Knowledge is beautiful no matter how dark ..we MUST always talk about Palestine! I've been waiting for this to happen for only 15 years. Some people it's been decades. Get Your Knowledge. Go Read Books. Ffs
I am in Amman right now, with a front row seat to the Iranian attack on Israel yesterday. One of my interviews here is with a prominent Palestinian with a history so rich I can’t even begin to describe it here. So stay tuned ;-)
@@saltcubeanalytics.. Thanks for the heads up; I will be looking for it. A living encyclopedia on Israel-Palestine is Lowkey, a Palestinian rapper and activist, living in England. He often appears on George Galloway's "Mother of all Talk Shows". Kevork Almasian is a Syrian-Armenian political scientist living in Berlin with an excellent understanding of the regions problems.
Many thanks to Martin Shaw for his clear claim that Israel has known and intended to destroy the Palestinian society and its land. One doesn't kill so many civilians, starve them, and decimate their land and services such as hospitals and schools without full knowledge and thus intention.
Delusional, Israel pulled out of Gaza and gave them an open border with Egypt, you know what happened? Hamas built a war machine and attacked Israel just like their platform promises, also Egypt had to close the border because Hamas exported terror to Egypt. Its the people who claim to love and support the Palestinians who see them as nothing more than a tool to use against Israel which guarantees Palestinian destruction over and over. Time to rearm right....
Thank you, Mr. Karat, your interviews are so important and balanced and thoughtful analysis, and many thanks to Professor Michael Shaw. I wanted to rewatch this again. The United States and its allies created these wars of horrors against the Palestinians and now Lebanon. Resistance is is a revolutionary act when nothing else works. Now the meeting with China and Brics on October 28th, we wait and learn more. Thank you both.
Shaw's criticism of Israel seems tepid at best which I guess is why he remains part of the UK establishment. He couldn't help himself in ways during this interview to offer some justifications for that "state's" actions when in the whole & given the complete history there just are no justifications.
@@JohnHersey-eh4su So the innocent people who died don't matter because one third of those killed were military........Wait, doesn't that mean the innocent Palestinians who were killed don't matter because many were terrorists? Your world is quite twisted and Palestinians are your tool....
I don't know if anyone saw a huge group of the diplomats at the General Assembly got up and WALKED OUT when netanyahu got to the podium. It was even better then when the assembly laughed in tRump's face!
Thank you again Thomas! Your whole channel has been shadow banned, otherwise you would rightly have more like 50,000 subs plus. Keep up the great work!
Based on a July 7th article in the Israeli newspaper Haaretz, the "Hannibal Directive" was invoked on Oct. 7th. Who gave the order and how many Israelis were killed by the IDF that day? We know some civilians were killed when an IDF tank fired a shell into a home, because the story was on the news.
The IDF shot hellfire missiles from Apache helicopters at 100 cars and pedestrians fleeing the music festival burning them alive and killing hundreds of people who were burned to a crisp and Israel buried the 100 cars to hide the evidence and refused to allow any independent Inspectors to see them! No babies beheaded and no evidence of rapes! The IDF killed more civillians than Hamas due to the Hanibal Directive!
A post ww2 zio leader said, " We must discard the husk of antisemitism, but keep the kernel of national socialism. " Is there anything else we need to know about the zios.?
I disagree with Mr. Shaw on one thing about Hamas knowing this would happen stating or implying the target was to commit atrocities among the civilians, that is NOT TRUE, Hamas was targeting the IDF only, it was other groups that took the civilians. This is a glaring inaccuracy in his argument.
Passed the 10.000 subscribers mark... Congratulation to the Channel Thomas! More scrutiny/shadow banning to be expected? Call for action, as you call it: Smash the like button People ! + , if you are here for the first time, push the subscribe button! And leave a comment because this too helps the referencement.
