I first came across this talk two years ago, and today I still find it as interesting as it was then. It's amazing to see how feelings of pain and pleasure differ through various scenarios and our own personal beliefs. Absolutely fascinating.
TED videos are simply one of the best videos that there are on youtube. A 16 min TED video feels like a 3 min video and I guess, the reason for that is - It teaches me things that I might have never known before and makes me think further.
Paul Bloom is a really great psychologist and offers a very different perspective unlike most scientists. I also read his book with great pleasure because its author was a very famous psychologist from Yale University named Paul Bloom. :) :)
Great talk. I feel like this is one of those things most people know intuitively but haven't pondered enough to have the idea really sink in and incorporated into their worldview.
Has anybody else ever noticed that every single speech, or presentation is followed by a standing ovation of sorts? Some of the speeches and presentations are very good, but not every one of them deserves a standing ovation.
@nikanj And of course, the 'Yale' label plays the role of a legitimizing psychological factor that adds authenticity to what he says, and you experience it as more interesting. Listen to what I have to say, I study at Stanford (actually).
The subject of intellectual perception is amazing. Professor Bloom is absolutely right when he says that we don't buy a piece of art but a story. I would add to this that what we also buy is the uniqueness of something that was created in the past, and the past with its environment cannot be replicated. I mean, when I get carried away by Mozart's music is not just because of its intrinsic beauty, but also because it was created in the past, and past can't go forward. If I listen to some classical contemporary music, even if it's beautiful, it doesn't have the same value as Mozart's since the composer's alive so he or she can create more music. It's not as unique as Mozart, Bach or Schubert. They are dead and they can't create anymore. The same applies to Vermeer or any other painter. A good forger can forge a Vermeer or a Caravaggio, and even if the forgery is as good as Van Meegeren's, he was able to make as many forgeries as he wanted in the 20th century (until he died in 1947). Bottom line, we crave what we don't have so we long for it. Art from the past can be forged, but artists from the past are dead and that's what makes their art so unique.
@BrimHawk to understand why every speech receives a standing ovation, you must understand the context in which the speech is presented. The audience at a TED conference is not your typical demographic off the street, but educated passionate professionals from all different skill sets, that are hand picked to be part of the audience as well, everyone in the audience is there to give a presentation. It also costs 5,000 dollars to attend.
@NatSimTho well, their in a super good mood just to be there, so something thats okay to us sitting at home is alot more enjoyable to them since they are in an elevated mood, and not EVERY speech gets a standing ovation, alot do, because alot of them ARE outstanding, but i feel like giving a standing ovation is not only to say "hey, that was a really good speech" but rather also, "hey, you are very passionate about your field of expertise, i respect that, and i'll show u by standing an clapping
I would totally get that forgery at 03:25. Why? Not because it looks like the real thing, but because for years people thougt it was. The most interesting thing about a painting is its story, i think. And that story is just great.
Excellent! This also exposes different people's personalities. I know hardly anyone who has kept their babies first boots. But if I was there when they threw them in the bin I'd have thought seriously about fishing them back out. Probably with an idea of giving them to the people 20 years later.
I love this video, I've enjoy it and I've watched twice ...but when I've search for Paul Bloom and found Why Do We Like What We Like? I realized something...It's weird but I will now like to give this video 4 stars (not 5)
My two cents and Lacan's take on essentialism: Lacan's object a refers to the object-cause of desire: that which is in the object more than the object and which makes us desire it in the first place. It alludes to the originally lost object (the missing element that would resolve drive and "restore" fulfilment) and, at the same time, functions as an embodiment of lack; as a loss positivised.
This is so crazy, and it really is true. Just like created gems versus the real gemstone. The real gem took hundred to thousands of years to form into the structure it is today from more basic elements, but is chemically indifferent to a created gem. The created gems are cheaper, have better clarity, are more flawless, and yet are less valued to the average person.
If anyone is interested, Yale university has a collection of lectures from Paul Bloom's intro to psychology course on youtube! You can probably find it on the right hand side of this video in the suggestions section! Same humor, same lecturing style!
Is it possible, in the case of the Street Corner violinist, that some people simply didn't have the time to listen to him? It's different taking in music when you have time, as opposed to when you're going somewhere. Or that some people simply refuse to give money to musicians on the street? I know some people resent that kind of performance and don't give money based on principle, not on the quality of the music.
