This video has seen an uptick in views due to recent events regarding the other members of the band. They have since left and as of writing this update, Tim is the only member of As I Lay Dying remaining. While exactly what transpired is unknown, it is almost certain that Tim’s behavior is a key factor, as many of the members have made references to their moral limits being tested. It seems Tim has not learned his lesson and likely never will. (10/31/24) Make sure to like the video! Videos of this subject matter are at risk for demonetization (I learned that the hard way with my VeeOneEye video) So Maybe consider supporting me on Patreon? (if you have the means) 💜www.patreon.com/FXKNate/membership
@@cerrinhendricks241 yup it’s wild! I never even received my perks from the project they shipped it to my old address years later after he got out of jail lol
his tumblr post would’ve made sense if had he been apologizing for/justifying his cheating but “i gave up on god and marriage so i hired a fkn hitman bc divorce is a hard” is just bonkers.
@@laboinagaming so? He could have taken her to court and gotten partial custody. Trying to kill his wife is fucking insane and you trying to justify that is disgraceful.
It just frustrates me how quick people were to forgive him. Like if someone attempted to off one of your family members would you be so quick to forgive?
@@Bluis5445 there’s nothing based about his actions. He’s working hard to redeem himself & become a better person, which I completely respect, but he lost his based privileges a long time ago
Colassians 3:13 “Bear with each other and forgive one another if any of you has a grievance against someone. Forgive as the Lord forgave you” I know Tim said he lost his faith but if the other members haven’t they’re obligated to forgive him.
@@Bluis5445 Surgeon, the Woman-Killer voice: "sTaY mAd tIM bAsEd! no copium here! Talking to undercover cops to murder for you is BASED!" Han the Unforgiving's reaction: 🗿(he commits his own murders like a true Chad)
Megan was my friend's english teacher at a private school, in Solana Beach. I told him about his arrest and how he tried to try to hire a hitman to kill her. He was shocked to the core.
Though Tim is a great vocalist and an early influence of how I scream, I don't think he should have been let back into the band. Despite how good he is, there's thousands of vocalists who are just as good (if not better) who are all hungry and looking for work in such a niche genre.
There’s major differences in the way certain people use them. Most professional bodybuilders and people on TRT are usually on a much more controlled and scientifically analyzed cycle than your average gym bro blasting trenbalone until his veins are inflated like a crimped over garden hose.
You clearly don't understand the defense. He was abusing the substance causing mental instability and contributing (key word) to his poor judgement. It isn't "oh this thing made me take this action and thus all the responsibility is off my shoulders".
@@nomeru_0 tell me you don't know how androgens work without telling me. Do you even know which specific compound he was taking? Unless he was on copious quantities of anadrol or superdrol (oral masteron) on the daily it wouldn't contribute.
Man I remembered when this all happened. I was a Marine in the service and my Staff NCO who played in a band was really familiar with the scene at the time and with the bands in it, one of those being AILD. He couldn’t believe it, and when I look back now I think it’s even crazier that they took Tim back in.
To hold a grudge against someone, especially on a surface level, isn't good for anyone. We, as fans, can forgive. But in the eyes of his family, friends & ex wife, if i were in their shoes, idk if i would be able to have that strength.. the amount of hate & dread to have toward someone, especially towards someone you loved once, is pure evil. He'll repent for the rest of his life & i hope he does.
I seriously doubt it since he’s already said in an interview that he’s an atheist and he did the whole Christian thing just to sell records. I doubt he’ll be repenting anytime soon. 😂
Man I remember when I first found out about this and how frighted and upset the wife must’ve been when she found out, just imagining your ex tried to assassinate you and failed. Loved the video dude 🧡
Nick is currently in a band called Mire, and most of the AILD members got with the Oh, Sleeper vocalist to make two great albums as a band called Wovenwar between the time AILD broke up and reformed if anyone wants to hear some good tunes from these guys. Really wish they'd just reform Wovenwar.
as a christian metalhead and guitarist myself, it kinda isn't fun to hear people call metal music the "devil's music". this video was very interesting, and I like learning this type of stuff, good shit man.
Even though I’m late to this comment, why is it called devil’s music? Like I don’t understand why people call it that. For some people, they say if you listen to it, you’re cursed. Specifically Christians, or I’m probably wrong.
@@Redwolf753 it’s because unfortunately there is a lot of degenerate devil worshippers who like and make metal music. the overall metal vibe is associated with hell and the underworld. at least from what know. not all metal is like that though.
@@ExaFH Ohhhhhh, okay, thank you for explaining because what I thought was that it was talking about the devil or something like that, but thanks for the explanation.