I don't see how there can be any question as to whether there was ethnic, "cleansing", if Z's will be confronted with the fact that massacres in a locality, are not just products of war, as Z liars pretend. And so, involving acts of deliberation, they must involve the deliberate driving of a population out of that locality. Why would anyone need further evidence ? And as acts of such, "cleansing", could not have happened without a few racially motivated massacres along the way, that they happened, must prove that not only did Genocide happen, but the artificial racist majority that resulted, was the means by which elections were won, in an imitation of Democracy, ever since. So thereby blowing the pretence of being a civilised Democracy out of the water, the complicity of Northern hemisphere Governments and their media should add to their prosecution. And
I’ve never met an English historian or analyst whose first job isn’t to attempt to ‘repackage’ or whitewash British history. So it isn’t quite ethnic cleansing and it isn’t quite a genocide and it isn’t quite a settler colonial project. Absolutely typically English
Let's shift money from education to feed the poor and house the homeless. Let's shift money from Medicare to Medicade. Let's shift money from defense to solar and wind energy. Let's shut down the UN and sell the property to developers. Let's shutdown all public universities and use the money to end climate change.
His definition of genocide is interesting as well as his support for the underdog. Then he seems to be biased on different perspectives. First he insinuates that hand is comparable to Isis and other terrorist califates but for a historian he seems to truly miss the bigger picture, which is that helps l ballad, Hezbollah, Iran combat those califates and thereof strive to behave in a different fashion, not to mention that Hamas is part of the ICC and therefore purports to adhere to the rules of combats or face the consequences. He should know these basics not to mention the reality of who caused the most damage with tanks and helicopters on the 7th. Then he represents Ukraine as the underdog... Totally oblivious to the fact that NATO is the weight behind it and that the massacre of Ukrainians would have stopped had we supported the peace talks of 2022, when's bojo ran to curtail them... And then he cannot fathom why people find it difficult to vote for someone married to a Zionist who is currently an active vice in the current genocide. Cute but disingenuous.
Palestine population is seven times bigger since 48. This population never dropped once since 48. The definition says eradication of whole or entire population. Do you study something?
Is that what's happening?? WTF! SUCH BS! There's a breakfast club review by a AA woman on yt who reaction video with 2 friends was so illuminating.... making black people wake up to the black faces in high places, being gatekeepers & shills for the undemocratic party
Many palestinians are not arabs, who came to the region later, but the indiginous population, likely inhabiting Palestine since biblical times. They could even be the descendants of the lost Samaritans. It's shameful for the zionists to favor from the beginning a strategy of hostile barging in. There was and still exists actually favorable to the Jews sentiment among the Palestinians. In particular, i recall it expressed in one of the interviews in Rick Steves' dvd program "Holy Land" (only, may be it was within the special features on the dvd). A Palestinian expressed sympathy for the plight of the Jews and support for their return to the land! Sadly, the zionists, it appears, missed on an opportunity to nurture such sentiments, to be respectful to the native population, and ultimately to win their support.
Yes correct. From the very beginning the local population was assisting the Jews. Ironically, the very same Jews who found refuge Arab houses where they were taken in with open arms, considered in their letters back home already then, how to best get rid of their hosts. Very sad indeed.
This is true, thank you Thomas. Edward Said's book "Orientlism " and other essays and writings. The philosopher Spinazo's family moved to Amsterdam in the 1600s. It was the only place that would take them in after Spain's removel of jews. He is one of my favorite philosophers with his writings.
42:00 The Israeli army engaged very early in the morning of 7 October. But they mostly engaged with planes, helicopters and not much ground troops. We all know that the Israeli army is awful at infantry fighting (unless it's against civilians), but they have war technology. Other analysts have said that Hamas likely didn't believe that they would get that far, they just kept advancing because there was no Israeli army there. The plan wasn't even to kill civilians, but they got to the kibbutzim, with no resistance except from some armed residents. Also, they didn't even know about the Nova festival, they were going after the military base that was located beyond the festival grounds. Many definitely took the chance to kill civilians, but there were a lot of fighters that were respectful to their captives and didn't kill civilians (though, taking civilians is a crime, and we should also put pressure on Israel to stop violating the human rights of Palestinians, including imprisoning them, basically taking them hostage).
41:00 I do not agree that Hamas knew that there would be mass civilian casualties, which mainly occurred amongst the Nova music festival goers, because even the organisers of the festival didn't know the venue until Wednesday evening. Ok, al Qassam exploited the situation, sure, but the venue was between Be'eri and Re'im, two of their main military targets, so what exactly were they supposed to do.... We also don't know how many civilians died due to the Hannibal directive. I doubt that Hamas factored in the Hannibal directive. No, I think we can safely say that the objective was military, especially if you realse that the kibbutses in the Gaza envelope have a deliberate military purpose as an early warning area.