@Darvinisti No.After they found out that the guy cheated the nazi with his forgery, he was given a lesser sentence of forgery a measly one year and compared to the death sentence, it's pretty much an awesome deal. This guy also said that he died a Dutch hero so i don't know how you got your conclusion. lol.
@Danil Eremeev true, although there are a lot of crappy schools out there. i happened to go to pretty decent ones but I'm aware of schools that have poor ciriculums, lazy teachers, or insufficient funding
@jonjescabar Well, the main goal of school in grades 1-10 is to get you ready to be a worker of any kind and be a functioning member of society, not to teach you about world, that's just a side-effect. Though many would claim differently, if you look at the school system, that's how it's set up. Most of the material in this talk are not news to me, but put togheter in the talk it shed some light on a few things.
Those Vermeer weren't forgeries of existing real Vermeers. Han van Meegeren just created his own paintings in the style, tool, technique that Vermeer would've used. When he's doing a side by side comparison of the 'real' vermeer and the 'forged' vermeers, those are actually the exact same painting
Aha, interesting. I saw his book in the store, but did not buy it. Though interesting, it seemed like a puffed-out piece of popular science. So hopefully I'll get the "essence", an important idea with precedent in literature.
@kontekzt If you like intellectually stimulating videos, try typing "mit ocw" after the name of a subject you like in a youtube search... there's a good chance you'll get an entire semester of lectures on the topic from MIT. A good one to start with is "Godel MIT OCW".
@watisthis99 are you attacking me? i don't see where you found your basis to label me those things. my comment was simply pointing out the speaker's tendency to display the human condition as an insatiable consumerism.
I liked the presentation but the title is misleading. How can this talk explain eating ice-cream? Is there some essentialist principle involved there? What about scientists stimulating hedonic centers of the brain via magnetic or electric means thus producing pleasure, what’s that have to do with essentialism? Nothing! This talk is *far* from addressing the "origins" of pleasure.
@natedejuggla Seriously? Because the 'educated, passionate, professionals' learn to applaud standing whilst 'typical' people applaud whilst seated? I do not understand your explanation...
@AutodidacticPhd I didn't miss the point, I simply didn't comment on the point. I commented on what I thought was the LESS obvious point that people seem to be in the habit of mocking people who, despite doing things that obviously reduce credibility, have not forfeited the respect due them as leaders. That's all I'm getting at. And I'm not sure what you think you know about me know from a couple RUclips comments, anyway, but let's just move on w/ our lives.
I came here from his Psychology course on Coursera. The best speech ever. Thank you.
The course is great. I’m enrolled too
same
"It hurts more if you believe that somebody is doing it to you on purpose," knocked me out.
One of the best TED speeches for me
I first came across this talk two years ago, and today I still find it as interesting as it was then. It's amazing to see how feelings of pain and pleasure differ through various scenarios and our own personal beliefs. Absolutely fascinating.
i love it when after watching a ted talk i feel like i just read a book
TED videos are simply one of the best videos that there are on youtube. A 16 min TED video feels like a 3 min video and I guess, the reason for that is - It teaches me things that I might have never known before and makes me think further.
Paul Bloom is a really great psychologist and offers a very different perspective unlike most scientists. I also read his book with great pleasure because its author was a very famous psychologist from Yale University named Paul Bloom. :) :)
Paul Bloom is fantastic, he has an intro to psychology series of lectures from Yale, online. I'd definitely recommend them.
One of the best TED talks in a while. Funny in the beginning too.
Great talk. I feel like this is one of those things most people know intuitively but haven't pondered enough to have the idea really sink in and incorporated into their worldview.
The best research I've ever come across. Thank you
Perfect
Has anybody else ever noticed that every single speech, or presentation is followed by a standing ovation of sorts?
Some of the speeches and presentations are very good, but not every one of them deserves a standing ovation.
@nikanj And of course, the 'Yale' label plays the role of a legitimizing psychological factor that adds authenticity to what he says, and you experience it as more interesting. Listen to what I have to say, I study at Stanford (actually).
