Corn Breeding- Introduction to my Corn Breeding Projects.
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- Опубликовано: 26 ноя 2016
- I have two separate corn breeding projects I am working on, a white flour corn and a orange-high carotene hard flint. This video introduces the two projects and shows some of the different lines included in the development of the two projects.
My flint corn began with a backbone of Carol Deppe's Cascade Series Flint www.adaptiveseeds.com/product...
I also used Bronze Beauty Flint npgsweb.ars-grin.gov/gringlob...
Roy's Calais Flint www.highmowingseeds.com/organ...
And most importantly possibly, Cargill Northern Temperate Zone Cateto npgsweb.ars-grin.gov/gringlob...
It also contains Cargill Northern Temperate Zone Cuzco npgsweb.ars-grin.gov/gringlob...
Cargill Northern Temperate Zone Caribbean npgsweb.ars-grin.gov/gringlob...
And Frank Kutka's Mexident npgsweb.ars-grin.gov/gringlob...
My Flour corn began primarily with a backbone of Tuscarora White Flour corn and related strains of 8-row white flour corn from the Northeast. Corns like this, ganondagan.blogspot.com/2012/0...
It contains Cargill Caribbean as well, it also contains a major influx of Cargill Northern Temperate Zone Coroico npgsweb.ars-grin.gov/gringlob...
Cargill Northern Temperate Zone Mexican Dent (primarily Tuxpeño) npgsweb.ars-grin.gov/gringlob...
Schroeder Strain Hickory King from South Africa via the USDA npgsweb.ars-grin.gov/gringlob...
Hopefully this video will be interesting to someone. I'm happy to answer questions and collaborate with amateur corn breeders everywhere, and invite anyone who is interested to join my amateur corn enthusiasts Facebook Group, here. groups/55613...
This was four years ago, I hope you have achieved your goals. Keep this spirit mate. You're an artist. A kid discovering a world of possibilities.
Carol Deppe is one of my heros. She's seriously a bad ass.
"It's been long and rambling..." and really really interesting! Corn breeding is fairly involved, I've started a winter squash project.
Sadly I find most US how to videos long and rambling. Oh how I wish people would cut the dawdle and get to the point. Sorry for being negative but please speed up.
@@annwelch4127I know! And I say this as an American... It is odd, because in real life convo, I find it hard to keep up! It doesn't bother me, I can use the speed up or down here in the YT app.
This is so cool!!! I was first interested in corn breeding by the Bumblebee Junction RUclips channel. I purchased some F1 seed from their project. I grew that seed in 2020 and am now preparing my 2021 additions. I'm adding lots of Native American flour corn influence to their primarily dent selection. I go back and forth between striving for a Painted Mountain level of diversity or trying to stabilize just one simple cross. I like the idea of shuffling many large decks of cards and then letting natural selection deal them however it may.
Wishing you many successful seasons from Oklahoma.
Hey just seen this I am also an okie and corn lover ! Would love to hear update on your project
@@bensiebold8217 Sure! So I grew out the dent corn "grex" (just a big hybrid mess) from Bumblebee Junction and had a great crop. It was that experience that really interested me in developing something more locally adapted for my kitchen. What I decided that I'd really like is a flour corn that makes great cornbread. It would have to be easy to grind in a hand-crank grain mill. So I basically scrapped my dent corn year and pooled together a bunch of white flour corns which I grew in 2021. I gathered lots of Native American flour varieties from the northeast and also two from the southwest. The crop was less than I'd hoped but good enough to work with. I'm still learning how to keep corn happy hahaha. So now in February 2022 I am preparing my seed for this spring. I'm going to plant what I'm calling "northeastern 8-row white flour grex", and also a winner from my southwest corn trial, Navajo White from BeeSezi Farms in Arizona, and about 1/3 of my patch will be new additions. I've ordered seed from the Sandhill Preservation Center and also Native Seed Search. I think it could be cool to somehow bring the best from both the northeast and southwest together into a new flour corn. I'm trying to keep it white
@@cameroncinnamon4722 wow super cool! I plan to grow my own sweet corn grex this spring... I like your idea of white flour grex I would love to keep in contact with you and hear and see your progress! do you have Reddit or any other media ?
@@bensiebold8217 I've typed two long replies that keep getting deleted somehow. I have a reddit but don't use it much. I think it is "CnoremaC". Might be a good way to share progress updates. I'd be interested to see how your sweet corn project turns out. Sounds like a lot of fun. I like reading books and forum discussions about landrace gardening. Not sure if you've stumbled upon that but it sounds like you'd be interested. Wishing you the best of health and weather.
@@cameroncinnamon4722 hmm my phone is acting odd as well...could be the weather ? I’ll add you on Reddit or message you... I also have a community that I’m trying to setup as a forum/discussion dedicated to just this topic I’ll pm you an invite. Thank you ! I also wish you the best of health and weather as well, spring is soon !
Just found this interesting video. It is fun watching the collected corn change from year to year. Last year only popcorn varieties made it to maturity for me, tough year! interesting endeavor.
Awesome. Keep it up.
Amazeing
A mazeing!
Thank you for the awesome video. I would like to know where can I buy freshly grown orange flint corn ears in USA. I want to get connected to the farm owners or the distributors if there’s any possibility to buy hard orange flint corn. I hope I will get some positive information.
