originally didnt feel like explaining what i meant but since you pinned it ill do it haha the idea of a "good landlord that isnt at odds with their tenets" is fundamentally the idea that classes with different economic interest should find common ground, whiiiiiiiich is the core idea of corporatist economics also the enclosure movement was rly bad (no idea what your opinion on it is but felt the need to say that)
@Akam-pc5pe 1. talking about the strength of the collective but still thinking nation states are a good thing. incredible brain worms. 2. I dont want to stop fighting if they have unequal say in how society is run. I dont want ppl to have the right to be lazy bc i dont want states to exist and without them rights can exist either 3. the upper classes arent smarter, they just determine what society sees as intelligent. youre falling for it lol 4. why would you want private property to exist if its result is class society that you yourself call unproductive? I can tell you why 5. youre a dog for the capitalist class which they only let out whenever their supremacy is threatend. your movement subsumes or destroys all revolutionary potential a population has and at the end of all this the capitalists remain and soon begin to reassert their supremacy over your fascist state. just look at chile
@Akam-pc5pe You seem to be looking a this through a Marxist paradigm you forget while the farmer provides labour the land lord provides land and capital while the landlord relies on the tenant to provide labour therefore income the farmer also needs the landlord to provide land and capital. You also forget that they also have a choice if the tenant finds lower rent or a better farm from another landlord he can take it just as the landlord can get a better tenancy if he can find one.
This is a phenomenal piece of public history. One thing I recommend is posting sources or at least a further reading list! Proper sourcing is crucial to historical accuracy, and I can tell you utilize a variety of texts to make these videos. Accessing them as viewers would be awesome! Love the content, subscribed!
2:03 The reason for the Three Field Systhem of letting the land "rest"; Has to do with replenishing the Nitrogen in the soil, which makes it more fertile. Bacteria eat Nitrogen-Oxide and turn it into pure Nitrogen. Essentially a natural form of the Haber-Bosch isolation, on a smaller scale.
I'm a historian who has taught the agricultural revolution. This is such a great analysis, I only wish I could have assigned it to students! Tying the innovations in with the economic cycle and 18th century Jeffersonian democracy is just the icing on the cake. Well done. Now who are you?
I'm hoping to start a PhD soon about eighteenth century environmental policy in central europe, and I'm particularly interested in wetland drainage. I was surprised you consider it quite boring! In any case, I'm envious of your extensive knowledge of british agricultural history and wish I had access to a similar depth and variety of sources. Carry on!
I am intrigued by your research. I go to Hungary frequently, & am aware of strong links between leading 19th Century agricultural improvers like István Széchenyi, & his father who visited England (& W Europe) to study improving methods being introduced here, which they took back to Hungary. One of my 4 x great grandfathers was an improving farmer in Suffolk from 1812 until the 1860's. He knew Arthur Young (who came from a neighbouring Suffolk village.) In his letters to Young, he explains how he was offering internships on his farm for European farmers. Sadly, I don't know who these visitors were, but over the years I have found several sets of letters written by Europeans travelling in Suffolk & Eastern England to study English farming methids. Alderton Hall February 22nd 1814 Dear Sir, I take the liberty of addressing you upon a subject which concerns me individually knowing your kindness and readiness to promote the interests of those concerned in Agriculture and having experienced your friendship I flatter myself you will do me the flavour to reply, whether you are acquainted with any gentlemen who are desirous of making themselves acquainted with the Norfolk & Suffolk mode of Agriculture -- My residence enables me to accommodate two gentlemen upon my establishment that would be agreeable to themselves - you are aware my occupation affords every variety in the management both of cattle & land - and my experience you are sufficiently acquainte’d - Should I have presumed too much in troubling you with this, you will pardon me-- I remain Sir - Your Obed & Hble Servt Joshua Rodwell To Arthur Young Esq.
A few points. The enclosures created larger fields and the ability of owners to apply capital investment. Improvements such as by drainage and the spreading of lime in upland areas brought much more land into productive use. Mechanization and artificial fertilizers only really had a significant impact in the twentieth century. No mention of poultry and market gardening.
