Why is Japan’s Yasukuni Shrine so controversial?
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Yasukuni Shrine in the Japanese capital Tokyo has long been a place of controversy since it enshrines the nation’s 2.5 million war dead including 14 Class-A war criminals. Since 1975, several prime ministers and cabinet members have visited Yasukuni in an official capacity, sparking anger in China and South Korea, which both suffered under Japanese imperial rule in the early 20th century. Yasukuni has also generated controversy domestically. The shrine is the centre of Japan’s native Shinto faith, yet regarded by some as a symbol of militarism and a place where leader visits violate the principle of separation of religion and state.
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This shrine is controversial because the Japanese government choose not to separate those in military convicted of war crimes from those who died in wars. The Japanese government ,unlike Germany still admires their leaders who were guilty of committing heinous war crimes during WW2. The solution is simple that is to separate those convicted of war crimes in another shrine but Japan refused to do this. The current Japanese government still have desire to respect war criminals.
But the United States didn't hold the Emperor accountable for the war crimes despite Tojo clearly stating that all choices were up to the Emperor to decide and approve. MacArthur decided to remove Hirohito from the list of war criminals needed to be arrested (despite Stalin and Churchill's disapproval).
@@u.npeacekeeperball432 Do you think Emperor could say “No” when literally 90% of the government is controlled by the army? U slow aren’t u kiddo?
I think only Germany avoids praising them. Countries like UK, USA still praise their own war criminals
@@u.npeacekeeperball432 Two reasons; the USA saw Japan as constitutional monarchy and was convinced that Hirohito as an emperor was only there for ceremonial functions and not in charge of the whole operations the way Prime Minister was. Another reason was that the Americans had long view of using Japan as ally to buffer the spread of communism. Indicting the revered emperor as war criminals was counter productive in this long term strategic interest. The whole sins imperial Japan committed during war times seemed to be pinned on PM Tojo although there were many more individuals responsible for war atrocities that managed to escape death penalty for example General Ishii Shiro who led the infamous unit 731.
@@u.npeacekeeperball432yeah and usa recruited nazis to work in NASA. Let's say moral ethics was not the US's strong suit.
Well, considering Abe Shinzo's grandfather, Kishi Nobusuke, was himself a class A war criminal for his atrocities as the shadow boss of Manchuria. The very fact that he was not only let go by McArthur's cronies in exchange for his willing cooperation as an anti-communist bulwark, but also went on to become the PM of Japan, instead of having justice served to him, explains perfectly well why the Yasukuni is controversial.
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I understand but by showing mercy to the emperor that's how we were able to build A great friendship with Japan and there lucky cause if the Soviet Union were to force them to surrender before we did there nation wouldn't be what it is today by not only getting rid of the emperor but his family and government/military officials and would've been treated very harshly compare to the treatment we gave them which was more humane that's how they became A democratic Allie restoring peace by signing A treaty in 1952 which meant no more fighting also during the 1950s/60s they became the 🥈 largest economy behind the US if this wasn't the case they would have joined the dinosaurs instead.
The pain and suffering they caused to humanity and peace was cruel they learned there lesson by suffering not only the largest air raid bombardment but having the first atom bombs dropped on them but despite the destruction I'm impressed how quickly they recovered cause Hiroshima was reduced to A burning waste land now all that's left is for them to admit to what they did just like Germany who were smarter than them cause not only did they surrender when they knew that they were way out of there league but fully admit to what they did.
You adore America but the Japanese don't. Alleged A class war criminals were unfairly judged by America for the purpose of revenge, it's not any official judgment for the Japanese. You can’t impose such pro-American sentiment on the Japanese. The Japanese have their own judgment.
@@Yk1000- the largest air raid and 2 A- bombs was nothing compared to what they did to the people of Asia. Stop whitewashing Japanese history. They deserved everything that has happened, and it's not even enough.
Even today, Japan continues to downplay, deny, and avoid educating its people about their history. And towing American political stance, instead shifts the narrative towards anti-communism and how it is a democratic ally. Which, if you know Japanese politics, it is not. Because it's not a democracy if 1 party rules for like 70 out of the 80+ years after WW2. And that party, the LDP are closely associated with far right Japanese organizations such as the Nippon kaigi, which is also a primary proponent that refused to remove war criminals from the Yasukuni shrine. And many continues to believe japan did nothing wrong, and they were only made to pay because they lost.
Imagine Germany honoring the Nazis with a shrine except that those Japanese war criminals committed crimes 10 times worse.
It's ok because they are not white.
@@user-kw4dr8gd2twhy is that meaningless, a Japanese fascist is still fascist, even he's in a shrine.
@@user-kw4dr8gd2t 日本はアメリカの犬です
@@user-kw4dr8gd2t 你的存在没有意义
@@user-kw4dr8gd2t human language please
some of you might not understand why neighboring countries blast on Japanese politicians visiting Yasukuni Shrine, in this shrine there are dozens of a list war criminals ( according to International Military Tribunal for the Far East) still being worshiped, this is a manifestation that the official government of Japan refuse to acknolwedge the war crimes and atrocities this country commited in China, Korea and southeast asia. If you as a Japanese teen, he probably knows nothing about Japan's notorious conducts in the past. this part of history is not taught and totally erased by the government, which is a stark contrast to modern German's attitude that admits fully and apologize to the victims.
You adore America but the Japanese don't. Alleged A class war criminals were unfairly judged by America for the purpose of revenge, it's not any official judgment for the Japanese. You can’t impose such pro-American sentiment on the Japanese. The Japanese have their own judgment.
forget japanese teen, millenial, that mean the one that now should reach 30s, mostly think pearl harbor are just movies, and barely know anything about their ww2 history
適当な嘘つくなよ、日本の教科書も見た事ないくせに何が「日本は謝罪もせず残虐行為を否定している」だよ、結局日本が何回謝罪しようがお前みたいな末端の人間に何一つ伝わってないんだからこれまでの日本の謝罪は全部無駄だったって事だよ。つまる所、中国と韓国はいつまでも被害者フレームを利用して日本との外交問題が起こるたびに反日プロパガンダを煽るだけで愚かな国民が一致団結するんだからいつまでたっても日本を許すメリットがないんだよ。
It was actions not declaration, Japanese has made reparations towards the governments. Unfortunately these governments needs as much funding at that time for various reasons. And in South East Asia, Japan is the biggest investor granting loans with practically 0 interest.