The subject of intellectual perception is amazing. Professor Bloom is absolutely right when he says that we don't buy a piece of art but a story. I would add to this that what we also buy is the uniqueness of something that was created in the past, and the past with its environment cannot be replicated. I mean, when I get carried away by Mozart's music is not just because of its intrinsic beauty, but also because it was created in the past, and past can't go forward. If I listen to some classical contemporary music, even if it's beautiful, it doesn't have the same value as Mozart's since the composer's alive so he or she can create more music. It's not as unique as Mozart, Bach or Schubert. They are dead and they can't create anymore. The same applies to Vermeer or any other painter. A good forger can forge a Vermeer or a Caravaggio, and even if the forgery is as good as Van Meegeren's, he was able to make as many forgeries as he wanted in the 20th century (until he died in 1947). Bottom line, we crave what we don't have so we long for it. Art from the past can be forged, but artists from the past are dead and that's what makes their art so unique.
This is why I watch TED Talks, thanks for reminding me.
I watched a whole semester of his psychology class, on the Yalecourses channel, awhile back. He is really fun to listen to.
@BrimHawk to understand why every speech receives a standing ovation, you must understand the context in which the speech is presented. The audience at a TED conference is not your typical demographic off the street, but educated passionate professionals from all different skill sets, that are hand picked to be part of the audience as well, everyone in the audience is there to give a presentation. It also costs 5,000 dollars to attend.
Wow, great ted!
@NatSimTho well, their in a super good mood just to be there, so something thats okay to us sitting at home is alot more enjoyable to them since they are in an elevated mood, and not EVERY speech gets a standing ovation, alot do, because alot of them ARE outstanding, but i feel like giving a standing ovation is not only to say "hey, that was a really good speech" but rather also, "hey, you are very passionate about your field of expertise, i respect that, and i'll show u by standing an clapping
Very good speech.
I learned a lot, once again.
I would totally get that forgery at 03:25. Why? Not because it looks like the real thing, but because for years people thougt it was. The most interesting thing about a painting is its story, i think. And that story is just great.
After a long period of boring (in my opinion) uploads you have delivered 3 wonderful Ted talks. Thank you very much :)
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I like how this talk could be titled the origins of pleasure or the pleasure of origins and both would make sense
Haha absolutely
Brilliant
Wooo Ted Talk is being awesome again recently!
this is why I watch TED, brilliant!
@googoo120 me too, i really got involved in this one as well, and unlike other TED videos i've watched, the time really flew by during this one.
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Excellent! This also exposes different people's personalities. I know hardly anyone who has kept their babies first boots. But if I was there when they threw them in the bin I'd have thought seriously about fishing them back out. Probably with an idea of giving them to the people 20 years later.
I wanna hug this guy
I love this video, I've enjoy it and I've watched twice ...but when I've search for Paul Bloom and found Why Do We Like What We Like? I realized something...It's weird but I will now like to give this video 4 stars (not 5)
Amazing
Great TED Talk
Shows just how Shallow people Really are ..
My two cents and Lacan's take on essentialism: Lacan's object a refers to the object-cause of desire: that which is in the object more than the object and which makes us desire it in the first place. It alludes to the originally lost object (the missing element that would resolve drive and "restore" fulfilment) and, at the same time, functions as an embodiment of lack; as a loss positivised.
Great perspective of our programmed response.
This is so crazy, and it really is true. Just like created gems versus the real gemstone. The real gem took hundred to thousands of years to form into the structure it is today from more basic elements, but is chemically indifferent to a created gem. The created gems are cheaper, have better clarity, are more flawless, and yet are less valued to the average person.
If anyone is interested, Yale university has a collection of lectures from Paul Bloom's intro to psychology course on youtube! You can probably find it on the right hand side of this video in the suggestions section! Same humor, same lecturing style!
Great
absolutely brilliant
Wow, great speech. TED is back!
Epic! Can I please go back to Yale now?
finally a good psychology talk
Bravo...Wow...well done TED
Summary: the effects of pleasure and pain depends on our preconcieved beliefs than the actual pleasure or pain itself!
One sentence sums it all up. Well said mate
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wow! what a speech!
"All that we are is the result of what we have thought: it is founded on our thoughts, it is made up of our thoughts." - The Dhammapada.
I really enjoyed this one. Thanks
this was cool.
Is it possible, in the case of the Street Corner violinist, that some people simply didn't have the time to listen to him? It's different taking in music when you have time, as opposed to when you're going somewhere. Or that some people simply refuse to give money to musicians on the street? I know some people resent that kind of performance and don't give money based on principle, not on the quality of the music.
