I had my expectations low, but to be honest, this was a much better one than last year's. Sure, it doesn't really have much in terms of games, but we were told that upfront, unlike last time which was all about crushed dreams. And instead we got the announcement of Digimon Seekers, a really interesting looking web novel as well as a cool new Digimon.
True but I really wish they would support the games better they always seem to get the short stick I mean atleast a trailer for the next story game by now.
@@ericschauer5950 I agree we should've at least gotten a teaser for the next story game, unless it's not actually even coming this year... maybe its coming next year. You've got to remember too that these franchises don't really make money off the games or at least not as much money as they get off the cards and anime. Still, they probably should have pulled a Nintendo and done a teaser like they did for breath of the wild 2 five years in advance
The Con was pretty much what I expected what it was going to be looking at the schedule. Sincerely, for me, just the concert segments made it worth it, but if you're a english dub only boy, I don't think you can share the feeling. And here's the thing about the Con: It's not necessarily supposed to be a news event, but a community driven one. It is, indeed, a Digimon _Con_ and not a Digimon Direct. For that we have the DigiNavi, which happen from time to time, at multiple points of the year. This kind of interview is the something you'd usually see at a con. I do think last year's was more interesting since it had people from the actual production team talking about the behind the scenes, and I wouldn't have it be right at the beginning either, but you can't blame them for having this kind of content. Right now what the Con is missing the most, in my opinion, is the social aspect this kind of event usually have. And they can't fully replicate that with an online-only approach.
Hey Douglas! You bring up a good point by distinguishing between English watchers and sub watchers.. it's a global event but we're only seeing interviews from the Japanese side. I could see myself being very interested if there was an interview with Steve Blum or something for how he went about directing Tamers in English. In that regard, I feel like the side of the fandom that's more familiar or nostalgic towards the dub are missing out on the con aspect of Digimoncon. And at that point, all we have left is news. I'm familiar with both dub and sub, but admittedly I didn't get into the sub side of things until much later so I don't have the same nostalgia there. Thinking about it from the perspective of my Steve Blum example, I could easily see how this event would be more enjoyable for the Japanese audience.
The dubs in my country are usually closer to the original, so it was pretty easy for me to migrate to the subs. Overall I think content based the japanese version should take precedence over the others because it's not only the source material, but also the most recognizable version. It'd be cool to VAs from other dubs in the event though. People often say stuff like "Global" or the "West" but a lot of them forget that thoses aren't just the States. They're going out of their way to give english subs to a mainly japanese event, thing no other language is getting, and they still saying they don't care. It's just like when they were demanding a dub for Survive like it's the bare minimum. When I see this kind of behavior I am just left here thinking that these people are not only spoiled, but they deserve less.
On one hand yeah it didn't show much. But on the other hand it was pre-recorded and they had a schedule telling you exactly what was gonna be shown and when, besides the special announcement of Digimon Seekers. You have to remember Digimon has never primarily been about the video games. The pet raising devices, merch, etc. have always been the main focus.
I only watched the 25th Anniversary Project segments. My friends and I were baffled and couldn’t figure out what it was. I took away that they’re releasing a novel to coincide with their Vital Bracelet. They’re making lore for their fit bit. Also super upset that their comic/manga contest is Japan only, I would have loved to come up with something.
i agree about the manga contest. The moment i knew bout it months ago, i started drafting multiple one-shots manga. Making new setting, concept and whole storyline... i was excited about the contest detail that will be announced in the con. Only to know that it's limited to Japan only. Though I understand that it's difficult for them to manage the manga serialization if the winner is living outside of Japan. But at least inform about the stipulation early when they released the news months ago...
I enjoyed the Digimon con. From the time slots we were given, I wasn't expecting them to announce a new game, as that was kept pretty short. Maybe they are in the works of making a new game, but they don't have enough to show us. So, while I'd like to hear about more games, I'd rather wait and see what they've got later. As for the rest of the con, I liked it. I like that they are paying attention to all of the different parts of the franchise and giving them their time in the spotlight. I'm happy they didn't do a Q and A. From what I remember last year, people were asking questions that seemed way too complicated to answer.
thanks Ed for covering that Digimon"con". Its really sad why they dont see that its the best time to rise to greatness but they still not really take it.
Last year's digimon con was the same way where they really didn't announce anything and it is more of what they think a celebration is. So going into it for news you will obviously be disappointed because that is not the intention of it if it isn't from the toy side of things.
From the toy side of things we got a band that attaches to the old vb instead of an actual new vb model. We also got no new figures. I'm still hoping for the day that the Digivolving Spirits line returns. At this point I don't think we should expect news from Any of the pillars of Digimon from Digimoncon.
@@mysticdigital5936 Yeah I'd rather just tell myself not to expect Anything. I don't want to get my hopes up for new figures or a new vb and then end up getting tshirts.
The sad truth is that Bandai Namco doesn't care about the Digimon IP too much, nor the western fanbase. Digimon doesn't bring in the numbers so they put no effort into it.
@@GymLeaderEd I cant believe that! i thought i dint have ENOUGH dialogue compared to other digimon games. I enjoyed the story though, and i just cant believe anyone would say that!
@@UBMadaraKN i watched and lp where half the time the dude was complaining about the characters talking so much like if a case didnt involve a battle and was there for character development it was boring
I can understand the lack of a Q&A in this year's con for games. As much as I liked the behind the scenes stuff from it, a lot of it last year were saying no to ports and remakes and people didn't really like that section from what I remember. More than likely, they don't really have any news to share about video game stuff so may as well focus on advertising Digimon World Next 0rder to people, and I could see them being a bit nervous about saying anything too early after the whole debacle with Survive.