Even a lot of modern black metal. Many modern black metal bands are about fantasy themes, cultural heritage, or niche historical topics. Its not just Mayhem "oooo we worship satannn!!" anymore
Gynecomastia, (MAN BOOBS) is a real fear for men and young boys who HAVE to take steroids and or ADHD meds. My son was on ritalin as a child and it caused him to go from a normal lil boy to husky kid, Hes now 22 6ft3 and 275lbs. Luckily His man boobs were just fat based, but those with real gynecomastia develop actual breasts. However this NOT a reason to do evil. Also not trying to cause a problem but PLEASE don't use the word retarded when referring to someone or something stupid. It's a very negative word for ppl like my son and others who were called "retards" because they were different He also has Autism Spectrum Disorder. Thank you for everything you do LOVE YOUR CHANNEL!!!
I came to watch this video to see if he still uses offensive words that haven’t been okay to say for a long time now and he won’t. He doesn’t care and he made a tweet stating as such 😔
Great video, i remember getting into aild when I was 16 after hearing nothing left in saints row 2, shadows are security is a banger album, sucks that tim did what he did and it sucks that all the band members except for tim and phil left, great that josh gilbert is now the bassist for spiritbox but him, nick and jordan made aild, happy that tim is doing better now.
Well, he's not as bad as Varg. Varg ACTUALLY offed someone. Tim tried to. That and Varg is a racist, white supremacist, conspiracy theorist nut job who got banned from RUclips. But that's not to say what Tim did is excusable.
I can’t begin to imagine the mind and thought process of someone who’d hire a hitman to end the life of someone, much less someone you’ve supposedly sworn your life and love to, and think “yah, that’s the solution to my problems” It’s heartbreaking. AILD was such an important band for me growing up, but I think they should call it game, if not for everyone essentially walking out, but because itd be the right thing to do
Dude, this was a REALLY good video. I appreciate that you didn’t use this as an opportunity to bash Christians (I am one) but rather held him to the standards he claimed to live to as one, spot on! Also, getting this timeline right was super important, I didn’t know the order of events and it really helped me understand the situation. Keep up the great work!
I had always heard about AILD growing up getting more into metalcore, but never listened to them. Their reunion record "Shaped By Fire" helped me through 2020 (which was the darkest time in life) and I like to attribute me being able to move on from trauma to these guys honestly. Absolutely what Tim did was horrible, but I have to agree with you. It seems like he's done a complete personality change and it's amazing to see honestly. I just hope he keeps it up.
I’ll never forget when this happened. Just seen AILD at Mayhem Fest 2012. Seen them one more time in December that year with Asking Alexandria before all this happened. Was really disturbing to think he was probably thinking and planning all this the last time I saw him. Got a few videos of that show on here too. Crazy times.
I’ve always appreciated and valued your perspective over things when you just be real with us ya know? This must have been a heavy undertaking creating this vid considering how you were a fan of AILD. I never really was into them so when I first heard of this I was like “oh shit…well…that happened aha” Either way, I look forward to your more comedic stuff soon enough. I’m sure you need a breath of levity after releasing all these vids back to back haha
WOW what an incredible video. Truly shocking and heartbreaking. Nate, you did a wonderful job piecing this together and putting in all the work to make this happen. I do want to open a discussion regarding the instrumental section of the band. A big part of me agrees with you when you say they don’t deserve the scrutiny, but a small part of me does not agree. Obviously, there was a lot of mental strain to make the reformation happen, but why did it even happen in the first place? To the public, it just looks like the whole band swept the situation under the rug and wanted to continue on as the biggest metalcore band to ever exist, ignoring the MASSIVE elephant in the room. Maybe I’ve got the wrong take, but I’d love to hear other opinions.
I'll never get how easily some people can seperate the art and the artist. It completely taints the art. There are plenty of talented people who are trash humans. Yet people are still worshipping them and feeding their financial gain. Legit - humans are the main reason the world is falling apart. Also side note - this guy was a moron for taking steroids and then then trying to sue about his man boobs. Purely delusional.
Great content Nate! Could you do content on Ian Watkins from Lostprophets? Until the allegations came about they were one of my favourite bands so it would be good to get some insight!
Another great video buddy ! As I Lay Dying with Tim, at that time was one of the best bands ever. I discovered them at 15, and wow, the voice, the instrumentals, the atmophere, just took a slap on my face. Got a question (out of context) : how can we help for subheading your videos ? Idk if you're interrested to have your vids wth french subtitles by example, if so, I'd be happy to help !
I'm glad George Fisher of Cannibal Corpse is one of the more recognizable faces in metal because he comes across as a very down to earth person. At the very least he likes Legos and hasn't tried to kill any of his family members.