Hamas did not attack civilians, Israel did! This is really dishonest. They attacked the soldiers who occupy them and had expected to be confronted by the iof, but the toughest army in the world took 6 hours to show up & when they did, THEY killed the majority of their own people. Hamas were not equipped to burn people to the point they couldn’t be identified and they even reduced their numbers of dead people after realising that some of the incinerated bodies were actually Hamas. This take is highly inaccurate and somewhat disingenuous!
Does the Bible really play a role in ths Israel-Palestine conflict or is only because no European and the US wanted these Jews? The Indeginous Indians in the US can also claim their land and build up a army to remove people from their historical land.
Nevermind the complete ignorance of international case law, and the dolus specialis requirement for an act to be definitively genocidal, that is, acting with a specific intent to cause genocidal harm... There's plenty of blame that can and should be made against Israel legitimately, but ignorant and/or bad faith arguments such as this are what delegitimizes progressive claims on this topic.
i can't help but remember what Solzhenitsyn said about the kids that grew up and knew nothing else but the Gulags. The most adaptable of any age group or persuasion, living their most transformative years in the brutal moral code of the Gulag they behaved like packs of hungry hyenas (paraphrasing). What is happening in Gaza guarantees that there will be no peace in the region in this century and Israelis are only kicking the violence that will eventually be enforced upon them down the road.
Honestly, the Palestinians have never descended to the "animalistic" level. A UN poll, after 10/7 but before the bombs, found that 90% of Gazans -- all survivors of previous Israeli slaughters -- disapproved of Jamas and wanted it gone. Palestinians seem to have developed a survival strategy if empathic group suppirt. The thinnest of safety nets, stretching around everyone.
What's weird is that it's the Israelis, not the Palestinians, who are peeling off the constraints of civil society. Ex. The mob of solid citizens howling for the grape of MORE Palestinian "detainees". Gangs of thug settlers, looting and shooting.
@@LindaYariger there is no doubt in my mind that the Palestinians are and have been holding the moral high ground in the situation they found themselves in. I’m talking about the common people, not the leaders political or orherwise, not the militants. The victims are always stronger than the perpetrator of the violence forced upon them, but maybe this is my upbringing talking. This time though i have the feeling that this is all too much and the complete absence of any sort of justice enforced by international institutions will only make the need of vigilant revenge all the more prevalent.
Martin Shaw makes the same mistake as almost all other Western professors/pundits regarding "Israeli civilians." Who are these innocent "civilians"? 1. Would they be the same innocent "civilians" who are required to complete 2 years of mandatory military service? 2. Would they be the same innocent "civilians" who steal Palestinian land and build, upon the remnants of Palestinian life and civilization, these illegal settlements, many of which the State uses as military outposts? 3. Would they be the same military-trained innocent "civilians" who are then armed by the State to perform security for the State in these oh-so-innocent settlements that function as military outposts of the State? 4. Are these same military-trained and armed "civilians" called civilians because they were wearing civilian clothes at the time they were killed? I understand that it is a violation of international law to target military personnel when they are functioning in civilian capacities, but does that mean that military personnel who DOUBLE as civilians can rightly be counted solely as civilians just because they were not wearing uniforms at the time they perished? Nearly one-third of these so-called civilians who were killed on 7 Oct had titles as officers in the lsraeIi military. And if you refuse to acknowledge the validity of this argument -- that all the adults who live in this _State_ are all virtual military assets -- then that would mean that all those innocent civilians who were killed on 7 Oct were being used as human shields by the State, which amounts to a war crime, because the State approved of the establishment of those settlements in the most dangerous areas of Occupied Palestine, then armed the "civilians" presumably to beat back the savage PaIestinians. Putting that argument aside for a moment, the fact about 7 Oct, as now exposed by Haaretz, is that lsraeI implemented the Hannibal Directive, and with Apache helicopters, Occupation Forces dropped full rounds of hellfire missiles on the affected settlements, killing the vast majority of those "innocent civilians" themselves. BTW: after the helicopters ran out of missiles they returned to base and reloaded for another round of fire. Meanwhile down below, State tanks were moving in and firing upon houses known to have contained BOTH Hamas fighters and their lsraeIi hostages. When you choose subjects for your interviews, you should either avoid interviewing such apologists for Israeli crimes, or at the very least challenge their mis- and disinformation. Otherwise you do your audience / followers a great disservice, leaving them with half truths, which is a clever term for _lies._
Neutral lands were purchased during ottoman empire. Give examples which lands do jews stoled from Muslims until 47. After 47 Muslims states started a coward war and lost lands after losing the war. The some happened to Germany after www2. Lost 25 percent of his lands to Poland. If you start and lose a war should be aware of outcomes. If Arab countries won the war would killed all Jews and stoled their lands
@@Putins_shirt so what's the problem. At 40th all countries in middle east declared their independence. Pakistan or India stoled lands from each order. UN 47 resolution and international community approved Israel and Palestine independence.