I get what you're saying Ed- especially at the international market. I guess they've been busy with new titles and maybe didn't have much to show. Better show something good then do a Pokemon and have everyone doubting it. I think the main thing is that they are doubling down on their origins. The Vital bracelet, a new novel, the TCG doing really well. I'm pretty sure they know we have a plethora of western game shows and channels for them to announce video game elements on too so that's possibly why this was a more Japan focused event.
It was not disappointing at all if you're a rational human being. Nowhere on the schedule did they say they were announcing a new game. Digimon Con was not advertised as a news event, so if you went in wanting that then it's your own expectations that failed you. Digimon Con was an event full of heart and charm. Just because the specific thing tou wanted wasn't there doesnt mean it was bad. There was a ton of news about various aspects of the franchise and several once-in-a-lifetime segments.
"various aspects of the franchise" If you mean the VB then yeah, the thing is its marketed to all Digimon fans, and they did say they were announcing the 25th anniversary project so yes people were expecting news. The issue isnt Digimon Con its that Bandai Namco in general doesn't give Digimon fans anything, we waited 5 years for Survive to come out and that game was meant to hold us over for the next Story game, and we havent had a new Story game since 2017. They said last year they weren't ready to show us or tell us much about the 02 movie and they still haven't told us anything, people hold hope for Digimon Con because they are radio silent almost all year so when they announce this event then yeah we should get something
I can't see how Digimon can appeal to Pokemon fans, even with similarities they're not the same, I understand the heavy Japan focus since its tradition that japanese games focus heavily on their national market since its part of their game philosophy to appeal to their own, a lot of devs have said they acknowledge the western fans, but they don't intend to change their philosophies to appeal to us, thats kinda a double edge sword since they take it too far in the marketing aspect, like ok in Japan its easier to sell out extra material 'n all, but mixing it in a global event is bad for pr imo, it will only make the non japanese fans angry with all the content n material they can't have, unless importing it, you don't attack your audience in any way if you want to maintain them, ATLUS do it a lot as well, I don't think they should change their games to appeal to global standard, but they should make accessible for western fans to have as much material as the japanese fans, even if is in small scale to avoid any possible flop due cultural reasons, I mean Pokemon somehow managed to get merchandise worldwide while still having lots of Japan only content, but I'm sure everyone would enjoy to have the same treatment Japan has with those extra appeals
Yeah, I think you were putting way too much expectation on what this was. Even after the fact that they put out their schedule online to let everyone know what they were going to show, you even made a video on that schedule. The segments were all for Digimon fans, not just video game fans, if you took a look at the live chat you'd see people from all over getting hyped over each segment. The interviews, the live music and even the tcg matches! It didn't have anything you wanted to see, so it's fair to say you were disappointed, but as a Digimon fan overall, I was not. I'm happy to see it branch out and not get relegated to just video games. The convention aspect was meant to bring ALL fans together, not just one type.
My opinion: this is digimon con, not digimon VIDEO game con. Yea they should have had more info but what they went though was perfectly fine :) just my opinion.
Its a bummer they didn't talk much about the games or show, but I feel like Digimon Con isn't for like news specifically, it's just like an event to celebrate Digimon more or less And up front they did show the schedule that pretty much said no new game and anime info
i agree based on what other similar IP are doing theres alot of low hanging fruit they could easily capitalize on like making a TCG video game (the old digimon tcg was AMAZING) pumping out more games that were like Dusk and dawn im surprised they havent made a Digimon Tamer game that works with some form of a Vital bracelet digivice thing similar to the Pokeball from the lets go titles.
This problem isn't limited to digimon, events/announcements in general when it comes to Japan hosted events are usually either lackluster or extremely stretched out to oblivion. They're the master of stall, filler and merch shilling. It's unfortunate but that's the reason I honestly stopped watching any JP livestream. Also the Digimon TCG is pretty dope, like surprisingly one of the best and well structured game that's both easy to start but hard to master. Also the art is amazing, probably one of the unique part is almost every card looks well made and not really half-assed. But I agree, highlights of the match would've been better combined with actual announcements on cards or w/e important announcement it could have.
They do… just not in the way they should. They’re really invested in the Vital Bracelet right now. And the card game. It’s gonna be awhile before we get another game… I think the Survivors game fiasco may have made them weary
I honestly just want to know when or even IF the Vital bracelet is coming to Australia. I've been waiting for ages to get my hands on one but it seems like it's never gonna come here, and importing is usually super expensive :((
It's just sad that Digimon has lost its charm and popularity nowadays. The Digimon franchise is still there, but what are they doing to it. We haven't heard anything about Digimon Adventure 02: The Beginning film, Digimon Adventure (2020) dub, or any brand new Digimon videogames either. I feel like Digimon is losing steam pretty fast. They need to do something to the Digimon franchise or let it fade away.
Perhaps they kept quiet on purpose so as not to be cannibalized because the next order will be released soon. Also they didn't say anything about next order until survive came out.
I understand why it felt disappointing, but I feel they aren't going to announce anything unless they know it's at a stage they can at this point. Especially after what happened with Survive and the massive delays. I feel people were so pushy about Survive despite being told the little info we had, and when it finally came, people ragged on it. Sure, you disappoint people in not announcing anything, but you also won't give anyone's hopes up if you don't promise anything either. Regardless, I feel this year's Digicon was better than last years. Lots of merchandise and cards stuff. People can say what they want about the interviews with VAs and stuff, but I feel it's important since the animes make up a good chunk of digimon.