And also the thing now about publicly admitting the mistakes of the past, for a country, it means spending $$$, lots of money. You'd be a fool, to think it's just about national pride that's why they haven't.
investment is based on a company's fundamental aim of making profits. it's an economic action rather than deeds of reparation. So what about Germany, so Germany is willing why the Japanese are not? why they don't educate their children about this part of history? @@GenJuhru
One thing that nobody knows is, the emperor himself (also previous emperors like hirohito and akihito) never visited this shrine unlike the prime ministers.
He used to visit and mourned there, not anymore after the class-A war criminals were moved into the shrine. His son also didn't visit, so is his grandson.
The royal family should resume visiting the shrine.
@@abc2390986 not a problem unless they should separate the war criminals and other whom involved in atrocities they did in the past.
@@freeskier64 that's also i want to say.
In fact, it is difficult to find records of Tenno visiting shrines by looking at records over the past two thousand years. Any shrine
Forgiveness is to move forward, but not to forget is our future peace, we can forgive but never forget
They should own their mistakes NOT deny them
i wonder why all the japanese reply not in english. this is the fundamental psyche of their behavor.
@user-kw4dr8gd2t no u are not, first of all, u are still occupied in okinawa, second, the fxxking war criminals are in the shrine!
Well the Japanese are very very brave… until they lose. Then they become wimpy sore losers like the kind of girl in their ehem “animations”
@user-kw4dr8gd2t Not true
@user-kw4dr8gd2t That's what you people say, however, where was the compensation to china for nanking? To Singapore for sook ching? To Malaysia? To vietnam for stealing all its food? Also if you truly apologise, your school system should teach about the war crime like unit 731, nanking and such... however, it seems your people have not learned it, considering most japanese people have no clue what nanking is!!!
Yasukuni Shrine is a highly political shrine that was originally built by the Meiji government to legitimize its overthrow of the Edo shogunate.
At the beginning of the Boshin War, the imperial family was still on the side of the Shogunate, but this shrine also enshrines the enemies of the Imperial Court who were on the Meiji Restoration side.
Furthermore, although it has the name of a Shinto shrine（神社）, it more like a Taoism shrine（廟） than a shrine（神社） that treats the dead as heroes.
When this shrine got criticized from overseas, it is only criticized for enshrining war criminals who committed war crimes in Asia.
but this shrine also served as a facility to glorify death, telling many young people at the time, ``If you fight and die for Japan, you can become a heroic spirit.''
I used to like this shrine, but the more I learned about it, the more I felt there were various political, historical, religious, and moral contradictions in it, so I don't like it anymore.
New servant class: War Criminal.
No. Ancient religions always built temples for humans who were considered meritorious. Not just Taoism, but Balinese Hinduism and Shintoism. they pray for their ancestors to rest in peace and not forget their services. that is it,
i like Yasukuni
Yasukuni >>>>> Comfort Women
@@JoJ.Sen1Jing yeah im Mao Zedong like this
If someone from the Middle East created an Osama bin Iaden memorial shrine, than would you rather called them extremist, or rather someone who preserved the Arabic culture???
The same goes to Japan who decided to honor their criminals
Osama bin Laden isn't a country leader or a legitimate country's general assigned to fight in a war, he is a terrorist that defied his country for whatever reason and became a terrorist leader. Your analogy doesn't work at all it is apples and oranges.
The only thing standing between becoming a war hero or a war criminal most of the time is the outcome of the war. Therefore it is quite normal and seen all around the world that morally questionable figures get venerated or honored. Also it can be said then that Americans decided to honor criminals and genociders because they still celebrate Colombus day or thanksgiving but that is just nonsensical and it shows a lack of perspective to natural cultural evolution.
@@Ceylin_Kurtbogan Let's change it to HitIer then
The Russians promote and shill for Stalin and America for FDR but its ok when they do it apparently. The shrine is not even dedicated to one person but is a religious memorial
Japanese probably wouldn’t mind if such shrine was made, even if their loved ones were killed in 9/11. What you think and what Japanese think of “shrine” is different.
Why do you equate war with terrorism? At least they're not actively attacking civilians.
I have visited the Yasukuni Shrine while in Japan for business. Overall it is an excellent museum and has very nice exhibits showing the war from their standpoint. I did notice some obvious glossing over of some events (such as the Manila Intermuros massacres) which I wrote about in a visitors book. Allow me to recall a conversation I had with my father after he started communicating with a young German gentleman who lived in the area of Germany where my father’s brother was killed in action (RIP Uncle Jack) they traded some fascinating letters and developed quite the friendship. I asked my father if he harbored any resentment toward Germans in general because of his brother’s death. He said that he did not, and the reason was that the average German solider was following orders and doing his duty. He believed all wars are started by the politicians and he thought if 2 countries got into a disagreement it was best to have several regular folks from each country sit down at a kitchen table over coffee and sort it out. So I agree with many of the other comments here that if the shrine eliminated the convicted war criminals then the shrine could have a different meaning and let the regular folks honor the on-the-ground soldiers and sailors who died doing their duty. (Slightly ironic, Dad was in the Seabees in the Pacific during the war and after the surrender he served in Sasebo, Japan during the USA Occupation and really enjoyed the regular folk there).
i like Yasukuni
As a As a Korean, I think this makes the most sense - most soldiers were drafted and destined to go to the front whether they wanted to or not, so it's only natural to memorialize those who simply participated in the war. In fact, it's my understanding that memorials to ordinary soldiers, not generals, are allowed in Germany.
The problem is that war crimes are diluted or rationalized in the process, and memorializing generals who are responsible for war crimes, and if Germany had memorialized Himmler, Göring, Reinhard Heydrich, etc., they would have faced a lot of criticism.
This is why it's still very hard to forgive Japan for their war crimes against Asia-Pacific, they never had their own 'vergangenheitsbewältigung'.
