2024 Yamaha MT-09: Have They Tamed The Beast?
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#yamaha #mt09
At first I hated the headlights, then someone said it looks like Iron Man, and now I can't unsee that and all of a sudden I love it.
headlights are gorgeous imo
The MT-09 is just the best package on the market right now! Best bang for buck!
My opinion, this MT09 looks way better than thr last gen. I love the little dragon head on it now. Do I think there's better looking bikes? Yeah.
Agreed! I think it is the best looking gen. This and 1st gen with the larger, more traditional headlight. Didn't look the Power Ranger eyes 2nd gen, or the Transformer Cyclops 3rd gen. But this subtle sci Mech/Iron Man head looks great! The lines flow into the tank very well.
It's 100% the worst design. The MT-09 always had a supermoto-ish look that was iconic especially with the flat almost dirt bike seat. Now it literally just looks like every other naked like a generic cb300r or z650.... this design is awful and the 3rd/2nd gens will always be the greatest. Looks like yamaha decided to go for mass appeal and made it look like one of those 125cc scooters from thailand
@@DB-sd3cw I think the fact that you said "mass appeal" proves right there that it isn't the worst design. It just isn't your preferred design.
@cr0p_dustin by mass appeal it means that they're hoping to draw in the new rider/kid biker crowd that doesn't really know any better. Perhaps I should have picked a different term but it doesn't at all mean it's the best design, just the one that appeals to people who don't know much or have a really low IQ, probably like yourself
@cr0p_dustin nah mass appeal just means the most generic and less polarizing design hence why it now looks like a 125cc scooter from china
I have a 2022 model and I can tell you one thing about the MT09. If you ever ride one long enough to really get to know it, you won’t be disappointed. The headlight has grown on me after adding a little windscreen it looks like the Alien.❤
Yes I love that 3rd gen Xenomorph alien looking windshield!
Headlight looks like Iron Man's jock strap. No bueno 💀
Entire bike looks great - including the headlights
I'm beginning to think I'm blind because this is the first headlight that doesn't make me want to gag 😂. Still not a good looking bike but it finally doesn't look like something a blind and drunk kid carved on a cave wall.
I don’t set around wondering how my bike looks! I think about how it performs and how well it holds up to my needs plus reliability when I find myself 1,500 miles from home. The MT09 has proven itself freeway flying, the Tail of the Dragon, on track days and as a commuter around town. Yamaha got her done!!!!
@@walterjohnson2031 while I definitely agree that looks shouldn't be the end all deciding factor when you purchase a bike I think - deep down - everyone buys a motorcycle with at least an eye towards how appealing the bike is on a purely superficial level. I don't think there's any shame in that either.
@@iansmith237 Absolutely nothing wrong with buying anything because it appeals to you. If you are lucky and find the look you desire and it also fulfills all your other requirements for performance etc good for you.
The reason looks entered my conversation is many people express their opinion on how bad looking the MT09 is. I feel that the MT09 3rd generation in Raven flat black is a very attractive design. Most all the other bikes out there require you to read the label to know what brand it is. The MT09 has it’s own look and anything else in the class best be ware of it’s performance. Butt ugly is in the eye of the beholder as is beautiful.
The TFL young blood are my favorite, keep it up!
i love that it allows to keep the quick shifter up but turn it off down, i'm not going to pretend that i can downshift better than the quick shifter but grabbing my own downshifts is something i find very satisfying, also i wonder if they're going to sell a bracket for the rear brake reservoir since it seems to be mounted on the rear footpeg.
3rd gen did that as well.
Evotech Performance in the UK market a rear foot peg delete kit and integrated reservoir bracket 👌
I just got mine, I traded my 2023 mt07 in on the 2024 mt09. Expecting more power and torque. Unfortunately 2nd gear has no power below 6000 rpm which is my favourite gear to wheelie from. It actually feels like the clutch is slipping…The ecu flash is a lunchbox letdown. Seeing forums on this problem, apparently emission related. It is only felt in 2nd gear oddly enough. Shifting to 3rd the power comes alive again. I guess I have to find a shop to flash this brand new bike to make it consistent in every gear. Yamaha needs to fix this issue.