I mean its kind of the problem with a long-running series hitting those ruts and trying to do stuff to stay popular. I may not really follow Digimon that often anymore these days, but gonna be honest, due to how Survive came off, i think it would of been better if they didnt announce it so early on and had things more polished out, preferably focus on getting the combat systems in place, THEN have the visual novel portions done after which they could of probably did the announcement then, where it would of not been much work to do then, with just artwork, VAs, storytelling and so on. Doesn`t help that Digimon on the V.G. side of things has always dominantly followed a `monster raising` focus, even the ones that do not have an actual farm still had it in the form of affection and of course evolving thru multiple stages of evolution, more on a gameplay side element instead of a story-driven one. So Survive being LITERALLY a Digimon-version of a Super Robot Taisen game, but watered down, in terms of structure on a number of ends didnt really help either, even before you include the delay problems. If they have to push any games or material, i hope they instead focus on much smaller projects that do not require extensive development and focus on its core more then trying to do any big amazing wow-zer projects...maybe take a page out of the older era Digimon games (like the worlds series), go with a stand-alone type stories, could blend well with genres that have become popular... Since i think many would get behind a Digimon title that focuses on a Rogue-like style which Digimon world 2 sort-of did with dungeon crawling, maybe a budget title that could focus on the TCG if they want a easy way for some people to get interested in that, sort of like what they also did back in the day also for another PS1`ish era game. Never the less, not announcing anything is a good idea, but it can of course have the adverse effect to make one think its a dying franchise if they keep celebrating it but not having anything new out to keep promoting it. Hence how i feel that the Dot Hack Franchise is getting dragged thru the mud with them promoting it via merchandise but anything media wise has not seen anything new besides maybe that G.U. collection bundle...The fun of a problematic multi-layer standard i guess in that regard...
Whelp..i appreciate you telling us what it was.was hopong for new Game announcements...i don't GAF about a graphic novel or vital bracelet...i want a Game! Lol
That was a fun play vb and chill live stream they did yesterday but holy cow digicon sure is late. Its way past when they said it would stream. Hopefully they go live soon but even if i have to wait some more it'll be worth it when they announce cyberslueth 3 and ps1 digimon world remastered anthology for switch.
What a pity, so much potential that they aren't using. I'm glad tcg and the bracelets are doing well even if I'm not into those. People like them and it's good for the franchise but I wish they would see how much more they could achieve in other media. Maybe they just want a low risk more careful approach and that's not necessarily bad, I would prefer we don't get another situation like survive (love the game, but we all know by now all the problems with development it had and how that must have hurt profits) but not even some future plans or Q&A? I wouldn't expect games to be their main focus as a franchise (although with monster taming games being so popular that's honestly a wasted opportunity) but this is far to little.
Comon dude people will probably compalin abour re-skin uses for a model. Also some digimon game actually uses natural carrying x-antibody like dorumon, and fanbeemon.
Pokemon has been consistently dropping the ball since SwSh and Digimon can't take the hint, impressive how after all the critics last year thing didn't improve at all -.-
You are absolutely correct. The whole event was a big mess with not a whole lot of information. I guess Seekers is cool if you're into webnovels, but as someone who only cares about the anime and games, it's an easy pass. The absolute state of Digimon.
Seekers would've been sick if it was a game, novel, anime, vital bracelet expansion, tcg series, etc like its a cool concept but they should've really expanded its reach to hit all Digimon fans imo
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Like i don't think not having digimon game this year was a bad think yeah they say have multiple project but don't take it like the project will coming soon. Also digimon don't focus on game first, it was a toy and anime first, that's make game was a spinoff of it. That why you don't need expect game or trailer like Nintendo direct for new game in that kind of event because they are diffrent company bandai was toy company not a game. Personally digimon con this year not that worst than i think, like yeah it's suck not having digimon game this year but i feel they can take some rest and learn from digimon survive.
My issue with the con is that its marketed to all Digimon fans but the vast majority of the con was spent on the VB which aren't even readily available in the west. I love the TCG but even then I don't care to see people play with off meta decks, as an anime and game fan I felt let down, my only thought on why we didn't get any new game is they don't wanna take away from the release period for Next Order and will wait till after, but if thats the case why not postpone Digimon Con
bandai japan has been ignoring the rest of the world for quite a long time. it honestly feels masochistic to support digimon and bandai as a whole. there is bandai US, but it really feels like they don't receive enough resources or respect from their parent company since they keep having to release products that were already produced in japan, leading to situations like the vital hero being announced the same day as the vital brace BE. so the sad truth is that bandai probably wont branch out because they either don't believe in the international market or their not big enough to take it on. and honestly, i would say they're not "good" enough with their constant oversights
Cycling between a Story and a virtual pet sim (World) game every 2 years, giving each game a total of 4 years development time, would be a great way to go. It'd keep Digimon relevant and appease most of the fans of the genre. They also really need an online version of TCG because it's good enough to get a decent audience but it needs that ease of access and exposure. In fact, with every new game release they should tie a code for a special card in the online version of the game, creating a little digimon ecosystem that rewards you for buying all their products. It's consumerism 101 and idk why they're sleeping on it
there is a game similar to pokemon that is based on brazilian culture and it is brazilian it is called kaardik. there is an alpha scheduled for July or June and an older one
I said this in the livestream and ill repeat myself here. Digimon ABSOLUTELY could and should be a pokemon competitor, even more so than it was in the 90s, if Bandai actually gave enough of a shit about the IP and brand. It fills a more mature niche desperately craved in the pokemon (and monster taming in general) community and Bandai refuses to strike the iron while its hot.
dude give a break in the end of the day digimon was toy and anime first and game second so if you want a animation studio make a game you need to wait and see.