I played in a local band in the early 2000's and I left due to a membe's drug and alcohol use. He was just the nucest guy when he was clean and sober but as soon as he had a drink or did a drug you basically feared for your own safety and the safety of others. I tried to talk to him about it and he was mad at me for not following his lead in living the "Rock Star" life. I told him we weren't rick stars but just 4 guys who wrote and played metal. I expressed my concerns with the other members but they didn't seem concerned at all just mad he was disappearing before practice and for a couple days at a time. I tried to talk to his girlfriend she said that he was abusive towards her and she was staying out of it. I finally collected my stuff after work one evening and never came back. His girlfriend begged me not to quit because if he came home and my stuff was gone then she wasn't sure how he would react. He ended up calling me and cussed me out for about 10 minutes. I simply told him I was done if drugs was more important than our musical partnership. He told me he enjoyed drugs and he could do both. I told him that he missed the last three practices because he ran off. He didn't seem to care so I told him to find another guitar player and I was keeping all the guitar parts that I wrote which was basically all of our songs. I never really spoke to him again after that phone call.
His lyrics on Shadows are Security(banger), specifically, made me start to wonder if he was truly the Christian he claimed. I know that he wasn't alone in all the writing but my instincts told me that extreme doubt was starting to take hold, it was just a feeling.
As a Christian who lost her faith for a few years after my grandma passed, it does not change your perception of morality it just makes you question things. Whatever faith you follow we know ehats wrong and whats not. I returned to my faith after I realized God doesn't control anything, whatever happens is not his fault or anyone's. Things just happen, how you deal with it is our problem.
Dude I was wondering why you look so familiar, holy shit you look so similar to Matt Tuck from bullet for my valentine in the waking the demon music video! It’s a childhood fav of mine
Great video man! You did an excellent job putting into words how I am sure many of us felt throughout this, especially those of us that came up with AILD in the early years. Obviously, what he did was absolutely morally horrendous and it can be understood why people wouldn't forgive him. The stress it caused to Nick and the other members of the band is also completely understandable. However, AILD had a major impact on the genre, myself, and many other fans. For this reason, I choose not to associate Tims's actions with the art they created. No matter how much I despise the choices he made, I could never stop listening to AILD. Shadows and Oceans are in my opinion 2 of the greatest albums from that timeframe with The Powerless Rise not too far behind. These records came out during my teenage formative years and helped shape my music taste forever just as so many other bands did on those late-night Headbangers Ball episodes. So, to sum it up...Tim absolutely fucked up and made a big piece of shit move but the art he helped create was pure gold!
It's weird to watch this all again after all the band members left again lol, especially cus a new album is coming out soon so it's definitely gonna be interesting to see how it's all layed out. I honestly am just curious of what went down that made every new member leave. As the way Phil worded his statement ("After witnessing some concerning patterns of behavior, I've realized that I can no longer, in good conscience, enable further actions that could negatively affect anyone working within this space." on his instagram i think?) makes me wonder and kinda fear for the people around Tim. Especially because Phil only thanks the newer ex-members in his statement. A year late to comment to this but this is still a really well made video.
Which sucks that he had to do this instead of being a man and taking care of your shit. His music was hitting all time highs before he got arrested. But play stupid games win stupid prizes
I remember seeing them with demon hunter at like the "big" local venue like in 2008 or 2009. I've been to like 40 shows in total there and it was one of maybe two or three times I've seen the entire floor as a pit I remember when the report came out I was like holy shit no way Also I do remember some of the lefty youtubers I watch covered it as well :o
I was a fan of as i lay dying, I was just 16, with an ocean between us. After tim's arrest I stopped listening to them after that. I decided to buy their record shaped by fire in 2019, and I even saw them in 2022 with whitechapel, shadow of intent, and brand of sacrifice. It's real intresting that they all left after saying they would come back and make another record with espcially phill was still in the band not leaving.
I saw them that same year, hell of a show, all bands did amazing, admittedly though, I thought Tim was lacking with the vocals, but over all enjoyable show and line up.
The most disgusting thing is to see all the people that have defended and rationalized his actions. Comments like “He didnt go through with it” or “He did his time” are so aggravating because of their falsehoods. I was a huge fan, Tim was a hero to me growing up. But when this all happened I was done. I still play old stuff but I refuse to listen to anything new and I will never support them again. The fact the other members ever went back is disappointing.
I have some experience with these guys on multiple occasions. I was shocked when I heard this years ago. My most memorable time I had with them was in Louisville, KY. I dont remember who they were playing with, but they remembered me from a past show, and we had some mutual friends. I was able to keep my purse behind the merch table while I danced. And then after the show we all had pizza. It was good times. Never would have thought.
