hello, thank you for the video review, you are the best, you will make video reviews in different languages, then you will be known even more all over the world in German, for example, or in French, I wish you not to rest on your laurels, to be always at your best and success in your business, all the best and to be always at your best one step ahead of your competitors with respect for your company
Is the Broncolor data correct? The Satos pack seems slow to recycle (unless a battery is installed or 80%) when compared to the Scoro. The recycle times seem slow and weird if no batteries are installed 13 seconds for 3200 joules? That's a long time. Over 6 seconds for 1600 joules? Flash durations seem on par with the MOVE 1200 pack, 1/8500 at min energy. I see the benefits with color temp, etc., but there seems to be distinct downsides as well, which are highly questionable considering the cost of this pack. HSS - Broncolor hasn't demonstrated how well this works compared to the old HS on the Siros and MOVE. May we see some real-world demonstrations or commentary on the use of this pack on location (HSS) and studio (flash durations).
Satos can be customised to the respective needs and situation using the innovative power slot concept. When going for a mixed configuration (equal amount of batteries and power supplies) the flash recycling time is 2.4 seconds. Please note that Satos does recycle even a bit faster at 100 V mains voltage and on par at 120 V, compared to Scoro. When working with batteries only, this time drops to 1.92 seconds. In our data sheet we also point out that the flash recharging time can increase if the batteries are heavily discharged and the modelling light is permanently in operation on all channels and flashes with high energy are triggered in rapid succession. Satos features short flash durations in the following modes: Normal mode (Opt.): Satos 1600 (min = 1/5150 s | max = 1/100 s) Satos 3200 (min = 1/5150 s | max = 1/100 s) Speed mode: Satos 1600 (min = 1/8500 s | max = 1/1600 s) Satos 3200 (min = 1/8500 s | max = 1/1600 s) Shortest mode (t 0.1 min): Satos 1600 (min = 1/28500 s) Satos 3200 (min = 1/28500 s) Here is one example of a high frame rate with Satos: broncolor.swiss/news/how-to-high-frame-rate More examples will be published shortly.
@@broncolorworld Scoro (3200) = slowest recycle is than 2.5 (2.2 published) sec. at 100V, normal mode. Satos (3200) = slowest recycle is 2.4 *only if batteries are 80% or better. *However* If one's not using batts, or batts are near depleted, then that time rises to a (published) level that's unusually slow per Broncolor data sheet (below). So it's clear that the batteries are required for expected performance, at the pack relies heavily on them. So if the batts drop below 80% performance can be greatly reduced. broncolor.swiss/assets/img/Satos_Data-sheet_July-2023-V1.3.pdf broncolor.swiss/assets/img/Products/Light/Powerpacks/Scoro-S/Data_Sheet_Scoro_S_WiFi_RFS_2_01.pdf HSS affect can be achieved via 'delay' feature, but does the new HSS tech give as much or more light over x-distance compared to the Siros/MOVE HS at highest HS power setting? Is there a link where we can look at the owners manual online and the most accurate data sheets for both Satos and Scoro S? The Satos offers some really good advantages over the older packs. Impressed with the features. Looking forward to seeing the Bron. team putting the pack through its paces.
Our recommended configurations for Satos are: Satos 3200: 4 batteries ; or 2 batteries & 2 power supplies ; or 3 batteries & 1 power supply Satos 1600: 2 batteries ; or 1 battery & power supply Even if mains power is available in the studio, at least one battery element used offers clear advantages: On the one hand, fluctuations in a network that may be fragile are compensated, and on the other hand, batteries shorten flash recharging times. Especially if the power grid in a region has a voltage of 100/110V, a battery as a buffer leads to significant improvements in the operating behaviour of the power pack. Kindly find our interactive Satos user manual here: broncolor.swiss/help We will soon publish an updated version of our Satos data sheet ((e.g. now “t o.1 min” / “shortest mode” will be stated. It will be published under the following page under “Downloads” in the top right corner: broncolor.swiss/products/satos?variant=128676 In comparison, HSS does not lead to more light, but it leads to a more even result with less brightness gradation. We will soon be holding a webinar in which the functions, benefits and specs of Satos will be explained in detail. By subscribing to our newsletter you will be automatically reminded of the webinar date. lp.broncolor.swiss/newsletter
@@broncolorworld Thanks for the update and links. Looking forward to the webinar and as always looking forward to more great products from Broncolor. Thanks again.
Will users be able to do firmware update by themselves or should the pack and head go back to customer support ? Will wifi / BT control be available at lunch ? Can you finger scroll on display to or can you only use the small arrows as showed ? What technology are the battery using and how many cycles will they last ?