A bit funny how it seems Digimon’s strength is also it’s weakness with Digimon Con. Digimon has survived all these years by existing in a variety of mediums and genres. But when it’s all gathered for a single presentation, parts of it wind up losing our interest because it’s not the part we care about.
What a shame, I wanted to get into Digimon games but the only game that got my interest was Cyber Sleuth Complete Edition. Maybe we'll get a new game after Survive?
Shame it wasn't better for you, and I don't have an opinion because... Well I didn't watch it myself. But this is why I follow the advice of SuperDerek and hype responsibly. Just lower my expectations and just watch. It makes watching any form of Direct much more enjoyable! Although I might have to cover the nearby chat... From the sound of it though with Digimon here, I would have been disappointed with the lack of gaming news. Heard some good things about the TCG though!
I'll be honest I had really low expectations for the games at digicon but I was still disappointed in the content, I mean it was just tips for next order for only 10 minutes and the same trailer.
Tha sad truth is that Bandai does not believe in Digimon, i think they are probably afraid to go to hard on Digimon because they migth believe Pokemon took all the space the market had for this kind of content. Its a shame that they dont realize they do not have to compete with Pokemon, Digimon is its own thing and could perfectly coexist as being Pokemom more mature sibling. Oh, well, maybe one day... Until them i guess i have to be happy with the Next Order port, at least the game is new to me so its gonna be fun to play it for the first time.
Four hours was way too long. It didn't feel like they really had content for that time. Sure they had lots of songs but I feel like that was just padding. They could have easily made a Nintendo Direct type video and have it be 30 minutes and that probably would have been enough time to cover anything important.
I wish I won the lottery and bought this franchise from them. Whoever is running things sucks. The advertisement. The writers. They need a new idea guy lol
Idk wtf happened to Digimon. These idiots just have to make a digimon world game but just let you create your own character. Jeez am I so sick of Japanese games forcing me to play pathetic MC’s. That’s partially why fire emblem engage is getting such a lukewarm reception across the board. They should make world a game for all Players and then make other digimon games character and story focused. Digimon should not be a hard IP to get into. It’s so ridiculous. For all the awful Pokémon games that come out (sword and shield, scarlet and violet,etc) they still have a decent amount of entry points. Mystery Dungeon, Let’s Go, Legends Arceus. Digimon is lacking in so many ways that it’s embarrassing. I don’t understand why Digimon can’t get the Tales of Arise treatment.
Dude tale of arise have there own studio "team wolf/bandai namco tales studio" went digimon must get permission to bandai namco to uses there studio. That the same as all bandai anime game like dragonball, one piece, digimon hack even my hero academy need get permission to bandai namco to make anime video game.
The con was trash for me sadly. They touch upon stuff that I didnt even care about. I wanted Video game reveals or remake news and got absolutely nothing. Its sad that bandai doesnt care about the IP or making games for DIGIMON. maybe next year they’ll announce a game. Seeker project could have been a game idea instead of a novel. smh
Digimon acts like they're a big deal having the audacity to do conventions without anything to showcase. garbage franchise. they're focusing too much on Japanese market.
I had my expectations low, but to be honest, this was a much better one than last year's. Sure, it doesn't really have much in terms of games, but we were told that upfront, unlike last time which was all about crushed dreams. And instead we got the announcement of Digimon Seekers, a really interesting looking web novel as well as a cool new Digimon.
True but I really wish they would support the games better they always seem to get the short stick I mean atleast a trailer for the next story game by now.
@@ericschauer5950 I agree we should've at least gotten a teaser for the next story game, unless it's not actually even coming this year... maybe its coming next year. You've got to remember too that these franchises don't really make money off the games or at least not as much money as they get off the cards and anime. Still, they probably should have pulled a Nintendo and done a teaser like they did for breath of the wild 2 five years in advance
The Con was pretty much what I expected what it was going to be looking at the schedule. Sincerely, for me, just the concert segments made it worth it, but if you're a english dub only boy, I don't think you can share the feeling.
And here's the thing about the Con: It's not necessarily supposed to be a news event, but a community driven one. It is, indeed, a Digimon _Con_ and not a Digimon Direct. For that we have the DigiNavi, which happen from time to time, at multiple points of the year.
This kind of interview is the something you'd usually see at a con. I do think last year's was more interesting since it had people from the actual production team talking about the behind the scenes, and I wouldn't have it be right at the beginning either, but you can't blame them for having this kind of content.
Right now what the Con is missing the most, in my opinion, is the social aspect this kind of event usually have. And they can't fully replicate that with an online-only approach.
Hey Douglas!
You bring up a good point by distinguishing between English watchers and sub watchers.. it's a global event but we're only seeing interviews from the Japanese side. I could see myself being very interested if there was an interview with Steve Blum or something for how he went about directing Tamers in English. In that regard, I feel like the side of the fandom that's more familiar or nostalgic towards the dub are missing out on the con aspect of Digimoncon. And at that point, all we have left is news.
I'm familiar with both dub and sub, but admittedly I didn't get into the sub side of things until much later so I don't have the same nostalgia there. Thinking about it from the perspective of my Steve Blum example, I could easily see how this event would be more enjoyable for the Japanese audience.
The dubs in my country are usually closer to the original, so it was pretty easy for me to migrate to the subs.
Overall I think content based the japanese version should take precedence over the others because it's not only the source material, but also the most recognizable version. It'd be cool to VAs from other dubs in the event though.
People often say stuff like "Global" or the "West" but a lot of them forget that thoses aren't just the States. They're going out of their way to give english subs to a mainly japanese event, thing no other language is getting, and they still saying they don't care.
