Agreed with the suggestion of fielding Brobbey as a 9 (with or without Malen). We can take chances on this match (ie benching Memphis) without too many consequences if the remainder of the squad stay as-is. I also think it's worth noting that the Oranje historically tend not to be overly committed to performing well when it's not a must-win game.
We should not have any idea of not winning against Austria or getting a draw is an option or not bad result due we are "technically" allready qualified. In a long tournament like this a good positive momentum is important where we must win in all matches up to the Final
Even before Xavi's goal was disallowed I had a bad feeling about that ref. Btw does anyone think that if Mbappe had scored the exact same goal it would have been disallowed?
Pay attention to fair play rules in these matches. If we tie France on goal difference then it comes down to cards. If we tie there, fifa rankings and France tops the group
The hard part is over, even with a disallowed goal. A lot of RUclipsrs are leaning towards Austria. Can't see it. A good 55-60% chance of winning this game. Get an early goal and leave Austria vulnerable for more goals to top group.
Austria seem to be the fancied underdog at this tournament whereas the Dutch aren't really in anyone's mind, so it makes sense. Let's carry on proving people wrong.
@@FootballOranje Hours away. I wasn't worried about France. I see Sportsmole also has Netherlands at 61%. France at 85%. Sounds about right. Fingers crossed. Look forward to seeing your feed.
Hello. You seemed to say in the Holland-France analysis that Holland had already qualified for the Round of 16. Did you mean they will at least get in as a third-place team?
Memphis I noticed does not link up well with others for sometime now,I think he is better suited as a LW or LCF not as a true number 9 or CF.His play at times is not up to par.
I hear a lot of talk about Malen but his finishing just isn’t nearly at the level of Memphis’. Memphis pops up with cheeky goals, and he isn’t playing great at the moment but I don’t think we have a better option other than Weghorst. If anything, I’d like to see Weghorst play as striker and Memphis as is the winger or 10
I think against Austria is were Koeman will try that chance at 9. Either Malen as a 9 or Right winger and Brobbey/Zirkzee if 9 is avialable. Personally, give JZ a chance, he has amazing ball playing skills and quite quick. Brobbey's abscene might be a matter of fitness?
@@FootballOranje and usullay, muscle issues require lots of rest and slow, low impact rehab. So, even if healthy, "football shape" could be something Koeman is looking for. Maybe this game would be the last chance he has to gain some rythm. Same for Zirkzee.
Agreed with the suggestion of fielding Brobbey as a 9 (with or without Malen). We can take chances on this match (ie benching Memphis) without too many consequences if the remainder of the squad stay as-is. I also think it's worth noting that the Oranje historically tend not to be overly committed to performing well when it's not a must-win game.
Or even Memphis on the left wing and find a way to still accommodate Gakpo and Brobbey
That xavi simons disallowed goal I started jumping and shouting goal goal then almost had a heart attack when it was disallowed 😰🥶
We were the same 🙈
Verbruggen, Gertruida, De Vrij, Van Dijk, Ake ,Firmpong, Tijani, Schouten, Simons, Gakpo, Zirkzee
Yes its good to finish top to avoid some deadly teams..
We should not have any idea of not winning against Austria or getting a draw is an option or not bad result due we are "technically" allready qualified. In a long tournament like this a good positive momentum is important where we must win in all matches up to the Final
Even before Xavi's goal was disallowed I had a bad feeling about that ref. Btw does anyone think that if Mbappe had scored the exact same goal it would have been disallowed?
Well you'd hope so for consistency!
Pay attention to fair play rules in these matches. If we tie France on goal difference then it comes down to cards. If we tie there, fifa rankings and France tops the group
Oh goodness me. Didn't realise that! So no yellow cards basically!
The hard part is over, even with a disallowed goal. A lot of RUclipsrs are leaning towards Austria. Can't see it. A good 55-60% chance of winning this game. Get an early goal and leave Austria vulnerable for more goals to top group.
Austria seem to be the fancied underdog at this tournament whereas the Dutch aren't really in anyone's mind, so it makes sense. Let's carry on proving people wrong.