@@Alexdorio-kc9yfSo you mean had Palestinians accepted partition in 47 those living in the part allocated to Israel would have been happy there and there would be no settler actions protected byvthe IDF? Read the diaries of Ben Gurion. It is clear there, zionists were willing to accept anything as that gave them a foot in the ground but they had their eyes on the whole thing.
@@Alexdorio-kc9yf Who said I had a problem? It's the foreign entity that has the problem. Bang bang💥Boom boom💥I wonder what God has in store for them next⁉😆 The UN is not God. It is telling that the very first big decision the imperialist-run UN made was to annex part of the most oil-rich area in the world and humor the Joos by deceiving them into thinking that a bunch of imperialist a$$h0les sitting in The Citadel had the authority to take land from one people and allot it to another. 🤪 But in reality the High Thieves of the UN never had any intention of giving this strategic area to the Jevvs. If Americans are being sent overseas to fight for this land, and 40,000 US soldiers are over there right now, that means the US is fighting for its own asset. It never belonged to the Juze; that's as obvious as daylight. As far back as 1981, the ownership of the land was announced by General Haig, who said lsraeI is "the largest US aircraft carrier in the world that cannot be sunk." Are you still confused about what the entity is and who currently occupies it? 🙃 But the most absurd part is that this foreign entity no more belongs to the Jooz or the US Empire than it does to the Eskimos. It's been Palestine for more than 10,000 years. Writing a silly Яesolution neither changes that fact nor that history. The Juze will never ever know a day of peace or prosperity in Palestine again. This is it. This is the war for which all the battles since 1948 have prepared. After what the foreign entity has done to Gaza, the West Bank, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon and Iran, it will never recover. Even the Saudis, Turks, Algerians, Tunisians, and Jordanians are incensed. It made too many mistakes, too many enemies even for the great US Empire to absorb. The Age of Imperialism is ending. Ever see an Empire fall before? 👀
Knowledge is beautiful no matter how dark ..we MUST always talk about Palestine! I've been waiting for this to happen for only 15 years. Some people it's been decades. Get Your Knowledge. Go Read Books. Ffs
It is lovely to hear Professor Shaw.
Thomas, why not invite a Palestinian for a change? Not only white people need to speak about Palestine.
I am in Amman right now, with a front row seat to the Iranian attack on Israel yesterday. One of my interviews here is with a prominent Palestinian with a history so rich I can’t even begin to describe it here. So stay tuned ;-)
@@saltcubeanalytics.. Thanks for the heads up; I will be looking for it. A living encyclopedia on Israel-Palestine is Lowkey, a Palestinian rapper and activist, living in England. He often appears on George Galloway's "Mother of all Talk Shows". Kevork Almasian is a Syrian-Armenian political scientist living in Berlin with an excellent understanding of the regions problems.
Thomas, you select the best guests, they are all intellectuals, informative, and scholars. thank you
My pleasure!
More and more excellent work, Thomas! 🙏
PRAY for the Gift of Wisdom!
Great interview. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you Thomas Karat for speaking truth to power❤
Most welcome Barry.
Many thanks to Martin Shaw for his clear claim that Israel has known and intended to destroy the Palestinian society and its land. One doesn't kill so many civilians, starve them, and decimate their land and services such as hospitals and schools without full knowledge and thus intention.
Yeah right, they are feeding those animals...
Totally agree!!
@@Drinkingyoursaltytearsallahyou are proving the point. Your hatred certainly won’t set you free…
@@Drinkingyoursaltytearsallahyou and Israel are CRIMINALLY INSANE!
Delusional, Israel pulled out of Gaza and gave them an open border with Egypt, you know what happened? Hamas built a war machine and attacked Israel just like their platform promises, also Egypt had to close the border because Hamas exported terror to Egypt. Its the people who claim to love and support the Palestinians who see them as nothing more than a tool to use against Israel which guarantees Palestinian destruction over and over. Time to rearm right....