It's just like when they were demanding a dub for Survive like it's the bare minimum. When I see this kind of behavior I am just left here thinking that these people are not only spoiled, but they deserve less.
On one hand yeah it didn't show much. But on the other hand it was pre-recorded and they had a schedule telling you exactly what was gonna be shown and when, besides the special announcement of Digimon Seekers. You have to remember Digimon has never primarily been about the video games. The pet raising devices, merch, etc. have always been the main focus.
I brought these points up in the video loll. 😁
I only watched the 25th Anniversary Project segments. My friends and I were baffled and couldn’t figure out what it was. I took away that they’re releasing a novel to coincide with their Vital Bracelet. They’re making lore for their fit bit.
Also super upset that their comic/manga contest is Japan only, I would have loved to come up with something.
i agree about the manga contest. The moment i knew bout it months ago, i started drafting multiple one-shots manga. Making new setting, concept and whole storyline... i was excited about the contest detail that will be announced in the con. Only to know that it's limited to Japan only. Though I understand that it's difficult for them to manage the manga serialization if the winner is living outside of Japan. But at least inform about the stipulation early when they released the news months ago...
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I enjoyed the Digimon con. From the time slots we were given, I wasn't expecting them to announce a new game, as that was kept pretty short. Maybe they are in the works of making a new game, but they don't have enough to show us. So, while I'd like to hear about more games, I'd rather wait and see what they've got later. As for the rest of the con, I liked it. I like that they are paying attention to all of the different parts of the franchise and giving them their time in the spotlight.
I'm happy they didn't do a Q and A. From what I remember last year, people were asking questions that seemed way too complicated to answer.
I can see why as a lot of the answers given were non answers and legal stuff got in the way so it made sense to cut that segment.
thanks Ed for covering that Digimon"con". Its really sad why they dont see that its the best time to rise to greatness but they still not really take it.
It wss a great con.
Last year's digimon con was the same way where they really didn't announce anything and it is more of what they think a celebration is. So going into it for news you will obviously be disappointed because that is not the intention of it if it isn't from the toy side of things.
From the toy side of things we got a band that attaches to the old vb instead of an actual new vb model. We also got no new figures. I'm still hoping for the day that the Digivolving Spirits line returns.
At this point I don't think we should expect news from Any of the pillars of Digimon from Digimoncon.
@@taso8774 No, we got a bunch of new DiMs, a Novel/Trailer/Product series, a lot of new merch for Digimon Con and Frontier X GG.
@@mysticdigital5936 Yeah I'd rather just tell myself not to expect Anything. I don't want to get my hopes up for new figures or a new vb and then end up getting tshirts.
The sad truth is that Bandai Namco doesn't care about the Digimon IP too much, nor the western fanbase. Digimon doesn't bring in the numbers so they put no effort into it.
Its a catch 22 Cuz it very well could bring numbers but it doesn't because they don't try to get those numbers in the first place lol
LESS DIALOGUE??? Why would we want that??? Who has said they want that?????
A lot of westerners complained that cyber sleuth was too dialogue heavy. I don't really care tbh.
@@GymLeaderEd I cant believe that! i thought i dint have ENOUGH dialogue compared to other digimon games. I enjoyed the story though, and i just cant believe anyone would say that!
@@UBMadaraKN i watched and lp where half the time the dude was complaining about the characters talking so much like if a case didnt involve a battle and was there for character development it was boring
@@leoil01 I’ve played both, it wasn’t boring at all. Sounds like y’all just don’t like story games…
I can understand the lack of a Q&A in this year's con for games. As much as I liked the behind the scenes stuff from it, a lot of it last year were saying no to ports and remakes and people didn't really like that section from what I remember. More than likely, they don't really have any news to share about video game stuff so may as well focus on advertising Digimon World Next 0rder to people, and I could see them being a bit nervous about saying anything too early after the whole debacle with Survive.
i wish they would do one with both the royal knights and the Olympus 12 including pultomon for the next game
If they care about feedback they should've turn on comments for easier feedback.
I get what you're saying Ed- especially at the international market. I guess they've been busy with new titles and maybe didn't have much to show. Better show something good then do a Pokemon and have everyone doubting it.
I think the main thing is that they are doubling down on their origins. The Vital bracelet, a new novel, the TCG doing really well. I'm pretty sure they know we have a plethora of western game shows and channels for them to announce video game elements on too so that's possibly why this was a more Japan focused event.
If you aren't able vital bracelet BE fan I could see why you think it's disappointing.
It was not disappointing at all if you're a rational human being. Nowhere on the schedule did they say they were announcing a new game. Digimon Con was not advertised as a news event, so if you went in wanting that then it's your own expectations that failed you.
Digimon Con was an event full of heart and charm. Just because the specific thing tou wanted wasn't there doesnt mean it was bad. There was a ton of news about various aspects of the franchise and several once-in-a-lifetime segments.
I do agree with what you say. Thou, it was a bit of a news event. Just no new games this year.
"various aspects of the franchise"
If you mean the VB then yeah, the thing is its marketed to all Digimon fans, and they did say they were announcing the 25th anniversary project so yes people were expecting news.
The issue isnt Digimon Con its that Bandai Namco in general doesn't give Digimon fans anything, we waited 5 years for Survive to come out and that game was meant to hold us over for the next Story game, and we havent had a new Story game since 2017.
They said last year they weren't ready to show us or tell us much about the 02 movie and they still haven't told us anything, people hold hope for Digimon Con because they are radio silent almost all year so when they announce this event then yeah we should get something
Ed: there’s plenty of videos on DMW Next Order on RUclips already
Bandai: …not anymore!