Same talk as at the RSA, but still execellent
Good Stuff!!
Excellent speech:)
@Darvinisti No.After they found out that the guy cheated the nazi with his forgery, he was given a lesser sentence of forgery a measly one year and compared to the death sentence, it's pretty much an awesome deal. This guy also said that he died a Dutch hero so i don't know how you got your conclusion. lol.
I am going to have to look up john milton!
Wonderful!!
The mind is its own place itself, it can make a heaven of hell and a hell of heaven. Fantabulous!
wow, great talk!
Paul Bloom for pres
@Danil Eremeev true, although there are a lot of crappy schools out there. i happened to go to pretty decent ones but I'm aware of schools that have poor ciriculums, lazy teachers, or insufficient funding
Yay ! Paul Bloooom ...
@jonjescabar Well, the main goal of school in grades 1-10 is to get you ready to be a worker of any kind and be a functioning member of society, not to teach you about world, that's just a side-effect. Though many would claim differently, if you look at the school system, that's how it's set up.
Most of the material in this talk are not news to me, but put togheter in the talk it shed some light on a few things.
6:20 OMG that's me on the left!
this is why i'm a psych major :)
I enjoyed that
Those Vermeer weren't forgeries of existing real Vermeers. Han van Meegeren just created his own paintings in the style, tool, technique that Vermeer would've used. When he's doing a side by side comparison of the 'real' vermeer and the 'forged' vermeers, those are actually the exact same painting
They weren;t even close to real Vermeers actually, technique is lacking and they're very flat and not as well rendered
very good!
This guy has a cool lecture series from yale on youtube
this was great
Very interesting!
Brilliant!!!!
What about pet dogs that are cloned? Is the clone inferior to the original according to the owner?
Joshua Bell story awesome ).
Aha, interesting. I saw his book in the store, but did not buy it. Though interesting, it seemed like a puffed-out piece of popular science. So hopefully I'll get the "essence", an important idea with precedent in literature.
@IWantSoundKnowledge Its already great quality. Any other video this would be HD. lol
very interesting
Essentialism @ 4:05
The example of violinist doesn't hold water as the high-heels or those who attend the black-tie event simply won't take the metro in the first place.
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Wow! Freakin awesome
placebo effect
@ryanexsus
Thank you for pointing that out.
i'm listening, veeery carefully
I've watched this somewhere before...
The best example of irony I've ever heard of! LOL! For the first time he discovered that there was evil in this world, lol!
the guy from open Yale
What would Dr. Bloom say about plastic surgery?
@kontekzt If you like intellectually stimulating videos, try typing "mit ocw" after the name of a subject you like in a youtube search... there's a good chance you'll get an entire semester of lectures on the topic from MIT. A good one to start with is "Godel MIT OCW".
@watisthis99 are you attacking me? i don't see where you found your basis to label me those things. my comment was simply pointing out the speaker's tendency to display the human condition as an insatiable consumerism.
I went to some good schools so the rest is just continuing education. It's sad that there are so many poor schools.
He should be invited more often.
I liked the presentation but the title is misleading. How can this talk explain eating ice-cream? Is there some essentialist principle involved there? What about scientists stimulating hedonic centers of the brain via magnetic or electric means thus producing pleasure, what’s that have to do with essentialism? Nothing! This talk is *far* from addressing the "origins" of pleasure.
To give more value to the speaker since you KNOW its better?
@natedejuggla Seriously? Because the 'educated, passionate, professionals' learn to applaud standing whilst 'typical' people applaud whilst seated? I do not understand your explanation...
@Charles33333 Oh, you're right. Thanks.
@fanosth maybe you havent read enough yourself? As for sharing their ideologies yes i do, i'm happy to debate them as well..if you want to.
i cant tell because of the 304 view thing but i bet this is way more viewed then the others just cuz the title
@rebechocc but how would your heart register what joy or pain is?
@AutodidacticPhd
I didn't miss the point, I simply didn't comment on the point. I commented on what I thought was the LESS obvious point that people seem to be in the habit of mocking people who, despite doing things that obviously reduce credibility, have not forfeited the respect due them as leaders. That's all I'm getting at.
And I'm not sure what you think you know about me know from a couple RUclips comments, anyway, but let's just move on w/ our lives.