So of the varieties of red corn, definitely some are red because of anthocyanins (similar to pink, blue, purple, and black varieties), but which are red due to lycopene?
Hi Lorenzo, I don't know of any high lycopene corn varieties, I just did a quick Google search and all the links were to papers describing lycopene production in the leaf tissue, nothing about lycopene in the kernels. I'd say maize is not a great candidate as a high lycopene food, probably easier to focus on tomatoes or Autumn Olive (Eleagnus umbellata) for high lycopene as those already naturally very high in that carotenoid.
New seed 2020?
Thank you for another really awesome video.
I'm guessing that the high carotene flint corn would make egg yolks darker during the winter. We raise chickens & their yolks get pale towards the end of our Canadian winters, after months without green feed. It would be useful to have high carotene chicken feed (totally aside from the actual food value, people expect their free range eggs yolks to be orange & I've had comments about the pale yolks at times.)
High carotene corn would certainly be simpler & less expensive than supplementing the winter ration. Thanks again.
Profound Confusion, I don't know exactly how to access the Canadian seedbank, but I know that the University of Guelph has worked with Cargill North Temperate Zone Cateto, which is PI #613095 in the USDA-ARS system, so I bet there are Canadian accessions that you could work with. That would be a great starting point IMO.
Sand Hill Preservation has a corn bred for chickens named "Chicken". ( Go figure 😂)
I believe they ship to Canada. They are in Iowa I think.
It's an OP breed. It's multicolor with the methionine as one of the things selected for ( if I remember correctly). The description explains it on the website.
Please tell properties ( characters) of male and female seed of maize
How do you test for protein?
I'm in Maryland. There are a bunch of corn farmers near me. I'm assuming they're growing a hybrid or gmo animal feed corn. How do you ensure that your breeding corn isn't contaminated by varieties grown by nearby farmers? Just those bags that go over the developing corn? My other question, how do you know the nutrient make up and density of your corn? Pay for lab tests? Thanks for any information you can share.
Probably the easiest way is to use the corn to tell you if there was a cross happening. The good thing to know is, corn pollen is actually pretty heavy so most of it drops out of the air after a few hundred feet. It also is not viable for very long, so the window when the pollen is alive and capable of germinating on your corn's silk after leaving the anther is very short. So if you are a couple hundred feet away from commercial corn, and especially if you have some woods or some other windbreak in between, the level of cross pollination would be very very low. The second thing you can do if you want to grow a corn that is the same average maturity time as commercial corn, is to grow a white variety. In a white corn, the crossed kernels would show up on the ear as yellow kernels due to Xenia. I've got a whole video on Xenia, which goes a bit more in depth. ruclips.net/video/AvLJ85RJW1I/видео.html In order to see the crosses though, you have to have clear/colorless pericarp and white endosperm. So your choices of varieties are limited to those types of corns.
In terms of nutritional content. You can send the corn to a forage laboratory and get basic information like protien, fat, etc. I send my samples to DairyOne in Ithaca, NY, but there is almost certainly a forage lab in MD you could use. For other stuff, I just have to guess because I cannot afford the cost of the tests. Hope that helps.
@@oxbowfarm5803 that does help, thank you for the informed and quick response! I really appreciate your efforts dude! I'll check out those other videos! Have a great day man.
I am not a big fan of eating field corn, perhaps I misunderstood your intent in preservation of lost lines. good luck
How to identify the male and female seed in maize
Argh! You didn't talk about the pink ears...
Well, its not really a trait I'm focussing on. Pink splotching or striping on a whole ear like that is all pigment confined to the maternal tissue, the pericarp. So its an indication of the genetics of the mother plant vs the embryo. Pericarp color is something I'm selecting away from because you cannot reliably see through it to understand what is going on in the kernel itself, which I'm way more interested in. Carol Deppe describes a lot about selection for pericarp color strains in "the Resilient Gardener". She believes that different pericarp colors give different flavor profiles. For myself, I have been completely unable to detect any flavor differences between colored and uncolored pericarp selections of the same variety, either my own corns or Carol's corns (which I've used in my flints). So I'm eliminating pericarp color and any possible flavor qualities they provide in favor of clear pericarp that allows me to see the endosperm and select for nutritional composition and starch composition.
Ya, your Xenia video got me thinking I made the wrong decision in
choosing Painted Mountain as a start point... but the appeal of the reds
and blues, and the fact that it is Montana hardy...
Painted Mountain is a great corn, especially if you are in Montana already. It would be pretty simple to pull out clear strains of Painted Mountain, Carol Deppe has already done it. Her "magic manna" series are just single color pericarp selections of Painted Mountain. It only takes a couple of generations to get rid of most of the pericarp color if you select hard against it. I'm barely getting any in my flour or flint, and I started with corns that were full of pericarp color in a lot of cases.
Oxbow Farm very encouraging! I'm no where near Montana, but it runs to 49 deg. north. I'm half way between Ottawa, Ontario, and Montreal, Quebec, 45.5 deg north... For the most part, if it'll grow in Montana, it'll grow here.
If your up north but further east then the issue with Painted Mountain is it is not great in humid climates in terms of tolerance to fungal disease, particularly Northern Leaf Blight and the various stalk, root, and ear rots. I'd recommend adding in some strains of 6-Nations White flour corn, which is from your area already, and there are definitely accessions in the Canadian Germplasm repository.