The subscriptions to a label or artist is what I like about bandcamp. Every release that they put out and usually they give you some previous releases for joining. A great example of this is Atjazz record company.
damn and i though i was the only one who disliked its ui the flow of feed from menubar sucks the most soundcloud's decision with 123 jkl controls is hella more time-efficient
The worst thing to me on Bandcamp is that if an artist or label decide to take their releases down it will remove them from your web account (but still be on the mobile app) which massively sucks. You also have stuff on your feed on your mobile app that you don't find on the web browser. Also the mobile app hasn't seen an update for a long time and needs new features like "add next to queue" and "save queue as playlist" and stuff like that.
That mailing list tip is class. Great to know even if BC doesn't bite the dust. Also, with the BC cart have you tried using the wishlist instead? I like using it as an initial cart, then a few days later add all the tracks I really want from my wishlist to my main cart and check out. Stops you from losing all the tracks you found and keeps it a bit more organized imo.
Hey Gianni, usually i use wish list for other types of music that i don’t need at the moment but that i like and want to keep track of them. But yea, that could be a safer alternative! Thanks for the tip!
Good stuff. Using bandcamp mostly as an artist for my own music but i haven't really dived into the digging aspect of it yet, will definitively spend some time on this. Do you have any recommendations for 90s labels to check out?
The only reason why the site looks the way it does is probably because it has been developed over many years by different designers without following certain design principles. For example, the use or implementation of a design system (every element has a styling). This is probably why the individual pages look so inconsistent. I study interfacedesign and one course was about improving one of our favourite websites and i choose bandcamp. And everything you mentioned are huge painpoint. My design basically ended up with lots of simularities to beatport, especially the player.
Indeed! As i said it looks like many websites put together and you confirmed that! And so interesting that you brought Bandcamp for your course. It would definitely need someone with taste to put his/her hands on it ahah! Thanks for the comment Agatha!
Great video. I'm an independent artist starting to look at gathering a following and putting my music up for sale -advice given to me to not put all my eggs in one basket with Distrokid. Thanks for the information. I"m seeing this video on May 3, 2024. Seems like Bandcamp is still in existence. Another artist I follow recently had an album release in April on Bandcamp. I'm thinking of signing up with Bandcamp. Please let us posted on Bandcamps' status. BTW, I have subbed here and I'm following you on several platforms. Love your music. Cheers mate!! ✌❤
Is it legal to send emails to your followers outside of bandcamp? I haven't read the small print but if they haven't agreed to that it may not be legal (?)
Good question! Technically when they start following you and they give the email consent it should be only to receive automatic notification from Bandcamp when new releases are out. I don’t know if you can use those contacts to send newsletter. I would say that if in the newsletter you inform people where you got the email contact from and that if they want they can unsubscribe it’s a fair trade off, but usually law is not that permissive and probably it’s not 100% compliant. That being said I hardly believe a follower would report you for keeping him updated.
@@distillednoise I think the only way to do it 100% legally would be to send a message from bandcamp asking people to sign up to a newsletter. Most people probably wouldn't bother but you could incentivise them by offering free downloads or merch giveaways etc to subscribers
Great video. I agree with most part. They have some great features, but perhaps the change in developers has created inconsistency. The concept is awesome and the speed at which they pay the artists is awesome. I hear Itunes etc are still 30-90 days before getting paid depending on "who" you are. Remember this started from 1 person back in 2008? so it has evovled over time, and sometime it's hard to change a core design structure, without just starting from scratch.Much different from a Startup who get 5Million , get a team together and start from scratch.
Great video.. somehow I've just seen it today, haha. First of all.. I LOVE bancamp. In a way that it gives every artist the same opportunity to put out music, to get paid for their art and to grow. I love finding small independent artists with great tracks and be one of maybe three people to own that track. But yeah, you mentioned all these things that are weird and wrong with the platform. I also screenshot my carts, hahaha, was feeling you when you said that. I lost carts when I started the payment and then cancelled it, because I wanted to change or keep digging or whatever... everything was just gone.. The player... eeeww.. Also downloading tracks after you bought them.. things could have made way easier. But yes, all in all we can be very very happy with bandcamp and hopefully they're stepping it up in the future regarding their website and all the things you talked about.