"vergangenheitsbewältigung" no idea cannot pronounce it but i feel it sounds like a cool weapon, or an amazing special attack that will finish it.
Who is finding it hard to forgive Japan? What do you mean by Japan? The country, geographically? The people? What are you even talking about?
Japan invaded and did war crime to Indonesians but we in the end work together, especially in automotive industry. Look up the history of Toyota Kijang and you'll find out the meaning behind its name
@unregisturd Literally every country occupied by Japan during WW2: Philippines, China, Korea, etc.
@@HyperVanilo still does not justify glorification the Japanese state give to those war criminals, with lots of them may had involvement in Pontianak massacre of 1943, which Japan may still deny it ever happened, like how the deny Nanking massacre as well
Flying the imperial army flag is offensive. The war crimes committed in Asia under that flag have gone largely unanswered.
@@user-kw4dr8gd2t それは児童強姦者の旗です
Well u.k. are still using the union flag when it also symbolize colonization lol. So is that really matters? 😅
That's so silly. Air force veteran here, many of our US naval & air force insignias have the Japanese rising sun...On our planes, ships, uniforms, squadron insignias, etc.
To this day that is the flag of the Japanese navy and is flown on international waters. You can cry about it on the internet but that flag ought to stay
Imperial flag is there navy flag tho
Union Jack used by the UK is way worse lol, it's linked to centuries of colonialism, oppression and slavery on a much larger scale, spanning Africa, Middle East and Asia with even more people affected, some still suffering from the effects of their greed to this day yet no one is crying about it. Bit hypocritical isn't it? A flag is nothing more than a design on a piece of fabric and it can't have notorious intents, it's humans that choose to do bad things under the flag so the flag is not to blame
I was born and raised in the American south. I can understand where they’re coming from. There’s so many monuments honoring confederate soldiers while those honoring confederate generals are the most controversial. My family driving though downtown often pass by a 6 foot obelisk that’s built on the sight of a church that burnt down during the civil war. Beneath the obelisk it reads “Our Confederate Dead” so if you’re going though Tokyo and you see something in a Shinto or Buddhist shrine that says “Our Japanese WWII Dead” I can understand how some looking on the outside would get upset. We in America have completely come to peace with Germany, Italy, and Japan after the war ended. American news media has never made a fuss about the events mentioned in the video.
If we in the south gave into every demand, we would be slaves for black people. I dont think it will ever stop until the media finds something else to moan about.
A lack of punishment of criminals after the war has led to this
Check out war-criminal countries such as America, France, Britain, they adore the statues of slavers, colonialists. However, those enshrined at Yasukuni are heroes who fought against evil Chinese supremacists and cruel American slavers and colonialists.
The real controversy with Yasukuni is that the 13 war criminals were quietly enshrined in 1969, over 20+ years after they were executed.
Why did Japan wait 20 odd years to do it? Why do it at all? We know why.
Well americans are calling american soldiers a war heroes who killed innocent people in iraq and afghanistan.🤦🏼♂️
I heard that the caretaker of the shrine refused to let them in. So they waited for him to die. And moved class C, and B war criminals in there first. Before finally moved class A war criminals into it
I saw a video of someone who secretly video parts of the museum. It contains a lot of false information and justifies Japan's invasion. One wrote like, Japanese killed 300,000 chinese soldiers disguised as civilians in Nanking. Wow if I have 300,000 soldiers why would I bother to disguise?😅
You adore America but the Japanese don't. Alleged A class war criminals were unfairly judged by America for the purpose of revenge, it's not any official judgment for the Japanese. You can’t impose such pro-American sentiment on the Japanese. The Japanese have their own judgment.
Even the current emperor himself no longer visit this shrine for a personal reason i heard.
Emperor hirohito no longer visit this shrine in 1975 (i forgot the exact year) and his successors never visit this shrine again.
The shrine's standing means symbol of geopolitical ambition. Japanese ruling class wants Japan to be a world superpower.
Hakko Ichiu ....All I know If China and The United States become Balcanized, Japan will restart its own ambitions .…..
But……No ones know what will happen in the future….
Prediction is insanely difficult
If Japanese had wanted to be a super power, we would have been much better than this. lol
Impossible
@@polarspirit Every single single person own chances to become President…..haha
@@nirvana4165 incorrect, in Japan, you have to be from a "politic family" or you have to be extremely rich like bankers or owns big company
The Yasukuni Shrine is basically an amusement park for Japanese war-crime deniers and ultra-nationalists. They claim to "pay respect" for the soldiers when they are just fantasizing about the resurrection of Japan's long lost imperial might.
Those ultranationalists still exist as for today.
@@kadruninsaf5467it’s not only Japan, every country has it.
@@aproy5256 i'm saying the japanese ultranationalists specifically, and yes they also exist in many countries even in my country indonesia. Thanks to youtube, twitter, facebook and instagram for exposing these groups, i'd found there are thousand and possibly millions of them in my country. I'm a nationalist myself but for my country and not for other countries.
Its a religious memorial for dead people. In their culture you venerate the dead without judging. You cant demand they change their religion and culture to please Chinese communists and give into an Abrahamic guilt based self hatred culture.
@@kadruninsaf5467 What do you think of Indonesia's massacre of Chinese in 1998?
One of the problems is that many Japanese know very little about what Japan did in WW2 as it is not widely taught in schools in Japan and many of its War Criminals are still revered as heroes to many Japanese. It is usually only when Japanese go abroad that they start to learn the truth of what atrocities the Japanese military did during WW2. It’s a tough pill to swallow when it’s discovered your hero isn’t so much of a hero.
Why Westerners are not blamed while only Japan is criticized😂
They are just on a different side of the war. They lost their lives for their country just like every other fallen soldiers and this is enough to make them great heroes of Japan. Besides what evil acts did they do? For starters civilian casualties during WWII occurred everywhere so saying they are guilty because of that is just nonsense. Beside if we are to blame civilian deaths shouldn’t the country that dropped two nuke being the ultimate big bad?