Try Vcyclenut for flash. 👍
For those in CA the ride is Saragtoga HWY 9 towards Castle Rock State Park, thats where they all all stopped at the flashing stop sign @236 & 9, 236 is the one lane road. Was closed 2 yrs ago when I moved from Sunnyvale to TN and had sell my 21 MT09SP gen 3, love the wheelie control. Now buying the MT09. Then they went back on hwy 9 to Santa Cruz.
Welding Helmet light! Better! 2023 XSR here.. I think the '24 Mt09 inherited the XSR Brembo master cylinder, and cruise control, added a larger 5" screen, but maintained the shorter MT09 swing arm. New Transmission? Hmm.. I must say my '23 quick shifter is near perfect.. added a flash, dominator exhaust and -1, +2 sprockets. I got to say you always need to check whatever suspension adjustments you have. My rear spring was way too tight for starters. Upgraded front pads to EBC HH. No passengers on this bike.. that's silly.
I wanted the xsr but I can't get down with that longer wheelbase, sucks cause it's pretty..
i saw it from close before 2 hours and it was great man !!
not big deal the front light ..
cheers from Greece !!
Just picked mine up yesterday 🎉
congrats man
How much was the cost altogether after fees? if you don't mind me asking
How’s it going with the new bike
That was a sexy bike. Cant wait to get matte black mt09 v4 on hand
Let's talk about how much Alex's review production quality has increased over the years.
This was the best 2024 mt09 video I’ve seen!
Iron Man headlight and odd-colored wheels? What market are they selling too?!?
You say to change mode you have to be off throttle but that you wish they had put the button lower so you did not have to take your hand off the throttle... UMmm? Did it occur to you that they put it there so you had to take your hand off throttle since you need to be off throttle to change modes.
It seems that the foot pegs are adjustable. If i get my hand on that, i will put handle bar risers and i adjust the footpegs to lower position
Great video, well done Alex!
Not bad i still prefer my 3rd gen not enough in it to update
I have gen 3 and prefer look of this new model including the headlight design and the way it flows in line with the fual tank.
These bikes look absolutely sick.
That road is so cool
I like this bike, but that tachometer is just awful. They need to have a mode where it looks like an analog needle. The headlight is just outright ugly. I do love that they finally added cruise as standard along with a quick shifter.
curious how this compares to your XSR900?
Gen 2 still the best design, because of that I still buy it even it is a used bike.
The headlight reminds me of a turtle head and therefore reminds me of TMNT.
They should really take teal/turquoise color scheme and slap it on the GT+
Unfortunately 2nd gear is worthless below 7 grand. For some reason they massively hinder throttle application in that gear.
in fact they have tamed it but you have to ride both gen back to back to feel it
Best headlight on any yamaha period dont @ me
Why hasn't Yamaha given the MT-09 a 17L/4.5gal tank? It's been the same fuel capacity of the MT-07 since 2014. I could see doing touring on this steed and not looking for a fuel station after 120 miles would be nice.
Back in the day I could do 180 miles before the low-fuel light came on... on an SV650S, which held 3L more fuel than this much more powerful bike.
For the first time Yamaha releases a TFT that beats the functionality of the old LCDs. I look forwards to this moving along the product line.
Did you notice a lack of power specifically in 2nd gear? Been hearing complaints about that from a lot of buyers. I think it's an EPA-mandated restriction, not a Yamaha thing but lots of people are annoyed by it
I notice it, too. When I’m going up the gears from a stop, second feels really weak, then third hits like a truck. It caught me off guard the first few times.
@@KjKase they chopped power in first and second gear to protect the inexperienced and foolish people. MT09s are notorious power wheelie masters in the first 3 gears. My generation 3 model with quick shifter with nothing but throttle will pick up the front wheel and carry it all the way from 1st through 2/3 of 3rd gear. “Yes”, your right hand can write checks on a MT09 your ass can’t cash.
Stock exhaust with a performance flash removes all the peaks and valleys in power delivery. Adds roughly 6 horsepower at the rear wheel. Fuel economy actually got better unless you get your boy racer alter ego out.
You cant beat two round headlights up front.
I agree on the headlights that’s why I still have my 2014. But this one, to me is the best one which is why I’m considering getting one.