Thanks for your nice comment, glad that I'm not the only one to suffer those downsides of Bandcamp and yes, let's hope with time it will keep improving!
Generally I dont see a host of people buying a cd of instrumental music or downloading instrumental music. Its usually a small percentage of people anyway and particularly in the U.S. My music is on Bandcamp and it may be likeable to a very small percentage of Prog Rock supporters. Short of that...what is the point? If you invest in recording equipment and or pay an engineer to master your stuff it should be because you have the desire to do it....but definitely not having expectations. You have to love music and not expect anything in return. If a few people enjoy your stuff that is enough. Its an art form not a cash register
Dear John, for a lot of people music is also work. I respect your point of view but there are lots of reasons why someone would want to monetize their music. And i think a good platform should help doing that.
Bandcamp has so much potential but they fail so hard on basic concepts of how users want to use the site. In the past few years, they hired a bunch of new employees but we never saw any meaningful improvements to the site. (Yes, I know they just laid off a lot of people due to an acquisition.)
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The subscriptions to a label or artist is what I like about bandcamp. Every release that they put out and usually they give you some previous releases for joining. A great example of this is Atjazz record company.
True! Also a friend of mine who run a samples label does that!
Bandcamp UX/UI designers should massively take note of this vid!!!
Ahah thanks Jon!
damn and i though i was the only one who disliked its ui
the flow of feed from menubar sucks the most
soundcloud's decision with 123 jkl controls is hella more time-efficient
Thank you for your insight in these matters ..
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Great video! I just checked out your channel and I'm subscribed.. I've been wanting to learn how to produce tracks so this is great.
Thank you! Let’s keep in touch then 🫶🏻
@@distillednoise most definitely my bro!!
The worst thing to me on Bandcamp is that if an artist or label decide to take their releases down it will remove them from your web account (but still be on the mobile app) which massively sucks. You also have stuff on your feed on your mobile app that you don't find on the web browser. Also the mobile app hasn't seen an update for a long time and needs new features like "add next to queue" and "save queue as playlist" and stuff like that.
I do like that when an album finishes the music stops. I can then decide what to play next.
That mailing list tip is class. Great to know even if BC doesn't bite the dust.
Also, with the BC cart have you tried using the wishlist instead? I like using it as an initial cart, then a few days later add all the tracks I really want from my wishlist to my main cart and check out. Stops you from losing all the tracks you found and keeps it a bit more organized imo.
Hey Gianni, usually i use wish list for other types of music that i don’t need at the moment but that i like and want to keep track of them. But yea, that could be a safer alternative! Thanks for the tip!
Good stuff. Using bandcamp mostly as an artist for my own music but i haven't really dived into the digging aspect of it yet, will definitively spend some time on this. Do you have any recommendations for 90s labels to check out?
Try to check Alex Neri on Bandcamp :)
“Using Bandcamp as an artist without listening to any other artists on there.” Tell me you’re a narcissist without telling me you’re a narcissist
The only reason why the site looks the way it does is probably because it has been developed over many years by different designers without following certain design principles. For example, the use or implementation of a design system (every element has a styling). This is probably why the individual pages look so inconsistent.
I study interfacedesign and one course was about improving one of our favourite websites and i choose bandcamp. And everything you mentioned are huge painpoint. My design basically ended up with lots of simularities to beatport, especially the player.
Indeed! As i said it looks like many websites put together and you confirmed that! And so interesting that you brought Bandcamp for your course. It would definitely need someone with taste to put his/her hands on it ahah! Thanks for the comment Agatha!
Nice, keep it up! We would love to add your music on our music blog!
Feel free to do it!
Great video! Any tips for some good 90s label re-realeases on Bandcamp?
Try to check Alex Neri or Warp records!
Great video. I'm an independent artist starting to look at gathering a following and putting my music up for sale -advice given to me to not put all my eggs in one basket with Distrokid. Thanks for the information. I"m seeing this video on May 3, 2024. Seems like Bandcamp is still in existence. Another artist I follow recently had an album release in April on Bandcamp. I'm thinking of signing up with Bandcamp. Please let us posted on Bandcamps' status. BTW, I have subbed here and I'm following you on several platforms. Love your music. Cheers mate!! ✌❤
Thank you!! Bandcamp probably won’t disappear so definitely go for it as an option!!