Excelent. 😊
Thank you, Thomas! Great interview
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you for inviting Prof. Martin Shaw
Our pleasure!
A wonderful guest - thank you
Thank you, Mr. Karat, your interviews are so important and balanced and thoughtful analysis, and many thanks to Professor Michael Shaw. I wanted to rewatch this again.
The United States and its allies created these wars of horrors against the Palestinians and now Lebanon. Resistance is is a revolutionary act when nothing else works. Now the meeting with China and Brics on October 28th, we wait and learn more.
Thank you both.
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Many thanks!
Shaw's criticism of Israel seems tepid at best which I guess is why he remains part of the UK establishment. He couldn't help himself in ways during this interview to offer some justifications for that "state's" actions when in the whole & given the complete history there just are no justifications.
Well said! So underwhelming.
Couldn’t agree more. October 7th was a massacre in his eyes even though at least a third of those killed were military personnel.
@@JohnHersey-eh4su So the innocent people who died don't matter because one third of those killed were military........Wait, doesn't that mean the innocent Palestinians who were killed don't matter because many were terrorists?
Your world is quite twisted and Palestinians are your tool....
I don't know if anyone saw a huge group of the diplomats at the General Assembly got up and WALKED OUT when netanyahu got to the podium. It was even better then when the assembly laughed in tRump's face!
How many?
Thank you again Thomas! Your whole channel has been shadow banned, otherwise you would rightly have more like 50,000 subs plus. Keep up the great work!
Thank you too!
Another great episode by SCA show. thank you
Glad you enjoyed it
Based on a July 7th article in the Israeli newspaper Haaretz, the "Hannibal Directive" was invoked on Oct. 7th. Who gave the order and how many Israelis were killed by the IDF that day? We know some civilians were killed when an IDF tank fired a shell into a home, because the story was on the news.
The IDF shot hellfire missiles from Apache helicopters at 100 cars and pedestrians fleeing the music festival burning them alive and killing hundreds of people who were burned to a crisp and Israel buried the 100 cars to hide the evidence and refused to allow any independent Inspectors to see them! No babies beheaded and no evidence of rapes! The IDF killed more civillians than Hamas due to the Hanibal Directive!
Thanks
Welcome
A post ww2 zio leader said, " We must discard the husk of antisemitism, but keep the kernel of national socialism. "
Is there anything else we need to know about the zios.?
Love the channel Thomas. Watched everything since Oct 7th. Would love to see a Palestinian on, maybe Ali Abunimah of Electronic Intifada
Am in Amman right now and have an interview scheduled with a prominent Palestinian with a history so rich I can’t even begin to describe it here.
Same
thank you
I disagree with Mr. Shaw on one thing about Hamas knowing this would happen stating or implying the target was to commit atrocities among the civilians, that is NOT TRUE, Hamas was targeting the IDF only, it was other groups that took the civilians. This is a glaring inaccuracy in his argument.
things blurry in the fog of war, we will never know for certain.
Passed the 10.000 subscribers mark... Congratulation to the Channel Thomas!
More scrutiny/shadow banning to be expected?
Call for action, as you call it: Smash the like button People !
+ , if you are here for the first time, push the subscribe button!
And leave a comment because this too helps the referencement.
I could not have said it better Grazialla! Many thanks!
Imagine having your entire people exterminated but the authorities are too busy discussing semantics...
Do not give up
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I am repulsed by Zionism !
Freedom will ( its got to❤!
I don't see how there can be any question as to whether there was ethnic, "cleansing", if Z's will be confronted with the fact that massacres in a locality, are not just products of war, as Z liars pretend. And so, involving acts of deliberation, they must involve the deliberate driving of a population out of that locality.
Why would anyone need further evidence ?
And as acts of such, "cleansing", could not have happened without a few racially motivated massacres along the way, that they happened, must prove that not only did Genocide happen, but the artificial racist majority that resulted, was the means by which elections were won, in an imitation of Democracy, ever since. So thereby blowing the pretence of being a civilised Democracy out of the water, the complicity of Northern hemisphere Governments and their media should add to their prosecution.
