons played. I feel like Alvin Robertson is the greatest all time his career was not very long though. And Rebounding is Dennis IMO. Wilt and Russell’s totals are misleading. Pace was faster and shooter were less efficient so there were more opportunities to get boards. Dennis would’ve averaged 28 back then too
Ain’t no way u gave Dame and Jimmy honorable mentions over the likes of Kobe, Magic, etc for clutch 🤦🏽♂️😭
Dame should be an honorable mention, Jimmy? No
@@suika9172 neither should be an honorable mention. Y’all gas up 2-3 series he performed great and had 2 game winner and ignore the postseason we’re he underperformed. Plus we’re talking about all time clutch too so he (not Jimmy) shouldn’t be an honorable mentions over players like Kobe, Magic, Tim, Shaq, Hakeem, Bird, Curry, Wade, etc.
You should have included a category for most overall because Olajuwon got two quadruple doubles and most five by fives in NBA history. Also he retired all time leading the league in blocks and top top in steals so I think you’re underestimating his value
Video idea: ranking every NBA team starting 5
The block category let me know you know your basketball great video
so shooting and and mid-range is different? shouldnt be mid-range is spilt between mid-range and long distance shooting/treys?
this content is all over the place. i didnt expect GP wasnt mentioned being the best perimeter.
this content is all over the place. i didnt expect GP wasnt mentioned being the best perimeter.
U forgot to mention Jason Kidd and Jayson Williams with the passing 👍🏽
Hakeem is THE best shot blocker EVER no doubt about it
Underrated
What does defending Shaq have to do with perimeter defense?
Magic Spoon looks awesome, I hope they roll these out at the Kroger
This guy hates John Stockton!! Haha!
Fr though lol
Dunk contest: Guys, we need to be honest and include Derrick Jones Jr in the top tier. Look at his portfolio...okay, maybe he falls off because he did miss some attempts but so did Gordon on one dunk...it's close but i think he has the juice. Off the backboard over a man between the legs windmill? Come on now
Personally i say after Ja Morant’s career he will be considered as the greatest dunker of all time. It also could lead to a kind of jordan LeBron debate but instead its a debate on who’s the greatest dunker of all time.
I tried, can't keep watching. These videos are on crack. This guy said Mark Eagan and Matumbo are the 2 best shot blockers. All you have to do is look up leading shot blocker of all times, it's Olajuwon, and it ain't even close. Where does he get his stats?
Do a vídeo about The most scary college records (Like AD blocos numbers) and what happend to the records owners
Man if tacko fall and Bol Bol get on their shit, I feel like they can compete or even beat the block records
kyrie irving for dribbling, steve nash for free throws, john stockton for assists... you didnt even mention pete maravich tho
I would seriously put Alvin Robertson in the convo for steals but I really like this.
This man must hate John Stockton we all praise players like Lebron and Kareem for having amazing longevity but he used it against him in his takes… he had no really good arguments as to why he wasn’t as good as a stealer or passer the magic and mj his only arguments was that magic was flashier and passed to more of his teammates(because magic actually had a really good team with 3-4 scoring options to pass to) and John only passed to Karl. And that MJ is a better stealer of the ball because even tho John has a crazy lead over MJ it was all due to him playing more games witch would be a complement and that MJ was focused on offense and if he could put more effort into playing defense he would’ve have more steals I know this is long but just had to say it like come on🤦🏾♂️
Bro Stockton is so disrespected and in my opinion I think he is the best pure PG of all time as he an all round definition of what a point guard was
How do you not have Gary Payton for steals...or Kawhi for midrange
John Stockton is by far the all time leader in steals and Kawhis midrange doesn’t even compare to mjs 🤣
@@ethanhatfield6075 is lebron gonna be the greatest scorer when he passes kareem? no
@@thisismychannel4174 I don’t like Lebron, MJ is the greatest scorer of all time
@@ethanhatfield6075 kd* mj is the goat kareem is second and Bill Is third
@@thisismychannel4174 yeah lmfao
Good vid, but how you gonna call midrange shots boring but shooting free throws an art?
I never watched the guy play but seeing those highlights of Mark Eaton just aren’t touching Dikembe or Hakeem. It looks like he’s just big and shooters can’t get around him, dude is hardly moving
I feel like Jokic at least deserved a mention for best passers. Everything you said about Magic could be said about Jokic too and he's 1-2 inches taller
Hakeem for blocks
You missed sm in this video, Hakeem for blocks, Pippen should at the very least be mention for perimeter defender, why did you mention LeBron last when mentioning modern clutch players? Per possession, Rodman was a better rebounder than Wilt and the midrange is probably the most aesthetically pleasing shot in the game.
Wow, no mention of the "Pistol", Pete M? I believe Magic even states that he "stole" a lot from "The Pistol". I'm just wondering ...