In short, you want to interfere with the Japanese people's view of history, so you are asking them to change the education of Japanese children to what you want. Do you understand how abnormal saying is? Or is it incomprehensible to Chinese people who have never experienced a democratic society? That is 100% interference in internal affairs.
Hero is an overstatement. That's not taught
@@abc2390986God give me strength to forgive the sheer stupidity and ignorance of your comment.
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Not only Japanese people but also Taiwanese people visit this place many times every year.
*This should be shown in schools!*
A curious detail is that one of the princes of the Korean royal family ended up there and they refused to return his remains to Korea.
North Korea already abducted a girl descendant of that family decades ago.
How do the royal princes ended up there in the first place ?
@@happysaladd8951 As I remember from when i saw my source, the Japanese wanted to erase almost any trace of the culture, and they even changed the names of many Korean citizens Making them low class citizens , the prince was forced to join the army and found himself in Hiroshima(You already know what happened there) then, being considered a soldier of the empire, his body was taken to that shrine, ignoring the wishes of the rest of his relatives, I think even the government South Korea asks for his body to be buried on Korean soil
So many people saying we don’t learn about the war in Japan… this is not true. We learn about the war not only in history classes, but in various other classes and field trips etc. It felt awful to read through the textbook as my own country made mistakes after mistakes leading up to the war, and committing atrocities during the war.
Sadly, some (many) students don’t take these classes seriously, as it is just another type of school work for them.
lol. not surprised. you japanese will ALWAYS be failures when it comes to world history, specifically ww2. just accept it. lol. i won't trust ANY japanese when it comes to history. you may have those fancy and expensive looking schools and universities but the whole world KNOWS you're a joke in educational history. lol.
Bowing down at Yasukuni Shrine is shameful for all who know about history.
No. I've bowed there back when I was a pilot for the US air force, very beautiful shrine that respects those who fought for their country. They have every right to uphold their war heroes just as we do
@@user-pn3im5sm7kNow let's put Bin Laden in a shrine and I want to know your reaction
My grandfather was an American bomber pilot in WW2 who married a Japanese woman, my grandmother, whose father was in the Japanese Imperial army.
I respect both of my ancestors who had to fight for their countries because their leaders were selfish.
@@user-pn3im5sm7kwell said
@@user-pn3im5sm7kIf the likes of Kishi had his way the US would have suffered an outbreak of the bubonic plague.
Its not a crime to say something wrong about history in japan .
It is in Germany. Germans are personally affected in their lives by the law to remember history. If its a crime and you do something criminal you will personally feel fear what you say in the past.
Thats why germans remember the past (only that part)
As an American, we have people that worship the confederacy and still say things like "the south will rise again!!!"
So this isn't that bad 😅
Japanese Heisenberg isn’t real, he can’t hurt you
Hideki Tojo :
The fact japan doesnt teach their youngs bout their war attrocities is disgusting.
If you're interested in this issue, read Divided Memories: History Textbooks and the Wars in Asia, written by researchers at Stanford University, at least instead of believing Chinese media propaganda or random internet nonsense. I think it's 100 times wiser.
@@user-vw8it9oo8h Yeah bro, then all the stories from Korea, The Philippines and all the other places Japanese leadership showed its true face surely are Chinese propaganda as well. Grow a brain, please, and stop living in denial.
Does White European teach their youngs about their colonies in America, Africa, Australia and Asia?
They should not hate themselves like many in the west sadly do.
Some of the students say they don't care about Japanese history at all they only care about core subjects. My personal antidote is that history is like the politicians who try to whitewash it. If you ignore it, it'll come back to bite you.
3.5 years of Japan occupancy in Indonesia was worst than 300 years of Dutch Colonialism in Indonesia.
The pity is most of young Indonesian never knew or learned the history.
Yesss it really is such a shame
The young generation seems do not know the history, altho i think its more like they choose to ignore it because of the pop Japan culture now
I'm also enjoying Pop Japan Culture, but no matter what the history must never be forgotten, that also include what they have done in the past
Freeland COVERS UP ...........
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@@Marrtpoas an indonesian, i can respect your opinion.
You have mfers in here saying they were awesome....
young SEA ppl : so what? i don't care coz i love anime XD
(not only indonesia. whole SEA)
This is why that when it comes to nation who admits that their past is wrong and have a self-responsible that they should not let that happen again, Germany has my respect. A lot of people are
They don't shy away to those things. They can be both proud of their culture and tradition while at the same time, they are not denying their past mistakes
Another funny Korean. First of all, no Japanese admits the past is wrong. Those who are enshrined in Yasukuni are A-class war heroes. Koreans don't need to behave so much like the slaves of the West adopting the Western criteria. Self-responsible??? The Japanese will do that again if they need to, don't think as if they regret it. PM Kishida is now expanding Japan's military, and the Chinese empire is trying to invade Taiwan, South China Sea and conquer the world, it's the same as the 1930s.
Germans are being replaced and taught to hate themselves because of this guilt based muh responsibility culture. No one should hate their own race.
Germany will not have a culture, or traditions because of their self-hatred, guilt, and tarnished international image based on the mistakes of their ancestors.
Germany is by definition a land mass inhabited by Germans. Deutschland translated is German-nation. This is the area of land allotted to the German people because of history, but more importantly this is the land for them to preserve their language, culture, and traditions. At what point does Germany not become Germany anymore. Is it when 10% are not culturally, linguistically, or genetically German? Is it 20%, maybe 60%? The beauty of the world is in its cultures, and peoples. Much like with paint when you mix two much blue in your red it is no longer red. When you mix all your colors together you lost all your colors but one. Unfortunately, this is the current state of affairs especially in Germany.
@@leviturner3265 Your text is on point 👍
There's a reason why the current emperor doesn't visit Yasukuni Shrine.
There's a reason why the emperor wasn't charged at all.