Correct me if I’m wrong but I believe jordan sued the members of the band for a chunk of money as like a payout for his portion. If he was suing them he probably couldn’t talk to them. Usually you’re told to stay away from people you’re in legal battles with
My cousin was a very strong black belt in martial arts (I believe he had a 4th or 5th degree black belt), and could do the splits against a wall. He was into martial arts for many, many, many years, but he began to lift weights to help build muscle and strength; he wanted to become the next Bruce Lee, and he was on his way in achieving that goal. That all changed when his “trainer” introduced him to steroids. Sure, he bulked up, but he really changed for the worse. He became very, very aggressive towards his family - especially his father. He did lose his hair, and he stopped doing martial arts. I haven’t heard anything about him since his father passed away.
Played a show with AILD last year in Ireland. Setting my drums up Tim walked past and was all like ‘how’s it going dude’. I was shook, but dude seemed alright. Built like a brick shithouse too 😂
This is so fucking wild. I feel like losing someone's faith is worse than never having any. And as for the people who forgave him? I feel like thinking about how youd act if it was your friend/family doesnt match how youd actually act
Damn dude, me and the boys lost our minds when they posted the first clip of My Own Grave after he was released. Then when the single dropped, I called my homie at 2 in the morning to show him the new AILD. We played it on repeat for at least an hour lol. Regardless of the things that transpired, AILD was a huge part of growing up🔥
This video has seen an uptick in views due to recent events regarding the other members of the band. They have since left and as of writing this update, Tim is the only member of As I Lay Dying remaining. While exactly what transpired is unknown, it is almost certain that Tim’s behavior is a key factor, as many of the members have made references to their moral limits being tested. It seems Tim has not learned his lesson and likely never will. (10/31/24)
Make sure to like the video! Videos of this subject matter are at risk for demonetization (I learned that the hard way with my VeeOneEye video)
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Pro tip: the hitman online is always an undercover cop.
I'll keep that in mind next time I'm trying to kill my wife
How about offline?
@@BitchChill same deal
I feel like you could pay a crackhead to do it. They’ll do anything.
Pro tip: figure out a better way to deal with your problems b
Fun fact: I bought a vip package for his band Austrian Death Machine to help fund their album and that money went towards hiring the Hitman 💀😂
GET TO THE CHOPPAAAAAAAA!!!!
That’s….. metal af
Yeah, I threw in on that project too...
YOU ARE NOW PART OF METAL LORE
@@cerrinhendricks241 yup it’s wild! I never even received my perks from the project they shipped it to my old address years later after he got out of jail lol
his tumblr post would’ve made sense if had he been apologizing for/justifying his cheating but “i gave up on god and marriage so i hired a fkn hitman bc divorce is a hard” is just bonkers.
She was also trying to keep him from ever seeing his child again.
@@laboinagaming so? He could have taken her to court and gotten partial custody. Trying to kill his wife is fucking insane and you trying to justify that is disgraceful.
@@laboinagaming and why do you think that was? because he was super safe to be around.
@cattmartyr ahhhh I see you're one of those mmmkay anyway have fun "fucking" your hand the rest of your life ig
@@adrienneraeash3440 Where did he justify what he did? He was merely adding information, idiot.
It just frustrates me how quick people were to forgive him. Like if someone attempted to off one of your family members would you be so quick to forgive?
Seriously
lol
@@Bluis5445 there’s nothing based about his actions. He’s working hard to redeem himself & become a better person, which I completely respect, but he lost his based privileges a long time ago
Colassians 3:13 “Bear with each other and forgive one another if any of you has a grievance against someone. Forgive as the Lord forgave you”
I know Tim said he lost his faith but if the other members haven’t they’re obligated to forgive him.
@@Bluis5445 Surgeon, the Woman-Killer voice: "sTaY mAd tIM bAsEd! no copium here! Talking to undercover cops to murder for you is BASED!"
Han the Unforgiving's reaction: 🗿(he commits his own murders like a true Chad)
Megan was my friend's english teacher at a private school, in Solana Beach. I told him about his arrest and how he tried to try to hire a hitman to kill her. He was shocked to the core.
Regardless of everything, 94 hours is still an unbeatable classic.
Agreed 🙌🙌
As *MY WIFE lays dying
Lmao
Also my heart really breaks for Nick, he was the nicest guy
Though Tim is a great vocalist and an early influence of how I scream, I don't think he should have been let back into the band. Despite how good he is, there's thousands of vocalists who are just as good (if not better) who are all hungry and looking for work in such a niche genre.
maybe im wrong , someone also correct me if i am , but i think he had rights to the band so they were kinda put into a weird shitty position
@@mattyfulford6351 Yeah Tim IS aild
His defense that anabolics caused him to be angry, to the point of murdering someone, is absurd to anyone that's ever used anabolics.
BIGGGGGG facts
There’s major differences in the way certain people use them. Most professional bodybuilders and people on TRT are usually on a much more controlled and scientifically analyzed cycle than your average gym bro blasting trenbalone until his veins are inflated like a crimped over garden hose.