I had the 2022 MT10sp loved the bike have just bought the XSR 900 witch is the same frame and engine as all 900cc the power to wait ratio is not much different the bike is about 20kg lighter and the engine is smother lots of power loving the bike as much if not more than the MT10 great bike
I ❤ highway 9
I've been riding my 2016 MT-07 for almost 10 years now and I'm waiting for the next anniversary edition yellow scheme to drop, but I'm having trouble deciding between the XSR-900 and the MT-09. Are there any substantial differences between the two besides the looks and the dashboard? Is the 09 dash so much better you'd consider changing from the XSR over to MT?
At the moment I'm siding with the XSR quite heavily just for the looks but the smaller dash is a shame, albeit you have the larger dash with the GP model but that one doesn't really excite me as much as the default variant
headlight aint good for me
Awesome vid thanks! Would be helpful to know your physical specs (ht, wt, inseam) and how comfortable you found it - and other bikes - for your frame :)
I am 6 ft. Even with a 31 inch inseam and with all riding gear on to include helmet I tip the scales at 192 pounds.
The MT09 fits like a glove and is comfortable even on a couple 600 mile days. Suspension works well with me and 35 pounds of gear on a trip up the Tail of Dragon and Blue Ridge Mountains. I have the stock seat and find it adequate for my needs so far.
Power is very satisfying two up and a real hoot solo. Depending on how wild your are feeling you can plan on 45 to 55 mpg. It runs stronger than my 1000 Kawasaki from 1979 and hangs with a ZR1 tell you hit a bit over 90 mph. If you tuck in tight you will top out of 144 mph in 5th gear.
No problems or defects found. Only thing is rear tires don’t last very long but the S22 Brigstones work great.
@@walterjohnson2031 incredibly detailed - thank you!
Which would you prefer 24 Mt09 or 24 Xsr900 for yearly rides in the city?
Either one is awesome 👍
Will be looking for new motorcycle next winter/spring. How did this 2024 MT-09 compare to your XSR900? Riding wise, looks wise I know the XSR wins, haha. Looking for a daily commuter/weekend fun bike. Maybe they'll update the XSR for 2025, or bring the GP over. One of these is definitely my next bike. Thanks for the great content!
I've got a '22 XSR900; its insurance is really low compared to the MT09 despite being very similar hardware wise.
@langhamp8912 Never thought about that! I thought they would be the same, or close. I'll have to get some quotes. Thank you!
@@papi96 I was actually looking at the GSX8S first and the MT09 second but the XSR900's insurance was nearly half of those bikes. Progressive Insurance had enough data on the XSR900 to rate it as "very low" risk. In comparison, the GSX8S and MT09 were nearly double for the same insurance.
On the other hand, most owners of the XSR900 were in their twenties in the 1990's ie it's a retro bike bought by older riders.
@langhamp8912 that makes a lot of sense! Me being in my late 40s also, I do like the looks of the XSR more haha. Damn insurance. I was actually thinking about the GSX-8S and GSX-8R too. Going to try them out in the next few weeks. I rode the '24 MT-09 at a Yamaha demo day and it was amazing! There's another demo day in my area on 6/8, so I'll go and ride the XSR900 and the '24 MT-09 back to back. I imagine they're very similar. Thanks for all the info!
@@papi96 Do you remember the original Honda CBR900RR? The one that had such a high crash rate that State Farm and other insurance companies refused to insure them? THAT one? The XSR900 makes more HP and weighs 20 pounds less, and would absolutely slaughter the CBR around a racetrack with its electronics.
However, I would rate the GSX8S is a better bike for, maybe, everything except faster trackdays. There is NOTHING like the GSX8's engine; you can probably stand a quarter on the gas tank and rev the motor....the engine is that smooth. On paper the GSX8 is nothing special but I seriously think it's one of the best bikes at any price point.
Both bikes are so quiet you can hear the valve train (I own the XSR900 and demoed a GSX8S), and both are so smooth that it can be hard to tell what RPM you are by feel (I've never had this problem before). I do find it curious I get tailgated a lot when I use cruise control on my XSR900.
Does she power wheelie as much? Is second gear as neutered as other reviewers say?
Mine power wheelies in 3rd at 70mph..
The headlight could’ve been designed like the r1, leave the led eyes but put 2 headlights under the face like the r1s
Where in Northern California?
Yes, the headlight is ugly. My son just bought a MT10 and the light is ugly too. His friend has a n MT 09 2023 , ugly light. I am buying a naked and I want a MT 09 but I have to buy something else because of the ugly light. I’m going for a Duke.