@@thelastdefenderofcamelot5623 Oh look, it's the liars who are here to misinform people
DO remember that this shrine is NOT state owned. The USA told the Japanese to separate it from the EMPEROR / state. Which they did ... handing it over to a private organisation who some have questioned re their honouring of war criminals.. Of the 2,466,532 people named in the shrine's Book of Souls, 1,068 are war criminals or alleged war criminals including fourteen men charged with Class A war crimes (eleven were convicted on those charges, one was found not guilty of Class A but guilty of Class B, two died during or before trial) by the International Military Tribunal for the Far East, because of the decision to honour individuals who were found responsible for serious breaches of international humanitarian law, China, Russia,[2] South Korea and North Korea have called the Yasukuni Shrine an exemplar of the nationalist, revisionist and unapologetic approach Japan has taken towards its conduct during World War II. The USA allowed what transpired following the Japanese defeat, for extremists to deny, block and often pervert the truth re war crimes, crimes against humanity and many other terrifying horrors the Japanese were found guilty of. Denying that history to millions of school children from kindergarten onwards.. many of whom grew up without knowing the truth partly due to many ex war criminals ending up in positions of power within the 'diet' / political overseers.
In the first place, there is no clear legal basis for the distinction between A, B, and C. These are criminal categories used by the Allies for convenience in selecting war criminals, and the designation "Class A war criminal" is merely a "common name.
The Koreans serving the Imperial Japanese Army are the one who committed these crimes.
Yasukuni Shrine is a place to honor those who have died in the line of duty since 1868. Not only in the Pacific War, people who served Japan are enshrined in Yasukuni Shrine after their death. Too many people misunderstand the meaning of the existence of Yasukuni Shrine in the first place.
I used to teach at a private school right next door to here. I’d always see police around there.
Would the jew and Europeans protest if German built a monument to honor Hilter
The Yasukuni Shrine is one of the most beautiful sacred places in the world. I've visited every year since I moved to Tokyo.
🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
It's really a lovely place except for the disgusting revisionist exhibition in the building next to the shrine
Yikes.
@@siberianresort5722
Shouldn't pandas like you who are fooled by Chinese propaganda learn history for once? lol
I have also visited there once.
I've visited the shrine many times. It's a grand structure. The museum there recounts centuries of Japan's military history, not just the wars of the 20th century. There are no physical remains there. "Enshrining" a soul is a different and separate matter from "interring" physical remains. The world does not exist in which the Chinese or Korean governments will be satisfied with Japanese atonement for war. Those Chinese and Korean critics are living in a different universe. Most Japanese don't care at all about Chinese' or Koreans' feelings on the matter. Interestingly, almost all the statuary at the shrine is life-size. The Kitanomaru, the Edo Castle Tayasu-mon Gate, and the Nippon Budokan are just across the street. There are four schools, one Protestant Christian church and one Roman Catholic monastery immediately adjacent and in the immediate neghborhood. The road adjacent to the shrine precinct slopes downward towards Jimbocho.
I've been to that Yasukuni shrine. There's a museum inside Yasukuni shrine, full of propaganda that justifies and glorifies the Pacific War of Japan.
The most shocking thing about the museum was that they describe Japan's Pacific War as a liberation war to liberate Asia from the West.
Interestingly, their argument is the same as what China says while pressuring its neighbors now days. 🤔
@@Jake-gy7qo The displays of the Pacific War are only a fraction of the museum's contents. The majority of the displays are devoted to Japan's long history - its history of civil war as rival factions strove for a hegemony.
China also need to give up Tibet.
I believe that visiting Yasukuni just reminds us painfully of all that has happened in the past so that we can improve upon ourselves
That’s easy to say if you’re not one of those whose ancestors were amongst the countless innocents mercilessly slaughtered by the Japanese military. The acts carried out by the Japanese during world war 2 to fellow humans are beyond monstrousity.
@@JanBanJoovi-ol1qv Yasukuni Shrine is a museum.
Every nation has a right to appreciate those who gave their life for it.
I feel like that right should be taken away when those leaders committed horrifying war crimes, but sure
🇵🇭: We're going to forget the whole World War 2 thing, if you're gonna give us free anime.
🇯🇵: You got it, fam.
I've been to that Yasukuni shrine. There's a museum inside Yasukuni shrine, full of propaganda that justifies and glorifies the Pacific War of Japan.
The most shocking thing about the museum was that they describe Japan's Pacific War as a liberation war to liberate Asia from the West.
Interestingly, their argument is the same as what China says while pressuring its neighbors now days. 🤔
Nothing controversial every country celebrates it's heroes. One's heroes are another's villians. We can't celebrate any historical figure if the criteria is consensus of all. Also most visitors seem to be visiting only for knowledge & praying for peace
Yup. Respect them!
It was a bit hypocritical of China to talk about military aggression when today they are doing it to their neighbors right now!
1:09...Nice hat. Is it an Ecuador (Panama) hat?
It's honestly a rather nice museum
you barely seeing youths in japan
In addition to Yasukuni, the graves of deceased Japanese soldiers are located in the cemeteries where they were born and raised. Since Yasukuni is far away, we visit the graves of soldiers in nearby cemeteries.
you can have mr predoiu and mr iohannis explaining. whom else?
It’s like a crowd hold person A accountable because person A owns a shrine and is paying respect for his great grandfather, whom is a serial killer and had taken the lives of many innocent people.
It's not a dedication to war crimes, its dedication to men who died for their country and their families, as a former service member I must respect another warrior.
You're misinformed. Regular Japanese soldiers are NOT buried there. Only the Japanese leaders who caused the wars are buried there (including 998 war criminals). So it's a dedication to their war crimes. Also it's NOT a cemetery. It's a shrine and war museum. Most regular people avoid that place. Only Japanese politicians, Japan war crime deniers and ultra-nationalists flock to that place.
The fact is that history is written by the victorious side. However, what can be seen is only the winning side. We will discover a different history when the losers cannot be destroyed. To prevent this from happening, the truly evil countries will block all channels to prevent their citizens from seeing this. Because they dare not face the facts. Japan is obviously not such a country. Anyone who reads this paragraph should know who I am talking about.
They also removed Japanese VA for visiting the shrine in a mobile game call Arknight of a character called " Platnium"
It’s a domestic Japanese issue, just like how China is treating their Uighur population. It’s been 80 years. I feel sorry for all the victims of WW2, which is why wars should only be engaged in as the very last resort. But at some point, you just move on. What’s most important is learning from the past. If Japanese want to keep Yakusuni, that’s on them. We’re not going to war against them because people keep visiting this shrine.