Updates are done in the beginning through USB, the WiFi/over-the-air updates are being implemented together with other WiFi features shortly. Finger scrolling is possible, it's an industrial mutli-touch display. The batteries have the latest lithium-ion cells built-in and are monitored/controlled by the system itself. The exact cycle time is not yet known but we did everything possible to get them as reliable as possible.
The operating system will be available in a lot of languages, also in Chinese. We are working on an automated translation of the interactive knowledgebase tool.
Will you please explain the advantage of two power supplies inserted. What is the advantage of having two inserted compared to just one. What is the benefit of having one or more slide in power supplies. You explained the configuration, but not what it's actually doing and how the slide in power supply units benefit the photographer more than the Scoro pack without slide in power supply.
We agree, the Dual Power Management system is difficult to understand/diffcult to explain. At least one power supply is needed either to work on mains or to charge the battery. Two power supplies allow faster recharging of the batteries or allow recharging the batteries while running the modelling light(s) at the same time when mains power is available. On-location the system can be equipped only with batteries (without the weight for a fixed power supply). Does this answer your question? Please reach out to support@broncolor.swiss if you like to have more detailed information.
@@Krmelj Yes, he did go over it at the end. I was looking for a bit more technical detail but Urs and Axel are doing a good job going over the system as a whole and the information is well received, as well was your post. Thanks.
@@broncolorworld Thank you for the quick response. Good overall explanation. Thank you. It sounds like power from the mains is restricted to either running the pack -or- charging the battery when only one power supply is present. If one power supply can run the pack + charge batts simultaneously, charging would be comparatively slow without the second power supply. One power supply can't dutifully run the modeling light(s) + flash, etc., in addition to charging one or more batteries at the same time, so a second power supply enables one or more batteries to get charged quicker taking the burden off the power supply doing the other work. That's a darn good pack, giving a lot of options. Thanks again for the response.
Thank you for your feedback. We are working hard to improve our market presence all around the world. Please see this link for a number of translated manuals: www.relight.com.hk/manual
The dream machine! Great job, Broncolor. As always!
Wish you great successful this year and next year. Great content.
hello, thank you for the video review, you are the best, you will make video reviews in different languages, then you will be known even more all over the world in German, for example, or in French, I wish you not to rest on your laurels, to be always at your best and success in your business, all the best and to be always at your best one step ahead of your competitors with respect for your company
Thank you for your feedback. We are currently working on German videos. Coming soon...
When can we expect these to be available at retailers?
They will be available in the beginning of July 2023.
Is the Broncolor data correct? The Satos pack seems slow to recycle (unless a battery is installed or 80%) when compared to the Scoro. The recycle times seem slow and weird if no batteries are installed 13 seconds for 3200 joules? That's a long time. Over 6 seconds for 1600 joules? Flash durations seem on par with the MOVE 1200 pack, 1/8500 at min energy. I see the benefits with color temp, etc., but there seems to be distinct downsides as well, which are highly questionable considering the cost of this pack. HSS - Broncolor hasn't demonstrated how well this works compared to the old HS on the Siros and MOVE. May we see some real-world demonstrations or commentary on the use of this pack on location (HSS) and studio (flash durations).
Satos can be customised to the respective needs and situation using the innovative power slot concept.
When going for a mixed configuration (equal amount of batteries and power supplies) the flash recycling time is 2.4 seconds. Please note that Satos does recycle even a bit faster at 100 V mains voltage and on par at 120 V, compared to Scoro.
When working with batteries only, this time drops to 1.92 seconds.
In our data sheet we also point out that the flash recharging time can increase if the batteries are heavily discharged and the modelling light is permanently in operation on all channels and flashes with high energy are triggered in rapid succession.
Satos features short flash durations in the following modes:
Normal mode (Opt.):
Satos 1600 (min = 1/5150 s | max = 1/100 s)
Satos 3200 (min = 1/5150 s | max = 1/100 s)
Speed mode:
Satos 1600 (min = 1/8500 s | max = 1/1600 s)
Satos 3200 (min = 1/8500 s | max = 1/1600 s)
Shortest mode (t 0.1 min):
Satos 1600 (min = 1/28500 s)
Satos 3200 (min = 1/28500 s)
Here is one example of a high frame rate with Satos:
broncolor.swiss/news/how-to-high-frame-rate
More examples will be published shortly.
@@broncolorworld
Scoro (3200) = slowest recycle is than 2.5 (2.2 published) sec. at 100V, normal mode.
Satos (3200) = slowest recycle is 2.4 *only if batteries are 80% or better. *However* If one's not using batts, or batts are near depleted, then that time rises to a (published) level that's unusually slow per Broncolor data sheet (below).