You seem to imply that the land left fallow under the pre enclosure open field system was not used. That is wrong because the fallow field was used for grazing. The idea was that the grazing beasts would improve the soil by their manure. That manure, contrary to what you say ,was an additive to the soil. The extent of the grazing was controlled by the manorial courts and there were rules about when animals could be grazed and how many each farmer/peasant could graze. You also need to understand that the open field system in fact supported a growing population during the high medieval period. The population suffered a drastic decline following the Black death and it took centuries for it to recover, the population of England at the time of the beginning of the Agricultural revolution, though growing, was probably smaller than it had been in 1348.
critically mineralization processes occur while the grazing has fewer nutrient withdrawals, some leguminous plants are among the fallow weeds, and a diversity of plants helps with the soil microbiome which provides biological pathways of nutrient delivery not available to plants without suffucient symbiotic microbial diversity. In a world where potash, bones, nightsoil, and manure are your only fertilizers, and usually in short supply/acre away from cities, the fallow boost is significant.
Just a bit to add. In my part of the world the three field system and nucleated villages never emerged so small holdings persisted as the backbone of agriculture. These farms benefitted from common lands that existed widely. As the enclosure acts started to be applied to the commons smaller farms and small holdings ceased to be viable and land became consolidated. The end result was broadly the same but from a different start point.
15:42 "I'm not trying to suggest that we should reinstate the property qualification" We totally should, or at least take the right to vote from those who are paid by the government.
Thomas Jefferson hit it on the head when he said banking institutions were more dangerous to democracy than standing armies. They can supply you with 9 dollars of debt at interest for every dollar they hold. This means a wealth, and power imbalance regulated into law as a state sanctified monopoly that no one else can leverage. So a very unequal playing field where financial influence is applied at the greatest point of leverage. 1 dollar can collectively be loaned 9 times at standard interest so at 5% it becomes 45% return. This means indebtedness is sanctified by the state as a way to leverage property as analogous to Gold without the Gold. Growing Wealth from a fixed asset is the same as inflation.
It was a consequence of the Industrial Revolution which started in Britain 60 years before anywhere else. The removal of the population from the land and increase in numbers created a demand for more food to be produced at lower cost. Later innovations, like the combine harvester were American where the size if farms and relative scarcity of labour encouraged mechanisation
@@jontalbot1 This is borne out by the experience in the 17th Century when English farmers & landowners were visiting the Low Countries, where farming was believed to ahead of English farming. Techniques like drowning meadows were introduced here from Belgium & the Netherlands.
@@balmernicholas A lot of things in England owe their origin to the Low Countries. The Huegenots who settled in England to escape religious persecution brought with them weaving skills. Brickmaking died out in Britain after the Romans left but was reintroduced by Flemish migrants. The low lying Fens of eastern England were drained by Dutch engineers. It’s common to see houses with Dutch gables in East Anglia
Very rich and informative. Thank you. I did however find the pace a bit brisk though. Every single sign of your taking a breath seems to be edited out. As a result, I found I stopped viewing half-way through, due to fatigue.
This was extremely good, but too densely packed with complex information, I think? I had to constantly pause the video to absorb the implications of each sentence before getting to the next. Maybe a more relaxed delivery, with more pauses, would make it just perfect.
What strikes me about enlightenment agriculture is the profound utopian tendencies within it. The men involved really believed that better technology and land management could return the world to an edenic state. At the same time, the progressive state policies which enabled enclosure and privatization of common lands pushed people off ancestral lands and made their lives measurably worse! A big part of what attracts me to this topic is this (perhaps foolish) optimism. Much like the agronomists of the eighteenth century, I and many in my generation look at agriculture and a path toward the meaning and purpose in life that we feel is lacking. The difference is that we dream of strengthened ecologies rather than a conquered one.
jefferson's democracy provided from the french revolution, and farer certainly from the ideology of the levelers during the english great rebelion in the 17 century. it was based upon the belief that independant farmers are the living base of the nation, the most usefull cityzens and a reserve of soldiers to defend it .. with the obvious influence of jean-jacques rousseau. it was the body of ideas of républican radicalim. opposed to both " liberalism " and marxism ... " une chaumière à l'abris du fisc et des brigands ... " saint-just
Since poor people begin to vote the national budgets went out of control as politicians promise more & more goodies to the people by taxing the "rich". Personal, I believe that anyone who is on public assistance should not be able to vote, since it in their short-time interest to vote for the politician offering them more of the taxpayer's money.
democracy always has had one major flaw, It's rulership selects for whoever can manipulate the voting populace, anyone who holds that desire is prone to be some sort of evil, then they get people more concerned with social approval to do what they want. With Edward Bernays practical use of his famous uncle work (Freud) in practical marketing, spin from news media who realised the headline and first paragraph of their articles can be just lies if they put the truth in the last paragraph where no one reads it and nonscientific academia dominated by a secular Utopian cult, free will is not common enough for people to be able to make the informed sort of choices.