Tren be like
You clearly don't understand the defense. He was abusing the substance causing mental instability and contributing (key word) to his poor judgement. It isn't "oh this thing made me take this action and thus all the responsibility is off my shoulders".
@@nomeru_0 tell me you don't know how androgens work without telling me. Do you even know which specific compound he was taking? Unless he was on copious quantities of anadrol or superdrol (oral masteron) on the daily it wouldn't contribute.
Man I remembered when this all happened. I was a Marine in the service and my Staff NCO who played in a band was really familiar with the scene at the time and with the bands in it, one of those being AILD. He couldn’t believe it, and when I look back now I think it’s even crazier that they took Tim back in.
To hold a grudge against someone, especially on a surface level, isn't good for anyone. We, as fans, can forgive. But in the eyes of his family, friends & ex wife, if i were in their shoes, idk if i would be able to have that strength.. the amount of hate & dread to have toward someone, especially towards someone you loved once, is pure evil. He'll repent for the rest of his life & i hope he does.
I seriously doubt it since he’s already said in an interview that he’s an atheist and he did the whole Christian thing just to sell records. I doubt he’ll be repenting anytime soon. 😂
I hope you get to Blood on the Dance Floor, eventually. These are fantastic.
Man I remember when I first found out about this and how frighted and upset the wife must’ve been when she found out, just imagining your ex tried to assassinate you and failed. Loved the video dude 🧡
Imagine how fucked up and frightening it is for some twat to play games with your Son in court....you couldn't likely.....
Boys who poop vs. Men who shit
… I laughed harder at that than I thought I would like to admit 😂
as someone who grew up in the San Diego punk and metal scenes, this was such a wild thing to have seen unfold in real time.
Same here. I was working in Vista and my coworker and I were losing our shit when we heard he got arrested not even 20 minutes from us😂
Nick is currently in a band called Mire, and most of the AILD members got with the Oh, Sleeper vocalist to make two great albums as a band called Wovenwar between the time AILD broke up and reformed if anyone wants to hear some good tunes from these guys. Really wish they'd just reform Wovenwar.
Wovenwar was so freaking bad
@@spencer6709 Nobody asked? Lmao
@@spencer6709agree Lmao 😂 they were not good..
this one makes me feel so mad sigh i can’t even believe people forgave him that fast
Life hack: paying for divorce hurts your wallet less than going to jail and paying restitution along with alimony
Not getting married at all and getting a prenuptial agreement is even more cost effective
Tbh you kinda look like Corpse Grinder if he had a skinnier neck LOL
And a nose piercing.
as a christian metalhead and guitarist myself, it kinda isn't fun to hear people call metal music the "devil's music". this video was very interesting, and I like learning this type of stuff, good shit man.
Even though I’m late to this comment, why is it called devil’s music? Like I don’t understand why people call it that. For some people, they say if you listen to it, you’re cursed. Specifically Christians, or I’m probably wrong.
@@Redwolf753 it’s because unfortunately there is a lot of degenerate devil worshippers who like and make metal music. the overall metal vibe is associated with hell and the underworld. at least from what know. not all metal is like that though.
@@ExaFH Ohhhhhh, okay, thank you for explaining because what I thought was that it was talking about the devil or something like that, but thanks for the explanation.
Even a lot of modern black metal. Many modern black metal bands are about fantasy themes, cultural heritage, or niche historical topics. Its not just Mayhem "oooo we worship satannn!!" anymore
Gynecomastia, (MAN BOOBS) is a real fear for men and young boys who HAVE to take steroids and or ADHD meds. My son was on ritalin as a child and it caused him to go from a normal lil boy to husky kid, Hes now 22 6ft3 and 275lbs. Luckily His man boobs were just fat based, but those with real gynecomastia develop actual breasts. However this NOT a reason to do evil. Also not trying to cause a problem but PLEASE don't use the word retarded when referring to someone or something stupid. It's a very negative word for ppl like my son and others who were called "retards" because they were different He also has Autism Spectrum Disorder. Thank you for everything you do LOVE YOUR CHANNEL!!!
I came to watch this video to see if he still uses offensive words that haven’t been okay to say for a long time now and he won’t. He doesn’t care and he made a tweet stating as such 😔
You've grown up a lot and I truly watch most of your videos now.
Uhhh what??
It’s refreshing seeing a RUclipsr who just is themselves. Not trying to put on some front or “RUclips act”. Love ur vids man!
thanks so much :> thats my biggest priority as a creator
Great video, i remember getting into aild when I was 16 after hearing nothing left in saints row 2, shadows are security is a banger album, sucks that tim did what he did and it sucks that all the band members except for tim and phil left, great that josh gilbert is now the bassist for spiritbox but him, nick and jordan made aild, happy that tim is doing better now.