There's also 'Yasukuni Shrine' in indonesia, some 3000 japanese soldiers stayed in here to fight against the return of the Dutch, the fallen japanese soldier enshrined as hero in indonesia, and every japanese prime minister and emperor have visited the soldiers grave.
The the japanese controlled indonesia 😂
That’s more in line with the so called “ Japanese co-prosperity sphere” where imperial Japan also wanted to create an impression they are eliminating white colonialism from Asia, so clearly on a micro scale i don’t doubt many soldiers believed and died for it. The big picture remains though, as The “ liberated” nations 😂
@@TheLooking4sunset it would not change the fact that they helped the indonesian defend their homeland from dutch invasion, at least they are doing something better than helping the dutch or do nothing at all.
@@lordtouchme77 But may I ask why Japanese Soldiers were on the soil of Indonesia in the first place?
@@thecrab3128 i can't tell if that is sarcasm or not, but if you are curious then google is your friend.
内政干渉意外の何物でもないな、そもそもA級だのB級戦犯だのが戦勝国側の事後法による一方的な犯罪者扱いでしかない。ほとんどの日本人は東条英機が犯罪者だなんて思ってないよ、あくまでも戦時内閣の難しい舵取りを任され、その責任を被って処刑された１人の政治家でしかない。
っていう日本人の飛躍した論理ね。
他国の干渉については同意。
You can't condem a national shrine to war dead because of 1 war.
Tbh I don't think it matters these countries are just targeting the shrine
To visit a shrine is wrong but to build military bases in South China Sea in present day is not imperialism / act of aggression for Chinese leadership... wow.
America, Britain, China, and Dutch so-called "ABCD Encirclement" which insists the South China Sea is Chinese territory, colonizing SE Asia, and then blocking the Japanese who are trying to get SE Asia for resources, and attacking the Japanese by Flying Tigers troops of America is not imperialism, but the Japanese tried to go through the ABCD Blockage is an aggression....wow, what a logic!
You are speaking as if China is insisting on it now, but it is not true. The ABCD insisted on it a century ago, China drew the 9-dash lines a century ago, and the consistent attack on the Japanese by the ABCD subsequently led to the Pearl Harbour Attack. And you're ranting it's a sneak attack! What incapable creatures get brainwashed so deeply.....wow
China is the Imperial Japan of the 21st century, that much has been established. Your statement however, is whataboutism. Both China and Japan have done/are doing horrible things are the leadership is too childish to acknowledge it.
both of them are wrong.
Yes yes, nice talk about how Mr Mao’s past too bruh. His little fantasies & how he really erased the region & culture of those times. Now China has become culture-less having to revisit the dynasties to relearn history.
Lill bruh said culture less 😂 60% of japanses culture and language was copied from China they were a chinses vassal state to China for 2000 years everything they know about the world was thanks to China. Lill bruh still speaks in a downgraded copycat version of chinses you call japanses calling me culture less😂 learn history instead of cope pls
That's nothing to do with Japanese war crimes! Two wrong don't make one right.
I bet you have as much experience with china as zenz 😂🖕
Except you are allowed to criticize Mao in China, most Chinese Communist Party member nowadays disassociate themself from Mao and consider Mao's decision in his later years to be detrimental, despite his heroic achievement in his early years.
@@exelenxius5832 criticize Mao in China, you dead meat bruh…..
If Perry had not come, Japan would not have interfered with other countries. The Japanese liberated India from the British. But some people will hate this. I think so.
...India liberated themselves.
Those who forget their history are condemned to repeat it. And this time we will have modern nukes ready to repeat them also.
Please never take down this shrine!! Ever!
Japan's government hasn't yet forgotten their glory days, they are waiting for a rebirth of their nation no longer under the strong arm of the U.S. but i doubt that will happen in our lifetime
histroy repeats.
I'm sure they want to be independent from America.
The dead are the dead they can’t change what they did or even apologize they're actions in life were disgusting but in death they are nothing more than ash, ash that left behind families, many of the people shouldn't be celibated but they're families should still have a place mourn
As I have Korean and Chinese friends who have great grandparents who were victimized by the Japanese empirial army I've been told of atrocities commited but holding on to the hate rooted in the past ends up hurting everyone not justbthe original victims my condolences to anyone who may have experienced or anyone who's family may been effected by this issue I hope you all live in peace and prosperity
Japanese schools need to teach kids how China committed atrocities and then invaded Manchuria, Mongolia, East Turkestan, and Tibet.
So you want Japanese schools to brainwash kids with Western (anti-China) propaganda??
@@rm83689 Anti-China? We are part of an ancient culture that doesn't exist in China anymore. We are Tang people.
It’s because they hide behind their soft spoken politeness. It confuses and confounds while maintaining their position. Does time resolve all? Not sure.
Because inside there is the body of a legendary Japanese secret warrior who has a super magic mustache that can shake the earth with a single twist.
War criminal!
There are several misunderstandings in the comment sections. This shrine is now separated from the state authority, and became a private religious institute after the war. The state is not involved with who is enshrined or not. And those who visit the shrine are not necessarily "worshiping" the war criminals. Visiting the shrine is normally seen as a gesture to express a sense of guilt and regret for the citizens who died in vain because of the times they were born in with the militaristic government, pledging that we will not follow the same path Japan once went on.
After the modernization of Japan, the imperial government promoted State Shintoism as a way to create a strong national identity among the citizens. This shrine has been believed to be a place where souls of any dead soldiers who fought on the side of the emperors would come around. In the second world war, a lot of people were drafted unwillingly, and people were not able to raise their voice against the government under toxic surveillance. There was no freedom of speech like we have today, and anyone who opposed the war would have been treated a traitor of the country. Soldiers often expressed their acceptance of death by saying “Let's meet in Yasukuni” before a dying battle. This was to comfort their comrades and loved ones that they can still meet again someday after death.