I can't see how Digimon can appeal to Pokemon fans, even with similarities they're not the same, I understand the heavy Japan focus since its tradition that japanese games focus heavily on their national market since its part of their game philosophy to appeal to their own, a lot of devs have said they acknowledge the western fans, but they don't intend to change their philosophies to appeal to us, thats kinda a double edge sword since they take it too far in the marketing aspect, like ok in Japan its easier to sell out extra material 'n all, but mixing it in a global event is bad for pr imo, it will only make the non japanese fans angry with all the content n material they can't have, unless importing it, you don't attack your audience in any way if you want to maintain them, ATLUS do it a lot as well, I don't think they should change their games to appeal to global standard, but they should make accessible for western fans to have as much material as the japanese fans, even if is in small scale to avoid any possible flop due cultural reasons, I mean Pokemon somehow managed to get merchandise worldwide while still having lots of Japan only content, but I'm sure everyone would enjoy to have the same treatment Japan has with those extra appeals
Yeah, I think you were putting way too much expectation on what this was. Even after the fact that they put out their schedule online to let everyone know what they were going to show, you even made a video on that schedule. The segments were all for Digimon fans, not just video game fans, if you took a look at the live chat you'd see people from all over getting hyped over each segment. The interviews, the live music and even the tcg matches! It didn't have anything you wanted to see, so it's fair to say you were disappointed, but as a Digimon fan overall, I was not. I'm happy to see it branch out and not get relegated to just video games. The convention aspect was meant to bring ALL fans together, not just one type.
My opinion: this is digimon con, not digimon VIDEO game con. Yea they should have had more info but what they went though was perfectly fine :) just my opinion.
Its a bummer they didn't talk much about the games or show, but I feel like Digimon Con isn't for like news specifically, it's just like an event to celebrate Digimon more or less
And up front they did show the schedule that pretty much said no new game and anime info
i agree based on what other similar IP are doing theres alot of low hanging fruit they could easily capitalize on like making a TCG video game (the old digimon tcg was AMAZING) pumping out more games that were like Dusk and dawn im surprised they havent made a Digimon Tamer game that works with some form of a Vital bracelet digivice thing similar to the Pokeball from the lets go titles.
Bringing adventure PSP to the west or even making a similar game for tamers or frontier would be dope!
This problem isn't limited to digimon, events/announcements in general when it comes to Japan hosted events are usually either lackluster or extremely stretched out to oblivion. They're the master of stall, filler and merch shilling. It's unfortunate but that's the reason I honestly stopped watching any JP livestream.
Also the Digimon TCG is pretty dope, like surprisingly one of the best and well structured game that's both easy to start but hard to master. Also the art is amazing, probably one of the unique part is almost every card looks well made and not really half-assed. But I agree, highlights of the match would've been better combined with actual announcements on cards or w/e important announcement it could have.
It sucks that there wasn't a new video game announced... Huge bummer
I bet they working until 2024 Is an Better Road map for the videogame department.
Also the game was never main course of digimon the toy and film that the main. And geting game every year was a bad idea for the dev and the player.
@@AnangRabo dude we get it. That doesn’t mean their games aren’t fire. They could have revealed what they are working on
Seyuu interviews talking about useless stuff is STANDARD in Japanese events.
It's a terror to watch it.
Does bandai even care about digimon at this point ??
they push tcg for more money i guess
I mean they didn’t even make a proper amount of copies of digimon survive to even sell well so....
They do… just not in the way they should. They’re really invested in the Vital Bracelet right now. And the card game. It’s gonna be awhile before we get another game… I think the Survivors game fiasco may have made them weary
@@raptorskilltor4554 you say that like the game didn't release digital as well
I honestly just want to know when or even IF the Vital bracelet is coming to Australia. I've been waiting for ages to get my hands on one but it seems like it's never gonna come here, and importing is usually super expensive :((
Loved digimon world 2 & 3 we need remaked or hd remasters
Honestly, I went in with low expectations after last year's Digimon Con so I wasn't disapointed. The only thing that interesed me was Digimon Seekers.
It's just sad that Digimon has lost its charm and popularity nowadays. The Digimon franchise is still there, but what are they doing to it. We haven't heard anything about Digimon Adventure 02: The Beginning film, Digimon Adventure (2020) dub, or any brand new Digimon videogames either. I feel like Digimon is losing steam pretty fast. They need to do something to the Digimon franchise or let it fade away.
Perhaps they kept quiet on purpose so as not to be cannibalized because the next order will be released soon.
Also they didn't say anything about next order until survive came out.
thats what i was thinking
Agree. They most likely just don’t have anything worth showing
I was really looking forward for more news about the Olympos XII game...
Oh did they really use the same excuse they did last year for redigitize decode which has a PSP release
I understand why it felt disappointing, but I feel they aren't going to announce anything unless they know it's at a stage they can at this point. Especially after what happened with Survive and the massive delays. I feel people were so pushy about Survive despite being told the little info we had, and when it finally came, people ragged on it. Sure, you disappoint people in not announcing anything, but you also won't give anyone's hopes up if you don't promise anything either.
Regardless, I feel this year's Digicon was better than last years. Lots of merchandise and cards stuff. People can say what they want about the interviews with VAs and stuff, but I feel it's important since the animes make up a good chunk of digimon.
I mean its kind of the problem with a long-running series hitting those ruts and trying to do stuff to stay popular. I may not really follow Digimon that often anymore these days, but gonna be honest, due to how Survive came off, i think it would of been better if they didnt announce it so early on and had things more polished out, preferably focus on getting the combat systems in place, THEN have the visual novel portions done after which they could of probably did the announcement then, where it would of not been much work to do then, with just artwork, VAs, storytelling and so on.