And
I’ve never met an English historian or analyst whose first job isn’t to attempt to ‘repackage’ or whitewash British history. So it isn’t quite ethnic cleansing and it isn’t quite a genocide and it isn’t quite a settler colonial project. Absolutely typically English
We US taxpayers are paying for this nightmare. Don’t we have needs here more important than being Netanyahu’s puppet & financier??
Let's shift money from education to feed the poor and house the homeless. Let's shift money from Medicare to Medicade. Let's shift money from defense to solar and wind energy. Let's shut down the UN and sell the property to developers. Let's shutdown all public universities and use the money to end climate change.
It’s hard to believe that US taxpayers are paying for the 2,000-pound bombs that are being dropped on civilian populations.
His definition of genocide is interesting as well as his support for the underdog.
Then he seems to be biased on different perspectives. First he insinuates that hand is comparable to Isis and other terrorist califates but for a historian he seems to truly miss the bigger picture, which is that helps l ballad, Hezbollah, Iran combat those califates and thereof strive to behave in a different fashion, not to mention that Hamas is part of the ICC and therefore purports to adhere to the rules of combats or face the consequences. He should know these basics not to mention the reality of who caused the most damage with tanks and helicopters on the 7th. Then he represents Ukraine as the underdog... Totally oblivious to the fact that NATO is the weight behind it and that the massacre of Ukrainians would have stopped had we supported the peace talks of 2022, when's bojo ran to curtail them... And then he cannot fathom why people find it difficult to vote for someone married to a Zionist who is currently an active vice in the current genocide. Cute but disingenuous.
Palestine population is seven times bigger since 48. This population never dropped once since 48. The definition says eradication of whole or entire population. Do you study something?
@@Alexdorio-kc9yfNo. The words are "whole or in part." Otherwise the Shoah would not be considered a genocide.
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Me neither. Name their maddog PM and ms goes astray...
Is that what's happening?? WTF! SUCH BS! There's a breakfast club review by a AA woman on yt who reaction video with 2 friends was so illuminating.... making black people wake up to the black faces in high places, being gatekeepers & shills for the undemocratic party
Mine too. It appeared a mere 1 sec and then bombed out of the comment section. Izzy state is everywhere.
Yes, that happens more and more and there is nothing I, or any creator, can do about it.
01:04:00 "Even within Israel", the so-called opposition is not about human rights for Palestinians, it is purely about the release of the hostages.
Many palestinians are not arabs, who came to the region later, but the indiginous population, likely inhabiting Palestine since biblical times. They could even be the descendants of the lost Samaritans. It's shameful for the zionists to favor from the beginning a strategy of hostile barging in. There was and still exists actually favorable to the Jews sentiment among the Palestinians. In particular, i recall it expressed in one of the interviews in Rick Steves' dvd program "Holy Land" (only, may be it was within the special features on the dvd). A Palestinian expressed sympathy for the plight of the Jews and support for their return to the land! Sadly, the zionists, it appears, missed on an opportunity to nurture such sentiments, to be respectful to the native population, and ultimately to win their support.
Yes correct. From the very beginning the local population was assisting the Jews. Ironically, the very same Jews who found refuge Arab houses where they were taken in with open arms, considered in their letters back home already then, how to best get rid of their hosts. Very sad indeed.
This is true, thank you Thomas.
Edward Said's book "Orientlism " and other essays and writings.
The philosopher Spinazo's family moved to Amsterdam in the 1600s. It was the only place that would take them in after Spain's removel of jews.
He is one of my favorite philosophers with his writings.
Just posted a comment which...disappeared ?
Did you criticize Israel? You're not alone!
Yes, that seems to happen more and more and there is nothing I, or any creator, can do.
Why wasn't Morris' answer allowed?
Because this is not about Benny Morris. Feel free to watch my interview with Benny though ;-)
42:00 Israel's main enemy is the 4H gang: Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthis and Hannibal. The one the Israelis should fear the most is Hannibal.
Did you criticize Israel? And your comment immediately deleted? You're not alone!
The direction was changed when the Kach concentration camp guards gunned down civilians during the Great March of Return.