I can speak as an ordinally Japanese man for the majority of us. State Shintoism is no longer believed. People are abhorrent of the imperial time, and really condemn the situation where the militaristic government created and forced the people to engage in a toxic nationalism. Yes, it's also the fault of the citizens who supported the militarism, but at the same time, citizens who wanted to have a normal life were victims of the times they were born in. I don't worship war criminals, and I condemn the wrong path the government has taken in Asia Pacific. But I have visited the shrine and paid sympathy to those who had unwillingly lost their lives in such time, while appreciating the privilege of myself being born in a peaceful time.
As shown on the video, there are ultra right wingers who deny certain atrocities. Because of the nature of the shrine, it has a strong association with ultra nationalists. I don't support them, but they are a minority. Such people are called 'Kyokuu' and people give them a cold start on the streets. Personally I don’t support the politicians visiting Yasukuni Shrine during official business from the perspectives of separation of church and state. I understand the sentiments from Korea and China on this shrine. Emperors themselves stopped going to the shrine after the shrine decided to enshrine the class A,B,C criminals in the Tokyo trial. But I don't think any prime ministers who has given a prayer at the shrine supports war criminals. They have explained so as well. If it's private, I think it’s their choice to visit the shrine.
I thought all Japanese people sincerely come to Yasukuni shrine for war criminals. But I think it would be fortunate if the majority of people who come to worship while thinking like you do.
But Japanese worship even though they know that there are war criminals, right? If you want to honor truly innocent victims, you could go to national cemetery. A visitor's review of "Japan exists today because of the victims in the Pacific War" is difficult for Koreans to understand. The Pacific War is just war of aggression.
@@user-uf6cd1rn3d Yes, I understand the point of the Korean people too. Like you pointed out, establishing a separate facility may be one solution. That has been proposed by some political parties (e.g. Komei party) to avoid political controversies surrounding class A criminals. Next to the property of shrine, there is a monument dedicated to the nameless soldiers, and some activists claim Japan should expand the facility to build an official Memorial Ceremony for the War Dead. That said, they are not necessarily supporting a state intervention to abolish the shrine / remove the names of war criminals from the point of freedom of religious. Of course we have a ultra right wingers who disagree with this though. But I want to reiterate that people here generally see visiting the shrine as visiting a whole graveyard. It’s ultimately up to the visitor’s choice “who” they would be thinking on their mind. These people are likely thinking of some soldiers who believed they would end up in Yasukuni to meet the loved one after death. There are actually many Koreans, and soldiers from pre-pacific war time who are enshrined too.
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The very HQ of uyoku dantai.
What is the definition of war crimes? The USA used two nuclear bombs, killing more than 100k civilians in Japan, but no one has ever been convicted of war crimes. The world sees what is happening in Gaza, and no one calls it a war crime.
All killing is criminal no matter what “side” you’re on.
If you don’t pay attention to history, you’re doomed to repeat it…
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Yeah, they have been in a certain Comfort Women video aswell
Kind of hypocrite of Chinese government
In my opinion,many Japanese consider visiting shrines to be conservative. And since diet members who visit shrines are usually criticized, the top comment seems a bit exaggerated to me.
The shrine holds a lot of golden age secrets. You gotta find the keys to unlock it.
Japan has their own mindset, beliefs and values, I believe many Japanese are questioning the Yasukuni shrine too, but it's difficult. You honor the fallen soldiers who fought for the country indiscriminately. They were writers, bus drivers, office workers, musicians, criminals, beggars or playboys, rich or poor, whatever. They're honored indiscriminately at this Shrine. It's also a point of view.
that's funny. japanese and history? lol. every time i see any japanese history "expert" and "teacher", i always doubt them with a laugh. now that's parody
@@cheeseburgersuperior1874 I've no idea what your point is. I didn't even mention history or anything about it. Either you expand your opinion, so it has a form and logic, or just don't react at all. "First doubt, then inquire, then discover" -Henry T. Buckle. Your problem is that you're stuck at doubt, and you shoot blank shots here for something that isn't even there.
@@reisen1932 look at that. a japanese DENYING something i say about history. typical. lol.
@@cheeseburgersuperior1874 I see, you're trolling here. 🤔 That's why you're uttering nonsense, no wonder. I'm from Germany by the way. Funny how you think you're outsmarting people here. Hier, du brauchst Ginkgo Biloba, du hast wesentlich nicht genug, alter Schwede 😂.
some visitors probably honor some distant relative. it makes sense to have a place like that.
To one its their war heroes while to the other its their war criminals
I'm honestly tired of China's demagogue propaganda. I would like historical researchers from Japan and China to get together and have a thorough discussion about stories such as the Nanjing Incident and the 30 million people who died in China due to the Japanese invasion, by publicly broadcasting them to the world. All the people who see it can decide for themselves what is true and what is a lie.
All those crudely fabricated stories and propaganda are also made by Hollywood Zionists. You can not solve it unless you deal with Zionist America.
Nothing wrong with remembering the men who fought for your nation.
It's like the Tomb of unknown soldiers in the U.S.
There are no bones or bodies in Yasukuni. It just has a soul. Do you understand that?
Simple answer: war criminals are enshrined and politicians still pay respect to those people who committed such atrocities. The museum which I got to go inside was so hilarious because it paints Japan as a victim.
It’s quite ironic though, a country that prides itself on humility and humbleness can’t even bring themselves to the fact that while the shrine wasn’t always meant to have such a controversial image, it’s become that way because the idiots who couldn’t get over losing the war despite instigating America to join still couldn’t humble themselves and still think of those who committed INTERNATIONAL ATROCITIES as people to be respected. I actually feel bad for any children and youth who subjected to learning history from this shrine filled with lies. To any parents or grandparents that continue to respect this shrine and even worse subject the youth to this nonsense YOU ARE THE PROBLEM. Culture has nothing to do with this, guys like Tojo don’t deserve any respect.
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It is natural to show respect to the graves where our ancestors are buried. Japanese people visit Yasukuni to visit the graves of their ancestors, not war criminals.