Doesn`t help that Digimon on the V.G. side of things has always dominantly followed a `monster raising` focus, even the ones that do not have an actual farm still had it in the form of affection and of course evolving thru multiple stages of evolution, more on a gameplay side element instead of a story-driven one. So Survive being LITERALLY a Digimon-version of a Super Robot Taisen game, but watered down, in terms of structure on a number of ends didnt really help either, even before you include the delay problems.
If they have to push any games or material, i hope they instead focus on much smaller projects that do not require extensive development and focus on its core more then trying to do any big amazing wow-zer projects...maybe take a page out of the older era Digimon games (like the worlds series), go with a stand-alone type stories, could blend well with genres that have become popular...
Since i think many would get behind a Digimon title that focuses on a Rogue-like style which Digimon world 2 sort-of did with dungeon crawling, maybe a budget title that could focus on the TCG if they want a easy way for some people to get interested in that, sort of like what they also did back in the day also for another PS1`ish era game.
Never the less, not announcing anything is a good idea, but it can of course have the adverse effect to make one think its a dying franchise if they keep celebrating it but not having anything new out to keep promoting it. Hence how i feel that the Dot Hack Franchise is getting dragged thru the mud with them promoting it via merchandise but anything media wise has not seen anything new besides maybe that G.U. collection bundle...The fun of a problematic multi-layer standard i guess in that regard...
Whelp..i appreciate you telling us what it was.was hopong for new Game announcements...i don't GAF about a graphic novel or vital bracelet...i want a Game! Lol
I'd be happy with just ANY info about these multiple games they're working on. I'd have been happy if we had the q and a like last year.
Hey gym leader Ed do you know when were getting a new nexomon game
That was a fun play vb and chill live stream they did yesterday but holy cow digicon sure is late. Its way past when they said it would stream. Hopefully they go live soon but even if i have to wait some more it'll be worth it when they announce cyberslueth 3 and ps1 digimon world remastered anthology for switch.
What a pity, so much potential that they aren't using. I'm glad tcg and the bracelets are doing well even if I'm not into those. People like them and it's good for the franchise but I wish they would see how much more they could achieve in other media. Maybe they just want a low risk more careful approach and that's not necessarily bad, I would prefer we don't get another situation like survive (love the game, but we all know by now all the problems with development it had and how that must have hurt profits) but not even some future plans or Q&A? I wouldn't expect games to be their main focus as a franchise (although with monster taming games being so popular that's honestly a wasted opportunity) but this is far to little.
gym leader ed can I ask you a question why is Digimon company never making any x antibody Digimon in their official offline game?
Comon dude people will probably compalin abour re-skin uses for a model. Also some digimon game actually uses natural carrying x-antibody like dorumon, and fanbeemon.
Pokemon has been consistently dropping the ball since SwSh and Digimon can't take the hint, impressive how after all the critics last year thing didn't improve at all -.-
The pokemon anime seem to be picking up since the new series won't have ash as the main character
You are absolutely correct. The whole event was a big mess with not a whole lot of information. I guess Seekers is cool if you're into webnovels, but as someone who only cares about the anime and games, it's an easy pass. The absolute state of Digimon.
Seekers would've been sick if it was a game, novel, anime, vital bracelet expansion, tcg series, etc like its a cool concept but they should've really expanded its reach to hit all Digimon fans imo
@@GymLeaderEd Ed but Seekers it is a novel and vital bracelet expansion.
@@rafalb692 I know loll. It would've been sick if they added the other stuff I mentioned
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The con could’ve been like 30 minutes
Like i don't think not having digimon game this year was a bad think yeah they say have multiple project but don't take it like the project will coming soon. Also digimon don't focus on game first, it was a toy and anime first, that's make game was a spinoff of it. That why you don't need expect game or trailer like Nintendo direct for new game in that kind of event because they are diffrent company bandai was toy company not a game. Personally digimon con this year not that worst than i think, like yeah it's suck not having digimon game this year but i feel they can take some rest and learn from digimon survive.
My issue with the con is that its marketed to all Digimon fans but the vast majority of the con was spent on the VB which aren't even readily available in the west. I love the TCG but even then I don't care to see people play with off meta decks, as an anime and game fan I felt let down, my only thought on why we didn't get any new game is they don't wanna take away from the release period for Next Order and will wait till after, but if thats the case why not postpone Digimon Con
bandai japan has been ignoring the rest of the world for quite a long time. it honestly feels masochistic to support digimon and bandai as a whole. there is bandai US, but it really feels like they don't receive enough resources or respect from their parent company since they keep having to release products that were already produced in japan, leading to situations like the vital hero being announced the same day as the vital brace BE.
so the sad truth is that bandai probably wont branch out because they either don't believe in the international market or their not big enough to take it on. and honestly, i would say they're not "good" enough with their constant oversights
Actually how did we find out about Next Order getting a port to switch?
Last year’s con.
Cycling between a Story and a virtual pet sim (World) game every 2 years, giving each game a total of 4 years development time, would be a great way to go. It'd keep Digimon relevant and appease most of the fans of the genre. They also really need an online version of TCG because it's good enough to get a decent audience but it needs that ease of access and exposure. In fact, with every new game release they should tie a code for a special card in the online version of the game, creating a little digimon ecosystem that rewards you for buying all their products. It's consumerism 101 and idk why they're sleeping on it
there is a game similar to pokemon that is based on brazilian culture and it is brazilian it is called kaardik. there is an alpha scheduled for July or June and an older one
All am asking for is a new Digimon mobile moba 😭😭😭😭😭
Don't give a bad idea moba and digimon was diffrent think the game probably only playable in asian and will dead in 1-2 year.