I find it extremely comical that AILD had pryo issues and Tim got *shaped by fire* if you will
He almost looks like a young Varg in the thumbnail. Oh the irony.
Well, he's not as bad as Varg. Varg ACTUALLY offed someone. Tim tried to. That and Varg is a racist, white supremacist, conspiracy theorist nut job who got banned from RUclips.
But that's not to say what Tim did is excusable.
dude, your content is so addictive i cant stop watching, i love it
Thanks buddy!
Dude, these series are insanely good, please keep ‘em coming ❤
I can’t begin to imagine the mind and thought process of someone who’d hire a hitman to end the life of someone, much less someone you’ve supposedly sworn your life and love to, and think “yah, that’s the solution to my problems”
It’s heartbreaking.
AILD was such an important band for me growing up, but I think they should call it game, if not for everyone essentially walking out, but because itd be the right thing to do
Not to mention without thinking about the kid and band situation and who'd take care of the kids. Like, all of it, ugh x-x
The Darkest Nights is one of my favorite songs. Still slaps 🔥
Yes that's my favorite too
Dude, this was a REALLY good video. I appreciate that you didn’t use this as an opportunity to bash Christians (I am one) but rather held him to the standards he claimed to live to as one, spot on! Also, getting this timeline right was super important, I didn’t know the order of events and it really helped me understand the situation. Keep up the great work!
This is absolutely unrelated. From seeing your Veil of Maya flag in every video I decided to check the, out and now I have a few hyper fixation songs
What happened with Tim literally seems like a kneejerk decision you can make in BitLife.
I had always heard about AILD growing up getting more into metalcore, but never listened to them. Their reunion record "Shaped By Fire" helped me through 2020 (which was the darkest time in life) and I like to attribute me being able to move on from trauma to these guys honestly.
Absolutely what Tim did was horrible, but I have to agree with you. It seems like he's done a complete personality change and it's amazing to see honestly. I just hope he keeps it up.
Damn never realized how the whole band is a bunch of Giga Chads though..
I still remembered on how shocked I was when I found out.
But I do hope after all that he’s keeping out of trouble.
Edit: absolutely phenomenal video.
I’ll never forget when this happened. Just seen AILD at Mayhem Fest 2012. Seen them one more time in December that year with Asking Alexandria before all this happened. Was really disturbing to think he was probably thinking and planning all this the last time I saw him. Got a few videos of that show on here too. Crazy times.
very nice video, it’s good to have the entire narrative laid out
I’ve always appreciated and valued your perspective over things when you just be real with us ya know? This must have been a heavy undertaking creating this vid considering how you were a fan of AILD.
I never really was into them so when I first heard of this I was like “oh shit…well…that happened aha”
Either way, I look forward to your more comedic stuff soon enough. I’m sure you need a breath of levity after releasing all these vids back to back haha
WOW what an incredible video. Truly shocking and heartbreaking. Nate, you did a wonderful job piecing this together and putting in all the work to make this happen.
I do want to open a discussion regarding the instrumental section of the band. A big part of me agrees with you when you say they don’t deserve the scrutiny, but a small part of me does not agree. Obviously, there was a lot of mental strain to make the reformation happen, but why did it even happen in the first place? To the public, it just looks like the whole band swept the situation under the rug and wanted to continue on as the biggest metalcore band to ever exist, ignoring the MASSIVE elephant in the room.
Maybe I’ve got the wrong take, but I’d love to hear other opinions.
That last big take was pretty hot lol
Those was a great commentary/essay vid. Your next one should be about Jonny Craig's history
Your channel is amazing. Thank you for this content. I wish I could binge watch it but you do not have enough videos lol
Another banger of a video Nate, congrats on the channel's success
Thank you dude!
WOW the bandmate destroyed him!
One of the best takes I’ve seen someone give. I was expecting a hit piece and it was far from it and I agree 100%
Remember when the AA poured hot oil on his junk and pegged himself with a nanner? I 'member...
How did I not know about any of this? I used to listen to a couple of their songs when I was in high school.
I'll never get how easily some people can seperate the art and the artist. It completely taints the art. There are plenty of talented people who are trash humans. Yet people are still worshipping them and feeding their financial gain. Legit - humans are the main reason the world is falling apart.
Also side note - this guy was a moron for taking steroids and then then trying to sue about his man boobs. Purely delusional.
Great content Nate! Could you do content on Ian Watkins from Lostprophets? Until the allegations came about they were one of my favourite bands so it would be good to get some insight!
Damn bro, being an AILD fan back then must've been harder than the Ineviatable Equilibrium inn challenge in Dragonfable
Another great video buddy ! As I Lay Dying with Tim, at that time was one of the best bands ever. I discovered them at 15, and wow, the voice, the instrumentals, the atmophere, just took a slap on my face.