I think that if your basing it off of stats it’s Stockton for steals but I think Gary Payton should’ve been mentioned
So Jordan and Stockton average about the same number of steals per game but Stockton held that average much much longer so Jordan is better? That’s some sound logic there. Also the reasoning that Jordan had to exert himself on offense so he couldn’t focus as much on defense while Stockton is the all time assist leader and ran the whole offense is hilarious
Those who love Vince Carter; have you ever watched Dominique Wilkins or Shawn kemp play?
I got into this vid from a video and oh boy, what a casual. Raw rebound numbers almost means nothing; players like chamberlain and Russell play almost all 48 minutes per game, and the teams pace were high and efficiency was low. Rodman on the other hand was in a entirely opposite situation. This can be somewhat adjusted by rebound percentage, and Rodman stands out with that metric.
Also, taking about stealing the ball without even mentioning the name of Alvin Robertson is just criminal. He was literally the only (not so sure but probably the first at least) player to achieve a quadruple double with steals!
Another should-be honorable mention for midrange should be Dirk Nowitzki, and you can argue that he’s even more unstoppable due to height. Even when he’s at the age of 35, he can still shoot over 50% from midrange, which is crazy accuracy even without considering how contested his shots are.
Finally, after Rick Barry changed his free throw to granny style, his percentage at the line is over 92%. Had he applied the technique earlier in his career, his career free throw percentage record will probably be unbreakable
Fact: Lavine is better dunker then AG. END OF DEBATE
Nope
stockton could’ve gotten worse with age, but didn’t. being an “iron man” should be an accomplishment
Dennis Rodman averaged 18 boards in the slowest era and wilt played like 43 minutes a game while rodman played 32 and wilt average like 27. If you put wilt in 1990 where people are taking smart shots then Rosman would win
Stocked playing longer isn’t unfair, Jordan just decided to play less than he could
John Stockton had 5 years with more APG than Johnson’s BEST year. Stockton’s longevity actually hurt his per game stats not helped. If by best passer you mean flashiest, then Stockton isn’t the guy. But if you mean most effective passer, then Stockton is the best passer in NBA history and it isn’t even close. Ask Kidd.
Alex English was the best midrange shooter all time. He scored more points during the vaunted ‘80s than any other player and virtually all of them were inside the 3 point line and outside of 10 feet. Jordan was a better player but not a better midrange shooter.
Alvin Robertson is without a doubt the best ball thief in the history of the NBA. He has the all time steals per game career and season, most steals in a season, and the only player in league history to have a quadruple double with steals. The guy was solid all around as well. Unsung guy for sure.
I would agree that Eaton is the best shot blocker since the stat has been kept, but Wilt once blocked 26 shots in a single game. Wilt is absolutely the best shot blocker ever…period.
Wilt is also the best defender in history. Wilt was 7’2” with agility speed and leaping ability that is hard to believe. He was a track and field athlete before basketball and competed in sprints, triple jump an high jump. Those track stats are recorded at sanctioned events. They aren’t myth. He could literally guard any position.
He was known for stealing the as well as blocking shots. Rodman wouldn’t hold a candle to Wilt.
I agree for clutch but I think Kobe deserved a mention in front of a few guys you mentioned there
you could argue that larry bird was the most clutch player of all time.
Kemp was also another dunker people seem to forget about.
Perimeter defender rodman lol.
This guy is still not at the level in which he can make a good list.
Bird was torching this guy rodman easily while talking to rodman's coach saying why is he letting this scrub defend him.
Rodman is probably the greatest rebounder but perimeter defender? You're out of your mind dude.
It should be either kawhi or Garry payton
Giannis is bigger and stronger than Rodman
That is a bummer that Mark passed away....seemed like a good person
blocks should go to olajuwon, also no mention to rick barry at ft??
I feel like most people consider gary Payton to be the best perimeter defender as well as myself maybe not thou Rodman was definitely great
it's crazy how lebron and kareem don't dominate any one category when they are number 2 and 3 all time
Peak for peak, Alvin Roberson is by far the best stealer ever.
also the pace was faster in the 60s so wilt and russel had inflated statistics, just about everyone was grabbing 15 boards back then how did you not mention this
PERFECT! NO ARGUMENT
kyrie, Ai, literally every flashy player in league is just took a move from the pistol
No Gary Payton for steals and perimeter defense!? Wtf
LeBron been real quiet since this dropped
Stockton not winning in steals is just disrespectful
Can you do a video on how close LeBron James is to breaking Kareem's all-time scoring record please thanks.
Why? It can be Googled if and when he breaks it there will be more vids about it than you will have time to watch. Just enjoy the journey
@@d.columbia9603 I just want him to break it very quickly like before the middle of next season.
Should have mentioned ball handling too
That would go to ai or kyrie
I say Jason Williams might be an option in the passing category.
honestly white chocolate can be a candidate for being the best passer too in my opinion
You should've done minute bull he literally got 5 blocks prg at his rookie career
the steals i think is stockton because if you look at their minutes played its only 6k minutes diffirence
Isn’t dribbling a major category?
For free throws, yes steph is the best but mark price should be in it at well
I think Larry Bird should have had a shout-out of clutchness, but good list