42:00 The Israeli army engaged very early in the morning of 7 October. But they mostly engaged with planes, helicopters and not much ground troops. We all know that the Israeli army is awful at infantry fighting (unless it's against civilians), but they have war technology. Other analysts have said that Hamas likely didn't believe that they would get that far, they just kept advancing because there was no Israeli army there. The plan wasn't even to kill civilians, but they got to the kibbutzim, with no resistance except from some armed residents. Also, they didn't even know about the Nova festival, they were going after the military base that was located beyond the festival grounds. Many definitely took the chance to kill civilians, but there were a lot of fighters that were respectful to their captives and didn't kill civilians (though, taking civilians is a crime, and we should also put pressure on Israel to stop violating the human rights of Palestinians, including imprisoning them, basically taking them hostage).
thank you for your thoughts and comments, appreciated.
41:00 I do not agree that Hamas knew that there would be mass civilian casualties, which mainly occurred amongst the Nova music festival goers, because even the organisers of the festival didn't know the venue until Wednesday evening.
Ok, al Qassam exploited the situation, sure, but the venue was between Be'eri and Re'im, two of their main military targets, so what exactly were they supposed to do....
We also don't know how many civilians died due to the Hannibal directive. I doubt that Hamas factored in the Hannibal directive.
No, I think we can safely say that the objective was military, especially if you realse that the kibbutses in the Gaza envelope have a deliberate military purpose as an early warning area.
Hamas did not attack civilians, Israel did! This is really dishonest. They attacked the soldiers who occupy them and had expected to be confronted by the iof, but the toughest army in the world took 6 hours to show up & when they did, THEY killed the majority of their own people. Hamas were not equipped to burn people to the point they couldn’t be identified and they even reduced their numbers of dead people after realising that some of the incinerated bodies were actually Hamas. This take is highly inaccurate and somewhat disingenuous!
Liar
ICJ: pronounced ICJay - not ICGee
So much semantics. Mass murder is mass murder.
All this sounds like an excuse for high numbers of deaths.
Return back to God and Jesus Christ
Repent and return back to God and Jesus Christ america!!
Blind you with interact generation, like the past one was blind you with Hollywood films.
Does the Bible really play a role in ths Israel-Palestine conflict or is only because no European and the US wanted these Jews? The Indeginous Indians in the US can also claim their land and build up a army to remove people from their historical land.
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Feel free to use anything here,
Nevermind the complete ignorance of international case law, and the dolus specialis requirement for an act to be definitively genocidal, that is, acting with a specific intent to cause genocidal harm...
There's plenty of blame that can and should be made against Israel legitimately, but ignorant and/or bad faith arguments such as this are what delegitimizes progressive claims on this topic.
ISRAEL HAS A RIGHT TO BE LIARS
God bless the IDF..
In the meantime the islamists mourn the death of nasserallah, who killed 350,000 syrians.
i can't help but remember what Solzhenitsyn said about the kids that grew up and knew nothing else but the Gulags.
The most adaptable of any age group or persuasion, living their most transformative years in the brutal moral code of the Gulag they behaved like packs of hungry hyenas (paraphrasing).
What is happening in Gaza guarantees that there will be no peace in the region in this century and Israelis are only kicking the violence that will eventually be enforced upon them down the road.
Honestly, the Palestinians have never descended to the "animalistic" level. A UN poll, after 10/7 but before the bombs, found that 90% of Gazans -- all survivors of previous Israeli slaughters -- disapproved of Jamas and wanted it gone. Palestinians seem to have developed a survival strategy if empathic group suppirt. The thinnest of safety nets, stretching around everyone.
What's weird is that it's the Israelis, not the Palestinians, who are peeling off the constraints of civil society. Ex. The mob of solid citizens howling for the grape of MORE Palestinian "detainees". Gangs of thug settlers, looting and shooting.
@@LindaYariger there is no doubt in my mind that the Palestinians are and have been holding the moral high ground in the situation they found themselves in. I’m talking about the common people, not the leaders political or orherwise, not the militants.
The victims are always stronger than the perpetrator of the violence forced upon them, but maybe this is my upbringing talking.
This time though i have the feeling that this is all too much and the complete absence of any sort of justice enforced by international institutions will only make the need of vigilant revenge all the more prevalent.
@@EliasTsakmakis I am sorry, but our belief is that violent revenge is never "necessary.." Our love thru Christ, to You. 🕊
Martin Shaw makes the same mistake as almost all other Western professors/pundits regarding "Israeli civilians." Who are these innocent "civilians"?