Why should not government's primary concern be the welfare of the weakest and most vulnerable in society? I can see no more essential function than to guarantee the common welfare and create a social safety net. In Britain you have an NHS, which despite its underfunding and growing problems, still offers an excellent standard of healthcare. In most of the rest of world, health services are poor and/or extremely expensive for regular people. We look at the goodies you are provided by your state and wish we could feel this secure. I don't have an opinion either way about your argument about public assistance and voting, but I really feel like British conservatives don't appreciate how good they have it.
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originally didnt feel like explaining what i meant but since you pinned it ill do it haha
the idea of a "good landlord that isnt at odds with their tenets" is fundamentally the idea that classes with different economic interest should find common ground, whiiiiiiiich is the core idea of corporatist economics
also the enclosure movement was rly bad (no idea what your opinion on it is but felt the need to say that)
11:15 great and necessary addition to the video
@Akam-pc5pe why do you love fascism
@Akam-pc5pe 1. talking about the strength of the collective but still thinking nation states are a good thing. incredible brain worms.
2. I dont want to stop fighting if they have unequal say in how society is run. I dont want ppl to have the right to be lazy bc i dont want states to exist and without them rights can exist either
3. the upper classes arent smarter, they just determine what society sees as intelligent. youre falling for it lol
4. why would you want private property to exist if its result is class society that you yourself call unproductive? I can tell you why
5. youre a dog for the capitalist class which they only let out whenever their supremacy is threatend. your movement subsumes or destroys all revolutionary potential a population has and at the end of all this the capitalists remain and soon begin to reassert their supremacy over your fascist state. just look at chile
@Akam-pc5pe You seem to be looking a this through a Marxist paradigm you forget while the farmer provides labour the land lord provides land and capital while the landlord relies on the tenant to provide labour therefore income the farmer also needs the landlord to provide land and capital. You also forget that they also have a choice if the tenant finds lower rent or a better farm from another landlord he can take it just as the landlord can get a better tenancy if he can find one.
Keep it up! This channel ought to have many more subs, hopefully the algorithm will pluck you out of obscurity soon.
Totally agree. I posted this video on my Facebook to try to spread the word... (not that I am big influencer, or anything like it...)
Holy F, i thought you have 100k plus subscriber with this quality production
Me too 😮
Another left leaning slop channel that churns out video format essays. Just what RUclips needs
This is a phenomenal piece of public history. One thing I recommend is posting sources or at least a further reading list! Proper sourcing is crucial to historical accuracy, and I can tell you utilize a variety of texts to make these videos. Accessing them as viewers would be awesome! Love the content, subscribed!
Thanks for the feedback! I'll try to add a list of sources in the description when it suits
2:03 The reason for the Three Field Systhem of letting the land "rest";
Has to do with replenishing the Nitrogen in the soil, which makes it more fertile.
Bacteria eat Nitrogen-Oxide and turn it into pure Nitrogen.
Essentially a natural form of the Haber-Bosch isolation, on a smaller scale.
The fallow field was also used, subject to the manorial court, to graze animals which added manure .
This was very interesting and much more educational than I expected.
I'm a historian who has taught the agricultural revolution. This is such a great analysis, I only wish I could have assigned it to students! Tying the innovations in with the economic cycle and 18th century Jeffersonian democracy is just the icing on the cake. Well done. Now who are you?
Glad you liked! Channel introduction coming up soon
If you was a teacher, teaching students shouldn't you know this... Or are U not a teacher at all
U gotta keep posting videos i get so hyped every time i see a new upload
Appreciate the support! Got more in the works :)
I'm hoping to start a PhD soon about eighteenth century environmental policy in central europe, and I'm particularly interested in wetland drainage. I was surprised you consider it quite boring! In any case, I'm envious of your extensive knowledge of british agricultural history and wish I had access to a similar depth and variety of sources. Carry on!