Good thing i went into sleep mode while digimon con was uncut live.
Totally agree with you on the Cyber sleuth comment
I was expecting this unfortunately. But I'm glad the vital bracelet got more coverage
....It was Different but Thank you for Covering it !!!! I gave you a Like and watched a few Minutes and Left the Live....
I said this in the livestream and ill repeat myself here.
Digimon ABSOLUTELY could and should be a pokemon competitor, even more so than it was in the 90s, if Bandai actually gave enough of a shit about the IP and brand. It fills a more mature niche desperately craved in the pokemon (and monster taming in general) community and Bandai refuses to strike the iron while its hot.
dude give a break in the end of the day digimon was toy and anime first and game second so if you want a animation studio make a game you need to wait and see.
@@AnangRabo lol those were certainly words you said. Good for you, or im sorry to hear that. Whichever fits better as a reply.
The one thing that saved this whole Con was that we were having a nice chat during the stream, because the content itself almost made me sleep...
A bit funny how it seems Digimon’s strength is also it’s weakness with Digimon Con. Digimon has survived all these years by existing in a variety of mediums and genres. But when it’s all gathered for a single presentation, parts of it wind up losing our interest because it’s not the part we care about.
I want the goddamn new story game. Not a vital bracelet
What a shame, I wanted to get into Digimon games but the only game that got my interest was Cyber Sleuth Complete Edition. Maybe we'll get a new game after Survive?
It was entertaining but we wanted news about the game, the new digimons were cool though
Where was the news about the eng international dub. This is still AWOL after the Nov 2022 1st 2 episode premiered at a con.
Shame it wasn't better for you, and I don't have an opinion because... Well I didn't watch it myself. But this is why I follow the advice of SuperDerek and hype responsibly. Just lower my expectations and just watch. It makes watching any form of Direct much more enjoyable! Although I might have to cover the nearby chat...
From the sound of it though with Digimon here, I would have been disappointed with the lack of gaming news. Heard some good things about the TCG though!
It's all ways all about Japan
I didn't hate the con but I do wish that they had more video game news or at least I wish they should a teaser for a future game.
Maybe they just don’t have anything to report on yet.
I had low expectations, and it went as expected. I agree with what your saying. Last year's Con was better
Fully agree with your points Ed I’m actually very happy I didn’t stay up to watch the DigiCon since I would’ve been very disappointed
It's sad that they focus on things I'll never see where I live.
I'll be honest I had really low expectations for the games at digicon but I was still disappointed in the content, I mean it was just tips for next order for only 10 minutes and the same trailer.
W. The gba emulator coming to the switch wouldn’t that mean the ds etc etc will also come to the switch so the digimon games might come w. Them?
They advertised TCG more because they believe it'll give them more money
Disappointing. Really wanted to play using new digimon from the anime like Digimon Ghost or even Appmon
Tha sad truth is that Bandai does not believe in Digimon, i think they are probably afraid to go to hard on Digimon because they migth believe Pokemon took all the space the market had for this kind of content. Its a shame that they dont realize they do not have to compete with Pokemon, Digimon is its own thing and could perfectly coexist as being Pokemom more mature sibling. Oh, well, maybe one day... Until them i guess i have to be happy with the Next Order port, at least the game is new to me so its gonna be fun to play it for the first time.
I call it we getting a new digimon game in 2024 one new digimon game per year
Had a feeling haha...
Four hours was way too long. It didn't feel like they really had content for that time. Sure they had lots of songs but I feel like that was just padding. They could have easily made a Nintendo Direct type video and have it be 30 minutes and that probably would have been enough time to cover anything important.
Nothing but tamagotchis again. No surprise
I'm still hoping that one day they'll release a mobile game like pokémon masters online. or maybe a moba or something maybe like poke go
I wish I won the lottery and bought this franchise from them. Whoever is running things sucks. The advertisement. The writers. They need a new idea guy lol
Idk wtf happened to Digimon. These idiots just have to make a digimon world game but just let you create your own character. Jeez am I so sick of Japanese games forcing me to play pathetic MC’s. That’s partially why fire emblem engage is getting such a lukewarm reception across the board. They should make world a game for all
Players and then make other digimon games character and story focused. Digimon should not be a hard IP to get into. It’s so ridiculous. For all the awful Pokémon games that come out (sword and shield, scarlet and violet,etc) they still have a decent amount of entry points. Mystery Dungeon, Let’s Go, Legends Arceus. Digimon is lacking in so many ways that it’s embarrassing. I don’t understand why Digimon can’t get the Tales of Arise treatment.
Dude tale of arise have there own studio "team wolf/bandai namco tales studio" went digimon must get permission to bandai namco to uses there studio. That the same as all bandai anime game like dragonball, one piece, digimon hack even my hero academy need get permission to bandai namco to make anime video game.
All am asking for is a new Digimon mobile game 😭😭😭😭😭
Digimon Con, ever with low expectations was still very² disappointing.
The current state of digimon: "on life support"
Bandai: "we can fix it but we just dont want to, its too much hassle"
The con was trash for me sadly. They touch upon stuff that I didnt even care about. I wanted Video game reveals or remake news and got absolutely nothing. Its sad that bandai doesnt care about the IP or making games for DIGIMON. maybe next year they’ll announce a game.
Seeker project could have been a game idea instead of a novel. smh
Digimon acts like they're a big deal having the audacity to do conventions without anything to showcase. garbage franchise. they're focusing too much on Japanese market.