Hoooold up.. You don't want an ugly headlight so you're buying a Duke?! Those have the ugliest headlights out there, imo
Do a headlight swap. It isn't impossible if you take it slow and figure out the parts you need
@@cr0p_dustin Yes,I agree. I actually want a Z900rs but want cruise and quick shifter.
@@pamdemic7848 in on a Z400 right now and would love a Z900, but they just don't give you all the goodies the MT09 does. If the z900 got a serious update, then I'd consider it again
get the xsr??
im from cupertino, what road is that?
Third gen has a better tank, seat and is lighter...
But that face though
I also personally think the 3rd generation was the accumulation of all the best specs for the MT09. Weight, horsepower and overall individuality peaked with this model. But any model of the MT09 is having your cake and eating it to.
could a beginner ride one in rain mode?
Nice video
Give us some RS660 content!
Just when you think they can't make this awesome bike any uglier. You almost gotta respect it. Not an easy task.
Where are you?
Tape that speedo of you'll be getting a call from someone you don't necessarily want to talk to.
How reliable will all that tech be when the bike is 10 years old or 15 and beyond? Not a fan of all the tech. The tech makes it seem like a throw away product
🔥ALEX🔥
im curious, is it euro5 or already euro5 plus?
Plus
@@Bugside does it already have the OBD plus disgnose in it?
@@Skater17long ooof, no idea about that, didn't even know there was a new obd standard
@@Bugside aight , I ordered one but havent found any info about the euro 5 or euro 5 plus. Thats why I was curious. Lets hope they get a good amount of sound out of it with aftermarket exhaust. I drove one with Akrapovic and it was not that bad at all, could be a lil bit louder for my taste.
Hi Alex 👋👋👋🙂
I'd go with the blue but I'd want white wheels, that grey is too boring for me, had Bridgestones on a Gixer 750 and didn't like them Dunlops are my choice, once I wear these Pirelli's down I'll be switching to Dunlops on my bike. I see people wearing trainers, hope you have tape on your left foot bike toe
If you don't like the tech just turn it off...what are people complaining about otherwise? Looks like it is easily disabled.
They finally got rid of that ugly banana seat, the new styling so good looking
Why did you keep saying wheelies when your brain is saying endo's?
You got 10mpg less than was stated.
One of the if not the most significant complaints about this bike is the "ON OFF Throttle" and the power delivery and that it was really hard to manage compared to its competition. You didn't mention anything about it. So I assume its still crap.
Where have you been for the past 3 years?
That issue was sorted on the gen 3 in 2020. Get with it
Sorry there's only one beast and it's the Duke
I had two original fz09’s, and they never got better than that. Simple was fine, and they were easily modified. But, to each their own. I’m old…👍🤪🏳️🌈
sorry but i dont want a tft screen on my face while riding a naked bike.
On your face????
They messed up the MT09 big time, the 2017-2020 MT09 was the best generation hands down, aggressive headlights and tail light, better gas tank shape. unfortunately a lot of manufacturers are messing big time their new models both in the motorcycle and automotive industry
Messed up big time. But you give only cosmetic critisme… wich is mostly subjective. Anyway. The bike improved over the years mechanicaly Most people would agree
I actually perferwd the psyclops eye because it was a glass LED projector. People complained and they changed it fast which bummed me out
A lot of people, myself included think this is easily the best looking generation so far. The 1st gen with more traditional headlight and this 4th gen look the best. This gen goes for more of an Iron Man look and the lines work better with the tank vs the transformer cyclops of the 3rd gen.
a sign that they definitely did not mess up is how polarizing it is. people either love it or hate it. i love it
Dude what… thats THE ugliest bike on the market😂 i would love to see the kind of women you find attractive🤡 yikes….
All these rider aids on all the new bikes are a laugh. Call me old school but I don't need that shit. And besides will it all work in 10 years' time I think not.
Standard. Not naked.
Cant wait to see this in a sport bike frame... Yamaha R9 here we come!
Do you have to pay for the navigation? Great video!
it's free from Garmin
@@Bullpit2 that's great although a bit surprising since I believe you have to pay on the 24 Tracer 9 GT plus.
@@bethmohit5822 Yeah different app. Motorize (Tracer) is paid only, Streetcross (MT09) is free forever.