So it's clear that the batteries are required for expected performance, at the pack relies heavily on them. So if the batts drop below 80% performance can be greatly reduced.
broncolor.swiss/assets/img/Satos_Data-sheet_July-2023-V1.3.pdf
broncolor.swiss/assets/img/Products/Light/Powerpacks/Scoro-S/Data_Sheet_Scoro_S_WiFi_RFS_2_01.pdf
HSS affect can be achieved via 'delay' feature, but does the new HSS tech give as much or more light over x-distance compared to the Siros/MOVE HS at highest HS power setting?
Is there a link where we can look at the owners manual online and the most accurate data sheets for both Satos and Scoro S? The Satos offers some really good advantages over the older packs. Impressed with the features. Looking forward to seeing the Bron. team putting the pack through its paces.
Our recommended configurations for Satos are:
Satos 3200: 4 batteries ; or 2 batteries & 2 power supplies ; or 3 batteries & 1 power supply
Satos 1600: 2 batteries ; or 1 battery & power supply
Even if mains power is available in the studio, at least one battery element used offers clear advantages:
On the one hand, fluctuations in a network that may be fragile are compensated, and on the other hand,
batteries shorten flash recharging times. Especially if the power grid in a region has a voltage of 100/110V,
a battery as a buffer leads to significant improvements in the operating behaviour of the power pack.
Kindly find our interactive Satos user manual here:
broncolor.swiss/help
We will soon publish an updated version of our Satos data sheet ((e.g. now “t o.1 min” / “shortest mode” will be stated.
It will be published under the following page under “Downloads” in the top right corner:
broncolor.swiss/products/satos?variant=128676
In comparison, HSS does not lead to more light, but it leads to a more even result with less brightness gradation.
We will soon be holding a webinar in which the functions, benefits and specs of Satos will be explained in detail.
By subscribing to our newsletter you will be automatically reminded of the webinar date.
lp.broncolor.swiss/newsletter
@@broncolorworld Thanks for the update and links. Looking forward to the webinar and as always looking forward to more great products from Broncolor. Thanks again.
Will users be able to do firmware update by themselves or should the pack and head go back to customer support ?
Will wifi / BT control be available at lunch ?
Can you finger scroll on display to or can you only use the small arrows as showed ?
What technology are the battery using and how many cycles will they last ?
Updates are done in the beginning through USB, the WiFi/over-the-air updates are being implemented together with other WiFi features shortly. Finger scrolling is possible, it's an industrial mutli-touch display. The batteries have the latest lithium-ion cells built-in and are monitored/controlled by the system itself. The exact cycle time is not yet known but we did everything possible to get them as reliable as possible.
做一个中文说明书行吗 谢谢
The operating system will be available in a lot of languages, also in Chinese. We are working on an automated translation of the interactive knowledgebase tool.
Will you please explain the advantage of two power supplies inserted. What is the advantage of having two inserted compared to just one. What is the benefit of having one or more slide in power supplies. You explained the configuration, but not what it's actually doing and how the slide in power supply units benefit the photographer more than the Scoro pack without slide in power supply.
We agree, the Dual Power Management system is difficult to understand/diffcult to explain.
At least one power supply is needed either to work on mains or to charge the battery. Two power supplies allow faster recharging of the batteries or allow recharging the batteries while running the modelling light(s) at the same time when mains power is available. On-location the system can be equipped only with batteries (without the weight for a fixed power supply). Does this answer your question? Please reach out to support@broncolor.swiss if you like to have more detailed information.
@@Krmelj Yes, he did go over it at the end. I was looking for a bit more technical detail but Urs and Axel are doing a good job going over the system as a whole and the information is well received, as well was your post. Thanks.
@@broncolorworld Thank you for the quick response. Good overall explanation. Thank you. It sounds like power from the mains is restricted to either running the pack -or- charging the battery when only one power supply is present. If one power supply can run the pack + charge batts simultaneously, charging would be comparatively slow without the second power supply. One power supply can't dutifully run the modeling light(s) + flash, etc., in addition to charging one or more batteries at the same time, so a second power supply enables one or more batteries to get charged quicker taking the burden off the power supply doing the other work. That's a darn good pack, giving a lot of options.
Thanks again for the response.
That’s a bit steep.
在中国，布朗没有保富图市场运营好，包括市场形象，网络的发布，各个网络平台也不及保富图，我希望这次的新的产品可以好好的做一下中国市场，其实我本身就是布朗的用户，哪怕是给一个电箱使用的中文翻译这些这么多年了没有。
Thank you for your feedback. We are working hard to improve our market presence all around the world. Please see this link for a number of translated manuals: www.relight.com.hk/manual