Got a question (out of context) : how can we help for subheading your videos ? Idk if you're interrested to have your vids wth french subtitles by example, if so, I'd be happy to help !
I'm glad George Fisher of Cannibal Corpse is one of the more recognizable faces in metal because he comes across as a very down to earth person. At the very least he likes Legos and hasn't tried to kill any of his family members.
Great thoughts and vid- mad respect to you for this talk & all the band mates.
I still love the albums as oceans lay between us and shaped by fire
Yes dude!! Thanks for covering this! 💜💜💜
I played in a local band in the early 2000's and I left due to a membe's drug and alcohol use. He was just the nucest guy when he was clean and sober but as soon as he had a drink or did a drug you basically feared for your own safety and the safety of others. I tried to talk to him about it and he was mad at me for not following his lead in living the "Rock Star" life. I told him we weren't rick stars but just 4 guys who wrote and played metal. I expressed my concerns with the other members but they didn't seem concerned at all just mad he was disappearing before practice and for a couple days at a time. I tried to talk to his girlfriend she said that he was abusive towards her and she was staying out of it. I finally collected my stuff after work one evening and never came back. His girlfriend begged me not to quit because if he came home and my stuff was gone then she wasn't sure how he would react. He ended up calling me and cussed me out for about 10 minutes. I simply told him I was done if drugs was more important than our musical partnership. He told me he enjoyed drugs and he could do both. I told him that he missed the last three practices because he ran off. He didn't seem to care so I told him to find another guitar player and I was keeping all the guitar parts that I wrote which was basically all of our songs. I never really spoke to him again after that phone call.
I seen As I Lay Dying in 2006 with openers Black Tide and the headliner Bullet For My Valentine in Knoxville Tn AWESOME FUCKING SHOW
Honestly, these videos really be keeping me going after a long day of work 😌 Much love, cant wait to see more of your work in the future!!
His lyrics on Shadows are Security(banger), specifically, made me start to wonder if he was truly the Christian he claimed. I know that he wasn't alone in all the writing but my instincts told me that extreme doubt was starting to take hold, it was just a feeling.
Sound of truth also felt very secular imo
Sound Of Truth has to be my favorite song by them, I feel the same way about the lyrics on that track.
As I Hired The Wrong Guy
what a dub to wake up to, love seeing a notif from you !! another great video, thorough as always !
ur awesome :>
As a Christian who lost her faith for a few years after my grandma passed, it does not change your perception of morality it just makes you question things. Whatever faith you follow we know ehats wrong and whats not. I returned to my faith after I realized God doesn't control anything, whatever happens is not his fault or anyone's. Things just happen, how you deal with it is our problem.
Hopefully, his ex-wife and bandmates are able to find peace
He was just making excuses for his behavior
Yea
Omggg, I didnt really listen to as i lay dying either, but I remember hearing a little about this! Never knew the details til now, yikes
Dude I was wondering why you look so familiar, holy shit you look so similar to Matt Tuck from bullet for my valentine in the waking the demon music video! It’s a childhood fav of mine
This guy's picture in the thumbnail kinda looks like an edgy Ethan Klein lol
Great video man! You did an excellent job putting into words how I am sure many of us felt throughout this, especially those of us that came up with AILD in the early years. Obviously, what he did was absolutely morally horrendous and it can be understood why people wouldn't forgive him. The stress it caused to Nick and the other members of the band is also completely understandable. However, AILD had a major impact on the genre, myself, and many other fans. For this reason, I choose not to associate Tims's actions with the art they created. No matter how much I despise the choices he made, I could never stop listening to AILD. Shadows and Oceans are in my opinion 2 of the greatest albums from that timeframe with The Powerless Rise not too far behind. These records came out during my teenage formative years and helped shape my music taste forever just as so many other bands did on those late-night Headbangers Ball episodes. So, to sum it up...Tim absolutely fucked up and made a big piece of shit move but the art he helped create was pure gold!
It's weird to watch this all again after all the band members left again lol, especially cus a new album is coming out soon so it's definitely gonna be interesting to see how it's all layed out.
I honestly am just curious of what went down that made every new member leave. As the way Phil worded his statement ("After witnessing some concerning patterns of behavior, I've realized that I can no longer, in good conscience, enable further actions that could negatively affect anyone working within this space." on his instagram i think?) makes me wonder and kinda fear for the people around Tim. Especially because Phil only thanks the newer ex-members in his statement.
A year late to comment to this but this is still a really well made video.
Which sucks that he had to do this instead of being a man and taking care of your shit. His music was hitting all time highs before he got arrested. But play stupid games win stupid prizes
Looks like the missus plays games with a father's right to see his son....what prizes did she get? His earnings.