Obviously we can see this fact. The truth is there's nothing wrong with that. First of all, as a Sacerdos I believe that one should not criticize religions and their affairs that one does not understand. Secondly, this Shinto shrine has neither a spiritual tablet nor a cemetery. Only the roster. My logic tells me that this is not worshiping criminals. Third, even after World War II there were still far more serious crimes committed by many people in many countries. In the Soviet Union, China, France or the Middle East and Southeast Asia, these men who committed more serious crimes were literally worshiped, and their memorials and statues still stand in those countries. I don't think I know enough about the situation in every country, but I know Japan, and I know that the people in this country are kind and repentant.
After all,🇯🇵 does not prohibit people from knowing the facts like some 😒countries do, and we can talk to Japanese people at any time.
I am Chinese and I think we shouldn’t hold a grudge because (1) 2 generations of Japanese emperors have expressed regret about Japan’s role in the war, coming close to but just short of formally apologising and (2) the Japanese population is aging so fast that pretty soon the entire Yamato race will be resting in some sort of a shrine anyway. Who cares if they worship mountains or trees or rabbits or criminals?
你根本不是中国人，小八嘎骗子
no you're just a Japanese bot😂
You’re right about not holding a grudge but that does not mean they should stop apologizing.
Japan is obliged to tell their victim’s story until the end of time. They must keep telling what they have done so that it will not happen again.
And you might not care but the victim’s family and friends care. If you forget history there is no future. Japan is being condemned because they are trying to hide or distort history.
Japan has responsibility for the war they caused and lost. They should never forget that.
i don't harbour a "blood feud" against japanese people (it should be kind of obvious)
but it is unfair to lay the burden and responsibility solely on the japanese emperor when even hirohito was not that in control over the government
it is clear that the japanese elite actually in charge do not feel much penance for the past
胡扯呢？確實我也同意日本後來出生的人不需要爲父輩的罪負責，但日本在本國教育上的掩埋及政府的集權永遠不會讓右翼消失的。錯誤就應該被消除
For defense only
We fight for the Emperor of mankind
Japan will be seen by most as entirely evil, there’s always not very much told stories there’s few individuals soldiers who made a difference, look up for the name of Capt. Issao Yamazoe (along with forgotten soldier in the history), you’ll know why he was even honored in the Dulag, Leyte Philippines, even after WWII
most? most people in the world give japan a free pass
but yes, there are always the brave and valiant who place truth and righteousness besides the blade
Yasukuni >>>>> Comfort Women
Didn't the Yasukuni Shrine also enshrines the Taiwanese and Koreans who served under Japan?
They are all consider Japanese
Yes, but they're all imperialists all the same.
japan forced colonial subjects to fight, otherwise the punishment would be death. so it was forced, and japan uses taiwanese and koreans enshrined there as to cover up the fact that it praises it war criminals.
@@Funica11 没人允许你们到他国土地进行所谓的“解放”
@Funica11 u do realise the Japanese superiority over the Chinese was nothing more than having a way longer monarchical bloodline right.. China on the other hand as a political entity was much more nuanced
Yasukuni i love you~
They all fought for Japan. RIP
If their fathers are empire founders; warlords; mafia godfathers; and multi millionaires; their fathers are war criminals but rich and powerful; and left them a huge estate. Their feeling must be very complicate. In the end, they are still families. it’s all about the memorial for their fathers; whatever they did.
People tend to ignore the fact that they are war criminals simply because they lost the war. Literally every army general in any country committed murders on civilians during WWII.
Touché. Just don’t say that to the Allies.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hundred_man_killing_contest which country do this in ww2 beside japan?
Dresden. That was a war crime.
@@khalidalali186Who were literal colonialists. 😂😂
They wiped out entire continents and still deny or straight up mock the dead. And they somehow think they have the moral high ground to talk about Japan's past.
"After the war, Fuchida was called on to testify at the trials of some of the Japanese military for Japanese war crimes. This infuriated him, as he believed this was little more than "victors' justice". In the spring of 1947, convinced that the U.S. had treated the Japanese the same way and determined to bring that evidence to the next trial, Fuchida went to Uraga Harbor near Yokosuka to meet a group of returning Japanese prisoners of war. He was surprised to find his former flight engineer, Kazuo Kanegasaki, who all had believed had died in the Battle of Midway. When questioned, Kanegasaki told Fuchida that they were not tortured or abused, much to Fuchida's surprise. He then went on to tell him of a young lady, Peggy Covell, who served them with the deepest love and respect, but whose missionary parents had been killed by Japanese soldiers on the island of Panay in the Philippines.
For Fuchida, this was inexplicable, as in the Bushido code revenge was not only permitted, it was "a responsibility" for an offended party to carry out revenge to restore honor. The murderer of one's parents would be a sworn enemy for life. He became almost obsessed trying to understand why anyone would treat their enemies with love and forgiveness."
It's pretty much widely documented that civilians and POWs were treated far more humanely by the allies than by the Japanese, excluding the Russians for obvious reasons.
There is so many japanese bootlickers here.😮
There should be no controversial, Japan honours their dead.
And it is done in a certain time frame. The controversial is not from inside of Japan, it comes from the outside.
Everyone knows that the postwar Tokyo Trials were revenge trials and were unfair. If not, why would the Allies be the judges? Why aren't the Allies being held accountable for massacring civilians with nuclear bombs? Yasukuni Shrine is a place where the heroes who fought for Japan are enshrined.
I don't have any feelings about it. Many temples and ancestral halls in China have this phenomenon. For example, Guan Yu was actually the perpetrator of the ultimate war crime. Many of the soldiers on war memorials around the world have committed more serious crimes. These are the people who blame Japan. Their double standards are disgusting🤮
There is a thing called international law, which is the set of rules, norms, and standards generally recognised as binding between states.
Have some common sense!
@@joezhou5542 There is a law here called: 《中華人民共和國計算機信息網絡國際聯網管理暫行規定》第六條
This law indicates that your access is prohibited.
@@joezhou5542 Das größte Problem des Rechts besteht darin, dass es die Geschichte nicht beurteilen kann. Aber Moral kann es. Ihre moralischen Maßstäbe basieren also auf Gesetzen, die sich ständig ändern?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@HolyLionProphet Professor, you are right.
Silly Timmy really comparing a historical / mythical character from 2000 years ago to post-modern criminals according to international law🤣