@@FootballOranje Hours away. I wasn't worried about France. I see Sportsmole also has Netherlands at 61%. France at 85%. Sounds about right. Fingers crossed. Look forward to seeing your feed.
Our secret weapon and Koeman surprise tactic have not comes out yet 😁
Hello. You seemed to say in the Holland-France analysis that Holland had already qualified for the Round of 16. Did you mean they will at least get in as a third-place team?
As we mentioned in the show, we have a 99.98% chance of qualifying. So yes we will get at least third place.
Memphis I noticed does not link up well with others for sometime now,I think he is better suited as a LW or LCF not as a true number 9 or CF.His play at times is not up to par.
Ye Koeman has said to the media Memphis will start tomorrow...but why not as a LW and have Brobbey in the middle.
I hear a lot of talk about Malen but his finishing just isn’t nearly at the level of Memphis’. Memphis pops up with cheeky goals, and he isn’t playing great at the moment but I don’t think we have a better option other than Weghorst. If anything, I’d like to see Weghorst play as striker and Memphis as is the winger or 10
Exactly! Memphis back on the wing supported a target man
I think against Austria is were Koeman will try that chance at 9. Either Malen as a 9 or Right winger and Brobbey/Zirkzee if 9 is avialable. Personally, give JZ a chance, he has amazing ball playing skills and quite quick. Brobbey's abscene might be a matter of fitness?
Ye fitness would explain Brobbey's absence. He did miss the first game because of that.
@@FootballOranje and usullay, muscle issues require lots of rest and slow, low impact rehab. So, even if healthy, "football shape" could be something Koeman is looking for. Maybe this game would be the last chance he has to gain some rythm. Same for Zirkzee.
Gertruida should be playing right back in a 4-3-3. He is a solid defender which Dumfries is not.
Dumfries is more effective in a 5-3-2
Malen brings more in terms of pace.
Yes, we need that bit of pace 💪
Yeah, but Malen and a few of our other young forwards haven’t been great in the final 1/3
I think Malen should start every match then bring on Frimpong as a sub.
I think koeman will make some few changes for this game and we will win 3-1😁
Nice positivity! 🎉
Memphis SHOULD BE BENCH PERMANENTLY and not be called up unless there is emergency.
Austria have a team using pressing just a fraction of percentage worse than Germany, who are the best at, NL are medium or below with pressing
We need to be careful on the ball then tomorrow
Time for Brobbey, zirkee and Malen
All three in one go? 🤯
@@FootballOranje one fluke goal by Gakpo, one by super sub weghorst.. We need to replace front 3..lets see wat our bench brings..
In spite of the Oranje having a good defense I do not see them going far because the midfield is not able to dominate and the attack is too ERRATIC.
Hup Holland
Hup!
Frimpong can only be effective is the midfield is holding up.
I think he'll be useful as the tournament progresses either to start or off the bench
I think he's best playing with Geertruida.
Do you guys think it is more beneficial for The Netherlands to finish top of the group or second?
Group winners offcourse
Before the tournament, definitely second place. Now I reckon first place is a more favourable route to the semi final.
Memphis the way he is playing is a GIFT TO A CENTRAL DEFENSE BECAUSE HE POSES NO REAL THREAT WHEREA BROBBEY WILL FORCE THEM TO DEFEND.
Portuguese, Spanish are deadly teams.. Portuguese seems kryptonite for oranje always..
Verbruggen - Geertruida, De Ligt, Van Dijk, Ake - Schouten, Simons, Reijnders - Malen, Zirkzee, Gakpo.
Replace De Ligt with De Vrij and you’re good
@@Dronk1717 I can deal with that I just have a soft spot for the lad.
Depay does not bring anything as it stands.Van der ven should come
We miss koopmeiners for set pieces, Depay kicks are useless..
What i don't understand is after Depay sucks in kicking the set piece...he still takes it on later freekick..as if no one else in the team is able
It drives me nuts when a corner isn’t delivered well. We have good headers of the ball, and it’s a complete waste of a chance
If zirkee and Brobbey gets chance, they will grab that chance will out perform Depay and Gakpo.. Koeman doesnt like that it seems..
I really dont like dumfris at right back...