I am intrigued by your research. I go to Hungary frequently, & am aware of strong links between leading 19th Century agricultural improvers like István Széchenyi, & his father who visited England (& W Europe) to study improving methods being introduced here, which they took back to Hungary.
One of my 4 x great grandfathers was an improving farmer in Suffolk from 1812 until the 1860's. He knew Arthur Young (who came from a neighbouring Suffolk village.)
In his letters to Young, he explains how he was offering internships on his farm for European farmers. Sadly, I don't know who these visitors were, but over the years I have found several sets of letters written by Europeans travelling in Suffolk & Eastern England to study English farming methids.
Alderton Hall February 22nd 1814
Dear Sir,
I take the liberty of addressing you upon a subject which concerns me individually knowing your kindness and readiness to promote the interests of those concerned in Agriculture and having experienced your friendship I flatter myself you will do me the flavour to reply, whether you are acquainted with any gentlemen who are desirous of making themselves acquainted with the Norfolk & Suffolk mode of Agriculture -- My residence enables me to accommodate two gentlemen upon my establishment that would be agreeable to themselves - you are aware my occupation affords every variety in the management both of cattle & land - and my experience you are sufficiently acquainte’d - Should I have presumed too much in troubling you with this, you will pardon me--
I remain Sir - Your Obed & Hble Servt
Joshua Rodwell
To Arthur Young Esq.
A few points. The enclosures created larger fields and the ability of owners to apply capital investment. Improvements such as by drainage and the spreading of lime in upland areas brought much more land into productive use. Mechanization and artificial fertilizers only really had a significant impact in the twentieth century. No mention of poultry and market gardening.
Great lesson, as usual. Thank you
You seem to imply that the land left fallow under the pre enclosure open field system was not used. That is wrong because the fallow field was used for grazing. The idea was that the grazing beasts would improve the soil by their manure. That manure, contrary to what you say ,was an additive to the soil. The extent of the grazing was controlled by the manorial courts and there were rules about when animals could be grazed and how many each farmer/peasant could graze.
You also need to understand that the open field system in fact supported a growing population during the high medieval period. The population suffered a drastic decline following the Black death and it took centuries for it to recover, the population of England at the time of the beginning of the Agricultural revolution, though growing, was probably smaller than it had been in 1348.
critically mineralization processes occur while the grazing has fewer nutrient withdrawals, some leguminous plants are among the fallow weeds, and a diversity of plants helps with the soil microbiome which provides biological pathways of nutrient delivery not available to plants without suffucient symbiotic microbial diversity.
In a world where potash, bones, nightsoil, and manure are your only fertilizers, and usually in short supply/acre away from cities, the fallow boost is significant.
Just a bit to add. In my part of the world the three field system and nucleated villages never emerged so small holdings persisted as the backbone of agriculture. These farms benefitted from common lands that existed widely. As the enclosure acts started to be applied to the commons smaller farms and small holdings ceased to be viable and land became consolidated.
The end result was broadly the same but from a different start point.
This was absolutely beautiful. Definitely gained a new subscriber!
mate!! I will funnel as many people I can to your channel, top drawer.
Amazing explanation - thank. There is someting amazing about how we relate to land shapes our ideologies
15:42 "I'm not trying to suggest that we should reinstate the property qualification" We totally should, or at least take the right to vote from those who are paid by the government.
Thomas Jefferson hit it on the head when he said banking institutions were more dangerous to democracy than standing armies. They can supply you with 9 dollars of debt at interest for every dollar they hold. This means a wealth, and power imbalance regulated into law as a state sanctified monopoly that no one else can leverage. So a very unequal playing field where financial influence is applied at the greatest point of leverage. 1 dollar can collectively be loaned 9 times at standard interest so at 5% it becomes 45% return. This means indebtedness is sanctified by the state as a way to leverage property as analogous to Gold without the Gold. Growing Wealth from a fixed asset is the same as inflation.
So impressive how many innovations came from Britain, no wonder they were the economic hegemon of the 19th century!