I remember seeing them with demon hunter at like the "big" local venue like in 2008 or 2009. I've been to like 40 shows in total there and it was one of maybe two or three times I've seen the entire floor as a pit
I remember when the report came out I was like holy shit no way
Also I do remember some of the lefty youtubers I watch covered it as well :o
Tim's situation can be summed up in just one sentence - Steroids + Rage = RoidRage.
You’re on a roll with these videos, man. keep it up I can’t wait for the next one 🤘
his svtvnic side project has to been bonkers if this is what he was thinking about its entire recording time
Banger video Nate, it’s Hunter btw had to revamp the profile lmao
I was a fan of as i lay dying, I was just 16, with an ocean between us. After tim's arrest I stopped listening to them after that. I decided to buy their record shaped by fire in 2019, and I even saw them in 2022 with whitechapel, shadow of intent, and brand of sacrifice. It's real intresting that they all left after saying they would come back and make another record with espcially phill was still in the band not leaving.
I saw them that same year, hell of a show, all bands did amazing, admittedly though, I thought Tim was lacking with the vocals, but over all enjoyable show and line up.
I met Tim Lambesis about a month before the hitman incident. Was completely floored when the news broke out
Your channel has quickly became one of my favs. Love the videos homie!
Never knew Tim and I share the same birthday. Oh boy.
Watching Nick was absolutely heart shattering
The most disgusting thing is to see all the people that have defended and rationalized his actions. Comments like “He didnt go through with it” or “He did his time” are so aggravating because of their falsehoods. I was a huge fan, Tim was a hero to me growing up. But when this all happened I was done. I still play old stuff but I refuse to listen to anything new and I will never support them again. The fact the other members ever went back is disappointing.
If you stream that old music it still supports the band
People make mistakes know one is perfect i know i have made a lot of them to.
I remember hearing this and couldn’t believe it. I was blown away.
That's a dope mustache bro!
It’s quite pathetic actually lmaoooo I’m just too lazy to shave
@@FXKNate I like it. It reminds me of Cliff Burton’s.
I was never super into them and never heard this story before. So this was a super interesting story.
Well done on this video, Nate. I was extremely engaged throughout the whole thing. Can't wait for the next.
Binge watched all your videos and thought I found a hidden gem only to realize you posted this an hour ago 😅😂
I have some experience with these guys on multiple occasions. I was shocked when I heard this years ago.
My most memorable time I had with them was in Louisville, KY. I dont remember who they were playing with, but they remembered me from a past show, and we had some mutual friends. I was able to keep my purse behind the merch table while I danced. And then after the show we all had pizza. It was good times. Never would have thought.
Correct me if I’m wrong but I believe jordan sued the members of the band for a chunk of money as like a payout for his portion. If he was suing them he probably couldn’t talk to them. Usually you’re told to stay away from people you’re in legal battles with
Interesting story. Yeah metal has a bad wrap!!! I remember my cousin lecturing my sister about her choice in music. She was 16. Great job guy!!✌🏻
My cousin was a very strong black belt in martial arts (I believe he had a 4th or 5th degree black belt), and could do the splits against a wall. He was into martial arts for many, many, many years, but he began to lift weights to help build muscle and strength; he wanted to become the next Bruce Lee, and he was on his way in achieving that goal.
That all changed when his “trainer” introduced him to steroids. Sure, he bulked up, but he really changed for the worse. He became very, very aggressive towards his family - especially his father. He did lose his hair, and he stopped doing martial arts.
I haven’t heard anything about him since his father passed away.
u quickly became my favorite youtuber since the first few videos. ty for making these!! i tune in for every vid 🕸️🖤
Played a show with AILD last year in Ireland. Setting my drums up Tim walked past and was all like ‘how’s it going dude’. I was shook, but dude seemed alright. Built like a brick shithouse too 😂
Loved this vid! Your vids are great and i enjoy them even though I'm in my early 30s and therefore old 😂
never knew tim was in point of recognition
Love me some Point. 90s Christian hardcore fucking went hard.
This is so fucking wild. I feel like losing someone's faith is worse than never having any. And as for the people who forgave him? I feel like thinking about how youd act if it was your friend/family doesnt match how youd actually act
I saw As I Lay Dying in 2012 before this news broke and it was very apparent he was roided up. I wasn’t surprised to hear about it later on.
Amazing video! I always look forward to your uploads.
Great video again! Was thinking for your warped minds series, will you be covering Moose Blood?
Damn dude, me and the boys lost our minds when they posted the first clip of My Own Grave after he was released. Then when the single dropped, I called my homie at 2 in the morning to show him the new AILD. We played it on repeat for at least an hour lol. Regardless of the things that transpired, AILD was a huge part of growing up🔥