Is it legal to send emails to your followers outside of bandcamp? I haven't read the small print but if they haven't agreed to that it may not be legal (?)
Good question! Technically when they start following you and they give the email consent it should be only to receive automatic notification from Bandcamp when new releases are out. I don’t know if you can use those contacts to send newsletter. I would say that if in the newsletter you inform people where you got the email contact from and that if they want they can unsubscribe it’s a fair trade off, but usually law is not that permissive and probably it’s not 100% compliant. That being said I hardly believe a follower would report you for keeping him updated.
@@distillednoise I think the only way to do it 100% legally would be to send a message from bandcamp asking people to sign up to a newsletter. Most people probably wouldn't bother but you could incentivise them by offering free downloads or merch giveaways etc to subscribers
Definitely! That’s the right way to go!
Great video. I agree with most part. They have some great features, but perhaps the change in developers has created inconsistency. The concept is awesome and the speed at which they pay the artists is awesome. I hear Itunes etc are still 30-90 days before getting paid depending on "who" you are. Remember this started from 1 person back in 2008? so it has evovled over time, and sometime it's hard to change a core design structure, without just starting from scratch.Much different from a Startup who get 5Million , get a team together and start from scratch.
I agree with you! A lot of times problems in a website comes from the core and solving them would be make the website from scratch
Great video.. somehow I've just seen it today, haha.
First of all.. I LOVE bancamp. In a way that it gives every artist the same opportunity to put out music, to get paid for their art and to grow. I love finding small independent artists with great tracks and be one of maybe three people to own that track.
But yeah, you mentioned all these things that are weird and wrong with the platform.
I also screenshot my carts, hahaha, was feeling you when you said that.
I lost carts when I started the payment and then cancelled it, because I wanted to change or keep digging or whatever... everything was just gone..
The player... eeeww..
Also downloading tracks after you bought them.. things could have made way easier.
But yes, all in all we can be very very happy with bandcamp and hopefully they're stepping it up in the future regarding their website and all the things you talked about.
Thanks for your nice comment, glad that I'm not the only one to suffer those downsides of Bandcamp and yes, let's hope with time it will keep improving!
LET ME ORGANISE MY LIBRARY BANDCAMP
also, had issues with the shopping cart when I had releases in different currencies, had to delete the whole cart & start over 😠
This never happened to me. I mean when i pay everything gets converted
Generally I dont see a host of people buying a cd of instrumental music or downloading instrumental music.
Its usually a small percentage of people anyway and particularly in the U.S. My music is on Bandcamp and it may be likeable to a very small percentage of Prog Rock supporters. Short of that...what is the point?
If you invest in recording equipment and or pay an engineer to master your stuff it should be because you have the desire to do it....but definitely not having expectations.
You have to love music and not expect anything in return. If a few people enjoy your stuff that is enough. Its an art form not a cash register
Dear John, for a lot of people music is also work. I respect your point of view but there are lots of reasons why someone would want to monetize their music. And i think a good platform should help doing that.
As a listener I like bandcamp because sometimes it's the only place to listen to full albums. Also, may I ask for the name of the track in outro?
That’s true! That song is an unreleased of mine :)
@@distillednoise I presume You will release it in the future? I will certainly keep an eye on that one
You nailed how it needs to open another page to play through the track, always annoyed me being a quick digger
Totally!
I love Bandcamp, only platform that's fair and good to artists and small labels...
Yes that’s garanteed! Let’s hope it keeps being like that!!
As long as I know Bandcamp the UI has been the same. Either they change it only very cautiously or they don't change it at all. 😄
Indeed! Ahah
Bandcamp has so much potential but they fail so hard on basic concepts of how users want to use the site. In the past few years, they hired a bunch of new employees but we never saw any meaningful improvements to the site. (Yes, I know they just laid off a lot of people due to an acquisition.)
I think they simply don’t listen to users 🥲🤷🏻
Bandcamp needs to have a serious overhaul by someone who actually wants to succeed.I have no idea what the mentality of the current owners is. 🤷
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