It was a consequence of the Industrial Revolution which started in Britain 60 years before anywhere else. The removal of the population from the land and increase in numbers created a demand for more food to be produced at lower cost. Later innovations, like the combine harvester were American where the size if farms and relative scarcity of labour encouraged mechanisation
@@jontalbot1 This is borne out by the experience in the 17th Century when English farmers & landowners were visiting the Low Countries, where farming was believed to ahead of English farming. Techniques like drowning meadows were introduced here from Belgium & the Netherlands.
@@balmernicholas A lot of things in England owe their origin to the Low Countries. The Huegenots who settled in England to escape religious persecution brought with them weaving skills. Brickmaking died out in Britain after the Romans left but was reintroduced by Flemish migrants. The low lying Fens of eastern England were drained by Dutch engineers. It’s common to see houses with Dutch gables in East Anglia
Best video so far
Wonderful read on "...they made them bigger, and squarer"
Crikey what a load of anti nonsense.
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Very rich and informative. Thank you.
I did however find the pace a bit brisk though. Every single sign of your taking a breath seems to be edited out. As a result, I found I stopped viewing half-way through, due to fatigue.
This was extremely good, but too densely packed with complex information, I think? I had to constantly pause the video to absorb the implications of each sentence before getting to the next. Maybe a more relaxed delivery, with more pauses, would make it just perfect.
Crop rotation in the 14th century was much more or considerably more widespread? Rik Mayall The Young Ones.
insane video thank you
What strikes me about enlightenment agriculture is the profound utopian tendencies within it. The men involved really believed that better technology and land management could return the world to an edenic state. At the same time, the progressive state policies which enabled enclosure and privatization of common lands pushed people off ancestral lands and made their lives measurably worse!
A big part of what attracts me to this topic is this (perhaps foolish) optimism. Much like the agronomists of the eighteenth century, I and many in my generation look at agriculture and a path toward the meaning and purpose in life that we feel is lacking. The difference is that we dream of strengthened ecologies rather than a conquered one.
Pursuit of meaning, certainly - best of luck with your PhD!
So the landlord and the tenant were in partnership! Tell that to a million Irish people that died of starvation in the eighteen forties.
I love cows
That's fantastic, tell me more
That cow on the thumbnail may be vying for some oats...
jefferson's democracy provided from the french revolution, and farer certainly from the ideology of the levelers during the english great rebelion in the 17 century. it was based upon the belief that independant farmers are the living base of the nation, the most usefull cityzens and a reserve of soldiers to defend it .. with the obvious influence of jean-jacques rousseau.
it was the body of ideas of républican radicalim. opposed to both " liberalism " and marxism ...
" une chaumière à l'abris du fisc et des brigands ... " saint-just
Go empiricism ❤
So, one could say, that the US and UK have lost too few wars in the last century...
He looks like he'd be related to Conan Obrien
The agricultural revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race 😝
The Bible explains that Everyone is Hungry and the Food is Never enough. I think 🤔 Tommy was right about the Banks 😞.
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Since poor people begin to vote the national budgets went out of control as politicians promise more & more goodies to the people by taxing the "rich".
Personal, I believe that anyone who is on public assistance should not be able to vote, since it in their short-time interest to vote for the politician offering them more of the taxpayer's money.
democracy always has had one major flaw, It's rulership selects for whoever can manipulate the voting populace, anyone who holds that desire is prone to be some sort of evil, then they get people more concerned with social approval to do what they want. With Edward Bernays practical use of his famous uncle work (Freud) in practical marketing, spin from news media who realised the headline and first paragraph of their articles can be just lies if they put the truth in the last paragraph where no one reads it and nonscientific academia dominated by a secular Utopian cult, free will is not common enough for people to be able to make the informed sort of choices.
Why should not government's primary concern be the welfare of the weakest and most vulnerable in society? I can see no more essential function than to guarantee the common welfare and create a social safety net. In Britain you have an NHS, which despite its underfunding and growing problems, still offers an excellent standard of healthcare. In most of the rest of world, health services are poor and/or extremely expensive for regular people. We look at the goodies you are provided by your state and wish we could feel this secure.
I don't have an opinion either way about your argument about public assistance and voting, but I really feel like British conservatives don't appreciate how good they have it.
People like you who do not believe in democracy should not be allowed to participate in the democratic process
@@jontalbot1 Democracy is for cows
Slow down!