1. Would they be the same innocent "civilians" who are required to complete 2 years of mandatory military service?
2. Would they be the same innocent "civilians" who steal Palestinian land and build, upon the remnants of Palestinian life and civilization, these illegal settlements, many of which the State uses as military outposts?
3. Would they be the same military-trained innocent "civilians" who are then armed by the State to perform security for the State in these oh-so-innocent settlements that function as military outposts of the State?
4. Are these same military-trained and armed "civilians" called civilians because they were wearing civilian clothes at the time they were killed? I understand that it is a violation of international law to target military personnel when they are functioning in civilian capacities, but does that mean that military personnel who DOUBLE as civilians can rightly be counted solely as civilians just because they were not wearing uniforms at the time they perished? Nearly one-third of these so-called civilians who were killed on 7 Oct had titles as officers in the lsraeIi military.
And if you refuse to acknowledge the validity of this argument -- that all the adults who live in this _State_ are all virtual military assets -- then that would mean that all those innocent civilians who were killed on 7 Oct were being used as human shields by the State, which amounts to a war crime, because the State approved of the establishment of those settlements in the most dangerous areas of Occupied Palestine, then armed the "civilians" presumably to beat back the savage PaIestinians.
Putting that argument aside for a moment, the fact about 7 Oct, as now exposed by Haaretz, is that lsraeI implemented the Hannibal Directive, and with Apache helicopters, Occupation Forces dropped full rounds of hellfire missiles on the affected settlements, killing the vast majority of those "innocent civilians" themselves. BTW: after the helicopters ran out of missiles they returned to base and reloaded for another round of fire. Meanwhile down below, State tanks were moving in and firing upon houses known to have contained BOTH Hamas fighters and their lsraeIi hostages.
When you choose subjects for your interviews, you should either avoid interviewing such apologists for Israeli crimes, or at the very least challenge their mis- and disinformation. Otherwise you do your audience / followers a great disservice, leaving them with half truths, which is a clever term for _lies._
Neutral lands were purchased during ottoman empire. Give examples which lands do jews stoled from Muslims until 47. After 47 Muslims states started a coward war and lost lands after losing the war. The some happened to Germany after www2. Lost 25 percent of his lands to Poland. If you start and lose a war should be aware of outcomes. If Arab countries won the war would killed all Jews and stoled their lands
Purchased lands and turned them into state? C'mon man!
@@Putins_shirt so what's the problem. At 40th all countries in middle east declared their independence. Pakistan or India stoled lands from each order. UN 47 resolution and international community approved Israel and Palestine independence.
@@Alexdorio-kc9yfSo you mean had Palestinians accepted partition in 47 those living in the part allocated to Israel would have been happy there and there would be no settler actions protected byvthe IDF? Read the diaries of Ben Gurion. It is clear there, zionists were willing to accept anything as that gave them a foot in the ground but they had their eyes on the whole thing.
@@Alexdorio-kc9yf Who said I had a problem? It's the foreign entity that has the problem. Bang bang💥Boom boom💥I wonder what God has in store for them next⁉😆
The UN is not God. It is telling that the very first big decision the imperialist-run UN made was to annex part of the most oil-rich area in the world and humor the Joos by deceiving them into thinking that a bunch of imperialist a$$h0les sitting in The Citadel had the authority to take land from one people and allot it to another. 🤪 But in reality the High Thieves of the UN never had any intention of giving this strategic area to the Jevvs. If Americans are being sent overseas to fight for this land, and 40,000 US soldiers are over there right now, that means the US is fighting for its own asset. It never belonged to the Juze; that's as obvious as daylight. As far back as 1981, the ownership of the land was announced by General Haig, who said lsraeI is "the largest US aircraft carrier in the world that cannot be sunk." Are you still confused about what the entity is and who currently occupies it? 🙃
But the most absurd part is that this foreign entity no more belongs to the Jooz or the US Empire than it does to the Eskimos. It's been Palestine for more than 10,000 years. Writing a silly Яesolution neither changes that fact nor that history. The Juze will never ever know a day of peace or prosperity in Palestine again. This is it. This is the war for which all the battles since 1948 have prepared. After what the foreign entity has done to Gaza, the West Bank, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon and Iran, it will never recover. Even the Saudis, Turks, Algerians, Tunisians, and Jordanians are incensed. It made too many mistakes, too many enemies even for the great US Empire to absorb.
The Age of Imperialism is ending. Ever see an Empire fall before? 👀